❓ A parliamentary question regarding the government's rationale for changing retail trading hours in Western Australia, followed by a lengthy debate and defense of the proposed changes by the Premier.
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RETAIL TRADING HOURS — DEREGULATION 62. Mr P.W. ANDREWS to the Premier: Will the Premier advise why the government believes that current retail trading hours need to be changed? Mr A.J. CARPENTER
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I thank the member for the question. This is a significant issue. There is a very simple answer: we believe that retail trading hours in Western Australia need to be amended because they are a mess. We are hidebound by red tape and bureaucracy in this area. Our retail trading hours are a complete mess, and we need to bring Western Australia and its economy into the twenty-first century and allow people to trade as they would like to trade. It is no longer the role of government to tell people in a minute and minuscule way when and where they can buy and sell in the way our current regulations do. Mr G. Woodhams : Will government offices open seven days a week? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Greenough’s electorate? Mr G. Woodhams : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member. Mr G. Woodhams : Will government offices open seven days a week? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No. Mr G. Woodhams : Why not? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The answer to that is obvious. We are not forcing people to open; we are not forcing people to go to the shops. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Avon’s electorate? Mr M.W. Trenorden : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No? I think the member for Avon should have another look. I am about to inform him. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : Our shops shut at six o’clock. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : None of the businesses — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? I think we have a small education issue on our hands. I will go through this. We need a simpler, better and fairer system governing our trading hours in Western Australia to bring our economy into line with the norm in the twenty-first century. The current trading laws are ridiculous. We all remember the days when people argued ferociously that Australian Football League and Western Australian Football League games should not be played on a Sunday because to allow that to happen would undermine family values. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
RETAIL TRADING HOURS — DEREGULATION
Will the Premier advise why the government believes that current retail trading hours need to be changed? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: I thank the member for the question. This is a significant issue. There is a very simple answer: we believe that retail trading hours in Western Australia need to be amended because they are a mess. We are hidebound by red tape and bureaucracy in this area. Our retail trading hours are a complete mess, and we need to bring Western Australia and its economy into the twenty-first century and allow people to trade as they would like to trade. It is no longer the role of government to tell people in a minute and minuscule way when and where they can buy and sell in the way our current regulations do. Mr G. Woodhams : Will government offices open seven days a week? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Greenough’s electorate? Mr G. Woodhams : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member. Mr G. Woodhams : Will government offices open seven days a week? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No. Mr G. Woodhams : Why not? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The answer to that is obvious. We are not forcing people to open; we are not forcing people to go to the shops. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Avon’s electorate? Mr M.W. Trenorden : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No? I think the member for Avon should have another look. I am about to inform him. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : Our shops shut at six o’clock. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : None of the businesses — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? I think we have a small education issue on our hands. I will go through this. We need a simpler, better and fairer system governing our trading hours in Western Australia to bring our economy into line with the norm in the twenty-first century. The current trading laws are ridiculous. We all remember the days when people argued ferociously that Australian Football League and Western Australian Football League games should not be played on a Sunday because to allow that to happen would undermine family values. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: I thank the member for the question. This is a significant issue. There is a very simple answer: we believe that retail trading hours in Western Australia need to be amended because they are a mess. We are hidebound by red tape and bureaucracy in this area. Our retail trading hours are a complete mess, and we need to bring Western Australia and its economy into the twenty-first century and allow people to trade as they would like to trade. It is no longer the role of government to tell people in a minute and minuscule way when and where they can buy and sell in the way our current regulations do. Mr G. Woodhams : Will government offices open seven days a week? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Greenough’s electorate? Mr G. Woodhams : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member. Mr G. Woodhams : Will government offices open seven days a week? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No. Mr G. Woodhams : Why not? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The answer to that is obvious. We are not forcing people to open; we are not forcing people to go to the shops. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Avon’s electorate? Mr M.W. Trenorden : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No? I think the member for Avon should have another look. I am about to inform him. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : Our shops shut at six o’clock. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : None of the businesses — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? I think we have a small education issue on our hands. I will go through this. We need a simpler, better and fairer system governing our trading hours in Western Australia to bring our economy into line with the norm in the twenty-first century. The current trading laws are ridiculous. We all remember the days when people argued ferociously that Australian Football League and Western Australian Football League games should not be played on a Sunday because to allow that to happen would undermine family values. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
I thank the member for the question. This is a significant issue. There is a very simple answer: we believe that retail trading hours in Western Australia need to be amended because they are a mess. We are hidebound by red tape and bureaucracy in this area. Our retail trading hours are a complete mess, and we need to bring Western Australia and its economy into the twenty-first century and allow people to trade as they would like to trade. It is no longer the role of government to tell people in a minute and minuscule way when and where they can buy and sell in the way our current regulations do. Mr G. Woodhams : Will government offices open seven days a week? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Greenough’s electorate? Mr G. Woodhams : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member. Mr G. Woodhams : Will government offices open seven days a week? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No. Mr G. Woodhams : Why not? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The answer to that is obvious. We are not forcing people to open; we are not forcing people to go to the shops. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Avon’s electorate? Mr M.W. Trenorden : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No? I think the member for Avon should have another look. I am about to inform him. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : Our shops shut at six o’clock. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : None of the businesses — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? I think we have a small education issue on our hands. I will go through this. We need a simpler, better and fairer system governing our trading hours in Western Australia to bring our economy into line with the norm in the twenty-first century. The current trading laws are ridiculous. We all remember the days when people argued ferociously that Australian Football League and Western Australian Football League games should not be played on a Sunday because to allow that to happen would undermine family values. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr G. Woodhams : Will government offices open seven days a week? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Greenough’s electorate? Mr G. Woodhams : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member. Mr G. Woodhams : Will government offices open seven days a week? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No. Mr G. Woodhams : Why not? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The answer to that is obvious. We are not forcing people to open; we are not forcing people to go to the shops. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Avon’s electorate? Mr M.W. Trenorden : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No? I think the member for Avon should have another look. I am about to inform him. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : Our shops shut at six o’clock. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : None of the businesses — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? I think we have a small education issue on our hands. I will go through this. We need a simpler, better and fairer system governing our trading hours in Western Australia to bring our economy into line with the norm in the twenty-first century. The current trading laws are ridiculous. We all remember the days when people argued ferociously that Australian Football League and Western Australian Football League games should not be played on a Sunday because to allow that to happen would undermine family values. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Greenough’s electorate? Mr G. Woodhams : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member. Mr G. Woodhams : Will government offices open seven days a week? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No. Mr G. Woodhams : Why not? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The answer to that is obvious. We are not forcing people to open; we are not forcing people to go to the shops. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Avon’s electorate? Mr M.W. Trenorden : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No? I think the member for Avon should have another look. I am about to inform him. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : Our shops shut at six o’clock. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : None of the businesses — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? I think we have a small education issue on our hands. I will go through this. We need a simpler, better and fairer system governing our trading hours in Western Australia to bring our economy into line with the norm in the twenty-first century. The current trading laws are ridiculous. We all remember the days when people argued ferociously that Australian Football League and Western Australian Football League games should not be played on a Sunday because to allow that to happen would undermine family values. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr G. Woodhams : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member. Mr G. Woodhams : Will government offices open seven days a week? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No. Mr G. Woodhams : Why not? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The answer to that is obvious. We are not forcing people to open; we are not forcing people to go to the shops. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Avon’s electorate? Mr M.W. Trenorden : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No? I think the member for Avon should have another look. I am about to inform him. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : Our shops shut at six o’clock. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : None of the businesses — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? I think we have a small education issue on our hands. I will go through this. We need a simpler, better and fairer system governing our trading hours in Western Australia to bring our economy into line with the norm in the twenty-first century. The current trading laws are ridiculous. We all remember the days when people argued ferociously that Australian Football League and Western Australian Football League games should not be played on a Sunday because to allow that to happen would undermine family values. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member. Mr G. Woodhams : Will government offices open seven days a week? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No. Mr G. Woodhams : Why not? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The answer to that is obvious. We are not forcing people to open; we are not forcing people to go to the shops. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Avon’s electorate? Mr M.W. Trenorden : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No? I think the member for Avon should have another look. I am about to inform him. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : Our shops shut at six o’clock. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : None of the businesses — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? I think we have a small education issue on our hands. I will go through this. We need a simpler, better and fairer system governing our trading hours in Western Australia to bring our economy into line with the norm in the twenty-first century. The current trading laws are ridiculous. We all remember the days when people argued ferociously that Australian Football League and Western Australian Football League games should not be played on a Sunday because to allow that to happen would undermine family values. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr G. Woodhams : Will government offices open seven days a week? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No. Mr G. Woodhams : Why not? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The answer to that is obvious. We are not forcing people to open; we are not forcing people to go to the shops. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Avon’s electorate? Mr M.W. Trenorden : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No? I think the member for Avon should have another look. I am about to inform him. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : Our shops shut at six o’clock. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : None of the businesses — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? I think we have a small education issue on our hands. I will go through this. We need a simpler, better and fairer system governing our trading hours in Western Australia to bring our economy into line with the norm in the twenty-first century. The current trading laws are ridiculous. We all remember the days when people argued ferociously that Australian Football League and Western Australian Football League games should not be played on a Sunday because to allow that to happen would undermine family values. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No. Mr G. Woodhams : Why not? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The answer to that is obvious. We are not forcing people to open; we are not forcing people to go to the shops. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Avon’s electorate? Mr M.W. Trenorden : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No? I think the member for Avon should have another look. I am about to inform him. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : Our shops shut at six o’clock. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : None of the businesses — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? I think we have a small education issue on our hands. I will go through this. We need a simpler, better and fairer system governing our trading hours in Western Australia to bring our economy into line with the norm in the twenty-first century. The current trading laws are ridiculous. We all remember the days when people argued ferociously that Australian Football League and Western Australian Football League games should not be played on a Sunday because to allow that to happen would undermine family values. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr G. Woodhams : Why not? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The answer to that is obvious. We are not forcing people to open; we are not forcing people to go to the shops. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Avon’s electorate? Mr M.W. Trenorden : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No? I think the member for Avon should have another look. I am about to inform him. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : Our shops shut at six o’clock. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : None of the businesses — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? I think we have a small education issue on our hands. I will go through this. We need a simpler, better and fairer system governing our trading hours in Western Australia to bring our economy into line with the norm in the twenty-first century. The current trading laws are ridiculous. We all remember the days when people argued ferociously that Australian Football League and Western Australian Football League games should not be played on a Sunday because to allow that to happen would undermine family values. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The answer to that is obvious. We are not forcing people to open; we are not forcing people to go to the shops. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Avon’s electorate? Mr M.W. Trenorden : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No? I think the member for Avon should have another look. I am about to inform him. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : Our shops shut at six o’clock. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : None of the businesses — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? I think we have a small education issue on our hands. I will go through this. We need a simpler, better and fairer system governing our trading hours in Western Australia to bring our economy into line with the norm in the twenty-first century. The current trading laws are ridiculous. We all remember the days when people argued ferociously that Australian Football League and Western Australian Football League games should not be played on a Sunday because to allow that to happen would undermine family values. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr M.W. Trenorden : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No? I think the member for Avon should have another look. I am about to inform him. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : Our shops shut at six o’clock. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : None of the businesses — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? I think we have a small education issue on our hands. I will go through this. We need a simpler, better and fairer system governing our trading hours in Western Australia to bring our economy into line with the norm in the twenty-first century. The current trading laws are ridiculous. We all remember the days when people argued ferociously that Australian Football League and Western Australian Football League games should not be played on a Sunday because to allow that to happen would undermine family values. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No? I think the member for Avon should have another look. I am about to inform him. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : Our shops shut at six o’clock. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : None of the businesses — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? I think we have a small education issue on our hands. I will go through this. We need a simpler, better and fairer system governing our trading hours in Western Australia to bring our economy into line with the norm in the twenty-first century. The current trading laws are ridiculous. We all remember the days when people argued ferociously that Australian Football League and Western Australian Football League games should not be played on a Sunday because to allow that to happen would undermine family values. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr B.J. Grylls : Our shops shut at six o’clock. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : None of the businesses — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? I think we have a small education issue on our hands. I will go through this. We need a simpler, better and fairer system governing our trading hours in Western Australia to bring our economy into line with the norm in the twenty-first century. The current trading laws are ridiculous. We all remember the days when people argued ferociously that Australian Football League and Western Australian Football League games should not be played on a Sunday because to allow that to happen would undermine family values. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : None of the businesses — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? I think we have a small education issue on our hands. I will go through this. We need a simpler, better and fairer system governing our trading hours in Western Australia to bring our economy into line with the norm in the twenty-first century. The current trading laws are ridiculous. We all remember the days when people argued ferociously that Australian Football League and Western Australian Football League games should not be played on a Sunday because to allow that to happen would undermine family values. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr B.J. Grylls : None of the businesses — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? I think we have a small education issue on our hands. I will go through this. We need a simpler, better and fairer system governing our trading hours in Western Australia to bring our economy into line with the norm in the twenty-first century. The current trading laws are ridiculous. We all remember the days when people argued ferociously that Australian Football League and Western Australian Football League games should not be played on a Sunday because to allow that to happen would undermine family values. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? I think we have a small education issue on our hands. I will go through this. We need a simpler, better and fairer system governing our trading hours in Western Australia to bring our economy into line with the norm in the twenty-first century. The current trading laws are ridiculous. We all remember the days when people argued ferociously that Australian Football League and Western Australian Football League games should not be played on a Sunday because to allow that to happen would undermine family values. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
RETAIL TRADING HOURS — DEREGULATION
Will the Premier advise why the government believes that current retail trading hours need to be changed? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: I thank the member for the question. This is a significant issue. There is a very simple answer: we believe that retail trading hours in Western Australia need to be amended because they are a mess. We are hidebound by red tape and bureaucracy in this area. Our retail trading hours are a complete mess, and we need to bring Western Australia and its economy into the twenty-first century and allow people to trade as they would like to trade. It is no longer the role of government to tell people in a minute and minuscule way when and where they can buy and sell in the way our current regulations do. Mr G. Woodhams : Will government offices open seven days a week? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Greenough’s electorate? Mr G. Woodhams : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member. Mr G. Woodhams : Will government offices open seven days a week? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No. Mr G. Woodhams : Why not? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The answer to that is obvious. We are not forcing people to open; we are not forcing people to go to the shops. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Avon’s electorate? Mr M.W. Trenorden : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No? I think the member for Avon should have another look. I am about to inform him. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : Our shops shut at six o’clock. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : None of the businesses — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? I think we have a small education issue on our hands. I will go through this. We need a simpler, better and fairer system governing our trading hours in Western Australia to bring our economy into line with the norm in the twenty-first century. The current trading laws are ridiculous. We all remember the days when people argued ferociously that Australian Football League and Western Australian Football League games should not be played on a Sunday because to allow that to happen would undermine family values. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: I thank the member for the question. This is a significant issue. There is a very simple answer: we believe that retail trading hours in Western Australia need to be amended because they are a mess. We are hidebound by red tape and bureaucracy in this area. Our retail trading hours are a complete mess, and we need to bring Western Australia and its economy into the twenty-first century and allow people to trade as they would like to trade. It is no longer the role of government to tell people in a minute and minuscule way when and where they can buy and sell in the way our current regulations do. Mr G. Woodhams : Will government offices open seven days a week? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Greenough’s electorate? Mr G. Woodhams : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member. Mr G. Woodhams : Will government offices open seven days a week? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No. Mr G. Woodhams : Why not? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The answer to that is obvious. We are not forcing people to open; we are not forcing people to go to the shops. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Avon’s electorate? Mr M.W. Trenorden : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No? I think the member for Avon should have another look. I am about to inform him. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : Our shops shut at six o’clock. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : None of the businesses — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? I think we have a small education issue on our hands. I will go through this. We need a simpler, better and fairer system governing our trading hours in Western Australia to bring our economy into line with the norm in the twenty-first century. The current trading laws are ridiculous. We all remember the days when people argued ferociously that Australian Football League and Western Australian Football League games should not be played on a Sunday because to allow that to happen would undermine family values. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
I thank the member for the question. This is a significant issue. There is a very simple answer: we believe that retail trading hours in Western Australia need to be amended because they are a mess. We are hidebound by red tape and bureaucracy in this area. Our retail trading hours are a complete mess, and we need to bring Western Australia and its economy into the twenty-first century and allow people to trade as they would like to trade. It is no longer the role of government to tell people in a minute and minuscule way when and where they can buy and sell in the way our current regulations do. Mr G. Woodhams : Will government offices open seven days a week? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Greenough’s electorate? Mr G. Woodhams : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member. Mr G. Woodhams : Will government offices open seven days a week? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No. Mr G. Woodhams : Why not? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The answer to that is obvious. We are not forcing people to open; we are not forcing people to go to the shops. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Avon’s electorate? Mr M.W. Trenorden : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No? I think the member for Avon should have another look. I am about to inform him. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : Our shops shut at six o’clock. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : None of the businesses — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? I think we have a small education issue on our hands. I will go through this. We need a simpler, better and fairer system governing our trading hours in Western Australia to bring our economy into line with the norm in the twenty-first century. The current trading laws are ridiculous. We all remember the days when people argued ferociously that Australian Football League and Western Australian Football League games should not be played on a Sunday because to allow that to happen would undermine family values. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr G. Woodhams : Will government offices open seven days a week? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Greenough’s electorate? Mr G. Woodhams : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member. Mr G. Woodhams : Will government offices open seven days a week? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No. Mr G. Woodhams : Why not? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The answer to that is obvious. We are not forcing people to open; we are not forcing people to go to the shops. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Avon’s electorate? Mr M.W. Trenorden : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No? I think the member for Avon should have another look. I am about to inform him. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : Our shops shut at six o’clock. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : None of the businesses — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? I think we have a small education issue on our hands. I will go through this. We need a simpler, better and fairer system governing our trading hours in Western Australia to bring our economy into line with the norm in the twenty-first century. The current trading laws are ridiculous. We all remember the days when people argued ferociously that Australian Football League and Western Australian Football League games should not be played on a Sunday because to allow that to happen would undermine family values. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Greenough’s electorate? Mr G. Woodhams : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member. Mr G. Woodhams : Will government offices open seven days a week? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No. Mr G. Woodhams : Why not? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The answer to that is obvious. We are not forcing people to open; we are not forcing people to go to the shops. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Avon’s electorate? Mr M.W. Trenorden : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No? I think the member for Avon should have another look. I am about to inform him. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : Our shops shut at six o’clock. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : None of the businesses — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? I think we have a small education issue on our hands. I will go through this. We need a simpler, better and fairer system governing our trading hours in Western Australia to bring our economy into line with the norm in the twenty-first century. The current trading laws are ridiculous. We all remember the days when people argued ferociously that Australian Football League and Western Australian Football League games should not be played on a Sunday because to allow that to happen would undermine family values. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr G. Woodhams : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member. Mr G. Woodhams : Will government offices open seven days a week? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No. Mr G. Woodhams : Why not? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The answer to that is obvious. We are not forcing people to open; we are not forcing people to go to the shops. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Avon’s electorate? Mr M.W. Trenorden : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No? I think the member for Avon should have another look. I am about to inform him. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : Our shops shut at six o’clock. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : None of the businesses — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? I think we have a small education issue on our hands. I will go through this. We need a simpler, better and fairer system governing our trading hours in Western Australia to bring our economy into line with the norm in the twenty-first century. The current trading laws are ridiculous. We all remember the days when people argued ferociously that Australian Football League and Western Australian Football League games should not be played on a Sunday because to allow that to happen would undermine family values. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member. Mr G. Woodhams : Will government offices open seven days a week? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No. Mr G. Woodhams : Why not? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The answer to that is obvious. We are not forcing people to open; we are not forcing people to go to the shops. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Avon’s electorate? Mr M.W. Trenorden : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No? I think the member for Avon should have another look. I am about to inform him. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : Our shops shut at six o’clock. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : None of the businesses — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? I think we have a small education issue on our hands. I will go through this. We need a simpler, better and fairer system governing our trading hours in Western Australia to bring our economy into line with the norm in the twenty-first century. The current trading laws are ridiculous. We all remember the days when people argued ferociously that Australian Football League and Western Australian Football League games should not be played on a Sunday because to allow that to happen would undermine family values. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr G. Woodhams : Will government offices open seven days a week? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No. Mr G. Woodhams : Why not? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The answer to that is obvious. We are not forcing people to open; we are not forcing people to go to the shops. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Avon’s electorate? Mr M.W. Trenorden : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No? I think the member for Avon should have another look. I am about to inform him. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : Our shops shut at six o’clock. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : None of the businesses — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? I think we have a small education issue on our hands. I will go through this. We need a simpler, better and fairer system governing our trading hours in Western Australia to bring our economy into line with the norm in the twenty-first century. The current trading laws are ridiculous. We all remember the days when people argued ferociously that Australian Football League and Western Australian Football League games should not be played on a Sunday because to allow that to happen would undermine family values. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No. Mr G. Woodhams : Why not? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The answer to that is obvious. We are not forcing people to open; we are not forcing people to go to the shops. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Avon’s electorate? Mr M.W. Trenorden : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No? I think the member for Avon should have another look. I am about to inform him. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : Our shops shut at six o’clock. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : None of the businesses — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? I think we have a small education issue on our hands. I will go through this. We need a simpler, better and fairer system governing our trading hours in Western Australia to bring our economy into line with the norm in the twenty-first century. The current trading laws are ridiculous. We all remember the days when people argued ferociously that Australian Football League and Western Australian Football League games should not be played on a Sunday because to allow that to happen would undermine family values. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr G. Woodhams : Why not? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The answer to that is obvious. We are not forcing people to open; we are not forcing people to go to the shops. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Avon’s electorate? Mr M.W. Trenorden : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No? I think the member for Avon should have another look. I am about to inform him. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : Our shops shut at six o’clock. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : None of the businesses — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? I think we have a small education issue on our hands. I will go through this. We need a simpler, better and fairer system governing our trading hours in Western Australia to bring our economy into line with the norm in the twenty-first century. The current trading laws are ridiculous. We all remember the days when people argued ferociously that Australian Football League and Western Australian Football League games should not be played on a Sunday because to allow that to happen would undermine family values. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The answer to that is obvious. We are not forcing people to open; we are not forcing people to go to the shops. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Avon’s electorate? Mr M.W. Trenorden : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No? I think the member for Avon should have another look. I am about to inform him. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : Our shops shut at six o’clock. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : None of the businesses — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? I think we have a small education issue on our hands. I will go through this. We need a simpler, better and fairer system governing our trading hours in Western Australia to bring our economy into line with the norm in the twenty-first century. The current trading laws are ridiculous. We all remember the days when people argued ferociously that Australian Football League and Western Australian Football League games should not be played on a Sunday because to allow that to happen would undermine family values. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr M.W. Trenorden : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No? I think the member for Avon should have another look. I am about to inform him. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : Our shops shut at six o’clock. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : None of the businesses — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? I think we have a small education issue on our hands. I will go through this. We need a simpler, better and fairer system governing our trading hours in Western Australia to bring our economy into line with the norm in the twenty-first century. The current trading laws are ridiculous. We all remember the days when people argued ferociously that Australian Football League and Western Australian Football League games should not be played on a Sunday because to allow that to happen would undermine family values. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No? I think the member for Avon should have another look. I am about to inform him. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : Our shops shut at six o’clock. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : None of the businesses — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? I think we have a small education issue on our hands. I will go through this. We need a simpler, better and fairer system governing our trading hours in Western Australia to bring our economy into line with the norm in the twenty-first century. The current trading laws are ridiculous. We all remember the days when people argued ferociously that Australian Football League and Western Australian Football League games should not be played on a Sunday because to allow that to happen would undermine family values. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr B.J. Grylls : Our shops shut at six o’clock. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : None of the businesses — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? I think we have a small education issue on our hands. I will go through this. We need a simpler, better and fairer system governing our trading hours in Western Australia to bring our economy into line with the norm in the twenty-first century. The current trading laws are ridiculous. We all remember the days when people argued ferociously that Australian Football League and Western Australian Football League games should not be played on a Sunday because to allow that to happen would undermine family values. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? Mr B.J. Grylls : None of the businesses — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? I think we have a small education issue on our hands. I will go through this. We need a simpler, better and fairer system governing our trading hours in Western Australia to bring our economy into line with the norm in the twenty-first century. The current trading laws are ridiculous. We all remember the days when people argued ferociously that Australian Football League and Western Australian Football League games should not be played on a Sunday because to allow that to happen would undermine family values. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr B.J. Grylls : None of the businesses — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? I think we have a small education issue on our hands. I will go through this. We need a simpler, better and fairer system governing our trading hours in Western Australia to bring our economy into line with the norm in the twenty-first century. The current trading laws are ridiculous. We all remember the days when people argued ferociously that Australian Football League and Western Australian Football League games should not be played on a Sunday because to allow that to happen would undermine family values. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Merredin’s electorate? I think we have a small education issue on our hands. I will go through this. We need a simpler, better and fairer system governing our trading hours in Western Australia to bring our economy into line with the norm in the twenty-first century. The current trading laws are ridiculous. We all remember the days when people argued ferociously that Australian Football League and Western Australian Football League games should not be played on a Sunday because to allow that to happen would undermine family values. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr M.W. Trenorden : Not the Dockers! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That response shows the quality of the argument. No-one would seriously make that argument anymore. Do deregulated trading hours operate in the member for Moore’s electorate? Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr G. Snook interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I urge everyone to read Tom Percy’s reflection on the state of the Western Australian Parliamentary Liberal Party today. It is sad. The Leader of the Opposition has an opportunity to go out and boldly state his position. Show a little bit of leadership. Over the past four years, he has boldly stated both positions. In 2004, he boldly stated that he supported deregulated trading hours in Busselton. There were letters to the local newspaper to the effect that he was pushing aside local interests and that he was going to do the Kennett thing. On 15 September 2004, the Bunbury Mail printed a letter that was headed “Buswell’s trading debate perplexing”. The letter states that Vasse Liberal candidate Troy Buswell’s rejection of Labor’s move to deregulate trading was both infuriating and perplexing. The author asked how Mr Buswell could reject weeknight trading in Perth while at the same time condone seven-day trading in Busselton. That is not a bad question. Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr T. Buswell : You want to do the same thing. What is your policy when it comes to the city versus the country? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Regional centres may make their own choice. Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr T. Buswell : That is exactly right. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition is denying the choice in the metropolitan area, is he not? Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr T. Buswell : We will develop and release a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : “We will develop a policy”—my goodness, really? This is the nadir of the state Liberal Party! On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
On 16 September 2004, the Busselton-Margaret Times printed a letter titled “Laughable”. I think it got it right. The letter stated that Troy Buswell, acting as shire president, refused to enter into any debate on the issue. It states that as far as he was concerned, Busselton would have seven-day trading come hell or high water. I ask members to think about this situation: the member for Vasse supported seven day a week trading for Busselton, which is in his own electorate, come hell or high water. What is the Leader of the Opposition’s position on the metropolitan area? Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr T. Buswell : You will find out what our position is in due course. If you think that I am going to respond to you, you better sit down. Ask me a question and I can get up and answer it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : In 2003, as Busselton shire president, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours. In 2005, he joined the Brian Burke-Noel Crichton-Browne campaign to scare people into thinking that extended trading hours would somehow destroy their quality of life. I do not see people running in fear in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney or any other major city in the world. In 2007, the Leader of the Opposition supported extended trading hours and said that he was preparing a discussion paper, which we are still waiting for. In 2008, he has no policy. Does the Leader of the Opposition have a policy on deregulated trading hours? Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr T. Buswell : We will have a policy. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is the Leader of the Opposition’s chance. The state Liberal Party conference is being held this weekend. The Leader of the Opposition should tell the party what the policy will be. He should go to the conference and force himself forward as a leader. Longer shopping hours are good. People should be able to leave work at five o’clock and go and buy stuff at their local shops, as people in the electorates of National Party members have the option of doing. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : At one stage, Mr Buswell likened himself to Jeff Kennett. He was saying that they should just get on with it and push all the red tape aside. He said that a very clear message needed to be sent that if someone wanted to do something and red tape and bureaucracy had become inhibitors to delivering those projects, one just had to roll straight through them. The Leader of the Opposition does not have the courage or strength — Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr T. Buswell : You are not going to dictate to me when we should develop our policies. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Do members know the movie Life of Brian ? In that movie, a meeting is being held when an emergency happens. They run in, and Reg says, “It’s time for action. Let’s pass a motion.” That is where it gets to. National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
National Party members are the champions of regulation. They want to protect people from the dangers of longer shopping hours or the dangers of choice. I will detail the non-metropolitan retail trading hour variations in this state. As I said, longer shopping hours are available to people in those areas. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr M.W. Trenorden : Name one. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the member want me to name his? I will start with the Shire of Denmark. The member for Stirling is not here today. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr M.W. Trenorden : Denmark might be different. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It might be different. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Businesses in the Shire of Denmark can trade from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm every day of the week. The member for that area takes advantage of those extended trading hours with his own business. The liquor outlet owned by La Grange Investments Pty Ltd takes advantage of the extended trading hours in Denmark. Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr B.J. Grylls : It is not his business. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is not his business? Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr B.J. Grylls : No. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Well, maybe he should make some adjustments. Does the Shire of Dundas ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr M.W. Trenorden : I happen to know where the Shire of Dundas is. It is nowhere near Avon, I might add. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the townsite of Northam ring a bell with the member for Avon? Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr M.W. Trenorden : Yes, it does. I happen to live there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Trading hours in the townsite of Northam are totally deregulated. Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr M.W. Trenorden : But they don’t take it up. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will go through them. Who is in the Shire of Gingin? There is total deregulation of trading hours in that shire. Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr G. Snook : So what? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the member say, “So what”? Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr G. Snook : Yes. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Shire of Irwin has prescribed periods daily, including public holidays, from 8.00 am to 9.00 pm. Members opposite should get out and tell their communities that they are a danger to themselves. These shires are in their electorates. Trading hours are deregulated in the Shire of Mingenew. Did the member know that? Does the Shire of Northam ring a bell? Within that shire, trading hours are totally deregulated. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Members can see why National Party members are in touch with their electorates. They come forward with these great policies when their electorates have already made the decision. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Greenough, the Leader of the National Party and the member for Avon to order. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Their local communities have already made the decision. They want total deregulation. In the Shire of Northampton, the townsites of Port Gregory, Kalbarri, Northampton and Horrocks Beach have deregulated trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr R.F. Johnson : What do metropolitan people want? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : They will have that choice when they come to the next election. Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr R.F. Johnson : They told you three years ago that they didn’t want it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for Hillarys is a vehement opponent of longer trading hours. Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr R.F. Johnson : No, I am not. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He is not? There we go. As I said at the start, the current situation is a mess. The system is antiquated and archaic. People are drowning in red tape. Three people in a shop, six people in a shop, 10 people in a shop—all the regulations are different. I can go to Bunnings on Sundays but I cannot go to an electrical store. The Labor Party will have a policy of allowing longer trading hours on weekdays and Sundays as part of the policy position that it takes to the next election. What will the Liberal Party do? We know that the National Party, in defiance of its own constituents, has come up with the crazy notion that extended trading hours should be stopped. What will the Liberal Party do? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition should get a bravery award for having the courage to front the media today after a week spent hidden away in his room. He had his pollster here yesterday, Mr Textor. I got the feeling that Mr Textor might have said to the Leader of the Opposition that he could not keep this up indefinitely and that, sooner or later, he was going to have to speak to them. The Leader of the Opposition has gone out today. I congratulate him on his great strength of character. Now all he needs to do is to have a policy.
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