❓ MERVYN FLETCHER — EX GRATIA PAYMENT I refer to the case of terminally ill pensioner Mervyn Fletcher, who was robbed twice, first by criminals who stole his life savings and bought cars with some of th
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MERVYN FLETCHER — EX GRATIA PAYMENT
I refer to the case of terminally ill pensioner Mervyn Fletcher, who was robbed twice, first by criminals who stole his life savings and bought cars with some of the proceeds of the robbery, and second by the government, which seized the cars, flogged them at auction for the paltry sum of $2 050 and pocketed the amount into government coffers. (1) While Mr Fletcher has received a criminal injury compensation payment for the negative impact that the robbery has had upon his health, why is an ex gratia payment to recover $2 050 still pending? (2) Is the Attorney General reneging on his commitment made in the paper on 18 April 2010 that Mr Fletcher would receive an ex gratia payment equal to the sum of the amount of the vehicles sold and placed into government revenue? Mr C.C. PORTER
I refer to the case of terminally ill pensioner Mervyn Fletcher, who was robbed twice, first by criminals who stole his life savings and bought cars with some of the proceeds of the robbery, and second by the government, which seized the cars, flogged them at auction for the paltry sum of $2 050 and pocketed the amount into government coffers. (1) While Mr Fletcher has received a criminal injury compensation payment for the negative impact that the robbery has had upon his health, why is an ex gratia payment to recover $2 050 still pending? (2) Is the Attorney General reneging on his commitment made in the paper on 18 April 2010 that Mr Fletcher would receive an ex gratia payment equal to the sum of the amount of the vehicles sold and placed into government revenue? Mr C.C. PORTER
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I thank the member for his question. (1)–(2) It was a very sad story that Mr Fletcher told. What happened to him is indicative of so many people in the community who find themselves victims of crime and who we argue about in the abstract but have to deal with in the specific with respect to Mr Fletcher. In answer to the final part of the member’s question, the promise that Mr Fletcher will receive an ex gratia payment equivalent to the amount of cash that was taken from him, that promise remains good, but the amount, $2 050, represents the sale proceeds of three cars that were considered likely—albeit it was not proven to the standard of beyond reasonable doubt—purchased with funds that were stolen from Mr Fletcher. Whether or not that money has gone and is now in Mr Fletcher’s hands, I cannot answer here but I will find out. If it has not, I will expedite that process immediately. I might give some small background to this matter. It is a shame that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition is not here because he raised this matter first in the media. I think it is a case in which we all need to be careful with people who come into our electorate offices and the way we treat them and the information that we give to them. Mr Fletcher’s story obviously became known to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. The member for Kwinana advised Mr Fletcher that Mr Fletcher had cash stolen from him, which was recovered to the value of $17 000, and that he should have that returned. I am not quite sure why the member for Kwinana gave that advice to Mr Fletcher because that advice was very, very wrong. Money was certainly stolen from Mr Fletcher. Unfortunately, none of it was recovered. To have given Mr Fletcher hope that he would have that $17 000 returned to him was wrong advice. Had it been the case that cash was recovered from the people who stole it, and it was put into consolidated revenue, I would have had no hesitation in giving an ex gratia payment of that amount to Mr Fletcher. The fact that the member for Kwinana gave advice that $17 000 in cash was recovered was a very unfortunate piece of advice to give. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing. That is incorrect. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth! Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing. Mr C.C. PORTER : I am not verballing. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the first time. Mr C.C. PORTER : In fact, I got that information from the member for Kwinana when he wrote to me explaining what he told Mr Fletcher. The second thing he told Mr Fletcher when Mr Fletcher obviously approached him was that he, Mr Fletcher, was ineligible to apply for criminal injuries compensation on the basis that he had not been physically harmed in the offences that were committed against him. Again, that advice was wrong. To have Mr Fletcher come into the member for Kwinana’s office and advise him that he could not take action for criminal injuries compensation, which was the only way in which he would be properly compensated — Mr M. McGowan : The member for Kwinana’s not here. Mr C.C. PORTER : I understand that. Mr M. McGowan : You are making a statement saying what he said and we don’t know the truth of it. Just answer the question. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing information that he was told by your officers. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the second time. There are some other members on your side who I think have more appropriately raised the issue via interjection. It might be the course that you decide to take next time. Mr J.N. Hyde : The man’s dying; he’s come to a number of us with information and you’re treating it like this. You’re a disgrace. Dr M.D. Nahan : Trying to cover up. The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
(1) While Mr Fletcher has received a criminal injury compensation payment for the negative impact that the robbery has had upon his health, why is an ex gratia payment to recover $2 050 still pending? (2) Is the Attorney General reneging on his commitment made in the paper on 18 April 2010 that Mr Fletcher would receive an ex gratia payment equal to the sum of the amount of the vehicles sold and placed into government revenue? Mr C.C. PORTER replied: I thank the member for his question. (1)–(2) It was a very sad story that Mr Fletcher told. What happened to him is indicative of so many people in the community who find themselves victims of crime and who we argue about in the abstract but have to deal with in the specific with respect to Mr Fletcher. In answer to the final part of the member’s question, the promise that Mr Fletcher will receive an ex gratia payment equivalent to the amount of cash that was taken from him, that promise remains good, but the amount, $2 050, represents the sale proceeds of three cars that were considered likely—albeit it was not proven to the standard of beyond reasonable doubt—purchased with funds that were stolen from Mr Fletcher. Whether or not that money has gone and is now in Mr Fletcher’s hands, I cannot answer here but I will find out. If it has not, I will expedite that process immediately. I might give some small background to this matter. It is a shame that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition is not here because he raised this matter first in the media. I think it is a case in which we all need to be careful with people who come into our electorate offices and the way we treat them and the information that we give to them. Mr Fletcher’s story obviously became known to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. The member for Kwinana advised Mr Fletcher that Mr Fletcher had cash stolen from him, which was recovered to the value of $17 000, and that he should have that returned. I am not quite sure why the member for Kwinana gave that advice to Mr Fletcher because that advice was very, very wrong. Money was certainly stolen from Mr Fletcher. Unfortunately, none of it was recovered. To have given Mr Fletcher hope that he would have that $17 000 returned to him was wrong advice. Had it been the case that cash was recovered from the people who stole it, and it was put into consolidated revenue, I would have had no hesitation in giving an ex gratia payment of that amount to Mr Fletcher. The fact that the member for Kwinana gave advice that $17 000 in cash was recovered was a very unfortunate piece of advice to give. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing. That is incorrect. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth! Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing. Mr C.C. PORTER : I am not verballing. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the first time. Mr C.C. PORTER : In fact, I got that information from the member for Kwinana when he wrote to me explaining what he told Mr Fletcher. The second thing he told Mr Fletcher when Mr Fletcher obviously approached him was that he, Mr Fletcher, was ineligible to apply for criminal injuries compensation on the basis that he had not been physically harmed in the offences that were committed against him. Again, that advice was wrong. To have Mr Fletcher come into the member for Kwinana’s office and advise him that he could not take action for criminal injuries compensation, which was the only way in which he would be properly compensated — Mr M. McGowan : The member for Kwinana’s not here. Mr C.C. PORTER : I understand that. Mr M. McGowan : You are making a statement saying what he said and we don’t know the truth of it. Just answer the question. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing information that he was told by your officers. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the second time. There are some other members on your side who I think have more appropriately raised the issue via interjection. It might be the course that you decide to take next time. Mr J.N. Hyde : The man’s dying; he’s come to a number of us with information and you’re treating it like this. You’re a disgrace. Dr M.D. Nahan : Trying to cover up. The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
(2) Is the Attorney General reneging on his commitment made in the paper on 18 April 2010 that Mr Fletcher would receive an ex gratia payment equal to the sum of the amount of the vehicles sold and placed into government revenue? Mr C.C. PORTER replied: I thank the member for his question. (1)–(2) It was a very sad story that Mr Fletcher told. What happened to him is indicative of so many people in the community who find themselves victims of crime and who we argue about in the abstract but have to deal with in the specific with respect to Mr Fletcher. In answer to the final part of the member’s question, the promise that Mr Fletcher will receive an ex gratia payment equivalent to the amount of cash that was taken from him, that promise remains good, but the amount, $2 050, represents the sale proceeds of three cars that were considered likely—albeit it was not proven to the standard of beyond reasonable doubt—purchased with funds that were stolen from Mr Fletcher. Whether or not that money has gone and is now in Mr Fletcher’s hands, I cannot answer here but I will find out. If it has not, I will expedite that process immediately. I might give some small background to this matter. It is a shame that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition is not here because he raised this matter first in the media. I think it is a case in which we all need to be careful with people who come into our electorate offices and the way we treat them and the information that we give to them. Mr Fletcher’s story obviously became known to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. The member for Kwinana advised Mr Fletcher that Mr Fletcher had cash stolen from him, which was recovered to the value of $17 000, and that he should have that returned. I am not quite sure why the member for Kwinana gave that advice to Mr Fletcher because that advice was very, very wrong. Money was certainly stolen from Mr Fletcher. Unfortunately, none of it was recovered. To have given Mr Fletcher hope that he would have that $17 000 returned to him was wrong advice. Had it been the case that cash was recovered from the people who stole it, and it was put into consolidated revenue, I would have had no hesitation in giving an ex gratia payment of that amount to Mr Fletcher. The fact that the member for Kwinana gave advice that $17 000 in cash was recovered was a very unfortunate piece of advice to give. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing. That is incorrect. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth! Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing. Mr C.C. PORTER : I am not verballing. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the first time. Mr C.C. PORTER : In fact, I got that information from the member for Kwinana when he wrote to me explaining what he told Mr Fletcher. The second thing he told Mr Fletcher when Mr Fletcher obviously approached him was that he, Mr Fletcher, was ineligible to apply for criminal injuries compensation on the basis that he had not been physically harmed in the offences that were committed against him. Again, that advice was wrong. To have Mr Fletcher come into the member for Kwinana’s office and advise him that he could not take action for criminal injuries compensation, which was the only way in which he would be properly compensated — Mr M. McGowan : The member for Kwinana’s not here. Mr C.C. PORTER : I understand that. Mr M. McGowan : You are making a statement saying what he said and we don’t know the truth of it. Just answer the question. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing information that he was told by your officers. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the second time. There are some other members on your side who I think have more appropriately raised the issue via interjection. It might be the course that you decide to take next time. Mr J.N. Hyde : The man’s dying; he’s come to a number of us with information and you’re treating it like this. You’re a disgrace. Dr M.D. Nahan : Trying to cover up. The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
Mr C.C. PORTER replied: I thank the member for his question. (1)–(2) It was a very sad story that Mr Fletcher told. What happened to him is indicative of so many people in the community who find themselves victims of crime and who we argue about in the abstract but have to deal with in the specific with respect to Mr Fletcher. In answer to the final part of the member’s question, the promise that Mr Fletcher will receive an ex gratia payment equivalent to the amount of cash that was taken from him, that promise remains good, but the amount, $2 050, represents the sale proceeds of three cars that were considered likely—albeit it was not proven to the standard of beyond reasonable doubt—purchased with funds that were stolen from Mr Fletcher. Whether or not that money has gone and is now in Mr Fletcher’s hands, I cannot answer here but I will find out. If it has not, I will expedite that process immediately. I might give some small background to this matter. It is a shame that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition is not here because he raised this matter first in the media. I think it is a case in which we all need to be careful with people who come into our electorate offices and the way we treat them and the information that we give to them. Mr Fletcher’s story obviously became known to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. The member for Kwinana advised Mr Fletcher that Mr Fletcher had cash stolen from him, which was recovered to the value of $17 000, and that he should have that returned. I am not quite sure why the member for Kwinana gave that advice to Mr Fletcher because that advice was very, very wrong. Money was certainly stolen from Mr Fletcher. Unfortunately, none of it was recovered. To have given Mr Fletcher hope that he would have that $17 000 returned to him was wrong advice. Had it been the case that cash was recovered from the people who stole it, and it was put into consolidated revenue, I would have had no hesitation in giving an ex gratia payment of that amount to Mr Fletcher. The fact that the member for Kwinana gave advice that $17 000 in cash was recovered was a very unfortunate piece of advice to give. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing. That is incorrect. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth! Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing. Mr C.C. PORTER : I am not verballing. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the first time. Mr C.C. PORTER : In fact, I got that information from the member for Kwinana when he wrote to me explaining what he told Mr Fletcher. The second thing he told Mr Fletcher when Mr Fletcher obviously approached him was that he, Mr Fletcher, was ineligible to apply for criminal injuries compensation on the basis that he had not been physically harmed in the offences that were committed against him. Again, that advice was wrong. To have Mr Fletcher come into the member for Kwinana’s office and advise him that he could not take action for criminal injuries compensation, which was the only way in which he would be properly compensated — Mr M. McGowan : The member for Kwinana’s not here. Mr C.C. PORTER : I understand that. Mr M. McGowan : You are making a statement saying what he said and we don’t know the truth of it. Just answer the question. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing information that he was told by your officers. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the second time. There are some other members on your side who I think have more appropriately raised the issue via interjection. It might be the course that you decide to take next time. Mr J.N. Hyde : The man’s dying; he’s come to a number of us with information and you’re treating it like this. You’re a disgrace. Dr M.D. Nahan : Trying to cover up. The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
I thank the member for his question. (1)–(2) It was a very sad story that Mr Fletcher told. What happened to him is indicative of so many people in the community who find themselves victims of crime and who we argue about in the abstract but have to deal with in the specific with respect to Mr Fletcher. In answer to the final part of the member’s question, the promise that Mr Fletcher will receive an ex gratia payment equivalent to the amount of cash that was taken from him, that promise remains good, but the amount, $2 050, represents the sale proceeds of three cars that were considered likely—albeit it was not proven to the standard of beyond reasonable doubt—purchased with funds that were stolen from Mr Fletcher. Whether or not that money has gone and is now in Mr Fletcher’s hands, I cannot answer here but I will find out. If it has not, I will expedite that process immediately. I might give some small background to this matter. It is a shame that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition is not here because he raised this matter first in the media. I think it is a case in which we all need to be careful with people who come into our electorate offices and the way we treat them and the information that we give to them. Mr Fletcher’s story obviously became known to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. The member for Kwinana advised Mr Fletcher that Mr Fletcher had cash stolen from him, which was recovered to the value of $17 000, and that he should have that returned. I am not quite sure why the member for Kwinana gave that advice to Mr Fletcher because that advice was very, very wrong. Money was certainly stolen from Mr Fletcher. Unfortunately, none of it was recovered. To have given Mr Fletcher hope that he would have that $17 000 returned to him was wrong advice. Had it been the case that cash was recovered from the people who stole it, and it was put into consolidated revenue, I would have had no hesitation in giving an ex gratia payment of that amount to Mr Fletcher. The fact that the member for Kwinana gave advice that $17 000 in cash was recovered was a very unfortunate piece of advice to give. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing. That is incorrect. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth! Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing. Mr C.C. PORTER : I am not verballing. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the first time. Mr C.C. PORTER : In fact, I got that information from the member for Kwinana when he wrote to me explaining what he told Mr Fletcher. The second thing he told Mr Fletcher when Mr Fletcher obviously approached him was that he, Mr Fletcher, was ineligible to apply for criminal injuries compensation on the basis that he had not been physically harmed in the offences that were committed against him. Again, that advice was wrong. To have Mr Fletcher come into the member for Kwinana’s office and advise him that he could not take action for criminal injuries compensation, which was the only way in which he would be properly compensated — Mr M. McGowan : The member for Kwinana’s not here. Mr C.C. PORTER : I understand that. Mr M. McGowan : You are making a statement saying what he said and we don’t know the truth of it. Just answer the question. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing information that he was told by your officers. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the second time. There are some other members on your side who I think have more appropriately raised the issue via interjection. It might be the course that you decide to take next time. Mr J.N. Hyde : The man’s dying; he’s come to a number of us with information and you’re treating it like this. You’re a disgrace. Dr M.D. Nahan : Trying to cover up. The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
(1)–(2) It was a very sad story that Mr Fletcher told. What happened to him is indicative of so many people in the community who find themselves victims of crime and who we argue about in the abstract but have to deal with in the specific with respect to Mr Fletcher. In answer to the final part of the member’s question, the promise that Mr Fletcher will receive an ex gratia payment equivalent to the amount of cash that was taken from him, that promise remains good, but the amount, $2 050, represents the sale proceeds of three cars that were considered likely—albeit it was not proven to the standard of beyond reasonable doubt—purchased with funds that were stolen from Mr Fletcher. Whether or not that money has gone and is now in Mr Fletcher’s hands, I cannot answer here but I will find out. If it has not, I will expedite that process immediately. I might give some small background to this matter. It is a shame that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition is not here because he raised this matter first in the media. I think it is a case in which we all need to be careful with people who come into our electorate offices and the way we treat them and the information that we give to them. Mr Fletcher’s story obviously became known to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. The member for Kwinana advised Mr Fletcher that Mr Fletcher had cash stolen from him, which was recovered to the value of $17 000, and that he should have that returned. I am not quite sure why the member for Kwinana gave that advice to Mr Fletcher because that advice was very, very wrong. Money was certainly stolen from Mr Fletcher. Unfortunately, none of it was recovered. To have given Mr Fletcher hope that he would have that $17 000 returned to him was wrong advice. Had it been the case that cash was recovered from the people who stole it, and it was put into consolidated revenue, I would have had no hesitation in giving an ex gratia payment of that amount to Mr Fletcher. The fact that the member for Kwinana gave advice that $17 000 in cash was recovered was a very unfortunate piece of advice to give. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing. That is incorrect. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth! Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing. Mr C.C. PORTER : I am not verballing. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the first time. Mr C.C. PORTER : In fact, I got that information from the member for Kwinana when he wrote to me explaining what he told Mr Fletcher. The second thing he told Mr Fletcher when Mr Fletcher obviously approached him was that he, Mr Fletcher, was ineligible to apply for criminal injuries compensation on the basis that he had not been physically harmed in the offences that were committed against him. Again, that advice was wrong. To have Mr Fletcher come into the member for Kwinana’s office and advise him that he could not take action for criminal injuries compensation, which was the only way in which he would be properly compensated — Mr M. McGowan : The member for Kwinana’s not here. Mr C.C. PORTER : I understand that. Mr M. McGowan : You are making a statement saying what he said and we don’t know the truth of it. Just answer the question. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing information that he was told by your officers. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the second time. There are some other members on your side who I think have more appropriately raised the issue via interjection. It might be the course that you decide to take next time. Mr J.N. Hyde : The man’s dying; he’s come to a number of us with information and you’re treating it like this. You’re a disgrace. Dr M.D. Nahan : Trying to cover up. The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
I might give some small background to this matter. It is a shame that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition is not here because he raised this matter first in the media. I think it is a case in which we all need to be careful with people who come into our electorate offices and the way we treat them and the information that we give to them. Mr Fletcher’s story obviously became known to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. The member for Kwinana advised Mr Fletcher that Mr Fletcher had cash stolen from him, which was recovered to the value of $17 000, and that he should have that returned. I am not quite sure why the member for Kwinana gave that advice to Mr Fletcher because that advice was very, very wrong. Money was certainly stolen from Mr Fletcher. Unfortunately, none of it was recovered. To have given Mr Fletcher hope that he would have that $17 000 returned to him was wrong advice. Had it been the case that cash was recovered from the people who stole it, and it was put into consolidated revenue, I would have had no hesitation in giving an ex gratia payment of that amount to Mr Fletcher. The fact that the member for Kwinana gave advice that $17 000 in cash was recovered was a very unfortunate piece of advice to give.
The SPEAKER : Member for Perth! Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing. Mr C.C. PORTER : I am not verballing. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the first time. Mr C.C. PORTER : In fact, I got that information from the member for Kwinana when he wrote to me explaining what he told Mr Fletcher. The second thing he told Mr Fletcher when Mr Fletcher obviously approached him was that he, Mr Fletcher, was ineligible to apply for criminal injuries compensation on the basis that he had not been physically harmed in the offences that were committed against him. Again, that advice was wrong. To have Mr Fletcher come into the member for Kwinana’s office and advise him that he could not take action for criminal injuries compensation, which was the only way in which he would be properly compensated — Mr M. McGowan : The member for Kwinana’s not here. Mr C.C. PORTER : I understand that. Mr M. McGowan : You are making a statement saying what he said and we don’t know the truth of it. Just answer the question. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing information that he was told by your officers. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the second time. There are some other members on your side who I think have more appropriately raised the issue via interjection. It might be the course that you decide to take next time. Mr J.N. Hyde : The man’s dying; he’s come to a number of us with information and you’re treating it like this. You’re a disgrace. Dr M.D. Nahan : Trying to cover up. The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing. Mr C.C. PORTER : I am not verballing. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the first time. Mr C.C. PORTER : In fact, I got that information from the member for Kwinana when he wrote to me explaining what he told Mr Fletcher. The second thing he told Mr Fletcher when Mr Fletcher obviously approached him was that he, Mr Fletcher, was ineligible to apply for criminal injuries compensation on the basis that he had not been physically harmed in the offences that were committed against him. Again, that advice was wrong. To have Mr Fletcher come into the member for Kwinana’s office and advise him that he could not take action for criminal injuries compensation, which was the only way in which he would be properly compensated — Mr M. McGowan : The member for Kwinana’s not here. Mr C.C. PORTER : I understand that. Mr M. McGowan : You are making a statement saying what he said and we don’t know the truth of it. Just answer the question. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing information that he was told by your officers. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the second time. There are some other members on your side who I think have more appropriately raised the issue via interjection. It might be the course that you decide to take next time. Mr J.N. Hyde : The man’s dying; he’s come to a number of us with information and you’re treating it like this. You’re a disgrace. Dr M.D. Nahan : Trying to cover up. The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
Mr C.C. PORTER : I am not verballing. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the first time. Mr C.C. PORTER : In fact, I got that information from the member for Kwinana when he wrote to me explaining what he told Mr Fletcher. The second thing he told Mr Fletcher when Mr Fletcher obviously approached him was that he, Mr Fletcher, was ineligible to apply for criminal injuries compensation on the basis that he had not been physically harmed in the offences that were committed against him. Again, that advice was wrong. To have Mr Fletcher come into the member for Kwinana’s office and advise him that he could not take action for criminal injuries compensation, which was the only way in which he would be properly compensated — Mr M. McGowan : The member for Kwinana’s not here. Mr C.C. PORTER : I understand that. Mr M. McGowan : You are making a statement saying what he said and we don’t know the truth of it. Just answer the question. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing information that he was told by your officers. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the second time. There are some other members on your side who I think have more appropriately raised the issue via interjection. It might be the course that you decide to take next time. Mr J.N. Hyde : The man’s dying; he’s come to a number of us with information and you’re treating it like this. You’re a disgrace. Dr M.D. Nahan : Trying to cover up. The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the first time. Mr C.C. PORTER : In fact, I got that information from the member for Kwinana when he wrote to me explaining what he told Mr Fletcher. The second thing he told Mr Fletcher when Mr Fletcher obviously approached him was that he, Mr Fletcher, was ineligible to apply for criminal injuries compensation on the basis that he had not been physically harmed in the offences that were committed against him. Again, that advice was wrong. To have Mr Fletcher come into the member for Kwinana’s office and advise him that he could not take action for criminal injuries compensation, which was the only way in which he would be properly compensated — Mr M. McGowan : The member for Kwinana’s not here. Mr C.C. PORTER : I understand that. Mr M. McGowan : You are making a statement saying what he said and we don’t know the truth of it. Just answer the question. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing information that he was told by your officers. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the second time. There are some other members on your side who I think have more appropriately raised the issue via interjection. It might be the course that you decide to take next time. Mr J.N. Hyde : The man’s dying; he’s come to a number of us with information and you’re treating it like this. You’re a disgrace. Dr M.D. Nahan : Trying to cover up. The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
Mr C.C. PORTER : In fact, I got that information from the member for Kwinana when he wrote to me explaining what he told Mr Fletcher. The second thing he told Mr Fletcher when Mr Fletcher obviously approached him was that he, Mr Fletcher, was ineligible to apply for criminal injuries compensation on the basis that he had not been physically harmed in the offences that were committed against him. Again, that advice was wrong. To have Mr Fletcher come into the member for Kwinana’s office and advise him that he could not take action for criminal injuries compensation, which was the only way in which he would be properly compensated — Mr M. McGowan : The member for Kwinana’s not here. Mr C.C. PORTER : I understand that. Mr M. McGowan : You are making a statement saying what he said and we don’t know the truth of it. Just answer the question. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing information that he was told by your officers. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the second time. There are some other members on your side who I think have more appropriately raised the issue via interjection. It might be the course that you decide to take next time. Mr J.N. Hyde : The man’s dying; he’s come to a number of us with information and you’re treating it like this. You’re a disgrace. Dr M.D. Nahan : Trying to cover up. The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
Mr M. McGowan : The member for Kwinana’s not here. Mr C.C. PORTER : I understand that. Mr M. McGowan : You are making a statement saying what he said and we don’t know the truth of it. Just answer the question. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing information that he was told by your officers. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the second time. There are some other members on your side who I think have more appropriately raised the issue via interjection. It might be the course that you decide to take next time. Mr J.N. Hyde : The man’s dying; he’s come to a number of us with information and you’re treating it like this. You’re a disgrace. Dr M.D. Nahan : Trying to cover up. The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
Mr C.C. PORTER : I understand that. Mr M. McGowan : You are making a statement saying what he said and we don’t know the truth of it. Just answer the question. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing information that he was told by your officers. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the second time. There are some other members on your side who I think have more appropriately raised the issue via interjection. It might be the course that you decide to take next time. Mr J.N. Hyde : The man’s dying; he’s come to a number of us with information and you’re treating it like this. You’re a disgrace. Dr M.D. Nahan : Trying to cover up. The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
Mr M. McGowan : You are making a statement saying what he said and we don’t know the truth of it. Just answer the question. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing information that he was told by your officers. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the second time. There are some other members on your side who I think have more appropriately raised the issue via interjection. It might be the course that you decide to take next time. Mr J.N. Hyde : The man’s dying; he’s come to a number of us with information and you’re treating it like this. You’re a disgrace. Dr M.D. Nahan : Trying to cover up. The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing information that he was told by your officers. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the second time. There are some other members on your side who I think have more appropriately raised the issue via interjection. It might be the course that you decide to take next time. Mr J.N. Hyde : The man’s dying; he’s come to a number of us with information and you’re treating it like this. You’re a disgrace. Dr M.D. Nahan : Trying to cover up. The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the second time. There are some other members on your side who I think have more appropriately raised the issue via interjection. It might be the course that you decide to take next time. Mr J.N. Hyde : The man’s dying; he’s come to a number of us with information and you’re treating it like this. You’re a disgrace. Dr M.D. Nahan : Trying to cover up. The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
Mr J.N. Hyde : The man’s dying; he’s come to a number of us with information and you’re treating it like this. You’re a disgrace. Dr M.D. Nahan : Trying to cover up. The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
Dr M.D. Nahan : Trying to cover up. The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
(1) While Mr Fletcher has received a criminal injury compensation payment for the negative impact that the robbery has had upon his health, why is an ex gratia payment to recover $2 050 still pending? (2) Is the Attorney General reneging on his commitment made in the paper on 18 April 2010 that Mr Fletcher would receive an ex gratia payment equal to the sum of the amount of the vehicles sold and placed into government revenue? Mr C.C. PORTER replied: I thank the member for his question. (1)–(2) It was a very sad story that Mr Fletcher told. What happened to him is indicative of so many people in the community who find themselves victims of crime and who we argue about in the abstract but have to deal with in the specific with respect to Mr Fletcher. In answer to the final part of the member’s question, the promise that Mr Fletcher will receive an ex gratia payment equivalent to the amount of cash that was taken from him, that promise remains good, but the amount, $2 050, represents the sale proceeds of three cars that were considered likely—albeit it was not proven to the standard of beyond reasonable doubt—purchased with funds that were stolen from Mr Fletcher. Whether or not that money has gone and is now in Mr Fletcher’s hands, I cannot answer here but I will find out. If it has not, I will expedite that process immediately. I might give some small background to this matter. It is a shame that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition is not here because he raised this matter first in the media. I think it is a case in which we all need to be careful with people who come into our electorate offices and the way we treat them and the information that we give to them. Mr Fletcher’s story obviously became known to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. The member for Kwinana advised Mr Fletcher that Mr Fletcher had cash stolen from him, which was recovered to the value of $17 000, and that he should have that returned. I am not quite sure why the member for Kwinana gave that advice to Mr Fletcher because that advice was very, very wrong. Money was certainly stolen from Mr Fletcher. Unfortunately, none of it was recovered. To have given Mr Fletcher hope that he would have that $17 000 returned to him was wrong advice. Had it been the case that cash was recovered from the people who stole it, and it was put into consolidated revenue, I would have had no hesitation in giving an ex gratia payment of that amount to Mr Fletcher. The fact that the member for Kwinana gave advice that $17 000 in cash was recovered was a very unfortunate piece of advice to give. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing. That is incorrect. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth! Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing. Mr C.C. PORTER : I am not verballing. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the first time. Mr C.C. PORTER : In fact, I got that information from the member for Kwinana when he wrote to me explaining what he told Mr Fletcher. The second thing he told Mr Fletcher when Mr Fletcher obviously approached him was that he, Mr Fletcher, was ineligible to apply for criminal injuries compensation on the basis that he had not been physically harmed in the offences that were committed against him. Again, that advice was wrong. To have Mr Fletcher come into the member for Kwinana’s office and advise him that he could not take action for criminal injuries compensation, which was the only way in which he would be properly compensated — Mr M. McGowan : The member for Kwinana’s not here. Mr C.C. PORTER : I understand that. Mr M. McGowan : You are making a statement saying what he said and we don’t know the truth of it. Just answer the question. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing information that he was told by your officers. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the second time. There are some other members on your side who I think have more appropriately raised the issue via interjection. It might be the course that you decide to take next time. Mr J.N. Hyde : The man’s dying; he’s come to a number of us with information and you’re treating it like this. You’re a disgrace. Dr M.D. Nahan : Trying to cover up. The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
(2) Is the Attorney General reneging on his commitment made in the paper on 18 April 2010 that Mr Fletcher would receive an ex gratia payment equal to the sum of the amount of the vehicles sold and placed into government revenue? Mr C.C. PORTER replied: I thank the member for his question. (1)–(2) It was a very sad story that Mr Fletcher told. What happened to him is indicative of so many people in the community who find themselves victims of crime and who we argue about in the abstract but have to deal with in the specific with respect to Mr Fletcher. In answer to the final part of the member’s question, the promise that Mr Fletcher will receive an ex gratia payment equivalent to the amount of cash that was taken from him, that promise remains good, but the amount, $2 050, represents the sale proceeds of three cars that were considered likely—albeit it was not proven to the standard of beyond reasonable doubt—purchased with funds that were stolen from Mr Fletcher. Whether or not that money has gone and is now in Mr Fletcher’s hands, I cannot answer here but I will find out. If it has not, I will expedite that process immediately. I might give some small background to this matter. It is a shame that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition is not here because he raised this matter first in the media. I think it is a case in which we all need to be careful with people who come into our electorate offices and the way we treat them and the information that we give to them. Mr Fletcher’s story obviously became known to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. The member for Kwinana advised Mr Fletcher that Mr Fletcher had cash stolen from him, which was recovered to the value of $17 000, and that he should have that returned. I am not quite sure why the member for Kwinana gave that advice to Mr Fletcher because that advice was very, very wrong. Money was certainly stolen from Mr Fletcher. Unfortunately, none of it was recovered. To have given Mr Fletcher hope that he would have that $17 000 returned to him was wrong advice. Had it been the case that cash was recovered from the people who stole it, and it was put into consolidated revenue, I would have had no hesitation in giving an ex gratia payment of that amount to Mr Fletcher. The fact that the member for Kwinana gave advice that $17 000 in cash was recovered was a very unfortunate piece of advice to give. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing. That is incorrect. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth! Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing. Mr C.C. PORTER : I am not verballing. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the first time. Mr C.C. PORTER : In fact, I got that information from the member for Kwinana when he wrote to me explaining what he told Mr Fletcher. The second thing he told Mr Fletcher when Mr Fletcher obviously approached him was that he, Mr Fletcher, was ineligible to apply for criminal injuries compensation on the basis that he had not been physically harmed in the offences that were committed against him. Again, that advice was wrong. To have Mr Fletcher come into the member for Kwinana’s office and advise him that he could not take action for criminal injuries compensation, which was the only way in which he would be properly compensated — Mr M. McGowan : The member for Kwinana’s not here. Mr C.C. PORTER : I understand that. Mr M. McGowan : You are making a statement saying what he said and we don’t know the truth of it. Just answer the question. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing information that he was told by your officers. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the second time. There are some other members on your side who I think have more appropriately raised the issue via interjection. It might be the course that you decide to take next time. Mr J.N. Hyde : The man’s dying; he’s come to a number of us with information and you’re treating it like this. You’re a disgrace. Dr M.D. Nahan : Trying to cover up. The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
Mr C.C. PORTER replied: I thank the member for his question. (1)–(2) It was a very sad story that Mr Fletcher told. What happened to him is indicative of so many people in the community who find themselves victims of crime and who we argue about in the abstract but have to deal with in the specific with respect to Mr Fletcher. In answer to the final part of the member’s question, the promise that Mr Fletcher will receive an ex gratia payment equivalent to the amount of cash that was taken from him, that promise remains good, but the amount, $2 050, represents the sale proceeds of three cars that were considered likely—albeit it was not proven to the standard of beyond reasonable doubt—purchased with funds that were stolen from Mr Fletcher. Whether or not that money has gone and is now in Mr Fletcher’s hands, I cannot answer here but I will find out. If it has not, I will expedite that process immediately. I might give some small background to this matter. It is a shame that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition is not here because he raised this matter first in the media. I think it is a case in which we all need to be careful with people who come into our electorate offices and the way we treat them and the information that we give to them. Mr Fletcher’s story obviously became known to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. The member for Kwinana advised Mr Fletcher that Mr Fletcher had cash stolen from him, which was recovered to the value of $17 000, and that he should have that returned. I am not quite sure why the member for Kwinana gave that advice to Mr Fletcher because that advice was very, very wrong. Money was certainly stolen from Mr Fletcher. Unfortunately, none of it was recovered. To have given Mr Fletcher hope that he would have that $17 000 returned to him was wrong advice. Had it been the case that cash was recovered from the people who stole it, and it was put into consolidated revenue, I would have had no hesitation in giving an ex gratia payment of that amount to Mr Fletcher. The fact that the member for Kwinana gave advice that $17 000 in cash was recovered was a very unfortunate piece of advice to give. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing. That is incorrect. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth! Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing. Mr C.C. PORTER : I am not verballing. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the first time. Mr C.C. PORTER : In fact, I got that information from the member for Kwinana when he wrote to me explaining what he told Mr Fletcher. The second thing he told Mr Fletcher when Mr Fletcher obviously approached him was that he, Mr Fletcher, was ineligible to apply for criminal injuries compensation on the basis that he had not been physically harmed in the offences that were committed against him. Again, that advice was wrong. To have Mr Fletcher come into the member for Kwinana’s office and advise him that he could not take action for criminal injuries compensation, which was the only way in which he would be properly compensated — Mr M. McGowan : The member for Kwinana’s not here. Mr C.C. PORTER : I understand that. Mr M. McGowan : You are making a statement saying what he said and we don’t know the truth of it. Just answer the question. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing information that he was told by your officers. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the second time. There are some other members on your side who I think have more appropriately raised the issue via interjection. It might be the course that you decide to take next time. Mr J.N. Hyde : The man’s dying; he’s come to a number of us with information and you’re treating it like this. You’re a disgrace. Dr M.D. Nahan : Trying to cover up. The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
I thank the member for his question. (1)–(2) It was a very sad story that Mr Fletcher told. What happened to him is indicative of so many people in the community who find themselves victims of crime and who we argue about in the abstract but have to deal with in the specific with respect to Mr Fletcher. In answer to the final part of the member’s question, the promise that Mr Fletcher will receive an ex gratia payment equivalent to the amount of cash that was taken from him, that promise remains good, but the amount, $2 050, represents the sale proceeds of three cars that were considered likely—albeit it was not proven to the standard of beyond reasonable doubt—purchased with funds that were stolen from Mr Fletcher. Whether or not that money has gone and is now in Mr Fletcher’s hands, I cannot answer here but I will find out. If it has not, I will expedite that process immediately. I might give some small background to this matter. It is a shame that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition is not here because he raised this matter first in the media. I think it is a case in which we all need to be careful with people who come into our electorate offices and the way we treat them and the information that we give to them. Mr Fletcher’s story obviously became known to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. The member for Kwinana advised Mr Fletcher that Mr Fletcher had cash stolen from him, which was recovered to the value of $17 000, and that he should have that returned. I am not quite sure why the member for Kwinana gave that advice to Mr Fletcher because that advice was very, very wrong. Money was certainly stolen from Mr Fletcher. Unfortunately, none of it was recovered. To have given Mr Fletcher hope that he would have that $17 000 returned to him was wrong advice. Had it been the case that cash was recovered from the people who stole it, and it was put into consolidated revenue, I would have had no hesitation in giving an ex gratia payment of that amount to Mr Fletcher. The fact that the member for Kwinana gave advice that $17 000 in cash was recovered was a very unfortunate piece of advice to give. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing. That is incorrect. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth! Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing. Mr C.C. PORTER : I am not verballing. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the first time. Mr C.C. PORTER : In fact, I got that information from the member for Kwinana when he wrote to me explaining what he told Mr Fletcher. The second thing he told Mr Fletcher when Mr Fletcher obviously approached him was that he, Mr Fletcher, was ineligible to apply for criminal injuries compensation on the basis that he had not been physically harmed in the offences that were committed against him. Again, that advice was wrong. To have Mr Fletcher come into the member for Kwinana’s office and advise him that he could not take action for criminal injuries compensation, which was the only way in which he would be properly compensated — Mr M. McGowan : The member for Kwinana’s not here. Mr C.C. PORTER : I understand that. Mr M. McGowan : You are making a statement saying what he said and we don’t know the truth of it. Just answer the question. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing information that he was told by your officers. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the second time. There are some other members on your side who I think have more appropriately raised the issue via interjection. It might be the course that you decide to take next time. Mr J.N. Hyde : The man’s dying; he’s come to a number of us with information and you’re treating it like this. You’re a disgrace. Dr M.D. Nahan : Trying to cover up. The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
(1)–(2) It was a very sad story that Mr Fletcher told. What happened to him is indicative of so many people in the community who find themselves victims of crime and who we argue about in the abstract but have to deal with in the specific with respect to Mr Fletcher. In answer to the final part of the member’s question, the promise that Mr Fletcher will receive an ex gratia payment equivalent to the amount of cash that was taken from him, that promise remains good, but the amount, $2 050, represents the sale proceeds of three cars that were considered likely—albeit it was not proven to the standard of beyond reasonable doubt—purchased with funds that were stolen from Mr Fletcher. Whether or not that money has gone and is now in Mr Fletcher’s hands, I cannot answer here but I will find out. If it has not, I will expedite that process immediately. I might give some small background to this matter. It is a shame that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition is not here because he raised this matter first in the media. I think it is a case in which we all need to be careful with people who come into our electorate offices and the way we treat them and the information that we give to them. Mr Fletcher’s story obviously became known to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. The member for Kwinana advised Mr Fletcher that Mr Fletcher had cash stolen from him, which was recovered to the value of $17 000, and that he should have that returned. I am not quite sure why the member for Kwinana gave that advice to Mr Fletcher because that advice was very, very wrong. Money was certainly stolen from Mr Fletcher. Unfortunately, none of it was recovered. To have given Mr Fletcher hope that he would have that $17 000 returned to him was wrong advice. Had it been the case that cash was recovered from the people who stole it, and it was put into consolidated revenue, I would have had no hesitation in giving an ex gratia payment of that amount to Mr Fletcher. The fact that the member for Kwinana gave advice that $17 000 in cash was recovered was a very unfortunate piece of advice to give. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing. That is incorrect. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth! Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing. Mr C.C. PORTER : I am not verballing. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the first time. Mr C.C. PORTER : In fact, I got that information from the member for Kwinana when he wrote to me explaining what he told Mr Fletcher. The second thing he told Mr Fletcher when Mr Fletcher obviously approached him was that he, Mr Fletcher, was ineligible to apply for criminal injuries compensation on the basis that he had not been physically harmed in the offences that were committed against him. Again, that advice was wrong. To have Mr Fletcher come into the member for Kwinana’s office and advise him that he could not take action for criminal injuries compensation, which was the only way in which he would be properly compensated — Mr M. McGowan : The member for Kwinana’s not here. Mr C.C. PORTER : I understand that. Mr M. McGowan : You are making a statement saying what he said and we don’t know the truth of it. Just answer the question. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing information that he was told by your officers. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the second time. There are some other members on your side who I think have more appropriately raised the issue via interjection. It might be the course that you decide to take next time. Mr J.N. Hyde : The man’s dying; he’s come to a number of us with information and you’re treating it like this. You’re a disgrace. Dr M.D. Nahan : Trying to cover up. The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
I might give some small background to this matter. It is a shame that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition is not here because he raised this matter first in the media. I think it is a case in which we all need to be careful with people who come into our electorate offices and the way we treat them and the information that we give to them. Mr Fletcher’s story obviously became known to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. The member for Kwinana advised Mr Fletcher that Mr Fletcher had cash stolen from him, which was recovered to the value of $17 000, and that he should have that returned. I am not quite sure why the member for Kwinana gave that advice to Mr Fletcher because that advice was very, very wrong. Money was certainly stolen from Mr Fletcher. Unfortunately, none of it was recovered. To have given Mr Fletcher hope that he would have that $17 000 returned to him was wrong advice. Had it been the case that cash was recovered from the people who stole it, and it was put into consolidated revenue, I would have had no hesitation in giving an ex gratia payment of that amount to Mr Fletcher. The fact that the member for Kwinana gave advice that $17 000 in cash was recovered was a very unfortunate piece of advice to give.
The SPEAKER : Member for Perth! Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing. Mr C.C. PORTER : I am not verballing. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the first time. Mr C.C. PORTER : In fact, I got that information from the member for Kwinana when he wrote to me explaining what he told Mr Fletcher. The second thing he told Mr Fletcher when Mr Fletcher obviously approached him was that he, Mr Fletcher, was ineligible to apply for criminal injuries compensation on the basis that he had not been physically harmed in the offences that were committed against him. Again, that advice was wrong. To have Mr Fletcher come into the member for Kwinana’s office and advise him that he could not take action for criminal injuries compensation, which was the only way in which he would be properly compensated — Mr M. McGowan : The member for Kwinana’s not here. Mr C.C. PORTER : I understand that. Mr M. McGowan : You are making a statement saying what he said and we don’t know the truth of it. Just answer the question. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing information that he was told by your officers. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the second time. There are some other members on your side who I think have more appropriately raised the issue via interjection. It might be the course that you decide to take next time. Mr J.N. Hyde : The man’s dying; he’s come to a number of us with information and you’re treating it like this. You’re a disgrace. Dr M.D. Nahan : Trying to cover up. The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing. Mr C.C. PORTER : I am not verballing. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the first time. Mr C.C. PORTER : In fact, I got that information from the member for Kwinana when he wrote to me explaining what he told Mr Fletcher. The second thing he told Mr Fletcher when Mr Fletcher obviously approached him was that he, Mr Fletcher, was ineligible to apply for criminal injuries compensation on the basis that he had not been physically harmed in the offences that were committed against him. Again, that advice was wrong. To have Mr Fletcher come into the member for Kwinana’s office and advise him that he could not take action for criminal injuries compensation, which was the only way in which he would be properly compensated — Mr M. McGowan : The member for Kwinana’s not here. Mr C.C. PORTER : I understand that. Mr M. McGowan : You are making a statement saying what he said and we don’t know the truth of it. Just answer the question. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing information that he was told by your officers. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the second time. There are some other members on your side who I think have more appropriately raised the issue via interjection. It might be the course that you decide to take next time. Mr J.N. Hyde : The man’s dying; he’s come to a number of us with information and you’re treating it like this. You’re a disgrace. Dr M.D. Nahan : Trying to cover up. The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
Mr C.C. PORTER : I am not verballing. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the first time. Mr C.C. PORTER : In fact, I got that information from the member for Kwinana when he wrote to me explaining what he told Mr Fletcher. The second thing he told Mr Fletcher when Mr Fletcher obviously approached him was that he, Mr Fletcher, was ineligible to apply for criminal injuries compensation on the basis that he had not been physically harmed in the offences that were committed against him. Again, that advice was wrong. To have Mr Fletcher come into the member for Kwinana’s office and advise him that he could not take action for criminal injuries compensation, which was the only way in which he would be properly compensated — Mr M. McGowan : The member for Kwinana’s not here. Mr C.C. PORTER : I understand that. Mr M. McGowan : You are making a statement saying what he said and we don’t know the truth of it. Just answer the question. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing information that he was told by your officers. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the second time. There are some other members on your side who I think have more appropriately raised the issue via interjection. It might be the course that you decide to take next time. Mr J.N. Hyde : The man’s dying; he’s come to a number of us with information and you’re treating it like this. You’re a disgrace. Dr M.D. Nahan : Trying to cover up. The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the first time. Mr C.C. PORTER : In fact, I got that information from the member for Kwinana when he wrote to me explaining what he told Mr Fletcher. The second thing he told Mr Fletcher when Mr Fletcher obviously approached him was that he, Mr Fletcher, was ineligible to apply for criminal injuries compensation on the basis that he had not been physically harmed in the offences that were committed against him. Again, that advice was wrong. To have Mr Fletcher come into the member for Kwinana’s office and advise him that he could not take action for criminal injuries compensation, which was the only way in which he would be properly compensated — Mr M. McGowan : The member for Kwinana’s not here. Mr C.C. PORTER : I understand that. Mr M. McGowan : You are making a statement saying what he said and we don’t know the truth of it. Just answer the question. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing information that he was told by your officers. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the second time. There are some other members on your side who I think have more appropriately raised the issue via interjection. It might be the course that you decide to take next time. Mr J.N. Hyde : The man’s dying; he’s come to a number of us with information and you’re treating it like this. You’re a disgrace. Dr M.D. Nahan : Trying to cover up. The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
Mr C.C. PORTER : In fact, I got that information from the member for Kwinana when he wrote to me explaining what he told Mr Fletcher. The second thing he told Mr Fletcher when Mr Fletcher obviously approached him was that he, Mr Fletcher, was ineligible to apply for criminal injuries compensation on the basis that he had not been physically harmed in the offences that were committed against him. Again, that advice was wrong. To have Mr Fletcher come into the member for Kwinana’s office and advise him that he could not take action for criminal injuries compensation, which was the only way in which he would be properly compensated — Mr M. McGowan : The member for Kwinana’s not here. Mr C.C. PORTER : I understand that. Mr M. McGowan : You are making a statement saying what he said and we don’t know the truth of it. Just answer the question. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing information that he was told by your officers. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the second time. There are some other members on your side who I think have more appropriately raised the issue via interjection. It might be the course that you decide to take next time. Mr J.N. Hyde : The man’s dying; he’s come to a number of us with information and you’re treating it like this. You’re a disgrace. Dr M.D. Nahan : Trying to cover up. The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
Mr M. McGowan : The member for Kwinana’s not here. Mr C.C. PORTER : I understand that. Mr M. McGowan : You are making a statement saying what he said and we don’t know the truth of it. Just answer the question. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing information that he was told by your officers. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the second time. There are some other members on your side who I think have more appropriately raised the issue via interjection. It might be the course that you decide to take next time. Mr J.N. Hyde : The man’s dying; he’s come to a number of us with information and you’re treating it like this. You’re a disgrace. Dr M.D. Nahan : Trying to cover up. The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
Mr C.C. PORTER : I understand that. Mr M. McGowan : You are making a statement saying what he said and we don’t know the truth of it. Just answer the question. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing information that he was told by your officers. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the second time. There are some other members on your side who I think have more appropriately raised the issue via interjection. It might be the course that you decide to take next time. Mr J.N. Hyde : The man’s dying; he’s come to a number of us with information and you’re treating it like this. You’re a disgrace. Dr M.D. Nahan : Trying to cover up. The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
Mr M. McGowan : You are making a statement saying what he said and we don’t know the truth of it. Just answer the question. Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing information that he was told by your officers. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the second time. There are some other members on your side who I think have more appropriately raised the issue via interjection. It might be the course that you decide to take next time. Mr J.N. Hyde : The man’s dying; he’s come to a number of us with information and you’re treating it like this. You’re a disgrace. Dr M.D. Nahan : Trying to cover up. The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
Mr J.N. Hyde : You are verballing information that he was told by your officers. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the second time. There are some other members on your side who I think have more appropriately raised the issue via interjection. It might be the course that you decide to take next time. Mr J.N. Hyde : The man’s dying; he’s come to a number of us with information and you’re treating it like this. You’re a disgrace. Dr M.D. Nahan : Trying to cover up. The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
The SPEAKER : Member for Perth, I formally call you for the second time. There are some other members on your side who I think have more appropriately raised the issue via interjection. It might be the course that you decide to take next time. Mr J.N. Hyde : The man’s dying; he’s come to a number of us with information and you’re treating it like this. You’re a disgrace. Dr M.D. Nahan : Trying to cover up. The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
Mr J.N. Hyde : The man’s dying; he’s come to a number of us with information and you’re treating it like this. You’re a disgrace. Dr M.D. Nahan : Trying to cover up. The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
Dr M.D. Nahan : Trying to cover up. The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
The SPEAKER : Member for Riverton, I formally call you for the first time. Member for Perth, I formally call you for the third time. You know a lot better; you know the process in this place. Attorney General, I ask you to conclude your remarks. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
Mr C.C. PORTER : The point about this is that I have dealt with Mr Fletcher, which in no way is meant to score political points. He was given poor advice by his local member because political points became the first object of the game, not assistance for Mr Fletcher. That is a fact. In taking my advice, Mr Fletcher did apply for criminal injuries compensation and received $17 000. We will make good on our promise to refund him the amount that was recovered from the sale of the vehicles, being an amount slightly in excess of $2 000. I am not sure whether that has changed hands. If it has not, I will expedite that process.
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