Premier Gallop responds to a question about Liberal Party support for 'one vote, one value' electoral reform, highlighting tensions within the Liberal-National coalition and suggesting the Leader of the Opposition previously expressed support for re-examining electorate weighting.

AnsweredQoN 223Legislative Assembly
Asked
7 August 2001
Portfolio
Premier

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ONE VOTE, ONE VALUE, LIBERAL PARTY SUPPORT
I refer to the Government’s electoral reform legislation and to claims by the president of the National Party that there are people in the Liberal Party who support one vote, one value. Does the Premier have any evidence of Liberal Party support for one vote, one value? Dr GALLOP

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I note that relations between the National Party and the Liberal Party are testy and strained. I am not surprised because there is a new alliance between the Liberal Party and One Nation. As the Leader of the National Party knows, the objective of One Nation is to get rid of the National Party. It is a funny coalition. The National Party does not trust the Liberal Party. The President of the National Party recently said on an ABC radio station - . . . we do know that there are people in the Liberal Party who do support one vote, one value. It may be surprising to learn that there are some people of principle within the midst of the Liberal Party. Jamie Kronborg, the state director of the National Party, went further. I quote from today’s The West Australian - Mr Kronborg said that despite the Liberal Party’s opposition to the Government’s proposed electoral reforms, its leadership had been ambiguous on the issue in the past. He understood some Liberal MLCs might be toying with the idea of crossing the floor when the debate reached the Upper House. It seems that in the midst of the Liberal Party are a few people of principle; it is an extraordinary revelation. A government member: Who are they? Dr GALLOP: I think one of them might be the Leader of the Opposition. On 17 April, the Leader of the Opposition was interviewed by Paul Murray on radio station 6PR. In that interview the Leader of the Opposition said - . . . there is a mis-weighting of electorates. Members should listen carefully to this, especially members of the National Party. It continues - For example, in the state seat of Wanneroo there are 36,000 voters, in the seat of Eyre there are 9,600. So clearly there is an inequality there. Paul Murray asked the obvious question - But you support some change there, don’t you? The Leader of the Opposition replied - Yes, I think there is a case for re-examining it. The Leader of the Opposition then went on to note that the principle of one vote, one value has a solid basis behind it. He said that the issue was the percentage of deviation that could be allowed for particular seats. At the commonwealth level - Mr Day interjected. Dr GALLOP: Within the framework of the current system. The Leader of the Opposition talked about malapportionment. He said that there might be room for a deviation of plus or minus 10 per cent at the commonwealth level. In 1995, the Liberal Party and the National Party supported a deviation of plus or minus 20 per cent. The Leader of the Opposition also said that there might be a case for a deviation of plus or minus 25 per cent. What is the position of the Leader of the Opposition? Will he discuss with the Labor Party the ranges of deviation that would be necessary to achieve one vote, one value? Mr Barnett: Let’s hold a referendum. Dr GALLOP: Let us hold a referendum! On 17 April the Leader of the Opposition supported one vote, one value. I will give a guarantee that if the Leader of the Opposition were willing to speak to us about the extent of tolerance, we would be only too happy to talk about those other matters. Mr Barnett: Bring on a debate in Parliament now. Dr GALLOP: Will the Leader of the Opposition talk to the Labor Party about the issue of a deviation of plus or minus 20 or 25 per cent? Last week he cried crocodile tears; he actually supports one vote, one value. I will give some advice to the leaders of the National Party and the Liberal Party that will be in their best interests. It is sad to see the coalition break up; however, there is a basis upon which they can reunite. Both the Leader of the National Party and the Leader of the Opposition support the abolition of the Legislative Council. Perhaps they can get together on that issue and abolish all the regional representation that is currently in the Legislative Council.
Dr GALLOP replied: I note that relations between the National Party and the Liberal Party are testy and strained. I am not surprised because there is a new alliance between the Liberal Party and One Nation. As the Leader of the National Party knows, the objective of One Nation is to get rid of the National Party. It is a funny coalition. The National Party does not trust the Liberal Party. The President of the National Party recently said on an ABC radio station - . . . we do know that there are people in the Liberal Party who do support one vote, one value. It may be surprising to learn that there are some people of principle within the midst of the Liberal Party. Jamie Kronborg, the state director of the National Party, went further. I quote from today’s The West Australian - Mr Kronborg said that despite the Liberal Party’s opposition to the Government’s proposed electoral reforms, its leadership had been ambiguous on the issue in the past. He understood some Liberal MLCs might be toying with the idea of crossing the floor when the debate reached the Upper House. It seems that in the midst of the Liberal Party are a few people of principle; it is an extraordinary revelation. A government member: Who are they? Dr GALLOP: I think one of them might be the Leader of the Opposition. On 17 April, the Leader of the Opposition was interviewed by Paul Murray on radio station 6PR. In that interview the Leader of the Opposition said - . . . there is a mis-weighting of electorates. Members should listen carefully to this, especially members of the National Party. It continues - For example, in the state seat of Wanneroo there are 36,000 voters, in the seat of Eyre there are 9,600. So clearly there is an inequality there. Paul Murray asked the obvious question - But you support some change there, don’t you? The Leader of the Opposition replied - Yes, I think there is a case for re-examining it. The Leader of the Opposition then went on to note that the principle of one vote, one value has a solid basis behind it. He said that the issue was the percentage of deviation that could be allowed for particular seats. At the commonwealth level - Mr Day interjected. Dr GALLOP: Within the framework of the current system. The Leader of the Opposition talked about malapportionment. He said that there might be room for a deviation of plus or minus 10 per cent at the commonwealth level. In 1995, the Liberal Party and the National Party supported a deviation of plus or minus 20 per cent. The Leader of the Opposition also said that there might be a case for a deviation of plus or minus 25 per cent. What is the position of the Leader of the Opposition? Will he discuss with the Labor Party the ranges of deviation that would be necessary to achieve one vote, one value? Mr Barnett: Let’s hold a referendum. Dr GALLOP: Let us hold a referendum! On 17 April the Leader of the Opposition supported one vote, one value. I will give a guarantee that if the Leader of the Opposition were willing to speak to us about the extent of tolerance, we would be only too happy to talk about those other matters. Mr Barnett: Bring on a debate in Parliament now. Dr GALLOP: Will the Leader of the Opposition talk to the Labor Party about the issue of a deviation of plus or minus 20 or 25 per cent? Last week he cried crocodile tears; he actually supports one vote, one value. I will give some advice to the leaders of the National Party and the Liberal Party that will be in their best interests. It is sad to see the coalition break up; however, there is a basis upon which they can reunite. Both the Leader of the National Party and the Leader of the Opposition support the abolition of the Legislative Council. Perhaps they can get together on that issue and abolish all the regional representation that is currently in the Legislative Council.
I note that relations between the National Party and the Liberal Party are testy and strained. I am not surprised because there is a new alliance between the Liberal Party and One Nation. As the Leader of the National Party knows, the objective of One Nation is to get rid of the National Party. It is a funny coalition. The National Party does not trust the Liberal Party. The President of the National Party recently said on an ABC radio station - . . . we do know that there are people in the Liberal Party who do support one vote, one value. It may be surprising to learn that there are some people of principle within the midst of the Liberal Party. Jamie Kronborg, the state director of the National Party, went further. I quote from today’s The West Australian - Mr Kronborg said that despite the Liberal Party’s opposition to the Government’s proposed electoral reforms, its leadership had been ambiguous on the issue in the past. He understood some Liberal MLCs might be toying with the idea of crossing the floor when the debate reached the Upper House. It seems that in the midst of the Liberal Party are a few people of principle; it is an extraordinary revelation. A government member: Who are they? Dr GALLOP: I think one of them might be the Leader of the Opposition. On 17 April, the Leader of the Opposition was interviewed by Paul Murray on radio station 6PR. In that interview the Leader of the Opposition said - . . . there is a mis-weighting of electorates. Members should listen carefully to this, especially members of the National Party. It continues - For example, in the state seat of Wanneroo there are 36,000 voters, in the seat of Eyre there are 9,600. So clearly there is an inequality there. Paul Murray asked the obvious question - But you support some change there, don’t you? The Leader of the Opposition replied - Yes, I think there is a case for re-examining it. The Leader of the Opposition then went on to note that the principle of one vote, one value has a solid basis behind it. He said that the issue was the percentage of deviation that could be allowed for particular seats. At the commonwealth level - Mr Day interjected. Dr GALLOP: Within the framework of the current system. The Leader of the Opposition talked about malapportionment. He said that there might be room for a deviation of plus or minus 10 per cent at the commonwealth level. In 1995, the Liberal Party and the National Party supported a deviation of plus or minus 20 per cent. The Leader of the Opposition also said that there might be a case for a deviation of plus or minus 25 per cent. What is the position of the Leader of the Opposition? Will he discuss with the Labor Party the ranges of deviation that would be necessary to achieve one vote, one value? Mr Barnett: Let’s hold a referendum. Dr GALLOP: Let us hold a referendum! On 17 April the Leader of the Opposition supported one vote, one value. I will give a guarantee that if the Leader of the Opposition were willing to speak to us about the extent of tolerance, we would be only too happy to talk about those other matters. Mr Barnett: Bring on a debate in Parliament now. Dr GALLOP: Will the Leader of the Opposition talk to the Labor Party about the issue of a deviation of plus or minus 20 or 25 per cent? Last week he cried crocodile tears; he actually supports one vote, one value. I will give some advice to the leaders of the National Party and the Liberal Party that will be in their best interests. It is sad to see the coalition break up; however, there is a basis upon which they can reunite. Both the Leader of the National Party and the Leader of the Opposition support the abolition of the Legislative Council. Perhaps they can get together on that issue and abolish all the regional representation that is currently in the Legislative Council.
He understood some Liberal MLCs might be toying with the idea of crossing the floor when the debate reached the Upper House.
A government member: Who are they? Dr GALLOP: I think one of them might be the Leader of the Opposition. On 17 April, the Leader of the Opposition was interviewed by Paul Murray on radio station 6PR. In that interview the Leader of the Opposition said - . . . there is a mis-weighting of electorates. Members should listen carefully to this, especially members of the National Party. It continues - For example, in the state seat of Wanneroo there are 36,000 voters, in the seat of Eyre there are 9,600. So clearly there is an inequality there. Paul Murray asked the obvious question - But you support some change there, don’t you? The Leader of the Opposition replied - Yes, I think there is a case for re-examining it. The Leader of the Opposition then went on to note that the principle of one vote, one value has a solid basis behind it. He said that the issue was the percentage of deviation that could be allowed for particular seats. At the commonwealth level - Mr Day interjected. Dr GALLOP: Within the framework of the current system. The Leader of the Opposition talked about malapportionment. He said that there might be room for a deviation of plus or minus 10 per cent at the commonwealth level. In 1995, the Liberal Party and the National Party supported a deviation of plus or minus 20 per cent. The Leader of the Opposition also said that there might be a case for a deviation of plus or minus 25 per cent. What is the position of the Leader of the Opposition? Will he discuss with the Labor Party the ranges of deviation that would be necessary to achieve one vote, one value? Mr Barnett: Let’s hold a referendum. Dr GALLOP: Let us hold a referendum! On 17 April the Leader of the Opposition supported one vote, one value. I will give a guarantee that if the Leader of the Opposition were willing to speak to us about the extent of tolerance, we would be only too happy to talk about those other matters. Mr Barnett: Bring on a debate in Parliament now. Dr GALLOP: Will the Leader of the Opposition talk to the Labor Party about the issue of a deviation of plus or minus 20 or 25 per cent? Last week he cried crocodile tears; he actually supports one vote, one value. I will give some advice to the leaders of the National Party and the Liberal Party that will be in their best interests. It is sad to see the coalition break up; however, there is a basis upon which they can reunite. Both the Leader of the National Party and the Leader of the Opposition support the abolition of the Legislative Council. Perhaps they can get together on that issue and abolish all the regional representation that is currently in the Legislative Council.
Dr GALLOP: I think one of them might be the Leader of the Opposition. On 17 April, the Leader of the Opposition was interviewed by Paul Murray on radio station 6PR. In that interview the Leader of the Opposition said - . . . there is a mis-weighting of electorates. Members should listen carefully to this, especially members of the National Party. It continues - For example, in the state seat of Wanneroo there are 36,000 voters, in the seat of Eyre there are 9,600. So clearly there is an inequality there. Paul Murray asked the obvious question - But you support some change there, don’t you? The Leader of the Opposition replied - Yes, I think there is a case for re-examining it. The Leader of the Opposition then went on to note that the principle of one vote, one value has a solid basis behind it. He said that the issue was the percentage of deviation that could be allowed for particular seats. At the commonwealth level - Mr Day interjected. Dr GALLOP: Within the framework of the current system. The Leader of the Opposition talked about malapportionment. He said that there might be room for a deviation of plus or minus 10 per cent at the commonwealth level. In 1995, the Liberal Party and the National Party supported a deviation of plus or minus 20 per cent. The Leader of the Opposition also said that there might be a case for a deviation of plus or minus 25 per cent. What is the position of the Leader of the Opposition? Will he discuss with the Labor Party the ranges of deviation that would be necessary to achieve one vote, one value? Mr Barnett: Let’s hold a referendum. Dr GALLOP: Let us hold a referendum! On 17 April the Leader of the Opposition supported one vote, one value. I will give a guarantee that if the Leader of the Opposition were willing to speak to us about the extent of tolerance, we would be only too happy to talk about those other matters. Mr Barnett: Bring on a debate in Parliament now. Dr GALLOP: Will the Leader of the Opposition talk to the Labor Party about the issue of a deviation of plus or minus 20 or 25 per cent? Last week he cried crocodile tears; he actually supports one vote, one value. I will give some advice to the leaders of the National Party and the Liberal Party that will be in their best interests. It is sad to see the coalition break up; however, there is a basis upon which they can reunite. Both the Leader of the National Party and the Leader of the Opposition support the abolition of the Legislative Council. Perhaps they can get together on that issue and abolish all the regional representation that is currently in the Legislative Council.
Yes, I think there is a case for re-examining it. The Leader of the Opposition then went on to note that the principle of one vote, one value has a solid basis behind it. He said that the issue was the percentage of deviation that could be allowed for particular seats. At the commonwealth level - Mr Day interjected. Dr GALLOP: Within the framework of the current system. The Leader of the Opposition talked about malapportionment. He said that there might be room for a deviation of plus or minus 10 per cent at the commonwealth level. In 1995, the Liberal Party and the National Party supported a deviation of plus or minus 20 per cent. The Leader of the Opposition also said that there might be a case for a deviation of plus or minus 25 per cent. What is the position of the Leader of the Opposition? Will he discuss with the Labor Party the ranges of deviation that would be necessary to achieve one vote, one value? Mr Barnett: Let’s hold a referendum. Dr GALLOP: Let us hold a referendum! On 17 April the Leader of the Opposition supported one vote, one value. I will give a guarantee that if the Leader of the Opposition were willing to speak to us about the extent of tolerance, we would be only too happy to talk about those other matters. Mr Barnett: Bring on a debate in Parliament now. Dr GALLOP: Will the Leader of the Opposition talk to the Labor Party about the issue of a deviation of plus or minus 20 or 25 per cent? Last week he cried crocodile tears; he actually supports one vote, one value. I will give some advice to the leaders of the National Party and the Liberal Party that will be in their best interests. It is sad to see the coalition break up; however, there is a basis upon which they can reunite. Both the Leader of the National Party and the Leader of the Opposition support the abolition of the Legislative Council. Perhaps they can get together on that issue and abolish all the regional representation that is currently in the Legislative Council.
The Leader of the Opposition then went on to note that the principle of one vote, one value has a solid basis behind it. He said that the issue was the percentage of deviation that could be allowed for particular seats. At the commonwealth level - Mr Day interjected. Dr GALLOP: Within the framework of the current system. The Leader of the Opposition talked about malapportionment. He said that there might be room for a deviation of plus or minus 10 per cent at the commonwealth level. In 1995, the Liberal Party and the National Party supported a deviation of plus or minus 20 per cent. The Leader of the Opposition also said that there might be a case for a deviation of plus or minus 25 per cent. What is the position of the Leader of the Opposition? Will he discuss with the Labor Party the ranges of deviation that would be necessary to achieve one vote, one value? Mr Barnett: Let’s hold a referendum. Dr GALLOP: Let us hold a referendum! On 17 April the Leader of the Opposition supported one vote, one value. I will give a guarantee that if the Leader of the Opposition were willing to speak to us about the extent of tolerance, we would be only too happy to talk about those other matters. Mr Barnett: Bring on a debate in Parliament now. Dr GALLOP: Will the Leader of the Opposition talk to the Labor Party about the issue of a deviation of plus or minus 20 or 25 per cent? Last week he cried crocodile tears; he actually supports one vote, one value. I will give some advice to the leaders of the National Party and the Liberal Party that will be in their best interests. It is sad to see the coalition break up; however, there is a basis upon which they can reunite. Both the Leader of the National Party and the Leader of the Opposition support the abolition of the Legislative Council. Perhaps they can get together on that issue and abolish all the regional representation that is currently in the Legislative Council.
Mr Day interjected. Dr GALLOP: Within the framework of the current system. The Leader of the Opposition talked about malapportionment. He said that there might be room for a deviation of plus or minus 10 per cent at the commonwealth level. In 1995, the Liberal Party and the National Party supported a deviation of plus or minus 20 per cent. The Leader of the Opposition also said that there might be a case for a deviation of plus or minus 25 per cent. What is the position of the Leader of the Opposition? Will he discuss with the Labor Party the ranges of deviation that would be necessary to achieve one vote, one value? Mr Barnett: Let’s hold a referendum. Dr GALLOP: Let us hold a referendum! On 17 April the Leader of the Opposition supported one vote, one value. I will give a guarantee that if the Leader of the Opposition were willing to speak to us about the extent of tolerance, we would be only too happy to talk about those other matters. Mr Barnett: Bring on a debate in Parliament now. Dr GALLOP: Will the Leader of the Opposition talk to the Labor Party about the issue of a deviation of plus or minus 20 or 25 per cent? Last week he cried crocodile tears; he actually supports one vote, one value. I will give some advice to the leaders of the National Party and the Liberal Party that will be in their best interests. It is sad to see the coalition break up; however, there is a basis upon which they can reunite. Both the Leader of the National Party and the Leader of the Opposition support the abolition of the Legislative Council. Perhaps they can get together on that issue and abolish all the regional representation that is currently in the Legislative Council.
Dr GALLOP: Within the framework of the current system. The Leader of the Opposition talked about malapportionment. He said that there might be room for a deviation of plus or minus 10 per cent at the commonwealth level. In 1995, the Liberal Party and the National Party supported a deviation of plus or minus 20 per cent. The Leader of the Opposition also said that there might be a case for a deviation of plus or minus 25 per cent. What is the position of the Leader of the Opposition? Will he discuss with the Labor Party the ranges of deviation that would be necessary to achieve one vote, one value? Mr Barnett: Let’s hold a referendum. Dr GALLOP: Let us hold a referendum! On 17 April the Leader of the Opposition supported one vote, one value. I will give a guarantee that if the Leader of the Opposition were willing to speak to us about the extent of tolerance, we would be only too happy to talk about those other matters. Mr Barnett: Bring on a debate in Parliament now. Dr GALLOP: Will the Leader of the Opposition talk to the Labor Party about the issue of a deviation of plus or minus 20 or 25 per cent? Last week he cried crocodile tears; he actually supports one vote, one value. I will give some advice to the leaders of the National Party and the Liberal Party that will be in their best interests. It is sad to see the coalition break up; however, there is a basis upon which they can reunite. Both the Leader of the National Party and the Leader of the Opposition support the abolition of the Legislative Council. Perhaps they can get together on that issue and abolish all the regional representation that is currently in the Legislative Council.
The Leader of the Opposition talked about malapportionment. He said that there might be room for a deviation of plus or minus 10 per cent at the commonwealth level. In 1995, the Liberal Party and the National Party supported a deviation of plus or minus 20 per cent. The Leader of the Opposition also said that there might be a case for a deviation of plus or minus 25 per cent. What is the position of the Leader of the Opposition? Will he discuss with the Labor Party the ranges of deviation that would be necessary to achieve one vote, one value? Mr Barnett: Let’s hold a referendum. Dr GALLOP: Let us hold a referendum! On 17 April the Leader of the Opposition supported one vote, one value. I will give a guarantee that if the Leader of the Opposition were willing to speak to us about the extent of tolerance, we would be only too happy to talk about those other matters. Mr Barnett: Bring on a debate in Parliament now. Dr GALLOP: Will the Leader of the Opposition talk to the Labor Party about the issue of a deviation of plus or minus 20 or 25 per cent? Last week he cried crocodile tears; he actually supports one vote, one value. I will give some advice to the leaders of the National Party and the Liberal Party that will be in their best interests. It is sad to see the coalition break up; however, there is a basis upon which they can reunite. Both the Leader of the National Party and the Leader of the Opposition support the abolition of the Legislative Council. Perhaps they can get together on that issue and abolish all the regional representation that is currently in the Legislative Council.
Mr Barnett: Let’s hold a referendum. Dr GALLOP: Let us hold a referendum! On 17 April the Leader of the Opposition supported one vote, one value. I will give a guarantee that if the Leader of the Opposition were willing to speak to us about the extent of tolerance, we would be only too happy to talk about those other matters. Mr Barnett: Bring on a debate in Parliament now. Dr GALLOP: Will the Leader of the Opposition talk to the Labor Party about the issue of a deviation of plus or minus 20 or 25 per cent? Last week he cried crocodile tears; he actually supports one vote, one value. I will give some advice to the leaders of the National Party and the Liberal Party that will be in their best interests. It is sad to see the coalition break up; however, there is a basis upon which they can reunite. Both the Leader of the National Party and the Leader of the Opposition support the abolition of the Legislative Council. Perhaps they can get together on that issue and abolish all the regional representation that is currently in the Legislative Council.
Dr GALLOP: Let us hold a referendum! On 17 April the Leader of the Opposition supported one vote, one value. I will give a guarantee that if the Leader of the Opposition were willing to speak to us about the extent of tolerance, we would be only too happy to talk about those other matters. Mr Barnett: Bring on a debate in Parliament now. Dr GALLOP: Will the Leader of the Opposition talk to the Labor Party about the issue of a deviation of plus or minus 20 or 25 per cent? Last week he cried crocodile tears; he actually supports one vote, one value. I will give some advice to the leaders of the National Party and the Liberal Party that will be in their best interests. It is sad to see the coalition break up; however, there is a basis upon which they can reunite. Both the Leader of the National Party and the Leader of the Opposition support the abolition of the Legislative Council. Perhaps they can get together on that issue and abolish all the regional representation that is currently in the Legislative Council.
Mr Barnett: Bring on a debate in Parliament now. Dr GALLOP: Will the Leader of the Opposition talk to the Labor Party about the issue of a deviation of plus or minus 20 or 25 per cent? Last week he cried crocodile tears; he actually supports one vote, one value. I will give some advice to the leaders of the National Party and the Liberal Party that will be in their best interests. It is sad to see the coalition break up; however, there is a basis upon which they can reunite. Both the Leader of the National Party and the Leader of the Opposition support the abolition of the Legislative Council. Perhaps they can get together on that issue and abolish all the regional representation that is currently in the Legislative Council.
Dr GALLOP: Will the Leader of the Opposition talk to the Labor Party about the issue of a deviation of plus or minus 20 or 25 per cent? Last week he cried crocodile tears; he actually supports one vote, one value. I will give some advice to the leaders of the National Party and the Liberal Party that will be in their best interests. It is sad to see the coalition break up; however, there is a basis upon which they can reunite. Both the Leader of the National Party and the Leader of the Opposition support the abolition of the Legislative Council. Perhaps they can get together on that issue and abolish all the regional representation that is currently in the Legislative Council.

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