Question regarding the release of documents to the AMA and the Minister's refusal to do so, leading to accusations and interjections about hospital management and transparency.

AnsweredQoN 226Legislative Assembly
Asked
11 October 2000
Member
Portfolio
Health

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In view of the Australian Medical Association’s desire and role in the matter of protecting doctors, will the minister reconsider his position to release those documents to the AMA? If not, we will. Mr DAY

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I take that as a threat from the Opposition, and it can take responsibility for its actions. The appropriate processes must be followed. Dr Gallop: What are these appropriate processes - illegally sacking the chief executive officer of the hospital? Is that appropriate? The SPEAKER: Order, members! Mr DAY: I agree that individuals who are the subject of adverse comment should have an appropriate opportunity to respond. If they want to involve the AMA in that process, that may be a matter for them. Mr McGinty: What do you have against the AMA? Mr DAY: I have nothing against the AMA. As I have made very clear - Mr McGinty: The Premier said that it should grow up. Is it immature? Mr DAY: As I have made clear on many occasions as Minister for Health, I will listen to the views of many organisations, including the AMA. Sometimes I agree with the comments it makes; on other occasions I do not. Dr Gallop: You doctor documents! You don’t reveal all of the information. You appoint managers who ride roughshod over hospital procedures. Mr Cowan: Don’t talk nonsense! Dr Gallop: Every one of those things is correct. Mr Cowan: No, they’re not. The SPEAKER: Order, members! What is happening is unacceptable. There are too many interjections. I allow interjections from people who have an interest in the area and others that are pertinent. If the minister stops talking for a long time and then responds to interjections, he will be all over the place. Mr DAY: As I was saying, it is important that the principles of natural justice be followed, and that is exactly what is being done through the establishment of the inquiry into services at King Edward Memorial Hospital. If the Metropolitan Health Service Board considers at some time that it is appropriate for a copy of those documents to be provided to any particular organisation, whether it be the AMA or anybody else, that will occur. It is essential that doctors or any other individual who may be the subject of adverse comment be given adequate opportunity to respond if it is appropriate, and that will occur.
Mr DAY replied: I take that as a threat from the Opposition, and it can take responsibility for its actions. The appropriate processes must be followed. Dr Gallop: What are these appropriate processes - illegally sacking the chief executive officer of the hospital? Is that appropriate? The SPEAKER: Order, members! Mr DAY: I agree that individuals who are the subject of adverse comment should have an appropriate opportunity to respond. If they want to involve the AMA in that process, that may be a matter for them. Mr McGinty: What do you have against the AMA? Mr DAY: I have nothing against the AMA. As I have made very clear - Mr McGinty: The Premier said that it should grow up. Is it immature? Mr DAY: As I have made clear on many occasions as Minister for Health, I will listen to the views of many organisations, including the AMA. Sometimes I agree with the comments it makes; on other occasions I do not. Dr Gallop: You doctor documents! You don’t reveal all of the information. You appoint managers who ride roughshod over hospital procedures. Mr Cowan: Don’t talk nonsense! Dr Gallop: Every one of those things is correct. Mr Cowan: No, they’re not. The SPEAKER: Order, members! What is happening is unacceptable. There are too many interjections. I allow interjections from people who have an interest in the area and others that are pertinent. If the minister stops talking for a long time and then responds to interjections, he will be all over the place. Mr DAY: As I was saying, it is important that the principles of natural justice be followed, and that is exactly what is being done through the establishment of the inquiry into services at King Edward Memorial Hospital. If the Metropolitan Health Service Board considers at some time that it is appropriate for a copy of those documents to be provided to any particular organisation, whether it be the AMA or anybody else, that will occur. It is essential that doctors or any other individual who may be the subject of adverse comment be given adequate opportunity to respond if it is appropriate, and that will occur.
I take that as a threat from the Opposition, and it can take responsibility for its actions. The appropriate processes must be followed. Dr Gallop: What are these appropriate processes - illegally sacking the chief executive officer of the hospital? Is that appropriate? The SPEAKER: Order, members! Mr DAY: I agree that individuals who are the subject of adverse comment should have an appropriate opportunity to respond. If they want to involve the AMA in that process, that may be a matter for them. Mr McGinty: What do you have against the AMA? Mr DAY: I have nothing against the AMA. As I have made very clear - Mr McGinty: The Premier said that it should grow up. Is it immature? Mr DAY: As I have made clear on many occasions as Minister for Health, I will listen to the views of many organisations, including the AMA. Sometimes I agree with the comments it makes; on other occasions I do not. Dr Gallop: You doctor documents! You don’t reveal all of the information. You appoint managers who ride roughshod over hospital procedures. Mr Cowan: Don’t talk nonsense! Dr Gallop: Every one of those things is correct. Mr Cowan: No, they’re not. The SPEAKER: Order, members! What is happening is unacceptable. There are too many interjections. I allow interjections from people who have an interest in the area and others that are pertinent. If the minister stops talking for a long time and then responds to interjections, he will be all over the place. Mr DAY: As I was saying, it is important that the principles of natural justice be followed, and that is exactly what is being done through the establishment of the inquiry into services at King Edward Memorial Hospital. If the Metropolitan Health Service Board considers at some time that it is appropriate for a copy of those documents to be provided to any particular organisation, whether it be the AMA or anybody else, that will occur. It is essential that doctors or any other individual who may be the subject of adverse comment be given adequate opportunity to respond if it is appropriate, and that will occur.
Dr Gallop: What are these appropriate processes - illegally sacking the chief executive officer of the hospital? Is that appropriate? The SPEAKER: Order, members! Mr DAY: I agree that individuals who are the subject of adverse comment should have an appropriate opportunity to respond. If they want to involve the AMA in that process, that may be a matter for them. Mr McGinty: What do you have against the AMA? Mr DAY: I have nothing against the AMA. As I have made very clear - Mr McGinty: The Premier said that it should grow up. Is it immature? Mr DAY: As I have made clear on many occasions as Minister for Health, I will listen to the views of many organisations, including the AMA. Sometimes I agree with the comments it makes; on other occasions I do not. Dr Gallop: You doctor documents! You don’t reveal all of the information. You appoint managers who ride roughshod over hospital procedures. Mr Cowan: Don’t talk nonsense! Dr Gallop: Every one of those things is correct. Mr Cowan: No, they’re not. The SPEAKER: Order, members! What is happening is unacceptable. There are too many interjections. I allow interjections from people who have an interest in the area and others that are pertinent. If the minister stops talking for a long time and then responds to interjections, he will be all over the place. Mr DAY: As I was saying, it is important that the principles of natural justice be followed, and that is exactly what is being done through the establishment of the inquiry into services at King Edward Memorial Hospital. If the Metropolitan Health Service Board considers at some time that it is appropriate for a copy of those documents to be provided to any particular organisation, whether it be the AMA or anybody else, that will occur. It is essential that doctors or any other individual who may be the subject of adverse comment be given adequate opportunity to respond if it is appropriate, and that will occur.
The SPEAKER: Order, members! Mr DAY: I agree that individuals who are the subject of adverse comment should have an appropriate opportunity to respond. If they want to involve the AMA in that process, that may be a matter for them. Mr McGinty: What do you have against the AMA? Mr DAY: I have nothing against the AMA. As I have made very clear - Mr McGinty: The Premier said that it should grow up. Is it immature? Mr DAY: As I have made clear on many occasions as Minister for Health, I will listen to the views of many organisations, including the AMA. Sometimes I agree with the comments it makes; on other occasions I do not. Dr Gallop: You doctor documents! You don’t reveal all of the information. You appoint managers who ride roughshod over hospital procedures. Mr Cowan: Don’t talk nonsense! Dr Gallop: Every one of those things is correct. Mr Cowan: No, they’re not. The SPEAKER: Order, members! What is happening is unacceptable. There are too many interjections. I allow interjections from people who have an interest in the area and others that are pertinent. If the minister stops talking for a long time and then responds to interjections, he will be all over the place. Mr DAY: As I was saying, it is important that the principles of natural justice be followed, and that is exactly what is being done through the establishment of the inquiry into services at King Edward Memorial Hospital. If the Metropolitan Health Service Board considers at some time that it is appropriate for a copy of those documents to be provided to any particular organisation, whether it be the AMA or anybody else, that will occur. It is essential that doctors or any other individual who may be the subject of adverse comment be given adequate opportunity to respond if it is appropriate, and that will occur.
Mr DAY: I agree that individuals who are the subject of adverse comment should have an appropriate opportunity to respond. If they want to involve the AMA in that process, that may be a matter for them. Mr McGinty: What do you have against the AMA? Mr DAY: I have nothing against the AMA. As I have made very clear - Mr McGinty: The Premier said that it should grow up. Is it immature? Mr DAY: As I have made clear on many occasions as Minister for Health, I will listen to the views of many organisations, including the AMA. Sometimes I agree with the comments it makes; on other occasions I do not. Dr Gallop: You doctor documents! You don’t reveal all of the information. You appoint managers who ride roughshod over hospital procedures. Mr Cowan: Don’t talk nonsense! Dr Gallop: Every one of those things is correct. Mr Cowan: No, they’re not. The SPEAKER: Order, members! What is happening is unacceptable. There are too many interjections. I allow interjections from people who have an interest in the area and others that are pertinent. If the minister stops talking for a long time and then responds to interjections, he will be all over the place. Mr DAY: As I was saying, it is important that the principles of natural justice be followed, and that is exactly what is being done through the establishment of the inquiry into services at King Edward Memorial Hospital. If the Metropolitan Health Service Board considers at some time that it is appropriate for a copy of those documents to be provided to any particular organisation, whether it be the AMA or anybody else, that will occur. It is essential that doctors or any other individual who may be the subject of adverse comment be given adequate opportunity to respond if it is appropriate, and that will occur.
Mr McGinty: What do you have against the AMA? Mr DAY: I have nothing against the AMA. As I have made very clear - Mr McGinty: The Premier said that it should grow up. Is it immature? Mr DAY: As I have made clear on many occasions as Minister for Health, I will listen to the views of many organisations, including the AMA. Sometimes I agree with the comments it makes; on other occasions I do not. Dr Gallop: You doctor documents! You don’t reveal all of the information. You appoint managers who ride roughshod over hospital procedures. Mr Cowan: Don’t talk nonsense! Dr Gallop: Every one of those things is correct. Mr Cowan: No, they’re not. The SPEAKER: Order, members! What is happening is unacceptable. There are too many interjections. I allow interjections from people who have an interest in the area and others that are pertinent. If the minister stops talking for a long time and then responds to interjections, he will be all over the place. Mr DAY: As I was saying, it is important that the principles of natural justice be followed, and that is exactly what is being done through the establishment of the inquiry into services at King Edward Memorial Hospital. If the Metropolitan Health Service Board considers at some time that it is appropriate for a copy of those documents to be provided to any particular organisation, whether it be the AMA or anybody else, that will occur. It is essential that doctors or any other individual who may be the subject of adverse comment be given adequate opportunity to respond if it is appropriate, and that will occur.
Mr DAY: I have nothing against the AMA. As I have made very clear - Mr McGinty: The Premier said that it should grow up. Is it immature? Mr DAY: As I have made clear on many occasions as Minister for Health, I will listen to the views of many organisations, including the AMA. Sometimes I agree with the comments it makes; on other occasions I do not. Dr Gallop: You doctor documents! You don’t reveal all of the information. You appoint managers who ride roughshod over hospital procedures. Mr Cowan: Don’t talk nonsense! Dr Gallop: Every one of those things is correct. Mr Cowan: No, they’re not. The SPEAKER: Order, members! What is happening is unacceptable. There are too many interjections. I allow interjections from people who have an interest in the area and others that are pertinent. If the minister stops talking for a long time and then responds to interjections, he will be all over the place. Mr DAY: As I was saying, it is important that the principles of natural justice be followed, and that is exactly what is being done through the establishment of the inquiry into services at King Edward Memorial Hospital. If the Metropolitan Health Service Board considers at some time that it is appropriate for a copy of those documents to be provided to any particular organisation, whether it be the AMA or anybody else, that will occur. It is essential that doctors or any other individual who may be the subject of adverse comment be given adequate opportunity to respond if it is appropriate, and that will occur.
Mr McGinty: The Premier said that it should grow up. Is it immature? Mr DAY: As I have made clear on many occasions as Minister for Health, I will listen to the views of many organisations, including the AMA. Sometimes I agree with the comments it makes; on other occasions I do not. Dr Gallop: You doctor documents! You don’t reveal all of the information. You appoint managers who ride roughshod over hospital procedures. Mr Cowan: Don’t talk nonsense! Dr Gallop: Every one of those things is correct. Mr Cowan: No, they’re not. The SPEAKER: Order, members! What is happening is unacceptable. There are too many interjections. I allow interjections from people who have an interest in the area and others that are pertinent. If the minister stops talking for a long time and then responds to interjections, he will be all over the place. Mr DAY: As I was saying, it is important that the principles of natural justice be followed, and that is exactly what is being done through the establishment of the inquiry into services at King Edward Memorial Hospital. If the Metropolitan Health Service Board considers at some time that it is appropriate for a copy of those documents to be provided to any particular organisation, whether it be the AMA or anybody else, that will occur. It is essential that doctors or any other individual who may be the subject of adverse comment be given adequate opportunity to respond if it is appropriate, and that will occur.
Mr DAY: As I have made clear on many occasions as Minister for Health, I will listen to the views of many organisations, including the AMA. Sometimes I agree with the comments it makes; on other occasions I do not. Dr Gallop: You doctor documents! You don’t reveal all of the information. You appoint managers who ride roughshod over hospital procedures. Mr Cowan: Don’t talk nonsense! Dr Gallop: Every one of those things is correct. Mr Cowan: No, they’re not. The SPEAKER: Order, members! What is happening is unacceptable. There are too many interjections. I allow interjections from people who have an interest in the area and others that are pertinent. If the minister stops talking for a long time and then responds to interjections, he will be all over the place. Mr DAY: As I was saying, it is important that the principles of natural justice be followed, and that is exactly what is being done through the establishment of the inquiry into services at King Edward Memorial Hospital. If the Metropolitan Health Service Board considers at some time that it is appropriate for a copy of those documents to be provided to any particular organisation, whether it be the AMA or anybody else, that will occur. It is essential that doctors or any other individual who may be the subject of adverse comment be given adequate opportunity to respond if it is appropriate, and that will occur.
Dr Gallop: You doctor documents! You don’t reveal all of the information. You appoint managers who ride roughshod over hospital procedures. Mr Cowan: Don’t talk nonsense! Dr Gallop: Every one of those things is correct. Mr Cowan: No, they’re not. The SPEAKER: Order, members! What is happening is unacceptable. There are too many interjections. I allow interjections from people who have an interest in the area and others that are pertinent. If the minister stops talking for a long time and then responds to interjections, he will be all over the place. Mr DAY: As I was saying, it is important that the principles of natural justice be followed, and that is exactly what is being done through the establishment of the inquiry into services at King Edward Memorial Hospital. If the Metropolitan Health Service Board considers at some time that it is appropriate for a copy of those documents to be provided to any particular organisation, whether it be the AMA or anybody else, that will occur. It is essential that doctors or any other individual who may be the subject of adverse comment be given adequate opportunity to respond if it is appropriate, and that will occur.
Mr Cowan: Don’t talk nonsense! Dr Gallop: Every one of those things is correct. Mr Cowan: No, they’re not. The SPEAKER: Order, members! What is happening is unacceptable. There are too many interjections. I allow interjections from people who have an interest in the area and others that are pertinent. If the minister stops talking for a long time and then responds to interjections, he will be all over the place. Mr DAY: As I was saying, it is important that the principles of natural justice be followed, and that is exactly what is being done through the establishment of the inquiry into services at King Edward Memorial Hospital. If the Metropolitan Health Service Board considers at some time that it is appropriate for a copy of those documents to be provided to any particular organisation, whether it be the AMA or anybody else, that will occur. It is essential that doctors or any other individual who may be the subject of adverse comment be given adequate opportunity to respond if it is appropriate, and that will occur.
Dr Gallop: Every one of those things is correct. Mr Cowan: No, they’re not. The SPEAKER: Order, members! What is happening is unacceptable. There are too many interjections. I allow interjections from people who have an interest in the area and others that are pertinent. If the minister stops talking for a long time and then responds to interjections, he will be all over the place. Mr DAY: As I was saying, it is important that the principles of natural justice be followed, and that is exactly what is being done through the establishment of the inquiry into services at King Edward Memorial Hospital. If the Metropolitan Health Service Board considers at some time that it is appropriate for a copy of those documents to be provided to any particular organisation, whether it be the AMA or anybody else, that will occur. It is essential that doctors or any other individual who may be the subject of adverse comment be given adequate opportunity to respond if it is appropriate, and that will occur.
Mr Cowan: No, they’re not. The SPEAKER: Order, members! What is happening is unacceptable. There are too many interjections. I allow interjections from people who have an interest in the area and others that are pertinent. If the minister stops talking for a long time and then responds to interjections, he will be all over the place. Mr DAY: As I was saying, it is important that the principles of natural justice be followed, and that is exactly what is being done through the establishment of the inquiry into services at King Edward Memorial Hospital. If the Metropolitan Health Service Board considers at some time that it is appropriate for a copy of those documents to be provided to any particular organisation, whether it be the AMA or anybody else, that will occur. It is essential that doctors or any other individual who may be the subject of adverse comment be given adequate opportunity to respond if it is appropriate, and that will occur.
The SPEAKER: Order, members! What is happening is unacceptable. There are too many interjections. I allow interjections from people who have an interest in the area and others that are pertinent. If the minister stops talking for a long time and then responds to interjections, he will be all over the place. Mr DAY: As I was saying, it is important that the principles of natural justice be followed, and that is exactly what is being done through the establishment of the inquiry into services at King Edward Memorial Hospital. If the Metropolitan Health Service Board considers at some time that it is appropriate for a copy of those documents to be provided to any particular organisation, whether it be the AMA or anybody else, that will occur. It is essential that doctors or any other individual who may be the subject of adverse comment be given adequate opportunity to respond if it is appropriate, and that will occur.
Mr DAY: As I was saying, it is important that the principles of natural justice be followed, and that is exactly what is being done through the establishment of the inquiry into services at King Edward Memorial Hospital. If the Metropolitan Health Service Board considers at some time that it is appropriate for a copy of those documents to be provided to any particular organisation, whether it be the AMA or anybody else, that will occur. It is essential that doctors or any other individual who may be the subject of adverse comment be given adequate opportunity to respond if it is appropriate, and that will occur.

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