❓ Ms. Quirk questions the Minister for Road Safety about the decrease in Type A and B school crossings between 2008 and 2010. The Minister's response is initially evasive, leading to a heated exchange and a somewhat unclear explanation.
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School CrossINGS — TYPE A AND TYPE B STATUS
I note the minister’s response to Legislative Assembly question on notice 5995 on 16 August regarding children’s crossings, and I ask the following questions about the minister’s performance on this issue. (1) Why has the number of type A crossings dropped by 67 from 487 in 2008 to 420 in 2010? (2) Why has the number of type B crossings dropped from 24 in 2008 to 18 in 2010? Mr R.F. JOHNSON
I note the minister’s response to Legislative Assembly question on notice 5995 on 16 August regarding children’s crossings, and I ask the following questions about the minister’s performance on this issue. (1) Why has the number of type A crossings dropped by 67 from 487 in 2008 to 420 in 2010? (2) Why has the number of type B crossings dropped from 24 in 2008 to 18 in 2010? Mr R.F. JOHNSON
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(1)–(2) I thank the member for the question. I cannot give her a definitive answer because I do not have that information with me. Ms M.M. Quirk : You signed a question on notice. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I know I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : And you cannot remember? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I can remember quite clearly. Ms M.M. Quirk : All right; tell us. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Okay. I think the problem is that the opposition is in a state of denial at the moment because I actually did something to ensure children’s safety came first in all those schools where type A crossings and some type B crossings were going to be — Ms M.M. Quirk : What did you do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are 67 fewer crossings. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sixty-seven. The member is asking me what exactly in relation to that question? What is the member saying? The member is saying that there was a reduction in those crossings during those years. As the member well knows, it is not the responsibility of the minister normally to decide whether specific school crossings should be taken away from specific schools. That is done by — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You signed off on the revised criteria, didn’t you? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
(1) Why has the number of type A crossings dropped by 67 from 487 in 2008 to 420 in 2010? (2) Why has the number of type B crossings dropped from 24 in 2008 to 18 in 2010? Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(2) I thank the member for the question. I cannot give her a definitive answer because I do not have that information with me. Ms M.M. Quirk : You signed a question on notice. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I know I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : And you cannot remember? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I can remember quite clearly. Ms M.M. Quirk : All right; tell us. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Okay. I think the problem is that the opposition is in a state of denial at the moment because I actually did something to ensure children’s safety came first in all those schools where type A crossings and some type B crossings were going to be — Ms M.M. Quirk : What did you do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are 67 fewer crossings. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sixty-seven. The member is asking me what exactly in relation to that question? What is the member saying? The member is saying that there was a reduction in those crossings during those years. As the member well knows, it is not the responsibility of the minister normally to decide whether specific school crossings should be taken away from specific schools. That is done by — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You signed off on the revised criteria, didn’t you? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
(2) Why has the number of type B crossings dropped from 24 in 2008 to 18 in 2010? Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(2) I thank the member for the question. I cannot give her a definitive answer because I do not have that information with me. Ms M.M. Quirk : You signed a question on notice. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I know I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : And you cannot remember? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I can remember quite clearly. Ms M.M. Quirk : All right; tell us. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Okay. I think the problem is that the opposition is in a state of denial at the moment because I actually did something to ensure children’s safety came first in all those schools where type A crossings and some type B crossings were going to be — Ms M.M. Quirk : What did you do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are 67 fewer crossings. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sixty-seven. The member is asking me what exactly in relation to that question? What is the member saying? The member is saying that there was a reduction in those crossings during those years. As the member well knows, it is not the responsibility of the minister normally to decide whether specific school crossings should be taken away from specific schools. That is done by — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You signed off on the revised criteria, didn’t you? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(2) I thank the member for the question. I cannot give her a definitive answer because I do not have that information with me. Ms M.M. Quirk : You signed a question on notice. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I know I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : And you cannot remember? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I can remember quite clearly. Ms M.M. Quirk : All right; tell us. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Okay. I think the problem is that the opposition is in a state of denial at the moment because I actually did something to ensure children’s safety came first in all those schools where type A crossings and some type B crossings were going to be — Ms M.M. Quirk : What did you do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are 67 fewer crossings. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sixty-seven. The member is asking me what exactly in relation to that question? What is the member saying? The member is saying that there was a reduction in those crossings during those years. As the member well knows, it is not the responsibility of the minister normally to decide whether specific school crossings should be taken away from specific schools. That is done by — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You signed off on the revised criteria, didn’t you? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
(1)–(2) I thank the member for the question. I cannot give her a definitive answer because I do not have that information with me. Ms M.M. Quirk : You signed a question on notice. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I know I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : And you cannot remember? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I can remember quite clearly. Ms M.M. Quirk : All right; tell us. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Okay. I think the problem is that the opposition is in a state of denial at the moment because I actually did something to ensure children’s safety came first in all those schools where type A crossings and some type B crossings were going to be — Ms M.M. Quirk : What did you do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are 67 fewer crossings. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sixty-seven. The member is asking me what exactly in relation to that question? What is the member saying? The member is saying that there was a reduction in those crossings during those years. As the member well knows, it is not the responsibility of the minister normally to decide whether specific school crossings should be taken away from specific schools. That is done by — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You signed off on the revised criteria, didn’t you? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Ms M.M. Quirk : You signed a question on notice. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I know I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : And you cannot remember? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I can remember quite clearly. Ms M.M. Quirk : All right; tell us. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Okay. I think the problem is that the opposition is in a state of denial at the moment because I actually did something to ensure children’s safety came first in all those schools where type A crossings and some type B crossings were going to be — Ms M.M. Quirk : What did you do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are 67 fewer crossings. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sixty-seven. The member is asking me what exactly in relation to that question? What is the member saying? The member is saying that there was a reduction in those crossings during those years. As the member well knows, it is not the responsibility of the minister normally to decide whether specific school crossings should be taken away from specific schools. That is done by — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You signed off on the revised criteria, didn’t you? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I know I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : And you cannot remember? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I can remember quite clearly. Ms M.M. Quirk : All right; tell us. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Okay. I think the problem is that the opposition is in a state of denial at the moment because I actually did something to ensure children’s safety came first in all those schools where type A crossings and some type B crossings were going to be — Ms M.M. Quirk : What did you do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are 67 fewer crossings. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sixty-seven. The member is asking me what exactly in relation to that question? What is the member saying? The member is saying that there was a reduction in those crossings during those years. As the member well knows, it is not the responsibility of the minister normally to decide whether specific school crossings should be taken away from specific schools. That is done by — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You signed off on the revised criteria, didn’t you? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Ms M.M. Quirk : And you cannot remember? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I can remember quite clearly. Ms M.M. Quirk : All right; tell us. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Okay. I think the problem is that the opposition is in a state of denial at the moment because I actually did something to ensure children’s safety came first in all those schools where type A crossings and some type B crossings were going to be — Ms M.M. Quirk : What did you do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are 67 fewer crossings. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sixty-seven. The member is asking me what exactly in relation to that question? What is the member saying? The member is saying that there was a reduction in those crossings during those years. As the member well knows, it is not the responsibility of the minister normally to decide whether specific school crossings should be taken away from specific schools. That is done by — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You signed off on the revised criteria, didn’t you? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I can remember quite clearly. Ms M.M. Quirk : All right; tell us. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Okay. I think the problem is that the opposition is in a state of denial at the moment because I actually did something to ensure children’s safety came first in all those schools where type A crossings and some type B crossings were going to be — Ms M.M. Quirk : What did you do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are 67 fewer crossings. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sixty-seven. The member is asking me what exactly in relation to that question? What is the member saying? The member is saying that there was a reduction in those crossings during those years. As the member well knows, it is not the responsibility of the minister normally to decide whether specific school crossings should be taken away from specific schools. That is done by — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You signed off on the revised criteria, didn’t you? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Ms M.M. Quirk : All right; tell us. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Okay. I think the problem is that the opposition is in a state of denial at the moment because I actually did something to ensure children’s safety came first in all those schools where type A crossings and some type B crossings were going to be — Ms M.M. Quirk : What did you do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are 67 fewer crossings. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sixty-seven. The member is asking me what exactly in relation to that question? What is the member saying? The member is saying that there was a reduction in those crossings during those years. As the member well knows, it is not the responsibility of the minister normally to decide whether specific school crossings should be taken away from specific schools. That is done by — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You signed off on the revised criteria, didn’t you? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Okay. I think the problem is that the opposition is in a state of denial at the moment because I actually did something to ensure children’s safety came first in all those schools where type A crossings and some type B crossings were going to be — Ms M.M. Quirk : What did you do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are 67 fewer crossings. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sixty-seven. The member is asking me what exactly in relation to that question? What is the member saying? The member is saying that there was a reduction in those crossings during those years. As the member well knows, it is not the responsibility of the minister normally to decide whether specific school crossings should be taken away from specific schools. That is done by — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You signed off on the revised criteria, didn’t you? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Ms M.M. Quirk : What did you do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are 67 fewer crossings. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sixty-seven. The member is asking me what exactly in relation to that question? What is the member saying? The member is saying that there was a reduction in those crossings during those years. As the member well knows, it is not the responsibility of the minister normally to decide whether specific school crossings should be taken away from specific schools. That is done by — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You signed off on the revised criteria, didn’t you? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are 67 fewer crossings. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sixty-seven. The member is asking me what exactly in relation to that question? What is the member saying? The member is saying that there was a reduction in those crossings during those years. As the member well knows, it is not the responsibility of the minister normally to decide whether specific school crossings should be taken away from specific schools. That is done by — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You signed off on the revised criteria, didn’t you? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
The SPEAKER : Members! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are 67 fewer crossings. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sixty-seven. The member is asking me what exactly in relation to that question? What is the member saying? The member is saying that there was a reduction in those crossings during those years. As the member well knows, it is not the responsibility of the minister normally to decide whether specific school crossings should be taken away from specific schools. That is done by — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You signed off on the revised criteria, didn’t you? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are 67 fewer crossings. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sixty-seven. The member is asking me what exactly in relation to that question? What is the member saying? The member is saying that there was a reduction in those crossings during those years. As the member well knows, it is not the responsibility of the minister normally to decide whether specific school crossings should be taken away from specific schools. That is done by — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You signed off on the revised criteria, didn’t you? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Ms M.M. Quirk : There are 67 fewer crossings. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sixty-seven. The member is asking me what exactly in relation to that question? What is the member saying? The member is saying that there was a reduction in those crossings during those years. As the member well knows, it is not the responsibility of the minister normally to decide whether specific school crossings should be taken away from specific schools. That is done by — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You signed off on the revised criteria, didn’t you? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sixty-seven. The member is asking me what exactly in relation to that question? What is the member saying? The member is saying that there was a reduction in those crossings during those years. As the member well knows, it is not the responsibility of the minister normally to decide whether specific school crossings should be taken away from specific schools. That is done by — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You signed off on the revised criteria, didn’t you? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mrs M.H. Roberts : You signed off on the revised criteria, didn’t you? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
(1) Why has the number of type A crossings dropped by 67 from 487 in 2008 to 420 in 2010? (2) Why has the number of type B crossings dropped from 24 in 2008 to 18 in 2010? Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(2) I thank the member for the question. I cannot give her a definitive answer because I do not have that information with me. Ms M.M. Quirk : You signed a question on notice. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I know I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : And you cannot remember? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I can remember quite clearly. Ms M.M. Quirk : All right; tell us. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Okay. I think the problem is that the opposition is in a state of denial at the moment because I actually did something to ensure children’s safety came first in all those schools where type A crossings and some type B crossings were going to be — Ms M.M. Quirk : What did you do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are 67 fewer crossings. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sixty-seven. The member is asking me what exactly in relation to that question? What is the member saying? The member is saying that there was a reduction in those crossings during those years. As the member well knows, it is not the responsibility of the minister normally to decide whether specific school crossings should be taken away from specific schools. That is done by — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You signed off on the revised criteria, didn’t you? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
(2) Why has the number of type B crossings dropped from 24 in 2008 to 18 in 2010? Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(2) I thank the member for the question. I cannot give her a definitive answer because I do not have that information with me. Ms M.M. Quirk : You signed a question on notice. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I know I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : And you cannot remember? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I can remember quite clearly. Ms M.M. Quirk : All right; tell us. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Okay. I think the problem is that the opposition is in a state of denial at the moment because I actually did something to ensure children’s safety came first in all those schools where type A crossings and some type B crossings were going to be — Ms M.M. Quirk : What did you do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are 67 fewer crossings. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sixty-seven. The member is asking me what exactly in relation to that question? What is the member saying? The member is saying that there was a reduction in those crossings during those years. As the member well knows, it is not the responsibility of the minister normally to decide whether specific school crossings should be taken away from specific schools. That is done by — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You signed off on the revised criteria, didn’t you? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(2) I thank the member for the question. I cannot give her a definitive answer because I do not have that information with me. Ms M.M. Quirk : You signed a question on notice. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I know I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : And you cannot remember? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I can remember quite clearly. Ms M.M. Quirk : All right; tell us. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Okay. I think the problem is that the opposition is in a state of denial at the moment because I actually did something to ensure children’s safety came first in all those schools where type A crossings and some type B crossings were going to be — Ms M.M. Quirk : What did you do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are 67 fewer crossings. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sixty-seven. The member is asking me what exactly in relation to that question? What is the member saying? The member is saying that there was a reduction in those crossings during those years. As the member well knows, it is not the responsibility of the minister normally to decide whether specific school crossings should be taken away from specific schools. That is done by — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You signed off on the revised criteria, didn’t you? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
(1)–(2) I thank the member for the question. I cannot give her a definitive answer because I do not have that information with me. Ms M.M. Quirk : You signed a question on notice. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I know I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : And you cannot remember? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I can remember quite clearly. Ms M.M. Quirk : All right; tell us. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Okay. I think the problem is that the opposition is in a state of denial at the moment because I actually did something to ensure children’s safety came first in all those schools where type A crossings and some type B crossings were going to be — Ms M.M. Quirk : What did you do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are 67 fewer crossings. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sixty-seven. The member is asking me what exactly in relation to that question? What is the member saying? The member is saying that there was a reduction in those crossings during those years. As the member well knows, it is not the responsibility of the minister normally to decide whether specific school crossings should be taken away from specific schools. That is done by — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You signed off on the revised criteria, didn’t you? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Ms M.M. Quirk : You signed a question on notice. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I know I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : And you cannot remember? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I can remember quite clearly. Ms M.M. Quirk : All right; tell us. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Okay. I think the problem is that the opposition is in a state of denial at the moment because I actually did something to ensure children’s safety came first in all those schools where type A crossings and some type B crossings were going to be — Ms M.M. Quirk : What did you do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are 67 fewer crossings. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sixty-seven. The member is asking me what exactly in relation to that question? What is the member saying? The member is saying that there was a reduction in those crossings during those years. As the member well knows, it is not the responsibility of the minister normally to decide whether specific school crossings should be taken away from specific schools. That is done by — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You signed off on the revised criteria, didn’t you? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I know I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : And you cannot remember? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I can remember quite clearly. Ms M.M. Quirk : All right; tell us. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Okay. I think the problem is that the opposition is in a state of denial at the moment because I actually did something to ensure children’s safety came first in all those schools where type A crossings and some type B crossings were going to be — Ms M.M. Quirk : What did you do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are 67 fewer crossings. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sixty-seven. The member is asking me what exactly in relation to that question? What is the member saying? The member is saying that there was a reduction in those crossings during those years. As the member well knows, it is not the responsibility of the minister normally to decide whether specific school crossings should be taken away from specific schools. That is done by — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You signed off on the revised criteria, didn’t you? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Ms M.M. Quirk : And you cannot remember? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I can remember quite clearly. Ms M.M. Quirk : All right; tell us. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Okay. I think the problem is that the opposition is in a state of denial at the moment because I actually did something to ensure children’s safety came first in all those schools where type A crossings and some type B crossings were going to be — Ms M.M. Quirk : What did you do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are 67 fewer crossings. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sixty-seven. The member is asking me what exactly in relation to that question? What is the member saying? The member is saying that there was a reduction in those crossings during those years. As the member well knows, it is not the responsibility of the minister normally to decide whether specific school crossings should be taken away from specific schools. That is done by — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You signed off on the revised criteria, didn’t you? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I can remember quite clearly. Ms M.M. Quirk : All right; tell us. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Okay. I think the problem is that the opposition is in a state of denial at the moment because I actually did something to ensure children’s safety came first in all those schools where type A crossings and some type B crossings were going to be — Ms M.M. Quirk : What did you do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are 67 fewer crossings. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sixty-seven. The member is asking me what exactly in relation to that question? What is the member saying? The member is saying that there was a reduction in those crossings during those years. As the member well knows, it is not the responsibility of the minister normally to decide whether specific school crossings should be taken away from specific schools. That is done by — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You signed off on the revised criteria, didn’t you? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Ms M.M. Quirk : All right; tell us. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Okay. I think the problem is that the opposition is in a state of denial at the moment because I actually did something to ensure children’s safety came first in all those schools where type A crossings and some type B crossings were going to be — Ms M.M. Quirk : What did you do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are 67 fewer crossings. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sixty-seven. The member is asking me what exactly in relation to that question? What is the member saying? The member is saying that there was a reduction in those crossings during those years. As the member well knows, it is not the responsibility of the minister normally to decide whether specific school crossings should be taken away from specific schools. That is done by — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You signed off on the revised criteria, didn’t you? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Okay. I think the problem is that the opposition is in a state of denial at the moment because I actually did something to ensure children’s safety came first in all those schools where type A crossings and some type B crossings were going to be — Ms M.M. Quirk : What did you do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are 67 fewer crossings. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sixty-seven. The member is asking me what exactly in relation to that question? What is the member saying? The member is saying that there was a reduction in those crossings during those years. As the member well knows, it is not the responsibility of the minister normally to decide whether specific school crossings should be taken away from specific schools. That is done by — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You signed off on the revised criteria, didn’t you? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Ms M.M. Quirk : What did you do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are 67 fewer crossings. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sixty-seven. The member is asking me what exactly in relation to that question? What is the member saying? The member is saying that there was a reduction in those crossings during those years. As the member well knows, it is not the responsibility of the minister normally to decide whether specific school crossings should be taken away from specific schools. That is done by — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You signed off on the revised criteria, didn’t you? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are 67 fewer crossings. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sixty-seven. The member is asking me what exactly in relation to that question? What is the member saying? The member is saying that there was a reduction in those crossings during those years. As the member well knows, it is not the responsibility of the minister normally to decide whether specific school crossings should be taken away from specific schools. That is done by — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You signed off on the revised criteria, didn’t you? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
The SPEAKER : Members! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are 67 fewer crossings. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sixty-seven. The member is asking me what exactly in relation to that question? What is the member saying? The member is saying that there was a reduction in those crossings during those years. As the member well knows, it is not the responsibility of the minister normally to decide whether specific school crossings should be taken away from specific schools. That is done by — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You signed off on the revised criteria, didn’t you? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are 67 fewer crossings. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sixty-seven. The member is asking me what exactly in relation to that question? What is the member saying? The member is saying that there was a reduction in those crossings during those years. As the member well knows, it is not the responsibility of the minister normally to decide whether specific school crossings should be taken away from specific schools. That is done by — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You signed off on the revised criteria, didn’t you? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Ms M.M. Quirk : There are 67 fewer crossings. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sixty-seven. The member is asking me what exactly in relation to that question? What is the member saying? The member is saying that there was a reduction in those crossings during those years. As the member well knows, it is not the responsibility of the minister normally to decide whether specific school crossings should be taken away from specific schools. That is done by — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You signed off on the revised criteria, didn’t you? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sixty-seven. The member is asking me what exactly in relation to that question? What is the member saying? The member is saying that there was a reduction in those crossings during those years. As the member well knows, it is not the responsibility of the minister normally to decide whether specific school crossings should be taken away from specific schools. That is done by — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You signed off on the revised criteria, didn’t you? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mrs M.H. Roberts : You signed off on the revised criteria, didn’t you? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The revised criteria were actually enhanced criteria that gave schools a better opportunity to retain their type A crossings. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mrs M.H. Roberts : Sixty-seven lost them, and then you have a list of another 20. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because that is evolution. Does the member for Midland know how many crossings were lost under her regime? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not 67—I guarantee that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Midland lost dozens and dozens when she was minister; dozens and dozens were lost. The reason is that very often the school population goes down, as the member would know, and the conflict ratio with the number of vehicles — Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Several members interjected. Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Ms M.M. Quirk : I can’t hear him. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because opposition members keep interjecting. The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
The SPEAKER : We had some technical problems in this place yesterday which resulted in people not being able to hear particular members either asking questions or giving answers. I do not want that situation to re-emerge at this moment. I understand what the member for Girrawheen is saying, and I ask other members in this place to enable the Minister for Road Safety to answer this question. He does not need any assistance from other members to my right or to my left. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Over the years, obviously a lot of the type A crossings do get lost to schools because they fail to then meet the criteria that was set — Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr E.S. Ripper : That wouldn’t explain a net drop though, would it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Of course it will. If enough schools do not meet the criteria, we will see a net drop; of course we will. We will see them in type A and type B, but quite frankly — Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Ms M.M. Quirk : There are fewer in type B as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because some of the type B crossings do not meet — Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr E.S. Ripper : Aren’t we getting more and more schools? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : We are getting some more schools, but we are also getting some schools that have closed down over the years, we are getting some schools that do not have as many pupils going to them and we are getting areas where schools are not getting the flow of traffic that they used to get. That is all the criteria as to whether or not — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr E.S. Ripper : It is news to the people of Perth that traffic is declining! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from the stupid Leader of the Opposition. Honestly! Members opposite know why it is happening. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Ms M.M. Quirk : No, I don’t. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will sit down and talk to the member for Girrawheen some time and I will explain it to her with pictures; okay?
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