❓ Question regarding the Minister's representation of Kimberley, Pilbara and Gascoyne interests concerning electoral redistribution and community opposition to reduced representation. The Minister's answer is evasive and deflects blame onto the Liberal Party.
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(1) Is it not the role of the minister to represent the interests of the Kimberley, Pilbara and Gascoyne? (2) Have local communities in these regions made representations to the minister expressing strong opposition to the reduction in the number of members who will represent them as proposed by the Gallop Labor Government? (3) If so, has the minister faithfully represented these views to the Cabinet - yes or no? Hon TOM STEPHENS
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(1)-(3) The interesting background to this question is that it was the Liberal Party - The PRESIDENT: Order! The minister will provide an answer rather than interesting background or a ministerial statement. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I remind the Liberal member for the South Metropolitan Region that in the lead-up to the last redistribution, his own colleagues advocated that one seat be stripped from the Mining and Pastoral Region and transferred to the south west. Hon Peter Foss: That is a lie. Hon TOM STEPHENS: That is not a lie. Hon N.F. Moore: That was a proposal from the Electoral Commission in its first run; you know that as well as I do. You argued to put one seat back in the north. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Labor Party successfully argued that the Liberal Party proposal to strip away a seat could not be agreed to under the existing laws. The redistribution proposal that advocated stripping away that seat was not approved. The answer to the honourable member’s question is that under the redistribution that is required under the state Electoral Act in the lead-up to the next state election - even if there were no changes to the electoral laws - the electoral enrolment is such that inevitably the Mining and Pastoral Region would have one of its six seats removed. That is the inevitable consequence of the combined effect of the cleansing of the electoral roll on the part of members opposite. They have participated in stripping down the electoral roll of that region. The Liberal Party regularly engages in electoral roll cleansing. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: The member raised this issue yesterday, and he is incorrect. I ask that he confine his remarks to answering the question. This issue about cleansing the roll has nothing to do with representations on behalf of his region in respect of one vote, one value. The PRESIDENT: The minister will address the question and hopefully bring his answer to a conclusion, as it seems he has already provided some of the answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon TOM STEPHENS: I take great pride and delight in representing the people of the Mining and Pastoral Region, who have not been advantaged by vote weighting or, in the past, by the Liberal Party advocating on their behalf the cleansing of the electoral rolls in the machinery processes in which it has engaged. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: I raised a point of order a moment ago on this question of cleansing the role, which has absolutely nothing to do with the question or the answer. I ask the minister to at least try to answer the question. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. I believe the minister has answered the question.
(2) Have local communities in these regions made representations to the minister expressing strong opposition to the reduction in the number of members who will represent them as proposed by the Gallop Labor Government? (3) If so, has the minister faithfully represented these views to the Cabinet - yes or no? Hon TOM STEPHENS replied: (1)-(3) The interesting background to this question is that it was the Liberal Party - The PRESIDENT: Order! The minister will provide an answer rather than interesting background or a ministerial statement. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I remind the Liberal member for the South Metropolitan Region that in the lead-up to the last redistribution, his own colleagues advocated that one seat be stripped from the Mining and Pastoral Region and transferred to the south west. Hon Peter Foss: That is a lie. Hon TOM STEPHENS: That is not a lie. Hon N.F. Moore: That was a proposal from the Electoral Commission in its first run; you know that as well as I do. You argued to put one seat back in the north. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Labor Party successfully argued that the Liberal Party proposal to strip away a seat could not be agreed to under the existing laws. The redistribution proposal that advocated stripping away that seat was not approved. The answer to the honourable member’s question is that under the redistribution that is required under the state Electoral Act in the lead-up to the next state election - even if there were no changes to the electoral laws - the electoral enrolment is such that inevitably the Mining and Pastoral Region would have one of its six seats removed. That is the inevitable consequence of the combined effect of the cleansing of the electoral roll on the part of members opposite. They have participated in stripping down the electoral roll of that region. The Liberal Party regularly engages in electoral roll cleansing. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: The member raised this issue yesterday, and he is incorrect. I ask that he confine his remarks to answering the question. This issue about cleansing the roll has nothing to do with representations on behalf of his region in respect of one vote, one value. The PRESIDENT: The minister will address the question and hopefully bring his answer to a conclusion, as it seems he has already provided some of the answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon TOM STEPHENS: I take great pride and delight in representing the people of the Mining and Pastoral Region, who have not been advantaged by vote weighting or, in the past, by the Liberal Party advocating on their behalf the cleansing of the electoral rolls in the machinery processes in which it has engaged. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: I raised a point of order a moment ago on this question of cleansing the role, which has absolutely nothing to do with the question or the answer. I ask the minister to at least try to answer the question. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. I believe the minister has answered the question.
(3) If so, has the minister faithfully represented these views to the Cabinet - yes or no? Hon TOM STEPHENS replied: (1)-(3) The interesting background to this question is that it was the Liberal Party - The PRESIDENT: Order! The minister will provide an answer rather than interesting background or a ministerial statement. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I remind the Liberal member for the South Metropolitan Region that in the lead-up to the last redistribution, his own colleagues advocated that one seat be stripped from the Mining and Pastoral Region and transferred to the south west. Hon Peter Foss: That is a lie. Hon TOM STEPHENS: That is not a lie. Hon N.F. Moore: That was a proposal from the Electoral Commission in its first run; you know that as well as I do. You argued to put one seat back in the north. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Labor Party successfully argued that the Liberal Party proposal to strip away a seat could not be agreed to under the existing laws. The redistribution proposal that advocated stripping away that seat was not approved. The answer to the honourable member’s question is that under the redistribution that is required under the state Electoral Act in the lead-up to the next state election - even if there were no changes to the electoral laws - the electoral enrolment is such that inevitably the Mining and Pastoral Region would have one of its six seats removed. That is the inevitable consequence of the combined effect of the cleansing of the electoral roll on the part of members opposite. They have participated in stripping down the electoral roll of that region. The Liberal Party regularly engages in electoral roll cleansing. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: The member raised this issue yesterday, and he is incorrect. I ask that he confine his remarks to answering the question. This issue about cleansing the roll has nothing to do with representations on behalf of his region in respect of one vote, one value. The PRESIDENT: The minister will address the question and hopefully bring his answer to a conclusion, as it seems he has already provided some of the answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon TOM STEPHENS: I take great pride and delight in representing the people of the Mining and Pastoral Region, who have not been advantaged by vote weighting or, in the past, by the Liberal Party advocating on their behalf the cleansing of the electoral rolls in the machinery processes in which it has engaged. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: I raised a point of order a moment ago on this question of cleansing the role, which has absolutely nothing to do with the question or the answer. I ask the minister to at least try to answer the question. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. I believe the minister has answered the question.
Hon TOM STEPHENS replied: (1)-(3) The interesting background to this question is that it was the Liberal Party - The PRESIDENT: Order! The minister will provide an answer rather than interesting background or a ministerial statement. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I remind the Liberal member for the South Metropolitan Region that in the lead-up to the last redistribution, his own colleagues advocated that one seat be stripped from the Mining and Pastoral Region and transferred to the south west. Hon Peter Foss: That is a lie. Hon TOM STEPHENS: That is not a lie. Hon N.F. Moore: That was a proposal from the Electoral Commission in its first run; you know that as well as I do. You argued to put one seat back in the north. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Labor Party successfully argued that the Liberal Party proposal to strip away a seat could not be agreed to under the existing laws. The redistribution proposal that advocated stripping away that seat was not approved. The answer to the honourable member’s question is that under the redistribution that is required under the state Electoral Act in the lead-up to the next state election - even if there were no changes to the electoral laws - the electoral enrolment is such that inevitably the Mining and Pastoral Region would have one of its six seats removed. That is the inevitable consequence of the combined effect of the cleansing of the electoral roll on the part of members opposite. They have participated in stripping down the electoral roll of that region. The Liberal Party regularly engages in electoral roll cleansing. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: The member raised this issue yesterday, and he is incorrect. I ask that he confine his remarks to answering the question. This issue about cleansing the roll has nothing to do with representations on behalf of his region in respect of one vote, one value. The PRESIDENT: The minister will address the question and hopefully bring his answer to a conclusion, as it seems he has already provided some of the answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon TOM STEPHENS: I take great pride and delight in representing the people of the Mining and Pastoral Region, who have not been advantaged by vote weighting or, in the past, by the Liberal Party advocating on their behalf the cleansing of the electoral rolls in the machinery processes in which it has engaged. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: I raised a point of order a moment ago on this question of cleansing the role, which has absolutely nothing to do with the question or the answer. I ask the minister to at least try to answer the question. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. I believe the minister has answered the question.
(1)-(3) The interesting background to this question is that it was the Liberal Party - The PRESIDENT: Order! The minister will provide an answer rather than interesting background or a ministerial statement. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I remind the Liberal member for the South Metropolitan Region that in the lead-up to the last redistribution, his own colleagues advocated that one seat be stripped from the Mining and Pastoral Region and transferred to the south west. Hon Peter Foss: That is a lie. Hon TOM STEPHENS: That is not a lie. Hon N.F. Moore: That was a proposal from the Electoral Commission in its first run; you know that as well as I do. You argued to put one seat back in the north. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Labor Party successfully argued that the Liberal Party proposal to strip away a seat could not be agreed to under the existing laws. The redistribution proposal that advocated stripping away that seat was not approved. The answer to the honourable member’s question is that under the redistribution that is required under the state Electoral Act in the lead-up to the next state election - even if there were no changes to the electoral laws - the electoral enrolment is such that inevitably the Mining and Pastoral Region would have one of its six seats removed. That is the inevitable consequence of the combined effect of the cleansing of the electoral roll on the part of members opposite. They have participated in stripping down the electoral roll of that region. The Liberal Party regularly engages in electoral roll cleansing. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: The member raised this issue yesterday, and he is incorrect. I ask that he confine his remarks to answering the question. This issue about cleansing the roll has nothing to do with representations on behalf of his region in respect of one vote, one value. The PRESIDENT: The minister will address the question and hopefully bring his answer to a conclusion, as it seems he has already provided some of the answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon TOM STEPHENS: I take great pride and delight in representing the people of the Mining and Pastoral Region, who have not been advantaged by vote weighting or, in the past, by the Liberal Party advocating on their behalf the cleansing of the electoral rolls in the machinery processes in which it has engaged. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: I raised a point of order a moment ago on this question of cleansing the role, which has absolutely nothing to do with the question or the answer. I ask the minister to at least try to answer the question. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. I believe the minister has answered the question.
The PRESIDENT: Order! The minister will provide an answer rather than interesting background or a ministerial statement. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I remind the Liberal member for the South Metropolitan Region that in the lead-up to the last redistribution, his own colleagues advocated that one seat be stripped from the Mining and Pastoral Region and transferred to the south west. Hon Peter Foss: That is a lie. Hon TOM STEPHENS: That is not a lie. Hon N.F. Moore: That was a proposal from the Electoral Commission in its first run; you know that as well as I do. You argued to put one seat back in the north. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Labor Party successfully argued that the Liberal Party proposal to strip away a seat could not be agreed to under the existing laws. The redistribution proposal that advocated stripping away that seat was not approved. The answer to the honourable member’s question is that under the redistribution that is required under the state Electoral Act in the lead-up to the next state election - even if there were no changes to the electoral laws - the electoral enrolment is such that inevitably the Mining and Pastoral Region would have one of its six seats removed. That is the inevitable consequence of the combined effect of the cleansing of the electoral roll on the part of members opposite. They have participated in stripping down the electoral roll of that region. The Liberal Party regularly engages in electoral roll cleansing. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: The member raised this issue yesterday, and he is incorrect. I ask that he confine his remarks to answering the question. This issue about cleansing the roll has nothing to do with representations on behalf of his region in respect of one vote, one value. The PRESIDENT: The minister will address the question and hopefully bring his answer to a conclusion, as it seems he has already provided some of the answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon TOM STEPHENS: I take great pride and delight in representing the people of the Mining and Pastoral Region, who have not been advantaged by vote weighting or, in the past, by the Liberal Party advocating on their behalf the cleansing of the electoral rolls in the machinery processes in which it has engaged. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: I raised a point of order a moment ago on this question of cleansing the role, which has absolutely nothing to do with the question or the answer. I ask the minister to at least try to answer the question. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. I believe the minister has answered the question.
Hon TOM STEPHENS: I remind the Liberal member for the South Metropolitan Region that in the lead-up to the last redistribution, his own colleagues advocated that one seat be stripped from the Mining and Pastoral Region and transferred to the south west. Hon Peter Foss: That is a lie. Hon TOM STEPHENS: That is not a lie. Hon N.F. Moore: That was a proposal from the Electoral Commission in its first run; you know that as well as I do. You argued to put one seat back in the north. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Labor Party successfully argued that the Liberal Party proposal to strip away a seat could not be agreed to under the existing laws. The redistribution proposal that advocated stripping away that seat was not approved. The answer to the honourable member’s question is that under the redistribution that is required under the state Electoral Act in the lead-up to the next state election - even if there were no changes to the electoral laws - the electoral enrolment is such that inevitably the Mining and Pastoral Region would have one of its six seats removed. That is the inevitable consequence of the combined effect of the cleansing of the electoral roll on the part of members opposite. They have participated in stripping down the electoral roll of that region. The Liberal Party regularly engages in electoral roll cleansing. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: The member raised this issue yesterday, and he is incorrect. I ask that he confine his remarks to answering the question. This issue about cleansing the roll has nothing to do with representations on behalf of his region in respect of one vote, one value. The PRESIDENT: The minister will address the question and hopefully bring his answer to a conclusion, as it seems he has already provided some of the answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon TOM STEPHENS: I take great pride and delight in representing the people of the Mining and Pastoral Region, who have not been advantaged by vote weighting or, in the past, by the Liberal Party advocating on their behalf the cleansing of the electoral rolls in the machinery processes in which it has engaged. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: I raised a point of order a moment ago on this question of cleansing the role, which has absolutely nothing to do with the question or the answer. I ask the minister to at least try to answer the question. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. I believe the minister has answered the question.
Hon Peter Foss: That is a lie. Hon TOM STEPHENS: That is not a lie. Hon N.F. Moore: That was a proposal from the Electoral Commission in its first run; you know that as well as I do. You argued to put one seat back in the north. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Labor Party successfully argued that the Liberal Party proposal to strip away a seat could not be agreed to under the existing laws. The redistribution proposal that advocated stripping away that seat was not approved. The answer to the honourable member’s question is that under the redistribution that is required under the state Electoral Act in the lead-up to the next state election - even if there were no changes to the electoral laws - the electoral enrolment is such that inevitably the Mining and Pastoral Region would have one of its six seats removed. That is the inevitable consequence of the combined effect of the cleansing of the electoral roll on the part of members opposite. They have participated in stripping down the electoral roll of that region. The Liberal Party regularly engages in electoral roll cleansing. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: The member raised this issue yesterday, and he is incorrect. I ask that he confine his remarks to answering the question. This issue about cleansing the roll has nothing to do with representations on behalf of his region in respect of one vote, one value. The PRESIDENT: The minister will address the question and hopefully bring his answer to a conclusion, as it seems he has already provided some of the answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon TOM STEPHENS: I take great pride and delight in representing the people of the Mining and Pastoral Region, who have not been advantaged by vote weighting or, in the past, by the Liberal Party advocating on their behalf the cleansing of the electoral rolls in the machinery processes in which it has engaged. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: I raised a point of order a moment ago on this question of cleansing the role, which has absolutely nothing to do with the question or the answer. I ask the minister to at least try to answer the question. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. I believe the minister has answered the question.
Hon TOM STEPHENS: That is not a lie. Hon N.F. Moore: That was a proposal from the Electoral Commission in its first run; you know that as well as I do. You argued to put one seat back in the north. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Labor Party successfully argued that the Liberal Party proposal to strip away a seat could not be agreed to under the existing laws. The redistribution proposal that advocated stripping away that seat was not approved. The answer to the honourable member’s question is that under the redistribution that is required under the state Electoral Act in the lead-up to the next state election - even if there were no changes to the electoral laws - the electoral enrolment is such that inevitably the Mining and Pastoral Region would have one of its six seats removed. That is the inevitable consequence of the combined effect of the cleansing of the electoral roll on the part of members opposite. They have participated in stripping down the electoral roll of that region. The Liberal Party regularly engages in electoral roll cleansing. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: The member raised this issue yesterday, and he is incorrect. I ask that he confine his remarks to answering the question. This issue about cleansing the roll has nothing to do with representations on behalf of his region in respect of one vote, one value. The PRESIDENT: The minister will address the question and hopefully bring his answer to a conclusion, as it seems he has already provided some of the answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon TOM STEPHENS: I take great pride and delight in representing the people of the Mining and Pastoral Region, who have not been advantaged by vote weighting or, in the past, by the Liberal Party advocating on their behalf the cleansing of the electoral rolls in the machinery processes in which it has engaged. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: I raised a point of order a moment ago on this question of cleansing the role, which has absolutely nothing to do with the question or the answer. I ask the minister to at least try to answer the question. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. I believe the minister has answered the question.
Hon N.F. Moore: That was a proposal from the Electoral Commission in its first run; you know that as well as I do. You argued to put one seat back in the north. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Labor Party successfully argued that the Liberal Party proposal to strip away a seat could not be agreed to under the existing laws. The redistribution proposal that advocated stripping away that seat was not approved. The answer to the honourable member’s question is that under the redistribution that is required under the state Electoral Act in the lead-up to the next state election - even if there were no changes to the electoral laws - the electoral enrolment is such that inevitably the Mining and Pastoral Region would have one of its six seats removed. That is the inevitable consequence of the combined effect of the cleansing of the electoral roll on the part of members opposite. They have participated in stripping down the electoral roll of that region. The Liberal Party regularly engages in electoral roll cleansing. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: The member raised this issue yesterday, and he is incorrect. I ask that he confine his remarks to answering the question. This issue about cleansing the roll has nothing to do with representations on behalf of his region in respect of one vote, one value. The PRESIDENT: The minister will address the question and hopefully bring his answer to a conclusion, as it seems he has already provided some of the answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon TOM STEPHENS: I take great pride and delight in representing the people of the Mining and Pastoral Region, who have not been advantaged by vote weighting or, in the past, by the Liberal Party advocating on their behalf the cleansing of the electoral rolls in the machinery processes in which it has engaged. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: I raised a point of order a moment ago on this question of cleansing the role, which has absolutely nothing to do with the question or the answer. I ask the minister to at least try to answer the question. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. I believe the minister has answered the question.
Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Labor Party successfully argued that the Liberal Party proposal to strip away a seat could not be agreed to under the existing laws. The redistribution proposal that advocated stripping away that seat was not approved. The answer to the honourable member’s question is that under the redistribution that is required under the state Electoral Act in the lead-up to the next state election - even if there were no changes to the electoral laws - the electoral enrolment is such that inevitably the Mining and Pastoral Region would have one of its six seats removed. That is the inevitable consequence of the combined effect of the cleansing of the electoral roll on the part of members opposite. They have participated in stripping down the electoral roll of that region. The Liberal Party regularly engages in electoral roll cleansing. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: The member raised this issue yesterday, and he is incorrect. I ask that he confine his remarks to answering the question. This issue about cleansing the roll has nothing to do with representations on behalf of his region in respect of one vote, one value. The PRESIDENT: The minister will address the question and hopefully bring his answer to a conclusion, as it seems he has already provided some of the answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon TOM STEPHENS: I take great pride and delight in representing the people of the Mining and Pastoral Region, who have not been advantaged by vote weighting or, in the past, by the Liberal Party advocating on their behalf the cleansing of the electoral rolls in the machinery processes in which it has engaged. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: I raised a point of order a moment ago on this question of cleansing the role, which has absolutely nothing to do with the question or the answer. I ask the minister to at least try to answer the question. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. I believe the minister has answered the question.
The PRESIDENT: The minister will address the question and hopefully bring his answer to a conclusion, as it seems he has already provided some of the answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon TOM STEPHENS: I take great pride and delight in representing the people of the Mining and Pastoral Region, who have not been advantaged by vote weighting or, in the past, by the Liberal Party advocating on their behalf the cleansing of the electoral rolls in the machinery processes in which it has engaged. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: I raised a point of order a moment ago on this question of cleansing the role, which has absolutely nothing to do with the question or the answer. I ask the minister to at least try to answer the question. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. I believe the minister has answered the question.
The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. I believe the minister has answered the question.
(2) Have local communities in these regions made representations to the minister expressing strong opposition to the reduction in the number of members who will represent them as proposed by the Gallop Labor Government? (3) If so, has the minister faithfully represented these views to the Cabinet - yes or no? Hon TOM STEPHENS replied: (1)-(3) The interesting background to this question is that it was the Liberal Party - The PRESIDENT: Order! The minister will provide an answer rather than interesting background or a ministerial statement. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I remind the Liberal member for the South Metropolitan Region that in the lead-up to the last redistribution, his own colleagues advocated that one seat be stripped from the Mining and Pastoral Region and transferred to the south west. Hon Peter Foss: That is a lie. Hon TOM STEPHENS: That is not a lie. Hon N.F. Moore: That was a proposal from the Electoral Commission in its first run; you know that as well as I do. You argued to put one seat back in the north. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Labor Party successfully argued that the Liberal Party proposal to strip away a seat could not be agreed to under the existing laws. The redistribution proposal that advocated stripping away that seat was not approved. The answer to the honourable member’s question is that under the redistribution that is required under the state Electoral Act in the lead-up to the next state election - even if there were no changes to the electoral laws - the electoral enrolment is such that inevitably the Mining and Pastoral Region would have one of its six seats removed. That is the inevitable consequence of the combined effect of the cleansing of the electoral roll on the part of members opposite. They have participated in stripping down the electoral roll of that region. The Liberal Party regularly engages in electoral roll cleansing. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: The member raised this issue yesterday, and he is incorrect. I ask that he confine his remarks to answering the question. This issue about cleansing the roll has nothing to do with representations on behalf of his region in respect of one vote, one value. The PRESIDENT: The minister will address the question and hopefully bring his answer to a conclusion, as it seems he has already provided some of the answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon TOM STEPHENS: I take great pride and delight in representing the people of the Mining and Pastoral Region, who have not been advantaged by vote weighting or, in the past, by the Liberal Party advocating on their behalf the cleansing of the electoral rolls in the machinery processes in which it has engaged. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: I raised a point of order a moment ago on this question of cleansing the role, which has absolutely nothing to do with the question or the answer. I ask the minister to at least try to answer the question. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. I believe the minister has answered the question.
(3) If so, has the minister faithfully represented these views to the Cabinet - yes or no? Hon TOM STEPHENS replied: (1)-(3) The interesting background to this question is that it was the Liberal Party - The PRESIDENT: Order! The minister will provide an answer rather than interesting background or a ministerial statement. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I remind the Liberal member for the South Metropolitan Region that in the lead-up to the last redistribution, his own colleagues advocated that one seat be stripped from the Mining and Pastoral Region and transferred to the south west. Hon Peter Foss: That is a lie. Hon TOM STEPHENS: That is not a lie. Hon N.F. Moore: That was a proposal from the Electoral Commission in its first run; you know that as well as I do. You argued to put one seat back in the north. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Labor Party successfully argued that the Liberal Party proposal to strip away a seat could not be agreed to under the existing laws. The redistribution proposal that advocated stripping away that seat was not approved. The answer to the honourable member’s question is that under the redistribution that is required under the state Electoral Act in the lead-up to the next state election - even if there were no changes to the electoral laws - the electoral enrolment is such that inevitably the Mining and Pastoral Region would have one of its six seats removed. That is the inevitable consequence of the combined effect of the cleansing of the electoral roll on the part of members opposite. They have participated in stripping down the electoral roll of that region. The Liberal Party regularly engages in electoral roll cleansing. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: The member raised this issue yesterday, and he is incorrect. I ask that he confine his remarks to answering the question. This issue about cleansing the roll has nothing to do with representations on behalf of his region in respect of one vote, one value. The PRESIDENT: The minister will address the question and hopefully bring his answer to a conclusion, as it seems he has already provided some of the answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon TOM STEPHENS: I take great pride and delight in representing the people of the Mining and Pastoral Region, who have not been advantaged by vote weighting or, in the past, by the Liberal Party advocating on their behalf the cleansing of the electoral rolls in the machinery processes in which it has engaged. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: I raised a point of order a moment ago on this question of cleansing the role, which has absolutely nothing to do with the question or the answer. I ask the minister to at least try to answer the question. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. I believe the minister has answered the question.
Hon TOM STEPHENS replied: (1)-(3) The interesting background to this question is that it was the Liberal Party - The PRESIDENT: Order! The minister will provide an answer rather than interesting background or a ministerial statement. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I remind the Liberal member for the South Metropolitan Region that in the lead-up to the last redistribution, his own colleagues advocated that one seat be stripped from the Mining and Pastoral Region and transferred to the south west. Hon Peter Foss: That is a lie. Hon TOM STEPHENS: That is not a lie. Hon N.F. Moore: That was a proposal from the Electoral Commission in its first run; you know that as well as I do. You argued to put one seat back in the north. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Labor Party successfully argued that the Liberal Party proposal to strip away a seat could not be agreed to under the existing laws. The redistribution proposal that advocated stripping away that seat was not approved. The answer to the honourable member’s question is that under the redistribution that is required under the state Electoral Act in the lead-up to the next state election - even if there were no changes to the electoral laws - the electoral enrolment is such that inevitably the Mining and Pastoral Region would have one of its six seats removed. That is the inevitable consequence of the combined effect of the cleansing of the electoral roll on the part of members opposite. They have participated in stripping down the electoral roll of that region. The Liberal Party regularly engages in electoral roll cleansing. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: The member raised this issue yesterday, and he is incorrect. I ask that he confine his remarks to answering the question. This issue about cleansing the roll has nothing to do with representations on behalf of his region in respect of one vote, one value. The PRESIDENT: The minister will address the question and hopefully bring his answer to a conclusion, as it seems he has already provided some of the answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon TOM STEPHENS: I take great pride and delight in representing the people of the Mining and Pastoral Region, who have not been advantaged by vote weighting or, in the past, by the Liberal Party advocating on their behalf the cleansing of the electoral rolls in the machinery processes in which it has engaged. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: I raised a point of order a moment ago on this question of cleansing the role, which has absolutely nothing to do with the question or the answer. I ask the minister to at least try to answer the question. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. I believe the minister has answered the question.
(1)-(3) The interesting background to this question is that it was the Liberal Party - The PRESIDENT: Order! The minister will provide an answer rather than interesting background or a ministerial statement. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I remind the Liberal member for the South Metropolitan Region that in the lead-up to the last redistribution, his own colleagues advocated that one seat be stripped from the Mining and Pastoral Region and transferred to the south west. Hon Peter Foss: That is a lie. Hon TOM STEPHENS: That is not a lie. Hon N.F. Moore: That was a proposal from the Electoral Commission in its first run; you know that as well as I do. You argued to put one seat back in the north. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Labor Party successfully argued that the Liberal Party proposal to strip away a seat could not be agreed to under the existing laws. The redistribution proposal that advocated stripping away that seat was not approved. The answer to the honourable member’s question is that under the redistribution that is required under the state Electoral Act in the lead-up to the next state election - even if there were no changes to the electoral laws - the electoral enrolment is such that inevitably the Mining and Pastoral Region would have one of its six seats removed. That is the inevitable consequence of the combined effect of the cleansing of the electoral roll on the part of members opposite. They have participated in stripping down the electoral roll of that region. The Liberal Party regularly engages in electoral roll cleansing. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: The member raised this issue yesterday, and he is incorrect. I ask that he confine his remarks to answering the question. This issue about cleansing the roll has nothing to do with representations on behalf of his region in respect of one vote, one value. The PRESIDENT: The minister will address the question and hopefully bring his answer to a conclusion, as it seems he has already provided some of the answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon TOM STEPHENS: I take great pride and delight in representing the people of the Mining and Pastoral Region, who have not been advantaged by vote weighting or, in the past, by the Liberal Party advocating on their behalf the cleansing of the electoral rolls in the machinery processes in which it has engaged. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: I raised a point of order a moment ago on this question of cleansing the role, which has absolutely nothing to do with the question or the answer. I ask the minister to at least try to answer the question. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. I believe the minister has answered the question.
The PRESIDENT: Order! The minister will provide an answer rather than interesting background or a ministerial statement. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I remind the Liberal member for the South Metropolitan Region that in the lead-up to the last redistribution, his own colleagues advocated that one seat be stripped from the Mining and Pastoral Region and transferred to the south west. Hon Peter Foss: That is a lie. Hon TOM STEPHENS: That is not a lie. Hon N.F. Moore: That was a proposal from the Electoral Commission in its first run; you know that as well as I do. You argued to put one seat back in the north. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Labor Party successfully argued that the Liberal Party proposal to strip away a seat could not be agreed to under the existing laws. The redistribution proposal that advocated stripping away that seat was not approved. The answer to the honourable member’s question is that under the redistribution that is required under the state Electoral Act in the lead-up to the next state election - even if there were no changes to the electoral laws - the electoral enrolment is such that inevitably the Mining and Pastoral Region would have one of its six seats removed. That is the inevitable consequence of the combined effect of the cleansing of the electoral roll on the part of members opposite. They have participated in stripping down the electoral roll of that region. The Liberal Party regularly engages in electoral roll cleansing. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: The member raised this issue yesterday, and he is incorrect. I ask that he confine his remarks to answering the question. This issue about cleansing the roll has nothing to do with representations on behalf of his region in respect of one vote, one value. The PRESIDENT: The minister will address the question and hopefully bring his answer to a conclusion, as it seems he has already provided some of the answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon TOM STEPHENS: I take great pride and delight in representing the people of the Mining and Pastoral Region, who have not been advantaged by vote weighting or, in the past, by the Liberal Party advocating on their behalf the cleansing of the electoral rolls in the machinery processes in which it has engaged. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: I raised a point of order a moment ago on this question of cleansing the role, which has absolutely nothing to do with the question or the answer. I ask the minister to at least try to answer the question. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. I believe the minister has answered the question.
Hon TOM STEPHENS: I remind the Liberal member for the South Metropolitan Region that in the lead-up to the last redistribution, his own colleagues advocated that one seat be stripped from the Mining and Pastoral Region and transferred to the south west. Hon Peter Foss: That is a lie. Hon TOM STEPHENS: That is not a lie. Hon N.F. Moore: That was a proposal from the Electoral Commission in its first run; you know that as well as I do. You argued to put one seat back in the north. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Labor Party successfully argued that the Liberal Party proposal to strip away a seat could not be agreed to under the existing laws. The redistribution proposal that advocated stripping away that seat was not approved. The answer to the honourable member’s question is that under the redistribution that is required under the state Electoral Act in the lead-up to the next state election - even if there were no changes to the electoral laws - the electoral enrolment is such that inevitably the Mining and Pastoral Region would have one of its six seats removed. That is the inevitable consequence of the combined effect of the cleansing of the electoral roll on the part of members opposite. They have participated in stripping down the electoral roll of that region. The Liberal Party regularly engages in electoral roll cleansing. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: The member raised this issue yesterday, and he is incorrect. I ask that he confine his remarks to answering the question. This issue about cleansing the roll has nothing to do with representations on behalf of his region in respect of one vote, one value. The PRESIDENT: The minister will address the question and hopefully bring his answer to a conclusion, as it seems he has already provided some of the answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon TOM STEPHENS: I take great pride and delight in representing the people of the Mining and Pastoral Region, who have not been advantaged by vote weighting or, in the past, by the Liberal Party advocating on their behalf the cleansing of the electoral rolls in the machinery processes in which it has engaged. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: I raised a point of order a moment ago on this question of cleansing the role, which has absolutely nothing to do with the question or the answer. I ask the minister to at least try to answer the question. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. I believe the minister has answered the question.
Hon Peter Foss: That is a lie. Hon TOM STEPHENS: That is not a lie. Hon N.F. Moore: That was a proposal from the Electoral Commission in its first run; you know that as well as I do. You argued to put one seat back in the north. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Labor Party successfully argued that the Liberal Party proposal to strip away a seat could not be agreed to under the existing laws. The redistribution proposal that advocated stripping away that seat was not approved. The answer to the honourable member’s question is that under the redistribution that is required under the state Electoral Act in the lead-up to the next state election - even if there were no changes to the electoral laws - the electoral enrolment is such that inevitably the Mining and Pastoral Region would have one of its six seats removed. That is the inevitable consequence of the combined effect of the cleansing of the electoral roll on the part of members opposite. They have participated in stripping down the electoral roll of that region. The Liberal Party regularly engages in electoral roll cleansing. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: The member raised this issue yesterday, and he is incorrect. I ask that he confine his remarks to answering the question. This issue about cleansing the roll has nothing to do with representations on behalf of his region in respect of one vote, one value. The PRESIDENT: The minister will address the question and hopefully bring his answer to a conclusion, as it seems he has already provided some of the answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon TOM STEPHENS: I take great pride and delight in representing the people of the Mining and Pastoral Region, who have not been advantaged by vote weighting or, in the past, by the Liberal Party advocating on their behalf the cleansing of the electoral rolls in the machinery processes in which it has engaged. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: I raised a point of order a moment ago on this question of cleansing the role, which has absolutely nothing to do with the question or the answer. I ask the minister to at least try to answer the question. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. I believe the minister has answered the question.
Hon TOM STEPHENS: That is not a lie. Hon N.F. Moore: That was a proposal from the Electoral Commission in its first run; you know that as well as I do. You argued to put one seat back in the north. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Labor Party successfully argued that the Liberal Party proposal to strip away a seat could not be agreed to under the existing laws. The redistribution proposal that advocated stripping away that seat was not approved. The answer to the honourable member’s question is that under the redistribution that is required under the state Electoral Act in the lead-up to the next state election - even if there were no changes to the electoral laws - the electoral enrolment is such that inevitably the Mining and Pastoral Region would have one of its six seats removed. That is the inevitable consequence of the combined effect of the cleansing of the electoral roll on the part of members opposite. They have participated in stripping down the electoral roll of that region. The Liberal Party regularly engages in electoral roll cleansing. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: The member raised this issue yesterday, and he is incorrect. I ask that he confine his remarks to answering the question. This issue about cleansing the roll has nothing to do with representations on behalf of his region in respect of one vote, one value. The PRESIDENT: The minister will address the question and hopefully bring his answer to a conclusion, as it seems he has already provided some of the answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon TOM STEPHENS: I take great pride and delight in representing the people of the Mining and Pastoral Region, who have not been advantaged by vote weighting or, in the past, by the Liberal Party advocating on their behalf the cleansing of the electoral rolls in the machinery processes in which it has engaged. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: I raised a point of order a moment ago on this question of cleansing the role, which has absolutely nothing to do with the question or the answer. I ask the minister to at least try to answer the question. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. I believe the minister has answered the question.
Hon N.F. Moore: That was a proposal from the Electoral Commission in its first run; you know that as well as I do. You argued to put one seat back in the north. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Labor Party successfully argued that the Liberal Party proposal to strip away a seat could not be agreed to under the existing laws. The redistribution proposal that advocated stripping away that seat was not approved. The answer to the honourable member’s question is that under the redistribution that is required under the state Electoral Act in the lead-up to the next state election - even if there were no changes to the electoral laws - the electoral enrolment is such that inevitably the Mining and Pastoral Region would have one of its six seats removed. That is the inevitable consequence of the combined effect of the cleansing of the electoral roll on the part of members opposite. They have participated in stripping down the electoral roll of that region. The Liberal Party regularly engages in electoral roll cleansing. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: The member raised this issue yesterday, and he is incorrect. I ask that he confine his remarks to answering the question. This issue about cleansing the roll has nothing to do with representations on behalf of his region in respect of one vote, one value. The PRESIDENT: The minister will address the question and hopefully bring his answer to a conclusion, as it seems he has already provided some of the answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon TOM STEPHENS: I take great pride and delight in representing the people of the Mining and Pastoral Region, who have not been advantaged by vote weighting or, in the past, by the Liberal Party advocating on their behalf the cleansing of the electoral rolls in the machinery processes in which it has engaged. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: I raised a point of order a moment ago on this question of cleansing the role, which has absolutely nothing to do with the question or the answer. I ask the minister to at least try to answer the question. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. I believe the minister has answered the question.
Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Labor Party successfully argued that the Liberal Party proposal to strip away a seat could not be agreed to under the existing laws. The redistribution proposal that advocated stripping away that seat was not approved. The answer to the honourable member’s question is that under the redistribution that is required under the state Electoral Act in the lead-up to the next state election - even if there were no changes to the electoral laws - the electoral enrolment is such that inevitably the Mining and Pastoral Region would have one of its six seats removed. That is the inevitable consequence of the combined effect of the cleansing of the electoral roll on the part of members opposite. They have participated in stripping down the electoral roll of that region. The Liberal Party regularly engages in electoral roll cleansing. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: The member raised this issue yesterday, and he is incorrect. I ask that he confine his remarks to answering the question. This issue about cleansing the roll has nothing to do with representations on behalf of his region in respect of one vote, one value. The PRESIDENT: The minister will address the question and hopefully bring his answer to a conclusion, as it seems he has already provided some of the answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon TOM STEPHENS: I take great pride and delight in representing the people of the Mining and Pastoral Region, who have not been advantaged by vote weighting or, in the past, by the Liberal Party advocating on their behalf the cleansing of the electoral rolls in the machinery processes in which it has engaged. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: I raised a point of order a moment ago on this question of cleansing the role, which has absolutely nothing to do with the question or the answer. I ask the minister to at least try to answer the question. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. I believe the minister has answered the question.
The PRESIDENT: The minister will address the question and hopefully bring his answer to a conclusion, as it seems he has already provided some of the answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon TOM STEPHENS: I take great pride and delight in representing the people of the Mining and Pastoral Region, who have not been advantaged by vote weighting or, in the past, by the Liberal Party advocating on their behalf the cleansing of the electoral rolls in the machinery processes in which it has engaged. Point of Order Hon N.F. MOORE: I raised a point of order a moment ago on this question of cleansing the role, which has absolutely nothing to do with the question or the answer. I ask the minister to at least try to answer the question. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. I believe the minister has answered the question.
The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. I believe the minister has answered the question.
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