Question about WA's future energy mix and whether it will rely on the federal member for Tangney's plans. The Premier responds by criticising the member's ideas and outlining the government's energy plans, including gas, coal, renewables, and desalination, while ruling out nuclear energy.

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23 October 2007
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Premier

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ENERGY - FUTURE SOURCES
(1) Will the Premier tell this house his vision for Western Australia’s future energy mix? (2) Will the Premier also tell this house whether it will rely in any way on the crazy plans of the current member for Tangney? Mr A.J. CARPENTER

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(1)-(2) I thank the member for the question. I remind the house that the federal member for Tangney, Hon Dennis Jensen, to whom the member refers, is the man who proposed that to help combat the effects of greenhouse on the Great Barrier Reef, Australia should consider stretching shadecloth between satellites in space to diminish the intensity of the sun’s rays falling over the east coast of Australia. Hon Dennis Jensen then went on to promote himself as a former CSIRO scientist! I think this house might know why he is a former CSIRO scientist! He could only be described as a complete crackpot. He is the same CSIRO scientist who asserted - and I think I know what he means, but he probably - Dr S.C. Thomas : He copied that suggestion from NASA. It was one of those whacky suggestions that came out of NASA in the USA. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Dr Jensen has some disciples in the house, it would appear! Dr S.C. Thomas : No. He was a disciple of NASA perhaps! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My God! Western Australia has cause to be afraid for its future! Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think Dr Jensen failed to explain his proposition in this article, but on 1 July 2006 - The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : -he is quoted as stating - I am quoting from The West Australian , so I will hope for the best - “Nuclear power is safe. It has been proven historically. You are exposed to twice as much radiation sleeping next to your partner than the radiation generated from a nuclear reactor.” Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, precisely. I look forward to returning home this evening! Mr C.J. Barnett : I often describe my wife as radiant! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I like that. We are planning for the future energy supplies of the state and I think our plans are well known and recognised, although some are controversial, but thankfully, in that element at least, with the 15 per cent domestic gas supply, we are supported by the opposition. We are grateful for that support. The state has abundant natural gas reserves and that is why we have support from the opposition. We have promoted the 15 per cent domestic gas reservation policy. Coal will continue to play a significant part in the state’s energy future. BP and Rio Tinto are investigating the application of clean coal technology - Dr J.M. Woollard : What are the targets going to be? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think I detect some emissions fouling the air in the chamber! We will be expanding the traditional renewable energy resources - wind and solar - and we will look at more innovative sources, such as geothermal, wave and biomass. We have made the announcement about the desalination plant providing a percentage of future energy supplies, as well as about non-traditional renewable energy sources. There will be more to say about that later on. There is one source of energy supply that we on this side of the chamber in Western Australia will not be pursuing, and it marks us very differently from our opponents. It is nuclear energy. We will not be pursuing the option of nuclear energy for Western Australia - not now and not in the term of this or the next government or thereafter. I watched with amazement the Prime Minister - cranky, in the job too long - Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He was frightening the worm; he was deterring the worm. I was awaiting his explanation of his vision of Australia’s nuclear future and, of course, he did not provide it. He has withdrawn from the rhetorical field because he knows that it is not popular electorally. We know that if he gets the chance - I think everybody in Australia knows - Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? Leader of the Opposition, do not be afraid to be heard when you interject. Mr P.D. Omodei : It is a bit like Rudd’s greenhouse gas targets - he does not know what they are either, does he? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I actually do not think that the pursuit of nuclear energy is anything like greenhouse gas targets, but there you go. The Prime Minister is now trying to create the impression, aided and abetted by some of his ministers, like Malcolm Turnbull, that nuclear energy is only now a possibility for Australia under their leadership. It was only a few months ago that he was promoting it as the answer to climate change. Once he had actually grappled with the idea that climate change was a reality, he then presented the solution as nuclear energy, with 25 potential sites around Australia, including right next to Kirribilli. We know that Dennis Jensen would be quite happy to have one in his electorate, and so would Barry Haase - he is happy to have one. Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : Don Randall wants one too. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They all want them; they all want nuclear power plants. Unfortunately for the Prime Minister, he is on the record over and over again, and he cannot run away from it. I look forward to seeing him respond to questions about this when he comes to Western Australia. I think he is coming tonight. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sure the member will not be. He will be trying to distance himself from the lot opposite. I think members opposite will find that. He will try to find out where they are all going so he can avoid them all. The Prime Minister, John Howard, has said over and over again that he believes that a significant part of Australia’s energy future must be nuclear power. That is the reality that the Australian people do understand and will understand when they go to consider their vote at the forthcoming federal election. That view is supported by many people of the opposition in this chamber. That will be another pointed distinction between us and our opponents when we go to the next state election. Member, it is one of the crazy ideas from the federal member for Tangney that we will not be pursuing or that will not influence us in our energy policy settings.
(2) Will the Premier also tell this house whether it will rely in any way on the crazy plans of the current member for Tangney? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for the question. I remind the house that the federal member for Tangney, Hon Dennis Jensen, to whom the member refers, is the man who proposed that to help combat the effects of greenhouse on the Great Barrier Reef, Australia should consider stretching shadecloth between satellites in space to diminish the intensity of the sun’s rays falling over the east coast of Australia. Hon Dennis Jensen then went on to promote himself as a former CSIRO scientist! I think this house might know why he is a former CSIRO scientist! He could only be described as a complete crackpot. He is the same CSIRO scientist who asserted - and I think I know what he means, but he probably - Dr S.C. Thomas : He copied that suggestion from NASA. It was one of those whacky suggestions that came out of NASA in the USA. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Dr Jensen has some disciples in the house, it would appear! Dr S.C. Thomas : No. He was a disciple of NASA perhaps! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My God! Western Australia has cause to be afraid for its future! Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think Dr Jensen failed to explain his proposition in this article, but on 1 July 2006 - The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : -he is quoted as stating - I am quoting from The West Australian , so I will hope for the best - “Nuclear power is safe. It has been proven historically. You are exposed to twice as much radiation sleeping next to your partner than the radiation generated from a nuclear reactor.” Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, precisely. I look forward to returning home this evening! Mr C.J. Barnett : I often describe my wife as radiant! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I like that. We are planning for the future energy supplies of the state and I think our plans are well known and recognised, although some are controversial, but thankfully, in that element at least, with the 15 per cent domestic gas supply, we are supported by the opposition. We are grateful for that support. The state has abundant natural gas reserves and that is why we have support from the opposition. We have promoted the 15 per cent domestic gas reservation policy. Coal will continue to play a significant part in the state’s energy future. BP and Rio Tinto are investigating the application of clean coal technology - Dr J.M. Woollard : What are the targets going to be? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think I detect some emissions fouling the air in the chamber! We will be expanding the traditional renewable energy resources - wind and solar - and we will look at more innovative sources, such as geothermal, wave and biomass. We have made the announcement about the desalination plant providing a percentage of future energy supplies, as well as about non-traditional renewable energy sources. There will be more to say about that later on. There is one source of energy supply that we on this side of the chamber in Western Australia will not be pursuing, and it marks us very differently from our opponents. It is nuclear energy. We will not be pursuing the option of nuclear energy for Western Australia - not now and not in the term of this or the next government or thereafter. I watched with amazement the Prime Minister - cranky, in the job too long - Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He was frightening the worm; he was deterring the worm. I was awaiting his explanation of his vision of Australia’s nuclear future and, of course, he did not provide it. He has withdrawn from the rhetorical field because he knows that it is not popular electorally. We know that if he gets the chance - I think everybody in Australia knows - Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? Leader of the Opposition, do not be afraid to be heard when you interject. Mr P.D. Omodei : It is a bit like Rudd’s greenhouse gas targets - he does not know what they are either, does he? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I actually do not think that the pursuit of nuclear energy is anything like greenhouse gas targets, but there you go. The Prime Minister is now trying to create the impression, aided and abetted by some of his ministers, like Malcolm Turnbull, that nuclear energy is only now a possibility for Australia under their leadership. It was only a few months ago that he was promoting it as the answer to climate change. Once he had actually grappled with the idea that climate change was a reality, he then presented the solution as nuclear energy, with 25 potential sites around Australia, including right next to Kirribilli. We know that Dennis Jensen would be quite happy to have one in his electorate, and so would Barry Haase - he is happy to have one. Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : Don Randall wants one too. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They all want them; they all want nuclear power plants. Unfortunately for the Prime Minister, he is on the record over and over again, and he cannot run away from it. I look forward to seeing him respond to questions about this when he comes to Western Australia. I think he is coming tonight. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sure the member will not be. He will be trying to distance himself from the lot opposite. I think members opposite will find that. He will try to find out where they are all going so he can avoid them all. The Prime Minister, John Howard, has said over and over again that he believes that a significant part of Australia’s energy future must be nuclear power. That is the reality that the Australian people do understand and will understand when they go to consider their vote at the forthcoming federal election. That view is supported by many people of the opposition in this chamber. That will be another pointed distinction between us and our opponents when we go to the next state election. Member, it is one of the crazy ideas from the federal member for Tangney that we will not be pursuing or that will not influence us in our energy policy settings.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for the question. I remind the house that the federal member for Tangney, Hon Dennis Jensen, to whom the member refers, is the man who proposed that to help combat the effects of greenhouse on the Great Barrier Reef, Australia should consider stretching shadecloth between satellites in space to diminish the intensity of the sun’s rays falling over the east coast of Australia. Hon Dennis Jensen then went on to promote himself as a former CSIRO scientist! I think this house might know why he is a former CSIRO scientist! He could only be described as a complete crackpot. He is the same CSIRO scientist who asserted - and I think I know what he means, but he probably - Dr S.C. Thomas : He copied that suggestion from NASA. It was one of those whacky suggestions that came out of NASA in the USA. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Dr Jensen has some disciples in the house, it would appear! Dr S.C. Thomas : No. He was a disciple of NASA perhaps! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My God! Western Australia has cause to be afraid for its future! Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think Dr Jensen failed to explain his proposition in this article, but on 1 July 2006 - The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : -he is quoted as stating - I am quoting from The West Australian , so I will hope for the best - “Nuclear power is safe. It has been proven historically. You are exposed to twice as much radiation sleeping next to your partner than the radiation generated from a nuclear reactor.” Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, precisely. I look forward to returning home this evening! Mr C.J. Barnett : I often describe my wife as radiant! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I like that. We are planning for the future energy supplies of the state and I think our plans are well known and recognised, although some are controversial, but thankfully, in that element at least, with the 15 per cent domestic gas supply, we are supported by the opposition. We are grateful for that support. The state has abundant natural gas reserves and that is why we have support from the opposition. We have promoted the 15 per cent domestic gas reservation policy. Coal will continue to play a significant part in the state’s energy future. BP and Rio Tinto are investigating the application of clean coal technology - Dr J.M. Woollard : What are the targets going to be? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think I detect some emissions fouling the air in the chamber! We will be expanding the traditional renewable energy resources - wind and solar - and we will look at more innovative sources, such as geothermal, wave and biomass. We have made the announcement about the desalination plant providing a percentage of future energy supplies, as well as about non-traditional renewable energy sources. There will be more to say about that later on. There is one source of energy supply that we on this side of the chamber in Western Australia will not be pursuing, and it marks us very differently from our opponents. It is nuclear energy. We will not be pursuing the option of nuclear energy for Western Australia - not now and not in the term of this or the next government or thereafter. I watched with amazement the Prime Minister - cranky, in the job too long - Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He was frightening the worm; he was deterring the worm. I was awaiting his explanation of his vision of Australia’s nuclear future and, of course, he did not provide it. He has withdrawn from the rhetorical field because he knows that it is not popular electorally. We know that if he gets the chance - I think everybody in Australia knows - Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? Leader of the Opposition, do not be afraid to be heard when you interject. Mr P.D. Omodei : It is a bit like Rudd’s greenhouse gas targets - he does not know what they are either, does he? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I actually do not think that the pursuit of nuclear energy is anything like greenhouse gas targets, but there you go. The Prime Minister is now trying to create the impression, aided and abetted by some of his ministers, like Malcolm Turnbull, that nuclear energy is only now a possibility for Australia under their leadership. It was only a few months ago that he was promoting it as the answer to climate change. Once he had actually grappled with the idea that climate change was a reality, he then presented the solution as nuclear energy, with 25 potential sites around Australia, including right next to Kirribilli. We know that Dennis Jensen would be quite happy to have one in his electorate, and so would Barry Haase - he is happy to have one. Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : Don Randall wants one too. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They all want them; they all want nuclear power plants. Unfortunately for the Prime Minister, he is on the record over and over again, and he cannot run away from it. I look forward to seeing him respond to questions about this when he comes to Western Australia. I think he is coming tonight. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sure the member will not be. He will be trying to distance himself from the lot opposite. I think members opposite will find that. He will try to find out where they are all going so he can avoid them all. The Prime Minister, John Howard, has said over and over again that he believes that a significant part of Australia’s energy future must be nuclear power. That is the reality that the Australian people do understand and will understand when they go to consider their vote at the forthcoming federal election. That view is supported by many people of the opposition in this chamber. That will be another pointed distinction between us and our opponents when we go to the next state election. Member, it is one of the crazy ideas from the federal member for Tangney that we will not be pursuing or that will not influence us in our energy policy settings.
(1)-(2) I thank the member for the question. I remind the house that the federal member for Tangney, Hon Dennis Jensen, to whom the member refers, is the man who proposed that to help combat the effects of greenhouse on the Great Barrier Reef, Australia should consider stretching shadecloth between satellites in space to diminish the intensity of the sun’s rays falling over the east coast of Australia. Hon Dennis Jensen then went on to promote himself as a former CSIRO scientist! I think this house might know why he is a former CSIRO scientist! He could only be described as a complete crackpot. He is the same CSIRO scientist who asserted - and I think I know what he means, but he probably - Dr S.C. Thomas : He copied that suggestion from NASA. It was one of those whacky suggestions that came out of NASA in the USA. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Dr Jensen has some disciples in the house, it would appear! Dr S.C. Thomas : No. He was a disciple of NASA perhaps! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My God! Western Australia has cause to be afraid for its future! Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think Dr Jensen failed to explain his proposition in this article, but on 1 July 2006 - The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : -he is quoted as stating - I am quoting from The West Australian , so I will hope for the best - “Nuclear power is safe. It has been proven historically. You are exposed to twice as much radiation sleeping next to your partner than the radiation generated from a nuclear reactor.” Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, precisely. I look forward to returning home this evening! Mr C.J. Barnett : I often describe my wife as radiant! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I like that. We are planning for the future energy supplies of the state and I think our plans are well known and recognised, although some are controversial, but thankfully, in that element at least, with the 15 per cent domestic gas supply, we are supported by the opposition. We are grateful for that support. The state has abundant natural gas reserves and that is why we have support from the opposition. We have promoted the 15 per cent domestic gas reservation policy. Coal will continue to play a significant part in the state’s energy future. BP and Rio Tinto are investigating the application of clean coal technology - Dr J.M. Woollard : What are the targets going to be? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think I detect some emissions fouling the air in the chamber! We will be expanding the traditional renewable energy resources - wind and solar - and we will look at more innovative sources, such as geothermal, wave and biomass. We have made the announcement about the desalination plant providing a percentage of future energy supplies, as well as about non-traditional renewable energy sources. There will be more to say about that later on. There is one source of energy supply that we on this side of the chamber in Western Australia will not be pursuing, and it marks us very differently from our opponents. It is nuclear energy. We will not be pursuing the option of nuclear energy for Western Australia - not now and not in the term of this or the next government or thereafter. I watched with amazement the Prime Minister - cranky, in the job too long - Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He was frightening the worm; he was deterring the worm. I was awaiting his explanation of his vision of Australia’s nuclear future and, of course, he did not provide it. He has withdrawn from the rhetorical field because he knows that it is not popular electorally. We know that if he gets the chance - I think everybody in Australia knows - Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? Leader of the Opposition, do not be afraid to be heard when you interject. Mr P.D. Omodei : It is a bit like Rudd’s greenhouse gas targets - he does not know what they are either, does he? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I actually do not think that the pursuit of nuclear energy is anything like greenhouse gas targets, but there you go. The Prime Minister is now trying to create the impression, aided and abetted by some of his ministers, like Malcolm Turnbull, that nuclear energy is only now a possibility for Australia under their leadership. It was only a few months ago that he was promoting it as the answer to climate change. Once he had actually grappled with the idea that climate change was a reality, he then presented the solution as nuclear energy, with 25 potential sites around Australia, including right next to Kirribilli. We know that Dennis Jensen would be quite happy to have one in his electorate, and so would Barry Haase - he is happy to have one. Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : Don Randall wants one too. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They all want them; they all want nuclear power plants. Unfortunately for the Prime Minister, he is on the record over and over again, and he cannot run away from it. I look forward to seeing him respond to questions about this when he comes to Western Australia. I think he is coming tonight. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sure the member will not be. He will be trying to distance himself from the lot opposite. I think members opposite will find that. He will try to find out where they are all going so he can avoid them all. The Prime Minister, John Howard, has said over and over again that he believes that a significant part of Australia’s energy future must be nuclear power. That is the reality that the Australian people do understand and will understand when they go to consider their vote at the forthcoming federal election. That view is supported by many people of the opposition in this chamber. That will be another pointed distinction between us and our opponents when we go to the next state election. Member, it is one of the crazy ideas from the federal member for Tangney that we will not be pursuing or that will not influence us in our energy policy settings.
Dr S.C. Thomas : He copied that suggestion from NASA. It was one of those whacky suggestions that came out of NASA in the USA. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Dr Jensen has some disciples in the house, it would appear! Dr S.C. Thomas : No. He was a disciple of NASA perhaps! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My God! Western Australia has cause to be afraid for its future! Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think Dr Jensen failed to explain his proposition in this article, but on 1 July 2006 - The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : -he is quoted as stating - I am quoting from The West Australian , so I will hope for the best - “Nuclear power is safe. It has been proven historically. You are exposed to twice as much radiation sleeping next to your partner than the radiation generated from a nuclear reactor.” Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, precisely. I look forward to returning home this evening! Mr C.J. Barnett : I often describe my wife as radiant! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I like that. We are planning for the future energy supplies of the state and I think our plans are well known and recognised, although some are controversial, but thankfully, in that element at least, with the 15 per cent domestic gas supply, we are supported by the opposition. We are grateful for that support. The state has abundant natural gas reserves and that is why we have support from the opposition. We have promoted the 15 per cent domestic gas reservation policy. Coal will continue to play a significant part in the state’s energy future. BP and Rio Tinto are investigating the application of clean coal technology - Dr J.M. Woollard : What are the targets going to be? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think I detect some emissions fouling the air in the chamber! We will be expanding the traditional renewable energy resources - wind and solar - and we will look at more innovative sources, such as geothermal, wave and biomass. We have made the announcement about the desalination plant providing a percentage of future energy supplies, as well as about non-traditional renewable energy sources. There will be more to say about that later on. There is one source of energy supply that we on this side of the chamber in Western Australia will not be pursuing, and it marks us very differently from our opponents. It is nuclear energy. We will not be pursuing the option of nuclear energy for Western Australia - not now and not in the term of this or the next government or thereafter. I watched with amazement the Prime Minister - cranky, in the job too long - Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He was frightening the worm; he was deterring the worm. I was awaiting his explanation of his vision of Australia’s nuclear future and, of course, he did not provide it. He has withdrawn from the rhetorical field because he knows that it is not popular electorally. We know that if he gets the chance - I think everybody in Australia knows - Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? Leader of the Opposition, do not be afraid to be heard when you interject. Mr P.D. Omodei : It is a bit like Rudd’s greenhouse gas targets - he does not know what they are either, does he? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I actually do not think that the pursuit of nuclear energy is anything like greenhouse gas targets, but there you go. The Prime Minister is now trying to create the impression, aided and abetted by some of his ministers, like Malcolm Turnbull, that nuclear energy is only now a possibility for Australia under their leadership. It was only a few months ago that he was promoting it as the answer to climate change. Once he had actually grappled with the idea that climate change was a reality, he then presented the solution as nuclear energy, with 25 potential sites around Australia, including right next to Kirribilli. We know that Dennis Jensen would be quite happy to have one in his electorate, and so would Barry Haase - he is happy to have one. Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : Don Randall wants one too. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They all want them; they all want nuclear power plants. Unfortunately for the Prime Minister, he is on the record over and over again, and he cannot run away from it. I look forward to seeing him respond to questions about this when he comes to Western Australia. I think he is coming tonight. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sure the member will not be. He will be trying to distance himself from the lot opposite. I think members opposite will find that. He will try to find out where they are all going so he can avoid them all. The Prime Minister, John Howard, has said over and over again that he believes that a significant part of Australia’s energy future must be nuclear power. That is the reality that the Australian people do understand and will understand when they go to consider their vote at the forthcoming federal election. That view is supported by many people of the opposition in this chamber. That will be another pointed distinction between us and our opponents when we go to the next state election. Member, it is one of the crazy ideas from the federal member for Tangney that we will not be pursuing or that will not influence us in our energy policy settings.
Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Dr Jensen has some disciples in the house, it would appear! Dr S.C. Thomas : No. He was a disciple of NASA perhaps! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My God! Western Australia has cause to be afraid for its future! Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think Dr Jensen failed to explain his proposition in this article, but on 1 July 2006 - The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : -he is quoted as stating - I am quoting from The West Australian , so I will hope for the best - “Nuclear power is safe. It has been proven historically. You are exposed to twice as much radiation sleeping next to your partner than the radiation generated from a nuclear reactor.” Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, precisely. I look forward to returning home this evening! Mr C.J. Barnett : I often describe my wife as radiant! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I like that. We are planning for the future energy supplies of the state and I think our plans are well known and recognised, although some are controversial, but thankfully, in that element at least, with the 15 per cent domestic gas supply, we are supported by the opposition. We are grateful for that support. The state has abundant natural gas reserves and that is why we have support from the opposition. We have promoted the 15 per cent domestic gas reservation policy. Coal will continue to play a significant part in the state’s energy future. BP and Rio Tinto are investigating the application of clean coal technology - Dr J.M. Woollard : What are the targets going to be? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think I detect some emissions fouling the air in the chamber! We will be expanding the traditional renewable energy resources - wind and solar - and we will look at more innovative sources, such as geothermal, wave and biomass. We have made the announcement about the desalination plant providing a percentage of future energy supplies, as well as about non-traditional renewable energy sources. There will be more to say about that later on. There is one source of energy supply that we on this side of the chamber in Western Australia will not be pursuing, and it marks us very differently from our opponents. It is nuclear energy. We will not be pursuing the option of nuclear energy for Western Australia - not now and not in the term of this or the next government or thereafter. I watched with amazement the Prime Minister - cranky, in the job too long - Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He was frightening the worm; he was deterring the worm. I was awaiting his explanation of his vision of Australia’s nuclear future and, of course, he did not provide it. He has withdrawn from the rhetorical field because he knows that it is not popular electorally. We know that if he gets the chance - I think everybody in Australia knows - Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? Leader of the Opposition, do not be afraid to be heard when you interject. Mr P.D. Omodei : It is a bit like Rudd’s greenhouse gas targets - he does not know what they are either, does he? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I actually do not think that the pursuit of nuclear energy is anything like greenhouse gas targets, but there you go. The Prime Minister is now trying to create the impression, aided and abetted by some of his ministers, like Malcolm Turnbull, that nuclear energy is only now a possibility for Australia under their leadership. It was only a few months ago that he was promoting it as the answer to climate change. Once he had actually grappled with the idea that climate change was a reality, he then presented the solution as nuclear energy, with 25 potential sites around Australia, including right next to Kirribilli. We know that Dennis Jensen would be quite happy to have one in his electorate, and so would Barry Haase - he is happy to have one. Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : Don Randall wants one too. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They all want them; they all want nuclear power plants. Unfortunately for the Prime Minister, he is on the record over and over again, and he cannot run away from it. I look forward to seeing him respond to questions about this when he comes to Western Australia. I think he is coming tonight. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sure the member will not be. He will be trying to distance himself from the lot opposite. I think members opposite will find that. He will try to find out where they are all going so he can avoid them all. The Prime Minister, John Howard, has said over and over again that he believes that a significant part of Australia’s energy future must be nuclear power. That is the reality that the Australian people do understand and will understand when they go to consider their vote at the forthcoming federal election. That view is supported by many people of the opposition in this chamber. That will be another pointed distinction between us and our opponents when we go to the next state election. Member, it is one of the crazy ideas from the federal member for Tangney that we will not be pursuing or that will not influence us in our energy policy settings.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Dr Jensen has some disciples in the house, it would appear! Dr S.C. Thomas : No. He was a disciple of NASA perhaps! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My God! Western Australia has cause to be afraid for its future! Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think Dr Jensen failed to explain his proposition in this article, but on 1 July 2006 - The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : -he is quoted as stating - I am quoting from The West Australian , so I will hope for the best - “Nuclear power is safe. It has been proven historically. You are exposed to twice as much radiation sleeping next to your partner than the radiation generated from a nuclear reactor.” Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, precisely. I look forward to returning home this evening! Mr C.J. Barnett : I often describe my wife as radiant! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I like that. We are planning for the future energy supplies of the state and I think our plans are well known and recognised, although some are controversial, but thankfully, in that element at least, with the 15 per cent domestic gas supply, we are supported by the opposition. We are grateful for that support. The state has abundant natural gas reserves and that is why we have support from the opposition. We have promoted the 15 per cent domestic gas reservation policy. Coal will continue to play a significant part in the state’s energy future. BP and Rio Tinto are investigating the application of clean coal technology - Dr J.M. Woollard : What are the targets going to be? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think I detect some emissions fouling the air in the chamber! We will be expanding the traditional renewable energy resources - wind and solar - and we will look at more innovative sources, such as geothermal, wave and biomass. We have made the announcement about the desalination plant providing a percentage of future energy supplies, as well as about non-traditional renewable energy sources. There will be more to say about that later on. There is one source of energy supply that we on this side of the chamber in Western Australia will not be pursuing, and it marks us very differently from our opponents. It is nuclear energy. We will not be pursuing the option of nuclear energy for Western Australia - not now and not in the term of this or the next government or thereafter. I watched with amazement the Prime Minister - cranky, in the job too long - Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He was frightening the worm; he was deterring the worm. I was awaiting his explanation of his vision of Australia’s nuclear future and, of course, he did not provide it. He has withdrawn from the rhetorical field because he knows that it is not popular electorally. We know that if he gets the chance - I think everybody in Australia knows - Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? Leader of the Opposition, do not be afraid to be heard when you interject. Mr P.D. Omodei : It is a bit like Rudd’s greenhouse gas targets - he does not know what they are either, does he? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I actually do not think that the pursuit of nuclear energy is anything like greenhouse gas targets, but there you go. The Prime Minister is now trying to create the impression, aided and abetted by some of his ministers, like Malcolm Turnbull, that nuclear energy is only now a possibility for Australia under their leadership. It was only a few months ago that he was promoting it as the answer to climate change. Once he had actually grappled with the idea that climate change was a reality, he then presented the solution as nuclear energy, with 25 potential sites around Australia, including right next to Kirribilli. We know that Dennis Jensen would be quite happy to have one in his electorate, and so would Barry Haase - he is happy to have one. Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : Don Randall wants one too. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They all want them; they all want nuclear power plants. Unfortunately for the Prime Minister, he is on the record over and over again, and he cannot run away from it. I look forward to seeing him respond to questions about this when he comes to Western Australia. I think he is coming tonight. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sure the member will not be. He will be trying to distance himself from the lot opposite. I think members opposite will find that. He will try to find out where they are all going so he can avoid them all. The Prime Minister, John Howard, has said over and over again that he believes that a significant part of Australia’s energy future must be nuclear power. That is the reality that the Australian people do understand and will understand when they go to consider their vote at the forthcoming federal election. That view is supported by many people of the opposition in this chamber. That will be another pointed distinction between us and our opponents when we go to the next state election. Member, it is one of the crazy ideas from the federal member for Tangney that we will not be pursuing or that will not influence us in our energy policy settings.
Dr S.C. Thomas : No. He was a disciple of NASA perhaps! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My God! Western Australia has cause to be afraid for its future! Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think Dr Jensen failed to explain his proposition in this article, but on 1 July 2006 - The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : -he is quoted as stating - I am quoting from The West Australian , so I will hope for the best - “Nuclear power is safe. It has been proven historically. You are exposed to twice as much radiation sleeping next to your partner than the radiation generated from a nuclear reactor.” Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, precisely. I look forward to returning home this evening! Mr C.J. Barnett : I often describe my wife as radiant! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I like that. We are planning for the future energy supplies of the state and I think our plans are well known and recognised, although some are controversial, but thankfully, in that element at least, with the 15 per cent domestic gas supply, we are supported by the opposition. We are grateful for that support. The state has abundant natural gas reserves and that is why we have support from the opposition. We have promoted the 15 per cent domestic gas reservation policy. Coal will continue to play a significant part in the state’s energy future. BP and Rio Tinto are investigating the application of clean coal technology - Dr J.M. Woollard : What are the targets going to be? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think I detect some emissions fouling the air in the chamber! We will be expanding the traditional renewable energy resources - wind and solar - and we will look at more innovative sources, such as geothermal, wave and biomass. We have made the announcement about the desalination plant providing a percentage of future energy supplies, as well as about non-traditional renewable energy sources. There will be more to say about that later on. There is one source of energy supply that we on this side of the chamber in Western Australia will not be pursuing, and it marks us very differently from our opponents. It is nuclear energy. We will not be pursuing the option of nuclear energy for Western Australia - not now and not in the term of this or the next government or thereafter. I watched with amazement the Prime Minister - cranky, in the job too long - Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He was frightening the worm; he was deterring the worm. I was awaiting his explanation of his vision of Australia’s nuclear future and, of course, he did not provide it. He has withdrawn from the rhetorical field because he knows that it is not popular electorally. We know that if he gets the chance - I think everybody in Australia knows - Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? Leader of the Opposition, do not be afraid to be heard when you interject. Mr P.D. Omodei : It is a bit like Rudd’s greenhouse gas targets - he does not know what they are either, does he? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I actually do not think that the pursuit of nuclear energy is anything like greenhouse gas targets, but there you go. The Prime Minister is now trying to create the impression, aided and abetted by some of his ministers, like Malcolm Turnbull, that nuclear energy is only now a possibility for Australia under their leadership. It was only a few months ago that he was promoting it as the answer to climate change. Once he had actually grappled with the idea that climate change was a reality, he then presented the solution as nuclear energy, with 25 potential sites around Australia, including right next to Kirribilli. We know that Dennis Jensen would be quite happy to have one in his electorate, and so would Barry Haase - he is happy to have one. Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : Don Randall wants one too. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They all want them; they all want nuclear power plants. Unfortunately for the Prime Minister, he is on the record over and over again, and he cannot run away from it. I look forward to seeing him respond to questions about this when he comes to Western Australia. I think he is coming tonight. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sure the member will not be. He will be trying to distance himself from the lot opposite. I think members opposite will find that. He will try to find out where they are all going so he can avoid them all. The Prime Minister, John Howard, has said over and over again that he believes that a significant part of Australia’s energy future must be nuclear power. That is the reality that the Australian people do understand and will understand when they go to consider their vote at the forthcoming federal election. That view is supported by many people of the opposition in this chamber. That will be another pointed distinction between us and our opponents when we go to the next state election. Member, it is one of the crazy ideas from the federal member for Tangney that we will not be pursuing or that will not influence us in our energy policy settings.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My God! Western Australia has cause to be afraid for its future! Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think Dr Jensen failed to explain his proposition in this article, but on 1 July 2006 - The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : -he is quoted as stating - I am quoting from The West Australian , so I will hope for the best - “Nuclear power is safe. It has been proven historically. You are exposed to twice as much radiation sleeping next to your partner than the radiation generated from a nuclear reactor.” Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, precisely. I look forward to returning home this evening! Mr C.J. Barnett : I often describe my wife as radiant! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I like that. We are planning for the future energy supplies of the state and I think our plans are well known and recognised, although some are controversial, but thankfully, in that element at least, with the 15 per cent domestic gas supply, we are supported by the opposition. We are grateful for that support. The state has abundant natural gas reserves and that is why we have support from the opposition. We have promoted the 15 per cent domestic gas reservation policy. Coal will continue to play a significant part in the state’s energy future. BP and Rio Tinto are investigating the application of clean coal technology - Dr J.M. Woollard : What are the targets going to be? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think I detect some emissions fouling the air in the chamber! We will be expanding the traditional renewable energy resources - wind and solar - and we will look at more innovative sources, such as geothermal, wave and biomass. We have made the announcement about the desalination plant providing a percentage of future energy supplies, as well as about non-traditional renewable energy sources. There will be more to say about that later on. There is one source of energy supply that we on this side of the chamber in Western Australia will not be pursuing, and it marks us very differently from our opponents. It is nuclear energy. We will not be pursuing the option of nuclear energy for Western Australia - not now and not in the term of this or the next government or thereafter. I watched with amazement the Prime Minister - cranky, in the job too long - Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He was frightening the worm; he was deterring the worm. I was awaiting his explanation of his vision of Australia’s nuclear future and, of course, he did not provide it. He has withdrawn from the rhetorical field because he knows that it is not popular electorally. We know that if he gets the chance - I think everybody in Australia knows - Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? Leader of the Opposition, do not be afraid to be heard when you interject. Mr P.D. Omodei : It is a bit like Rudd’s greenhouse gas targets - he does not know what they are either, does he? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I actually do not think that the pursuit of nuclear energy is anything like greenhouse gas targets, but there you go. The Prime Minister is now trying to create the impression, aided and abetted by some of his ministers, like Malcolm Turnbull, that nuclear energy is only now a possibility for Australia under their leadership. It was only a few months ago that he was promoting it as the answer to climate change. Once he had actually grappled with the idea that climate change was a reality, he then presented the solution as nuclear energy, with 25 potential sites around Australia, including right next to Kirribilli. We know that Dennis Jensen would be quite happy to have one in his electorate, and so would Barry Haase - he is happy to have one. Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : Don Randall wants one too. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They all want them; they all want nuclear power plants. Unfortunately for the Prime Minister, he is on the record over and over again, and he cannot run away from it. I look forward to seeing him respond to questions about this when he comes to Western Australia. I think he is coming tonight. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sure the member will not be. He will be trying to distance himself from the lot opposite. I think members opposite will find that. He will try to find out where they are all going so he can avoid them all. The Prime Minister, John Howard, has said over and over again that he believes that a significant part of Australia’s energy future must be nuclear power. That is the reality that the Australian people do understand and will understand when they go to consider their vote at the forthcoming federal election. That view is supported by many people of the opposition in this chamber. That will be another pointed distinction between us and our opponents when we go to the next state election. Member, it is one of the crazy ideas from the federal member for Tangney that we will not be pursuing or that will not influence us in our energy policy settings.
Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think Dr Jensen failed to explain his proposition in this article, but on 1 July 2006 - The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : -he is quoted as stating - I am quoting from The West Australian , so I will hope for the best - “Nuclear power is safe. It has been proven historically. You are exposed to twice as much radiation sleeping next to your partner than the radiation generated from a nuclear reactor.” Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, precisely. I look forward to returning home this evening! Mr C.J. Barnett : I often describe my wife as radiant! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I like that. We are planning for the future energy supplies of the state and I think our plans are well known and recognised, although some are controversial, but thankfully, in that element at least, with the 15 per cent domestic gas supply, we are supported by the opposition. We are grateful for that support. The state has abundant natural gas reserves and that is why we have support from the opposition. We have promoted the 15 per cent domestic gas reservation policy. Coal will continue to play a significant part in the state’s energy future. BP and Rio Tinto are investigating the application of clean coal technology - Dr J.M. Woollard : What are the targets going to be? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think I detect some emissions fouling the air in the chamber! We will be expanding the traditional renewable energy resources - wind and solar - and we will look at more innovative sources, such as geothermal, wave and biomass. We have made the announcement about the desalination plant providing a percentage of future energy supplies, as well as about non-traditional renewable energy sources. There will be more to say about that later on. There is one source of energy supply that we on this side of the chamber in Western Australia will not be pursuing, and it marks us very differently from our opponents. It is nuclear energy. We will not be pursuing the option of nuclear energy for Western Australia - not now and not in the term of this or the next government or thereafter. I watched with amazement the Prime Minister - cranky, in the job too long - Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He was frightening the worm; he was deterring the worm. I was awaiting his explanation of his vision of Australia’s nuclear future and, of course, he did not provide it. He has withdrawn from the rhetorical field because he knows that it is not popular electorally. We know that if he gets the chance - I think everybody in Australia knows - Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? Leader of the Opposition, do not be afraid to be heard when you interject. Mr P.D. Omodei : It is a bit like Rudd’s greenhouse gas targets - he does not know what they are either, does he? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I actually do not think that the pursuit of nuclear energy is anything like greenhouse gas targets, but there you go. The Prime Minister is now trying to create the impression, aided and abetted by some of his ministers, like Malcolm Turnbull, that nuclear energy is only now a possibility for Australia under their leadership. It was only a few months ago that he was promoting it as the answer to climate change. Once he had actually grappled with the idea that climate change was a reality, he then presented the solution as nuclear energy, with 25 potential sites around Australia, including right next to Kirribilli. We know that Dennis Jensen would be quite happy to have one in his electorate, and so would Barry Haase - he is happy to have one. Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : Don Randall wants one too. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They all want them; they all want nuclear power plants. Unfortunately for the Prime Minister, he is on the record over and over again, and he cannot run away from it. I look forward to seeing him respond to questions about this when he comes to Western Australia. I think he is coming tonight. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sure the member will not be. He will be trying to distance himself from the lot opposite. I think members opposite will find that. He will try to find out where they are all going so he can avoid them all. The Prime Minister, John Howard, has said over and over again that he believes that a significant part of Australia’s energy future must be nuclear power. That is the reality that the Australian people do understand and will understand when they go to consider their vote at the forthcoming federal election. That view is supported by many people of the opposition in this chamber. That will be another pointed distinction between us and our opponents when we go to the next state election. Member, it is one of the crazy ideas from the federal member for Tangney that we will not be pursuing or that will not influence us in our energy policy settings.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think Dr Jensen failed to explain his proposition in this article, but on 1 July 2006 - The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : -he is quoted as stating - I am quoting from The West Australian , so I will hope for the best - “Nuclear power is safe. It has been proven historically. You are exposed to twice as much radiation sleeping next to your partner than the radiation generated from a nuclear reactor.” Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, precisely. I look forward to returning home this evening! Mr C.J. Barnett : I often describe my wife as radiant! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I like that. We are planning for the future energy supplies of the state and I think our plans are well known and recognised, although some are controversial, but thankfully, in that element at least, with the 15 per cent domestic gas supply, we are supported by the opposition. We are grateful for that support. The state has abundant natural gas reserves and that is why we have support from the opposition. We have promoted the 15 per cent domestic gas reservation policy. Coal will continue to play a significant part in the state’s energy future. BP and Rio Tinto are investigating the application of clean coal technology - Dr J.M. Woollard : What are the targets going to be? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think I detect some emissions fouling the air in the chamber! We will be expanding the traditional renewable energy resources - wind and solar - and we will look at more innovative sources, such as geothermal, wave and biomass. We have made the announcement about the desalination plant providing a percentage of future energy supplies, as well as about non-traditional renewable energy sources. There will be more to say about that later on. There is one source of energy supply that we on this side of the chamber in Western Australia will not be pursuing, and it marks us very differently from our opponents. It is nuclear energy. We will not be pursuing the option of nuclear energy for Western Australia - not now and not in the term of this or the next government or thereafter. I watched with amazement the Prime Minister - cranky, in the job too long - Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He was frightening the worm; he was deterring the worm. I was awaiting his explanation of his vision of Australia’s nuclear future and, of course, he did not provide it. He has withdrawn from the rhetorical field because he knows that it is not popular electorally. We know that if he gets the chance - I think everybody in Australia knows - Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? Leader of the Opposition, do not be afraid to be heard when you interject. Mr P.D. Omodei : It is a bit like Rudd’s greenhouse gas targets - he does not know what they are either, does he? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I actually do not think that the pursuit of nuclear energy is anything like greenhouse gas targets, but there you go. The Prime Minister is now trying to create the impression, aided and abetted by some of his ministers, like Malcolm Turnbull, that nuclear energy is only now a possibility for Australia under their leadership. It was only a few months ago that he was promoting it as the answer to climate change. Once he had actually grappled with the idea that climate change was a reality, he then presented the solution as nuclear energy, with 25 potential sites around Australia, including right next to Kirribilli. We know that Dennis Jensen would be quite happy to have one in his electorate, and so would Barry Haase - he is happy to have one. Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : Don Randall wants one too. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They all want them; they all want nuclear power plants. Unfortunately for the Prime Minister, he is on the record over and over again, and he cannot run away from it. I look forward to seeing him respond to questions about this when he comes to Western Australia. I think he is coming tonight. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sure the member will not be. He will be trying to distance himself from the lot opposite. I think members opposite will find that. He will try to find out where they are all going so he can avoid them all. The Prime Minister, John Howard, has said over and over again that he believes that a significant part of Australia’s energy future must be nuclear power. That is the reality that the Australian people do understand and will understand when they go to consider their vote at the forthcoming federal election. That view is supported by many people of the opposition in this chamber. That will be another pointed distinction between us and our opponents when we go to the next state election. Member, it is one of the crazy ideas from the federal member for Tangney that we will not be pursuing or that will not influence us in our energy policy settings.
The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : -he is quoted as stating - I am quoting from The West Australian , so I will hope for the best - “Nuclear power is safe. It has been proven historically. You are exposed to twice as much radiation sleeping next to your partner than the radiation generated from a nuclear reactor.” Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, precisely. I look forward to returning home this evening! Mr C.J. Barnett : I often describe my wife as radiant! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I like that. We are planning for the future energy supplies of the state and I think our plans are well known and recognised, although some are controversial, but thankfully, in that element at least, with the 15 per cent domestic gas supply, we are supported by the opposition. We are grateful for that support. The state has abundant natural gas reserves and that is why we have support from the opposition. We have promoted the 15 per cent domestic gas reservation policy. Coal will continue to play a significant part in the state’s energy future. BP and Rio Tinto are investigating the application of clean coal technology - Dr J.M. Woollard : What are the targets going to be? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think I detect some emissions fouling the air in the chamber! We will be expanding the traditional renewable energy resources - wind and solar - and we will look at more innovative sources, such as geothermal, wave and biomass. We have made the announcement about the desalination plant providing a percentage of future energy supplies, as well as about non-traditional renewable energy sources. There will be more to say about that later on. There is one source of energy supply that we on this side of the chamber in Western Australia will not be pursuing, and it marks us very differently from our opponents. It is nuclear energy. We will not be pursuing the option of nuclear energy for Western Australia - not now and not in the term of this or the next government or thereafter. I watched with amazement the Prime Minister - cranky, in the job too long - Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He was frightening the worm; he was deterring the worm. I was awaiting his explanation of his vision of Australia’s nuclear future and, of course, he did not provide it. He has withdrawn from the rhetorical field because he knows that it is not popular electorally. We know that if he gets the chance - I think everybody in Australia knows - Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? Leader of the Opposition, do not be afraid to be heard when you interject. Mr P.D. Omodei : It is a bit like Rudd’s greenhouse gas targets - he does not know what they are either, does he? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I actually do not think that the pursuit of nuclear energy is anything like greenhouse gas targets, but there you go. The Prime Minister is now trying to create the impression, aided and abetted by some of his ministers, like Malcolm Turnbull, that nuclear energy is only now a possibility for Australia under their leadership. It was only a few months ago that he was promoting it as the answer to climate change. Once he had actually grappled with the idea that climate change was a reality, he then presented the solution as nuclear energy, with 25 potential sites around Australia, including right next to Kirribilli. We know that Dennis Jensen would be quite happy to have one in his electorate, and so would Barry Haase - he is happy to have one. Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : Don Randall wants one too. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They all want them; they all want nuclear power plants. Unfortunately for the Prime Minister, he is on the record over and over again, and he cannot run away from it. I look forward to seeing him respond to questions about this when he comes to Western Australia. I think he is coming tonight. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sure the member will not be. He will be trying to distance himself from the lot opposite. I think members opposite will find that. He will try to find out where they are all going so he can avoid them all. The Prime Minister, John Howard, has said over and over again that he believes that a significant part of Australia’s energy future must be nuclear power. That is the reality that the Australian people do understand and will understand when they go to consider their vote at the forthcoming federal election. That view is supported by many people of the opposition in this chamber. That will be another pointed distinction between us and our opponents when we go to the next state election. Member, it is one of the crazy ideas from the federal member for Tangney that we will not be pursuing or that will not influence us in our energy policy settings.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : -he is quoted as stating - I am quoting from The West Australian , so I will hope for the best - “Nuclear power is safe. It has been proven historically. You are exposed to twice as much radiation sleeping next to your partner than the radiation generated from a nuclear reactor.” Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, precisely. I look forward to returning home this evening! Mr C.J. Barnett : I often describe my wife as radiant! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I like that. We are planning for the future energy supplies of the state and I think our plans are well known and recognised, although some are controversial, but thankfully, in that element at least, with the 15 per cent domestic gas supply, we are supported by the opposition. We are grateful for that support. The state has abundant natural gas reserves and that is why we have support from the opposition. We have promoted the 15 per cent domestic gas reservation policy. Coal will continue to play a significant part in the state’s energy future. BP and Rio Tinto are investigating the application of clean coal technology - Dr J.M. Woollard : What are the targets going to be? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think I detect some emissions fouling the air in the chamber! We will be expanding the traditional renewable energy resources - wind and solar - and we will look at more innovative sources, such as geothermal, wave and biomass. We have made the announcement about the desalination plant providing a percentage of future energy supplies, as well as about non-traditional renewable energy sources. There will be more to say about that later on. There is one source of energy supply that we on this side of the chamber in Western Australia will not be pursuing, and it marks us very differently from our opponents. It is nuclear energy. We will not be pursuing the option of nuclear energy for Western Australia - not now and not in the term of this or the next government or thereafter. I watched with amazement the Prime Minister - cranky, in the job too long - Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He was frightening the worm; he was deterring the worm. I was awaiting his explanation of his vision of Australia’s nuclear future and, of course, he did not provide it. He has withdrawn from the rhetorical field because he knows that it is not popular electorally. We know that if he gets the chance - I think everybody in Australia knows - Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? Leader of the Opposition, do not be afraid to be heard when you interject. Mr P.D. Omodei : It is a bit like Rudd’s greenhouse gas targets - he does not know what they are either, does he? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I actually do not think that the pursuit of nuclear energy is anything like greenhouse gas targets, but there you go. The Prime Minister is now trying to create the impression, aided and abetted by some of his ministers, like Malcolm Turnbull, that nuclear energy is only now a possibility for Australia under their leadership. It was only a few months ago that he was promoting it as the answer to climate change. Once he had actually grappled with the idea that climate change was a reality, he then presented the solution as nuclear energy, with 25 potential sites around Australia, including right next to Kirribilli. We know that Dennis Jensen would be quite happy to have one in his electorate, and so would Barry Haase - he is happy to have one. Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : Don Randall wants one too. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They all want them; they all want nuclear power plants. Unfortunately for the Prime Minister, he is on the record over and over again, and he cannot run away from it. I look forward to seeing him respond to questions about this when he comes to Western Australia. I think he is coming tonight. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sure the member will not be. He will be trying to distance himself from the lot opposite. I think members opposite will find that. He will try to find out where they are all going so he can avoid them all. The Prime Minister, John Howard, has said over and over again that he believes that a significant part of Australia’s energy future must be nuclear power. That is the reality that the Australian people do understand and will understand when they go to consider their vote at the forthcoming federal election. That view is supported by many people of the opposition in this chamber. That will be another pointed distinction between us and our opponents when we go to the next state election. Member, it is one of the crazy ideas from the federal member for Tangney that we will not be pursuing or that will not influence us in our energy policy settings.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, precisely. I look forward to returning home this evening! Mr C.J. Barnett : I often describe my wife as radiant! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I like that. We are planning for the future energy supplies of the state and I think our plans are well known and recognised, although some are controversial, but thankfully, in that element at least, with the 15 per cent domestic gas supply, we are supported by the opposition. We are grateful for that support. The state has abundant natural gas reserves and that is why we have support from the opposition. We have promoted the 15 per cent domestic gas reservation policy. Coal will continue to play a significant part in the state’s energy future. BP and Rio Tinto are investigating the application of clean coal technology - Dr J.M. Woollard : What are the targets going to be? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think I detect some emissions fouling the air in the chamber! We will be expanding the traditional renewable energy resources - wind and solar - and we will look at more innovative sources, such as geothermal, wave and biomass. We have made the announcement about the desalination plant providing a percentage of future energy supplies, as well as about non-traditional renewable energy sources. There will be more to say about that later on. There is one source of energy supply that we on this side of the chamber in Western Australia will not be pursuing, and it marks us very differently from our opponents. It is nuclear energy. We will not be pursuing the option of nuclear energy for Western Australia - not now and not in the term of this or the next government or thereafter. I watched with amazement the Prime Minister - cranky, in the job too long - Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He was frightening the worm; he was deterring the worm. I was awaiting his explanation of his vision of Australia’s nuclear future and, of course, he did not provide it. He has withdrawn from the rhetorical field because he knows that it is not popular electorally. We know that if he gets the chance - I think everybody in Australia knows - Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? Leader of the Opposition, do not be afraid to be heard when you interject. Mr P.D. Omodei : It is a bit like Rudd’s greenhouse gas targets - he does not know what they are either, does he? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I actually do not think that the pursuit of nuclear energy is anything like greenhouse gas targets, but there you go. The Prime Minister is now trying to create the impression, aided and abetted by some of his ministers, like Malcolm Turnbull, that nuclear energy is only now a possibility for Australia under their leadership. It was only a few months ago that he was promoting it as the answer to climate change. Once he had actually grappled with the idea that climate change was a reality, he then presented the solution as nuclear energy, with 25 potential sites around Australia, including right next to Kirribilli. We know that Dennis Jensen would be quite happy to have one in his electorate, and so would Barry Haase - he is happy to have one. Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : Don Randall wants one too. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They all want them; they all want nuclear power plants. Unfortunately for the Prime Minister, he is on the record over and over again, and he cannot run away from it. I look forward to seeing him respond to questions about this when he comes to Western Australia. I think he is coming tonight. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sure the member will not be. He will be trying to distance himself from the lot opposite. I think members opposite will find that. He will try to find out where they are all going so he can avoid them all. The Prime Minister, John Howard, has said over and over again that he believes that a significant part of Australia’s energy future must be nuclear power. That is the reality that the Australian people do understand and will understand when they go to consider their vote at the forthcoming federal election. That view is supported by many people of the opposition in this chamber. That will be another pointed distinction between us and our opponents when we go to the next state election. Member, it is one of the crazy ideas from the federal member for Tangney that we will not be pursuing or that will not influence us in our energy policy settings.
Mr C.J. Barnett : I often describe my wife as radiant! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I like that. We are planning for the future energy supplies of the state and I think our plans are well known and recognised, although some are controversial, but thankfully, in that element at least, with the 15 per cent domestic gas supply, we are supported by the opposition. We are grateful for that support. The state has abundant natural gas reserves and that is why we have support from the opposition. We have promoted the 15 per cent domestic gas reservation policy. Coal will continue to play a significant part in the state’s energy future. BP and Rio Tinto are investigating the application of clean coal technology - Dr J.M. Woollard : What are the targets going to be? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think I detect some emissions fouling the air in the chamber! We will be expanding the traditional renewable energy resources - wind and solar - and we will look at more innovative sources, such as geothermal, wave and biomass. We have made the announcement about the desalination plant providing a percentage of future energy supplies, as well as about non-traditional renewable energy sources. There will be more to say about that later on. There is one source of energy supply that we on this side of the chamber in Western Australia will not be pursuing, and it marks us very differently from our opponents. It is nuclear energy. We will not be pursuing the option of nuclear energy for Western Australia - not now and not in the term of this or the next government or thereafter. I watched with amazement the Prime Minister - cranky, in the job too long - Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He was frightening the worm; he was deterring the worm. I was awaiting his explanation of his vision of Australia’s nuclear future and, of course, he did not provide it. He has withdrawn from the rhetorical field because he knows that it is not popular electorally. We know that if he gets the chance - I think everybody in Australia knows - Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? Leader of the Opposition, do not be afraid to be heard when you interject. Mr P.D. Omodei : It is a bit like Rudd’s greenhouse gas targets - he does not know what they are either, does he? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I actually do not think that the pursuit of nuclear energy is anything like greenhouse gas targets, but there you go. The Prime Minister is now trying to create the impression, aided and abetted by some of his ministers, like Malcolm Turnbull, that nuclear energy is only now a possibility for Australia under their leadership. It was only a few months ago that he was promoting it as the answer to climate change. Once he had actually grappled with the idea that climate change was a reality, he then presented the solution as nuclear energy, with 25 potential sites around Australia, including right next to Kirribilli. We know that Dennis Jensen would be quite happy to have one in his electorate, and so would Barry Haase - he is happy to have one. Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : Don Randall wants one too. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They all want them; they all want nuclear power plants. Unfortunately for the Prime Minister, he is on the record over and over again, and he cannot run away from it. I look forward to seeing him respond to questions about this when he comes to Western Australia. I think he is coming tonight. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sure the member will not be. He will be trying to distance himself from the lot opposite. I think members opposite will find that. He will try to find out where they are all going so he can avoid them all. The Prime Minister, John Howard, has said over and over again that he believes that a significant part of Australia’s energy future must be nuclear power. That is the reality that the Australian people do understand and will understand when they go to consider their vote at the forthcoming federal election. That view is supported by many people of the opposition in this chamber. That will be another pointed distinction between us and our opponents when we go to the next state election. Member, it is one of the crazy ideas from the federal member for Tangney that we will not be pursuing or that will not influence us in our energy policy settings.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I like that. We are planning for the future energy supplies of the state and I think our plans are well known and recognised, although some are controversial, but thankfully, in that element at least, with the 15 per cent domestic gas supply, we are supported by the opposition. We are grateful for that support. The state has abundant natural gas reserves and that is why we have support from the opposition. We have promoted the 15 per cent domestic gas reservation policy. Coal will continue to play a significant part in the state’s energy future. BP and Rio Tinto are investigating the application of clean coal technology - Dr J.M. Woollard : What are the targets going to be? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think I detect some emissions fouling the air in the chamber! We will be expanding the traditional renewable energy resources - wind and solar - and we will look at more innovative sources, such as geothermal, wave and biomass. We have made the announcement about the desalination plant providing a percentage of future energy supplies, as well as about non-traditional renewable energy sources. There will be more to say about that later on. There is one source of energy supply that we on this side of the chamber in Western Australia will not be pursuing, and it marks us very differently from our opponents. It is nuclear energy. We will not be pursuing the option of nuclear energy for Western Australia - not now and not in the term of this or the next government or thereafter. I watched with amazement the Prime Minister - cranky, in the job too long - Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He was frightening the worm; he was deterring the worm. I was awaiting his explanation of his vision of Australia’s nuclear future and, of course, he did not provide it. He has withdrawn from the rhetorical field because he knows that it is not popular electorally. We know that if he gets the chance - I think everybody in Australia knows - Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? Leader of the Opposition, do not be afraid to be heard when you interject. Mr P.D. Omodei : It is a bit like Rudd’s greenhouse gas targets - he does not know what they are either, does he? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I actually do not think that the pursuit of nuclear energy is anything like greenhouse gas targets, but there you go. The Prime Minister is now trying to create the impression, aided and abetted by some of his ministers, like Malcolm Turnbull, that nuclear energy is only now a possibility for Australia under their leadership. It was only a few months ago that he was promoting it as the answer to climate change. Once he had actually grappled with the idea that climate change was a reality, he then presented the solution as nuclear energy, with 25 potential sites around Australia, including right next to Kirribilli. We know that Dennis Jensen would be quite happy to have one in his electorate, and so would Barry Haase - he is happy to have one. Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : Don Randall wants one too. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They all want them; they all want nuclear power plants. Unfortunately for the Prime Minister, he is on the record over and over again, and he cannot run away from it. I look forward to seeing him respond to questions about this when he comes to Western Australia. I think he is coming tonight. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sure the member will not be. He will be trying to distance himself from the lot opposite. I think members opposite will find that. He will try to find out where they are all going so he can avoid them all. The Prime Minister, John Howard, has said over and over again that he believes that a significant part of Australia’s energy future must be nuclear power. That is the reality that the Australian people do understand and will understand when they go to consider their vote at the forthcoming federal election. That view is supported by many people of the opposition in this chamber. That will be another pointed distinction between us and our opponents when we go to the next state election. Member, it is one of the crazy ideas from the federal member for Tangney that we will not be pursuing or that will not influence us in our energy policy settings.
Dr J.M. Woollard : What are the targets going to be? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think I detect some emissions fouling the air in the chamber! We will be expanding the traditional renewable energy resources - wind and solar - and we will look at more innovative sources, such as geothermal, wave and biomass. We have made the announcement about the desalination plant providing a percentage of future energy supplies, as well as about non-traditional renewable energy sources. There will be more to say about that later on. There is one source of energy supply that we on this side of the chamber in Western Australia will not be pursuing, and it marks us very differently from our opponents. It is nuclear energy. We will not be pursuing the option of nuclear energy for Western Australia - not now and not in the term of this or the next government or thereafter. I watched with amazement the Prime Minister - cranky, in the job too long - Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He was frightening the worm; he was deterring the worm. I was awaiting his explanation of his vision of Australia’s nuclear future and, of course, he did not provide it. He has withdrawn from the rhetorical field because he knows that it is not popular electorally. We know that if he gets the chance - I think everybody in Australia knows - Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? Leader of the Opposition, do not be afraid to be heard when you interject. Mr P.D. Omodei : It is a bit like Rudd’s greenhouse gas targets - he does not know what they are either, does he? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I actually do not think that the pursuit of nuclear energy is anything like greenhouse gas targets, but there you go. The Prime Minister is now trying to create the impression, aided and abetted by some of his ministers, like Malcolm Turnbull, that nuclear energy is only now a possibility for Australia under their leadership. It was only a few months ago that he was promoting it as the answer to climate change. Once he had actually grappled with the idea that climate change was a reality, he then presented the solution as nuclear energy, with 25 potential sites around Australia, including right next to Kirribilli. We know that Dennis Jensen would be quite happy to have one in his electorate, and so would Barry Haase - he is happy to have one. Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : Don Randall wants one too. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They all want them; they all want nuclear power plants. Unfortunately for the Prime Minister, he is on the record over and over again, and he cannot run away from it. I look forward to seeing him respond to questions about this when he comes to Western Australia. I think he is coming tonight. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sure the member will not be. He will be trying to distance himself from the lot opposite. I think members opposite will find that. He will try to find out where they are all going so he can avoid them all. The Prime Minister, John Howard, has said over and over again that he believes that a significant part of Australia’s energy future must be nuclear power. That is the reality that the Australian people do understand and will understand when they go to consider their vote at the forthcoming federal election. That view is supported by many people of the opposition in this chamber. That will be another pointed distinction between us and our opponents when we go to the next state election. Member, it is one of the crazy ideas from the federal member for Tangney that we will not be pursuing or that will not influence us in our energy policy settings.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think I detect some emissions fouling the air in the chamber! We will be expanding the traditional renewable energy resources - wind and solar - and we will look at more innovative sources, such as geothermal, wave and biomass. We have made the announcement about the desalination plant providing a percentage of future energy supplies, as well as about non-traditional renewable energy sources. There will be more to say about that later on. There is one source of energy supply that we on this side of the chamber in Western Australia will not be pursuing, and it marks us very differently from our opponents. It is nuclear energy. We will not be pursuing the option of nuclear energy for Western Australia - not now and not in the term of this or the next government or thereafter. I watched with amazement the Prime Minister - cranky, in the job too long - Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He was frightening the worm; he was deterring the worm. I was awaiting his explanation of his vision of Australia’s nuclear future and, of course, he did not provide it. He has withdrawn from the rhetorical field because he knows that it is not popular electorally. We know that if he gets the chance - I think everybody in Australia knows - Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? Leader of the Opposition, do not be afraid to be heard when you interject. Mr P.D. Omodei : It is a bit like Rudd’s greenhouse gas targets - he does not know what they are either, does he? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I actually do not think that the pursuit of nuclear energy is anything like greenhouse gas targets, but there you go. The Prime Minister is now trying to create the impression, aided and abetted by some of his ministers, like Malcolm Turnbull, that nuclear energy is only now a possibility for Australia under their leadership. It was only a few months ago that he was promoting it as the answer to climate change. Once he had actually grappled with the idea that climate change was a reality, he then presented the solution as nuclear energy, with 25 potential sites around Australia, including right next to Kirribilli. We know that Dennis Jensen would be quite happy to have one in his electorate, and so would Barry Haase - he is happy to have one. Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : Don Randall wants one too. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They all want them; they all want nuclear power plants. Unfortunately for the Prime Minister, he is on the record over and over again, and he cannot run away from it. I look forward to seeing him respond to questions about this when he comes to Western Australia. I think he is coming tonight. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sure the member will not be. He will be trying to distance himself from the lot opposite. I think members opposite will find that. He will try to find out where they are all going so he can avoid them all. The Prime Minister, John Howard, has said over and over again that he believes that a significant part of Australia’s energy future must be nuclear power. That is the reality that the Australian people do understand and will understand when they go to consider their vote at the forthcoming federal election. That view is supported by many people of the opposition in this chamber. That will be another pointed distinction between us and our opponents when we go to the next state election. Member, it is one of the crazy ideas from the federal member for Tangney that we will not be pursuing or that will not influence us in our energy policy settings.
There is one source of energy supply that we on this side of the chamber in Western Australia will not be pursuing, and it marks us very differently from our opponents. It is nuclear energy. We will not be pursuing the option of nuclear energy for Western Australia - not now and not in the term of this or the next government or thereafter. I watched with amazement the Prime Minister - cranky, in the job too long - Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He was frightening the worm; he was deterring the worm. I was awaiting his explanation of his vision of Australia’s nuclear future and, of course, he did not provide it. He has withdrawn from the rhetorical field because he knows that it is not popular electorally. We know that if he gets the chance - I think everybody in Australia knows - Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? Leader of the Opposition, do not be afraid to be heard when you interject. Mr P.D. Omodei : It is a bit like Rudd’s greenhouse gas targets - he does not know what they are either, does he? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I actually do not think that the pursuit of nuclear energy is anything like greenhouse gas targets, but there you go. The Prime Minister is now trying to create the impression, aided and abetted by some of his ministers, like Malcolm Turnbull, that nuclear energy is only now a possibility for Australia under their leadership. It was only a few months ago that he was promoting it as the answer to climate change. Once he had actually grappled with the idea that climate change was a reality, he then presented the solution as nuclear energy, with 25 potential sites around Australia, including right next to Kirribilli. We know that Dennis Jensen would be quite happy to have one in his electorate, and so would Barry Haase - he is happy to have one. Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : Don Randall wants one too. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They all want them; they all want nuclear power plants. Unfortunately for the Prime Minister, he is on the record over and over again, and he cannot run away from it. I look forward to seeing him respond to questions about this when he comes to Western Australia. I think he is coming tonight. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sure the member will not be. He will be trying to distance himself from the lot opposite. I think members opposite will find that. He will try to find out where they are all going so he can avoid them all. The Prime Minister, John Howard, has said over and over again that he believes that a significant part of Australia’s energy future must be nuclear power. That is the reality that the Australian people do understand and will understand when they go to consider their vote at the forthcoming federal election. That view is supported by many people of the opposition in this chamber. That will be another pointed distinction between us and our opponents when we go to the next state election. Member, it is one of the crazy ideas from the federal member for Tangney that we will not be pursuing or that will not influence us in our energy policy settings.
Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He was frightening the worm; he was deterring the worm. I was awaiting his explanation of his vision of Australia’s nuclear future and, of course, he did not provide it. He has withdrawn from the rhetorical field because he knows that it is not popular electorally. We know that if he gets the chance - I think everybody in Australia knows - Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? Leader of the Opposition, do not be afraid to be heard when you interject. Mr P.D. Omodei : It is a bit like Rudd’s greenhouse gas targets - he does not know what they are either, does he? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I actually do not think that the pursuit of nuclear energy is anything like greenhouse gas targets, but there you go. The Prime Minister is now trying to create the impression, aided and abetted by some of his ministers, like Malcolm Turnbull, that nuclear energy is only now a possibility for Australia under their leadership. It was only a few months ago that he was promoting it as the answer to climate change. Once he had actually grappled with the idea that climate change was a reality, he then presented the solution as nuclear energy, with 25 potential sites around Australia, including right next to Kirribilli. We know that Dennis Jensen would be quite happy to have one in his electorate, and so would Barry Haase - he is happy to have one. Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : Don Randall wants one too. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They all want them; they all want nuclear power plants. Unfortunately for the Prime Minister, he is on the record over and over again, and he cannot run away from it. I look forward to seeing him respond to questions about this when he comes to Western Australia. I think he is coming tonight. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sure the member will not be. He will be trying to distance himself from the lot opposite. I think members opposite will find that. He will try to find out where they are all going so he can avoid them all. The Prime Minister, John Howard, has said over and over again that he believes that a significant part of Australia’s energy future must be nuclear power. That is the reality that the Australian people do understand and will understand when they go to consider their vote at the forthcoming federal election. That view is supported by many people of the opposition in this chamber. That will be another pointed distinction between us and our opponents when we go to the next state election. Member, it is one of the crazy ideas from the federal member for Tangney that we will not be pursuing or that will not influence us in our energy policy settings.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He was frightening the worm; he was deterring the worm. I was awaiting his explanation of his vision of Australia’s nuclear future and, of course, he did not provide it. He has withdrawn from the rhetorical field because he knows that it is not popular electorally. We know that if he gets the chance - I think everybody in Australia knows - Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? Leader of the Opposition, do not be afraid to be heard when you interject. Mr P.D. Omodei : It is a bit like Rudd’s greenhouse gas targets - he does not know what they are either, does he? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I actually do not think that the pursuit of nuclear energy is anything like greenhouse gas targets, but there you go. The Prime Minister is now trying to create the impression, aided and abetted by some of his ministers, like Malcolm Turnbull, that nuclear energy is only now a possibility for Australia under their leadership. It was only a few months ago that he was promoting it as the answer to climate change. Once he had actually grappled with the idea that climate change was a reality, he then presented the solution as nuclear energy, with 25 potential sites around Australia, including right next to Kirribilli. We know that Dennis Jensen would be quite happy to have one in his electorate, and so would Barry Haase - he is happy to have one. Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : Don Randall wants one too. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They all want them; they all want nuclear power plants. Unfortunately for the Prime Minister, he is on the record over and over again, and he cannot run away from it. I look forward to seeing him respond to questions about this when he comes to Western Australia. I think he is coming tonight. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sure the member will not be. He will be trying to distance himself from the lot opposite. I think members opposite will find that. He will try to find out where they are all going so he can avoid them all. The Prime Minister, John Howard, has said over and over again that he believes that a significant part of Australia’s energy future must be nuclear power. That is the reality that the Australian people do understand and will understand when they go to consider their vote at the forthcoming federal election. That view is supported by many people of the opposition in this chamber. That will be another pointed distinction between us and our opponents when we go to the next state election. Member, it is one of the crazy ideas from the federal member for Tangney that we will not be pursuing or that will not influence us in our energy policy settings.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He was frightening the worm; he was deterring the worm. I was awaiting his explanation of his vision of Australia’s nuclear future and, of course, he did not provide it. He has withdrawn from the rhetorical field because he knows that it is not popular electorally. We know that if he gets the chance - I think everybody in Australia knows - Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? Leader of the Opposition, do not be afraid to be heard when you interject. Mr P.D. Omodei : It is a bit like Rudd’s greenhouse gas targets - he does not know what they are either, does he? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I actually do not think that the pursuit of nuclear energy is anything like greenhouse gas targets, but there you go. The Prime Minister is now trying to create the impression, aided and abetted by some of his ministers, like Malcolm Turnbull, that nuclear energy is only now a possibility for Australia under their leadership. It was only a few months ago that he was promoting it as the answer to climate change. Once he had actually grappled with the idea that climate change was a reality, he then presented the solution as nuclear energy, with 25 potential sites around Australia, including right next to Kirribilli. We know that Dennis Jensen would be quite happy to have one in his electorate, and so would Barry Haase - he is happy to have one. Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : Don Randall wants one too. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They all want them; they all want nuclear power plants. Unfortunately for the Prime Minister, he is on the record over and over again, and he cannot run away from it. I look forward to seeing him respond to questions about this when he comes to Western Australia. I think he is coming tonight. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sure the member will not be. He will be trying to distance himself from the lot opposite. I think members opposite will find that. He will try to find out where they are all going so he can avoid them all. The Prime Minister, John Howard, has said over and over again that he believes that a significant part of Australia’s energy future must be nuclear power. That is the reality that the Australian people do understand and will understand when they go to consider their vote at the forthcoming federal election. That view is supported by many people of the opposition in this chamber. That will be another pointed distinction between us and our opponents when we go to the next state election. Member, it is one of the crazy ideas from the federal member for Tangney that we will not be pursuing or that will not influence us in our energy policy settings.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He was frightening the worm; he was deterring the worm. I was awaiting his explanation of his vision of Australia’s nuclear future and, of course, he did not provide it. He has withdrawn from the rhetorical field because he knows that it is not popular electorally. We know that if he gets the chance - I think everybody in Australia knows - Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? Leader of the Opposition, do not be afraid to be heard when you interject. Mr P.D. Omodei : It is a bit like Rudd’s greenhouse gas targets - he does not know what they are either, does he? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I actually do not think that the pursuit of nuclear energy is anything like greenhouse gas targets, but there you go. The Prime Minister is now trying to create the impression, aided and abetted by some of his ministers, like Malcolm Turnbull, that nuclear energy is only now a possibility for Australia under their leadership. It was only a few months ago that he was promoting it as the answer to climate change. Once he had actually grappled with the idea that climate change was a reality, he then presented the solution as nuclear energy, with 25 potential sites around Australia, including right next to Kirribilli. We know that Dennis Jensen would be quite happy to have one in his electorate, and so would Barry Haase - he is happy to have one. Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : Don Randall wants one too. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They all want them; they all want nuclear power plants. Unfortunately for the Prime Minister, he is on the record over and over again, and he cannot run away from it. I look forward to seeing him respond to questions about this when he comes to Western Australia. I think he is coming tonight. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sure the member will not be. He will be trying to distance himself from the lot opposite. I think members opposite will find that. He will try to find out where they are all going so he can avoid them all. The Prime Minister, John Howard, has said over and over again that he believes that a significant part of Australia’s energy future must be nuclear power. That is the reality that the Australian people do understand and will understand when they go to consider their vote at the forthcoming federal election. That view is supported by many people of the opposition in this chamber. That will be another pointed distinction between us and our opponents when we go to the next state election. Member, it is one of the crazy ideas from the federal member for Tangney that we will not be pursuing or that will not influence us in our energy policy settings.
Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? Leader of the Opposition, do not be afraid to be heard when you interject. Mr P.D. Omodei : It is a bit like Rudd’s greenhouse gas targets - he does not know what they are either, does he? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I actually do not think that the pursuit of nuclear energy is anything like greenhouse gas targets, but there you go. The Prime Minister is now trying to create the impression, aided and abetted by some of his ministers, like Malcolm Turnbull, that nuclear energy is only now a possibility for Australia under their leadership. It was only a few months ago that he was promoting it as the answer to climate change. Once he had actually grappled with the idea that climate change was a reality, he then presented the solution as nuclear energy, with 25 potential sites around Australia, including right next to Kirribilli. We know that Dennis Jensen would be quite happy to have one in his electorate, and so would Barry Haase - he is happy to have one. Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : Don Randall wants one too. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They all want them; they all want nuclear power plants. Unfortunately for the Prime Minister, he is on the record over and over again, and he cannot run away from it. I look forward to seeing him respond to questions about this when he comes to Western Australia. I think he is coming tonight. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sure the member will not be. He will be trying to distance himself from the lot opposite. I think members opposite will find that. He will try to find out where they are all going so he can avoid them all. The Prime Minister, John Howard, has said over and over again that he believes that a significant part of Australia’s energy future must be nuclear power. That is the reality that the Australian people do understand and will understand when they go to consider their vote at the forthcoming federal election. That view is supported by many people of the opposition in this chamber. That will be another pointed distinction between us and our opponents when we go to the next state election. Member, it is one of the crazy ideas from the federal member for Tangney that we will not be pursuing or that will not influence us in our energy policy settings.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What was that? Leader of the Opposition, do not be afraid to be heard when you interject. Mr P.D. Omodei : It is a bit like Rudd’s greenhouse gas targets - he does not know what they are either, does he? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I actually do not think that the pursuit of nuclear energy is anything like greenhouse gas targets, but there you go. The Prime Minister is now trying to create the impression, aided and abetted by some of his ministers, like Malcolm Turnbull, that nuclear energy is only now a possibility for Australia under their leadership. It was only a few months ago that he was promoting it as the answer to climate change. Once he had actually grappled with the idea that climate change was a reality, he then presented the solution as nuclear energy, with 25 potential sites around Australia, including right next to Kirribilli. We know that Dennis Jensen would be quite happy to have one in his electorate, and so would Barry Haase - he is happy to have one. Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : Don Randall wants one too. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They all want them; they all want nuclear power plants. Unfortunately for the Prime Minister, he is on the record over and over again, and he cannot run away from it. I look forward to seeing him respond to questions about this when he comes to Western Australia. I think he is coming tonight. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sure the member will not be. He will be trying to distance himself from the lot opposite. I think members opposite will find that. He will try to find out where they are all going so he can avoid them all. The Prime Minister, John Howard, has said over and over again that he believes that a significant part of Australia’s energy future must be nuclear power. That is the reality that the Australian people do understand and will understand when they go to consider their vote at the forthcoming federal election. That view is supported by many people of the opposition in this chamber. That will be another pointed distinction between us and our opponents when we go to the next state election. Member, it is one of the crazy ideas from the federal member for Tangney that we will not be pursuing or that will not influence us in our energy policy settings.
Mr P.D. Omodei : It is a bit like Rudd’s greenhouse gas targets - he does not know what they are either, does he? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I actually do not think that the pursuit of nuclear energy is anything like greenhouse gas targets, but there you go. The Prime Minister is now trying to create the impression, aided and abetted by some of his ministers, like Malcolm Turnbull, that nuclear energy is only now a possibility for Australia under their leadership. It was only a few months ago that he was promoting it as the answer to climate change. Once he had actually grappled with the idea that climate change was a reality, he then presented the solution as nuclear energy, with 25 potential sites around Australia, including right next to Kirribilli. We know that Dennis Jensen would be quite happy to have one in his electorate, and so would Barry Haase - he is happy to have one. Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : Don Randall wants one too. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They all want them; they all want nuclear power plants. Unfortunately for the Prime Minister, he is on the record over and over again, and he cannot run away from it. I look forward to seeing him respond to questions about this when he comes to Western Australia. I think he is coming tonight. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sure the member will not be. He will be trying to distance himself from the lot opposite. I think members opposite will find that. He will try to find out where they are all going so he can avoid them all. The Prime Minister, John Howard, has said over and over again that he believes that a significant part of Australia’s energy future must be nuclear power. That is the reality that the Australian people do understand and will understand when they go to consider their vote at the forthcoming federal election. That view is supported by many people of the opposition in this chamber. That will be another pointed distinction between us and our opponents when we go to the next state election. Member, it is one of the crazy ideas from the federal member for Tangney that we will not be pursuing or that will not influence us in our energy policy settings.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I actually do not think that the pursuit of nuclear energy is anything like greenhouse gas targets, but there you go. The Prime Minister is now trying to create the impression, aided and abetted by some of his ministers, like Malcolm Turnbull, that nuclear energy is only now a possibility for Australia under their leadership. It was only a few months ago that he was promoting it as the answer to climate change. Once he had actually grappled with the idea that climate change was a reality, he then presented the solution as nuclear energy, with 25 potential sites around Australia, including right next to Kirribilli. We know that Dennis Jensen would be quite happy to have one in his electorate, and so would Barry Haase - he is happy to have one. Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : Don Randall wants one too. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They all want them; they all want nuclear power plants. Unfortunately for the Prime Minister, he is on the record over and over again, and he cannot run away from it. I look forward to seeing him respond to questions about this when he comes to Western Australia. I think he is coming tonight. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sure the member will not be. He will be trying to distance himself from the lot opposite. I think members opposite will find that. He will try to find out where they are all going so he can avoid them all. The Prime Minister, John Howard, has said over and over again that he believes that a significant part of Australia’s energy future must be nuclear power. That is the reality that the Australian people do understand and will understand when they go to consider their vote at the forthcoming federal election. That view is supported by many people of the opposition in this chamber. That will be another pointed distinction between us and our opponents when we go to the next state election. Member, it is one of the crazy ideas from the federal member for Tangney that we will not be pursuing or that will not influence us in our energy policy settings.
The Prime Minister is now trying to create the impression, aided and abetted by some of his ministers, like Malcolm Turnbull, that nuclear energy is only now a possibility for Australia under their leadership. It was only a few months ago that he was promoting it as the answer to climate change. Once he had actually grappled with the idea that climate change was a reality, he then presented the solution as nuclear energy, with 25 potential sites around Australia, including right next to Kirribilli. We know that Dennis Jensen would be quite happy to have one in his electorate, and so would Barry Haase - he is happy to have one. Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : Don Randall wants one too. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They all want them; they all want nuclear power plants. Unfortunately for the Prime Minister, he is on the record over and over again, and he cannot run away from it. I look forward to seeing him respond to questions about this when he comes to Western Australia. I think he is coming tonight. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sure the member will not be. He will be trying to distance himself from the lot opposite. I think members opposite will find that. He will try to find out where they are all going so he can avoid them all. The Prime Minister, John Howard, has said over and over again that he believes that a significant part of Australia’s energy future must be nuclear power. That is the reality that the Australian people do understand and will understand when they go to consider their vote at the forthcoming federal election. That view is supported by many people of the opposition in this chamber. That will be another pointed distinction between us and our opponents when we go to the next state election. Member, it is one of the crazy ideas from the federal member for Tangney that we will not be pursuing or that will not influence us in our energy policy settings.
Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : Don Randall wants one too. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They all want them; they all want nuclear power plants. Unfortunately for the Prime Minister, he is on the record over and over again, and he cannot run away from it. I look forward to seeing him respond to questions about this when he comes to Western Australia. I think he is coming tonight. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sure the member will not be. He will be trying to distance himself from the lot opposite. I think members opposite will find that. He will try to find out where they are all going so he can avoid them all. The Prime Minister, John Howard, has said over and over again that he believes that a significant part of Australia’s energy future must be nuclear power. That is the reality that the Australian people do understand and will understand when they go to consider their vote at the forthcoming federal election. That view is supported by many people of the opposition in this chamber. That will be another pointed distinction between us and our opponents when we go to the next state election. Member, it is one of the crazy ideas from the federal member for Tangney that we will not be pursuing or that will not influence us in our energy policy settings.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They all want them; they all want nuclear power plants. Unfortunately for the Prime Minister, he is on the record over and over again, and he cannot run away from it. I look forward to seeing him respond to questions about this when he comes to Western Australia. I think he is coming tonight. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sure the member will not be. He will be trying to distance himself from the lot opposite. I think members opposite will find that. He will try to find out where they are all going so he can avoid them all. The Prime Minister, John Howard, has said over and over again that he believes that a significant part of Australia’s energy future must be nuclear power. That is the reality that the Australian people do understand and will understand when they go to consider their vote at the forthcoming federal election. That view is supported by many people of the opposition in this chamber. That will be another pointed distinction between us and our opponents when we go to the next state election. Member, it is one of the crazy ideas from the federal member for Tangney that we will not be pursuing or that will not influence us in our energy policy settings.
Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sure the member will not be. He will be trying to distance himself from the lot opposite. I think members opposite will find that. He will try to find out where they are all going so he can avoid them all. The Prime Minister, John Howard, has said over and over again that he believes that a significant part of Australia’s energy future must be nuclear power. That is the reality that the Australian people do understand and will understand when they go to consider their vote at the forthcoming federal election. That view is supported by many people of the opposition in this chamber. That will be another pointed distinction between us and our opponents when we go to the next state election. Member, it is one of the crazy ideas from the federal member for Tangney that we will not be pursuing or that will not influence us in our energy policy settings.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sure the member will not be. He will be trying to distance himself from the lot opposite. I think members opposite will find that. He will try to find out where they are all going so he can avoid them all. The Prime Minister, John Howard, has said over and over again that he believes that a significant part of Australia’s energy future must be nuclear power. That is the reality that the Australian people do understand and will understand when they go to consider their vote at the forthcoming federal election. That view is supported by many people of the opposition in this chamber. That will be another pointed distinction between us and our opponents when we go to the next state election. Member, it is one of the crazy ideas from the federal member for Tangney that we will not be pursuing or that will not influence us in our energy policy settings.
The Prime Minister, John Howard, has said over and over again that he believes that a significant part of Australia’s energy future must be nuclear power. That is the reality that the Australian people do understand and will understand when they go to consider their vote at the forthcoming federal election. That view is supported by many people of the opposition in this chamber. That will be another pointed distinction between us and our opponents when we go to the next state election. Member, it is one of the crazy ideas from the federal member for Tangney that we will not be pursuing or that will not influence us in our energy policy settings.

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