Mrs Roberts questions the Minister for Education about tabling a report on teacher shortages. The Minister avoids a direct commitment, citing cabinet processes, leading to interruptions and highlighting accountability concerns.

AnsweredQoN 535Legislative Assembly
Asked
16 September 2010
Portfolio
Education

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MINISTER FOR EDUCATION — TEACHER DEMAND AND SUPPLY REPORT
My question is about the minister’s accountability to this Parliament. (1) Will the minister table in this house the Department of Education’s report on teacher demand and supply so that we can be properly informed on why the department now predicts that we could be 3 000 teachers short in just four years? (2) What possible sensitive information could be in such a report that the minister would need to keep it from the public? Dr E. CONSTABLE

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(1)–(2) I thank the member for the question because it touches on a very, very important issue that is obviously fundamental to — Mrs M.H. Roberts : The minister’s accountability; that is what the question is about. Dr E. CONSTABLE : — how our schools operate and how well they operate. We have known for a numbers of years — Mrs M.H. Roberts : It is fundamental to the minister and her accountability. I am asking if the minister will table the report. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, I have given you the opportunity to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : We have known for a number of years there are teacher shortages in particular areas. We have also known, from the work that was done by the previous government, in around about the year 2015 we can expect substantial—grave, in fact—teacher shortages. Building on the work of the previous government over the past couple of years — Mrs M.H. Roberts : What about you as education minister here and now; will you table the report? The SPEAKER : Take a seat, minister. Mr J.R. Quigley : What do you mean about the previous government? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time. If people stop interjecting, they may get an answer. They may not get the answer they want, but they will get an answer. It is the process in this place. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Building on the work of the previous government, over the past months I have asked the department to continue to work on teacher shortage projections. That work is presently being incorporated into a major cabinet submission. The information and the report that the member has asked me to table forms part of cabinet documents. When that has been dealt with by cabinet, I will be happy to table it.
(1) Will the minister table in this house the Department of Education’s report on teacher demand and supply so that we can be properly informed on why the department now predicts that we could be 3 000 teachers short in just four years? (2) What possible sensitive information could be in such a report that the minister would need to keep it from the public? Dr E. CONSTABLE replied: (1)–(2) I thank the member for the question because it touches on a very, very important issue that is obviously fundamental to — Mrs M.H. Roberts : The minister’s accountability; that is what the question is about. Dr E. CONSTABLE : — how our schools operate and how well they operate. We have known for a numbers of years — Mrs M.H. Roberts : It is fundamental to the minister and her accountability. I am asking if the minister will table the report. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, I have given you the opportunity to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : We have known for a number of years there are teacher shortages in particular areas. We have also known, from the work that was done by the previous government, in around about the year 2015 we can expect substantial—grave, in fact—teacher shortages. Building on the work of the previous government over the past couple of years — Mrs M.H. Roberts : What about you as education minister here and now; will you table the report? The SPEAKER : Take a seat, minister. Mr J.R. Quigley : What do you mean about the previous government? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time. If people stop interjecting, they may get an answer. They may not get the answer they want, but they will get an answer. It is the process in this place. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Building on the work of the previous government, over the past months I have asked the department to continue to work on teacher shortage projections. That work is presently being incorporated into a major cabinet submission. The information and the report that the member has asked me to table forms part of cabinet documents. When that has been dealt with by cabinet, I will be happy to table it.
(2) What possible sensitive information could be in such a report that the minister would need to keep it from the public? Dr E. CONSTABLE replied: (1)–(2) I thank the member for the question because it touches on a very, very important issue that is obviously fundamental to — Mrs M.H. Roberts : The minister’s accountability; that is what the question is about. Dr E. CONSTABLE : — how our schools operate and how well they operate. We have known for a numbers of years — Mrs M.H. Roberts : It is fundamental to the minister and her accountability. I am asking if the minister will table the report. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, I have given you the opportunity to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : We have known for a number of years there are teacher shortages in particular areas. We have also known, from the work that was done by the previous government, in around about the year 2015 we can expect substantial—grave, in fact—teacher shortages. Building on the work of the previous government over the past couple of years — Mrs M.H. Roberts : What about you as education minister here and now; will you table the report? The SPEAKER : Take a seat, minister. Mr J.R. Quigley : What do you mean about the previous government? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time. If people stop interjecting, they may get an answer. They may not get the answer they want, but they will get an answer. It is the process in this place. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Building on the work of the previous government, over the past months I have asked the department to continue to work on teacher shortage projections. That work is presently being incorporated into a major cabinet submission. The information and the report that the member has asked me to table forms part of cabinet documents. When that has been dealt with by cabinet, I will be happy to table it.
Dr E. CONSTABLE replied: (1)–(2) I thank the member for the question because it touches on a very, very important issue that is obviously fundamental to — Mrs M.H. Roberts : The minister’s accountability; that is what the question is about. Dr E. CONSTABLE : — how our schools operate and how well they operate. We have known for a numbers of years — Mrs M.H. Roberts : It is fundamental to the minister and her accountability. I am asking if the minister will table the report. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, I have given you the opportunity to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : We have known for a number of years there are teacher shortages in particular areas. We have also known, from the work that was done by the previous government, in around about the year 2015 we can expect substantial—grave, in fact—teacher shortages. Building on the work of the previous government over the past couple of years — Mrs M.H. Roberts : What about you as education minister here and now; will you table the report? The SPEAKER : Take a seat, minister. Mr J.R. Quigley : What do you mean about the previous government? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time. If people stop interjecting, they may get an answer. They may not get the answer they want, but they will get an answer. It is the process in this place. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Building on the work of the previous government, over the past months I have asked the department to continue to work on teacher shortage projections. That work is presently being incorporated into a major cabinet submission. The information and the report that the member has asked me to table forms part of cabinet documents. When that has been dealt with by cabinet, I will be happy to table it.
(1)–(2) I thank the member for the question because it touches on a very, very important issue that is obviously fundamental to — Mrs M.H. Roberts : The minister’s accountability; that is what the question is about. Dr E. CONSTABLE : — how our schools operate and how well they operate. We have known for a numbers of years — Mrs M.H. Roberts : It is fundamental to the minister and her accountability. I am asking if the minister will table the report. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, I have given you the opportunity to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : We have known for a number of years there are teacher shortages in particular areas. We have also known, from the work that was done by the previous government, in around about the year 2015 we can expect substantial—grave, in fact—teacher shortages. Building on the work of the previous government over the past couple of years — Mrs M.H. Roberts : What about you as education minister here and now; will you table the report? The SPEAKER : Take a seat, minister. Mr J.R. Quigley : What do you mean about the previous government? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time. If people stop interjecting, they may get an answer. They may not get the answer they want, but they will get an answer. It is the process in this place. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Building on the work of the previous government, over the past months I have asked the department to continue to work on teacher shortage projections. That work is presently being incorporated into a major cabinet submission. The information and the report that the member has asked me to table forms part of cabinet documents. When that has been dealt with by cabinet, I will be happy to table it.
Mrs M.H. Roberts : The minister’s accountability; that is what the question is about. Dr E. CONSTABLE : — how our schools operate and how well they operate. We have known for a numbers of years — Mrs M.H. Roberts : It is fundamental to the minister and her accountability. I am asking if the minister will table the report. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, I have given you the opportunity to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : We have known for a number of years there are teacher shortages in particular areas. We have also known, from the work that was done by the previous government, in around about the year 2015 we can expect substantial—grave, in fact—teacher shortages. Building on the work of the previous government over the past couple of years — Mrs M.H. Roberts : What about you as education minister here and now; will you table the report? The SPEAKER : Take a seat, minister. Mr J.R. Quigley : What do you mean about the previous government? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time. If people stop interjecting, they may get an answer. They may not get the answer they want, but they will get an answer. It is the process in this place. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Building on the work of the previous government, over the past months I have asked the department to continue to work on teacher shortage projections. That work is presently being incorporated into a major cabinet submission. The information and the report that the member has asked me to table forms part of cabinet documents. When that has been dealt with by cabinet, I will be happy to table it.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : — how our schools operate and how well they operate. We have known for a numbers of years — Mrs M.H. Roberts : It is fundamental to the minister and her accountability. I am asking if the minister will table the report. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, I have given you the opportunity to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : We have known for a number of years there are teacher shortages in particular areas. We have also known, from the work that was done by the previous government, in around about the year 2015 we can expect substantial—grave, in fact—teacher shortages. Building on the work of the previous government over the past couple of years — Mrs M.H. Roberts : What about you as education minister here and now; will you table the report? The SPEAKER : Take a seat, minister. Mr J.R. Quigley : What do you mean about the previous government? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time. If people stop interjecting, they may get an answer. They may not get the answer they want, but they will get an answer. It is the process in this place. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Building on the work of the previous government, over the past months I have asked the department to continue to work on teacher shortage projections. That work is presently being incorporated into a major cabinet submission. The information and the report that the member has asked me to table forms part of cabinet documents. When that has been dealt with by cabinet, I will be happy to table it.
Mrs M.H. Roberts : It is fundamental to the minister and her accountability. I am asking if the minister will table the report. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, I have given you the opportunity to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : We have known for a number of years there are teacher shortages in particular areas. We have also known, from the work that was done by the previous government, in around about the year 2015 we can expect substantial—grave, in fact—teacher shortages. Building on the work of the previous government over the past couple of years — Mrs M.H. Roberts : What about you as education minister here and now; will you table the report? The SPEAKER : Take a seat, minister. Mr J.R. Quigley : What do you mean about the previous government? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time. If people stop interjecting, they may get an answer. They may not get the answer they want, but they will get an answer. It is the process in this place. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Building on the work of the previous government, over the past months I have asked the department to continue to work on teacher shortage projections. That work is presently being incorporated into a major cabinet submission. The information and the report that the member has asked me to table forms part of cabinet documents. When that has been dealt with by cabinet, I will be happy to table it.
The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, I have given you the opportunity to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : We have known for a number of years there are teacher shortages in particular areas. We have also known, from the work that was done by the previous government, in around about the year 2015 we can expect substantial—grave, in fact—teacher shortages. Building on the work of the previous government over the past couple of years — Mrs M.H. Roberts : What about you as education minister here and now; will you table the report? The SPEAKER : Take a seat, minister. Mr J.R. Quigley : What do you mean about the previous government? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time. If people stop interjecting, they may get an answer. They may not get the answer they want, but they will get an answer. It is the process in this place. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Building on the work of the previous government, over the past months I have asked the department to continue to work on teacher shortage projections. That work is presently being incorporated into a major cabinet submission. The information and the report that the member has asked me to table forms part of cabinet documents. When that has been dealt with by cabinet, I will be happy to table it.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : We have known for a number of years there are teacher shortages in particular areas. We have also known, from the work that was done by the previous government, in around about the year 2015 we can expect substantial—grave, in fact—teacher shortages. Building on the work of the previous government over the past couple of years — Mrs M.H. Roberts : What about you as education minister here and now; will you table the report? The SPEAKER : Take a seat, minister. Mr J.R. Quigley : What do you mean about the previous government? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time. If people stop interjecting, they may get an answer. They may not get the answer they want, but they will get an answer. It is the process in this place. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Building on the work of the previous government, over the past months I have asked the department to continue to work on teacher shortage projections. That work is presently being incorporated into a major cabinet submission. The information and the report that the member has asked me to table forms part of cabinet documents. When that has been dealt with by cabinet, I will be happy to table it.
Mrs M.H. Roberts : What about you as education minister here and now; will you table the report? The SPEAKER : Take a seat, minister. Mr J.R. Quigley : What do you mean about the previous government? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time. If people stop interjecting, they may get an answer. They may not get the answer they want, but they will get an answer. It is the process in this place. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Building on the work of the previous government, over the past months I have asked the department to continue to work on teacher shortage projections. That work is presently being incorporated into a major cabinet submission. The information and the report that the member has asked me to table forms part of cabinet documents. When that has been dealt with by cabinet, I will be happy to table it.
The SPEAKER : Take a seat, minister. Mr J.R. Quigley : What do you mean about the previous government? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time. If people stop interjecting, they may get an answer. They may not get the answer they want, but they will get an answer. It is the process in this place. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Building on the work of the previous government, over the past months I have asked the department to continue to work on teacher shortage projections. That work is presently being incorporated into a major cabinet submission. The information and the report that the member has asked me to table forms part of cabinet documents. When that has been dealt with by cabinet, I will be happy to table it.
Mr J.R. Quigley : What do you mean about the previous government? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time. If people stop interjecting, they may get an answer. They may not get the answer they want, but they will get an answer. It is the process in this place. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Building on the work of the previous government, over the past months I have asked the department to continue to work on teacher shortage projections. That work is presently being incorporated into a major cabinet submission. The information and the report that the member has asked me to table forms part of cabinet documents. When that has been dealt with by cabinet, I will be happy to table it.
The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time. If people stop interjecting, they may get an answer. They may not get the answer they want, but they will get an answer. It is the process in this place. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Building on the work of the previous government, over the past months I have asked the department to continue to work on teacher shortage projections. That work is presently being incorporated into a major cabinet submission. The information and the report that the member has asked me to table forms part of cabinet documents. When that has been dealt with by cabinet, I will be happy to table it.
If people stop interjecting, they may get an answer. They may not get the answer they want, but they will get an answer. It is the process in this place. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Building on the work of the previous government, over the past months I have asked the department to continue to work on teacher shortage projections. That work is presently being incorporated into a major cabinet submission. The information and the report that the member has asked me to table forms part of cabinet documents. When that has been dealt with by cabinet, I will be happy to table it.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : Building on the work of the previous government, over the past months I have asked the department to continue to work on teacher shortage projections. That work is presently being incorporated into a major cabinet submission. The information and the report that the member has asked me to table forms part of cabinet documents. When that has been dealt with by cabinet, I will be happy to table it.

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