❓ Hon Ken Travers questions Hon Norman Moore, Minister for Mines and Petroleum, regarding a potential conflict of interest due to the Minister's wife's shares. The Minister's response is defensive and reveals he sought advice from the State Solicitor.
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MINISTER FOR MINES AND PETROLEUM — CONFLICT OF INTEREST 55. Hon KEN TRAVERS to the Minister for Mines and Petroleum: I refer to the legal advice the Minister for Mines and Petroleum mentioned in his previous answer to me. (1) Who requested the advice from the State Solicitor? (2) What role did the minister have in requesting the advice, and how did the minister ensure that the advice had regard to the ministerial code of conduct? Hon NORMAN MOORE
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(1)-(2) I do not know how many times I have to explain to this member that I have been completely open and upfront about all this. The fact that my wife has shares was disclosed by me. There has been nothing hidden by me or anybody else in respect to this. Hon Ken Travers : You haven’t divested them. Hon NORMAN MOORE : Does the member want me to answer the question or not? Hon Ken Travers : Yes. Hon NORMAN MOORE : So, just shut up then! Give me a minute. I discussed the situation with the State Solicitor and I said, “Can you tell me what I need to do in respect of any conflict of interest issues in relation to my ministerial portfolio? These are the circumstances of my wife and I—our joint superannuation fund.” He provided me with the advice, which I have outlined to the member on numerous occasions, and I followed it to the letter and I will continue to do that. That will not satisfy the member because for some reason or other the member seems to think that my wife should have to sell off a significant portion of her superannuation fund to meet his political agenda. If the member does not think that the State Solicitor has given the proper advice, then he should go and talk to him. The PRESIDENT : Hon Sally Talbot. Hon Ken Travers : But it’s your responsibility! Hon Norman Moore : I told you what he said! The PRESIDENT : Hon Ken Travers, I have given the call to Hon Sally Talbot. This is question time; it is not a time for a debate.
MINISTER FOR MINES AND PETROLEUM — CONFLICT OF INTEREST
I refer to the legal advice the Minister for Mines and Petroleum mentioned in his previous answer to me. (1) Who requested the advice from the State Solicitor? (2) What role did the minister have in requesting the advice, and how did the minister ensure that the advice had regard to the ministerial code of conduct? Hon NORMAN MOORE replied: (1)-(2) I do not know how many times I have to explain to this member that I have been completely open and upfront about all this. The fact that my wife has shares was disclosed by me. There has been nothing hidden by me or anybody else in respect to this. Hon Ken Travers : You haven’t divested them. Hon NORMAN MOORE : Does the member want me to answer the question or not? Hon Ken Travers : Yes. Hon NORMAN MOORE : So, just shut up then! Give me a minute. I discussed the situation with the State Solicitor and I said, “Can you tell me what I need to do in respect of any conflict of interest issues in relation to my ministerial portfolio? These are the circumstances of my wife and I—our joint superannuation fund.” He provided me with the advice, which I have outlined to the member on numerous occasions, and I followed it to the letter and I will continue to do that. That will not satisfy the member because for some reason or other the member seems to think that my wife should have to sell off a significant portion of her superannuation fund to meet his political agenda. If the member does not think that the State Solicitor has given the proper advice, then he should go and talk to him. The PRESIDENT : Hon Sally Talbot. Hon Ken Travers : But it’s your responsibility! Hon Norman Moore : I told you what he said! The PRESIDENT : Hon Ken Travers, I have given the call to Hon Sally Talbot. This is question time; it is not a time for a debate.
(1) Who requested the advice from the State Solicitor? (2) What role did the minister have in requesting the advice, and how did the minister ensure that the advice had regard to the ministerial code of conduct? Hon NORMAN MOORE replied: (1)-(2) I do not know how many times I have to explain to this member that I have been completely open and upfront about all this. The fact that my wife has shares was disclosed by me. There has been nothing hidden by me or anybody else in respect to this. Hon Ken Travers : You haven’t divested them. Hon NORMAN MOORE : Does the member want me to answer the question or not? Hon Ken Travers : Yes. Hon NORMAN MOORE : So, just shut up then! Give me a minute. I discussed the situation with the State Solicitor and I said, “Can you tell me what I need to do in respect of any conflict of interest issues in relation to my ministerial portfolio? These are the circumstances of my wife and I—our joint superannuation fund.” He provided me with the advice, which I have outlined to the member on numerous occasions, and I followed it to the letter and I will continue to do that. That will not satisfy the member because for some reason or other the member seems to think that my wife should have to sell off a significant portion of her superannuation fund to meet his political agenda. If the member does not think that the State Solicitor has given the proper advice, then he should go and talk to him. The PRESIDENT : Hon Sally Talbot. Hon Ken Travers : But it’s your responsibility! Hon Norman Moore : I told you what he said! The PRESIDENT : Hon Ken Travers, I have given the call to Hon Sally Talbot. This is question time; it is not a time for a debate.
(2) What role did the minister have in requesting the advice, and how did the minister ensure that the advice had regard to the ministerial code of conduct? Hon NORMAN MOORE replied: (1)-(2) I do not know how many times I have to explain to this member that I have been completely open and upfront about all this. The fact that my wife has shares was disclosed by me. There has been nothing hidden by me or anybody else in respect to this. Hon Ken Travers : You haven’t divested them. Hon NORMAN MOORE : Does the member want me to answer the question or not? Hon Ken Travers : Yes. Hon NORMAN MOORE : So, just shut up then! Give me a minute. I discussed the situation with the State Solicitor and I said, “Can you tell me what I need to do in respect of any conflict of interest issues in relation to my ministerial portfolio? These are the circumstances of my wife and I—our joint superannuation fund.” He provided me with the advice, which I have outlined to the member on numerous occasions, and I followed it to the letter and I will continue to do that. That will not satisfy the member because for some reason or other the member seems to think that my wife should have to sell off a significant portion of her superannuation fund to meet his political agenda. If the member does not think that the State Solicitor has given the proper advice, then he should go and talk to him. The PRESIDENT : Hon Sally Talbot. Hon Ken Travers : But it’s your responsibility! Hon Norman Moore : I told you what he said! The PRESIDENT : Hon Ken Travers, I have given the call to Hon Sally Talbot. This is question time; it is not a time for a debate.
Hon NORMAN MOORE replied: (1)-(2) I do not know how many times I have to explain to this member that I have been completely open and upfront about all this. The fact that my wife has shares was disclosed by me. There has been nothing hidden by me or anybody else in respect to this. Hon Ken Travers : You haven’t divested them. Hon NORMAN MOORE : Does the member want me to answer the question or not? Hon Ken Travers : Yes. Hon NORMAN MOORE : So, just shut up then! Give me a minute. I discussed the situation with the State Solicitor and I said, “Can you tell me what I need to do in respect of any conflict of interest issues in relation to my ministerial portfolio? These are the circumstances of my wife and I—our joint superannuation fund.” He provided me with the advice, which I have outlined to the member on numerous occasions, and I followed it to the letter and I will continue to do that. That will not satisfy the member because for some reason or other the member seems to think that my wife should have to sell off a significant portion of her superannuation fund to meet his political agenda. If the member does not think that the State Solicitor has given the proper advice, then he should go and talk to him. The PRESIDENT : Hon Sally Talbot. Hon Ken Travers : But it’s your responsibility! Hon Norman Moore : I told you what he said! The PRESIDENT : Hon Ken Travers, I have given the call to Hon Sally Talbot. This is question time; it is not a time for a debate.
(1)-(2) I do not know how many times I have to explain to this member that I have been completely open and upfront about all this. The fact that my wife has shares was disclosed by me. There has been nothing hidden by me or anybody else in respect to this. Hon Ken Travers : You haven’t divested them. Hon NORMAN MOORE : Does the member want me to answer the question or not? Hon Ken Travers : Yes. Hon NORMAN MOORE : So, just shut up then! Give me a minute. I discussed the situation with the State Solicitor and I said, “Can you tell me what I need to do in respect of any conflict of interest issues in relation to my ministerial portfolio? These are the circumstances of my wife and I—our joint superannuation fund.” He provided me with the advice, which I have outlined to the member on numerous occasions, and I followed it to the letter and I will continue to do that. That will not satisfy the member because for some reason or other the member seems to think that my wife should have to sell off a significant portion of her superannuation fund to meet his political agenda. If the member does not think that the State Solicitor has given the proper advice, then he should go and talk to him. The PRESIDENT : Hon Sally Talbot. Hon Ken Travers : But it’s your responsibility! Hon Norman Moore : I told you what he said! The PRESIDENT : Hon Ken Travers, I have given the call to Hon Sally Talbot. This is question time; it is not a time for a debate.
Hon Ken Travers : You haven’t divested them. Hon NORMAN MOORE : Does the member want me to answer the question or not? Hon Ken Travers : Yes. Hon NORMAN MOORE : So, just shut up then! Give me a minute. I discussed the situation with the State Solicitor and I said, “Can you tell me what I need to do in respect of any conflict of interest issues in relation to my ministerial portfolio? These are the circumstances of my wife and I—our joint superannuation fund.” He provided me with the advice, which I have outlined to the member on numerous occasions, and I followed it to the letter and I will continue to do that. That will not satisfy the member because for some reason or other the member seems to think that my wife should have to sell off a significant portion of her superannuation fund to meet his political agenda. If the member does not think that the State Solicitor has given the proper advice, then he should go and talk to him. The PRESIDENT : Hon Sally Talbot. Hon Ken Travers : But it’s your responsibility! Hon Norman Moore : I told you what he said! The PRESIDENT : Hon Ken Travers, I have given the call to Hon Sally Talbot. This is question time; it is not a time for a debate.
Hon NORMAN MOORE : Does the member want me to answer the question or not? Hon Ken Travers : Yes. Hon NORMAN MOORE : So, just shut up then! Give me a minute. I discussed the situation with the State Solicitor and I said, “Can you tell me what I need to do in respect of any conflict of interest issues in relation to my ministerial portfolio? These are the circumstances of my wife and I—our joint superannuation fund.” He provided me with the advice, which I have outlined to the member on numerous occasions, and I followed it to the letter and I will continue to do that. That will not satisfy the member because for some reason or other the member seems to think that my wife should have to sell off a significant portion of her superannuation fund to meet his political agenda. If the member does not think that the State Solicitor has given the proper advice, then he should go and talk to him. The PRESIDENT : Hon Sally Talbot. Hon Ken Travers : But it’s your responsibility! Hon Norman Moore : I told you what he said! The PRESIDENT : Hon Ken Travers, I have given the call to Hon Sally Talbot. This is question time; it is not a time for a debate.
Hon Ken Travers : Yes. Hon NORMAN MOORE : So, just shut up then! Give me a minute. I discussed the situation with the State Solicitor and I said, “Can you tell me what I need to do in respect of any conflict of interest issues in relation to my ministerial portfolio? These are the circumstances of my wife and I—our joint superannuation fund.” He provided me with the advice, which I have outlined to the member on numerous occasions, and I followed it to the letter and I will continue to do that. That will not satisfy the member because for some reason or other the member seems to think that my wife should have to sell off a significant portion of her superannuation fund to meet his political agenda. If the member does not think that the State Solicitor has given the proper advice, then he should go and talk to him. The PRESIDENT : Hon Sally Talbot. Hon Ken Travers : But it’s your responsibility! Hon Norman Moore : I told you what he said! The PRESIDENT : Hon Ken Travers, I have given the call to Hon Sally Talbot. This is question time; it is not a time for a debate.
Hon NORMAN MOORE : So, just shut up then! Give me a minute. I discussed the situation with the State Solicitor and I said, “Can you tell me what I need to do in respect of any conflict of interest issues in relation to my ministerial portfolio? These are the circumstances of my wife and I—our joint superannuation fund.” He provided me with the advice, which I have outlined to the member on numerous occasions, and I followed it to the letter and I will continue to do that. That will not satisfy the member because for some reason or other the member seems to think that my wife should have to sell off a significant portion of her superannuation fund to meet his political agenda. If the member does not think that the State Solicitor has given the proper advice, then he should go and talk to him. The PRESIDENT : Hon Sally Talbot. Hon Ken Travers : But it’s your responsibility! Hon Norman Moore : I told you what he said! The PRESIDENT : Hon Ken Travers, I have given the call to Hon Sally Talbot. This is question time; it is not a time for a debate.
I discussed the situation with the State Solicitor and I said, “Can you tell me what I need to do in respect of any conflict of interest issues in relation to my ministerial portfolio? These are the circumstances of my wife and I—our joint superannuation fund.” He provided me with the advice, which I have outlined to the member on numerous occasions, and I followed it to the letter and I will continue to do that. That will not satisfy the member because for some reason or other the member seems to think that my wife should have to sell off a significant portion of her superannuation fund to meet his political agenda. If the member does not think that the State Solicitor has given the proper advice, then he should go and talk to him. The PRESIDENT : Hon Sally Talbot. Hon Ken Travers : But it’s your responsibility! Hon Norman Moore : I told you what he said! The PRESIDENT : Hon Ken Travers, I have given the call to Hon Sally Talbot. This is question time; it is not a time for a debate.
The PRESIDENT : Hon Sally Talbot. Hon Ken Travers : But it’s your responsibility! Hon Norman Moore : I told you what he said! The PRESIDENT : Hon Ken Travers, I have given the call to Hon Sally Talbot. This is question time; it is not a time for a debate.
Hon Ken Travers : But it’s your responsibility! Hon Norman Moore : I told you what he said! The PRESIDENT : Hon Ken Travers, I have given the call to Hon Sally Talbot. This is question time; it is not a time for a debate.
Hon Norman Moore : I told you what he said! The PRESIDENT : Hon Ken Travers, I have given the call to Hon Sally Talbot. This is question time; it is not a time for a debate.
The PRESIDENT : Hon Ken Travers, I have given the call to Hon Sally Talbot. This is question time; it is not a time for a debate.
MINISTER FOR MINES AND PETROLEUM — CONFLICT OF INTEREST
I refer to the legal advice the Minister for Mines and Petroleum mentioned in his previous answer to me. (1) Who requested the advice from the State Solicitor? (2) What role did the minister have in requesting the advice, and how did the minister ensure that the advice had regard to the ministerial code of conduct? Hon NORMAN MOORE replied: (1)-(2) I do not know how many times I have to explain to this member that I have been completely open and upfront about all this. The fact that my wife has shares was disclosed by me. There has been nothing hidden by me or anybody else in respect to this. Hon Ken Travers : You haven’t divested them. Hon NORMAN MOORE : Does the member want me to answer the question or not? Hon Ken Travers : Yes. Hon NORMAN MOORE : So, just shut up then! Give me a minute. I discussed the situation with the State Solicitor and I said, “Can you tell me what I need to do in respect of any conflict of interest issues in relation to my ministerial portfolio? These are the circumstances of my wife and I—our joint superannuation fund.” He provided me with the advice, which I have outlined to the member on numerous occasions, and I followed it to the letter and I will continue to do that. That will not satisfy the member because for some reason or other the member seems to think that my wife should have to sell off a significant portion of her superannuation fund to meet his political agenda. If the member does not think that the State Solicitor has given the proper advice, then he should go and talk to him. The PRESIDENT : Hon Sally Talbot. Hon Ken Travers : But it’s your responsibility! Hon Norman Moore : I told you what he said! The PRESIDENT : Hon Ken Travers, I have given the call to Hon Sally Talbot. This is question time; it is not a time for a debate.
(1) Who requested the advice from the State Solicitor? (2) What role did the minister have in requesting the advice, and how did the minister ensure that the advice had regard to the ministerial code of conduct? Hon NORMAN MOORE replied: (1)-(2) I do not know how many times I have to explain to this member that I have been completely open and upfront about all this. The fact that my wife has shares was disclosed by me. There has been nothing hidden by me or anybody else in respect to this. Hon Ken Travers : You haven’t divested them. Hon NORMAN MOORE : Does the member want me to answer the question or not? Hon Ken Travers : Yes. Hon NORMAN MOORE : So, just shut up then! Give me a minute. I discussed the situation with the State Solicitor and I said, “Can you tell me what I need to do in respect of any conflict of interest issues in relation to my ministerial portfolio? These are the circumstances of my wife and I—our joint superannuation fund.” He provided me with the advice, which I have outlined to the member on numerous occasions, and I followed it to the letter and I will continue to do that. That will not satisfy the member because for some reason or other the member seems to think that my wife should have to sell off a significant portion of her superannuation fund to meet his political agenda. If the member does not think that the State Solicitor has given the proper advice, then he should go and talk to him. The PRESIDENT : Hon Sally Talbot. Hon Ken Travers : But it’s your responsibility! Hon Norman Moore : I told you what he said! The PRESIDENT : Hon Ken Travers, I have given the call to Hon Sally Talbot. This is question time; it is not a time for a debate.
(2) What role did the minister have in requesting the advice, and how did the minister ensure that the advice had regard to the ministerial code of conduct? Hon NORMAN MOORE replied: (1)-(2) I do not know how many times I have to explain to this member that I have been completely open and upfront about all this. The fact that my wife has shares was disclosed by me. There has been nothing hidden by me or anybody else in respect to this. Hon Ken Travers : You haven’t divested them. Hon NORMAN MOORE : Does the member want me to answer the question or not? Hon Ken Travers : Yes. Hon NORMAN MOORE : So, just shut up then! Give me a minute. I discussed the situation with the State Solicitor and I said, “Can you tell me what I need to do in respect of any conflict of interest issues in relation to my ministerial portfolio? These are the circumstances of my wife and I—our joint superannuation fund.” He provided me with the advice, which I have outlined to the member on numerous occasions, and I followed it to the letter and I will continue to do that. That will not satisfy the member because for some reason or other the member seems to think that my wife should have to sell off a significant portion of her superannuation fund to meet his political agenda. If the member does not think that the State Solicitor has given the proper advice, then he should go and talk to him. The PRESIDENT : Hon Sally Talbot. Hon Ken Travers : But it’s your responsibility! Hon Norman Moore : I told you what he said! The PRESIDENT : Hon Ken Travers, I have given the call to Hon Sally Talbot. This is question time; it is not a time for a debate.
Hon NORMAN MOORE replied: (1)-(2) I do not know how many times I have to explain to this member that I have been completely open and upfront about all this. The fact that my wife has shares was disclosed by me. There has been nothing hidden by me or anybody else in respect to this. Hon Ken Travers : You haven’t divested them. Hon NORMAN MOORE : Does the member want me to answer the question or not? Hon Ken Travers : Yes. Hon NORMAN MOORE : So, just shut up then! Give me a minute. I discussed the situation with the State Solicitor and I said, “Can you tell me what I need to do in respect of any conflict of interest issues in relation to my ministerial portfolio? These are the circumstances of my wife and I—our joint superannuation fund.” He provided me with the advice, which I have outlined to the member on numerous occasions, and I followed it to the letter and I will continue to do that. That will not satisfy the member because for some reason or other the member seems to think that my wife should have to sell off a significant portion of her superannuation fund to meet his political agenda. If the member does not think that the State Solicitor has given the proper advice, then he should go and talk to him. The PRESIDENT : Hon Sally Talbot. Hon Ken Travers : But it’s your responsibility! Hon Norman Moore : I told you what he said! The PRESIDENT : Hon Ken Travers, I have given the call to Hon Sally Talbot. This is question time; it is not a time for a debate.
(1)-(2) I do not know how many times I have to explain to this member that I have been completely open and upfront about all this. The fact that my wife has shares was disclosed by me. There has been nothing hidden by me or anybody else in respect to this. Hon Ken Travers : You haven’t divested them. Hon NORMAN MOORE : Does the member want me to answer the question or not? Hon Ken Travers : Yes. Hon NORMAN MOORE : So, just shut up then! Give me a minute. I discussed the situation with the State Solicitor and I said, “Can you tell me what I need to do in respect of any conflict of interest issues in relation to my ministerial portfolio? These are the circumstances of my wife and I—our joint superannuation fund.” He provided me with the advice, which I have outlined to the member on numerous occasions, and I followed it to the letter and I will continue to do that. That will not satisfy the member because for some reason or other the member seems to think that my wife should have to sell off a significant portion of her superannuation fund to meet his political agenda. If the member does not think that the State Solicitor has given the proper advice, then he should go and talk to him. The PRESIDENT : Hon Sally Talbot. Hon Ken Travers : But it’s your responsibility! Hon Norman Moore : I told you what he said! The PRESIDENT : Hon Ken Travers, I have given the call to Hon Sally Talbot. This is question time; it is not a time for a debate.
Hon Ken Travers : You haven’t divested them. Hon NORMAN MOORE : Does the member want me to answer the question or not? Hon Ken Travers : Yes. Hon NORMAN MOORE : So, just shut up then! Give me a minute. I discussed the situation with the State Solicitor and I said, “Can you tell me what I need to do in respect of any conflict of interest issues in relation to my ministerial portfolio? These are the circumstances of my wife and I—our joint superannuation fund.” He provided me with the advice, which I have outlined to the member on numerous occasions, and I followed it to the letter and I will continue to do that. That will not satisfy the member because for some reason or other the member seems to think that my wife should have to sell off a significant portion of her superannuation fund to meet his political agenda. If the member does not think that the State Solicitor has given the proper advice, then he should go and talk to him. The PRESIDENT : Hon Sally Talbot. Hon Ken Travers : But it’s your responsibility! Hon Norman Moore : I told you what he said! The PRESIDENT : Hon Ken Travers, I have given the call to Hon Sally Talbot. This is question time; it is not a time for a debate.
Hon NORMAN MOORE : Does the member want me to answer the question or not? Hon Ken Travers : Yes. Hon NORMAN MOORE : So, just shut up then! Give me a minute. I discussed the situation with the State Solicitor and I said, “Can you tell me what I need to do in respect of any conflict of interest issues in relation to my ministerial portfolio? These are the circumstances of my wife and I—our joint superannuation fund.” He provided me with the advice, which I have outlined to the member on numerous occasions, and I followed it to the letter and I will continue to do that. That will not satisfy the member because for some reason or other the member seems to think that my wife should have to sell off a significant portion of her superannuation fund to meet his political agenda. If the member does not think that the State Solicitor has given the proper advice, then he should go and talk to him. The PRESIDENT : Hon Sally Talbot. Hon Ken Travers : But it’s your responsibility! Hon Norman Moore : I told you what he said! The PRESIDENT : Hon Ken Travers, I have given the call to Hon Sally Talbot. This is question time; it is not a time for a debate.
Hon Ken Travers : Yes. Hon NORMAN MOORE : So, just shut up then! Give me a minute. I discussed the situation with the State Solicitor and I said, “Can you tell me what I need to do in respect of any conflict of interest issues in relation to my ministerial portfolio? These are the circumstances of my wife and I—our joint superannuation fund.” He provided me with the advice, which I have outlined to the member on numerous occasions, and I followed it to the letter and I will continue to do that. That will not satisfy the member because for some reason or other the member seems to think that my wife should have to sell off a significant portion of her superannuation fund to meet his political agenda. If the member does not think that the State Solicitor has given the proper advice, then he should go and talk to him. The PRESIDENT : Hon Sally Talbot. Hon Ken Travers : But it’s your responsibility! Hon Norman Moore : I told you what he said! The PRESIDENT : Hon Ken Travers, I have given the call to Hon Sally Talbot. This is question time; it is not a time for a debate.
Hon NORMAN MOORE : So, just shut up then! Give me a minute. I discussed the situation with the State Solicitor and I said, “Can you tell me what I need to do in respect of any conflict of interest issues in relation to my ministerial portfolio? These are the circumstances of my wife and I—our joint superannuation fund.” He provided me with the advice, which I have outlined to the member on numerous occasions, and I followed it to the letter and I will continue to do that. That will not satisfy the member because for some reason or other the member seems to think that my wife should have to sell off a significant portion of her superannuation fund to meet his political agenda. If the member does not think that the State Solicitor has given the proper advice, then he should go and talk to him. The PRESIDENT : Hon Sally Talbot. Hon Ken Travers : But it’s your responsibility! Hon Norman Moore : I told you what he said! The PRESIDENT : Hon Ken Travers, I have given the call to Hon Sally Talbot. This is question time; it is not a time for a debate.
I discussed the situation with the State Solicitor and I said, “Can you tell me what I need to do in respect of any conflict of interest issues in relation to my ministerial portfolio? These are the circumstances of my wife and I—our joint superannuation fund.” He provided me with the advice, which I have outlined to the member on numerous occasions, and I followed it to the letter and I will continue to do that. That will not satisfy the member because for some reason or other the member seems to think that my wife should have to sell off a significant portion of her superannuation fund to meet his political agenda. If the member does not think that the State Solicitor has given the proper advice, then he should go and talk to him. The PRESIDENT : Hon Sally Talbot. Hon Ken Travers : But it’s your responsibility! Hon Norman Moore : I told you what he said! The PRESIDENT : Hon Ken Travers, I have given the call to Hon Sally Talbot. This is question time; it is not a time for a debate.
The PRESIDENT : Hon Sally Talbot. Hon Ken Travers : But it’s your responsibility! Hon Norman Moore : I told you what he said! The PRESIDENT : Hon Ken Travers, I have given the call to Hon Sally Talbot. This is question time; it is not a time for a debate.
Hon Ken Travers : But it’s your responsibility! Hon Norman Moore : I told you what he said! The PRESIDENT : Hon Ken Travers, I have given the call to Hon Sally Talbot. This is question time; it is not a time for a debate.
Hon Norman Moore : I told you what he said! The PRESIDENT : Hon Ken Travers, I have given the call to Hon Sally Talbot. This is question time; it is not a time for a debate.
The PRESIDENT : Hon Ken Travers, I have given the call to Hon Sally Talbot. This is question time; it is not a time for a debate.
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