❓ Opposition questions the Premier about potential misuse of publicly funded electoral data by the ALP and unions, and the shared EBA between ALP and Magenta Linas employees. The Premier deflects and avoids directly answering.
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ELECTORAL DATABASE SYSTEMS - USE BY UNIONS
I refer to the $785 000 contract awarded last year to Magenta Linas Software Pty Ltd, the Australian Labor Party’s electoral database system manager, and also to the revelations from the Australian Council of Trade Unions’ election strategy that unions are being encouraged to use this software to target voters in marginal seats. (1) Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty-tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? (2) Why is it that employees of the ALP WA branch are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas? Mr A.J. CARPENTER
I refer to the $785 000 contract awarded last year to Magenta Linas Software Pty Ltd, the Australian Labor Party’s electoral database system manager, and also to the revelations from the Australian Council of Trade Unions’ election strategy that unions are being encouraged to use this software to target voters in marginal seats. (1) Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty-tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? (2) Why is it that employees of the ALP WA branch are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas? Mr A.J. CARPENTER
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(1)-(2) What was the last question again? The SPEAKER : Before the Premier begins, the question is about the staffing of the Australian Labor Party. I do not know how the Premier would in fact know that. Where the question requires knowledge of the Premier in relation to the functions of the Premier, he can answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sorry; I must admit that I did lose track of the question. I think this issue has been raised before. What was the last bit about the EBA? Mr M.J. Cowper : Why is it that employees of the ALP branch are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : ALP branch of what? Mr M.J. Cowper : Australian Labor Party WA branches are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know the answer to that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I know that some interesting conversations are going on that have nothing to do with the Premier’s answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : First of all, let me say that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition had his chance yesterday to stand and apologise, and he did not. He had the chance to redeem himself to some extent, and he did not. He is a disgrace to the Parliament. He stands, or, should I say, he sits condemned. Point of Order Mr P.D. OMODEI : I do not think the Premier is answering the question. I draw the Speaker’s attention to the standing orders. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. The Premier was, firstly, trying to ascertain what the question was, and he is now trying to answer it. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Indeed, I am trying to answer the question but I was interrupted by a shockingly abusive interjection from the member for Vasse, who has disgraced himself yet again in the Parliament by refusing to apologise, as he should have done, to the member for Bayswater. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In a private conversation with the member for Murdoch, I gave him a message that he should get more often. I will leave it at that. Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
(1) Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty-tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? (2) Why is it that employees of the ALP WA branch are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(2) What was the last question again? The SPEAKER : Before the Premier begins, the question is about the staffing of the Australian Labor Party. I do not know how the Premier would in fact know that. Where the question requires knowledge of the Premier in relation to the functions of the Premier, he can answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sorry; I must admit that I did lose track of the question. I think this issue has been raised before. What was the last bit about the EBA? Mr M.J. Cowper : Why is it that employees of the ALP branch are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : ALP branch of what? Mr M.J. Cowper : Australian Labor Party WA branches are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know the answer to that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I know that some interesting conversations are going on that have nothing to do with the Premier’s answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : First of all, let me say that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition had his chance yesterday to stand and apologise, and he did not. He had the chance to redeem himself to some extent, and he did not. He is a disgrace to the Parliament. He stands, or, should I say, he sits condemned. Point of Order Mr P.D. OMODEI : I do not think the Premier is answering the question. I draw the Speaker’s attention to the standing orders. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. The Premier was, firstly, trying to ascertain what the question was, and he is now trying to answer it. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Indeed, I am trying to answer the question but I was interrupted by a shockingly abusive interjection from the member for Vasse, who has disgraced himself yet again in the Parliament by refusing to apologise, as he should have done, to the member for Bayswater. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In a private conversation with the member for Murdoch, I gave him a message that he should get more often. I will leave it at that. Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
(2) Why is it that employees of the ALP WA branch are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(2) What was the last question again? The SPEAKER : Before the Premier begins, the question is about the staffing of the Australian Labor Party. I do not know how the Premier would in fact know that. Where the question requires knowledge of the Premier in relation to the functions of the Premier, he can answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sorry; I must admit that I did lose track of the question. I think this issue has been raised before. What was the last bit about the EBA? Mr M.J. Cowper : Why is it that employees of the ALP branch are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : ALP branch of what? Mr M.J. Cowper : Australian Labor Party WA branches are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know the answer to that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I know that some interesting conversations are going on that have nothing to do with the Premier’s answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : First of all, let me say that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition had his chance yesterday to stand and apologise, and he did not. He had the chance to redeem himself to some extent, and he did not. He is a disgrace to the Parliament. He stands, or, should I say, he sits condemned. Point of Order Mr P.D. OMODEI : I do not think the Premier is answering the question. I draw the Speaker’s attention to the standing orders. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. The Premier was, firstly, trying to ascertain what the question was, and he is now trying to answer it. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Indeed, I am trying to answer the question but I was interrupted by a shockingly abusive interjection from the member for Vasse, who has disgraced himself yet again in the Parliament by refusing to apologise, as he should have done, to the member for Bayswater. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In a private conversation with the member for Murdoch, I gave him a message that he should get more often. I will leave it at that. Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(2) What was the last question again? The SPEAKER : Before the Premier begins, the question is about the staffing of the Australian Labor Party. I do not know how the Premier would in fact know that. Where the question requires knowledge of the Premier in relation to the functions of the Premier, he can answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sorry; I must admit that I did lose track of the question. I think this issue has been raised before. What was the last bit about the EBA? Mr M.J. Cowper : Why is it that employees of the ALP branch are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : ALP branch of what? Mr M.J. Cowper : Australian Labor Party WA branches are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know the answer to that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I know that some interesting conversations are going on that have nothing to do with the Premier’s answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : First of all, let me say that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition had his chance yesterday to stand and apologise, and he did not. He had the chance to redeem himself to some extent, and he did not. He is a disgrace to the Parliament. He stands, or, should I say, he sits condemned. Point of Order Mr P.D. OMODEI : I do not think the Premier is answering the question. I draw the Speaker’s attention to the standing orders. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. The Premier was, firstly, trying to ascertain what the question was, and he is now trying to answer it. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Indeed, I am trying to answer the question but I was interrupted by a shockingly abusive interjection from the member for Vasse, who has disgraced himself yet again in the Parliament by refusing to apologise, as he should have done, to the member for Bayswater. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In a private conversation with the member for Murdoch, I gave him a message that he should get more often. I will leave it at that. Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
(1)-(2) What was the last question again? The SPEAKER : Before the Premier begins, the question is about the staffing of the Australian Labor Party. I do not know how the Premier would in fact know that. Where the question requires knowledge of the Premier in relation to the functions of the Premier, he can answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sorry; I must admit that I did lose track of the question. I think this issue has been raised before. What was the last bit about the EBA? Mr M.J. Cowper : Why is it that employees of the ALP branch are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : ALP branch of what? Mr M.J. Cowper : Australian Labor Party WA branches are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know the answer to that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I know that some interesting conversations are going on that have nothing to do with the Premier’s answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : First of all, let me say that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition had his chance yesterday to stand and apologise, and he did not. He had the chance to redeem himself to some extent, and he did not. He is a disgrace to the Parliament. He stands, or, should I say, he sits condemned. Point of Order Mr P.D. OMODEI : I do not think the Premier is answering the question. I draw the Speaker’s attention to the standing orders. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. The Premier was, firstly, trying to ascertain what the question was, and he is now trying to answer it. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Indeed, I am trying to answer the question but I was interrupted by a shockingly abusive interjection from the member for Vasse, who has disgraced himself yet again in the Parliament by refusing to apologise, as he should have done, to the member for Bayswater. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In a private conversation with the member for Murdoch, I gave him a message that he should get more often. I will leave it at that. Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
The SPEAKER : Before the Premier begins, the question is about the staffing of the Australian Labor Party. I do not know how the Premier would in fact know that. Where the question requires knowledge of the Premier in relation to the functions of the Premier, he can answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sorry; I must admit that I did lose track of the question. I think this issue has been raised before. What was the last bit about the EBA? Mr M.J. Cowper : Why is it that employees of the ALP branch are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : ALP branch of what? Mr M.J. Cowper : Australian Labor Party WA branches are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know the answer to that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I know that some interesting conversations are going on that have nothing to do with the Premier’s answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : First of all, let me say that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition had his chance yesterday to stand and apologise, and he did not. He had the chance to redeem himself to some extent, and he did not. He is a disgrace to the Parliament. He stands, or, should I say, he sits condemned. Point of Order Mr P.D. OMODEI : I do not think the Premier is answering the question. I draw the Speaker’s attention to the standing orders. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. The Premier was, firstly, trying to ascertain what the question was, and he is now trying to answer it. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Indeed, I am trying to answer the question but I was interrupted by a shockingly abusive interjection from the member for Vasse, who has disgraced himself yet again in the Parliament by refusing to apologise, as he should have done, to the member for Bayswater. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In a private conversation with the member for Murdoch, I gave him a message that he should get more often. I will leave it at that. Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sorry; I must admit that I did lose track of the question. I think this issue has been raised before. What was the last bit about the EBA? Mr M.J. Cowper : Why is it that employees of the ALP branch are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : ALP branch of what? Mr M.J. Cowper : Australian Labor Party WA branches are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know the answer to that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I know that some interesting conversations are going on that have nothing to do with the Premier’s answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : First of all, let me say that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition had his chance yesterday to stand and apologise, and he did not. He had the chance to redeem himself to some extent, and he did not. He is a disgrace to the Parliament. He stands, or, should I say, he sits condemned. Point of Order Mr P.D. OMODEI : I do not think the Premier is answering the question. I draw the Speaker’s attention to the standing orders. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. The Premier was, firstly, trying to ascertain what the question was, and he is now trying to answer it. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Indeed, I am trying to answer the question but I was interrupted by a shockingly abusive interjection from the member for Vasse, who has disgraced himself yet again in the Parliament by refusing to apologise, as he should have done, to the member for Bayswater. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In a private conversation with the member for Murdoch, I gave him a message that he should get more often. I will leave it at that. Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Mr M.J. Cowper : Why is it that employees of the ALP branch are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : ALP branch of what? Mr M.J. Cowper : Australian Labor Party WA branches are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know the answer to that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I know that some interesting conversations are going on that have nothing to do with the Premier’s answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : First of all, let me say that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition had his chance yesterday to stand and apologise, and he did not. He had the chance to redeem himself to some extent, and he did not. He is a disgrace to the Parliament. He stands, or, should I say, he sits condemned. Point of Order Mr P.D. OMODEI : I do not think the Premier is answering the question. I draw the Speaker’s attention to the standing orders. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. The Premier was, firstly, trying to ascertain what the question was, and he is now trying to answer it. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Indeed, I am trying to answer the question but I was interrupted by a shockingly abusive interjection from the member for Vasse, who has disgraced himself yet again in the Parliament by refusing to apologise, as he should have done, to the member for Bayswater. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In a private conversation with the member for Murdoch, I gave him a message that he should get more often. I will leave it at that. Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : ALP branch of what? Mr M.J. Cowper : Australian Labor Party WA branches are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know the answer to that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I know that some interesting conversations are going on that have nothing to do with the Premier’s answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : First of all, let me say that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition had his chance yesterday to stand and apologise, and he did not. He had the chance to redeem himself to some extent, and he did not. He is a disgrace to the Parliament. He stands, or, should I say, he sits condemned. Point of Order Mr P.D. OMODEI : I do not think the Premier is answering the question. I draw the Speaker’s attention to the standing orders. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. The Premier was, firstly, trying to ascertain what the question was, and he is now trying to answer it. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Indeed, I am trying to answer the question but I was interrupted by a shockingly abusive interjection from the member for Vasse, who has disgraced himself yet again in the Parliament by refusing to apologise, as he should have done, to the member for Bayswater. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In a private conversation with the member for Murdoch, I gave him a message that he should get more often. I will leave it at that. Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Mr M.J. Cowper : Australian Labor Party WA branches are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know the answer to that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I know that some interesting conversations are going on that have nothing to do with the Premier’s answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : First of all, let me say that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition had his chance yesterday to stand and apologise, and he did not. He had the chance to redeem himself to some extent, and he did not. He is a disgrace to the Parliament. He stands, or, should I say, he sits condemned. Point of Order Mr P.D. OMODEI : I do not think the Premier is answering the question. I draw the Speaker’s attention to the standing orders. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. The Premier was, firstly, trying to ascertain what the question was, and he is now trying to answer it. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Indeed, I am trying to answer the question but I was interrupted by a shockingly abusive interjection from the member for Vasse, who has disgraced himself yet again in the Parliament by refusing to apologise, as he should have done, to the member for Bayswater. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In a private conversation with the member for Murdoch, I gave him a message that he should get more often. I will leave it at that. Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know the answer to that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I know that some interesting conversations are going on that have nothing to do with the Premier’s answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : First of all, let me say that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition had his chance yesterday to stand and apologise, and he did not. He had the chance to redeem himself to some extent, and he did not. He is a disgrace to the Parliament. He stands, or, should I say, he sits condemned. Point of Order Mr P.D. OMODEI : I do not think the Premier is answering the question. I draw the Speaker’s attention to the standing orders. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. The Premier was, firstly, trying to ascertain what the question was, and he is now trying to answer it. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Indeed, I am trying to answer the question but I was interrupted by a shockingly abusive interjection from the member for Vasse, who has disgraced himself yet again in the Parliament by refusing to apologise, as he should have done, to the member for Bayswater. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In a private conversation with the member for Murdoch, I gave him a message that he should get more often. I will leave it at that. Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I know that some interesting conversations are going on that have nothing to do with the Premier’s answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : First of all, let me say that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition had his chance yesterday to stand and apologise, and he did not. He had the chance to redeem himself to some extent, and he did not. He is a disgrace to the Parliament. He stands, or, should I say, he sits condemned. Point of Order Mr P.D. OMODEI : I do not think the Premier is answering the question. I draw the Speaker’s attention to the standing orders. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. The Premier was, firstly, trying to ascertain what the question was, and he is now trying to answer it. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Indeed, I am trying to answer the question but I was interrupted by a shockingly abusive interjection from the member for Vasse, who has disgraced himself yet again in the Parliament by refusing to apologise, as he should have done, to the member for Bayswater. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In a private conversation with the member for Murdoch, I gave him a message that he should get more often. I will leave it at that. Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
The SPEAKER : I know that some interesting conversations are going on that have nothing to do with the Premier’s answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : First of all, let me say that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition had his chance yesterday to stand and apologise, and he did not. He had the chance to redeem himself to some extent, and he did not. He is a disgrace to the Parliament. He stands, or, should I say, he sits condemned. Point of Order Mr P.D. OMODEI : I do not think the Premier is answering the question. I draw the Speaker’s attention to the standing orders. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. The Premier was, firstly, trying to ascertain what the question was, and he is now trying to answer it. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Indeed, I am trying to answer the question but I was interrupted by a shockingly abusive interjection from the member for Vasse, who has disgraced himself yet again in the Parliament by refusing to apologise, as he should have done, to the member for Bayswater. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In a private conversation with the member for Murdoch, I gave him a message that he should get more often. I will leave it at that. Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : First of all, let me say that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition had his chance yesterday to stand and apologise, and he did not. He had the chance to redeem himself to some extent, and he did not. He is a disgrace to the Parliament. He stands, or, should I say, he sits condemned. Point of Order Mr P.D. OMODEI : I do not think the Premier is answering the question. I draw the Speaker’s attention to the standing orders. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. The Premier was, firstly, trying to ascertain what the question was, and he is now trying to answer it. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Indeed, I am trying to answer the question but I was interrupted by a shockingly abusive interjection from the member for Vasse, who has disgraced himself yet again in the Parliament by refusing to apologise, as he should have done, to the member for Bayswater. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In a private conversation with the member for Murdoch, I gave him a message that he should get more often. I will leave it at that. Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. The Premier was, firstly, trying to ascertain what the question was, and he is now trying to answer it. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Indeed, I am trying to answer the question but I was interrupted by a shockingly abusive interjection from the member for Vasse, who has disgraced himself yet again in the Parliament by refusing to apologise, as he should have done, to the member for Bayswater. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In a private conversation with the member for Murdoch, I gave him a message that he should get more often. I will leave it at that. Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In a private conversation with the member for Murdoch, I gave him a message that he should get more often. I will leave it at that. Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In a private conversation with the member for Murdoch, I gave him a message that he should get more often. I will leave it at that. Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
(1) Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty-tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? (2) Why is it that employees of the ALP WA branch are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(2) What was the last question again? The SPEAKER : Before the Premier begins, the question is about the staffing of the Australian Labor Party. I do not know how the Premier would in fact know that. Where the question requires knowledge of the Premier in relation to the functions of the Premier, he can answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sorry; I must admit that I did lose track of the question. I think this issue has been raised before. What was the last bit about the EBA? Mr M.J. Cowper : Why is it that employees of the ALP branch are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : ALP branch of what? Mr M.J. Cowper : Australian Labor Party WA branches are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know the answer to that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I know that some interesting conversations are going on that have nothing to do with the Premier’s answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : First of all, let me say that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition had his chance yesterday to stand and apologise, and he did not. He had the chance to redeem himself to some extent, and he did not. He is a disgrace to the Parliament. He stands, or, should I say, he sits condemned. Point of Order Mr P.D. OMODEI : I do not think the Premier is answering the question. I draw the Speaker’s attention to the standing orders. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. The Premier was, firstly, trying to ascertain what the question was, and he is now trying to answer it. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Indeed, I am trying to answer the question but I was interrupted by a shockingly abusive interjection from the member for Vasse, who has disgraced himself yet again in the Parliament by refusing to apologise, as he should have done, to the member for Bayswater. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In a private conversation with the member for Murdoch, I gave him a message that he should get more often. I will leave it at that. Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
(2) Why is it that employees of the ALP WA branch are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(2) What was the last question again? The SPEAKER : Before the Premier begins, the question is about the staffing of the Australian Labor Party. I do not know how the Premier would in fact know that. Where the question requires knowledge of the Premier in relation to the functions of the Premier, he can answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sorry; I must admit that I did lose track of the question. I think this issue has been raised before. What was the last bit about the EBA? Mr M.J. Cowper : Why is it that employees of the ALP branch are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : ALP branch of what? Mr M.J. Cowper : Australian Labor Party WA branches are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know the answer to that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I know that some interesting conversations are going on that have nothing to do with the Premier’s answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : First of all, let me say that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition had his chance yesterday to stand and apologise, and he did not. He had the chance to redeem himself to some extent, and he did not. He is a disgrace to the Parliament. He stands, or, should I say, he sits condemned. Point of Order Mr P.D. OMODEI : I do not think the Premier is answering the question. I draw the Speaker’s attention to the standing orders. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. The Premier was, firstly, trying to ascertain what the question was, and he is now trying to answer it. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Indeed, I am trying to answer the question but I was interrupted by a shockingly abusive interjection from the member for Vasse, who has disgraced himself yet again in the Parliament by refusing to apologise, as he should have done, to the member for Bayswater. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In a private conversation with the member for Murdoch, I gave him a message that he should get more often. I will leave it at that. Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(2) What was the last question again? The SPEAKER : Before the Premier begins, the question is about the staffing of the Australian Labor Party. I do not know how the Premier would in fact know that. Where the question requires knowledge of the Premier in relation to the functions of the Premier, he can answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sorry; I must admit that I did lose track of the question. I think this issue has been raised before. What was the last bit about the EBA? Mr M.J. Cowper : Why is it that employees of the ALP branch are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : ALP branch of what? Mr M.J. Cowper : Australian Labor Party WA branches are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know the answer to that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I know that some interesting conversations are going on that have nothing to do with the Premier’s answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : First of all, let me say that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition had his chance yesterday to stand and apologise, and he did not. He had the chance to redeem himself to some extent, and he did not. He is a disgrace to the Parliament. He stands, or, should I say, he sits condemned. Point of Order Mr P.D. OMODEI : I do not think the Premier is answering the question. I draw the Speaker’s attention to the standing orders. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. The Premier was, firstly, trying to ascertain what the question was, and he is now trying to answer it. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Indeed, I am trying to answer the question but I was interrupted by a shockingly abusive interjection from the member for Vasse, who has disgraced himself yet again in the Parliament by refusing to apologise, as he should have done, to the member for Bayswater. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In a private conversation with the member for Murdoch, I gave him a message that he should get more often. I will leave it at that. Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
(1)-(2) What was the last question again? The SPEAKER : Before the Premier begins, the question is about the staffing of the Australian Labor Party. I do not know how the Premier would in fact know that. Where the question requires knowledge of the Premier in relation to the functions of the Premier, he can answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sorry; I must admit that I did lose track of the question. I think this issue has been raised before. What was the last bit about the EBA? Mr M.J. Cowper : Why is it that employees of the ALP branch are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : ALP branch of what? Mr M.J. Cowper : Australian Labor Party WA branches are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know the answer to that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I know that some interesting conversations are going on that have nothing to do with the Premier’s answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : First of all, let me say that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition had his chance yesterday to stand and apologise, and he did not. He had the chance to redeem himself to some extent, and he did not. He is a disgrace to the Parliament. He stands, or, should I say, he sits condemned. Point of Order Mr P.D. OMODEI : I do not think the Premier is answering the question. I draw the Speaker’s attention to the standing orders. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. The Premier was, firstly, trying to ascertain what the question was, and he is now trying to answer it. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Indeed, I am trying to answer the question but I was interrupted by a shockingly abusive interjection from the member for Vasse, who has disgraced himself yet again in the Parliament by refusing to apologise, as he should have done, to the member for Bayswater. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In a private conversation with the member for Murdoch, I gave him a message that he should get more often. I will leave it at that. Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
The SPEAKER : Before the Premier begins, the question is about the staffing of the Australian Labor Party. I do not know how the Premier would in fact know that. Where the question requires knowledge of the Premier in relation to the functions of the Premier, he can answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sorry; I must admit that I did lose track of the question. I think this issue has been raised before. What was the last bit about the EBA? Mr M.J. Cowper : Why is it that employees of the ALP branch are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : ALP branch of what? Mr M.J. Cowper : Australian Labor Party WA branches are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know the answer to that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I know that some interesting conversations are going on that have nothing to do with the Premier’s answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : First of all, let me say that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition had his chance yesterday to stand and apologise, and he did not. He had the chance to redeem himself to some extent, and he did not. He is a disgrace to the Parliament. He stands, or, should I say, he sits condemned. Point of Order Mr P.D. OMODEI : I do not think the Premier is answering the question. I draw the Speaker’s attention to the standing orders. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. The Premier was, firstly, trying to ascertain what the question was, and he is now trying to answer it. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Indeed, I am trying to answer the question but I was interrupted by a shockingly abusive interjection from the member for Vasse, who has disgraced himself yet again in the Parliament by refusing to apologise, as he should have done, to the member for Bayswater. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In a private conversation with the member for Murdoch, I gave him a message that he should get more often. I will leave it at that. Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am sorry; I must admit that I did lose track of the question. I think this issue has been raised before. What was the last bit about the EBA? Mr M.J. Cowper : Why is it that employees of the ALP branch are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : ALP branch of what? Mr M.J. Cowper : Australian Labor Party WA branches are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know the answer to that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I know that some interesting conversations are going on that have nothing to do with the Premier’s answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : First of all, let me say that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition had his chance yesterday to stand and apologise, and he did not. He had the chance to redeem himself to some extent, and he did not. He is a disgrace to the Parliament. He stands, or, should I say, he sits condemned. Point of Order Mr P.D. OMODEI : I do not think the Premier is answering the question. I draw the Speaker’s attention to the standing orders. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. The Premier was, firstly, trying to ascertain what the question was, and he is now trying to answer it. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Indeed, I am trying to answer the question but I was interrupted by a shockingly abusive interjection from the member for Vasse, who has disgraced himself yet again in the Parliament by refusing to apologise, as he should have done, to the member for Bayswater. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In a private conversation with the member for Murdoch, I gave him a message that he should get more often. I will leave it at that. Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Mr M.J. Cowper : Why is it that employees of the ALP branch are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : ALP branch of what? Mr M.J. Cowper : Australian Labor Party WA branches are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know the answer to that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I know that some interesting conversations are going on that have nothing to do with the Premier’s answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : First of all, let me say that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition had his chance yesterday to stand and apologise, and he did not. He had the chance to redeem himself to some extent, and he did not. He is a disgrace to the Parliament. He stands, or, should I say, he sits condemned. Point of Order Mr P.D. OMODEI : I do not think the Premier is answering the question. I draw the Speaker’s attention to the standing orders. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. The Premier was, firstly, trying to ascertain what the question was, and he is now trying to answer it. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Indeed, I am trying to answer the question but I was interrupted by a shockingly abusive interjection from the member for Vasse, who has disgraced himself yet again in the Parliament by refusing to apologise, as he should have done, to the member for Bayswater. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In a private conversation with the member for Murdoch, I gave him a message that he should get more often. I will leave it at that. Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : ALP branch of what? Mr M.J. Cowper : Australian Labor Party WA branches are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know the answer to that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I know that some interesting conversations are going on that have nothing to do with the Premier’s answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : First of all, let me say that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition had his chance yesterday to stand and apologise, and he did not. He had the chance to redeem himself to some extent, and he did not. He is a disgrace to the Parliament. He stands, or, should I say, he sits condemned. Point of Order Mr P.D. OMODEI : I do not think the Premier is answering the question. I draw the Speaker’s attention to the standing orders. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. The Premier was, firstly, trying to ascertain what the question was, and he is now trying to answer it. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Indeed, I am trying to answer the question but I was interrupted by a shockingly abusive interjection from the member for Vasse, who has disgraced himself yet again in the Parliament by refusing to apologise, as he should have done, to the member for Bayswater. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In a private conversation with the member for Murdoch, I gave him a message that he should get more often. I will leave it at that. Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Mr M.J. Cowper : Australian Labor Party WA branches are covered by the same enterprise bargaining agreement as employees of Magenta Linas. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know the answer to that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I know that some interesting conversations are going on that have nothing to do with the Premier’s answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : First of all, let me say that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition had his chance yesterday to stand and apologise, and he did not. He had the chance to redeem himself to some extent, and he did not. He is a disgrace to the Parliament. He stands, or, should I say, he sits condemned. Point of Order Mr P.D. OMODEI : I do not think the Premier is answering the question. I draw the Speaker’s attention to the standing orders. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. The Premier was, firstly, trying to ascertain what the question was, and he is now trying to answer it. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Indeed, I am trying to answer the question but I was interrupted by a shockingly abusive interjection from the member for Vasse, who has disgraced himself yet again in the Parliament by refusing to apologise, as he should have done, to the member for Bayswater. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In a private conversation with the member for Murdoch, I gave him a message that he should get more often. I will leave it at that. Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know the answer to that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I know that some interesting conversations are going on that have nothing to do with the Premier’s answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : First of all, let me say that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition had his chance yesterday to stand and apologise, and he did not. He had the chance to redeem himself to some extent, and he did not. He is a disgrace to the Parliament. He stands, or, should I say, he sits condemned. Point of Order Mr P.D. OMODEI : I do not think the Premier is answering the question. I draw the Speaker’s attention to the standing orders. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. The Premier was, firstly, trying to ascertain what the question was, and he is now trying to answer it. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Indeed, I am trying to answer the question but I was interrupted by a shockingly abusive interjection from the member for Vasse, who has disgraced himself yet again in the Parliament by refusing to apologise, as he should have done, to the member for Bayswater. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In a private conversation with the member for Murdoch, I gave him a message that he should get more often. I will leave it at that. Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I know that some interesting conversations are going on that have nothing to do with the Premier’s answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : First of all, let me say that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition had his chance yesterday to stand and apologise, and he did not. He had the chance to redeem himself to some extent, and he did not. He is a disgrace to the Parliament. He stands, or, should I say, he sits condemned. Point of Order Mr P.D. OMODEI : I do not think the Premier is answering the question. I draw the Speaker’s attention to the standing orders. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. The Premier was, firstly, trying to ascertain what the question was, and he is now trying to answer it. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Indeed, I am trying to answer the question but I was interrupted by a shockingly abusive interjection from the member for Vasse, who has disgraced himself yet again in the Parliament by refusing to apologise, as he should have done, to the member for Bayswater. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In a private conversation with the member for Murdoch, I gave him a message that he should get more often. I will leave it at that. Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
The SPEAKER : I know that some interesting conversations are going on that have nothing to do with the Premier’s answer. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : First of all, let me say that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition had his chance yesterday to stand and apologise, and he did not. He had the chance to redeem himself to some extent, and he did not. He is a disgrace to the Parliament. He stands, or, should I say, he sits condemned. Point of Order Mr P.D. OMODEI : I do not think the Premier is answering the question. I draw the Speaker’s attention to the standing orders. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. The Premier was, firstly, trying to ascertain what the question was, and he is now trying to answer it. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Indeed, I am trying to answer the question but I was interrupted by a shockingly abusive interjection from the member for Vasse, who has disgraced himself yet again in the Parliament by refusing to apologise, as he should have done, to the member for Bayswater. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In a private conversation with the member for Murdoch, I gave him a message that he should get more often. I will leave it at that. Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : First of all, let me say that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition had his chance yesterday to stand and apologise, and he did not. He had the chance to redeem himself to some extent, and he did not. He is a disgrace to the Parliament. He stands, or, should I say, he sits condemned. Point of Order Mr P.D. OMODEI : I do not think the Premier is answering the question. I draw the Speaker’s attention to the standing orders. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. The Premier was, firstly, trying to ascertain what the question was, and he is now trying to answer it. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Indeed, I am trying to answer the question but I was interrupted by a shockingly abusive interjection from the member for Vasse, who has disgraced himself yet again in the Parliament by refusing to apologise, as he should have done, to the member for Bayswater. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In a private conversation with the member for Murdoch, I gave him a message that he should get more often. I will leave it at that. Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. The Premier was, firstly, trying to ascertain what the question was, and he is now trying to answer it. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Indeed, I am trying to answer the question but I was interrupted by a shockingly abusive interjection from the member for Vasse, who has disgraced himself yet again in the Parliament by refusing to apologise, as he should have done, to the member for Bayswater. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In a private conversation with the member for Murdoch, I gave him a message that he should get more often. I will leave it at that. Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In a private conversation with the member for Murdoch, I gave him a message that he should get more often. I will leave it at that. Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In a private conversation with the member for Murdoch, I gave him a message that he should get more often. I will leave it at that. Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Mr G. Snook : Tell us what you said. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I am quite prepared to repeat the message and any other conversation I had with him - not between us. Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Mr T.R. Sprigg : The former Premier would not carry on like you did. He would not say those things. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I come from the sort of background where I learnt how to deal with people such as the member for Murdoch at a very young age. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never be intimidated. In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
In relation to the second part of the question, I do not know how I would know the answer. I do not know whether the member knows what he is asking; therefore, it is very difficult for me to answer that question. Would the member please repeat the first part of the question? Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Mr M.J. Cowper : Can the Premier guarantee that no information held by ALP members in publicly funded electoral database systems has been, or will be, passed on to unions for use in their deceptive dirty tricks campaign in the upcoming federal election? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Again, I do not know how to respond to that in a meaningful way other than to say that I do not believe any information of any sensitivity should be passed on for use by people inappropriately, and that might be a little lesson that the member for Vasse should learn.
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