❓ The WA parliamentary question concerns support for the state government's domestic gas reservation policy to secure the state's energy future, highlighting both support from various WA entities and opposition from the federal government.
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DOMESTIC GAS RESERVATION POLICY
Will the minister indicate what support there has been for the state government’s position to reserve gas supplies for domestic use to secure the state’s energy future? Mr F.M. LOGAN
Will the minister indicate what support there has been for the state government’s position to reserve gas supplies for domestic use to secure the state’s energy future? Mr F.M. LOGAN
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I thank the member for Southern River for his question. Members are aware that the Premier has spoken at length both to the media and in this house on this issue. I support the Premier and reiterate some of the domestic gas issues facing Western Australia. Because of domestic gas supply commitments, reserves will run out in 10 to 15 years. I heard the Leader of the Opposition interject on the Premier on Tuesday and ask the Premier what he meant and whether it would be 10 or 15 years and say that the Premier should make his mind up. Mr P.D. Omodei : I did not say that. Mr F.M. LOGAN : That is what the Leader of the Opposition said. Mr P.D. Omodei : I asked if it was 10 or 15 years, because his answer was all over the place. The SPEAKER : Order, Leader of the Opposition! Mr F.M. LOGAN : The answer is simple. It depends on how fast the reserves are used. The Carpenter government has a responsibility to ensure that it protects natural gas supplies to this state. We all have a responsibility to ensure that we do that. Mr C.J. Barnett : The amount we have used is minute compared with what is in the reserves. If you do not look at the right dimensions, you will not get the answer. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Cottesloe likes to answer questions, but it is not his turn to answer questions. I call him and the member for Vasse to order. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I will get to the member for Cottesloe in a minute. We have a duty to ensure that a varied energy supply is available to the state and that gas plays a critical role in that energy supply. The vast majority of Western Australians support the position of the Premier and the government on this issue. Even the state opposition supports the government. The Leader of the Opposition, Paul Omodei, told The West Australian on 22 July that the opposition agrees with the government that the gas belongs to the state and that there should be reservation to provide for domestic consumption. A former Leader of the Opposition Colin Barnett, the member for Cottesloe, told The West Australian the same thing three days later, and said that the state would be foolish not to plan for the future by keeping some of its gas reserves for domestic use. Another former leader of the Liberals, the member for Kalgoorlie, Matt Birney said that we must have laws in place to quarantine a proportion of domestic gas, otherwise the whole lot would be sold overseas. That was a very good comment; he supported disaggregation and now supports the state government on the supply of gas. He is a very good member of Parliament. A Sunday Times editorial said that Mr Carpenter is correct in trying to provide safeguards to protect WA households. The Western Australian Council of Social Service chief executive officer, Lisa Baker, said that there is a case for government intervention when a credible risk of a shortage of domestic supply exists. They are indications from some of the people who support the state government’s case for securing the supply of domestic gas. Many other organisations also support the government’s stance, some of which are the Motor Trade Association of Western Australia, Alinta, Synergy, NewGen Power, Verve, Alcoa, Perth Energy, Burns and Roe Worley and Energy Developments. However, some people in Australia do not support the Premier. Guess who? The Howard government does not support his position. Who are those people in the Howard government? Ian McFarlane, the Minister for Energy and Trade, believes our gas should be sold overseas and that no gas should be quarantined for Western Australia. The worst of all the people who do not support the Premier is Don Randall, the federal member for Canning. I do not know what Don Randall is an expert on, but domestic gas is clearly not it. I was staggered to hear what he said a couple of weeks ago about our position on the supply of domestic gas. He said that the Premier’s view on securing domestic gas for Western Australia was “not in the national interest” and that the plan was “provincial in Mr Carpenter’s mentality for WA”. That is from a member whose electorate contains a huge bauxite refinery, which is a massive consumer of domestic gas. Gas turbines are an inherent part of the refinery. That refinery in Don Randall’s electorate is sucking up vast amounts of gas, and it supports this government’s argument for the supply of domestic gas. What did he do? He spoke out against it. His own constituents do not agree with him. He should go back and talk to his constituents, think about what he is saying and support our Premier and our government.
Mr F.M. LOGAN replied: I thank the member for Southern River for his question. Members are aware that the Premier has spoken at length both to the media and in this house on this issue. I support the Premier and reiterate some of the domestic gas issues facing Western Australia. Because of domestic gas supply commitments, reserves will run out in 10 to 15 years. I heard the Leader of the Opposition interject on the Premier on Tuesday and ask the Premier what he meant and whether it would be 10 or 15 years and say that the Premier should make his mind up. Mr P.D. Omodei : I did not say that. Mr F.M. LOGAN : That is what the Leader of the Opposition said. Mr P.D. Omodei : I asked if it was 10 or 15 years, because his answer was all over the place. The SPEAKER : Order, Leader of the Opposition! Mr F.M. LOGAN : The answer is simple. It depends on how fast the reserves are used. The Carpenter government has a responsibility to ensure that it protects natural gas supplies to this state. We all have a responsibility to ensure that we do that. Mr C.J. Barnett : The amount we have used is minute compared with what is in the reserves. If you do not look at the right dimensions, you will not get the answer. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Cottesloe likes to answer questions, but it is not his turn to answer questions. I call him and the member for Vasse to order. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I will get to the member for Cottesloe in a minute. We have a duty to ensure that a varied energy supply is available to the state and that gas plays a critical role in that energy supply. The vast majority of Western Australians support the position of the Premier and the government on this issue. Even the state opposition supports the government. The Leader of the Opposition, Paul Omodei, told The West Australian on 22 July that the opposition agrees with the government that the gas belongs to the state and that there should be reservation to provide for domestic consumption. A former Leader of the Opposition Colin Barnett, the member for Cottesloe, told The West Australian the same thing three days later, and said that the state would be foolish not to plan for the future by keeping some of its gas reserves for domestic use. Another former leader of the Liberals, the member for Kalgoorlie, Matt Birney said that we must have laws in place to quarantine a proportion of domestic gas, otherwise the whole lot would be sold overseas. That was a very good comment; he supported disaggregation and now supports the state government on the supply of gas. He is a very good member of Parliament. A Sunday Times editorial said that Mr Carpenter is correct in trying to provide safeguards to protect WA households. The Western Australian Council of Social Service chief executive officer, Lisa Baker, said that there is a case for government intervention when a credible risk of a shortage of domestic supply exists. They are indications from some of the people who support the state government’s case for securing the supply of domestic gas. Many other organisations also support the government’s stance, some of which are the Motor Trade Association of Western Australia, Alinta, Synergy, NewGen Power, Verve, Alcoa, Perth Energy, Burns and Roe Worley and Energy Developments. However, some people in Australia do not support the Premier. Guess who? The Howard government does not support his position. Who are those people in the Howard government? Ian McFarlane, the Minister for Energy and Trade, believes our gas should be sold overseas and that no gas should be quarantined for Western Australia. The worst of all the people who do not support the Premier is Don Randall, the federal member for Canning. I do not know what Don Randall is an expert on, but domestic gas is clearly not it. I was staggered to hear what he said a couple of weeks ago about our position on the supply of domestic gas. He said that the Premier’s view on securing domestic gas for Western Australia was “not in the national interest” and that the plan was “provincial in Mr Carpenter’s mentality for WA”. That is from a member whose electorate contains a huge bauxite refinery, which is a massive consumer of domestic gas. Gas turbines are an inherent part of the refinery. That refinery in Don Randall’s electorate is sucking up vast amounts of gas, and it supports this government’s argument for the supply of domestic gas. What did he do? He spoke out against it. His own constituents do not agree with him. He should go back and talk to his constituents, think about what he is saying and support our Premier and our government.
I thank the member for Southern River for his question. Members are aware that the Premier has spoken at length both to the media and in this house on this issue. I support the Premier and reiterate some of the domestic gas issues facing Western Australia. Because of domestic gas supply commitments, reserves will run out in 10 to 15 years. I heard the Leader of the Opposition interject on the Premier on Tuesday and ask the Premier what he meant and whether it would be 10 or 15 years and say that the Premier should make his mind up. Mr P.D. Omodei : I did not say that. Mr F.M. LOGAN : That is what the Leader of the Opposition said. Mr P.D. Omodei : I asked if it was 10 or 15 years, because his answer was all over the place. The SPEAKER : Order, Leader of the Opposition! Mr F.M. LOGAN : The answer is simple. It depends on how fast the reserves are used. The Carpenter government has a responsibility to ensure that it protects natural gas supplies to this state. We all have a responsibility to ensure that we do that. Mr C.J. Barnett : The amount we have used is minute compared with what is in the reserves. If you do not look at the right dimensions, you will not get the answer. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Cottesloe likes to answer questions, but it is not his turn to answer questions. I call him and the member for Vasse to order. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I will get to the member for Cottesloe in a minute. We have a duty to ensure that a varied energy supply is available to the state and that gas plays a critical role in that energy supply. The vast majority of Western Australians support the position of the Premier and the government on this issue. Even the state opposition supports the government. The Leader of the Opposition, Paul Omodei, told The West Australian on 22 July that the opposition agrees with the government that the gas belongs to the state and that there should be reservation to provide for domestic consumption. A former Leader of the Opposition Colin Barnett, the member for Cottesloe, told The West Australian the same thing three days later, and said that the state would be foolish not to plan for the future by keeping some of its gas reserves for domestic use. Another former leader of the Liberals, the member for Kalgoorlie, Matt Birney said that we must have laws in place to quarantine a proportion of domestic gas, otherwise the whole lot would be sold overseas. That was a very good comment; he supported disaggregation and now supports the state government on the supply of gas. He is a very good member of Parliament. A Sunday Times editorial said that Mr Carpenter is correct in trying to provide safeguards to protect WA households. The Western Australian Council of Social Service chief executive officer, Lisa Baker, said that there is a case for government intervention when a credible risk of a shortage of domestic supply exists. They are indications from some of the people who support the state government’s case for securing the supply of domestic gas. Many other organisations also support the government’s stance, some of which are the Motor Trade Association of Western Australia, Alinta, Synergy, NewGen Power, Verve, Alcoa, Perth Energy, Burns and Roe Worley and Energy Developments. However, some people in Australia do not support the Premier. Guess who? The Howard government does not support his position. Who are those people in the Howard government? Ian McFarlane, the Minister for Energy and Trade, believes our gas should be sold overseas and that no gas should be quarantined for Western Australia. The worst of all the people who do not support the Premier is Don Randall, the federal member for Canning. I do not know what Don Randall is an expert on, but domestic gas is clearly not it. I was staggered to hear what he said a couple of weeks ago about our position on the supply of domestic gas. He said that the Premier’s view on securing domestic gas for Western Australia was “not in the national interest” and that the plan was “provincial in Mr Carpenter’s mentality for WA”. That is from a member whose electorate contains a huge bauxite refinery, which is a massive consumer of domestic gas. Gas turbines are an inherent part of the refinery. That refinery in Don Randall’s electorate is sucking up vast amounts of gas, and it supports this government’s argument for the supply of domestic gas. What did he do? He spoke out against it. His own constituents do not agree with him. He should go back and talk to his constituents, think about what he is saying and support our Premier and our government.
Mr P.D. Omodei : I did not say that. Mr F.M. LOGAN : That is what the Leader of the Opposition said. Mr P.D. Omodei : I asked if it was 10 or 15 years, because his answer was all over the place. The SPEAKER : Order, Leader of the Opposition! Mr F.M. LOGAN : The answer is simple. It depends on how fast the reserves are used. The Carpenter government has a responsibility to ensure that it protects natural gas supplies to this state. We all have a responsibility to ensure that we do that. Mr C.J. Barnett : The amount we have used is minute compared with what is in the reserves. If you do not look at the right dimensions, you will not get the answer. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Cottesloe likes to answer questions, but it is not his turn to answer questions. I call him and the member for Vasse to order. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I will get to the member for Cottesloe in a minute. We have a duty to ensure that a varied energy supply is available to the state and that gas plays a critical role in that energy supply. The vast majority of Western Australians support the position of the Premier and the government on this issue. Even the state opposition supports the government. The Leader of the Opposition, Paul Omodei, told The West Australian on 22 July that the opposition agrees with the government that the gas belongs to the state and that there should be reservation to provide for domestic consumption. A former Leader of the Opposition Colin Barnett, the member for Cottesloe, told The West Australian the same thing three days later, and said that the state would be foolish not to plan for the future by keeping some of its gas reserves for domestic use. Another former leader of the Liberals, the member for Kalgoorlie, Matt Birney said that we must have laws in place to quarantine a proportion of domestic gas, otherwise the whole lot would be sold overseas. That was a very good comment; he supported disaggregation and now supports the state government on the supply of gas. He is a very good member of Parliament. A Sunday Times editorial said that Mr Carpenter is correct in trying to provide safeguards to protect WA households. The Western Australian Council of Social Service chief executive officer, Lisa Baker, said that there is a case for government intervention when a credible risk of a shortage of domestic supply exists. They are indications from some of the people who support the state government’s case for securing the supply of domestic gas. Many other organisations also support the government’s stance, some of which are the Motor Trade Association of Western Australia, Alinta, Synergy, NewGen Power, Verve, Alcoa, Perth Energy, Burns and Roe Worley and Energy Developments. However, some people in Australia do not support the Premier. Guess who? The Howard government does not support his position. Who are those people in the Howard government? Ian McFarlane, the Minister for Energy and Trade, believes our gas should be sold overseas and that no gas should be quarantined for Western Australia. The worst of all the people who do not support the Premier is Don Randall, the federal member for Canning. I do not know what Don Randall is an expert on, but domestic gas is clearly not it. I was staggered to hear what he said a couple of weeks ago about our position on the supply of domestic gas. He said that the Premier’s view on securing domestic gas for Western Australia was “not in the national interest” and that the plan was “provincial in Mr Carpenter’s mentality for WA”. That is from a member whose electorate contains a huge bauxite refinery, which is a massive consumer of domestic gas. Gas turbines are an inherent part of the refinery. That refinery in Don Randall’s electorate is sucking up vast amounts of gas, and it supports this government’s argument for the supply of domestic gas. What did he do? He spoke out against it. His own constituents do not agree with him. He should go back and talk to his constituents, think about what he is saying and support our Premier and our government.
Mr F.M. LOGAN : That is what the Leader of the Opposition said. Mr P.D. Omodei : I asked if it was 10 or 15 years, because his answer was all over the place. The SPEAKER : Order, Leader of the Opposition! Mr F.M. LOGAN : The answer is simple. It depends on how fast the reserves are used. The Carpenter government has a responsibility to ensure that it protects natural gas supplies to this state. We all have a responsibility to ensure that we do that. Mr C.J. Barnett : The amount we have used is minute compared with what is in the reserves. If you do not look at the right dimensions, you will not get the answer. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Cottesloe likes to answer questions, but it is not his turn to answer questions. I call him and the member for Vasse to order. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I will get to the member for Cottesloe in a minute. We have a duty to ensure that a varied energy supply is available to the state and that gas plays a critical role in that energy supply. The vast majority of Western Australians support the position of the Premier and the government on this issue. Even the state opposition supports the government. The Leader of the Opposition, Paul Omodei, told The West Australian on 22 July that the opposition agrees with the government that the gas belongs to the state and that there should be reservation to provide for domestic consumption. A former Leader of the Opposition Colin Barnett, the member for Cottesloe, told The West Australian the same thing three days later, and said that the state would be foolish not to plan for the future by keeping some of its gas reserves for domestic use. Another former leader of the Liberals, the member for Kalgoorlie, Matt Birney said that we must have laws in place to quarantine a proportion of domestic gas, otherwise the whole lot would be sold overseas. That was a very good comment; he supported disaggregation and now supports the state government on the supply of gas. He is a very good member of Parliament. A Sunday Times editorial said that Mr Carpenter is correct in trying to provide safeguards to protect WA households. The Western Australian Council of Social Service chief executive officer, Lisa Baker, said that there is a case for government intervention when a credible risk of a shortage of domestic supply exists. They are indications from some of the people who support the state government’s case for securing the supply of domestic gas. Many other organisations also support the government’s stance, some of which are the Motor Trade Association of Western Australia, Alinta, Synergy, NewGen Power, Verve, Alcoa, Perth Energy, Burns and Roe Worley and Energy Developments. However, some people in Australia do not support the Premier. Guess who? The Howard government does not support his position. Who are those people in the Howard government? Ian McFarlane, the Minister for Energy and Trade, believes our gas should be sold overseas and that no gas should be quarantined for Western Australia. The worst of all the people who do not support the Premier is Don Randall, the federal member for Canning. I do not know what Don Randall is an expert on, but domestic gas is clearly not it. I was staggered to hear what he said a couple of weeks ago about our position on the supply of domestic gas. He said that the Premier’s view on securing domestic gas for Western Australia was “not in the national interest” and that the plan was “provincial in Mr Carpenter’s mentality for WA”. That is from a member whose electorate contains a huge bauxite refinery, which is a massive consumer of domestic gas. Gas turbines are an inherent part of the refinery. That refinery in Don Randall’s electorate is sucking up vast amounts of gas, and it supports this government’s argument for the supply of domestic gas. What did he do? He spoke out against it. His own constituents do not agree with him. He should go back and talk to his constituents, think about what he is saying and support our Premier and our government.
Mr P.D. Omodei : I asked if it was 10 or 15 years, because his answer was all over the place. The SPEAKER : Order, Leader of the Opposition! Mr F.M. LOGAN : The answer is simple. It depends on how fast the reserves are used. The Carpenter government has a responsibility to ensure that it protects natural gas supplies to this state. We all have a responsibility to ensure that we do that. Mr C.J. Barnett : The amount we have used is minute compared with what is in the reserves. If you do not look at the right dimensions, you will not get the answer. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Cottesloe likes to answer questions, but it is not his turn to answer questions. I call him and the member for Vasse to order. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I will get to the member for Cottesloe in a minute. We have a duty to ensure that a varied energy supply is available to the state and that gas plays a critical role in that energy supply. The vast majority of Western Australians support the position of the Premier and the government on this issue. Even the state opposition supports the government. The Leader of the Opposition, Paul Omodei, told The West Australian on 22 July that the opposition agrees with the government that the gas belongs to the state and that there should be reservation to provide for domestic consumption. A former Leader of the Opposition Colin Barnett, the member for Cottesloe, told The West Australian the same thing three days later, and said that the state would be foolish not to plan for the future by keeping some of its gas reserves for domestic use. Another former leader of the Liberals, the member for Kalgoorlie, Matt Birney said that we must have laws in place to quarantine a proportion of domestic gas, otherwise the whole lot would be sold overseas. That was a very good comment; he supported disaggregation and now supports the state government on the supply of gas. He is a very good member of Parliament. A Sunday Times editorial said that Mr Carpenter is correct in trying to provide safeguards to protect WA households. The Western Australian Council of Social Service chief executive officer, Lisa Baker, said that there is a case for government intervention when a credible risk of a shortage of domestic supply exists. They are indications from some of the people who support the state government’s case for securing the supply of domestic gas. Many other organisations also support the government’s stance, some of which are the Motor Trade Association of Western Australia, Alinta, Synergy, NewGen Power, Verve, Alcoa, Perth Energy, Burns and Roe Worley and Energy Developments. However, some people in Australia do not support the Premier. Guess who? The Howard government does not support his position. Who are those people in the Howard government? Ian McFarlane, the Minister for Energy and Trade, believes our gas should be sold overseas and that no gas should be quarantined for Western Australia. The worst of all the people who do not support the Premier is Don Randall, the federal member for Canning. I do not know what Don Randall is an expert on, but domestic gas is clearly not it. I was staggered to hear what he said a couple of weeks ago about our position on the supply of domestic gas. He said that the Premier’s view on securing domestic gas for Western Australia was “not in the national interest” and that the plan was “provincial in Mr Carpenter’s mentality for WA”. That is from a member whose electorate contains a huge bauxite refinery, which is a massive consumer of domestic gas. Gas turbines are an inherent part of the refinery. That refinery in Don Randall’s electorate is sucking up vast amounts of gas, and it supports this government’s argument for the supply of domestic gas. What did he do? He spoke out against it. His own constituents do not agree with him. He should go back and talk to his constituents, think about what he is saying and support our Premier and our government.
The SPEAKER : Order, Leader of the Opposition! Mr F.M. LOGAN : The answer is simple. It depends on how fast the reserves are used. The Carpenter government has a responsibility to ensure that it protects natural gas supplies to this state. We all have a responsibility to ensure that we do that. Mr C.J. Barnett : The amount we have used is minute compared with what is in the reserves. If you do not look at the right dimensions, you will not get the answer. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Cottesloe likes to answer questions, but it is not his turn to answer questions. I call him and the member for Vasse to order. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I will get to the member for Cottesloe in a minute. We have a duty to ensure that a varied energy supply is available to the state and that gas plays a critical role in that energy supply. The vast majority of Western Australians support the position of the Premier and the government on this issue. Even the state opposition supports the government. The Leader of the Opposition, Paul Omodei, told The West Australian on 22 July that the opposition agrees with the government that the gas belongs to the state and that there should be reservation to provide for domestic consumption. A former Leader of the Opposition Colin Barnett, the member for Cottesloe, told The West Australian the same thing three days later, and said that the state would be foolish not to plan for the future by keeping some of its gas reserves for domestic use. Another former leader of the Liberals, the member for Kalgoorlie, Matt Birney said that we must have laws in place to quarantine a proportion of domestic gas, otherwise the whole lot would be sold overseas. That was a very good comment; he supported disaggregation and now supports the state government on the supply of gas. He is a very good member of Parliament. A Sunday Times editorial said that Mr Carpenter is correct in trying to provide safeguards to protect WA households. The Western Australian Council of Social Service chief executive officer, Lisa Baker, said that there is a case for government intervention when a credible risk of a shortage of domestic supply exists. They are indications from some of the people who support the state government’s case for securing the supply of domestic gas. Many other organisations also support the government’s stance, some of which are the Motor Trade Association of Western Australia, Alinta, Synergy, NewGen Power, Verve, Alcoa, Perth Energy, Burns and Roe Worley and Energy Developments. However, some people in Australia do not support the Premier. Guess who? The Howard government does not support his position. Who are those people in the Howard government? Ian McFarlane, the Minister for Energy and Trade, believes our gas should be sold overseas and that no gas should be quarantined for Western Australia. The worst of all the people who do not support the Premier is Don Randall, the federal member for Canning. I do not know what Don Randall is an expert on, but domestic gas is clearly not it. I was staggered to hear what he said a couple of weeks ago about our position on the supply of domestic gas. He said that the Premier’s view on securing domestic gas for Western Australia was “not in the national interest” and that the plan was “provincial in Mr Carpenter’s mentality for WA”. That is from a member whose electorate contains a huge bauxite refinery, which is a massive consumer of domestic gas. Gas turbines are an inherent part of the refinery. That refinery in Don Randall’s electorate is sucking up vast amounts of gas, and it supports this government’s argument for the supply of domestic gas. What did he do? He spoke out against it. His own constituents do not agree with him. He should go back and talk to his constituents, think about what he is saying and support our Premier and our government.
Mr F.M. LOGAN : The answer is simple. It depends on how fast the reserves are used. The Carpenter government has a responsibility to ensure that it protects natural gas supplies to this state. We all have a responsibility to ensure that we do that. Mr C.J. Barnett : The amount we have used is minute compared with what is in the reserves. If you do not look at the right dimensions, you will not get the answer. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Cottesloe likes to answer questions, but it is not his turn to answer questions. I call him and the member for Vasse to order. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I will get to the member for Cottesloe in a minute. We have a duty to ensure that a varied energy supply is available to the state and that gas plays a critical role in that energy supply. The vast majority of Western Australians support the position of the Premier and the government on this issue. Even the state opposition supports the government. The Leader of the Opposition, Paul Omodei, told The West Australian on 22 July that the opposition agrees with the government that the gas belongs to the state and that there should be reservation to provide for domestic consumption. A former Leader of the Opposition Colin Barnett, the member for Cottesloe, told The West Australian the same thing three days later, and said that the state would be foolish not to plan for the future by keeping some of its gas reserves for domestic use. Another former leader of the Liberals, the member for Kalgoorlie, Matt Birney said that we must have laws in place to quarantine a proportion of domestic gas, otherwise the whole lot would be sold overseas. That was a very good comment; he supported disaggregation and now supports the state government on the supply of gas. He is a very good member of Parliament. A Sunday Times editorial said that Mr Carpenter is correct in trying to provide safeguards to protect WA households. The Western Australian Council of Social Service chief executive officer, Lisa Baker, said that there is a case for government intervention when a credible risk of a shortage of domestic supply exists. They are indications from some of the people who support the state government’s case for securing the supply of domestic gas. Many other organisations also support the government’s stance, some of which are the Motor Trade Association of Western Australia, Alinta, Synergy, NewGen Power, Verve, Alcoa, Perth Energy, Burns and Roe Worley and Energy Developments. However, some people in Australia do not support the Premier. Guess who? The Howard government does not support his position. Who are those people in the Howard government? Ian McFarlane, the Minister for Energy and Trade, believes our gas should be sold overseas and that no gas should be quarantined for Western Australia. The worst of all the people who do not support the Premier is Don Randall, the federal member for Canning. I do not know what Don Randall is an expert on, but domestic gas is clearly not it. I was staggered to hear what he said a couple of weeks ago about our position on the supply of domestic gas. He said that the Premier’s view on securing domestic gas for Western Australia was “not in the national interest” and that the plan was “provincial in Mr Carpenter’s mentality for WA”. That is from a member whose electorate contains a huge bauxite refinery, which is a massive consumer of domestic gas. Gas turbines are an inherent part of the refinery. That refinery in Don Randall’s electorate is sucking up vast amounts of gas, and it supports this government’s argument for the supply of domestic gas. What did he do? He spoke out against it. His own constituents do not agree with him. He should go back and talk to his constituents, think about what he is saying and support our Premier and our government.
Mr C.J. Barnett : The amount we have used is minute compared with what is in the reserves. If you do not look at the right dimensions, you will not get the answer. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Cottesloe likes to answer questions, but it is not his turn to answer questions. I call him and the member for Vasse to order. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I will get to the member for Cottesloe in a minute. We have a duty to ensure that a varied energy supply is available to the state and that gas plays a critical role in that energy supply. The vast majority of Western Australians support the position of the Premier and the government on this issue. Even the state opposition supports the government. The Leader of the Opposition, Paul Omodei, told The West Australian on 22 July that the opposition agrees with the government that the gas belongs to the state and that there should be reservation to provide for domestic consumption. A former Leader of the Opposition Colin Barnett, the member for Cottesloe, told The West Australian the same thing three days later, and said that the state would be foolish not to plan for the future by keeping some of its gas reserves for domestic use. Another former leader of the Liberals, the member for Kalgoorlie, Matt Birney said that we must have laws in place to quarantine a proportion of domestic gas, otherwise the whole lot would be sold overseas. That was a very good comment; he supported disaggregation and now supports the state government on the supply of gas. He is a very good member of Parliament. A Sunday Times editorial said that Mr Carpenter is correct in trying to provide safeguards to protect WA households. The Western Australian Council of Social Service chief executive officer, Lisa Baker, said that there is a case for government intervention when a credible risk of a shortage of domestic supply exists. They are indications from some of the people who support the state government’s case for securing the supply of domestic gas. Many other organisations also support the government’s stance, some of which are the Motor Trade Association of Western Australia, Alinta, Synergy, NewGen Power, Verve, Alcoa, Perth Energy, Burns and Roe Worley and Energy Developments. However, some people in Australia do not support the Premier. Guess who? The Howard government does not support his position. Who are those people in the Howard government? Ian McFarlane, the Minister for Energy and Trade, believes our gas should be sold overseas and that no gas should be quarantined for Western Australia. The worst of all the people who do not support the Premier is Don Randall, the federal member for Canning. I do not know what Don Randall is an expert on, but domestic gas is clearly not it. I was staggered to hear what he said a couple of weeks ago about our position on the supply of domestic gas. He said that the Premier’s view on securing domestic gas for Western Australia was “not in the national interest” and that the plan was “provincial in Mr Carpenter’s mentality for WA”. That is from a member whose electorate contains a huge bauxite refinery, which is a massive consumer of domestic gas. Gas turbines are an inherent part of the refinery. That refinery in Don Randall’s electorate is sucking up vast amounts of gas, and it supports this government’s argument for the supply of domestic gas. What did he do? He spoke out against it. His own constituents do not agree with him. He should go back and talk to his constituents, think about what he is saying and support our Premier and our government.
The SPEAKER : I know the member for Cottesloe likes to answer questions, but it is not his turn to answer questions. I call him and the member for Vasse to order. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I will get to the member for Cottesloe in a minute. We have a duty to ensure that a varied energy supply is available to the state and that gas plays a critical role in that energy supply. The vast majority of Western Australians support the position of the Premier and the government on this issue. Even the state opposition supports the government. The Leader of the Opposition, Paul Omodei, told The West Australian on 22 July that the opposition agrees with the government that the gas belongs to the state and that there should be reservation to provide for domestic consumption. A former Leader of the Opposition Colin Barnett, the member for Cottesloe, told The West Australian the same thing three days later, and said that the state would be foolish not to plan for the future by keeping some of its gas reserves for domestic use. Another former leader of the Liberals, the member for Kalgoorlie, Matt Birney said that we must have laws in place to quarantine a proportion of domestic gas, otherwise the whole lot would be sold overseas. That was a very good comment; he supported disaggregation and now supports the state government on the supply of gas. He is a very good member of Parliament. A Sunday Times editorial said that Mr Carpenter is correct in trying to provide safeguards to protect WA households. The Western Australian Council of Social Service chief executive officer, Lisa Baker, said that there is a case for government intervention when a credible risk of a shortage of domestic supply exists. They are indications from some of the people who support the state government’s case for securing the supply of domestic gas. Many other organisations also support the government’s stance, some of which are the Motor Trade Association of Western Australia, Alinta, Synergy, NewGen Power, Verve, Alcoa, Perth Energy, Burns and Roe Worley and Energy Developments. However, some people in Australia do not support the Premier. Guess who? The Howard government does not support his position. Who are those people in the Howard government? Ian McFarlane, the Minister for Energy and Trade, believes our gas should be sold overseas and that no gas should be quarantined for Western Australia. The worst of all the people who do not support the Premier is Don Randall, the federal member for Canning. I do not know what Don Randall is an expert on, but domestic gas is clearly not it. I was staggered to hear what he said a couple of weeks ago about our position on the supply of domestic gas. He said that the Premier’s view on securing domestic gas for Western Australia was “not in the national interest” and that the plan was “provincial in Mr Carpenter’s mentality for WA”. That is from a member whose electorate contains a huge bauxite refinery, which is a massive consumer of domestic gas. Gas turbines are an inherent part of the refinery. That refinery in Don Randall’s electorate is sucking up vast amounts of gas, and it supports this government’s argument for the supply of domestic gas. What did he do? He spoke out against it. His own constituents do not agree with him. He should go back and talk to his constituents, think about what he is saying and support our Premier and our government.
Mr F.M. LOGAN : I will get to the member for Cottesloe in a minute. We have a duty to ensure that a varied energy supply is available to the state and that gas plays a critical role in that energy supply. The vast majority of Western Australians support the position of the Premier and the government on this issue. Even the state opposition supports the government. The Leader of the Opposition, Paul Omodei, told The West Australian on 22 July that the opposition agrees with the government that the gas belongs to the state and that there should be reservation to provide for domestic consumption. A former Leader of the Opposition Colin Barnett, the member for Cottesloe, told The West Australian the same thing three days later, and said that the state would be foolish not to plan for the future by keeping some of its gas reserves for domestic use. Another former leader of the Liberals, the member for Kalgoorlie, Matt Birney said that we must have laws in place to quarantine a proportion of domestic gas, otherwise the whole lot would be sold overseas. That was a very good comment; he supported disaggregation and now supports the state government on the supply of gas. He is a very good member of Parliament. A Sunday Times editorial said that Mr Carpenter is correct in trying to provide safeguards to protect WA households. The Western Australian Council of Social Service chief executive officer, Lisa Baker, said that there is a case for government intervention when a credible risk of a shortage of domestic supply exists. They are indications from some of the people who support the state government’s case for securing the supply of domestic gas. Many other organisations also support the government’s stance, some of which are the Motor Trade Association of Western Australia, Alinta, Synergy, NewGen Power, Verve, Alcoa, Perth Energy, Burns and Roe Worley and Energy Developments. However, some people in Australia do not support the Premier. Guess who? The Howard government does not support his position. Who are those people in the Howard government? Ian McFarlane, the Minister for Energy and Trade, believes our gas should be sold overseas and that no gas should be quarantined for Western Australia. The worst of all the people who do not support the Premier is Don Randall, the federal member for Canning. I do not know what Don Randall is an expert on, but domestic gas is clearly not it. I was staggered to hear what he said a couple of weeks ago about our position on the supply of domestic gas. He said that the Premier’s view on securing domestic gas for Western Australia was “not in the national interest” and that the plan was “provincial in Mr Carpenter’s mentality for WA”. That is from a member whose electorate contains a huge bauxite refinery, which is a massive consumer of domestic gas. Gas turbines are an inherent part of the refinery. That refinery in Don Randall’s electorate is sucking up vast amounts of gas, and it supports this government’s argument for the supply of domestic gas. What did he do? He spoke out against it. His own constituents do not agree with him. He should go back and talk to his constituents, think about what he is saying and support our Premier and our government.
However, some people in Australia do not support the Premier. Guess who? The Howard government does not support his position. Who are those people in the Howard government? Ian McFarlane, the Minister for Energy and Trade, believes our gas should be sold overseas and that no gas should be quarantined for Western Australia. The worst of all the people who do not support the Premier is Don Randall, the federal member for Canning. I do not know what Don Randall is an expert on, but domestic gas is clearly not it. I was staggered to hear what he said a couple of weeks ago about our position on the supply of domestic gas. He said that the Premier’s view on securing domestic gas for Western Australia was “not in the national interest” and that the plan was “provincial in Mr Carpenter’s mentality for WA”. That is from a member whose electorate contains a huge bauxite refinery, which is a massive consumer of domestic gas. Gas turbines are an inherent part of the refinery. That refinery in Don Randall’s electorate is sucking up vast amounts of gas, and it supports this government’s argument for the supply of domestic gas. What did he do? He spoke out against it. His own constituents do not agree with him. He should go back and talk to his constituents, think about what he is saying and support our Premier and our government.
Mr F.M. LOGAN replied: I thank the member for Southern River for his question. Members are aware that the Premier has spoken at length both to the media and in this house on this issue. I support the Premier and reiterate some of the domestic gas issues facing Western Australia. Because of domestic gas supply commitments, reserves will run out in 10 to 15 years. I heard the Leader of the Opposition interject on the Premier on Tuesday and ask the Premier what he meant and whether it would be 10 or 15 years and say that the Premier should make his mind up. Mr P.D. Omodei : I did not say that. Mr F.M. LOGAN : That is what the Leader of the Opposition said. Mr P.D. Omodei : I asked if it was 10 or 15 years, because his answer was all over the place. The SPEAKER : Order, Leader of the Opposition! Mr F.M. LOGAN : The answer is simple. It depends on how fast the reserves are used. The Carpenter government has a responsibility to ensure that it protects natural gas supplies to this state. We all have a responsibility to ensure that we do that. Mr C.J. Barnett : The amount we have used is minute compared with what is in the reserves. If you do not look at the right dimensions, you will not get the answer. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Cottesloe likes to answer questions, but it is not his turn to answer questions. I call him and the member for Vasse to order. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I will get to the member for Cottesloe in a minute. We have a duty to ensure that a varied energy supply is available to the state and that gas plays a critical role in that energy supply. The vast majority of Western Australians support the position of the Premier and the government on this issue. Even the state opposition supports the government. The Leader of the Opposition, Paul Omodei, told The West Australian on 22 July that the opposition agrees with the government that the gas belongs to the state and that there should be reservation to provide for domestic consumption. A former Leader of the Opposition Colin Barnett, the member for Cottesloe, told The West Australian the same thing three days later, and said that the state would be foolish not to plan for the future by keeping some of its gas reserves for domestic use. Another former leader of the Liberals, the member for Kalgoorlie, Matt Birney said that we must have laws in place to quarantine a proportion of domestic gas, otherwise the whole lot would be sold overseas. That was a very good comment; he supported disaggregation and now supports the state government on the supply of gas. He is a very good member of Parliament. A Sunday Times editorial said that Mr Carpenter is correct in trying to provide safeguards to protect WA households. The Western Australian Council of Social Service chief executive officer, Lisa Baker, said that there is a case for government intervention when a credible risk of a shortage of domestic supply exists. They are indications from some of the people who support the state government’s case for securing the supply of domestic gas. Many other organisations also support the government’s stance, some of which are the Motor Trade Association of Western Australia, Alinta, Synergy, NewGen Power, Verve, Alcoa, Perth Energy, Burns and Roe Worley and Energy Developments. However, some people in Australia do not support the Premier. Guess who? The Howard government does not support his position. Who are those people in the Howard government? Ian McFarlane, the Minister for Energy and Trade, believes our gas should be sold overseas and that no gas should be quarantined for Western Australia. The worst of all the people who do not support the Premier is Don Randall, the federal member for Canning. I do not know what Don Randall is an expert on, but domestic gas is clearly not it. I was staggered to hear what he said a couple of weeks ago about our position on the supply of domestic gas. He said that the Premier’s view on securing domestic gas for Western Australia was “not in the national interest” and that the plan was “provincial in Mr Carpenter’s mentality for WA”. That is from a member whose electorate contains a huge bauxite refinery, which is a massive consumer of domestic gas. Gas turbines are an inherent part of the refinery. That refinery in Don Randall’s electorate is sucking up vast amounts of gas, and it supports this government’s argument for the supply of domestic gas. What did he do? He spoke out against it. His own constituents do not agree with him. He should go back and talk to his constituents, think about what he is saying and support our Premier and our government.
I thank the member for Southern River for his question. Members are aware that the Premier has spoken at length both to the media and in this house on this issue. I support the Premier and reiterate some of the domestic gas issues facing Western Australia. Because of domestic gas supply commitments, reserves will run out in 10 to 15 years. I heard the Leader of the Opposition interject on the Premier on Tuesday and ask the Premier what he meant and whether it would be 10 or 15 years and say that the Premier should make his mind up. Mr P.D. Omodei : I did not say that. Mr F.M. LOGAN : That is what the Leader of the Opposition said. Mr P.D. Omodei : I asked if it was 10 or 15 years, because his answer was all over the place. The SPEAKER : Order, Leader of the Opposition! Mr F.M. LOGAN : The answer is simple. It depends on how fast the reserves are used. The Carpenter government has a responsibility to ensure that it protects natural gas supplies to this state. We all have a responsibility to ensure that we do that. Mr C.J. Barnett : The amount we have used is minute compared with what is in the reserves. If you do not look at the right dimensions, you will not get the answer. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Cottesloe likes to answer questions, but it is not his turn to answer questions. I call him and the member for Vasse to order. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I will get to the member for Cottesloe in a minute. We have a duty to ensure that a varied energy supply is available to the state and that gas plays a critical role in that energy supply. The vast majority of Western Australians support the position of the Premier and the government on this issue. Even the state opposition supports the government. The Leader of the Opposition, Paul Omodei, told The West Australian on 22 July that the opposition agrees with the government that the gas belongs to the state and that there should be reservation to provide for domestic consumption. A former Leader of the Opposition Colin Barnett, the member for Cottesloe, told The West Australian the same thing three days later, and said that the state would be foolish not to plan for the future by keeping some of its gas reserves for domestic use. Another former leader of the Liberals, the member for Kalgoorlie, Matt Birney said that we must have laws in place to quarantine a proportion of domestic gas, otherwise the whole lot would be sold overseas. That was a very good comment; he supported disaggregation and now supports the state government on the supply of gas. He is a very good member of Parliament. A Sunday Times editorial said that Mr Carpenter is correct in trying to provide safeguards to protect WA households. The Western Australian Council of Social Service chief executive officer, Lisa Baker, said that there is a case for government intervention when a credible risk of a shortage of domestic supply exists. They are indications from some of the people who support the state government’s case for securing the supply of domestic gas. Many other organisations also support the government’s stance, some of which are the Motor Trade Association of Western Australia, Alinta, Synergy, NewGen Power, Verve, Alcoa, Perth Energy, Burns and Roe Worley and Energy Developments. However, some people in Australia do not support the Premier. Guess who? The Howard government does not support his position. Who are those people in the Howard government? Ian McFarlane, the Minister for Energy and Trade, believes our gas should be sold overseas and that no gas should be quarantined for Western Australia. The worst of all the people who do not support the Premier is Don Randall, the federal member for Canning. I do not know what Don Randall is an expert on, but domestic gas is clearly not it. I was staggered to hear what he said a couple of weeks ago about our position on the supply of domestic gas. He said that the Premier’s view on securing domestic gas for Western Australia was “not in the national interest” and that the plan was “provincial in Mr Carpenter’s mentality for WA”. That is from a member whose electorate contains a huge bauxite refinery, which is a massive consumer of domestic gas. Gas turbines are an inherent part of the refinery. That refinery in Don Randall’s electorate is sucking up vast amounts of gas, and it supports this government’s argument for the supply of domestic gas. What did he do? He spoke out against it. His own constituents do not agree with him. He should go back and talk to his constituents, think about what he is saying and support our Premier and our government.
Mr P.D. Omodei : I did not say that. Mr F.M. LOGAN : That is what the Leader of the Opposition said. Mr P.D. Omodei : I asked if it was 10 or 15 years, because his answer was all over the place. The SPEAKER : Order, Leader of the Opposition! Mr F.M. LOGAN : The answer is simple. It depends on how fast the reserves are used. The Carpenter government has a responsibility to ensure that it protects natural gas supplies to this state. We all have a responsibility to ensure that we do that. Mr C.J. Barnett : The amount we have used is minute compared with what is in the reserves. If you do not look at the right dimensions, you will not get the answer. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Cottesloe likes to answer questions, but it is not his turn to answer questions. I call him and the member for Vasse to order. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I will get to the member for Cottesloe in a minute. We have a duty to ensure that a varied energy supply is available to the state and that gas plays a critical role in that energy supply. The vast majority of Western Australians support the position of the Premier and the government on this issue. Even the state opposition supports the government. The Leader of the Opposition, Paul Omodei, told The West Australian on 22 July that the opposition agrees with the government that the gas belongs to the state and that there should be reservation to provide for domestic consumption. A former Leader of the Opposition Colin Barnett, the member for Cottesloe, told The West Australian the same thing three days later, and said that the state would be foolish not to plan for the future by keeping some of its gas reserves for domestic use. Another former leader of the Liberals, the member for Kalgoorlie, Matt Birney said that we must have laws in place to quarantine a proportion of domestic gas, otherwise the whole lot would be sold overseas. That was a very good comment; he supported disaggregation and now supports the state government on the supply of gas. He is a very good member of Parliament. A Sunday Times editorial said that Mr Carpenter is correct in trying to provide safeguards to protect WA households. The Western Australian Council of Social Service chief executive officer, Lisa Baker, said that there is a case for government intervention when a credible risk of a shortage of domestic supply exists. They are indications from some of the people who support the state government’s case for securing the supply of domestic gas. Many other organisations also support the government’s stance, some of which are the Motor Trade Association of Western Australia, Alinta, Synergy, NewGen Power, Verve, Alcoa, Perth Energy, Burns and Roe Worley and Energy Developments. However, some people in Australia do not support the Premier. Guess who? The Howard government does not support his position. Who are those people in the Howard government? Ian McFarlane, the Minister for Energy and Trade, believes our gas should be sold overseas and that no gas should be quarantined for Western Australia. The worst of all the people who do not support the Premier is Don Randall, the federal member for Canning. I do not know what Don Randall is an expert on, but domestic gas is clearly not it. I was staggered to hear what he said a couple of weeks ago about our position on the supply of domestic gas. He said that the Premier’s view on securing domestic gas for Western Australia was “not in the national interest” and that the plan was “provincial in Mr Carpenter’s mentality for WA”. That is from a member whose electorate contains a huge bauxite refinery, which is a massive consumer of domestic gas. Gas turbines are an inherent part of the refinery. That refinery in Don Randall’s electorate is sucking up vast amounts of gas, and it supports this government’s argument for the supply of domestic gas. What did he do? He spoke out against it. His own constituents do not agree with him. He should go back and talk to his constituents, think about what he is saying and support our Premier and our government.
Mr F.M. LOGAN : That is what the Leader of the Opposition said. Mr P.D. Omodei : I asked if it was 10 or 15 years, because his answer was all over the place. The SPEAKER : Order, Leader of the Opposition! Mr F.M. LOGAN : The answer is simple. It depends on how fast the reserves are used. The Carpenter government has a responsibility to ensure that it protects natural gas supplies to this state. We all have a responsibility to ensure that we do that. Mr C.J. Barnett : The amount we have used is minute compared with what is in the reserves. If you do not look at the right dimensions, you will not get the answer. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Cottesloe likes to answer questions, but it is not his turn to answer questions. I call him and the member for Vasse to order. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I will get to the member for Cottesloe in a minute. We have a duty to ensure that a varied energy supply is available to the state and that gas plays a critical role in that energy supply. The vast majority of Western Australians support the position of the Premier and the government on this issue. Even the state opposition supports the government. The Leader of the Opposition, Paul Omodei, told The West Australian on 22 July that the opposition agrees with the government that the gas belongs to the state and that there should be reservation to provide for domestic consumption. A former Leader of the Opposition Colin Barnett, the member for Cottesloe, told The West Australian the same thing three days later, and said that the state would be foolish not to plan for the future by keeping some of its gas reserves for domestic use. Another former leader of the Liberals, the member for Kalgoorlie, Matt Birney said that we must have laws in place to quarantine a proportion of domestic gas, otherwise the whole lot would be sold overseas. That was a very good comment; he supported disaggregation and now supports the state government on the supply of gas. He is a very good member of Parliament. A Sunday Times editorial said that Mr Carpenter is correct in trying to provide safeguards to protect WA households. The Western Australian Council of Social Service chief executive officer, Lisa Baker, said that there is a case for government intervention when a credible risk of a shortage of domestic supply exists. They are indications from some of the people who support the state government’s case for securing the supply of domestic gas. Many other organisations also support the government’s stance, some of which are the Motor Trade Association of Western Australia, Alinta, Synergy, NewGen Power, Verve, Alcoa, Perth Energy, Burns and Roe Worley and Energy Developments. However, some people in Australia do not support the Premier. Guess who? The Howard government does not support his position. Who are those people in the Howard government? Ian McFarlane, the Minister for Energy and Trade, believes our gas should be sold overseas and that no gas should be quarantined for Western Australia. The worst of all the people who do not support the Premier is Don Randall, the federal member for Canning. I do not know what Don Randall is an expert on, but domestic gas is clearly not it. I was staggered to hear what he said a couple of weeks ago about our position on the supply of domestic gas. He said that the Premier’s view on securing domestic gas for Western Australia was “not in the national interest” and that the plan was “provincial in Mr Carpenter’s mentality for WA”. That is from a member whose electorate contains a huge bauxite refinery, which is a massive consumer of domestic gas. Gas turbines are an inherent part of the refinery. That refinery in Don Randall’s electorate is sucking up vast amounts of gas, and it supports this government’s argument for the supply of domestic gas. What did he do? He spoke out against it. His own constituents do not agree with him. He should go back and talk to his constituents, think about what he is saying and support our Premier and our government.
Mr P.D. Omodei : I asked if it was 10 or 15 years, because his answer was all over the place. The SPEAKER : Order, Leader of the Opposition! Mr F.M. LOGAN : The answer is simple. It depends on how fast the reserves are used. The Carpenter government has a responsibility to ensure that it protects natural gas supplies to this state. We all have a responsibility to ensure that we do that. Mr C.J. Barnett : The amount we have used is minute compared with what is in the reserves. If you do not look at the right dimensions, you will not get the answer. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Cottesloe likes to answer questions, but it is not his turn to answer questions. I call him and the member for Vasse to order. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I will get to the member for Cottesloe in a minute. We have a duty to ensure that a varied energy supply is available to the state and that gas plays a critical role in that energy supply. The vast majority of Western Australians support the position of the Premier and the government on this issue. Even the state opposition supports the government. The Leader of the Opposition, Paul Omodei, told The West Australian on 22 July that the opposition agrees with the government that the gas belongs to the state and that there should be reservation to provide for domestic consumption. A former Leader of the Opposition Colin Barnett, the member for Cottesloe, told The West Australian the same thing three days later, and said that the state would be foolish not to plan for the future by keeping some of its gas reserves for domestic use. Another former leader of the Liberals, the member for Kalgoorlie, Matt Birney said that we must have laws in place to quarantine a proportion of domestic gas, otherwise the whole lot would be sold overseas. That was a very good comment; he supported disaggregation and now supports the state government on the supply of gas. He is a very good member of Parliament. A Sunday Times editorial said that Mr Carpenter is correct in trying to provide safeguards to protect WA households. The Western Australian Council of Social Service chief executive officer, Lisa Baker, said that there is a case for government intervention when a credible risk of a shortage of domestic supply exists. They are indications from some of the people who support the state government’s case for securing the supply of domestic gas. Many other organisations also support the government’s stance, some of which are the Motor Trade Association of Western Australia, Alinta, Synergy, NewGen Power, Verve, Alcoa, Perth Energy, Burns and Roe Worley and Energy Developments. However, some people in Australia do not support the Premier. Guess who? The Howard government does not support his position. Who are those people in the Howard government? Ian McFarlane, the Minister for Energy and Trade, believes our gas should be sold overseas and that no gas should be quarantined for Western Australia. The worst of all the people who do not support the Premier is Don Randall, the federal member for Canning. I do not know what Don Randall is an expert on, but domestic gas is clearly not it. I was staggered to hear what he said a couple of weeks ago about our position on the supply of domestic gas. He said that the Premier’s view on securing domestic gas for Western Australia was “not in the national interest” and that the plan was “provincial in Mr Carpenter’s mentality for WA”. That is from a member whose electorate contains a huge bauxite refinery, which is a massive consumer of domestic gas. Gas turbines are an inherent part of the refinery. That refinery in Don Randall’s electorate is sucking up vast amounts of gas, and it supports this government’s argument for the supply of domestic gas. What did he do? He spoke out against it. His own constituents do not agree with him. He should go back and talk to his constituents, think about what he is saying and support our Premier and our government.
The SPEAKER : Order, Leader of the Opposition! Mr F.M. LOGAN : The answer is simple. It depends on how fast the reserves are used. The Carpenter government has a responsibility to ensure that it protects natural gas supplies to this state. We all have a responsibility to ensure that we do that. Mr C.J. Barnett : The amount we have used is minute compared with what is in the reserves. If you do not look at the right dimensions, you will not get the answer. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Cottesloe likes to answer questions, but it is not his turn to answer questions. I call him and the member for Vasse to order. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I will get to the member for Cottesloe in a minute. We have a duty to ensure that a varied energy supply is available to the state and that gas plays a critical role in that energy supply. The vast majority of Western Australians support the position of the Premier and the government on this issue. Even the state opposition supports the government. The Leader of the Opposition, Paul Omodei, told The West Australian on 22 July that the opposition agrees with the government that the gas belongs to the state and that there should be reservation to provide for domestic consumption. A former Leader of the Opposition Colin Barnett, the member for Cottesloe, told The West Australian the same thing three days later, and said that the state would be foolish not to plan for the future by keeping some of its gas reserves for domestic use. Another former leader of the Liberals, the member for Kalgoorlie, Matt Birney said that we must have laws in place to quarantine a proportion of domestic gas, otherwise the whole lot would be sold overseas. That was a very good comment; he supported disaggregation and now supports the state government on the supply of gas. He is a very good member of Parliament. A Sunday Times editorial said that Mr Carpenter is correct in trying to provide safeguards to protect WA households. The Western Australian Council of Social Service chief executive officer, Lisa Baker, said that there is a case for government intervention when a credible risk of a shortage of domestic supply exists. They are indications from some of the people who support the state government’s case for securing the supply of domestic gas. Many other organisations also support the government’s stance, some of which are the Motor Trade Association of Western Australia, Alinta, Synergy, NewGen Power, Verve, Alcoa, Perth Energy, Burns and Roe Worley and Energy Developments. However, some people in Australia do not support the Premier. Guess who? The Howard government does not support his position. Who are those people in the Howard government? Ian McFarlane, the Minister for Energy and Trade, believes our gas should be sold overseas and that no gas should be quarantined for Western Australia. The worst of all the people who do not support the Premier is Don Randall, the federal member for Canning. I do not know what Don Randall is an expert on, but domestic gas is clearly not it. I was staggered to hear what he said a couple of weeks ago about our position on the supply of domestic gas. He said that the Premier’s view on securing domestic gas for Western Australia was “not in the national interest” and that the plan was “provincial in Mr Carpenter’s mentality for WA”. That is from a member whose electorate contains a huge bauxite refinery, which is a massive consumer of domestic gas. Gas turbines are an inherent part of the refinery. That refinery in Don Randall’s electorate is sucking up vast amounts of gas, and it supports this government’s argument for the supply of domestic gas. What did he do? He spoke out against it. His own constituents do not agree with him. He should go back and talk to his constituents, think about what he is saying and support our Premier and our government.
Mr F.M. LOGAN : The answer is simple. It depends on how fast the reserves are used. The Carpenter government has a responsibility to ensure that it protects natural gas supplies to this state. We all have a responsibility to ensure that we do that. Mr C.J. Barnett : The amount we have used is minute compared with what is in the reserves. If you do not look at the right dimensions, you will not get the answer. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Cottesloe likes to answer questions, but it is not his turn to answer questions. I call him and the member for Vasse to order. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I will get to the member for Cottesloe in a minute. We have a duty to ensure that a varied energy supply is available to the state and that gas plays a critical role in that energy supply. The vast majority of Western Australians support the position of the Premier and the government on this issue. Even the state opposition supports the government. The Leader of the Opposition, Paul Omodei, told The West Australian on 22 July that the opposition agrees with the government that the gas belongs to the state and that there should be reservation to provide for domestic consumption. A former Leader of the Opposition Colin Barnett, the member for Cottesloe, told The West Australian the same thing three days later, and said that the state would be foolish not to plan for the future by keeping some of its gas reserves for domestic use. Another former leader of the Liberals, the member for Kalgoorlie, Matt Birney said that we must have laws in place to quarantine a proportion of domestic gas, otherwise the whole lot would be sold overseas. That was a very good comment; he supported disaggregation and now supports the state government on the supply of gas. He is a very good member of Parliament. A Sunday Times editorial said that Mr Carpenter is correct in trying to provide safeguards to protect WA households. The Western Australian Council of Social Service chief executive officer, Lisa Baker, said that there is a case for government intervention when a credible risk of a shortage of domestic supply exists. They are indications from some of the people who support the state government’s case for securing the supply of domestic gas. Many other organisations also support the government’s stance, some of which are the Motor Trade Association of Western Australia, Alinta, Synergy, NewGen Power, Verve, Alcoa, Perth Energy, Burns and Roe Worley and Energy Developments. However, some people in Australia do not support the Premier. Guess who? The Howard government does not support his position. Who are those people in the Howard government? Ian McFarlane, the Minister for Energy and Trade, believes our gas should be sold overseas and that no gas should be quarantined for Western Australia. The worst of all the people who do not support the Premier is Don Randall, the federal member for Canning. I do not know what Don Randall is an expert on, but domestic gas is clearly not it. I was staggered to hear what he said a couple of weeks ago about our position on the supply of domestic gas. He said that the Premier’s view on securing domestic gas for Western Australia was “not in the national interest” and that the plan was “provincial in Mr Carpenter’s mentality for WA”. That is from a member whose electorate contains a huge bauxite refinery, which is a massive consumer of domestic gas. Gas turbines are an inherent part of the refinery. That refinery in Don Randall’s electorate is sucking up vast amounts of gas, and it supports this government’s argument for the supply of domestic gas. What did he do? He spoke out against it. His own constituents do not agree with him. He should go back and talk to his constituents, think about what he is saying and support our Premier and our government.
Mr C.J. Barnett : The amount we have used is minute compared with what is in the reserves. If you do not look at the right dimensions, you will not get the answer. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Cottesloe likes to answer questions, but it is not his turn to answer questions. I call him and the member for Vasse to order. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I will get to the member for Cottesloe in a minute. We have a duty to ensure that a varied energy supply is available to the state and that gas plays a critical role in that energy supply. The vast majority of Western Australians support the position of the Premier and the government on this issue. Even the state opposition supports the government. The Leader of the Opposition, Paul Omodei, told The West Australian on 22 July that the opposition agrees with the government that the gas belongs to the state and that there should be reservation to provide for domestic consumption. A former Leader of the Opposition Colin Barnett, the member for Cottesloe, told The West Australian the same thing three days later, and said that the state would be foolish not to plan for the future by keeping some of its gas reserves for domestic use. Another former leader of the Liberals, the member for Kalgoorlie, Matt Birney said that we must have laws in place to quarantine a proportion of domestic gas, otherwise the whole lot would be sold overseas. That was a very good comment; he supported disaggregation and now supports the state government on the supply of gas. He is a very good member of Parliament. A Sunday Times editorial said that Mr Carpenter is correct in trying to provide safeguards to protect WA households. The Western Australian Council of Social Service chief executive officer, Lisa Baker, said that there is a case for government intervention when a credible risk of a shortage of domestic supply exists. They are indications from some of the people who support the state government’s case for securing the supply of domestic gas. Many other organisations also support the government’s stance, some of which are the Motor Trade Association of Western Australia, Alinta, Synergy, NewGen Power, Verve, Alcoa, Perth Energy, Burns and Roe Worley and Energy Developments. However, some people in Australia do not support the Premier. Guess who? The Howard government does not support his position. Who are those people in the Howard government? Ian McFarlane, the Minister for Energy and Trade, believes our gas should be sold overseas and that no gas should be quarantined for Western Australia. The worst of all the people who do not support the Premier is Don Randall, the federal member for Canning. I do not know what Don Randall is an expert on, but domestic gas is clearly not it. I was staggered to hear what he said a couple of weeks ago about our position on the supply of domestic gas. He said that the Premier’s view on securing domestic gas for Western Australia was “not in the national interest” and that the plan was “provincial in Mr Carpenter’s mentality for WA”. That is from a member whose electorate contains a huge bauxite refinery, which is a massive consumer of domestic gas. Gas turbines are an inherent part of the refinery. That refinery in Don Randall’s electorate is sucking up vast amounts of gas, and it supports this government’s argument for the supply of domestic gas. What did he do? He spoke out against it. His own constituents do not agree with him. He should go back and talk to his constituents, think about what he is saying and support our Premier and our government.
The SPEAKER : I know the member for Cottesloe likes to answer questions, but it is not his turn to answer questions. I call him and the member for Vasse to order. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I will get to the member for Cottesloe in a minute. We have a duty to ensure that a varied energy supply is available to the state and that gas plays a critical role in that energy supply. The vast majority of Western Australians support the position of the Premier and the government on this issue. Even the state opposition supports the government. The Leader of the Opposition, Paul Omodei, told The West Australian on 22 July that the opposition agrees with the government that the gas belongs to the state and that there should be reservation to provide for domestic consumption. A former Leader of the Opposition Colin Barnett, the member for Cottesloe, told The West Australian the same thing three days later, and said that the state would be foolish not to plan for the future by keeping some of its gas reserves for domestic use. Another former leader of the Liberals, the member for Kalgoorlie, Matt Birney said that we must have laws in place to quarantine a proportion of domestic gas, otherwise the whole lot would be sold overseas. That was a very good comment; he supported disaggregation and now supports the state government on the supply of gas. He is a very good member of Parliament. A Sunday Times editorial said that Mr Carpenter is correct in trying to provide safeguards to protect WA households. The Western Australian Council of Social Service chief executive officer, Lisa Baker, said that there is a case for government intervention when a credible risk of a shortage of domestic supply exists. They are indications from some of the people who support the state government’s case for securing the supply of domestic gas. Many other organisations also support the government’s stance, some of which are the Motor Trade Association of Western Australia, Alinta, Synergy, NewGen Power, Verve, Alcoa, Perth Energy, Burns and Roe Worley and Energy Developments. However, some people in Australia do not support the Premier. Guess who? The Howard government does not support his position. Who are those people in the Howard government? Ian McFarlane, the Minister for Energy and Trade, believes our gas should be sold overseas and that no gas should be quarantined for Western Australia. The worst of all the people who do not support the Premier is Don Randall, the federal member for Canning. I do not know what Don Randall is an expert on, but domestic gas is clearly not it. I was staggered to hear what he said a couple of weeks ago about our position on the supply of domestic gas. He said that the Premier’s view on securing domestic gas for Western Australia was “not in the national interest” and that the plan was “provincial in Mr Carpenter’s mentality for WA”. That is from a member whose electorate contains a huge bauxite refinery, which is a massive consumer of domestic gas. Gas turbines are an inherent part of the refinery. That refinery in Don Randall’s electorate is sucking up vast amounts of gas, and it supports this government’s argument for the supply of domestic gas. What did he do? He spoke out against it. His own constituents do not agree with him. He should go back and talk to his constituents, think about what he is saying and support our Premier and our government.
Mr F.M. LOGAN : I will get to the member for Cottesloe in a minute. We have a duty to ensure that a varied energy supply is available to the state and that gas plays a critical role in that energy supply. The vast majority of Western Australians support the position of the Premier and the government on this issue. Even the state opposition supports the government. The Leader of the Opposition, Paul Omodei, told The West Australian on 22 July that the opposition agrees with the government that the gas belongs to the state and that there should be reservation to provide for domestic consumption. A former Leader of the Opposition Colin Barnett, the member for Cottesloe, told The West Australian the same thing three days later, and said that the state would be foolish not to plan for the future by keeping some of its gas reserves for domestic use. Another former leader of the Liberals, the member for Kalgoorlie, Matt Birney said that we must have laws in place to quarantine a proportion of domestic gas, otherwise the whole lot would be sold overseas. That was a very good comment; he supported disaggregation and now supports the state government on the supply of gas. He is a very good member of Parliament. A Sunday Times editorial said that Mr Carpenter is correct in trying to provide safeguards to protect WA households. The Western Australian Council of Social Service chief executive officer, Lisa Baker, said that there is a case for government intervention when a credible risk of a shortage of domestic supply exists. They are indications from some of the people who support the state government’s case for securing the supply of domestic gas. Many other organisations also support the government’s stance, some of which are the Motor Trade Association of Western Australia, Alinta, Synergy, NewGen Power, Verve, Alcoa, Perth Energy, Burns and Roe Worley and Energy Developments. However, some people in Australia do not support the Premier. Guess who? The Howard government does not support his position. Who are those people in the Howard government? Ian McFarlane, the Minister for Energy and Trade, believes our gas should be sold overseas and that no gas should be quarantined for Western Australia. The worst of all the people who do not support the Premier is Don Randall, the federal member for Canning. I do not know what Don Randall is an expert on, but domestic gas is clearly not it. I was staggered to hear what he said a couple of weeks ago about our position on the supply of domestic gas. He said that the Premier’s view on securing domestic gas for Western Australia was “not in the national interest” and that the plan was “provincial in Mr Carpenter’s mentality for WA”. That is from a member whose electorate contains a huge bauxite refinery, which is a massive consumer of domestic gas. Gas turbines are an inherent part of the refinery. That refinery in Don Randall’s electorate is sucking up vast amounts of gas, and it supports this government’s argument for the supply of domestic gas. What did he do? He spoke out against it. His own constituents do not agree with him. He should go back and talk to his constituents, think about what he is saying and support our Premier and our government.
However, some people in Australia do not support the Premier. Guess who? The Howard government does not support his position. Who are those people in the Howard government? Ian McFarlane, the Minister for Energy and Trade, believes our gas should be sold overseas and that no gas should be quarantined for Western Australia. The worst of all the people who do not support the Premier is Don Randall, the federal member for Canning. I do not know what Don Randall is an expert on, but domestic gas is clearly not it. I was staggered to hear what he said a couple of weeks ago about our position on the supply of domestic gas. He said that the Premier’s view on securing domestic gas for Western Australia was “not in the national interest” and that the plan was “provincial in Mr Carpenter’s mentality for WA”. That is from a member whose electorate contains a huge bauxite refinery, which is a massive consumer of domestic gas. Gas turbines are an inherent part of the refinery. That refinery in Don Randall’s electorate is sucking up vast amounts of gas, and it supports this government’s argument for the supply of domestic gas. What did he do? He spoke out against it. His own constituents do not agree with him. He should go back and talk to his constituents, think about what he is saying and support our Premier and our government.
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