Dr. Jacobs questions the Premier about frequent changes in ministers responsible for disability services, implying instability and lack of government commitment. The Premier defends the changes, highlighting improved outcomes compared to the previous government and deflecting with questions about the opposition's record.

AnsweredQoN 227Legislative Assembly
Asked
9 May 2006
Portfolio
Premier

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DISABILITY SERVICES SECTOR - RESPONSIBLE MINISTERS
In light of the fact that the Premier has reallocated a number of portfolios, including disability services, citizenship and multicultural interests, seniors and volunteers, I ask - (1) Is the Premier aware that since he was elected to government, the disabled in the community and their carers have been represented by a passing parade of ministers including the members for Kenwick, Yokine, Rockingham, Girrawheen, Ballajura and now again the member for Girrawheen? (2) How can people who are involved in the disability services sector have any faith in the government’s interest in these portfolios given that they have been continually handballed to different members? Mr A.J. CARPENTER

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(1)-(2) I thank the member for the question and I appreciate the point that he has made. Obviously, we would prefer not to have made the changes that have been made in the past couple of days. However, they have been made. The judgment that people will make is whether this government is doing better for the disability services sector than the previous government. Members opposite should ask themselves that question. I am happy to ask them. How many Ministers for Health were there under the previous government? Members opposite lost count, they were so incompetent. I think there were five. Hopeless! It is the quality of the outcome that is important. Let me ask a question that is relevant to this issue and see what we get from members opposite on the issue of road safety in general. Does the member for South Perth support increased fines for speeding? Mr T.R. Buswell : Answer the question. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He does not. The member asked a question. What does the government do in this field? Is it producing a better result? There is absolutely no question that it is, despite the fact that one of the ministers in the former government was not too bad - Mr C.J. Barnett : How’s the road toll going this year? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want to compare it with what it was when he was in government? One of the things members opposite have to do is to open wider the tiny window they look through to see what was happening a couple of years ago. It is the outcomes that are important, and there is no question that the outcomes are better. Mr D.T. Redman : Have a look at the number of suicides. Three times as many people are committing suicide. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Is that related to disability services? Mr C.J. Barnett : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay; that is an issue then. There is absolutely no doubt - no serious commentator on the issue would say anything else - that this government produces better outcomes for the people in the disability sector than did the previous government. Nobody will contest that. That is the key to the issue. No-one is in government for personal aggrandisement. Members are in government to deliver outcomes to people. That is the whole purpose of being in government and we do it better than the opposition did when it was in government.
(1) Is the Premier aware that since he was elected to government, the disabled in the community and their carers have been represented by a passing parade of ministers including the members for Kenwick, Yokine, Rockingham, Girrawheen, Ballajura and now again the member for Girrawheen? (2) How can people who are involved in the disability services sector have any faith in the government’s interest in these portfolios given that they have been continually handballed to different members? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for the question and I appreciate the point that he has made. Obviously, we would prefer not to have made the changes that have been made in the past couple of days. However, they have been made. The judgment that people will make is whether this government is doing better for the disability services sector than the previous government. Members opposite should ask themselves that question. I am happy to ask them. How many Ministers for Health were there under the previous government? Members opposite lost count, they were so incompetent. I think there were five. Hopeless! It is the quality of the outcome that is important. Let me ask a question that is relevant to this issue and see what we get from members opposite on the issue of road safety in general. Does the member for South Perth support increased fines for speeding? Mr T.R. Buswell : Answer the question. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He does not. The member asked a question. What does the government do in this field? Is it producing a better result? There is absolutely no question that it is, despite the fact that one of the ministers in the former government was not too bad - Mr C.J. Barnett : How’s the road toll going this year? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want to compare it with what it was when he was in government? One of the things members opposite have to do is to open wider the tiny window they look through to see what was happening a couple of years ago. It is the outcomes that are important, and there is no question that the outcomes are better. Mr D.T. Redman : Have a look at the number of suicides. Three times as many people are committing suicide. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Is that related to disability services? Mr C.J. Barnett : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay; that is an issue then. There is absolutely no doubt - no serious commentator on the issue would say anything else - that this government produces better outcomes for the people in the disability sector than did the previous government. Nobody will contest that. That is the key to the issue. No-one is in government for personal aggrandisement. Members are in government to deliver outcomes to people. That is the whole purpose of being in government and we do it better than the opposition did when it was in government.
(2) How can people who are involved in the disability services sector have any faith in the government’s interest in these portfolios given that they have been continually handballed to different members? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for the question and I appreciate the point that he has made. Obviously, we would prefer not to have made the changes that have been made in the past couple of days. However, they have been made. The judgment that people will make is whether this government is doing better for the disability services sector than the previous government. Members opposite should ask themselves that question. I am happy to ask them. How many Ministers for Health were there under the previous government? Members opposite lost count, they were so incompetent. I think there were five. Hopeless! It is the quality of the outcome that is important. Let me ask a question that is relevant to this issue and see what we get from members opposite on the issue of road safety in general. Does the member for South Perth support increased fines for speeding? Mr T.R. Buswell : Answer the question. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He does not. The member asked a question. What does the government do in this field? Is it producing a better result? There is absolutely no question that it is, despite the fact that one of the ministers in the former government was not too bad - Mr C.J. Barnett : How’s the road toll going this year? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want to compare it with what it was when he was in government? One of the things members opposite have to do is to open wider the tiny window they look through to see what was happening a couple of years ago. It is the outcomes that are important, and there is no question that the outcomes are better. Mr D.T. Redman : Have a look at the number of suicides. Three times as many people are committing suicide. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Is that related to disability services? Mr C.J. Barnett : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay; that is an issue then. There is absolutely no doubt - no serious commentator on the issue would say anything else - that this government produces better outcomes for the people in the disability sector than did the previous government. Nobody will contest that. That is the key to the issue. No-one is in government for personal aggrandisement. Members are in government to deliver outcomes to people. That is the whole purpose of being in government and we do it better than the opposition did when it was in government.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for the question and I appreciate the point that he has made. Obviously, we would prefer not to have made the changes that have been made in the past couple of days. However, they have been made. The judgment that people will make is whether this government is doing better for the disability services sector than the previous government. Members opposite should ask themselves that question. I am happy to ask them. How many Ministers for Health were there under the previous government? Members opposite lost count, they were so incompetent. I think there were five. Hopeless! It is the quality of the outcome that is important. Let me ask a question that is relevant to this issue and see what we get from members opposite on the issue of road safety in general. Does the member for South Perth support increased fines for speeding? Mr T.R. Buswell : Answer the question. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He does not. The member asked a question. What does the government do in this field? Is it producing a better result? There is absolutely no question that it is, despite the fact that one of the ministers in the former government was not too bad - Mr C.J. Barnett : How’s the road toll going this year? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want to compare it with what it was when he was in government? One of the things members opposite have to do is to open wider the tiny window they look through to see what was happening a couple of years ago. It is the outcomes that are important, and there is no question that the outcomes are better. Mr D.T. Redman : Have a look at the number of suicides. Three times as many people are committing suicide. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Is that related to disability services? Mr C.J. Barnett : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay; that is an issue then. There is absolutely no doubt - no serious commentator on the issue would say anything else - that this government produces better outcomes for the people in the disability sector than did the previous government. Nobody will contest that. That is the key to the issue. No-one is in government for personal aggrandisement. Members are in government to deliver outcomes to people. That is the whole purpose of being in government and we do it better than the opposition did when it was in government.
(1)-(2) I thank the member for the question and I appreciate the point that he has made. Obviously, we would prefer not to have made the changes that have been made in the past couple of days. However, they have been made. The judgment that people will make is whether this government is doing better for the disability services sector than the previous government. Members opposite should ask themselves that question. I am happy to ask them. How many Ministers for Health were there under the previous government? Members opposite lost count, they were so incompetent. I think there were five. Hopeless! It is the quality of the outcome that is important. Let me ask a question that is relevant to this issue and see what we get from members opposite on the issue of road safety in general. Does the member for South Perth support increased fines for speeding? Mr T.R. Buswell : Answer the question. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He does not. The member asked a question. What does the government do in this field? Is it producing a better result? There is absolutely no question that it is, despite the fact that one of the ministers in the former government was not too bad - Mr C.J. Barnett : How’s the road toll going this year? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want to compare it with what it was when he was in government? One of the things members opposite have to do is to open wider the tiny window they look through to see what was happening a couple of years ago. It is the outcomes that are important, and there is no question that the outcomes are better. Mr D.T. Redman : Have a look at the number of suicides. Three times as many people are committing suicide. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Is that related to disability services? Mr C.J. Barnett : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay; that is an issue then. There is absolutely no doubt - no serious commentator on the issue would say anything else - that this government produces better outcomes for the people in the disability sector than did the previous government. Nobody will contest that. That is the key to the issue. No-one is in government for personal aggrandisement. Members are in government to deliver outcomes to people. That is the whole purpose of being in government and we do it better than the opposition did when it was in government.
Mr T.R. Buswell : Answer the question. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He does not. The member asked a question. What does the government do in this field? Is it producing a better result? There is absolutely no question that it is, despite the fact that one of the ministers in the former government was not too bad - Mr C.J. Barnett : How’s the road toll going this year? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want to compare it with what it was when he was in government? One of the things members opposite have to do is to open wider the tiny window they look through to see what was happening a couple of years ago. It is the outcomes that are important, and there is no question that the outcomes are better. Mr D.T. Redman : Have a look at the number of suicides. Three times as many people are committing suicide. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Is that related to disability services? Mr C.J. Barnett : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay; that is an issue then. There is absolutely no doubt - no serious commentator on the issue would say anything else - that this government produces better outcomes for the people in the disability sector than did the previous government. Nobody will contest that. That is the key to the issue. No-one is in government for personal aggrandisement. Members are in government to deliver outcomes to people. That is the whole purpose of being in government and we do it better than the opposition did when it was in government.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He does not. The member asked a question. What does the government do in this field? Is it producing a better result? There is absolutely no question that it is, despite the fact that one of the ministers in the former government was not too bad - Mr C.J. Barnett : How’s the road toll going this year? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want to compare it with what it was when he was in government? One of the things members opposite have to do is to open wider the tiny window they look through to see what was happening a couple of years ago. It is the outcomes that are important, and there is no question that the outcomes are better. Mr D.T. Redman : Have a look at the number of suicides. Three times as many people are committing suicide. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Is that related to disability services? Mr C.J. Barnett : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay; that is an issue then. There is absolutely no doubt - no serious commentator on the issue would say anything else - that this government produces better outcomes for the people in the disability sector than did the previous government. Nobody will contest that. That is the key to the issue. No-one is in government for personal aggrandisement. Members are in government to deliver outcomes to people. That is the whole purpose of being in government and we do it better than the opposition did when it was in government.
Mr C.J. Barnett : How’s the road toll going this year? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want to compare it with what it was when he was in government? One of the things members opposite have to do is to open wider the tiny window they look through to see what was happening a couple of years ago. It is the outcomes that are important, and there is no question that the outcomes are better. Mr D.T. Redman : Have a look at the number of suicides. Three times as many people are committing suicide. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Is that related to disability services? Mr C.J. Barnett : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay; that is an issue then. There is absolutely no doubt - no serious commentator on the issue would say anything else - that this government produces better outcomes for the people in the disability sector than did the previous government. Nobody will contest that. That is the key to the issue. No-one is in government for personal aggrandisement. Members are in government to deliver outcomes to people. That is the whole purpose of being in government and we do it better than the opposition did when it was in government.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want to compare it with what it was when he was in government? One of the things members opposite have to do is to open wider the tiny window they look through to see what was happening a couple of years ago. It is the outcomes that are important, and there is no question that the outcomes are better. Mr D.T. Redman : Have a look at the number of suicides. Three times as many people are committing suicide. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Is that related to disability services? Mr C.J. Barnett : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay; that is an issue then. There is absolutely no doubt - no serious commentator on the issue would say anything else - that this government produces better outcomes for the people in the disability sector than did the previous government. Nobody will contest that. That is the key to the issue. No-one is in government for personal aggrandisement. Members are in government to deliver outcomes to people. That is the whole purpose of being in government and we do it better than the opposition did when it was in government.
Mr D.T. Redman : Have a look at the number of suicides. Three times as many people are committing suicide. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Is that related to disability services? Mr C.J. Barnett : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay; that is an issue then. There is absolutely no doubt - no serious commentator on the issue would say anything else - that this government produces better outcomes for the people in the disability sector than did the previous government. Nobody will contest that. That is the key to the issue. No-one is in government for personal aggrandisement. Members are in government to deliver outcomes to people. That is the whole purpose of being in government and we do it better than the opposition did when it was in government.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Is that related to disability services? Mr C.J. Barnett : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay; that is an issue then. There is absolutely no doubt - no serious commentator on the issue would say anything else - that this government produces better outcomes for the people in the disability sector than did the previous government. Nobody will contest that. That is the key to the issue. No-one is in government for personal aggrandisement. Members are in government to deliver outcomes to people. That is the whole purpose of being in government and we do it better than the opposition did when it was in government.
Mr C.J. Barnett : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay; that is an issue then. There is absolutely no doubt - no serious commentator on the issue would say anything else - that this government produces better outcomes for the people in the disability sector than did the previous government. Nobody will contest that. That is the key to the issue. No-one is in government for personal aggrandisement. Members are in government to deliver outcomes to people. That is the whole purpose of being in government and we do it better than the opposition did when it was in government.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay; that is an issue then. There is absolutely no doubt - no serious commentator on the issue would say anything else - that this government produces better outcomes for the people in the disability sector than did the previous government. Nobody will contest that. That is the key to the issue. No-one is in government for personal aggrandisement. Members are in government to deliver outcomes to people. That is the whole purpose of being in government and we do it better than the opposition did when it was in government.

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