A parliamentary question regarding Transperth's customer satisfaction ranking and its comparison to other Australian train services, followed by the Minister's positive response highlighting Transperth's top ranking and investments in public transport.

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15 June 2011
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Transport

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TRANSPERTH TRAIN SERVICES — CUSTOMER SATISFACTION SURVEY
I refer — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Kingsley, please take a seat. Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Minister for Health, I formally call you to order for the first time today. The member for Kingsley. Ms A.R. MITCHELL : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I refer to the latest independent Canstar Cannex Blue rating on metropolitan train services across Australia. Can the minister inform the house where Transperth is ranked in comparison with train services in other capital cities; and how does this ranking tally with the opposition’s criticism of this government’s action on public transport? Mr T.R. BUSWELL

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I thank the member for Kingsley very much for the question. I was intrigued to discover the organisation Canstar Cannex, a well-regarded consumer survey organisation. This survey was brought to my attention yesterday, I think it was, on morning television, by that guy—is it Kochie? Mr C.C. Porter : He’s very good! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Yes. He is a very accurate commentator on all things that happen in Australia. Kochie was referring to this survey and was talking in glowing terms about the train network in Western Australia. I was even more surprised when I looked at the Melbourne newspaper The Age , as I do on a regular basis, to discover that The Age , in its critique of Victorian trains, pointed out that in this survey, Transperth was given top marks nationwide for a whole range of things, which I will talk about in a second. In fact, the survey said — But for top rail relaxation, fed-up Victorians might consider a move further west. That is probably something Victorians should consider. For the information of the house, Cannex surveyed a range of consumers—2 500—across Australia who have travelled by train in the past 12 months. Cannex looked at a range of things. Cannex said—this is reading from its publication — The people of Perth must love their trains, as Transperth has been awarded Canstar Blue’s Most Satisfied Customers Award for City Trains. Ms J.M. Freeman : So when are we going to get some more? Mr T.R. BUSWELL : We were getting some more. People are having so much fun with these; we will give them a whole lot more, and they can have a whole lot more fun! Mrs M.H. Roberts : It’s a great reflection on the last Labor government, isn’t it! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : That seems to be a distant memory to me! The Cannex publication goes on to say — The results conclusively showed that Perth residents are the most satisfied Australia-wide with their train network, giving Transperth top marks nation-wide in the categories of overall satisfaction, reliability and performance, comfort on train and its timetable. As I said, that is a big tick for Transperth, and a big vote of support for the converts on this side of the house to public transport. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I was distracted yet again today by the member for Forrestfield! Getting back to the survey — Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Share the love! I am here to share the love, Mr Speaker! I can only imagine that the response has been in part buoyed by our investment in the Butler railway line, $240 million; our investment in City Link, $600 million; our $51 million investment in new car parks, which means that people will be able to drive to the train and catch the train; and all the other commitments that we have made. Before I sit down, I thought it would be opportune to reflect on recent opposition announcements in and around public transport. We have really seen two. One has been the commitment by the member for Ellenbrook—or the member for West Swan—to the Ellenbrook rail line. Again, I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition’s commitment, at the next election, to that hard-fought for piece of rail infrastructure, which the member for West Swan has campaigned on so passionately during her time in this house. I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition backing her up on that! That will be the train to somewhere called “nobody”. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Secondly, I noticed last week, much to my shock and disappointment, that the shadow Minister for Transport was complaining about the fact that inspectors were asking people to show them their train ticket when they got off the train; and, if they had not paid for a ticket, they were getting a fare — Mr A.J. Waddell : A fine! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Sorry; a fine. I had a look at an interview that the shadow Minister for Transport had on Radio 6PR with Mr Larry Graham. Larry Graham said — Well there was a story in today’s West about inspectors on Perth trains allegedly being set quotas — That turned out to be false — to catch fare dodgers. This has inflamed Kenny Travers … I would hate to see an inflamed Kenny Travers! I do not even know what sort of condition an inflamed Kenny Travers is! But I do not want one! I do not want an inflamed Kenny Travers! So I am going to try to un-inflame Kenny Travers! The inflamed Kenny Travers raised three issues that I think we need to canvass. Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker, I believe the Minister for Transport knows how to refer to members of the other house. I would ask you to ask him to refer to members in the appropriate way. The SPEAKER : Minister, there is some protocol, and you have the opportunity to refer to the member by his correct title. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Thank you, Mr Speaker. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Hon Ken Travers, who on that day was an inflamed Kenny Travers, according to the transcript that I am reading from, basically said four things that we need to quickly deal with. He insinuated, firstly, that there was a quota; and, secondly, that the revenue flowed through into the coffers of the Public Transport Authority. Firstly, there is no quota. Secondly, as Hon Ken Travers should know, when people get a fine, the revenue flows through to consolidated revenue, not to the PTA. So, myth number one has been busted. Hon Ken Travers went on to insinuate also that the level of inspections has gone up to drive this revenue grab. When we look at the situation historically, as a percentage of total train travel the number of inspections is lower now than it was for many years under Labor in government. So, myth number two has been busted. Hon Ken Travers said also that one of the problems that we have when governments privatise services is that no-one wants to take responsibility. That is myth number three. The fact is that the Labor government would have renewed this contract at least two times, and possibly three, during its term of government. Therefore, Hon Ken Travers is complaining about something that members opposite supported when they were in government. Myth number four—the final myth that led to this horrible condition known as an inflamed Kenny Travers—is that if a person gets off a train and a revenue protection officer comes up to that person and says, “Show us your ticket”, and the ticket is okay, the revenue protection officer is then going to make up another offence. The revenue protection officer is going to say, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your tie is no good”, or, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your shoelaces are undone”. How ridiculous! Hopefully, the dispelling of those four myths will help reduce the inflammation of Hon Ken Travers.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Kingsley, please take a seat. Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Minister for Health, I formally call you to order for the first time today. The member for Kingsley. Ms A.R. MITCHELL : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I refer to the latest independent Canstar Cannex Blue rating on metropolitan train services across Australia. Can the minister inform the house where Transperth is ranked in comparison with train services in other capital cities; and how does this ranking tally with the opposition’s criticism of this government’s action on public transport? Mr T.R. BUSWELL replied: I thank the member for Kingsley very much for the question. I was intrigued to discover the organisation Canstar Cannex, a well-regarded consumer survey organisation. This survey was brought to my attention yesterday, I think it was, on morning television, by that guy—is it Kochie? Mr C.C. Porter : He’s very good! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Yes. He is a very accurate commentator on all things that happen in Australia. Kochie was referring to this survey and was talking in glowing terms about the train network in Western Australia. I was even more surprised when I looked at the Melbourne newspaper The Age , as I do on a regular basis, to discover that The Age , in its critique of Victorian trains, pointed out that in this survey, Transperth was given top marks nationwide for a whole range of things, which I will talk about in a second. In fact, the survey said — But for top rail relaxation, fed-up Victorians might consider a move further west. That is probably something Victorians should consider. For the information of the house, Cannex surveyed a range of consumers—2 500—across Australia who have travelled by train in the past 12 months. Cannex looked at a range of things. Cannex said—this is reading from its publication — The people of Perth must love their trains, as Transperth has been awarded Canstar Blue’s Most Satisfied Customers Award for City Trains. Ms J.M. Freeman : So when are we going to get some more? Mr T.R. BUSWELL : We were getting some more. People are having so much fun with these; we will give them a whole lot more, and they can have a whole lot more fun! Mrs M.H. Roberts : It’s a great reflection on the last Labor government, isn’t it! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : That seems to be a distant memory to me! The Cannex publication goes on to say — The results conclusively showed that Perth residents are the most satisfied Australia-wide with their train network, giving Transperth top marks nation-wide in the categories of overall satisfaction, reliability and performance, comfort on train and its timetable. As I said, that is a big tick for Transperth, and a big vote of support for the converts on this side of the house to public transport. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I was distracted yet again today by the member for Forrestfield! Getting back to the survey — Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Share the love! I am here to share the love, Mr Speaker! I can only imagine that the response has been in part buoyed by our investment in the Butler railway line, $240 million; our investment in City Link, $600 million; our $51 million investment in new car parks, which means that people will be able to drive to the train and catch the train; and all the other commitments that we have made. Before I sit down, I thought it would be opportune to reflect on recent opposition announcements in and around public transport. We have really seen two. One has been the commitment by the member for Ellenbrook—or the member for West Swan—to the Ellenbrook rail line. Again, I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition’s commitment, at the next election, to that hard-fought for piece of rail infrastructure, which the member for West Swan has campaigned on so passionately during her time in this house. I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition backing her up on that! That will be the train to somewhere called “nobody”. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Secondly, I noticed last week, much to my shock and disappointment, that the shadow Minister for Transport was complaining about the fact that inspectors were asking people to show them their train ticket when they got off the train; and, if they had not paid for a ticket, they were getting a fare — Mr A.J. Waddell : A fine! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Sorry; a fine. I had a look at an interview that the shadow Minister for Transport had on Radio 6PR with Mr Larry Graham. Larry Graham said — Well there was a story in today’s West about inspectors on Perth trains allegedly being set quotas — That turned out to be false — to catch fare dodgers. This has inflamed Kenny Travers … I would hate to see an inflamed Kenny Travers! I do not even know what sort of condition an inflamed Kenny Travers is! But I do not want one! I do not want an inflamed Kenny Travers! So I am going to try to un-inflame Kenny Travers! The inflamed Kenny Travers raised three issues that I think we need to canvass. Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker, I believe the Minister for Transport knows how to refer to members of the other house. I would ask you to ask him to refer to members in the appropriate way. The SPEAKER : Minister, there is some protocol, and you have the opportunity to refer to the member by his correct title. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Thank you, Mr Speaker. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Hon Ken Travers, who on that day was an inflamed Kenny Travers, according to the transcript that I am reading from, basically said four things that we need to quickly deal with. He insinuated, firstly, that there was a quota; and, secondly, that the revenue flowed through into the coffers of the Public Transport Authority. Firstly, there is no quota. Secondly, as Hon Ken Travers should know, when people get a fine, the revenue flows through to consolidated revenue, not to the PTA. So, myth number one has been busted. Hon Ken Travers went on to insinuate also that the level of inspections has gone up to drive this revenue grab. When we look at the situation historically, as a percentage of total train travel the number of inspections is lower now than it was for many years under Labor in government. So, myth number two has been busted. Hon Ken Travers said also that one of the problems that we have when governments privatise services is that no-one wants to take responsibility. That is myth number three. The fact is that the Labor government would have renewed this contract at least two times, and possibly three, during its term of government. Therefore, Hon Ken Travers is complaining about something that members opposite supported when they were in government. Myth number four—the final myth that led to this horrible condition known as an inflamed Kenny Travers—is that if a person gets off a train and a revenue protection officer comes up to that person and says, “Show us your ticket”, and the ticket is okay, the revenue protection officer is then going to make up another offence. The revenue protection officer is going to say, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your tie is no good”, or, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your shoelaces are undone”. How ridiculous! Hopefully, the dispelling of those four myths will help reduce the inflammation of Hon Ken Travers.
The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Kingsley, please take a seat. Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Minister for Health, I formally call you to order for the first time today. The member for Kingsley. Ms A.R. MITCHELL : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I refer to the latest independent Canstar Cannex Blue rating on metropolitan train services across Australia. Can the minister inform the house where Transperth is ranked in comparison with train services in other capital cities; and how does this ranking tally with the opposition’s criticism of this government’s action on public transport? Mr T.R. BUSWELL replied: I thank the member for Kingsley very much for the question. I was intrigued to discover the organisation Canstar Cannex, a well-regarded consumer survey organisation. This survey was brought to my attention yesterday, I think it was, on morning television, by that guy—is it Kochie? Mr C.C. Porter : He’s very good! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Yes. He is a very accurate commentator on all things that happen in Australia. Kochie was referring to this survey and was talking in glowing terms about the train network in Western Australia. I was even more surprised when I looked at the Melbourne newspaper The Age , as I do on a regular basis, to discover that The Age , in its critique of Victorian trains, pointed out that in this survey, Transperth was given top marks nationwide for a whole range of things, which I will talk about in a second. In fact, the survey said — But for top rail relaxation, fed-up Victorians might consider a move further west. That is probably something Victorians should consider. For the information of the house, Cannex surveyed a range of consumers—2 500—across Australia who have travelled by train in the past 12 months. Cannex looked at a range of things. Cannex said—this is reading from its publication — The people of Perth must love their trains, as Transperth has been awarded Canstar Blue’s Most Satisfied Customers Award for City Trains. Ms J.M. Freeman : So when are we going to get some more? Mr T.R. BUSWELL : We were getting some more. People are having so much fun with these; we will give them a whole lot more, and they can have a whole lot more fun! Mrs M.H. Roberts : It’s a great reflection on the last Labor government, isn’t it! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : That seems to be a distant memory to me! The Cannex publication goes on to say — The results conclusively showed that Perth residents are the most satisfied Australia-wide with their train network, giving Transperth top marks nation-wide in the categories of overall satisfaction, reliability and performance, comfort on train and its timetable. As I said, that is a big tick for Transperth, and a big vote of support for the converts on this side of the house to public transport. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I was distracted yet again today by the member for Forrestfield! Getting back to the survey — Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Share the love! I am here to share the love, Mr Speaker! I can only imagine that the response has been in part buoyed by our investment in the Butler railway line, $240 million; our investment in City Link, $600 million; our $51 million investment in new car parks, which means that people will be able to drive to the train and catch the train; and all the other commitments that we have made. Before I sit down, I thought it would be opportune to reflect on recent opposition announcements in and around public transport. We have really seen two. One has been the commitment by the member for Ellenbrook—or the member for West Swan—to the Ellenbrook rail line. Again, I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition’s commitment, at the next election, to that hard-fought for piece of rail infrastructure, which the member for West Swan has campaigned on so passionately during her time in this house. I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition backing her up on that! That will be the train to somewhere called “nobody”. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Secondly, I noticed last week, much to my shock and disappointment, that the shadow Minister for Transport was complaining about the fact that inspectors were asking people to show them their train ticket when they got off the train; and, if they had not paid for a ticket, they were getting a fare — Mr A.J. Waddell : A fine! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Sorry; a fine. I had a look at an interview that the shadow Minister for Transport had on Radio 6PR with Mr Larry Graham. Larry Graham said — Well there was a story in today’s West about inspectors on Perth trains allegedly being set quotas — That turned out to be false — to catch fare dodgers. This has inflamed Kenny Travers … I would hate to see an inflamed Kenny Travers! I do not even know what sort of condition an inflamed Kenny Travers is! But I do not want one! I do not want an inflamed Kenny Travers! So I am going to try to un-inflame Kenny Travers! The inflamed Kenny Travers raised three issues that I think we need to canvass. Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker, I believe the Minister for Transport knows how to refer to members of the other house. I would ask you to ask him to refer to members in the appropriate way. The SPEAKER : Minister, there is some protocol, and you have the opportunity to refer to the member by his correct title. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Thank you, Mr Speaker. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Hon Ken Travers, who on that day was an inflamed Kenny Travers, according to the transcript that I am reading from, basically said four things that we need to quickly deal with. He insinuated, firstly, that there was a quota; and, secondly, that the revenue flowed through into the coffers of the Public Transport Authority. Firstly, there is no quota. Secondly, as Hon Ken Travers should know, when people get a fine, the revenue flows through to consolidated revenue, not to the PTA. So, myth number one has been busted. Hon Ken Travers went on to insinuate also that the level of inspections has gone up to drive this revenue grab. When we look at the situation historically, as a percentage of total train travel the number of inspections is lower now than it was for many years under Labor in government. So, myth number two has been busted. Hon Ken Travers said also that one of the problems that we have when governments privatise services is that no-one wants to take responsibility. That is myth number three. The fact is that the Labor government would have renewed this contract at least two times, and possibly three, during its term of government. Therefore, Hon Ken Travers is complaining about something that members opposite supported when they were in government. Myth number four—the final myth that led to this horrible condition known as an inflamed Kenny Travers—is that if a person gets off a train and a revenue protection officer comes up to that person and says, “Show us your ticket”, and the ticket is okay, the revenue protection officer is then going to make up another offence. The revenue protection officer is going to say, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your tie is no good”, or, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your shoelaces are undone”. How ridiculous! Hopefully, the dispelling of those four myths will help reduce the inflammation of Hon Ken Travers.
Ms A.R. MITCHELL : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I refer to the latest independent Canstar Cannex Blue rating on metropolitan train services across Australia. Can the minister inform the house where Transperth is ranked in comparison with train services in other capital cities; and how does this ranking tally with the opposition’s criticism of this government’s action on public transport? Mr T.R. BUSWELL replied: I thank the member for Kingsley very much for the question. I was intrigued to discover the organisation Canstar Cannex, a well-regarded consumer survey organisation. This survey was brought to my attention yesterday, I think it was, on morning television, by that guy—is it Kochie? Mr C.C. Porter : He’s very good! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Yes. He is a very accurate commentator on all things that happen in Australia. Kochie was referring to this survey and was talking in glowing terms about the train network in Western Australia. I was even more surprised when I looked at the Melbourne newspaper The Age , as I do on a regular basis, to discover that The Age , in its critique of Victorian trains, pointed out that in this survey, Transperth was given top marks nationwide for a whole range of things, which I will talk about in a second. In fact, the survey said — But for top rail relaxation, fed-up Victorians might consider a move further west. That is probably something Victorians should consider. For the information of the house, Cannex surveyed a range of consumers—2 500—across Australia who have travelled by train in the past 12 months. Cannex looked at a range of things. Cannex said—this is reading from its publication — The people of Perth must love their trains, as Transperth has been awarded Canstar Blue’s Most Satisfied Customers Award for City Trains. Ms J.M. Freeman : So when are we going to get some more? Mr T.R. BUSWELL : We were getting some more. People are having so much fun with these; we will give them a whole lot more, and they can have a whole lot more fun! Mrs M.H. Roberts : It’s a great reflection on the last Labor government, isn’t it! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : That seems to be a distant memory to me! The Cannex publication goes on to say — The results conclusively showed that Perth residents are the most satisfied Australia-wide with their train network, giving Transperth top marks nation-wide in the categories of overall satisfaction, reliability and performance, comfort on train and its timetable. As I said, that is a big tick for Transperth, and a big vote of support for the converts on this side of the house to public transport. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I was distracted yet again today by the member for Forrestfield! Getting back to the survey — Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Share the love! I am here to share the love, Mr Speaker! I can only imagine that the response has been in part buoyed by our investment in the Butler railway line, $240 million; our investment in City Link, $600 million; our $51 million investment in new car parks, which means that people will be able to drive to the train and catch the train; and all the other commitments that we have made. Before I sit down, I thought it would be opportune to reflect on recent opposition announcements in and around public transport. We have really seen two. One has been the commitment by the member for Ellenbrook—or the member for West Swan—to the Ellenbrook rail line. Again, I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition’s commitment, at the next election, to that hard-fought for piece of rail infrastructure, which the member for West Swan has campaigned on so passionately during her time in this house. I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition backing her up on that! That will be the train to somewhere called “nobody”. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Secondly, I noticed last week, much to my shock and disappointment, that the shadow Minister for Transport was complaining about the fact that inspectors were asking people to show them their train ticket when they got off the train; and, if they had not paid for a ticket, they were getting a fare — Mr A.J. Waddell : A fine! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Sorry; a fine. I had a look at an interview that the shadow Minister for Transport had on Radio 6PR with Mr Larry Graham. Larry Graham said — Well there was a story in today’s West about inspectors on Perth trains allegedly being set quotas — That turned out to be false — to catch fare dodgers. This has inflamed Kenny Travers … I would hate to see an inflamed Kenny Travers! I do not even know what sort of condition an inflamed Kenny Travers is! But I do not want one! I do not want an inflamed Kenny Travers! So I am going to try to un-inflame Kenny Travers! The inflamed Kenny Travers raised three issues that I think we need to canvass. Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker, I believe the Minister for Transport knows how to refer to members of the other house. I would ask you to ask him to refer to members in the appropriate way. The SPEAKER : Minister, there is some protocol, and you have the opportunity to refer to the member by his correct title. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Thank you, Mr Speaker. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Hon Ken Travers, who on that day was an inflamed Kenny Travers, according to the transcript that I am reading from, basically said four things that we need to quickly deal with. He insinuated, firstly, that there was a quota; and, secondly, that the revenue flowed through into the coffers of the Public Transport Authority. Firstly, there is no quota. Secondly, as Hon Ken Travers should know, when people get a fine, the revenue flows through to consolidated revenue, not to the PTA. So, myth number one has been busted. Hon Ken Travers went on to insinuate also that the level of inspections has gone up to drive this revenue grab. When we look at the situation historically, as a percentage of total train travel the number of inspections is lower now than it was for many years under Labor in government. So, myth number two has been busted. Hon Ken Travers said also that one of the problems that we have when governments privatise services is that no-one wants to take responsibility. That is myth number three. The fact is that the Labor government would have renewed this contract at least two times, and possibly three, during its term of government. Therefore, Hon Ken Travers is complaining about something that members opposite supported when they were in government. Myth number four—the final myth that led to this horrible condition known as an inflamed Kenny Travers—is that if a person gets off a train and a revenue protection officer comes up to that person and says, “Show us your ticket”, and the ticket is okay, the revenue protection officer is then going to make up another offence. The revenue protection officer is going to say, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your tie is no good”, or, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your shoelaces are undone”. How ridiculous! Hopefully, the dispelling of those four myths will help reduce the inflammation of Hon Ken Travers.
I refer to the latest independent Canstar Cannex Blue rating on metropolitan train services across Australia. Can the minister inform the house where Transperth is ranked in comparison with train services in other capital cities; and how does this ranking tally with the opposition’s criticism of this government’s action on public transport? Mr T.R. BUSWELL replied: I thank the member for Kingsley very much for the question. I was intrigued to discover the organisation Canstar Cannex, a well-regarded consumer survey organisation. This survey was brought to my attention yesterday, I think it was, on morning television, by that guy—is it Kochie? Mr C.C. Porter : He’s very good! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Yes. He is a very accurate commentator on all things that happen in Australia. Kochie was referring to this survey and was talking in glowing terms about the train network in Western Australia. I was even more surprised when I looked at the Melbourne newspaper The Age , as I do on a regular basis, to discover that The Age , in its critique of Victorian trains, pointed out that in this survey, Transperth was given top marks nationwide for a whole range of things, which I will talk about in a second. In fact, the survey said — But for top rail relaxation, fed-up Victorians might consider a move further west. That is probably something Victorians should consider. For the information of the house, Cannex surveyed a range of consumers—2 500—across Australia who have travelled by train in the past 12 months. Cannex looked at a range of things. Cannex said—this is reading from its publication — The people of Perth must love their trains, as Transperth has been awarded Canstar Blue’s Most Satisfied Customers Award for City Trains. Ms J.M. Freeman : So when are we going to get some more? Mr T.R. BUSWELL : We were getting some more. People are having so much fun with these; we will give them a whole lot more, and they can have a whole lot more fun! Mrs M.H. Roberts : It’s a great reflection on the last Labor government, isn’t it! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : That seems to be a distant memory to me! The Cannex publication goes on to say — The results conclusively showed that Perth residents are the most satisfied Australia-wide with their train network, giving Transperth top marks nation-wide in the categories of overall satisfaction, reliability and performance, comfort on train and its timetable. As I said, that is a big tick for Transperth, and a big vote of support for the converts on this side of the house to public transport. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I was distracted yet again today by the member for Forrestfield! Getting back to the survey — Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Share the love! I am here to share the love, Mr Speaker! I can only imagine that the response has been in part buoyed by our investment in the Butler railway line, $240 million; our investment in City Link, $600 million; our $51 million investment in new car parks, which means that people will be able to drive to the train and catch the train; and all the other commitments that we have made. Before I sit down, I thought it would be opportune to reflect on recent opposition announcements in and around public transport. We have really seen two. One has been the commitment by the member for Ellenbrook—or the member for West Swan—to the Ellenbrook rail line. Again, I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition’s commitment, at the next election, to that hard-fought for piece of rail infrastructure, which the member for West Swan has campaigned on so passionately during her time in this house. I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition backing her up on that! That will be the train to somewhere called “nobody”. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Secondly, I noticed last week, much to my shock and disappointment, that the shadow Minister for Transport was complaining about the fact that inspectors were asking people to show them their train ticket when they got off the train; and, if they had not paid for a ticket, they were getting a fare — Mr A.J. Waddell : A fine! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Sorry; a fine. I had a look at an interview that the shadow Minister for Transport had on Radio 6PR with Mr Larry Graham. Larry Graham said — Well there was a story in today’s West about inspectors on Perth trains allegedly being set quotas — That turned out to be false — to catch fare dodgers. This has inflamed Kenny Travers … I would hate to see an inflamed Kenny Travers! I do not even know what sort of condition an inflamed Kenny Travers is! But I do not want one! I do not want an inflamed Kenny Travers! So I am going to try to un-inflame Kenny Travers! The inflamed Kenny Travers raised three issues that I think we need to canvass. Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker, I believe the Minister for Transport knows how to refer to members of the other house. I would ask you to ask him to refer to members in the appropriate way. The SPEAKER : Minister, there is some protocol, and you have the opportunity to refer to the member by his correct title. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Thank you, Mr Speaker. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Hon Ken Travers, who on that day was an inflamed Kenny Travers, according to the transcript that I am reading from, basically said four things that we need to quickly deal with. He insinuated, firstly, that there was a quota; and, secondly, that the revenue flowed through into the coffers of the Public Transport Authority. Firstly, there is no quota. Secondly, as Hon Ken Travers should know, when people get a fine, the revenue flows through to consolidated revenue, not to the PTA. So, myth number one has been busted. Hon Ken Travers went on to insinuate also that the level of inspections has gone up to drive this revenue grab. When we look at the situation historically, as a percentage of total train travel the number of inspections is lower now than it was for many years under Labor in government. So, myth number two has been busted. Hon Ken Travers said also that one of the problems that we have when governments privatise services is that no-one wants to take responsibility. That is myth number three. The fact is that the Labor government would have renewed this contract at least two times, and possibly three, during its term of government. Therefore, Hon Ken Travers is complaining about something that members opposite supported when they were in government. Myth number four—the final myth that led to this horrible condition known as an inflamed Kenny Travers—is that if a person gets off a train and a revenue protection officer comes up to that person and says, “Show us your ticket”, and the ticket is okay, the revenue protection officer is then going to make up another offence. The revenue protection officer is going to say, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your tie is no good”, or, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your shoelaces are undone”. How ridiculous! Hopefully, the dispelling of those four myths will help reduce the inflammation of Hon Ken Travers.
Mr T.R. BUSWELL replied: I thank the member for Kingsley very much for the question. I was intrigued to discover the organisation Canstar Cannex, a well-regarded consumer survey organisation. This survey was brought to my attention yesterday, I think it was, on morning television, by that guy—is it Kochie? Mr C.C. Porter : He’s very good! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Yes. He is a very accurate commentator on all things that happen in Australia. Kochie was referring to this survey and was talking in glowing terms about the train network in Western Australia. I was even more surprised when I looked at the Melbourne newspaper The Age , as I do on a regular basis, to discover that The Age , in its critique of Victorian trains, pointed out that in this survey, Transperth was given top marks nationwide for a whole range of things, which I will talk about in a second. In fact, the survey said — But for top rail relaxation, fed-up Victorians might consider a move further west. That is probably something Victorians should consider. For the information of the house, Cannex surveyed a range of consumers—2 500—across Australia who have travelled by train in the past 12 months. Cannex looked at a range of things. Cannex said—this is reading from its publication — The people of Perth must love their trains, as Transperth has been awarded Canstar Blue’s Most Satisfied Customers Award for City Trains. Ms J.M. Freeman : So when are we going to get some more? Mr T.R. BUSWELL : We were getting some more. People are having so much fun with these; we will give them a whole lot more, and they can have a whole lot more fun! Mrs M.H. Roberts : It’s a great reflection on the last Labor government, isn’t it! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : That seems to be a distant memory to me! The Cannex publication goes on to say — The results conclusively showed that Perth residents are the most satisfied Australia-wide with their train network, giving Transperth top marks nation-wide in the categories of overall satisfaction, reliability and performance, comfort on train and its timetable. As I said, that is a big tick for Transperth, and a big vote of support for the converts on this side of the house to public transport. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I was distracted yet again today by the member for Forrestfield! Getting back to the survey — Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Share the love! I am here to share the love, Mr Speaker! I can only imagine that the response has been in part buoyed by our investment in the Butler railway line, $240 million; our investment in City Link, $600 million; our $51 million investment in new car parks, which means that people will be able to drive to the train and catch the train; and all the other commitments that we have made. Before I sit down, I thought it would be opportune to reflect on recent opposition announcements in and around public transport. We have really seen two. One has been the commitment by the member for Ellenbrook—or the member for West Swan—to the Ellenbrook rail line. Again, I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition’s commitment, at the next election, to that hard-fought for piece of rail infrastructure, which the member for West Swan has campaigned on so passionately during her time in this house. I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition backing her up on that! That will be the train to somewhere called “nobody”. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Secondly, I noticed last week, much to my shock and disappointment, that the shadow Minister for Transport was complaining about the fact that inspectors were asking people to show them their train ticket when they got off the train; and, if they had not paid for a ticket, they were getting a fare — Mr A.J. Waddell : A fine! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Sorry; a fine. I had a look at an interview that the shadow Minister for Transport had on Radio 6PR with Mr Larry Graham. Larry Graham said — Well there was a story in today’s West about inspectors on Perth trains allegedly being set quotas — That turned out to be false — to catch fare dodgers. This has inflamed Kenny Travers … I would hate to see an inflamed Kenny Travers! I do not even know what sort of condition an inflamed Kenny Travers is! But I do not want one! I do not want an inflamed Kenny Travers! So I am going to try to un-inflame Kenny Travers! The inflamed Kenny Travers raised three issues that I think we need to canvass. Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker, I believe the Minister for Transport knows how to refer to members of the other house. I would ask you to ask him to refer to members in the appropriate way. The SPEAKER : Minister, there is some protocol, and you have the opportunity to refer to the member by his correct title. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Thank you, Mr Speaker. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Hon Ken Travers, who on that day was an inflamed Kenny Travers, according to the transcript that I am reading from, basically said four things that we need to quickly deal with. He insinuated, firstly, that there was a quota; and, secondly, that the revenue flowed through into the coffers of the Public Transport Authority. Firstly, there is no quota. Secondly, as Hon Ken Travers should know, when people get a fine, the revenue flows through to consolidated revenue, not to the PTA. So, myth number one has been busted. Hon Ken Travers went on to insinuate also that the level of inspections has gone up to drive this revenue grab. When we look at the situation historically, as a percentage of total train travel the number of inspections is lower now than it was for many years under Labor in government. So, myth number two has been busted. Hon Ken Travers said also that one of the problems that we have when governments privatise services is that no-one wants to take responsibility. That is myth number three. The fact is that the Labor government would have renewed this contract at least two times, and possibly three, during its term of government. Therefore, Hon Ken Travers is complaining about something that members opposite supported when they were in government. Myth number four—the final myth that led to this horrible condition known as an inflamed Kenny Travers—is that if a person gets off a train and a revenue protection officer comes up to that person and says, “Show us your ticket”, and the ticket is okay, the revenue protection officer is then going to make up another offence. The revenue protection officer is going to say, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your tie is no good”, or, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your shoelaces are undone”. How ridiculous! Hopefully, the dispelling of those four myths will help reduce the inflammation of Hon Ken Travers.
I thank the member for Kingsley very much for the question. I was intrigued to discover the organisation Canstar Cannex, a well-regarded consumer survey organisation. This survey was brought to my attention yesterday, I think it was, on morning television, by that guy—is it Kochie? Mr C.C. Porter : He’s very good! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Yes. He is a very accurate commentator on all things that happen in Australia. Kochie was referring to this survey and was talking in glowing terms about the train network in Western Australia. I was even more surprised when I looked at the Melbourne newspaper The Age , as I do on a regular basis, to discover that The Age , in its critique of Victorian trains, pointed out that in this survey, Transperth was given top marks nationwide for a whole range of things, which I will talk about in a second. In fact, the survey said — But for top rail relaxation, fed-up Victorians might consider a move further west. That is probably something Victorians should consider. For the information of the house, Cannex surveyed a range of consumers—2 500—across Australia who have travelled by train in the past 12 months. Cannex looked at a range of things. Cannex said—this is reading from its publication — The people of Perth must love their trains, as Transperth has been awarded Canstar Blue’s Most Satisfied Customers Award for City Trains. Ms J.M. Freeman : So when are we going to get some more? Mr T.R. BUSWELL : We were getting some more. People are having so much fun with these; we will give them a whole lot more, and they can have a whole lot more fun! Mrs M.H. Roberts : It’s a great reflection on the last Labor government, isn’t it! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : That seems to be a distant memory to me! The Cannex publication goes on to say — The results conclusively showed that Perth residents are the most satisfied Australia-wide with their train network, giving Transperth top marks nation-wide in the categories of overall satisfaction, reliability and performance, comfort on train and its timetable. As I said, that is a big tick for Transperth, and a big vote of support for the converts on this side of the house to public transport. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I was distracted yet again today by the member for Forrestfield! Getting back to the survey — Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Share the love! I am here to share the love, Mr Speaker! I can only imagine that the response has been in part buoyed by our investment in the Butler railway line, $240 million; our investment in City Link, $600 million; our $51 million investment in new car parks, which means that people will be able to drive to the train and catch the train; and all the other commitments that we have made. Before I sit down, I thought it would be opportune to reflect on recent opposition announcements in and around public transport. We have really seen two. One has been the commitment by the member for Ellenbrook—or the member for West Swan—to the Ellenbrook rail line. Again, I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition’s commitment, at the next election, to that hard-fought for piece of rail infrastructure, which the member for West Swan has campaigned on so passionately during her time in this house. I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition backing her up on that! That will be the train to somewhere called “nobody”. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Secondly, I noticed last week, much to my shock and disappointment, that the shadow Minister for Transport was complaining about the fact that inspectors were asking people to show them their train ticket when they got off the train; and, if they had not paid for a ticket, they were getting a fare — Mr A.J. Waddell : A fine! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Sorry; a fine. I had a look at an interview that the shadow Minister for Transport had on Radio 6PR with Mr Larry Graham. Larry Graham said — Well there was a story in today’s West about inspectors on Perth trains allegedly being set quotas — That turned out to be false — to catch fare dodgers. This has inflamed Kenny Travers … I would hate to see an inflamed Kenny Travers! I do not even know what sort of condition an inflamed Kenny Travers is! But I do not want one! I do not want an inflamed Kenny Travers! So I am going to try to un-inflame Kenny Travers! The inflamed Kenny Travers raised three issues that I think we need to canvass. Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker, I believe the Minister for Transport knows how to refer to members of the other house. I would ask you to ask him to refer to members in the appropriate way. The SPEAKER : Minister, there is some protocol, and you have the opportunity to refer to the member by his correct title. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Thank you, Mr Speaker. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Hon Ken Travers, who on that day was an inflamed Kenny Travers, according to the transcript that I am reading from, basically said four things that we need to quickly deal with. He insinuated, firstly, that there was a quota; and, secondly, that the revenue flowed through into the coffers of the Public Transport Authority. Firstly, there is no quota. Secondly, as Hon Ken Travers should know, when people get a fine, the revenue flows through to consolidated revenue, not to the PTA. So, myth number one has been busted. Hon Ken Travers went on to insinuate also that the level of inspections has gone up to drive this revenue grab. When we look at the situation historically, as a percentage of total train travel the number of inspections is lower now than it was for many years under Labor in government. So, myth number two has been busted. Hon Ken Travers said also that one of the problems that we have when governments privatise services is that no-one wants to take responsibility. That is myth number three. The fact is that the Labor government would have renewed this contract at least two times, and possibly three, during its term of government. Therefore, Hon Ken Travers is complaining about something that members opposite supported when they were in government. Myth number four—the final myth that led to this horrible condition known as an inflamed Kenny Travers—is that if a person gets off a train and a revenue protection officer comes up to that person and says, “Show us your ticket”, and the ticket is okay, the revenue protection officer is then going to make up another offence. The revenue protection officer is going to say, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your tie is no good”, or, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your shoelaces are undone”. How ridiculous! Hopefully, the dispelling of those four myths will help reduce the inflammation of Hon Ken Travers.
Mr C.C. Porter : He’s very good! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Yes. He is a very accurate commentator on all things that happen in Australia. Kochie was referring to this survey and was talking in glowing terms about the train network in Western Australia. I was even more surprised when I looked at the Melbourne newspaper The Age , as I do on a regular basis, to discover that The Age , in its critique of Victorian trains, pointed out that in this survey, Transperth was given top marks nationwide for a whole range of things, which I will talk about in a second. In fact, the survey said — But for top rail relaxation, fed-up Victorians might consider a move further west. That is probably something Victorians should consider. For the information of the house, Cannex surveyed a range of consumers—2 500—across Australia who have travelled by train in the past 12 months. Cannex looked at a range of things. Cannex said—this is reading from its publication — The people of Perth must love their trains, as Transperth has been awarded Canstar Blue’s Most Satisfied Customers Award for City Trains. Ms J.M. Freeman : So when are we going to get some more? Mr T.R. BUSWELL : We were getting some more. People are having so much fun with these; we will give them a whole lot more, and they can have a whole lot more fun! Mrs M.H. Roberts : It’s a great reflection on the last Labor government, isn’t it! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : That seems to be a distant memory to me! The Cannex publication goes on to say — The results conclusively showed that Perth residents are the most satisfied Australia-wide with their train network, giving Transperth top marks nation-wide in the categories of overall satisfaction, reliability and performance, comfort on train and its timetable. As I said, that is a big tick for Transperth, and a big vote of support for the converts on this side of the house to public transport. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I was distracted yet again today by the member for Forrestfield! Getting back to the survey — Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Share the love! I am here to share the love, Mr Speaker! I can only imagine that the response has been in part buoyed by our investment in the Butler railway line, $240 million; our investment in City Link, $600 million; our $51 million investment in new car parks, which means that people will be able to drive to the train and catch the train; and all the other commitments that we have made. Before I sit down, I thought it would be opportune to reflect on recent opposition announcements in and around public transport. We have really seen two. One has been the commitment by the member for Ellenbrook—or the member for West Swan—to the Ellenbrook rail line. Again, I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition’s commitment, at the next election, to that hard-fought for piece of rail infrastructure, which the member for West Swan has campaigned on so passionately during her time in this house. I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition backing her up on that! That will be the train to somewhere called “nobody”. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Secondly, I noticed last week, much to my shock and disappointment, that the shadow Minister for Transport was complaining about the fact that inspectors were asking people to show them their train ticket when they got off the train; and, if they had not paid for a ticket, they were getting a fare — Mr A.J. Waddell : A fine! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Sorry; a fine. I had a look at an interview that the shadow Minister for Transport had on Radio 6PR with Mr Larry Graham. Larry Graham said — Well there was a story in today’s West about inspectors on Perth trains allegedly being set quotas — That turned out to be false — to catch fare dodgers. This has inflamed Kenny Travers … I would hate to see an inflamed Kenny Travers! I do not even know what sort of condition an inflamed Kenny Travers is! But I do not want one! I do not want an inflamed Kenny Travers! So I am going to try to un-inflame Kenny Travers! The inflamed Kenny Travers raised three issues that I think we need to canvass. Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker, I believe the Minister for Transport knows how to refer to members of the other house. I would ask you to ask him to refer to members in the appropriate way. The SPEAKER : Minister, there is some protocol, and you have the opportunity to refer to the member by his correct title. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Thank you, Mr Speaker. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Hon Ken Travers, who on that day was an inflamed Kenny Travers, according to the transcript that I am reading from, basically said four things that we need to quickly deal with. He insinuated, firstly, that there was a quota; and, secondly, that the revenue flowed through into the coffers of the Public Transport Authority. Firstly, there is no quota. Secondly, as Hon Ken Travers should know, when people get a fine, the revenue flows through to consolidated revenue, not to the PTA. So, myth number one has been busted. Hon Ken Travers went on to insinuate also that the level of inspections has gone up to drive this revenue grab. When we look at the situation historically, as a percentage of total train travel the number of inspections is lower now than it was for many years under Labor in government. So, myth number two has been busted. Hon Ken Travers said also that one of the problems that we have when governments privatise services is that no-one wants to take responsibility. That is myth number three. The fact is that the Labor government would have renewed this contract at least two times, and possibly three, during its term of government. Therefore, Hon Ken Travers is complaining about something that members opposite supported when they were in government. Myth number four—the final myth that led to this horrible condition known as an inflamed Kenny Travers—is that if a person gets off a train and a revenue protection officer comes up to that person and says, “Show us your ticket”, and the ticket is okay, the revenue protection officer is then going to make up another offence. The revenue protection officer is going to say, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your tie is no good”, or, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your shoelaces are undone”. How ridiculous! Hopefully, the dispelling of those four myths will help reduce the inflammation of Hon Ken Travers.
Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Yes. He is a very accurate commentator on all things that happen in Australia. Kochie was referring to this survey and was talking in glowing terms about the train network in Western Australia. I was even more surprised when I looked at the Melbourne newspaper The Age , as I do on a regular basis, to discover that The Age , in its critique of Victorian trains, pointed out that in this survey, Transperth was given top marks nationwide for a whole range of things, which I will talk about in a second. In fact, the survey said — But for top rail relaxation, fed-up Victorians might consider a move further west. That is probably something Victorians should consider. For the information of the house, Cannex surveyed a range of consumers—2 500—across Australia who have travelled by train in the past 12 months. Cannex looked at a range of things. Cannex said—this is reading from its publication — The people of Perth must love their trains, as Transperth has been awarded Canstar Blue’s Most Satisfied Customers Award for City Trains. Ms J.M. Freeman : So when are we going to get some more? Mr T.R. BUSWELL : We were getting some more. People are having so much fun with these; we will give them a whole lot more, and they can have a whole lot more fun! Mrs M.H. Roberts : It’s a great reflection on the last Labor government, isn’t it! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : That seems to be a distant memory to me! The Cannex publication goes on to say — The results conclusively showed that Perth residents are the most satisfied Australia-wide with their train network, giving Transperth top marks nation-wide in the categories of overall satisfaction, reliability and performance, comfort on train and its timetable. As I said, that is a big tick for Transperth, and a big vote of support for the converts on this side of the house to public transport. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I was distracted yet again today by the member for Forrestfield! Getting back to the survey — Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Share the love! I am here to share the love, Mr Speaker! I can only imagine that the response has been in part buoyed by our investment in the Butler railway line, $240 million; our investment in City Link, $600 million; our $51 million investment in new car parks, which means that people will be able to drive to the train and catch the train; and all the other commitments that we have made. Before I sit down, I thought it would be opportune to reflect on recent opposition announcements in and around public transport. We have really seen two. One has been the commitment by the member for Ellenbrook—or the member for West Swan—to the Ellenbrook rail line. Again, I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition’s commitment, at the next election, to that hard-fought for piece of rail infrastructure, which the member for West Swan has campaigned on so passionately during her time in this house. I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition backing her up on that! That will be the train to somewhere called “nobody”. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Secondly, I noticed last week, much to my shock and disappointment, that the shadow Minister for Transport was complaining about the fact that inspectors were asking people to show them their train ticket when they got off the train; and, if they had not paid for a ticket, they were getting a fare — Mr A.J. Waddell : A fine! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Sorry; a fine. I had a look at an interview that the shadow Minister for Transport had on Radio 6PR with Mr Larry Graham. Larry Graham said — Well there was a story in today’s West about inspectors on Perth trains allegedly being set quotas — That turned out to be false — to catch fare dodgers. This has inflamed Kenny Travers … I would hate to see an inflamed Kenny Travers! I do not even know what sort of condition an inflamed Kenny Travers is! But I do not want one! I do not want an inflamed Kenny Travers! So I am going to try to un-inflame Kenny Travers! The inflamed Kenny Travers raised three issues that I think we need to canvass. Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker, I believe the Minister for Transport knows how to refer to members of the other house. I would ask you to ask him to refer to members in the appropriate way. The SPEAKER : Minister, there is some protocol, and you have the opportunity to refer to the member by his correct title. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Thank you, Mr Speaker. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Hon Ken Travers, who on that day was an inflamed Kenny Travers, according to the transcript that I am reading from, basically said four things that we need to quickly deal with. He insinuated, firstly, that there was a quota; and, secondly, that the revenue flowed through into the coffers of the Public Transport Authority. Firstly, there is no quota. Secondly, as Hon Ken Travers should know, when people get a fine, the revenue flows through to consolidated revenue, not to the PTA. So, myth number one has been busted. Hon Ken Travers went on to insinuate also that the level of inspections has gone up to drive this revenue grab. When we look at the situation historically, as a percentage of total train travel the number of inspections is lower now than it was for many years under Labor in government. So, myth number two has been busted. Hon Ken Travers said also that one of the problems that we have when governments privatise services is that no-one wants to take responsibility. That is myth number three. The fact is that the Labor government would have renewed this contract at least two times, and possibly three, during its term of government. Therefore, Hon Ken Travers is complaining about something that members opposite supported when they were in government. Myth number four—the final myth that led to this horrible condition known as an inflamed Kenny Travers—is that if a person gets off a train and a revenue protection officer comes up to that person and says, “Show us your ticket”, and the ticket is okay, the revenue protection officer is then going to make up another offence. The revenue protection officer is going to say, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your tie is no good”, or, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your shoelaces are undone”. How ridiculous! Hopefully, the dispelling of those four myths will help reduce the inflammation of Hon Ken Travers.
For the information of the house, Cannex surveyed a range of consumers—2 500—across Australia who have travelled by train in the past 12 months. Cannex looked at a range of things. Cannex said—this is reading from its publication — The people of Perth must love their trains, as Transperth has been awarded Canstar Blue’s Most Satisfied Customers Award for City Trains. Ms J.M. Freeman : So when are we going to get some more? Mr T.R. BUSWELL : We were getting some more. People are having so much fun with these; we will give them a whole lot more, and they can have a whole lot more fun! Mrs M.H. Roberts : It’s a great reflection on the last Labor government, isn’t it! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : That seems to be a distant memory to me! The Cannex publication goes on to say — The results conclusively showed that Perth residents are the most satisfied Australia-wide with their train network, giving Transperth top marks nation-wide in the categories of overall satisfaction, reliability and performance, comfort on train and its timetable. As I said, that is a big tick for Transperth, and a big vote of support for the converts on this side of the house to public transport. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I was distracted yet again today by the member for Forrestfield! Getting back to the survey — Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Share the love! I am here to share the love, Mr Speaker! I can only imagine that the response has been in part buoyed by our investment in the Butler railway line, $240 million; our investment in City Link, $600 million; our $51 million investment in new car parks, which means that people will be able to drive to the train and catch the train; and all the other commitments that we have made. Before I sit down, I thought it would be opportune to reflect on recent opposition announcements in and around public transport. We have really seen two. One has been the commitment by the member for Ellenbrook—or the member for West Swan—to the Ellenbrook rail line. Again, I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition’s commitment, at the next election, to that hard-fought for piece of rail infrastructure, which the member for West Swan has campaigned on so passionately during her time in this house. I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition backing her up on that! That will be the train to somewhere called “nobody”. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Secondly, I noticed last week, much to my shock and disappointment, that the shadow Minister for Transport was complaining about the fact that inspectors were asking people to show them their train ticket when they got off the train; and, if they had not paid for a ticket, they were getting a fare — Mr A.J. Waddell : A fine! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Sorry; a fine. I had a look at an interview that the shadow Minister for Transport had on Radio 6PR with Mr Larry Graham. Larry Graham said — Well there was a story in today’s West about inspectors on Perth trains allegedly being set quotas — That turned out to be false — to catch fare dodgers. This has inflamed Kenny Travers … I would hate to see an inflamed Kenny Travers! I do not even know what sort of condition an inflamed Kenny Travers is! But I do not want one! I do not want an inflamed Kenny Travers! So I am going to try to un-inflame Kenny Travers! The inflamed Kenny Travers raised three issues that I think we need to canvass. Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker, I believe the Minister for Transport knows how to refer to members of the other house. I would ask you to ask him to refer to members in the appropriate way. The SPEAKER : Minister, there is some protocol, and you have the opportunity to refer to the member by his correct title. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Thank you, Mr Speaker. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Hon Ken Travers, who on that day was an inflamed Kenny Travers, according to the transcript that I am reading from, basically said four things that we need to quickly deal with. He insinuated, firstly, that there was a quota; and, secondly, that the revenue flowed through into the coffers of the Public Transport Authority. Firstly, there is no quota. Secondly, as Hon Ken Travers should know, when people get a fine, the revenue flows through to consolidated revenue, not to the PTA. So, myth number one has been busted. Hon Ken Travers went on to insinuate also that the level of inspections has gone up to drive this revenue grab. When we look at the situation historically, as a percentage of total train travel the number of inspections is lower now than it was for many years under Labor in government. So, myth number two has been busted. Hon Ken Travers said also that one of the problems that we have when governments privatise services is that no-one wants to take responsibility. That is myth number three. The fact is that the Labor government would have renewed this contract at least two times, and possibly three, during its term of government. Therefore, Hon Ken Travers is complaining about something that members opposite supported when they were in government. Myth number four—the final myth that led to this horrible condition known as an inflamed Kenny Travers—is that if a person gets off a train and a revenue protection officer comes up to that person and says, “Show us your ticket”, and the ticket is okay, the revenue protection officer is then going to make up another offence. The revenue protection officer is going to say, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your tie is no good”, or, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your shoelaces are undone”. How ridiculous! Hopefully, the dispelling of those four myths will help reduce the inflammation of Hon Ken Travers.
Mr T.R. BUSWELL : We were getting some more. People are having so much fun with these; we will give them a whole lot more, and they can have a whole lot more fun! Mrs M.H. Roberts : It’s a great reflection on the last Labor government, isn’t it! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : That seems to be a distant memory to me! The Cannex publication goes on to say — The results conclusively showed that Perth residents are the most satisfied Australia-wide with their train network, giving Transperth top marks nation-wide in the categories of overall satisfaction, reliability and performance, comfort on train and its timetable. As I said, that is a big tick for Transperth, and a big vote of support for the converts on this side of the house to public transport. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I was distracted yet again today by the member for Forrestfield! Getting back to the survey — Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Share the love! I am here to share the love, Mr Speaker! I can only imagine that the response has been in part buoyed by our investment in the Butler railway line, $240 million; our investment in City Link, $600 million; our $51 million investment in new car parks, which means that people will be able to drive to the train and catch the train; and all the other commitments that we have made. Before I sit down, I thought it would be opportune to reflect on recent opposition announcements in and around public transport. We have really seen two. One has been the commitment by the member for Ellenbrook—or the member for West Swan—to the Ellenbrook rail line. Again, I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition’s commitment, at the next election, to that hard-fought for piece of rail infrastructure, which the member for West Swan has campaigned on so passionately during her time in this house. I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition backing her up on that! That will be the train to somewhere called “nobody”. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Secondly, I noticed last week, much to my shock and disappointment, that the shadow Minister for Transport was complaining about the fact that inspectors were asking people to show them their train ticket when they got off the train; and, if they had not paid for a ticket, they were getting a fare — Mr A.J. Waddell : A fine! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Sorry; a fine. I had a look at an interview that the shadow Minister for Transport had on Radio 6PR with Mr Larry Graham. Larry Graham said — Well there was a story in today’s West about inspectors on Perth trains allegedly being set quotas — That turned out to be false — to catch fare dodgers. This has inflamed Kenny Travers … I would hate to see an inflamed Kenny Travers! I do not even know what sort of condition an inflamed Kenny Travers is! But I do not want one! I do not want an inflamed Kenny Travers! So I am going to try to un-inflame Kenny Travers! The inflamed Kenny Travers raised three issues that I think we need to canvass. Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker, I believe the Minister for Transport knows how to refer to members of the other house. I would ask you to ask him to refer to members in the appropriate way. The SPEAKER : Minister, there is some protocol, and you have the opportunity to refer to the member by his correct title. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Thank you, Mr Speaker. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Hon Ken Travers, who on that day was an inflamed Kenny Travers, according to the transcript that I am reading from, basically said four things that we need to quickly deal with. He insinuated, firstly, that there was a quota; and, secondly, that the revenue flowed through into the coffers of the Public Transport Authority. Firstly, there is no quota. Secondly, as Hon Ken Travers should know, when people get a fine, the revenue flows through to consolidated revenue, not to the PTA. So, myth number one has been busted. Hon Ken Travers went on to insinuate also that the level of inspections has gone up to drive this revenue grab. When we look at the situation historically, as a percentage of total train travel the number of inspections is lower now than it was for many years under Labor in government. So, myth number two has been busted. Hon Ken Travers said also that one of the problems that we have when governments privatise services is that no-one wants to take responsibility. That is myth number three. The fact is that the Labor government would have renewed this contract at least two times, and possibly three, during its term of government. Therefore, Hon Ken Travers is complaining about something that members opposite supported when they were in government. Myth number four—the final myth that led to this horrible condition known as an inflamed Kenny Travers—is that if a person gets off a train and a revenue protection officer comes up to that person and says, “Show us your ticket”, and the ticket is okay, the revenue protection officer is then going to make up another offence. The revenue protection officer is going to say, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your tie is no good”, or, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your shoelaces are undone”. How ridiculous! Hopefully, the dispelling of those four myths will help reduce the inflammation of Hon Ken Travers.
Mrs M.H. Roberts : It’s a great reflection on the last Labor government, isn’t it! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : That seems to be a distant memory to me! The Cannex publication goes on to say — The results conclusively showed that Perth residents are the most satisfied Australia-wide with their train network, giving Transperth top marks nation-wide in the categories of overall satisfaction, reliability and performance, comfort on train and its timetable. As I said, that is a big tick for Transperth, and a big vote of support for the converts on this side of the house to public transport. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I was distracted yet again today by the member for Forrestfield! Getting back to the survey — Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Share the love! I am here to share the love, Mr Speaker! I can only imagine that the response has been in part buoyed by our investment in the Butler railway line, $240 million; our investment in City Link, $600 million; our $51 million investment in new car parks, which means that people will be able to drive to the train and catch the train; and all the other commitments that we have made. Before I sit down, I thought it would be opportune to reflect on recent opposition announcements in and around public transport. We have really seen two. One has been the commitment by the member for Ellenbrook—or the member for West Swan—to the Ellenbrook rail line. Again, I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition’s commitment, at the next election, to that hard-fought for piece of rail infrastructure, which the member for West Swan has campaigned on so passionately during her time in this house. I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition backing her up on that! That will be the train to somewhere called “nobody”. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Secondly, I noticed last week, much to my shock and disappointment, that the shadow Minister for Transport was complaining about the fact that inspectors were asking people to show them their train ticket when they got off the train; and, if they had not paid for a ticket, they were getting a fare — Mr A.J. Waddell : A fine! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Sorry; a fine. I had a look at an interview that the shadow Minister for Transport had on Radio 6PR with Mr Larry Graham. Larry Graham said — Well there was a story in today’s West about inspectors on Perth trains allegedly being set quotas — That turned out to be false — to catch fare dodgers. This has inflamed Kenny Travers … I would hate to see an inflamed Kenny Travers! I do not even know what sort of condition an inflamed Kenny Travers is! But I do not want one! I do not want an inflamed Kenny Travers! So I am going to try to un-inflame Kenny Travers! The inflamed Kenny Travers raised three issues that I think we need to canvass. Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker, I believe the Minister for Transport knows how to refer to members of the other house. I would ask you to ask him to refer to members in the appropriate way. The SPEAKER : Minister, there is some protocol, and you have the opportunity to refer to the member by his correct title. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Thank you, Mr Speaker. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Hon Ken Travers, who on that day was an inflamed Kenny Travers, according to the transcript that I am reading from, basically said four things that we need to quickly deal with. He insinuated, firstly, that there was a quota; and, secondly, that the revenue flowed through into the coffers of the Public Transport Authority. Firstly, there is no quota. Secondly, as Hon Ken Travers should know, when people get a fine, the revenue flows through to consolidated revenue, not to the PTA. So, myth number one has been busted. Hon Ken Travers went on to insinuate also that the level of inspections has gone up to drive this revenue grab. When we look at the situation historically, as a percentage of total train travel the number of inspections is lower now than it was for many years under Labor in government. So, myth number two has been busted. Hon Ken Travers said also that one of the problems that we have when governments privatise services is that no-one wants to take responsibility. That is myth number three. The fact is that the Labor government would have renewed this contract at least two times, and possibly three, during its term of government. Therefore, Hon Ken Travers is complaining about something that members opposite supported when they were in government. Myth number four—the final myth that led to this horrible condition known as an inflamed Kenny Travers—is that if a person gets off a train and a revenue protection officer comes up to that person and says, “Show us your ticket”, and the ticket is okay, the revenue protection officer is then going to make up another offence. The revenue protection officer is going to say, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your tie is no good”, or, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your shoelaces are undone”. How ridiculous! Hopefully, the dispelling of those four myths will help reduce the inflammation of Hon Ken Travers.
Mr T.R. BUSWELL : That seems to be a distant memory to me! The Cannex publication goes on to say — The results conclusively showed that Perth residents are the most satisfied Australia-wide with their train network, giving Transperth top marks nation-wide in the categories of overall satisfaction, reliability and performance, comfort on train and its timetable. As I said, that is a big tick for Transperth, and a big vote of support for the converts on this side of the house to public transport. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I was distracted yet again today by the member for Forrestfield! Getting back to the survey — Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Share the love! I am here to share the love, Mr Speaker! I can only imagine that the response has been in part buoyed by our investment in the Butler railway line, $240 million; our investment in City Link, $600 million; our $51 million investment in new car parks, which means that people will be able to drive to the train and catch the train; and all the other commitments that we have made. Before I sit down, I thought it would be opportune to reflect on recent opposition announcements in and around public transport. We have really seen two. One has been the commitment by the member for Ellenbrook—or the member for West Swan—to the Ellenbrook rail line. Again, I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition’s commitment, at the next election, to that hard-fought for piece of rail infrastructure, which the member for West Swan has campaigned on so passionately during her time in this house. I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition backing her up on that! That will be the train to somewhere called “nobody”. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Secondly, I noticed last week, much to my shock and disappointment, that the shadow Minister for Transport was complaining about the fact that inspectors were asking people to show them their train ticket when they got off the train; and, if they had not paid for a ticket, they were getting a fare — Mr A.J. Waddell : A fine! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Sorry; a fine. I had a look at an interview that the shadow Minister for Transport had on Radio 6PR with Mr Larry Graham. Larry Graham said — Well there was a story in today’s West about inspectors on Perth trains allegedly being set quotas — That turned out to be false — to catch fare dodgers. This has inflamed Kenny Travers … I would hate to see an inflamed Kenny Travers! I do not even know what sort of condition an inflamed Kenny Travers is! But I do not want one! I do not want an inflamed Kenny Travers! So I am going to try to un-inflame Kenny Travers! The inflamed Kenny Travers raised three issues that I think we need to canvass. Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker, I believe the Minister for Transport knows how to refer to members of the other house. I would ask you to ask him to refer to members in the appropriate way. The SPEAKER : Minister, there is some protocol, and you have the opportunity to refer to the member by his correct title. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Thank you, Mr Speaker. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Hon Ken Travers, who on that day was an inflamed Kenny Travers, according to the transcript that I am reading from, basically said four things that we need to quickly deal with. He insinuated, firstly, that there was a quota; and, secondly, that the revenue flowed through into the coffers of the Public Transport Authority. Firstly, there is no quota. Secondly, as Hon Ken Travers should know, when people get a fine, the revenue flows through to consolidated revenue, not to the PTA. So, myth number one has been busted. Hon Ken Travers went on to insinuate also that the level of inspections has gone up to drive this revenue grab. When we look at the situation historically, as a percentage of total train travel the number of inspections is lower now than it was for many years under Labor in government. So, myth number two has been busted. Hon Ken Travers said also that one of the problems that we have when governments privatise services is that no-one wants to take responsibility. That is myth number three. The fact is that the Labor government would have renewed this contract at least two times, and possibly three, during its term of government. Therefore, Hon Ken Travers is complaining about something that members opposite supported when they were in government. Myth number four—the final myth that led to this horrible condition known as an inflamed Kenny Travers—is that if a person gets off a train and a revenue protection officer comes up to that person and says, “Show us your ticket”, and the ticket is okay, the revenue protection officer is then going to make up another offence. The revenue protection officer is going to say, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your tie is no good”, or, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your shoelaces are undone”. How ridiculous! Hopefully, the dispelling of those four myths will help reduce the inflammation of Hon Ken Travers.
The Cannex publication goes on to say — The results conclusively showed that Perth residents are the most satisfied Australia-wide with their train network, giving Transperth top marks nation-wide in the categories of overall satisfaction, reliability and performance, comfort on train and its timetable. As I said, that is a big tick for Transperth, and a big vote of support for the converts on this side of the house to public transport. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I was distracted yet again today by the member for Forrestfield! Getting back to the survey — Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Share the love! I am here to share the love, Mr Speaker! I can only imagine that the response has been in part buoyed by our investment in the Butler railway line, $240 million; our investment in City Link, $600 million; our $51 million investment in new car parks, which means that people will be able to drive to the train and catch the train; and all the other commitments that we have made. Before I sit down, I thought it would be opportune to reflect on recent opposition announcements in and around public transport. We have really seen two. One has been the commitment by the member for Ellenbrook—or the member for West Swan—to the Ellenbrook rail line. Again, I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition’s commitment, at the next election, to that hard-fought for piece of rail infrastructure, which the member for West Swan has campaigned on so passionately during her time in this house. I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition backing her up on that! That will be the train to somewhere called “nobody”. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Secondly, I noticed last week, much to my shock and disappointment, that the shadow Minister for Transport was complaining about the fact that inspectors were asking people to show them their train ticket when they got off the train; and, if they had not paid for a ticket, they were getting a fare — Mr A.J. Waddell : A fine! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Sorry; a fine. I had a look at an interview that the shadow Minister for Transport had on Radio 6PR with Mr Larry Graham. Larry Graham said — Well there was a story in today’s West about inspectors on Perth trains allegedly being set quotas — That turned out to be false — to catch fare dodgers. This has inflamed Kenny Travers … I would hate to see an inflamed Kenny Travers! I do not even know what sort of condition an inflamed Kenny Travers is! But I do not want one! I do not want an inflamed Kenny Travers! So I am going to try to un-inflame Kenny Travers! The inflamed Kenny Travers raised three issues that I think we need to canvass. Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker, I believe the Minister for Transport knows how to refer to members of the other house. I would ask you to ask him to refer to members in the appropriate way. The SPEAKER : Minister, there is some protocol, and you have the opportunity to refer to the member by his correct title. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Thank you, Mr Speaker. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Hon Ken Travers, who on that day was an inflamed Kenny Travers, according to the transcript that I am reading from, basically said four things that we need to quickly deal with. He insinuated, firstly, that there was a quota; and, secondly, that the revenue flowed through into the coffers of the Public Transport Authority. Firstly, there is no quota. Secondly, as Hon Ken Travers should know, when people get a fine, the revenue flows through to consolidated revenue, not to the PTA. So, myth number one has been busted. Hon Ken Travers went on to insinuate also that the level of inspections has gone up to drive this revenue grab. When we look at the situation historically, as a percentage of total train travel the number of inspections is lower now than it was for many years under Labor in government. So, myth number two has been busted. Hon Ken Travers said also that one of the problems that we have when governments privatise services is that no-one wants to take responsibility. That is myth number three. The fact is that the Labor government would have renewed this contract at least two times, and possibly three, during its term of government. Therefore, Hon Ken Travers is complaining about something that members opposite supported when they were in government. Myth number four—the final myth that led to this horrible condition known as an inflamed Kenny Travers—is that if a person gets off a train and a revenue protection officer comes up to that person and says, “Show us your ticket”, and the ticket is okay, the revenue protection officer is then going to make up another offence. The revenue protection officer is going to say, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your tie is no good”, or, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your shoelaces are undone”. How ridiculous! Hopefully, the dispelling of those four myths will help reduce the inflammation of Hon Ken Travers.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I was distracted yet again today by the member for Forrestfield! Getting back to the survey — Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Share the love! I am here to share the love, Mr Speaker! I can only imagine that the response has been in part buoyed by our investment in the Butler railway line, $240 million; our investment in City Link, $600 million; our $51 million investment in new car parks, which means that people will be able to drive to the train and catch the train; and all the other commitments that we have made. Before I sit down, I thought it would be opportune to reflect on recent opposition announcements in and around public transport. We have really seen two. One has been the commitment by the member for Ellenbrook—or the member for West Swan—to the Ellenbrook rail line. Again, I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition’s commitment, at the next election, to that hard-fought for piece of rail infrastructure, which the member for West Swan has campaigned on so passionately during her time in this house. I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition backing her up on that! That will be the train to somewhere called “nobody”. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Secondly, I noticed last week, much to my shock and disappointment, that the shadow Minister for Transport was complaining about the fact that inspectors were asking people to show them their train ticket when they got off the train; and, if they had not paid for a ticket, they were getting a fare — Mr A.J. Waddell : A fine! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Sorry; a fine. I had a look at an interview that the shadow Minister for Transport had on Radio 6PR with Mr Larry Graham. Larry Graham said — Well there was a story in today’s West about inspectors on Perth trains allegedly being set quotas — That turned out to be false — to catch fare dodgers. This has inflamed Kenny Travers … I would hate to see an inflamed Kenny Travers! I do not even know what sort of condition an inflamed Kenny Travers is! But I do not want one! I do not want an inflamed Kenny Travers! So I am going to try to un-inflame Kenny Travers! The inflamed Kenny Travers raised three issues that I think we need to canvass. Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker, I believe the Minister for Transport knows how to refer to members of the other house. I would ask you to ask him to refer to members in the appropriate way. The SPEAKER : Minister, there is some protocol, and you have the opportunity to refer to the member by his correct title. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Thank you, Mr Speaker. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Hon Ken Travers, who on that day was an inflamed Kenny Travers, according to the transcript that I am reading from, basically said four things that we need to quickly deal with. He insinuated, firstly, that there was a quota; and, secondly, that the revenue flowed through into the coffers of the Public Transport Authority. Firstly, there is no quota. Secondly, as Hon Ken Travers should know, when people get a fine, the revenue flows through to consolidated revenue, not to the PTA. So, myth number one has been busted. Hon Ken Travers went on to insinuate also that the level of inspections has gone up to drive this revenue grab. When we look at the situation historically, as a percentage of total train travel the number of inspections is lower now than it was for many years under Labor in government. So, myth number two has been busted. Hon Ken Travers said also that one of the problems that we have when governments privatise services is that no-one wants to take responsibility. That is myth number three. The fact is that the Labor government would have renewed this contract at least two times, and possibly three, during its term of government. Therefore, Hon Ken Travers is complaining about something that members opposite supported when they were in government. Myth number four—the final myth that led to this horrible condition known as an inflamed Kenny Travers—is that if a person gets off a train and a revenue protection officer comes up to that person and says, “Show us your ticket”, and the ticket is okay, the revenue protection officer is then going to make up another offence. The revenue protection officer is going to say, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your tie is no good”, or, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your shoelaces are undone”. How ridiculous! Hopefully, the dispelling of those four myths will help reduce the inflammation of Hon Ken Travers.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I was distracted yet again today by the member for Forrestfield! Getting back to the survey — Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Share the love! I am here to share the love, Mr Speaker! I can only imagine that the response has been in part buoyed by our investment in the Butler railway line, $240 million; our investment in City Link, $600 million; our $51 million investment in new car parks, which means that people will be able to drive to the train and catch the train; and all the other commitments that we have made. Before I sit down, I thought it would be opportune to reflect on recent opposition announcements in and around public transport. We have really seen two. One has been the commitment by the member for Ellenbrook—or the member for West Swan—to the Ellenbrook rail line. Again, I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition’s commitment, at the next election, to that hard-fought for piece of rail infrastructure, which the member for West Swan has campaigned on so passionately during her time in this house. I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition backing her up on that! That will be the train to somewhere called “nobody”. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Secondly, I noticed last week, much to my shock and disappointment, that the shadow Minister for Transport was complaining about the fact that inspectors were asking people to show them their train ticket when they got off the train; and, if they had not paid for a ticket, they were getting a fare — Mr A.J. Waddell : A fine! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Sorry; a fine. I had a look at an interview that the shadow Minister for Transport had on Radio 6PR with Mr Larry Graham. Larry Graham said — Well there was a story in today’s West about inspectors on Perth trains allegedly being set quotas — That turned out to be false — to catch fare dodgers. This has inflamed Kenny Travers … I would hate to see an inflamed Kenny Travers! I do not even know what sort of condition an inflamed Kenny Travers is! But I do not want one! I do not want an inflamed Kenny Travers! So I am going to try to un-inflame Kenny Travers! The inflamed Kenny Travers raised three issues that I think we need to canvass. Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker, I believe the Minister for Transport knows how to refer to members of the other house. I would ask you to ask him to refer to members in the appropriate way. The SPEAKER : Minister, there is some protocol, and you have the opportunity to refer to the member by his correct title. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Thank you, Mr Speaker. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Hon Ken Travers, who on that day was an inflamed Kenny Travers, according to the transcript that I am reading from, basically said four things that we need to quickly deal with. He insinuated, firstly, that there was a quota; and, secondly, that the revenue flowed through into the coffers of the Public Transport Authority. Firstly, there is no quota. Secondly, as Hon Ken Travers should know, when people get a fine, the revenue flows through to consolidated revenue, not to the PTA. So, myth number one has been busted. Hon Ken Travers went on to insinuate also that the level of inspections has gone up to drive this revenue grab. When we look at the situation historically, as a percentage of total train travel the number of inspections is lower now than it was for many years under Labor in government. So, myth number two has been busted. Hon Ken Travers said also that one of the problems that we have when governments privatise services is that no-one wants to take responsibility. That is myth number three. The fact is that the Labor government would have renewed this contract at least two times, and possibly three, during its term of government. Therefore, Hon Ken Travers is complaining about something that members opposite supported when they were in government. Myth number four—the final myth that led to this horrible condition known as an inflamed Kenny Travers—is that if a person gets off a train and a revenue protection officer comes up to that person and says, “Show us your ticket”, and the ticket is okay, the revenue protection officer is then going to make up another offence. The revenue protection officer is going to say, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your tie is no good”, or, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your shoelaces are undone”. How ridiculous! Hopefully, the dispelling of those four myths will help reduce the inflammation of Hon Ken Travers.
Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I was distracted yet again today by the member for Forrestfield! Getting back to the survey — Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Share the love! I am here to share the love, Mr Speaker! I can only imagine that the response has been in part buoyed by our investment in the Butler railway line, $240 million; our investment in City Link, $600 million; our $51 million investment in new car parks, which means that people will be able to drive to the train and catch the train; and all the other commitments that we have made. Before I sit down, I thought it would be opportune to reflect on recent opposition announcements in and around public transport. We have really seen two. One has been the commitment by the member for Ellenbrook—or the member for West Swan—to the Ellenbrook rail line. Again, I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition’s commitment, at the next election, to that hard-fought for piece of rail infrastructure, which the member for West Swan has campaigned on so passionately during her time in this house. I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition backing her up on that! That will be the train to somewhere called “nobody”. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Secondly, I noticed last week, much to my shock and disappointment, that the shadow Minister for Transport was complaining about the fact that inspectors were asking people to show them their train ticket when they got off the train; and, if they had not paid for a ticket, they were getting a fare — Mr A.J. Waddell : A fine! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Sorry; a fine. I had a look at an interview that the shadow Minister for Transport had on Radio 6PR with Mr Larry Graham. Larry Graham said — Well there was a story in today’s West about inspectors on Perth trains allegedly being set quotas — That turned out to be false — to catch fare dodgers. This has inflamed Kenny Travers … I would hate to see an inflamed Kenny Travers! I do not even know what sort of condition an inflamed Kenny Travers is! But I do not want one! I do not want an inflamed Kenny Travers! So I am going to try to un-inflame Kenny Travers! The inflamed Kenny Travers raised three issues that I think we need to canvass. Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker, I believe the Minister for Transport knows how to refer to members of the other house. I would ask you to ask him to refer to members in the appropriate way. The SPEAKER : Minister, there is some protocol, and you have the opportunity to refer to the member by his correct title. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Thank you, Mr Speaker. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Hon Ken Travers, who on that day was an inflamed Kenny Travers, according to the transcript that I am reading from, basically said four things that we need to quickly deal with. He insinuated, firstly, that there was a quota; and, secondly, that the revenue flowed through into the coffers of the Public Transport Authority. Firstly, there is no quota. Secondly, as Hon Ken Travers should know, when people get a fine, the revenue flows through to consolidated revenue, not to the PTA. So, myth number one has been busted. Hon Ken Travers went on to insinuate also that the level of inspections has gone up to drive this revenue grab. When we look at the situation historically, as a percentage of total train travel the number of inspections is lower now than it was for many years under Labor in government. So, myth number two has been busted. Hon Ken Travers said also that one of the problems that we have when governments privatise services is that no-one wants to take responsibility. That is myth number three. The fact is that the Labor government would have renewed this contract at least two times, and possibly three, during its term of government. Therefore, Hon Ken Travers is complaining about something that members opposite supported when they were in government. Myth number four—the final myth that led to this horrible condition known as an inflamed Kenny Travers—is that if a person gets off a train and a revenue protection officer comes up to that person and says, “Show us your ticket”, and the ticket is okay, the revenue protection officer is then going to make up another offence. The revenue protection officer is going to say, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your tie is no good”, or, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your shoelaces are undone”. How ridiculous! Hopefully, the dispelling of those four myths will help reduce the inflammation of Hon Ken Travers.
Getting back to the survey — Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Share the love! I am here to share the love, Mr Speaker! I can only imagine that the response has been in part buoyed by our investment in the Butler railway line, $240 million; our investment in City Link, $600 million; our $51 million investment in new car parks, which means that people will be able to drive to the train and catch the train; and all the other commitments that we have made. Before I sit down, I thought it would be opportune to reflect on recent opposition announcements in and around public transport. We have really seen two. One has been the commitment by the member for Ellenbrook—or the member for West Swan—to the Ellenbrook rail line. Again, I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition’s commitment, at the next election, to that hard-fought for piece of rail infrastructure, which the member for West Swan has campaigned on so passionately during her time in this house. I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition backing her up on that! That will be the train to somewhere called “nobody”. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Secondly, I noticed last week, much to my shock and disappointment, that the shadow Minister for Transport was complaining about the fact that inspectors were asking people to show them their train ticket when they got off the train; and, if they had not paid for a ticket, they were getting a fare — Mr A.J. Waddell : A fine! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Sorry; a fine. I had a look at an interview that the shadow Minister for Transport had on Radio 6PR with Mr Larry Graham. Larry Graham said — Well there was a story in today’s West about inspectors on Perth trains allegedly being set quotas — That turned out to be false — to catch fare dodgers. This has inflamed Kenny Travers … I would hate to see an inflamed Kenny Travers! I do not even know what sort of condition an inflamed Kenny Travers is! But I do not want one! I do not want an inflamed Kenny Travers! So I am going to try to un-inflame Kenny Travers! The inflamed Kenny Travers raised three issues that I think we need to canvass. Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker, I believe the Minister for Transport knows how to refer to members of the other house. I would ask you to ask him to refer to members in the appropriate way. The SPEAKER : Minister, there is some protocol, and you have the opportunity to refer to the member by his correct title. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Thank you, Mr Speaker. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Hon Ken Travers, who on that day was an inflamed Kenny Travers, according to the transcript that I am reading from, basically said four things that we need to quickly deal with. He insinuated, firstly, that there was a quota; and, secondly, that the revenue flowed through into the coffers of the Public Transport Authority. Firstly, there is no quota. Secondly, as Hon Ken Travers should know, when people get a fine, the revenue flows through to consolidated revenue, not to the PTA. So, myth number one has been busted. Hon Ken Travers went on to insinuate also that the level of inspections has gone up to drive this revenue grab. When we look at the situation historically, as a percentage of total train travel the number of inspections is lower now than it was for many years under Labor in government. So, myth number two has been busted. Hon Ken Travers said also that one of the problems that we have when governments privatise services is that no-one wants to take responsibility. That is myth number three. The fact is that the Labor government would have renewed this contract at least two times, and possibly three, during its term of government. Therefore, Hon Ken Travers is complaining about something that members opposite supported when they were in government. Myth number four—the final myth that led to this horrible condition known as an inflamed Kenny Travers—is that if a person gets off a train and a revenue protection officer comes up to that person and says, “Show us your ticket”, and the ticket is okay, the revenue protection officer is then going to make up another offence. The revenue protection officer is going to say, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your tie is no good”, or, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your shoelaces are undone”. How ridiculous! Hopefully, the dispelling of those four myths will help reduce the inflammation of Hon Ken Travers.
Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Share the love! I am here to share the love, Mr Speaker! I can only imagine that the response has been in part buoyed by our investment in the Butler railway line, $240 million; our investment in City Link, $600 million; our $51 million investment in new car parks, which means that people will be able to drive to the train and catch the train; and all the other commitments that we have made. Before I sit down, I thought it would be opportune to reflect on recent opposition announcements in and around public transport. We have really seen two. One has been the commitment by the member for Ellenbrook—or the member for West Swan—to the Ellenbrook rail line. Again, I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition’s commitment, at the next election, to that hard-fought for piece of rail infrastructure, which the member for West Swan has campaigned on so passionately during her time in this house. I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition backing her up on that! That will be the train to somewhere called “nobody”. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Secondly, I noticed last week, much to my shock and disappointment, that the shadow Minister for Transport was complaining about the fact that inspectors were asking people to show them their train ticket when they got off the train; and, if they had not paid for a ticket, they were getting a fare — Mr A.J. Waddell : A fine! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Sorry; a fine. I had a look at an interview that the shadow Minister for Transport had on Radio 6PR with Mr Larry Graham. Larry Graham said — Well there was a story in today’s West about inspectors on Perth trains allegedly being set quotas — That turned out to be false — to catch fare dodgers. This has inflamed Kenny Travers … I would hate to see an inflamed Kenny Travers! I do not even know what sort of condition an inflamed Kenny Travers is! But I do not want one! I do not want an inflamed Kenny Travers! So I am going to try to un-inflame Kenny Travers! The inflamed Kenny Travers raised three issues that I think we need to canvass. Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker, I believe the Minister for Transport knows how to refer to members of the other house. I would ask you to ask him to refer to members in the appropriate way. The SPEAKER : Minister, there is some protocol, and you have the opportunity to refer to the member by his correct title. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Thank you, Mr Speaker. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Hon Ken Travers, who on that day was an inflamed Kenny Travers, according to the transcript that I am reading from, basically said four things that we need to quickly deal with. He insinuated, firstly, that there was a quota; and, secondly, that the revenue flowed through into the coffers of the Public Transport Authority. Firstly, there is no quota. Secondly, as Hon Ken Travers should know, when people get a fine, the revenue flows through to consolidated revenue, not to the PTA. So, myth number one has been busted. Hon Ken Travers went on to insinuate also that the level of inspections has gone up to drive this revenue grab. When we look at the situation historically, as a percentage of total train travel the number of inspections is lower now than it was for many years under Labor in government. So, myth number two has been busted. Hon Ken Travers said also that one of the problems that we have when governments privatise services is that no-one wants to take responsibility. That is myth number three. The fact is that the Labor government would have renewed this contract at least two times, and possibly three, during its term of government. Therefore, Hon Ken Travers is complaining about something that members opposite supported when they were in government. Myth number four—the final myth that led to this horrible condition known as an inflamed Kenny Travers—is that if a person gets off a train and a revenue protection officer comes up to that person and says, “Show us your ticket”, and the ticket is okay, the revenue protection officer is then going to make up another offence. The revenue protection officer is going to say, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your tie is no good”, or, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your shoelaces are undone”. How ridiculous! Hopefully, the dispelling of those four myths will help reduce the inflammation of Hon Ken Travers.
Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Share the love! I am here to share the love, Mr Speaker! I can only imagine that the response has been in part buoyed by our investment in the Butler railway line, $240 million; our investment in City Link, $600 million; our $51 million investment in new car parks, which means that people will be able to drive to the train and catch the train; and all the other commitments that we have made. Before I sit down, I thought it would be opportune to reflect on recent opposition announcements in and around public transport. We have really seen two. One has been the commitment by the member for Ellenbrook—or the member for West Swan—to the Ellenbrook rail line. Again, I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition’s commitment, at the next election, to that hard-fought for piece of rail infrastructure, which the member for West Swan has campaigned on so passionately during her time in this house. I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition backing her up on that! That will be the train to somewhere called “nobody”. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Secondly, I noticed last week, much to my shock and disappointment, that the shadow Minister for Transport was complaining about the fact that inspectors were asking people to show them their train ticket when they got off the train; and, if they had not paid for a ticket, they were getting a fare — Mr A.J. Waddell : A fine! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Sorry; a fine. I had a look at an interview that the shadow Minister for Transport had on Radio 6PR with Mr Larry Graham. Larry Graham said — Well there was a story in today’s West about inspectors on Perth trains allegedly being set quotas — That turned out to be false — to catch fare dodgers. This has inflamed Kenny Travers … I would hate to see an inflamed Kenny Travers! I do not even know what sort of condition an inflamed Kenny Travers is! But I do not want one! I do not want an inflamed Kenny Travers! So I am going to try to un-inflame Kenny Travers! The inflamed Kenny Travers raised three issues that I think we need to canvass. Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker, I believe the Minister for Transport knows how to refer to members of the other house. I would ask you to ask him to refer to members in the appropriate way. The SPEAKER : Minister, there is some protocol, and you have the opportunity to refer to the member by his correct title. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Thank you, Mr Speaker. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Hon Ken Travers, who on that day was an inflamed Kenny Travers, according to the transcript that I am reading from, basically said four things that we need to quickly deal with. He insinuated, firstly, that there was a quota; and, secondly, that the revenue flowed through into the coffers of the Public Transport Authority. Firstly, there is no quota. Secondly, as Hon Ken Travers should know, when people get a fine, the revenue flows through to consolidated revenue, not to the PTA. So, myth number one has been busted. Hon Ken Travers went on to insinuate also that the level of inspections has gone up to drive this revenue grab. When we look at the situation historically, as a percentage of total train travel the number of inspections is lower now than it was for many years under Labor in government. So, myth number two has been busted. Hon Ken Travers said also that one of the problems that we have when governments privatise services is that no-one wants to take responsibility. That is myth number three. The fact is that the Labor government would have renewed this contract at least two times, and possibly three, during its term of government. Therefore, Hon Ken Travers is complaining about something that members opposite supported when they were in government. Myth number four—the final myth that led to this horrible condition known as an inflamed Kenny Travers—is that if a person gets off a train and a revenue protection officer comes up to that person and says, “Show us your ticket”, and the ticket is okay, the revenue protection officer is then going to make up another offence. The revenue protection officer is going to say, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your tie is no good”, or, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your shoelaces are undone”. How ridiculous! Hopefully, the dispelling of those four myths will help reduce the inflammation of Hon Ken Travers.
Before I sit down, I thought it would be opportune to reflect on recent opposition announcements in and around public transport. We have really seen two. One has been the commitment by the member for Ellenbrook—or the member for West Swan—to the Ellenbrook rail line. Again, I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition’s commitment, at the next election, to that hard-fought for piece of rail infrastructure, which the member for West Swan has campaigned on so passionately during her time in this house. I look forward to the Leader of the Opposition backing her up on that! That will be the train to somewhere called “nobody”. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Secondly, I noticed last week, much to my shock and disappointment, that the shadow Minister for Transport was complaining about the fact that inspectors were asking people to show them their train ticket when they got off the train; and, if they had not paid for a ticket, they were getting a fare — Mr A.J. Waddell : A fine! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Sorry; a fine. I had a look at an interview that the shadow Minister for Transport had on Radio 6PR with Mr Larry Graham. Larry Graham said — Well there was a story in today’s West about inspectors on Perth trains allegedly being set quotas — That turned out to be false — to catch fare dodgers. This has inflamed Kenny Travers … I would hate to see an inflamed Kenny Travers! I do not even know what sort of condition an inflamed Kenny Travers is! But I do not want one! I do not want an inflamed Kenny Travers! So I am going to try to un-inflame Kenny Travers! The inflamed Kenny Travers raised three issues that I think we need to canvass. Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker, I believe the Minister for Transport knows how to refer to members of the other house. I would ask you to ask him to refer to members in the appropriate way. The SPEAKER : Minister, there is some protocol, and you have the opportunity to refer to the member by his correct title. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Thank you, Mr Speaker. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Hon Ken Travers, who on that day was an inflamed Kenny Travers, according to the transcript that I am reading from, basically said four things that we need to quickly deal with. He insinuated, firstly, that there was a quota; and, secondly, that the revenue flowed through into the coffers of the Public Transport Authority. Firstly, there is no quota. Secondly, as Hon Ken Travers should know, when people get a fine, the revenue flows through to consolidated revenue, not to the PTA. So, myth number one has been busted. Hon Ken Travers went on to insinuate also that the level of inspections has gone up to drive this revenue grab. When we look at the situation historically, as a percentage of total train travel the number of inspections is lower now than it was for many years under Labor in government. So, myth number two has been busted. Hon Ken Travers said also that one of the problems that we have when governments privatise services is that no-one wants to take responsibility. That is myth number three. The fact is that the Labor government would have renewed this contract at least two times, and possibly three, during its term of government. Therefore, Hon Ken Travers is complaining about something that members opposite supported when they were in government. Myth number four—the final myth that led to this horrible condition known as an inflamed Kenny Travers—is that if a person gets off a train and a revenue protection officer comes up to that person and says, “Show us your ticket”, and the ticket is okay, the revenue protection officer is then going to make up another offence. The revenue protection officer is going to say, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your tie is no good”, or, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your shoelaces are undone”. How ridiculous! Hopefully, the dispelling of those four myths will help reduce the inflammation of Hon Ken Travers.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Secondly, I noticed last week, much to my shock and disappointment, that the shadow Minister for Transport was complaining about the fact that inspectors were asking people to show them their train ticket when they got off the train; and, if they had not paid for a ticket, they were getting a fare — Mr A.J. Waddell : A fine! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Sorry; a fine. I had a look at an interview that the shadow Minister for Transport had on Radio 6PR with Mr Larry Graham. Larry Graham said — Well there was a story in today’s West about inspectors on Perth trains allegedly being set quotas — That turned out to be false — to catch fare dodgers. This has inflamed Kenny Travers … I would hate to see an inflamed Kenny Travers! I do not even know what sort of condition an inflamed Kenny Travers is! But I do not want one! I do not want an inflamed Kenny Travers! So I am going to try to un-inflame Kenny Travers! The inflamed Kenny Travers raised three issues that I think we need to canvass. Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker, I believe the Minister for Transport knows how to refer to members of the other house. I would ask you to ask him to refer to members in the appropriate way. The SPEAKER : Minister, there is some protocol, and you have the opportunity to refer to the member by his correct title. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Thank you, Mr Speaker. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Hon Ken Travers, who on that day was an inflamed Kenny Travers, according to the transcript that I am reading from, basically said four things that we need to quickly deal with. He insinuated, firstly, that there was a quota; and, secondly, that the revenue flowed through into the coffers of the Public Transport Authority. Firstly, there is no quota. Secondly, as Hon Ken Travers should know, when people get a fine, the revenue flows through to consolidated revenue, not to the PTA. So, myth number one has been busted. Hon Ken Travers went on to insinuate also that the level of inspections has gone up to drive this revenue grab. When we look at the situation historically, as a percentage of total train travel the number of inspections is lower now than it was for many years under Labor in government. So, myth number two has been busted. Hon Ken Travers said also that one of the problems that we have when governments privatise services is that no-one wants to take responsibility. That is myth number three. The fact is that the Labor government would have renewed this contract at least two times, and possibly three, during its term of government. Therefore, Hon Ken Travers is complaining about something that members opposite supported when they were in government. Myth number four—the final myth that led to this horrible condition known as an inflamed Kenny Travers—is that if a person gets off a train and a revenue protection officer comes up to that person and says, “Show us your ticket”, and the ticket is okay, the revenue protection officer is then going to make up another offence. The revenue protection officer is going to say, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your tie is no good”, or, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your shoelaces are undone”. How ridiculous! Hopefully, the dispelling of those four myths will help reduce the inflammation of Hon Ken Travers.
The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Secondly, I noticed last week, much to my shock and disappointment, that the shadow Minister for Transport was complaining about the fact that inspectors were asking people to show them their train ticket when they got off the train; and, if they had not paid for a ticket, they were getting a fare — Mr A.J. Waddell : A fine! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Sorry; a fine. I had a look at an interview that the shadow Minister for Transport had on Radio 6PR with Mr Larry Graham. Larry Graham said — Well there was a story in today’s West about inspectors on Perth trains allegedly being set quotas — That turned out to be false — to catch fare dodgers. This has inflamed Kenny Travers … I would hate to see an inflamed Kenny Travers! I do not even know what sort of condition an inflamed Kenny Travers is! But I do not want one! I do not want an inflamed Kenny Travers! So I am going to try to un-inflame Kenny Travers! The inflamed Kenny Travers raised three issues that I think we need to canvass. Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker, I believe the Minister for Transport knows how to refer to members of the other house. I would ask you to ask him to refer to members in the appropriate way. The SPEAKER : Minister, there is some protocol, and you have the opportunity to refer to the member by his correct title. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Thank you, Mr Speaker. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Hon Ken Travers, who on that day was an inflamed Kenny Travers, according to the transcript that I am reading from, basically said four things that we need to quickly deal with. He insinuated, firstly, that there was a quota; and, secondly, that the revenue flowed through into the coffers of the Public Transport Authority. Firstly, there is no quota. Secondly, as Hon Ken Travers should know, when people get a fine, the revenue flows through to consolidated revenue, not to the PTA. So, myth number one has been busted. Hon Ken Travers went on to insinuate also that the level of inspections has gone up to drive this revenue grab. When we look at the situation historically, as a percentage of total train travel the number of inspections is lower now than it was for many years under Labor in government. So, myth number two has been busted. Hon Ken Travers said also that one of the problems that we have when governments privatise services is that no-one wants to take responsibility. That is myth number three. The fact is that the Labor government would have renewed this contract at least two times, and possibly three, during its term of government. Therefore, Hon Ken Travers is complaining about something that members opposite supported when they were in government. Myth number four—the final myth that led to this horrible condition known as an inflamed Kenny Travers—is that if a person gets off a train and a revenue protection officer comes up to that person and says, “Show us your ticket”, and the ticket is okay, the revenue protection officer is then going to make up another offence. The revenue protection officer is going to say, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your tie is no good”, or, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your shoelaces are undone”. How ridiculous! Hopefully, the dispelling of those four myths will help reduce the inflammation of Hon Ken Travers.
Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Secondly, I noticed last week, much to my shock and disappointment, that the shadow Minister for Transport was complaining about the fact that inspectors were asking people to show them their train ticket when they got off the train; and, if they had not paid for a ticket, they were getting a fare — Mr A.J. Waddell : A fine! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Sorry; a fine. I had a look at an interview that the shadow Minister for Transport had on Radio 6PR with Mr Larry Graham. Larry Graham said — Well there was a story in today’s West about inspectors on Perth trains allegedly being set quotas — That turned out to be false — to catch fare dodgers. This has inflamed Kenny Travers … I would hate to see an inflamed Kenny Travers! I do not even know what sort of condition an inflamed Kenny Travers is! But I do not want one! I do not want an inflamed Kenny Travers! So I am going to try to un-inflame Kenny Travers! The inflamed Kenny Travers raised three issues that I think we need to canvass. Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker, I believe the Minister for Transport knows how to refer to members of the other house. I would ask you to ask him to refer to members in the appropriate way. The SPEAKER : Minister, there is some protocol, and you have the opportunity to refer to the member by his correct title. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Thank you, Mr Speaker. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Hon Ken Travers, who on that day was an inflamed Kenny Travers, according to the transcript that I am reading from, basically said four things that we need to quickly deal with. He insinuated, firstly, that there was a quota; and, secondly, that the revenue flowed through into the coffers of the Public Transport Authority. Firstly, there is no quota. Secondly, as Hon Ken Travers should know, when people get a fine, the revenue flows through to consolidated revenue, not to the PTA. So, myth number one has been busted. Hon Ken Travers went on to insinuate also that the level of inspections has gone up to drive this revenue grab. When we look at the situation historically, as a percentage of total train travel the number of inspections is lower now than it was for many years under Labor in government. So, myth number two has been busted. Hon Ken Travers said also that one of the problems that we have when governments privatise services is that no-one wants to take responsibility. That is myth number three. The fact is that the Labor government would have renewed this contract at least two times, and possibly three, during its term of government. Therefore, Hon Ken Travers is complaining about something that members opposite supported when they were in government. Myth number four—the final myth that led to this horrible condition known as an inflamed Kenny Travers—is that if a person gets off a train and a revenue protection officer comes up to that person and says, “Show us your ticket”, and the ticket is okay, the revenue protection officer is then going to make up another offence. The revenue protection officer is going to say, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your tie is no good”, or, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your shoelaces are undone”. How ridiculous! Hopefully, the dispelling of those four myths will help reduce the inflammation of Hon Ken Travers.
Mr A.J. Waddell : A fine! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Sorry; a fine. I had a look at an interview that the shadow Minister for Transport had on Radio 6PR with Mr Larry Graham. Larry Graham said — Well there was a story in today’s West about inspectors on Perth trains allegedly being set quotas — That turned out to be false — to catch fare dodgers. This has inflamed Kenny Travers … I would hate to see an inflamed Kenny Travers! I do not even know what sort of condition an inflamed Kenny Travers is! But I do not want one! I do not want an inflamed Kenny Travers! So I am going to try to un-inflame Kenny Travers! The inflamed Kenny Travers raised three issues that I think we need to canvass. Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker, I believe the Minister for Transport knows how to refer to members of the other house. I would ask you to ask him to refer to members in the appropriate way. The SPEAKER : Minister, there is some protocol, and you have the opportunity to refer to the member by his correct title. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Thank you, Mr Speaker. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Hon Ken Travers, who on that day was an inflamed Kenny Travers, according to the transcript that I am reading from, basically said four things that we need to quickly deal with. He insinuated, firstly, that there was a quota; and, secondly, that the revenue flowed through into the coffers of the Public Transport Authority. Firstly, there is no quota. Secondly, as Hon Ken Travers should know, when people get a fine, the revenue flows through to consolidated revenue, not to the PTA. So, myth number one has been busted. Hon Ken Travers went on to insinuate also that the level of inspections has gone up to drive this revenue grab. When we look at the situation historically, as a percentage of total train travel the number of inspections is lower now than it was for many years under Labor in government. So, myth number two has been busted. Hon Ken Travers said also that one of the problems that we have when governments privatise services is that no-one wants to take responsibility. That is myth number three. The fact is that the Labor government would have renewed this contract at least two times, and possibly three, during its term of government. Therefore, Hon Ken Travers is complaining about something that members opposite supported when they were in government. Myth number four—the final myth that led to this horrible condition known as an inflamed Kenny Travers—is that if a person gets off a train and a revenue protection officer comes up to that person and says, “Show us your ticket”, and the ticket is okay, the revenue protection officer is then going to make up another offence. The revenue protection officer is going to say, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your tie is no good”, or, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your shoelaces are undone”. How ridiculous! Hopefully, the dispelling of those four myths will help reduce the inflammation of Hon Ken Travers.
Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Sorry; a fine. I had a look at an interview that the shadow Minister for Transport had on Radio 6PR with Mr Larry Graham. Larry Graham said — Well there was a story in today’s West about inspectors on Perth trains allegedly being set quotas — That turned out to be false — to catch fare dodgers. This has inflamed Kenny Travers … I would hate to see an inflamed Kenny Travers! I do not even know what sort of condition an inflamed Kenny Travers is! But I do not want one! I do not want an inflamed Kenny Travers! So I am going to try to un-inflame Kenny Travers! The inflamed Kenny Travers raised three issues that I think we need to canvass. Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker, I believe the Minister for Transport knows how to refer to members of the other house. I would ask you to ask him to refer to members in the appropriate way. The SPEAKER : Minister, there is some protocol, and you have the opportunity to refer to the member by his correct title. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Thank you, Mr Speaker. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Hon Ken Travers, who on that day was an inflamed Kenny Travers, according to the transcript that I am reading from, basically said four things that we need to quickly deal with. He insinuated, firstly, that there was a quota; and, secondly, that the revenue flowed through into the coffers of the Public Transport Authority. Firstly, there is no quota. Secondly, as Hon Ken Travers should know, when people get a fine, the revenue flows through to consolidated revenue, not to the PTA. So, myth number one has been busted. Hon Ken Travers went on to insinuate also that the level of inspections has gone up to drive this revenue grab. When we look at the situation historically, as a percentage of total train travel the number of inspections is lower now than it was for many years under Labor in government. So, myth number two has been busted. Hon Ken Travers said also that one of the problems that we have when governments privatise services is that no-one wants to take responsibility. That is myth number three. The fact is that the Labor government would have renewed this contract at least two times, and possibly three, during its term of government. Therefore, Hon Ken Travers is complaining about something that members opposite supported when they were in government. Myth number four—the final myth that led to this horrible condition known as an inflamed Kenny Travers—is that if a person gets off a train and a revenue protection officer comes up to that person and says, “Show us your ticket”, and the ticket is okay, the revenue protection officer is then going to make up another offence. The revenue protection officer is going to say, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your tie is no good”, or, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your shoelaces are undone”. How ridiculous! Hopefully, the dispelling of those four myths will help reduce the inflammation of Hon Ken Travers.
I had a look at an interview that the shadow Minister for Transport had on Radio 6PR with Mr Larry Graham. Larry Graham said — Well there was a story in today’s West about inspectors on Perth trains allegedly being set quotas — That turned out to be false — to catch fare dodgers. This has inflamed Kenny Travers … I would hate to see an inflamed Kenny Travers! I do not even know what sort of condition an inflamed Kenny Travers is! But I do not want one! I do not want an inflamed Kenny Travers! So I am going to try to un-inflame Kenny Travers! The inflamed Kenny Travers raised three issues that I think we need to canvass. Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker, I believe the Minister for Transport knows how to refer to members of the other house. I would ask you to ask him to refer to members in the appropriate way. The SPEAKER : Minister, there is some protocol, and you have the opportunity to refer to the member by his correct title. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Thank you, Mr Speaker. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Hon Ken Travers, who on that day was an inflamed Kenny Travers, according to the transcript that I am reading from, basically said four things that we need to quickly deal with. He insinuated, firstly, that there was a quota; and, secondly, that the revenue flowed through into the coffers of the Public Transport Authority. Firstly, there is no quota. Secondly, as Hon Ken Travers should know, when people get a fine, the revenue flows through to consolidated revenue, not to the PTA. So, myth number one has been busted. Hon Ken Travers went on to insinuate also that the level of inspections has gone up to drive this revenue grab. When we look at the situation historically, as a percentage of total train travel the number of inspections is lower now than it was for many years under Labor in government. So, myth number two has been busted. Hon Ken Travers said also that one of the problems that we have when governments privatise services is that no-one wants to take responsibility. That is myth number three. The fact is that the Labor government would have renewed this contract at least two times, and possibly three, during its term of government. Therefore, Hon Ken Travers is complaining about something that members opposite supported when they were in government. Myth number four—the final myth that led to this horrible condition known as an inflamed Kenny Travers—is that if a person gets off a train and a revenue protection officer comes up to that person and says, “Show us your ticket”, and the ticket is okay, the revenue protection officer is then going to make up another offence. The revenue protection officer is going to say, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your tie is no good”, or, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your shoelaces are undone”. How ridiculous! Hopefully, the dispelling of those four myths will help reduce the inflammation of Hon Ken Travers.
The SPEAKER : Minister, there is some protocol, and you have the opportunity to refer to the member by his correct title. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Thank you, Mr Speaker. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Hon Ken Travers, who on that day was an inflamed Kenny Travers, according to the transcript that I am reading from, basically said four things that we need to quickly deal with. He insinuated, firstly, that there was a quota; and, secondly, that the revenue flowed through into the coffers of the Public Transport Authority. Firstly, there is no quota. Secondly, as Hon Ken Travers should know, when people get a fine, the revenue flows through to consolidated revenue, not to the PTA. So, myth number one has been busted. Hon Ken Travers went on to insinuate also that the level of inspections has gone up to drive this revenue grab. When we look at the situation historically, as a percentage of total train travel the number of inspections is lower now than it was for many years under Labor in government. So, myth number two has been busted. Hon Ken Travers said also that one of the problems that we have when governments privatise services is that no-one wants to take responsibility. That is myth number three. The fact is that the Labor government would have renewed this contract at least two times, and possibly three, during its term of government. Therefore, Hon Ken Travers is complaining about something that members opposite supported when they were in government. Myth number four—the final myth that led to this horrible condition known as an inflamed Kenny Travers—is that if a person gets off a train and a revenue protection officer comes up to that person and says, “Show us your ticket”, and the ticket is okay, the revenue protection officer is then going to make up another offence. The revenue protection officer is going to say, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your tie is no good”, or, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your shoelaces are undone”. How ridiculous! Hopefully, the dispelling of those four myths will help reduce the inflammation of Hon Ken Travers.
Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Thank you, Mr Speaker. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Hon Ken Travers, who on that day was an inflamed Kenny Travers, according to the transcript that I am reading from, basically said four things that we need to quickly deal with. He insinuated, firstly, that there was a quota; and, secondly, that the revenue flowed through into the coffers of the Public Transport Authority. Firstly, there is no quota. Secondly, as Hon Ken Travers should know, when people get a fine, the revenue flows through to consolidated revenue, not to the PTA. So, myth number one has been busted. Hon Ken Travers went on to insinuate also that the level of inspections has gone up to drive this revenue grab. When we look at the situation historically, as a percentage of total train travel the number of inspections is lower now than it was for many years under Labor in government. So, myth number two has been busted. Hon Ken Travers said also that one of the problems that we have when governments privatise services is that no-one wants to take responsibility. That is myth number three. The fact is that the Labor government would have renewed this contract at least two times, and possibly three, during its term of government. Therefore, Hon Ken Travers is complaining about something that members opposite supported when they were in government. Myth number four—the final myth that led to this horrible condition known as an inflamed Kenny Travers—is that if a person gets off a train and a revenue protection officer comes up to that person and says, “Show us your ticket”, and the ticket is okay, the revenue protection officer is then going to make up another offence. The revenue protection officer is going to say, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your tie is no good”, or, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your shoelaces are undone”. How ridiculous! Hopefully, the dispelling of those four myths will help reduce the inflammation of Hon Ken Travers.
Hon Ken Travers went on to insinuate also that the level of inspections has gone up to drive this revenue grab. When we look at the situation historically, as a percentage of total train travel the number of inspections is lower now than it was for many years under Labor in government. So, myth number two has been busted. Hon Ken Travers said also that one of the problems that we have when governments privatise services is that no-one wants to take responsibility. That is myth number three. The fact is that the Labor government would have renewed this contract at least two times, and possibly three, during its term of government. Therefore, Hon Ken Travers is complaining about something that members opposite supported when they were in government. Myth number four—the final myth that led to this horrible condition known as an inflamed Kenny Travers—is that if a person gets off a train and a revenue protection officer comes up to that person and says, “Show us your ticket”, and the ticket is okay, the revenue protection officer is then going to make up another offence. The revenue protection officer is going to say, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your tie is no good”, or, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your shoelaces are undone”. How ridiculous! Hopefully, the dispelling of those four myths will help reduce the inflammation of Hon Ken Travers.
Myth number four—the final myth that led to this horrible condition known as an inflamed Kenny Travers—is that if a person gets off a train and a revenue protection officer comes up to that person and says, “Show us your ticket”, and the ticket is okay, the revenue protection officer is then going to make up another offence. The revenue protection officer is going to say, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your tie is no good”, or, “Your ticket is okay, but I am going to fine you because your shoelaces are undone”. How ridiculous! Hopefully, the dispelling of those four myths will help reduce the inflammation of Hon Ken Travers.
Hopefully, the dispelling of those four myths will help reduce the inflammation of Hon Ken Travers.

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