Question regarding the Minister's delay in explaining the failure of the justice system following a tragic shooting, despite receiving a review. The Minister deflects, citing ongoing court proceedings, a coronial inquiry, and internal disciplinary matters.

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23 October 2003
Portfolio
Justice

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I refer the minister to her statement in this House on 21 August regarding her order of an immediate review into “how such a person known to be at high risk could be apparently loosely managed” following the shooting of a 21-year-old woman, and the tabling today of the “Report on the Review of Case Management Practices for the Supervision of “High Risk” Offenders Within the Community by the Department of Justice”. (1) Given that the initial review of the offender’s management was presented to the director general of the Department of Justice on 9 September, can the minister advise, as a matter of public interest and importance, when she will be in a position to explain the failure of the system, with particular regard to the tragic incidents of 18 and 19 August? (2) Why was this explanation not offered or tabled with the review today? Mrs M.H. ROBERTS

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(1)-(2) I am yet again surprised by the member for Nedlands’ questions. Firstly, in over a month she has not come up with any new questions. She just keeps repeating the same old ones. Several members interjected. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: Do they want an answer or do they want to keep interjecting? The SPEAKER: Order! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: I am also surprised that the member for Nedlands has not had a closer look at the report, because then she would know of the situation with the review that she has referred to. Secondly, I would have thought, with the member’s understanding of justice, policing, and law and order matters, that she would have been able to answer the question herself. Clearly the offender in this case has yet to go before the courts. Ms S.E. Walker: That has nothing to do with it. You are covering up. The SPEAKER: Order, member for Nedlands! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: There are clearly matters that, if brought to light, could well jeopardise the court trial. Further, we are dealing with the death of a young woman. There will need to be a coroner’s inquiry into that death. Ms S.E. Walker: Rubbish! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: It is not rubbish. There will be need to be a coroner’s inquiry. Ms S.E. Walker: Rubbish! The SPEAKER: Order! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: Unfortunately the only person who is talking rubbish is the member for Nedlands. There is a serious issue, yet all the member keeps doing is trying to butt in - Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! There is a limited capacity for a member who asks a question to interject, but that does not give a member permission, after every sentence by the minister, to make her own comments. I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: I was referring to the fact that there will need to be a coronial inquiry into this matter. Naturally any reports that are in the possession of myself and the Department of Justice will be able to form part of that coronial inquiry and will be available to the coroner. The third area is the disciplinary matter that relates to one of the officers in the Department of Justice. Under the Public Sector Management Act there are set processes for that procedure. Those processes were initiated, as I understand it, by the director general of the Department of Justice some weeks ago, and the individual involved has been called upon to respond. That matter has to follow a set course of events, as determined by the Public Sector Management Act. To comment on those matters, or to detail certain events that occurred, would not only jeopardise that inquiry but also could jeopardise any opportunity to take dismissal or other action against the individual concerned.
(1) Given that the initial review of the offender’s management was presented to the director general of the Department of Justice on 9 September, can the minister advise, as a matter of public interest and importance, when she will be in a position to explain the failure of the system, with particular regard to the tragic incidents of 18 and 19 August? (2) Why was this explanation not offered or tabled with the review today? Mrs M.H. ROBERTS replied: (1)-(2) I am yet again surprised by the member for Nedlands’ questions. Firstly, in over a month she has not come up with any new questions. She just keeps repeating the same old ones. Several members interjected. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: Do they want an answer or do they want to keep interjecting? The SPEAKER: Order! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: I am also surprised that the member for Nedlands has not had a closer look at the report, because then she would know of the situation with the review that she has referred to. Secondly, I would have thought, with the member’s understanding of justice, policing, and law and order matters, that she would have been able to answer the question herself. Clearly the offender in this case has yet to go before the courts. Ms S.E. Walker: That has nothing to do with it. You are covering up. The SPEAKER: Order, member for Nedlands! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: There are clearly matters that, if brought to light, could well jeopardise the court trial. Further, we are dealing with the death of a young woman. There will need to be a coroner’s inquiry into that death. Ms S.E. Walker: Rubbish! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: It is not rubbish. There will be need to be a coroner’s inquiry. Ms S.E. Walker: Rubbish! The SPEAKER: Order! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: Unfortunately the only person who is talking rubbish is the member for Nedlands. There is a serious issue, yet all the member keeps doing is trying to butt in - Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! There is a limited capacity for a member who asks a question to interject, but that does not give a member permission, after every sentence by the minister, to make her own comments. I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: I was referring to the fact that there will need to be a coronial inquiry into this matter. Naturally any reports that are in the possession of myself and the Department of Justice will be able to form part of that coronial inquiry and will be available to the coroner. The third area is the disciplinary matter that relates to one of the officers in the Department of Justice. Under the Public Sector Management Act there are set processes for that procedure. Those processes were initiated, as I understand it, by the director general of the Department of Justice some weeks ago, and the individual involved has been called upon to respond. That matter has to follow a set course of events, as determined by the Public Sector Management Act. To comment on those matters, or to detail certain events that occurred, would not only jeopardise that inquiry but also could jeopardise any opportunity to take dismissal or other action against the individual concerned.
(2) Why was this explanation not offered or tabled with the review today? Mrs M.H. ROBERTS replied: (1)-(2) I am yet again surprised by the member for Nedlands’ questions. Firstly, in over a month she has not come up with any new questions. She just keeps repeating the same old ones. Several members interjected. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: Do they want an answer or do they want to keep interjecting? The SPEAKER: Order! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: I am also surprised that the member for Nedlands has not had a closer look at the report, because then she would know of the situation with the review that she has referred to. Secondly, I would have thought, with the member’s understanding of justice, policing, and law and order matters, that she would have been able to answer the question herself. Clearly the offender in this case has yet to go before the courts. Ms S.E. Walker: That has nothing to do with it. You are covering up. The SPEAKER: Order, member for Nedlands! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: There are clearly matters that, if brought to light, could well jeopardise the court trial. Further, we are dealing with the death of a young woman. There will need to be a coroner’s inquiry into that death. Ms S.E. Walker: Rubbish! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: It is not rubbish. There will be need to be a coroner’s inquiry. Ms S.E. Walker: Rubbish! The SPEAKER: Order! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: Unfortunately the only person who is talking rubbish is the member for Nedlands. There is a serious issue, yet all the member keeps doing is trying to butt in - Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! There is a limited capacity for a member who asks a question to interject, but that does not give a member permission, after every sentence by the minister, to make her own comments. I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: I was referring to the fact that there will need to be a coronial inquiry into this matter. Naturally any reports that are in the possession of myself and the Department of Justice will be able to form part of that coronial inquiry and will be available to the coroner. The third area is the disciplinary matter that relates to one of the officers in the Department of Justice. Under the Public Sector Management Act there are set processes for that procedure. Those processes were initiated, as I understand it, by the director general of the Department of Justice some weeks ago, and the individual involved has been called upon to respond. That matter has to follow a set course of events, as determined by the Public Sector Management Act. To comment on those matters, or to detail certain events that occurred, would not only jeopardise that inquiry but also could jeopardise any opportunity to take dismissal or other action against the individual concerned.
Mrs M.H. ROBERTS replied: (1)-(2) I am yet again surprised by the member for Nedlands’ questions. Firstly, in over a month she has not come up with any new questions. She just keeps repeating the same old ones. Several members interjected. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: Do they want an answer or do they want to keep interjecting? The SPEAKER: Order! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: I am also surprised that the member for Nedlands has not had a closer look at the report, because then she would know of the situation with the review that she has referred to. Secondly, I would have thought, with the member’s understanding of justice, policing, and law and order matters, that she would have been able to answer the question herself. Clearly the offender in this case has yet to go before the courts. Ms S.E. Walker: That has nothing to do with it. You are covering up. The SPEAKER: Order, member for Nedlands! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: There are clearly matters that, if brought to light, could well jeopardise the court trial. Further, we are dealing with the death of a young woman. There will need to be a coroner’s inquiry into that death. Ms S.E. Walker: Rubbish! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: It is not rubbish. There will be need to be a coroner’s inquiry. Ms S.E. Walker: Rubbish! The SPEAKER: Order! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: Unfortunately the only person who is talking rubbish is the member for Nedlands. There is a serious issue, yet all the member keeps doing is trying to butt in - Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! There is a limited capacity for a member who asks a question to interject, but that does not give a member permission, after every sentence by the minister, to make her own comments. I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: I was referring to the fact that there will need to be a coronial inquiry into this matter. Naturally any reports that are in the possession of myself and the Department of Justice will be able to form part of that coronial inquiry and will be available to the coroner. The third area is the disciplinary matter that relates to one of the officers in the Department of Justice. Under the Public Sector Management Act there are set processes for that procedure. Those processes were initiated, as I understand it, by the director general of the Department of Justice some weeks ago, and the individual involved has been called upon to respond. That matter has to follow a set course of events, as determined by the Public Sector Management Act. To comment on those matters, or to detail certain events that occurred, would not only jeopardise that inquiry but also could jeopardise any opportunity to take dismissal or other action against the individual concerned.
(1)-(2) I am yet again surprised by the member for Nedlands’ questions. Firstly, in over a month she has not come up with any new questions. She just keeps repeating the same old ones. Several members interjected. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: Do they want an answer or do they want to keep interjecting? The SPEAKER: Order! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: I am also surprised that the member for Nedlands has not had a closer look at the report, because then she would know of the situation with the review that she has referred to. Secondly, I would have thought, with the member’s understanding of justice, policing, and law and order matters, that she would have been able to answer the question herself. Clearly the offender in this case has yet to go before the courts. Ms S.E. Walker: That has nothing to do with it. You are covering up. The SPEAKER: Order, member for Nedlands! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: There are clearly matters that, if brought to light, could well jeopardise the court trial. Further, we are dealing with the death of a young woman. There will need to be a coroner’s inquiry into that death. Ms S.E. Walker: Rubbish! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: It is not rubbish. There will be need to be a coroner’s inquiry. Ms S.E. Walker: Rubbish! The SPEAKER: Order! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: Unfortunately the only person who is talking rubbish is the member for Nedlands. There is a serious issue, yet all the member keeps doing is trying to butt in - Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! There is a limited capacity for a member who asks a question to interject, but that does not give a member permission, after every sentence by the minister, to make her own comments. I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: I was referring to the fact that there will need to be a coronial inquiry into this matter. Naturally any reports that are in the possession of myself and the Department of Justice will be able to form part of that coronial inquiry and will be available to the coroner. The third area is the disciplinary matter that relates to one of the officers in the Department of Justice. Under the Public Sector Management Act there are set processes for that procedure. Those processes were initiated, as I understand it, by the director general of the Department of Justice some weeks ago, and the individual involved has been called upon to respond. That matter has to follow a set course of events, as determined by the Public Sector Management Act. To comment on those matters, or to detail certain events that occurred, would not only jeopardise that inquiry but also could jeopardise any opportunity to take dismissal or other action against the individual concerned.
Several members interjected. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: Do they want an answer or do they want to keep interjecting? The SPEAKER: Order! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: I am also surprised that the member for Nedlands has not had a closer look at the report, because then she would know of the situation with the review that she has referred to. Secondly, I would have thought, with the member’s understanding of justice, policing, and law and order matters, that she would have been able to answer the question herself. Clearly the offender in this case has yet to go before the courts. Ms S.E. Walker: That has nothing to do with it. You are covering up. The SPEAKER: Order, member for Nedlands! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: There are clearly matters that, if brought to light, could well jeopardise the court trial. Further, we are dealing with the death of a young woman. There will need to be a coroner’s inquiry into that death. Ms S.E. Walker: Rubbish! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: It is not rubbish. There will be need to be a coroner’s inquiry. Ms S.E. Walker: Rubbish! The SPEAKER: Order! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: Unfortunately the only person who is talking rubbish is the member for Nedlands. There is a serious issue, yet all the member keeps doing is trying to butt in - Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! There is a limited capacity for a member who asks a question to interject, but that does not give a member permission, after every sentence by the minister, to make her own comments. I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: I was referring to the fact that there will need to be a coronial inquiry into this matter. Naturally any reports that are in the possession of myself and the Department of Justice will be able to form part of that coronial inquiry and will be available to the coroner. The third area is the disciplinary matter that relates to one of the officers in the Department of Justice. Under the Public Sector Management Act there are set processes for that procedure. Those processes were initiated, as I understand it, by the director general of the Department of Justice some weeks ago, and the individual involved has been called upon to respond. That matter has to follow a set course of events, as determined by the Public Sector Management Act. To comment on those matters, or to detail certain events that occurred, would not only jeopardise that inquiry but also could jeopardise any opportunity to take dismissal or other action against the individual concerned.
Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: Do they want an answer or do they want to keep interjecting? The SPEAKER: Order! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: I am also surprised that the member for Nedlands has not had a closer look at the report, because then she would know of the situation with the review that she has referred to. Secondly, I would have thought, with the member’s understanding of justice, policing, and law and order matters, that she would have been able to answer the question herself. Clearly the offender in this case has yet to go before the courts. Ms S.E. Walker: That has nothing to do with it. You are covering up. The SPEAKER: Order, member for Nedlands! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: There are clearly matters that, if brought to light, could well jeopardise the court trial. Further, we are dealing with the death of a young woman. There will need to be a coroner’s inquiry into that death. Ms S.E. Walker: Rubbish! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: It is not rubbish. There will be need to be a coroner’s inquiry. Ms S.E. Walker: Rubbish! The SPEAKER: Order! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: Unfortunately the only person who is talking rubbish is the member for Nedlands. There is a serious issue, yet all the member keeps doing is trying to butt in - Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! There is a limited capacity for a member who asks a question to interject, but that does not give a member permission, after every sentence by the minister, to make her own comments. I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: I was referring to the fact that there will need to be a coronial inquiry into this matter. Naturally any reports that are in the possession of myself and the Department of Justice will be able to form part of that coronial inquiry and will be available to the coroner. The third area is the disciplinary matter that relates to one of the officers in the Department of Justice. Under the Public Sector Management Act there are set processes for that procedure. Those processes were initiated, as I understand it, by the director general of the Department of Justice some weeks ago, and the individual involved has been called upon to respond. That matter has to follow a set course of events, as determined by the Public Sector Management Act. To comment on those matters, or to detail certain events that occurred, would not only jeopardise that inquiry but also could jeopardise any opportunity to take dismissal or other action against the individual concerned.
The SPEAKER: Order! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: I am also surprised that the member for Nedlands has not had a closer look at the report, because then she would know of the situation with the review that she has referred to. Secondly, I would have thought, with the member’s understanding of justice, policing, and law and order matters, that she would have been able to answer the question herself. Clearly the offender in this case has yet to go before the courts. Ms S.E. Walker: That has nothing to do with it. You are covering up. The SPEAKER: Order, member for Nedlands! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: There are clearly matters that, if brought to light, could well jeopardise the court trial. Further, we are dealing with the death of a young woman. There will need to be a coroner’s inquiry into that death. Ms S.E. Walker: Rubbish! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: It is not rubbish. There will be need to be a coroner’s inquiry. Ms S.E. Walker: Rubbish! The SPEAKER: Order! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: Unfortunately the only person who is talking rubbish is the member for Nedlands. There is a serious issue, yet all the member keeps doing is trying to butt in - Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! There is a limited capacity for a member who asks a question to interject, but that does not give a member permission, after every sentence by the minister, to make her own comments. I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: I was referring to the fact that there will need to be a coronial inquiry into this matter. Naturally any reports that are in the possession of myself and the Department of Justice will be able to form part of that coronial inquiry and will be available to the coroner. The third area is the disciplinary matter that relates to one of the officers in the Department of Justice. Under the Public Sector Management Act there are set processes for that procedure. Those processes were initiated, as I understand it, by the director general of the Department of Justice some weeks ago, and the individual involved has been called upon to respond. That matter has to follow a set course of events, as determined by the Public Sector Management Act. To comment on those matters, or to detail certain events that occurred, would not only jeopardise that inquiry but also could jeopardise any opportunity to take dismissal or other action against the individual concerned.
Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: I am also surprised that the member for Nedlands has not had a closer look at the report, because then she would know of the situation with the review that she has referred to. Secondly, I would have thought, with the member’s understanding of justice, policing, and law and order matters, that she would have been able to answer the question herself. Clearly the offender in this case has yet to go before the courts. Ms S.E. Walker: That has nothing to do with it. You are covering up. The SPEAKER: Order, member for Nedlands! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: There are clearly matters that, if brought to light, could well jeopardise the court trial. Further, we are dealing with the death of a young woman. There will need to be a coroner’s inquiry into that death. Ms S.E. Walker: Rubbish! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: It is not rubbish. There will be need to be a coroner’s inquiry. Ms S.E. Walker: Rubbish! The SPEAKER: Order! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: Unfortunately the only person who is talking rubbish is the member for Nedlands. There is a serious issue, yet all the member keeps doing is trying to butt in - Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! There is a limited capacity for a member who asks a question to interject, but that does not give a member permission, after every sentence by the minister, to make her own comments. I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: I was referring to the fact that there will need to be a coronial inquiry into this matter. Naturally any reports that are in the possession of myself and the Department of Justice will be able to form part of that coronial inquiry and will be available to the coroner. The third area is the disciplinary matter that relates to one of the officers in the Department of Justice. Under the Public Sector Management Act there are set processes for that procedure. Those processes were initiated, as I understand it, by the director general of the Department of Justice some weeks ago, and the individual involved has been called upon to respond. That matter has to follow a set course of events, as determined by the Public Sector Management Act. To comment on those matters, or to detail certain events that occurred, would not only jeopardise that inquiry but also could jeopardise any opportunity to take dismissal or other action against the individual concerned.
Ms S.E. Walker: That has nothing to do with it. You are covering up. The SPEAKER: Order, member for Nedlands! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: There are clearly matters that, if brought to light, could well jeopardise the court trial. Further, we are dealing with the death of a young woman. There will need to be a coroner’s inquiry into that death. Ms S.E. Walker: Rubbish! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: It is not rubbish. There will be need to be a coroner’s inquiry. Ms S.E. Walker: Rubbish! The SPEAKER: Order! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: Unfortunately the only person who is talking rubbish is the member for Nedlands. There is a serious issue, yet all the member keeps doing is trying to butt in - Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! There is a limited capacity for a member who asks a question to interject, but that does not give a member permission, after every sentence by the minister, to make her own comments. I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: I was referring to the fact that there will need to be a coronial inquiry into this matter. Naturally any reports that are in the possession of myself and the Department of Justice will be able to form part of that coronial inquiry and will be available to the coroner. The third area is the disciplinary matter that relates to one of the officers in the Department of Justice. Under the Public Sector Management Act there are set processes for that procedure. Those processes were initiated, as I understand it, by the director general of the Department of Justice some weeks ago, and the individual involved has been called upon to respond. That matter has to follow a set course of events, as determined by the Public Sector Management Act. To comment on those matters, or to detail certain events that occurred, would not only jeopardise that inquiry but also could jeopardise any opportunity to take dismissal or other action against the individual concerned.
The SPEAKER: Order, member for Nedlands! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: There are clearly matters that, if brought to light, could well jeopardise the court trial. Further, we are dealing with the death of a young woman. There will need to be a coroner’s inquiry into that death. Ms S.E. Walker: Rubbish! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: It is not rubbish. There will be need to be a coroner’s inquiry. Ms S.E. Walker: Rubbish! The SPEAKER: Order! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: Unfortunately the only person who is talking rubbish is the member for Nedlands. There is a serious issue, yet all the member keeps doing is trying to butt in - Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! There is a limited capacity for a member who asks a question to interject, but that does not give a member permission, after every sentence by the minister, to make her own comments. I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: I was referring to the fact that there will need to be a coronial inquiry into this matter. Naturally any reports that are in the possession of myself and the Department of Justice will be able to form part of that coronial inquiry and will be available to the coroner. The third area is the disciplinary matter that relates to one of the officers in the Department of Justice. Under the Public Sector Management Act there are set processes for that procedure. Those processes were initiated, as I understand it, by the director general of the Department of Justice some weeks ago, and the individual involved has been called upon to respond. That matter has to follow a set course of events, as determined by the Public Sector Management Act. To comment on those matters, or to detail certain events that occurred, would not only jeopardise that inquiry but also could jeopardise any opportunity to take dismissal or other action against the individual concerned.
Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: There are clearly matters that, if brought to light, could well jeopardise the court trial. Further, we are dealing with the death of a young woman. There will need to be a coroner’s inquiry into that death. Ms S.E. Walker: Rubbish! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: It is not rubbish. There will be need to be a coroner’s inquiry. Ms S.E. Walker: Rubbish! The SPEAKER: Order! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: Unfortunately the only person who is talking rubbish is the member for Nedlands. There is a serious issue, yet all the member keeps doing is trying to butt in - Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! There is a limited capacity for a member who asks a question to interject, but that does not give a member permission, after every sentence by the minister, to make her own comments. I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: I was referring to the fact that there will need to be a coronial inquiry into this matter. Naturally any reports that are in the possession of myself and the Department of Justice will be able to form part of that coronial inquiry and will be available to the coroner. The third area is the disciplinary matter that relates to one of the officers in the Department of Justice. Under the Public Sector Management Act there are set processes for that procedure. Those processes were initiated, as I understand it, by the director general of the Department of Justice some weeks ago, and the individual involved has been called upon to respond. That matter has to follow a set course of events, as determined by the Public Sector Management Act. To comment on those matters, or to detail certain events that occurred, would not only jeopardise that inquiry but also could jeopardise any opportunity to take dismissal or other action against the individual concerned.
Ms S.E. Walker: Rubbish! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: It is not rubbish. There will be need to be a coroner’s inquiry. Ms S.E. Walker: Rubbish! The SPEAKER: Order! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: Unfortunately the only person who is talking rubbish is the member for Nedlands. There is a serious issue, yet all the member keeps doing is trying to butt in - Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! There is a limited capacity for a member who asks a question to interject, but that does not give a member permission, after every sentence by the minister, to make her own comments. I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: I was referring to the fact that there will need to be a coronial inquiry into this matter. Naturally any reports that are in the possession of myself and the Department of Justice will be able to form part of that coronial inquiry and will be available to the coroner. The third area is the disciplinary matter that relates to one of the officers in the Department of Justice. Under the Public Sector Management Act there are set processes for that procedure. Those processes were initiated, as I understand it, by the director general of the Department of Justice some weeks ago, and the individual involved has been called upon to respond. That matter has to follow a set course of events, as determined by the Public Sector Management Act. To comment on those matters, or to detail certain events that occurred, would not only jeopardise that inquiry but also could jeopardise any opportunity to take dismissal or other action against the individual concerned.
Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: It is not rubbish. There will be need to be a coroner’s inquiry. Ms S.E. Walker: Rubbish! The SPEAKER: Order! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: Unfortunately the only person who is talking rubbish is the member for Nedlands. There is a serious issue, yet all the member keeps doing is trying to butt in - Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! There is a limited capacity for a member who asks a question to interject, but that does not give a member permission, after every sentence by the minister, to make her own comments. I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: I was referring to the fact that there will need to be a coronial inquiry into this matter. Naturally any reports that are in the possession of myself and the Department of Justice will be able to form part of that coronial inquiry and will be available to the coroner. The third area is the disciplinary matter that relates to one of the officers in the Department of Justice. Under the Public Sector Management Act there are set processes for that procedure. Those processes were initiated, as I understand it, by the director general of the Department of Justice some weeks ago, and the individual involved has been called upon to respond. That matter has to follow a set course of events, as determined by the Public Sector Management Act. To comment on those matters, or to detail certain events that occurred, would not only jeopardise that inquiry but also could jeopardise any opportunity to take dismissal or other action against the individual concerned.
Ms S.E. Walker: Rubbish! The SPEAKER: Order! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: Unfortunately the only person who is talking rubbish is the member for Nedlands. There is a serious issue, yet all the member keeps doing is trying to butt in - Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! There is a limited capacity for a member who asks a question to interject, but that does not give a member permission, after every sentence by the minister, to make her own comments. I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: I was referring to the fact that there will need to be a coronial inquiry into this matter. Naturally any reports that are in the possession of myself and the Department of Justice will be able to form part of that coronial inquiry and will be available to the coroner. The third area is the disciplinary matter that relates to one of the officers in the Department of Justice. Under the Public Sector Management Act there are set processes for that procedure. Those processes were initiated, as I understand it, by the director general of the Department of Justice some weeks ago, and the individual involved has been called upon to respond. That matter has to follow a set course of events, as determined by the Public Sector Management Act. To comment on those matters, or to detail certain events that occurred, would not only jeopardise that inquiry but also could jeopardise any opportunity to take dismissal or other action against the individual concerned.
The SPEAKER: Order! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: Unfortunately the only person who is talking rubbish is the member for Nedlands. There is a serious issue, yet all the member keeps doing is trying to butt in - Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! There is a limited capacity for a member who asks a question to interject, but that does not give a member permission, after every sentence by the minister, to make her own comments. I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: I was referring to the fact that there will need to be a coronial inquiry into this matter. Naturally any reports that are in the possession of myself and the Department of Justice will be able to form part of that coronial inquiry and will be available to the coroner. The third area is the disciplinary matter that relates to one of the officers in the Department of Justice. Under the Public Sector Management Act there are set processes for that procedure. Those processes were initiated, as I understand it, by the director general of the Department of Justice some weeks ago, and the individual involved has been called upon to respond. That matter has to follow a set course of events, as determined by the Public Sector Management Act. To comment on those matters, or to detail certain events that occurred, would not only jeopardise that inquiry but also could jeopardise any opportunity to take dismissal or other action against the individual concerned.
Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: Unfortunately the only person who is talking rubbish is the member for Nedlands. There is a serious issue, yet all the member keeps doing is trying to butt in - Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! There is a limited capacity for a member who asks a question to interject, but that does not give a member permission, after every sentence by the minister, to make her own comments. I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: I was referring to the fact that there will need to be a coronial inquiry into this matter. Naturally any reports that are in the possession of myself and the Department of Justice will be able to form part of that coronial inquiry and will be available to the coroner. The third area is the disciplinary matter that relates to one of the officers in the Department of Justice. Under the Public Sector Management Act there are set processes for that procedure. Those processes were initiated, as I understand it, by the director general of the Department of Justice some weeks ago, and the individual involved has been called upon to respond. That matter has to follow a set course of events, as determined by the Public Sector Management Act. To comment on those matters, or to detail certain events that occurred, would not only jeopardise that inquiry but also could jeopardise any opportunity to take dismissal or other action against the individual concerned.
Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! There is a limited capacity for a member who asks a question to interject, but that does not give a member permission, after every sentence by the minister, to make her own comments. I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: I was referring to the fact that there will need to be a coronial inquiry into this matter. Naturally any reports that are in the possession of myself and the Department of Justice will be able to form part of that coronial inquiry and will be available to the coroner. The third area is the disciplinary matter that relates to one of the officers in the Department of Justice. Under the Public Sector Management Act there are set processes for that procedure. Those processes were initiated, as I understand it, by the director general of the Department of Justice some weeks ago, and the individual involved has been called upon to respond. That matter has to follow a set course of events, as determined by the Public Sector Management Act. To comment on those matters, or to detail certain events that occurred, would not only jeopardise that inquiry but also could jeopardise any opportunity to take dismissal or other action against the individual concerned.
The SPEAKER: Order! There is a limited capacity for a member who asks a question to interject, but that does not give a member permission, after every sentence by the minister, to make her own comments. I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: I was referring to the fact that there will need to be a coronial inquiry into this matter. Naturally any reports that are in the possession of myself and the Department of Justice will be able to form part of that coronial inquiry and will be available to the coroner. The third area is the disciplinary matter that relates to one of the officers in the Department of Justice. Under the Public Sector Management Act there are set processes for that procedure. Those processes were initiated, as I understand it, by the director general of the Department of Justice some weeks ago, and the individual involved has been called upon to respond. That matter has to follow a set course of events, as determined by the Public Sector Management Act. To comment on those matters, or to detail certain events that occurred, would not only jeopardise that inquiry but also could jeopardise any opportunity to take dismissal or other action against the individual concerned.
Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: I was referring to the fact that there will need to be a coronial inquiry into this matter. Naturally any reports that are in the possession of myself and the Department of Justice will be able to form part of that coronial inquiry and will be available to the coroner. The third area is the disciplinary matter that relates to one of the officers in the Department of Justice. Under the Public Sector Management Act there are set processes for that procedure. Those processes were initiated, as I understand it, by the director general of the Department of Justice some weeks ago, and the individual involved has been called upon to respond. That matter has to follow a set course of events, as determined by the Public Sector Management Act. To comment on those matters, or to detail certain events that occurred, would not only jeopardise that inquiry but also could jeopardise any opportunity to take dismissal or other action against the individual concerned.

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