❓ Minister Collier denies considering or announcing a new school-based apprenticeship system, refuting claims made by Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich and accusing her of peddling misinformation regarding apprenticeship cancellations and government proposals.
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SCHOOL-BASED APPRENTICESHIP SYSTEM
Due to the ongoing confusion about school-based apprenticeships, will the minister please confirm whether or not the government intends to move apprenticeships into schools? Hon PETER COLLIER
Due to the ongoing confusion about school-based apprenticeships, will the minister please confirm whether or not the government intends to move apprenticeships into schools? Hon PETER COLLIER
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I thank the honourable member for the question. I understand her confusion, although she really should not be confused, just as everyone in this chamber should not be confused, given the response that I gave to Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich yesterday about a purported new school-based apprenticeship system. I said not once but twice in my response that, firstly, I have not considered a new school-based apprenticeship system and, secondly, I have not made an announcement on a new school-based apprenticeship system. No-one in this chamber should have had any confusion about that. Is that correct? Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Good. Everyone was concentrating. It appears that everyone in this chamber was concentrating, apart from the very person who asked that original question. I thought I had made it quite clear that, firstly, I had made no announcement and, secondly, I was not considering it, yet Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich put out a media statement today, after having received my response yesterday, headed “Classroom apprenticeship plan dismissed”. It states — The Barnett Government’s proposal to move apprentices into classrooms may place the future of the apprenticeship system at risk, Shadow Training Minister Ljiljanna Ravlich said today. Ms Ravlich said the radical proposal by the Master Builders Association (MBA) to be considered by Training Minister Peter Collier was more about the financial interests of the MBA rather than any benefit for apprentices. I say yet again that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich simply does not listen, and this is not the first time. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT (Hon Matt Benson-Lidholm) : I am trying to listen, so I ask members to tone it down for a second. Hon PETER COLLIER : I do not necessarily want to go down this path, but the simple fact of the matter is that, once again, Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is basically peddling misinformation. This media release is blatantly wrong. I stated in this chamber yesterday that, firstly, I had not made an announcement about school-based apprenticeships and, secondly, we were not considering it. The MBA put out a paper about school-based apprenticeships, which I have not seen and certainly am not considering. I have asked the department to look at changes to and more flexibility for apprenticeships and to perhaps look at more institution-based apprenticeships, not school-based apprenticeships. It is abject nonsense. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is not doing her homework, and, as a result, she continues to peddle misinformation. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I will clarify another matter in the media release, which goes on to state — … the Minister has turned his back on 2775 apprentices that had been sacked or had dropped their training, … I have to repeat this yet again. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is calling out. She does not do her homework. I am going to send her outside! She is wrong again. That is why she got sacked. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! Let us be reasonable. Hon PETER COLLIER : I will wrap up. Suffice to say, 2 500 apprentices have not been sacked. Just 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2008, so 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2009. That means that those people commenced an apprenticeship, but decided that they would go on to something else. A small proportion of those apprentices left as a result of the economic downturn and decided that they had had enough and would move on to something else. The figures for this year are not dissimilar to the figures for last year. We have been proactive in training. We have provided almost $50 million to help with a stimulus package, which includes fee-free exemptions for the unemployed and workers’ compensation payments for first-year apprentices. The government has created a new department that will provide a seamless transition from training to the workplace. However, we must not be sidetracked by misinformation from Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, because all it does is undermine training, and I do not want to see that happen.
Hon PETER COLLIER replied: I thank the honourable member for the question. I understand her confusion, although she really should not be confused, just as everyone in this chamber should not be confused, given the response that I gave to Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich yesterday about a purported new school-based apprenticeship system. I said not once but twice in my response that, firstly, I have not considered a new school-based apprenticeship system and, secondly, I have not made an announcement on a new school-based apprenticeship system. No-one in this chamber should have had any confusion about that. Is that correct? Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Good. Everyone was concentrating. It appears that everyone in this chamber was concentrating, apart from the very person who asked that original question. I thought I had made it quite clear that, firstly, I had made no announcement and, secondly, I was not considering it, yet Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich put out a media statement today, after having received my response yesterday, headed “Classroom apprenticeship plan dismissed”. It states — The Barnett Government’s proposal to move apprentices into classrooms may place the future of the apprenticeship system at risk, Shadow Training Minister Ljiljanna Ravlich said today. Ms Ravlich said the radical proposal by the Master Builders Association (MBA) to be considered by Training Minister Peter Collier was more about the financial interests of the MBA rather than any benefit for apprentices. I say yet again that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich simply does not listen, and this is not the first time. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT (Hon Matt Benson-Lidholm) : I am trying to listen, so I ask members to tone it down for a second. Hon PETER COLLIER : I do not necessarily want to go down this path, but the simple fact of the matter is that, once again, Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is basically peddling misinformation. This media release is blatantly wrong. I stated in this chamber yesterday that, firstly, I had not made an announcement about school-based apprenticeships and, secondly, we were not considering it. The MBA put out a paper about school-based apprenticeships, which I have not seen and certainly am not considering. I have asked the department to look at changes to and more flexibility for apprenticeships and to perhaps look at more institution-based apprenticeships, not school-based apprenticeships. It is abject nonsense. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is not doing her homework, and, as a result, she continues to peddle misinformation. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I will clarify another matter in the media release, which goes on to state — … the Minister has turned his back on 2775 apprentices that had been sacked or had dropped their training, … I have to repeat this yet again. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is calling out. She does not do her homework. I am going to send her outside! She is wrong again. That is why she got sacked. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! Let us be reasonable. Hon PETER COLLIER : I will wrap up. Suffice to say, 2 500 apprentices have not been sacked. Just 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2008, so 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2009. That means that those people commenced an apprenticeship, but decided that they would go on to something else. A small proportion of those apprentices left as a result of the economic downturn and decided that they had had enough and would move on to something else. The figures for this year are not dissimilar to the figures for last year. We have been proactive in training. We have provided almost $50 million to help with a stimulus package, which includes fee-free exemptions for the unemployed and workers’ compensation payments for first-year apprentices. The government has created a new department that will provide a seamless transition from training to the workplace. However, we must not be sidetracked by misinformation from Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, because all it does is undermine training, and I do not want to see that happen.
I thank the honourable member for the question. I understand her confusion, although she really should not be confused, just as everyone in this chamber should not be confused, given the response that I gave to Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich yesterday about a purported new school-based apprenticeship system. I said not once but twice in my response that, firstly, I have not considered a new school-based apprenticeship system and, secondly, I have not made an announcement on a new school-based apprenticeship system. No-one in this chamber should have had any confusion about that. Is that correct? Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Good. Everyone was concentrating. It appears that everyone in this chamber was concentrating, apart from the very person who asked that original question. I thought I had made it quite clear that, firstly, I had made no announcement and, secondly, I was not considering it, yet Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich put out a media statement today, after having received my response yesterday, headed “Classroom apprenticeship plan dismissed”. It states — The Barnett Government’s proposal to move apprentices into classrooms may place the future of the apprenticeship system at risk, Shadow Training Minister Ljiljanna Ravlich said today. Ms Ravlich said the radical proposal by the Master Builders Association (MBA) to be considered by Training Minister Peter Collier was more about the financial interests of the MBA rather than any benefit for apprentices. I say yet again that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich simply does not listen, and this is not the first time. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT (Hon Matt Benson-Lidholm) : I am trying to listen, so I ask members to tone it down for a second. Hon PETER COLLIER : I do not necessarily want to go down this path, but the simple fact of the matter is that, once again, Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is basically peddling misinformation. This media release is blatantly wrong. I stated in this chamber yesterday that, firstly, I had not made an announcement about school-based apprenticeships and, secondly, we were not considering it. The MBA put out a paper about school-based apprenticeships, which I have not seen and certainly am not considering. I have asked the department to look at changes to and more flexibility for apprenticeships and to perhaps look at more institution-based apprenticeships, not school-based apprenticeships. It is abject nonsense. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is not doing her homework, and, as a result, she continues to peddle misinformation. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I will clarify another matter in the media release, which goes on to state — … the Minister has turned his back on 2775 apprentices that had been sacked or had dropped their training, … I have to repeat this yet again. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is calling out. She does not do her homework. I am going to send her outside! She is wrong again. That is why she got sacked. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! Let us be reasonable. Hon PETER COLLIER : I will wrap up. Suffice to say, 2 500 apprentices have not been sacked. Just 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2008, so 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2009. That means that those people commenced an apprenticeship, but decided that they would go on to something else. A small proportion of those apprentices left as a result of the economic downturn and decided that they had had enough and would move on to something else. The figures for this year are not dissimilar to the figures for last year. We have been proactive in training. We have provided almost $50 million to help with a stimulus package, which includes fee-free exemptions for the unemployed and workers’ compensation payments for first-year apprentices. The government has created a new department that will provide a seamless transition from training to the workplace. However, we must not be sidetracked by misinformation from Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, because all it does is undermine training, and I do not want to see that happen.
Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Good. Everyone was concentrating. It appears that everyone in this chamber was concentrating, apart from the very person who asked that original question. I thought I had made it quite clear that, firstly, I had made no announcement and, secondly, I was not considering it, yet Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich put out a media statement today, after having received my response yesterday, headed “Classroom apprenticeship plan dismissed”. It states — The Barnett Government’s proposal to move apprentices into classrooms may place the future of the apprenticeship system at risk, Shadow Training Minister Ljiljanna Ravlich said today. Ms Ravlich said the radical proposal by the Master Builders Association (MBA) to be considered by Training Minister Peter Collier was more about the financial interests of the MBA rather than any benefit for apprentices. I say yet again that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich simply does not listen, and this is not the first time. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT (Hon Matt Benson-Lidholm) : I am trying to listen, so I ask members to tone it down for a second. Hon PETER COLLIER : I do not necessarily want to go down this path, but the simple fact of the matter is that, once again, Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is basically peddling misinformation. This media release is blatantly wrong. I stated in this chamber yesterday that, firstly, I had not made an announcement about school-based apprenticeships and, secondly, we were not considering it. The MBA put out a paper about school-based apprenticeships, which I have not seen and certainly am not considering. I have asked the department to look at changes to and more flexibility for apprenticeships and to perhaps look at more institution-based apprenticeships, not school-based apprenticeships. It is abject nonsense. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is not doing her homework, and, as a result, she continues to peddle misinformation. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I will clarify another matter in the media release, which goes on to state — … the Minister has turned his back on 2775 apprentices that had been sacked or had dropped their training, … I have to repeat this yet again. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is calling out. She does not do her homework. I am going to send her outside! She is wrong again. That is why she got sacked. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! Let us be reasonable. Hon PETER COLLIER : I will wrap up. Suffice to say, 2 500 apprentices have not been sacked. Just 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2008, so 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2009. That means that those people commenced an apprenticeship, but decided that they would go on to something else. A small proportion of those apprentices left as a result of the economic downturn and decided that they had had enough and would move on to something else. The figures for this year are not dissimilar to the figures for last year. We have been proactive in training. We have provided almost $50 million to help with a stimulus package, which includes fee-free exemptions for the unemployed and workers’ compensation payments for first-year apprentices. The government has created a new department that will provide a seamless transition from training to the workplace. However, we must not be sidetracked by misinformation from Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, because all it does is undermine training, and I do not want to see that happen.
Hon PETER COLLIER : Good. Everyone was concentrating. It appears that everyone in this chamber was concentrating, apart from the very person who asked that original question. I thought I had made it quite clear that, firstly, I had made no announcement and, secondly, I was not considering it, yet Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich put out a media statement today, after having received my response yesterday, headed “Classroom apprenticeship plan dismissed”. It states — The Barnett Government’s proposal to move apprentices into classrooms may place the future of the apprenticeship system at risk, Shadow Training Minister Ljiljanna Ravlich said today. Ms Ravlich said the radical proposal by the Master Builders Association (MBA) to be considered by Training Minister Peter Collier was more about the financial interests of the MBA rather than any benefit for apprentices. I say yet again that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich simply does not listen, and this is not the first time. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT (Hon Matt Benson-Lidholm) : I am trying to listen, so I ask members to tone it down for a second. Hon PETER COLLIER : I do not necessarily want to go down this path, but the simple fact of the matter is that, once again, Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is basically peddling misinformation. This media release is blatantly wrong. I stated in this chamber yesterday that, firstly, I had not made an announcement about school-based apprenticeships and, secondly, we were not considering it. The MBA put out a paper about school-based apprenticeships, which I have not seen and certainly am not considering. I have asked the department to look at changes to and more flexibility for apprenticeships and to perhaps look at more institution-based apprenticeships, not school-based apprenticeships. It is abject nonsense. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is not doing her homework, and, as a result, she continues to peddle misinformation. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I will clarify another matter in the media release, which goes on to state — … the Minister has turned his back on 2775 apprentices that had been sacked or had dropped their training, … I have to repeat this yet again. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is calling out. She does not do her homework. I am going to send her outside! She is wrong again. That is why she got sacked. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! Let us be reasonable. Hon PETER COLLIER : I will wrap up. Suffice to say, 2 500 apprentices have not been sacked. Just 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2008, so 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2009. That means that those people commenced an apprenticeship, but decided that they would go on to something else. A small proportion of those apprentices left as a result of the economic downturn and decided that they had had enough and would move on to something else. The figures for this year are not dissimilar to the figures for last year. We have been proactive in training. We have provided almost $50 million to help with a stimulus package, which includes fee-free exemptions for the unemployed and workers’ compensation payments for first-year apprentices. The government has created a new department that will provide a seamless transition from training to the workplace. However, we must not be sidetracked by misinformation from Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, because all it does is undermine training, and I do not want to see that happen.
Ms Ravlich said the radical proposal by the Master Builders Association (MBA) to be considered by Training Minister Peter Collier was more about the financial interests of the MBA rather than any benefit for apprentices.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT (Hon Matt Benson-Lidholm) : I am trying to listen, so I ask members to tone it down for a second. Hon PETER COLLIER : I do not necessarily want to go down this path, but the simple fact of the matter is that, once again, Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is basically peddling misinformation. This media release is blatantly wrong. I stated in this chamber yesterday that, firstly, I had not made an announcement about school-based apprenticeships and, secondly, we were not considering it. The MBA put out a paper about school-based apprenticeships, which I have not seen and certainly am not considering. I have asked the department to look at changes to and more flexibility for apprenticeships and to perhaps look at more institution-based apprenticeships, not school-based apprenticeships. It is abject nonsense. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is not doing her homework, and, as a result, she continues to peddle misinformation. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I will clarify another matter in the media release, which goes on to state — … the Minister has turned his back on 2775 apprentices that had been sacked or had dropped their training, … I have to repeat this yet again. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is calling out. She does not do her homework. I am going to send her outside! She is wrong again. That is why she got sacked. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! Let us be reasonable. Hon PETER COLLIER : I will wrap up. Suffice to say, 2 500 apprentices have not been sacked. Just 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2008, so 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2009. That means that those people commenced an apprenticeship, but decided that they would go on to something else. A small proportion of those apprentices left as a result of the economic downturn and decided that they had had enough and would move on to something else. The figures for this year are not dissimilar to the figures for last year. We have been proactive in training. We have provided almost $50 million to help with a stimulus package, which includes fee-free exemptions for the unemployed and workers’ compensation payments for first-year apprentices. The government has created a new department that will provide a seamless transition from training to the workplace. However, we must not be sidetracked by misinformation from Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, because all it does is undermine training, and I do not want to see that happen.
The DEPUTY PRESIDENT (Hon Matt Benson-Lidholm) : I am trying to listen, so I ask members to tone it down for a second. Hon PETER COLLIER : I do not necessarily want to go down this path, but the simple fact of the matter is that, once again, Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is basically peddling misinformation. This media release is blatantly wrong. I stated in this chamber yesterday that, firstly, I had not made an announcement about school-based apprenticeships and, secondly, we were not considering it. The MBA put out a paper about school-based apprenticeships, which I have not seen and certainly am not considering. I have asked the department to look at changes to and more flexibility for apprenticeships and to perhaps look at more institution-based apprenticeships, not school-based apprenticeships. It is abject nonsense. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is not doing her homework, and, as a result, she continues to peddle misinformation. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I will clarify another matter in the media release, which goes on to state — … the Minister has turned his back on 2775 apprentices that had been sacked or had dropped their training, … I have to repeat this yet again. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is calling out. She does not do her homework. I am going to send her outside! She is wrong again. That is why she got sacked. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! Let us be reasonable. Hon PETER COLLIER : I will wrap up. Suffice to say, 2 500 apprentices have not been sacked. Just 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2008, so 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2009. That means that those people commenced an apprenticeship, but decided that they would go on to something else. A small proportion of those apprentices left as a result of the economic downturn and decided that they had had enough and would move on to something else. The figures for this year are not dissimilar to the figures for last year. We have been proactive in training. We have provided almost $50 million to help with a stimulus package, which includes fee-free exemptions for the unemployed and workers’ compensation payments for first-year apprentices. The government has created a new department that will provide a seamless transition from training to the workplace. However, we must not be sidetracked by misinformation from Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, because all it does is undermine training, and I do not want to see that happen.
Hon PETER COLLIER : I do not necessarily want to go down this path, but the simple fact of the matter is that, once again, Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is basically peddling misinformation. This media release is blatantly wrong. I stated in this chamber yesterday that, firstly, I had not made an announcement about school-based apprenticeships and, secondly, we were not considering it. The MBA put out a paper about school-based apprenticeships, which I have not seen and certainly am not considering. I have asked the department to look at changes to and more flexibility for apprenticeships and to perhaps look at more institution-based apprenticeships, not school-based apprenticeships. It is abject nonsense. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is not doing her homework, and, as a result, she continues to peddle misinformation. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I will clarify another matter in the media release, which goes on to state — … the Minister has turned his back on 2775 apprentices that had been sacked or had dropped their training, … I have to repeat this yet again. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is calling out. She does not do her homework. I am going to send her outside! She is wrong again. That is why she got sacked. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! Let us be reasonable. Hon PETER COLLIER : I will wrap up. Suffice to say, 2 500 apprentices have not been sacked. Just 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2008, so 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2009. That means that those people commenced an apprenticeship, but decided that they would go on to something else. A small proportion of those apprentices left as a result of the economic downturn and decided that they had had enough and would move on to something else. The figures for this year are not dissimilar to the figures for last year. We have been proactive in training. We have provided almost $50 million to help with a stimulus package, which includes fee-free exemptions for the unemployed and workers’ compensation payments for first-year apprentices. The government has created a new department that will provide a seamless transition from training to the workplace. However, we must not be sidetracked by misinformation from Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, because all it does is undermine training, and I do not want to see that happen.
Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I will clarify another matter in the media release, which goes on to state — … the Minister has turned his back on 2775 apprentices that had been sacked or had dropped their training, … I have to repeat this yet again. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is calling out. She does not do her homework. I am going to send her outside! She is wrong again. That is why she got sacked. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! Let us be reasonable. Hon PETER COLLIER : I will wrap up. Suffice to say, 2 500 apprentices have not been sacked. Just 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2008, so 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2009. That means that those people commenced an apprenticeship, but decided that they would go on to something else. A small proportion of those apprentices left as a result of the economic downturn and decided that they had had enough and would move on to something else. The figures for this year are not dissimilar to the figures for last year. We have been proactive in training. We have provided almost $50 million to help with a stimulus package, which includes fee-free exemptions for the unemployed and workers’ compensation payments for first-year apprentices. The government has created a new department that will provide a seamless transition from training to the workplace. However, we must not be sidetracked by misinformation from Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, because all it does is undermine training, and I do not want to see that happen.
The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I will clarify another matter in the media release, which goes on to state — … the Minister has turned his back on 2775 apprentices that had been sacked or had dropped their training, … I have to repeat this yet again. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is calling out. She does not do her homework. I am going to send her outside! She is wrong again. That is why she got sacked. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! Let us be reasonable. Hon PETER COLLIER : I will wrap up. Suffice to say, 2 500 apprentices have not been sacked. Just 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2008, so 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2009. That means that those people commenced an apprenticeship, but decided that they would go on to something else. A small proportion of those apprentices left as a result of the economic downturn and decided that they had had enough and would move on to something else. The figures for this year are not dissimilar to the figures for last year. We have been proactive in training. We have provided almost $50 million to help with a stimulus package, which includes fee-free exemptions for the unemployed and workers’ compensation payments for first-year apprentices. The government has created a new department that will provide a seamless transition from training to the workplace. However, we must not be sidetracked by misinformation from Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, because all it does is undermine training, and I do not want to see that happen.
Hon PETER COLLIER : I will clarify another matter in the media release, which goes on to state — … the Minister has turned his back on 2775 apprentices that had been sacked or had dropped their training, … I have to repeat this yet again. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is calling out. She does not do her homework. I am going to send her outside! She is wrong again. That is why she got sacked. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! Let us be reasonable. Hon PETER COLLIER : I will wrap up. Suffice to say, 2 500 apprentices have not been sacked. Just 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2008, so 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2009. That means that those people commenced an apprenticeship, but decided that they would go on to something else. A small proportion of those apprentices left as a result of the economic downturn and decided that they had had enough and would move on to something else. The figures for this year are not dissimilar to the figures for last year. We have been proactive in training. We have provided almost $50 million to help with a stimulus package, which includes fee-free exemptions for the unemployed and workers’ compensation payments for first-year apprentices. The government has created a new department that will provide a seamless transition from training to the workplace. However, we must not be sidetracked by misinformation from Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, because all it does is undermine training, and I do not want to see that happen.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is calling out. She does not do her homework. I am going to send her outside! She is wrong again. That is why she got sacked. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! Let us be reasonable. Hon PETER COLLIER : I will wrap up. Suffice to say, 2 500 apprentices have not been sacked. Just 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2008, so 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2009. That means that those people commenced an apprenticeship, but decided that they would go on to something else. A small proportion of those apprentices left as a result of the economic downturn and decided that they had had enough and would move on to something else. The figures for this year are not dissimilar to the figures for last year. We have been proactive in training. We have provided almost $50 million to help with a stimulus package, which includes fee-free exemptions for the unemployed and workers’ compensation payments for first-year apprentices. The government has created a new department that will provide a seamless transition from training to the workplace. However, we must not be sidetracked by misinformation from Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, because all it does is undermine training, and I do not want to see that happen.
Hon PETER COLLIER : Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is calling out. She does not do her homework. I am going to send her outside! She is wrong again. That is why she got sacked. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! Let us be reasonable. Hon PETER COLLIER : I will wrap up. Suffice to say, 2 500 apprentices have not been sacked. Just 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2008, so 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2009. That means that those people commenced an apprenticeship, but decided that they would go on to something else. A small proportion of those apprentices left as a result of the economic downturn and decided that they had had enough and would move on to something else. The figures for this year are not dissimilar to the figures for last year. We have been proactive in training. We have provided almost $50 million to help with a stimulus package, which includes fee-free exemptions for the unemployed and workers’ compensation payments for first-year apprentices. The government has created a new department that will provide a seamless transition from training to the workplace. However, we must not be sidetracked by misinformation from Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, because all it does is undermine training, and I do not want to see that happen.
Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! Let us be reasonable. Hon PETER COLLIER : I will wrap up. Suffice to say, 2 500 apprentices have not been sacked. Just 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2008, so 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2009. That means that those people commenced an apprenticeship, but decided that they would go on to something else. A small proportion of those apprentices left as a result of the economic downturn and decided that they had had enough and would move on to something else. The figures for this year are not dissimilar to the figures for last year. We have been proactive in training. We have provided almost $50 million to help with a stimulus package, which includes fee-free exemptions for the unemployed and workers’ compensation payments for first-year apprentices. The government has created a new department that will provide a seamless transition from training to the workplace. However, we must not be sidetracked by misinformation from Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, because all it does is undermine training, and I do not want to see that happen.
The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! Let us be reasonable. Hon PETER COLLIER : I will wrap up. Suffice to say, 2 500 apprentices have not been sacked. Just 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2008, so 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2009. That means that those people commenced an apprenticeship, but decided that they would go on to something else. A small proportion of those apprentices left as a result of the economic downturn and decided that they had had enough and would move on to something else. The figures for this year are not dissimilar to the figures for last year. We have been proactive in training. We have provided almost $50 million to help with a stimulus package, which includes fee-free exemptions for the unemployed and workers’ compensation payments for first-year apprentices. The government has created a new department that will provide a seamless transition from training to the workplace. However, we must not be sidetracked by misinformation from Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, because all it does is undermine training, and I do not want to see that happen.
Hon PETER COLLIER : I will wrap up. Suffice to say, 2 500 apprentices have not been sacked. Just 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2008, so 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2009. That means that those people commenced an apprenticeship, but decided that they would go on to something else. A small proportion of those apprentices left as a result of the economic downturn and decided that they had had enough and would move on to something else. The figures for this year are not dissimilar to the figures for last year. We have been proactive in training. We have provided almost $50 million to help with a stimulus package, which includes fee-free exemptions for the unemployed and workers’ compensation payments for first-year apprentices. The government has created a new department that will provide a seamless transition from training to the workplace. However, we must not be sidetracked by misinformation from Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, because all it does is undermine training, and I do not want to see that happen.
Hon PETER COLLIER replied: I thank the honourable member for the question. I understand her confusion, although she really should not be confused, just as everyone in this chamber should not be confused, given the response that I gave to Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich yesterday about a purported new school-based apprenticeship system. I said not once but twice in my response that, firstly, I have not considered a new school-based apprenticeship system and, secondly, I have not made an announcement on a new school-based apprenticeship system. No-one in this chamber should have had any confusion about that. Is that correct? Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Good. Everyone was concentrating. It appears that everyone in this chamber was concentrating, apart from the very person who asked that original question. I thought I had made it quite clear that, firstly, I had made no announcement and, secondly, I was not considering it, yet Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich put out a media statement today, after having received my response yesterday, headed “Classroom apprenticeship plan dismissed”. It states — The Barnett Government’s proposal to move apprentices into classrooms may place the future of the apprenticeship system at risk, Shadow Training Minister Ljiljanna Ravlich said today. Ms Ravlich said the radical proposal by the Master Builders Association (MBA) to be considered by Training Minister Peter Collier was more about the financial interests of the MBA rather than any benefit for apprentices. I say yet again that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich simply does not listen, and this is not the first time. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT (Hon Matt Benson-Lidholm) : I am trying to listen, so I ask members to tone it down for a second. Hon PETER COLLIER : I do not necessarily want to go down this path, but the simple fact of the matter is that, once again, Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is basically peddling misinformation. This media release is blatantly wrong. I stated in this chamber yesterday that, firstly, I had not made an announcement about school-based apprenticeships and, secondly, we were not considering it. The MBA put out a paper about school-based apprenticeships, which I have not seen and certainly am not considering. I have asked the department to look at changes to and more flexibility for apprenticeships and to perhaps look at more institution-based apprenticeships, not school-based apprenticeships. It is abject nonsense. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is not doing her homework, and, as a result, she continues to peddle misinformation. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I will clarify another matter in the media release, which goes on to state — … the Minister has turned his back on 2775 apprentices that had been sacked or had dropped their training, … I have to repeat this yet again. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is calling out. She does not do her homework. I am going to send her outside! She is wrong again. That is why she got sacked. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! Let us be reasonable. Hon PETER COLLIER : I will wrap up. Suffice to say, 2 500 apprentices have not been sacked. Just 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2008, so 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2009. That means that those people commenced an apprenticeship, but decided that they would go on to something else. A small proportion of those apprentices left as a result of the economic downturn and decided that they had had enough and would move on to something else. The figures for this year are not dissimilar to the figures for last year. We have been proactive in training. We have provided almost $50 million to help with a stimulus package, which includes fee-free exemptions for the unemployed and workers’ compensation payments for first-year apprentices. The government has created a new department that will provide a seamless transition from training to the workplace. However, we must not be sidetracked by misinformation from Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, because all it does is undermine training, and I do not want to see that happen.
I thank the honourable member for the question. I understand her confusion, although she really should not be confused, just as everyone in this chamber should not be confused, given the response that I gave to Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich yesterday about a purported new school-based apprenticeship system. I said not once but twice in my response that, firstly, I have not considered a new school-based apprenticeship system and, secondly, I have not made an announcement on a new school-based apprenticeship system. No-one in this chamber should have had any confusion about that. Is that correct? Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Good. Everyone was concentrating. It appears that everyone in this chamber was concentrating, apart from the very person who asked that original question. I thought I had made it quite clear that, firstly, I had made no announcement and, secondly, I was not considering it, yet Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich put out a media statement today, after having received my response yesterday, headed “Classroom apprenticeship plan dismissed”. It states — The Barnett Government’s proposal to move apprentices into classrooms may place the future of the apprenticeship system at risk, Shadow Training Minister Ljiljanna Ravlich said today. Ms Ravlich said the radical proposal by the Master Builders Association (MBA) to be considered by Training Minister Peter Collier was more about the financial interests of the MBA rather than any benefit for apprentices. I say yet again that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich simply does not listen, and this is not the first time. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT (Hon Matt Benson-Lidholm) : I am trying to listen, so I ask members to tone it down for a second. Hon PETER COLLIER : I do not necessarily want to go down this path, but the simple fact of the matter is that, once again, Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is basically peddling misinformation. This media release is blatantly wrong. I stated in this chamber yesterday that, firstly, I had not made an announcement about school-based apprenticeships and, secondly, we were not considering it. The MBA put out a paper about school-based apprenticeships, which I have not seen and certainly am not considering. I have asked the department to look at changes to and more flexibility for apprenticeships and to perhaps look at more institution-based apprenticeships, not school-based apprenticeships. It is abject nonsense. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is not doing her homework, and, as a result, she continues to peddle misinformation. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I will clarify another matter in the media release, which goes on to state — … the Minister has turned his back on 2775 apprentices that had been sacked or had dropped their training, … I have to repeat this yet again. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is calling out. She does not do her homework. I am going to send her outside! She is wrong again. That is why she got sacked. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! Let us be reasonable. Hon PETER COLLIER : I will wrap up. Suffice to say, 2 500 apprentices have not been sacked. Just 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2008, so 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2009. That means that those people commenced an apprenticeship, but decided that they would go on to something else. A small proportion of those apprentices left as a result of the economic downturn and decided that they had had enough and would move on to something else. The figures for this year are not dissimilar to the figures for last year. We have been proactive in training. We have provided almost $50 million to help with a stimulus package, which includes fee-free exemptions for the unemployed and workers’ compensation payments for first-year apprentices. The government has created a new department that will provide a seamless transition from training to the workplace. However, we must not be sidetracked by misinformation from Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, because all it does is undermine training, and I do not want to see that happen.
Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Good. Everyone was concentrating. It appears that everyone in this chamber was concentrating, apart from the very person who asked that original question. I thought I had made it quite clear that, firstly, I had made no announcement and, secondly, I was not considering it, yet Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich put out a media statement today, after having received my response yesterday, headed “Classroom apprenticeship plan dismissed”. It states — The Barnett Government’s proposal to move apprentices into classrooms may place the future of the apprenticeship system at risk, Shadow Training Minister Ljiljanna Ravlich said today. Ms Ravlich said the radical proposal by the Master Builders Association (MBA) to be considered by Training Minister Peter Collier was more about the financial interests of the MBA rather than any benefit for apprentices. I say yet again that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich simply does not listen, and this is not the first time. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT (Hon Matt Benson-Lidholm) : I am trying to listen, so I ask members to tone it down for a second. Hon PETER COLLIER : I do not necessarily want to go down this path, but the simple fact of the matter is that, once again, Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is basically peddling misinformation. This media release is blatantly wrong. I stated in this chamber yesterday that, firstly, I had not made an announcement about school-based apprenticeships and, secondly, we were not considering it. The MBA put out a paper about school-based apprenticeships, which I have not seen and certainly am not considering. I have asked the department to look at changes to and more flexibility for apprenticeships and to perhaps look at more institution-based apprenticeships, not school-based apprenticeships. It is abject nonsense. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is not doing her homework, and, as a result, she continues to peddle misinformation. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I will clarify another matter in the media release, which goes on to state — … the Minister has turned his back on 2775 apprentices that had been sacked or had dropped their training, … I have to repeat this yet again. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is calling out. She does not do her homework. I am going to send her outside! She is wrong again. That is why she got sacked. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! Let us be reasonable. Hon PETER COLLIER : I will wrap up. Suffice to say, 2 500 apprentices have not been sacked. Just 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2008, so 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2009. That means that those people commenced an apprenticeship, but decided that they would go on to something else. A small proportion of those apprentices left as a result of the economic downturn and decided that they had had enough and would move on to something else. The figures for this year are not dissimilar to the figures for last year. We have been proactive in training. We have provided almost $50 million to help with a stimulus package, which includes fee-free exemptions for the unemployed and workers’ compensation payments for first-year apprentices. The government has created a new department that will provide a seamless transition from training to the workplace. However, we must not be sidetracked by misinformation from Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, because all it does is undermine training, and I do not want to see that happen.
Hon PETER COLLIER : Good. Everyone was concentrating. It appears that everyone in this chamber was concentrating, apart from the very person who asked that original question. I thought I had made it quite clear that, firstly, I had made no announcement and, secondly, I was not considering it, yet Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich put out a media statement today, after having received my response yesterday, headed “Classroom apprenticeship plan dismissed”. It states — The Barnett Government’s proposal to move apprentices into classrooms may place the future of the apprenticeship system at risk, Shadow Training Minister Ljiljanna Ravlich said today. Ms Ravlich said the radical proposal by the Master Builders Association (MBA) to be considered by Training Minister Peter Collier was more about the financial interests of the MBA rather than any benefit for apprentices. I say yet again that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich simply does not listen, and this is not the first time. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT (Hon Matt Benson-Lidholm) : I am trying to listen, so I ask members to tone it down for a second. Hon PETER COLLIER : I do not necessarily want to go down this path, but the simple fact of the matter is that, once again, Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is basically peddling misinformation. This media release is blatantly wrong. I stated in this chamber yesterday that, firstly, I had not made an announcement about school-based apprenticeships and, secondly, we were not considering it. The MBA put out a paper about school-based apprenticeships, which I have not seen and certainly am not considering. I have asked the department to look at changes to and more flexibility for apprenticeships and to perhaps look at more institution-based apprenticeships, not school-based apprenticeships. It is abject nonsense. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is not doing her homework, and, as a result, she continues to peddle misinformation. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I will clarify another matter in the media release, which goes on to state — … the Minister has turned his back on 2775 apprentices that had been sacked or had dropped their training, … I have to repeat this yet again. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is calling out. She does not do her homework. I am going to send her outside! She is wrong again. That is why she got sacked. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! Let us be reasonable. Hon PETER COLLIER : I will wrap up. Suffice to say, 2 500 apprentices have not been sacked. Just 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2008, so 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2009. That means that those people commenced an apprenticeship, but decided that they would go on to something else. A small proportion of those apprentices left as a result of the economic downturn and decided that they had had enough and would move on to something else. The figures for this year are not dissimilar to the figures for last year. We have been proactive in training. We have provided almost $50 million to help with a stimulus package, which includes fee-free exemptions for the unemployed and workers’ compensation payments for first-year apprentices. The government has created a new department that will provide a seamless transition from training to the workplace. However, we must not be sidetracked by misinformation from Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, because all it does is undermine training, and I do not want to see that happen.
Ms Ravlich said the radical proposal by the Master Builders Association (MBA) to be considered by Training Minister Peter Collier was more about the financial interests of the MBA rather than any benefit for apprentices.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT (Hon Matt Benson-Lidholm) : I am trying to listen, so I ask members to tone it down for a second. Hon PETER COLLIER : I do not necessarily want to go down this path, but the simple fact of the matter is that, once again, Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is basically peddling misinformation. This media release is blatantly wrong. I stated in this chamber yesterday that, firstly, I had not made an announcement about school-based apprenticeships and, secondly, we were not considering it. The MBA put out a paper about school-based apprenticeships, which I have not seen and certainly am not considering. I have asked the department to look at changes to and more flexibility for apprenticeships and to perhaps look at more institution-based apprenticeships, not school-based apprenticeships. It is abject nonsense. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is not doing her homework, and, as a result, she continues to peddle misinformation. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I will clarify another matter in the media release, which goes on to state — … the Minister has turned his back on 2775 apprentices that had been sacked or had dropped their training, … I have to repeat this yet again. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is calling out. She does not do her homework. I am going to send her outside! She is wrong again. That is why she got sacked. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! Let us be reasonable. Hon PETER COLLIER : I will wrap up. Suffice to say, 2 500 apprentices have not been sacked. Just 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2008, so 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2009. That means that those people commenced an apprenticeship, but decided that they would go on to something else. A small proportion of those apprentices left as a result of the economic downturn and decided that they had had enough and would move on to something else. The figures for this year are not dissimilar to the figures for last year. We have been proactive in training. We have provided almost $50 million to help with a stimulus package, which includes fee-free exemptions for the unemployed and workers’ compensation payments for first-year apprentices. The government has created a new department that will provide a seamless transition from training to the workplace. However, we must not be sidetracked by misinformation from Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, because all it does is undermine training, and I do not want to see that happen.
The DEPUTY PRESIDENT (Hon Matt Benson-Lidholm) : I am trying to listen, so I ask members to tone it down for a second. Hon PETER COLLIER : I do not necessarily want to go down this path, but the simple fact of the matter is that, once again, Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is basically peddling misinformation. This media release is blatantly wrong. I stated in this chamber yesterday that, firstly, I had not made an announcement about school-based apprenticeships and, secondly, we were not considering it. The MBA put out a paper about school-based apprenticeships, which I have not seen and certainly am not considering. I have asked the department to look at changes to and more flexibility for apprenticeships and to perhaps look at more institution-based apprenticeships, not school-based apprenticeships. It is abject nonsense. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is not doing her homework, and, as a result, she continues to peddle misinformation. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I will clarify another matter in the media release, which goes on to state — … the Minister has turned his back on 2775 apprentices that had been sacked or had dropped their training, … I have to repeat this yet again. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is calling out. She does not do her homework. I am going to send her outside! She is wrong again. That is why she got sacked. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! Let us be reasonable. Hon PETER COLLIER : I will wrap up. Suffice to say, 2 500 apprentices have not been sacked. Just 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2008, so 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2009. That means that those people commenced an apprenticeship, but decided that they would go on to something else. A small proportion of those apprentices left as a result of the economic downturn and decided that they had had enough and would move on to something else. The figures for this year are not dissimilar to the figures for last year. We have been proactive in training. We have provided almost $50 million to help with a stimulus package, which includes fee-free exemptions for the unemployed and workers’ compensation payments for first-year apprentices. The government has created a new department that will provide a seamless transition from training to the workplace. However, we must not be sidetracked by misinformation from Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, because all it does is undermine training, and I do not want to see that happen.
Hon PETER COLLIER : I do not necessarily want to go down this path, but the simple fact of the matter is that, once again, Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is basically peddling misinformation. This media release is blatantly wrong. I stated in this chamber yesterday that, firstly, I had not made an announcement about school-based apprenticeships and, secondly, we were not considering it. The MBA put out a paper about school-based apprenticeships, which I have not seen and certainly am not considering. I have asked the department to look at changes to and more flexibility for apprenticeships and to perhaps look at more institution-based apprenticeships, not school-based apprenticeships. It is abject nonsense. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is not doing her homework, and, as a result, she continues to peddle misinformation. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I will clarify another matter in the media release, which goes on to state — … the Minister has turned his back on 2775 apprentices that had been sacked or had dropped their training, … I have to repeat this yet again. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is calling out. She does not do her homework. I am going to send her outside! She is wrong again. That is why she got sacked. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! Let us be reasonable. Hon PETER COLLIER : I will wrap up. Suffice to say, 2 500 apprentices have not been sacked. Just 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2008, so 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2009. That means that those people commenced an apprenticeship, but decided that they would go on to something else. A small proportion of those apprentices left as a result of the economic downturn and decided that they had had enough and would move on to something else. The figures for this year are not dissimilar to the figures for last year. We have been proactive in training. We have provided almost $50 million to help with a stimulus package, which includes fee-free exemptions for the unemployed and workers’ compensation payments for first-year apprentices. The government has created a new department that will provide a seamless transition from training to the workplace. However, we must not be sidetracked by misinformation from Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, because all it does is undermine training, and I do not want to see that happen.
Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I will clarify another matter in the media release, which goes on to state — … the Minister has turned his back on 2775 apprentices that had been sacked or had dropped their training, … I have to repeat this yet again. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is calling out. She does not do her homework. I am going to send her outside! She is wrong again. That is why she got sacked. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! Let us be reasonable. Hon PETER COLLIER : I will wrap up. Suffice to say, 2 500 apprentices have not been sacked. Just 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2008, so 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2009. That means that those people commenced an apprenticeship, but decided that they would go on to something else. A small proportion of those apprentices left as a result of the economic downturn and decided that they had had enough and would move on to something else. The figures for this year are not dissimilar to the figures for last year. We have been proactive in training. We have provided almost $50 million to help with a stimulus package, which includes fee-free exemptions for the unemployed and workers’ compensation payments for first-year apprentices. The government has created a new department that will provide a seamless transition from training to the workplace. However, we must not be sidetracked by misinformation from Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, because all it does is undermine training, and I do not want to see that happen.
The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I will clarify another matter in the media release, which goes on to state — … the Minister has turned his back on 2775 apprentices that had been sacked or had dropped their training, … I have to repeat this yet again. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is calling out. She does not do her homework. I am going to send her outside! She is wrong again. That is why she got sacked. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! Let us be reasonable. Hon PETER COLLIER : I will wrap up. Suffice to say, 2 500 apprentices have not been sacked. Just 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2008, so 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2009. That means that those people commenced an apprenticeship, but decided that they would go on to something else. A small proportion of those apprentices left as a result of the economic downturn and decided that they had had enough and would move on to something else. The figures for this year are not dissimilar to the figures for last year. We have been proactive in training. We have provided almost $50 million to help with a stimulus package, which includes fee-free exemptions for the unemployed and workers’ compensation payments for first-year apprentices. The government has created a new department that will provide a seamless transition from training to the workplace. However, we must not be sidetracked by misinformation from Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, because all it does is undermine training, and I do not want to see that happen.
Hon PETER COLLIER : I will clarify another matter in the media release, which goes on to state — … the Minister has turned his back on 2775 apprentices that had been sacked or had dropped their training, … I have to repeat this yet again. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is calling out. She does not do her homework. I am going to send her outside! She is wrong again. That is why she got sacked. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! Let us be reasonable. Hon PETER COLLIER : I will wrap up. Suffice to say, 2 500 apprentices have not been sacked. Just 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2008, so 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2009. That means that those people commenced an apprenticeship, but decided that they would go on to something else. A small proportion of those apprentices left as a result of the economic downturn and decided that they had had enough and would move on to something else. The figures for this year are not dissimilar to the figures for last year. We have been proactive in training. We have provided almost $50 million to help with a stimulus package, which includes fee-free exemptions for the unemployed and workers’ compensation payments for first-year apprentices. The government has created a new department that will provide a seamless transition from training to the workplace. However, we must not be sidetracked by misinformation from Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, because all it does is undermine training, and I do not want to see that happen.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is calling out. She does not do her homework. I am going to send her outside! She is wrong again. That is why she got sacked. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! Let us be reasonable. Hon PETER COLLIER : I will wrap up. Suffice to say, 2 500 apprentices have not been sacked. Just 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2008, so 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2009. That means that those people commenced an apprenticeship, but decided that they would go on to something else. A small proportion of those apprentices left as a result of the economic downturn and decided that they had had enough and would move on to something else. The figures for this year are not dissimilar to the figures for last year. We have been proactive in training. We have provided almost $50 million to help with a stimulus package, which includes fee-free exemptions for the unemployed and workers’ compensation payments for first-year apprentices. The government has created a new department that will provide a seamless transition from training to the workplace. However, we must not be sidetracked by misinformation from Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, because all it does is undermine training, and I do not want to see that happen.
Hon PETER COLLIER : Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich is calling out. She does not do her homework. I am going to send her outside! She is wrong again. That is why she got sacked. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! Let us be reasonable. Hon PETER COLLIER : I will wrap up. Suffice to say, 2 500 apprentices have not been sacked. Just 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2008, so 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2009. That means that those people commenced an apprenticeship, but decided that they would go on to something else. A small proportion of those apprentices left as a result of the economic downturn and decided that they had had enough and would move on to something else. The figures for this year are not dissimilar to the figures for last year. We have been proactive in training. We have provided almost $50 million to help with a stimulus package, which includes fee-free exemptions for the unemployed and workers’ compensation payments for first-year apprentices. The government has created a new department that will provide a seamless transition from training to the workplace. However, we must not be sidetracked by misinformation from Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, because all it does is undermine training, and I do not want to see that happen.
Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! Let us be reasonable. Hon PETER COLLIER : I will wrap up. Suffice to say, 2 500 apprentices have not been sacked. Just 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2008, so 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2009. That means that those people commenced an apprenticeship, but decided that they would go on to something else. A small proportion of those apprentices left as a result of the economic downturn and decided that they had had enough and would move on to something else. The figures for this year are not dissimilar to the figures for last year. We have been proactive in training. We have provided almost $50 million to help with a stimulus package, which includes fee-free exemptions for the unemployed and workers’ compensation payments for first-year apprentices. The government has created a new department that will provide a seamless transition from training to the workplace. However, we must not be sidetracked by misinformation from Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, because all it does is undermine training, and I do not want to see that happen.
The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! Let us be reasonable. Hon PETER COLLIER : I will wrap up. Suffice to say, 2 500 apprentices have not been sacked. Just 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2008, so 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2009. That means that those people commenced an apprenticeship, but decided that they would go on to something else. A small proportion of those apprentices left as a result of the economic downturn and decided that they had had enough and would move on to something else. The figures for this year are not dissimilar to the figures for last year. We have been proactive in training. We have provided almost $50 million to help with a stimulus package, which includes fee-free exemptions for the unemployed and workers’ compensation payments for first-year apprentices. The government has created a new department that will provide a seamless transition from training to the workplace. However, we must not be sidetracked by misinformation from Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, because all it does is undermine training, and I do not want to see that happen.
Hon PETER COLLIER : I will wrap up. Suffice to say, 2 500 apprentices have not been sacked. Just 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2008, so 2 500 apprenticeships had been cancelled as at 1 July 2009. That means that those people commenced an apprenticeship, but decided that they would go on to something else. A small proportion of those apprentices left as a result of the economic downturn and decided that they had had enough and would move on to something else. The figures for this year are not dissimilar to the figures for last year. We have been proactive in training. We have provided almost $50 million to help with a stimulus package, which includes fee-free exemptions for the unemployed and workers’ compensation payments for first-year apprentices. The government has created a new department that will provide a seamless transition from training to the workplace. However, we must not be sidetracked by misinformation from Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, because all it does is undermine training, and I do not want to see that happen.
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