❓ A parliamentary question regarding a 10-year-old with appendicitis being denied ambulance transport from Bunbury Regional Hospital to Perth. The Minister outlines steps taken to address surgical coverage and communication failures, but avoids directly ordering an investigation or guaranteed ambulance transport.
AnsweredQoN 960Legislative Assembly
QuestionView source ↗
I refer to the case of 10-year-old Maddison Coxall, whose parents were forced to drive her to Perth after she was diagnosed with appendicitis at the Bunbury Regional Hospital because that hospital did not provide a surgeon and it would not arrange ambulance transport for her. I refer specifically to interviews on ABC radio today with the manager of the South West Area Health Service, Mr Michael Moodie, who advised that the matter would not be investigated. He revealed that the lack of surgeons is forcing around five patients a week to travel to Perth for surgery. (1) Will the minister immediately override Mr Moodie and order a comprehensive and independent investigation of Maddison’s case and of the operations of the Bunbury Regional Hospital emergency department before a tragedy occurs? (2) Will the minister override Mr Moodie and order - effective immediately - that the hospital offer ambulance transportation when urgent cases require surgery in Perth? Mr J.A. McGINTY
AnswerView source ↗
(1)-(2) I was pleased to be able to deal with this matter yesterday when I pointed out that, for the first time, within the next few weeks, surgeons will be rostered 24-hours a day, seven days a week who can be called upon to deal with circumstances at the South West Health Campus in Bunbury such as that which confronted the 10-year-old child last week. Such an arrangement has not previously existed. An ad hoc arrangement was in place of a phone around if somebody needed surgery at the Bunbury Hospital in the hope that one of the local surgeons would be available. As I indicated yesterday, three surgeons are rostered on call to provide a seamless cover when needed. Negotiations are reaching the stage that I hope, within the next week or two, will enable me to announce that complete surgical coverage will be available in Bunbury so that events like that which occurred to young Maddison are not repeated there. I repeat: this will be the first time ever that that sort of coverage has been offered at the Bunbury Hospital. That should deal with the substance of the problem. The second issue to which I referred yesterday was that a communication failure occurred at the hospital, and it is one of which I am personally very critical; namely, the doctor in the emergency department did not know that a surgeon was rostered on call who could have been called in to perform the appendix operation on young Maddison on, I think, Tuesday last week. That is not acceptable. Procedures have been reviewed in the hospital to make sure that everyone is aware that an additional person must be consulted before any patient from the Bunbury Hospital is referred to a Perth hospital. The Bunbury Hospital and the South West Area Health Service are treating this matter very seriously. I was pleased with the response I received, although I was quite displeased with the way in which this young patient and her family were treated last week. I made it clear that that was not acceptable. Based on clinical experience, some patients will still need to be referred from the Bunbury Hospital to Perth. I spoke this morning to the south west area executive director, Michael Moodie, and conveyed to him my view, with which he agreed, that, given the nature of the appendicitis suffered by this patient, if she was required to be transferred to Perth, an ambulance should have been provided. I would expect that for my child and he would expect that for his child. It should have occurred on that occasion. Mr J.L. Bradshaw interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Exactly. I have made that point. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him to make sure that ambulances are to be made available from now on? Mr J.A. McGINTY: People can be ordered to do things. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You won’t order an investigation or for ambulances to be used. This has been going on for a year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member for Mitchell’s lips are moving again, are they not? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: This was raised with your predecessor in here in September last year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I have raised the matter with the person concerned. I have indicated to him that in those circumstances an ambulance should be provided. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him? Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy Leader of the Opposition can run around issuing Hitler-like directives all he likes. What I have suggested will occur in future. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: My community wants ambulances. You are the minister - the buck stops there. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Indeed. That is why a fourth surgeon will be employed; internal procedures have been changed to make sure this can never happen again; and I have had discussions directly with the people involved in the south west responsible for delivering health services about ambulances being provided in these circumstances in the future. All of those things have been done. Contact was made this morning with Maddison’s family and a meeting will take place, at which it is intended the Deputy Leader of the Opposition will be present, to make sure these matters are all being dealt with satisfactorily. From time to time in an organisation in which people are involved mistakes will be made. The point I made in answer to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition’s question yesterday - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
(1) Will the minister immediately override Mr Moodie and order a comprehensive and independent investigation of Maddison’s case and of the operations of the Bunbury Regional Hospital emergency department before a tragedy occurs? (2) Will the minister override Mr Moodie and order - effective immediately - that the hospital offer ambulance transportation when urgent cases require surgery in Perth? Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: (1)-(2) I was pleased to be able to deal with this matter yesterday when I pointed out that, for the first time, within the next few weeks, surgeons will be rostered 24-hours a day, seven days a week who can be called upon to deal with circumstances at the South West Health Campus in Bunbury such as that which confronted the 10-year-old child last week. Such an arrangement has not previously existed. An ad hoc arrangement was in place of a phone around if somebody needed surgery at the Bunbury Hospital in the hope that one of the local surgeons would be available. As I indicated yesterday, three surgeons are rostered on call to provide a seamless cover when needed. Negotiations are reaching the stage that I hope, within the next week or two, will enable me to announce that complete surgical coverage will be available in Bunbury so that events like that which occurred to young Maddison are not repeated there. I repeat: this will be the first time ever that that sort of coverage has been offered at the Bunbury Hospital. That should deal with the substance of the problem. The second issue to which I referred yesterday was that a communication failure occurred at the hospital, and it is one of which I am personally very critical; namely, the doctor in the emergency department did not know that a surgeon was rostered on call who could have been called in to perform the appendix operation on young Maddison on, I think, Tuesday last week. That is not acceptable. Procedures have been reviewed in the hospital to make sure that everyone is aware that an additional person must be consulted before any patient from the Bunbury Hospital is referred to a Perth hospital. The Bunbury Hospital and the South West Area Health Service are treating this matter very seriously. I was pleased with the response I received, although I was quite displeased with the way in which this young patient and her family were treated last week. I made it clear that that was not acceptable. Based on clinical experience, some patients will still need to be referred from the Bunbury Hospital to Perth. I spoke this morning to the south west area executive director, Michael Moodie, and conveyed to him my view, with which he agreed, that, given the nature of the appendicitis suffered by this patient, if she was required to be transferred to Perth, an ambulance should have been provided. I would expect that for my child and he would expect that for his child. It should have occurred on that occasion. Mr J.L. Bradshaw interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Exactly. I have made that point. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him to make sure that ambulances are to be made available from now on? Mr J.A. McGINTY: People can be ordered to do things. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You won’t order an investigation or for ambulances to be used. This has been going on for a year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member for Mitchell’s lips are moving again, are they not? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: This was raised with your predecessor in here in September last year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I have raised the matter with the person concerned. I have indicated to him that in those circumstances an ambulance should be provided. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him? Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy Leader of the Opposition can run around issuing Hitler-like directives all he likes. What I have suggested will occur in future. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: My community wants ambulances. You are the minister - the buck stops there. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Indeed. That is why a fourth surgeon will be employed; internal procedures have been changed to make sure this can never happen again; and I have had discussions directly with the people involved in the south west responsible for delivering health services about ambulances being provided in these circumstances in the future. All of those things have been done. Contact was made this morning with Maddison’s family and a meeting will take place, at which it is intended the Deputy Leader of the Opposition will be present, to make sure these matters are all being dealt with satisfactorily. From time to time in an organisation in which people are involved mistakes will be made. The point I made in answer to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition’s question yesterday - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
(2) Will the minister override Mr Moodie and order - effective immediately - that the hospital offer ambulance transportation when urgent cases require surgery in Perth? Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: (1)-(2) I was pleased to be able to deal with this matter yesterday when I pointed out that, for the first time, within the next few weeks, surgeons will be rostered 24-hours a day, seven days a week who can be called upon to deal with circumstances at the South West Health Campus in Bunbury such as that which confronted the 10-year-old child last week. Such an arrangement has not previously existed. An ad hoc arrangement was in place of a phone around if somebody needed surgery at the Bunbury Hospital in the hope that one of the local surgeons would be available. As I indicated yesterday, three surgeons are rostered on call to provide a seamless cover when needed. Negotiations are reaching the stage that I hope, within the next week or two, will enable me to announce that complete surgical coverage will be available in Bunbury so that events like that which occurred to young Maddison are not repeated there. I repeat: this will be the first time ever that that sort of coverage has been offered at the Bunbury Hospital. That should deal with the substance of the problem. The second issue to which I referred yesterday was that a communication failure occurred at the hospital, and it is one of which I am personally very critical; namely, the doctor in the emergency department did not know that a surgeon was rostered on call who could have been called in to perform the appendix operation on young Maddison on, I think, Tuesday last week. That is not acceptable. Procedures have been reviewed in the hospital to make sure that everyone is aware that an additional person must be consulted before any patient from the Bunbury Hospital is referred to a Perth hospital. The Bunbury Hospital and the South West Area Health Service are treating this matter very seriously. I was pleased with the response I received, although I was quite displeased with the way in which this young patient and her family were treated last week. I made it clear that that was not acceptable. Based on clinical experience, some patients will still need to be referred from the Bunbury Hospital to Perth. I spoke this morning to the south west area executive director, Michael Moodie, and conveyed to him my view, with which he agreed, that, given the nature of the appendicitis suffered by this patient, if she was required to be transferred to Perth, an ambulance should have been provided. I would expect that for my child and he would expect that for his child. It should have occurred on that occasion. Mr J.L. Bradshaw interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Exactly. I have made that point. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him to make sure that ambulances are to be made available from now on? Mr J.A. McGINTY: People can be ordered to do things. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You won’t order an investigation or for ambulances to be used. This has been going on for a year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member for Mitchell’s lips are moving again, are they not? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: This was raised with your predecessor in here in September last year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I have raised the matter with the person concerned. I have indicated to him that in those circumstances an ambulance should be provided. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him? Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy Leader of the Opposition can run around issuing Hitler-like directives all he likes. What I have suggested will occur in future. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: My community wants ambulances. You are the minister - the buck stops there. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Indeed. That is why a fourth surgeon will be employed; internal procedures have been changed to make sure this can never happen again; and I have had discussions directly with the people involved in the south west responsible for delivering health services about ambulances being provided in these circumstances in the future. All of those things have been done. Contact was made this morning with Maddison’s family and a meeting will take place, at which it is intended the Deputy Leader of the Opposition will be present, to make sure these matters are all being dealt with satisfactorily. From time to time in an organisation in which people are involved mistakes will be made. The point I made in answer to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition’s question yesterday - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: (1)-(2) I was pleased to be able to deal with this matter yesterday when I pointed out that, for the first time, within the next few weeks, surgeons will be rostered 24-hours a day, seven days a week who can be called upon to deal with circumstances at the South West Health Campus in Bunbury such as that which confronted the 10-year-old child last week. Such an arrangement has not previously existed. An ad hoc arrangement was in place of a phone around if somebody needed surgery at the Bunbury Hospital in the hope that one of the local surgeons would be available. As I indicated yesterday, three surgeons are rostered on call to provide a seamless cover when needed. Negotiations are reaching the stage that I hope, within the next week or two, will enable me to announce that complete surgical coverage will be available in Bunbury so that events like that which occurred to young Maddison are not repeated there. I repeat: this will be the first time ever that that sort of coverage has been offered at the Bunbury Hospital. That should deal with the substance of the problem. The second issue to which I referred yesterday was that a communication failure occurred at the hospital, and it is one of which I am personally very critical; namely, the doctor in the emergency department did not know that a surgeon was rostered on call who could have been called in to perform the appendix operation on young Maddison on, I think, Tuesday last week. That is not acceptable. Procedures have been reviewed in the hospital to make sure that everyone is aware that an additional person must be consulted before any patient from the Bunbury Hospital is referred to a Perth hospital. The Bunbury Hospital and the South West Area Health Service are treating this matter very seriously. I was pleased with the response I received, although I was quite displeased with the way in which this young patient and her family were treated last week. I made it clear that that was not acceptable. Based on clinical experience, some patients will still need to be referred from the Bunbury Hospital to Perth. I spoke this morning to the south west area executive director, Michael Moodie, and conveyed to him my view, with which he agreed, that, given the nature of the appendicitis suffered by this patient, if she was required to be transferred to Perth, an ambulance should have been provided. I would expect that for my child and he would expect that for his child. It should have occurred on that occasion. Mr J.L. Bradshaw interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Exactly. I have made that point. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him to make sure that ambulances are to be made available from now on? Mr J.A. McGINTY: People can be ordered to do things. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You won’t order an investigation or for ambulances to be used. This has been going on for a year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member for Mitchell’s lips are moving again, are they not? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: This was raised with your predecessor in here in September last year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I have raised the matter with the person concerned. I have indicated to him that in those circumstances an ambulance should be provided. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him? Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy Leader of the Opposition can run around issuing Hitler-like directives all he likes. What I have suggested will occur in future. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: My community wants ambulances. You are the minister - the buck stops there. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Indeed. That is why a fourth surgeon will be employed; internal procedures have been changed to make sure this can never happen again; and I have had discussions directly with the people involved in the south west responsible for delivering health services about ambulances being provided in these circumstances in the future. All of those things have been done. Contact was made this morning with Maddison’s family and a meeting will take place, at which it is intended the Deputy Leader of the Opposition will be present, to make sure these matters are all being dealt with satisfactorily. From time to time in an organisation in which people are involved mistakes will be made. The point I made in answer to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition’s question yesterday - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
(1)-(2) I was pleased to be able to deal with this matter yesterday when I pointed out that, for the first time, within the next few weeks, surgeons will be rostered 24-hours a day, seven days a week who can be called upon to deal with circumstances at the South West Health Campus in Bunbury such as that which confronted the 10-year-old child last week. Such an arrangement has not previously existed. An ad hoc arrangement was in place of a phone around if somebody needed surgery at the Bunbury Hospital in the hope that one of the local surgeons would be available. As I indicated yesterday, three surgeons are rostered on call to provide a seamless cover when needed. Negotiations are reaching the stage that I hope, within the next week or two, will enable me to announce that complete surgical coverage will be available in Bunbury so that events like that which occurred to young Maddison are not repeated there. I repeat: this will be the first time ever that that sort of coverage has been offered at the Bunbury Hospital. That should deal with the substance of the problem. The second issue to which I referred yesterday was that a communication failure occurred at the hospital, and it is one of which I am personally very critical; namely, the doctor in the emergency department did not know that a surgeon was rostered on call who could have been called in to perform the appendix operation on young Maddison on, I think, Tuesday last week. That is not acceptable. Procedures have been reviewed in the hospital to make sure that everyone is aware that an additional person must be consulted before any patient from the Bunbury Hospital is referred to a Perth hospital. The Bunbury Hospital and the South West Area Health Service are treating this matter very seriously. I was pleased with the response I received, although I was quite displeased with the way in which this young patient and her family were treated last week. I made it clear that that was not acceptable. Based on clinical experience, some patients will still need to be referred from the Bunbury Hospital to Perth. I spoke this morning to the south west area executive director, Michael Moodie, and conveyed to him my view, with which he agreed, that, given the nature of the appendicitis suffered by this patient, if she was required to be transferred to Perth, an ambulance should have been provided. I would expect that for my child and he would expect that for his child. It should have occurred on that occasion. Mr J.L. Bradshaw interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Exactly. I have made that point. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him to make sure that ambulances are to be made available from now on? Mr J.A. McGINTY: People can be ordered to do things. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You won’t order an investigation or for ambulances to be used. This has been going on for a year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member for Mitchell’s lips are moving again, are they not? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: This was raised with your predecessor in here in September last year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I have raised the matter with the person concerned. I have indicated to him that in those circumstances an ambulance should be provided. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him? Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy Leader of the Opposition can run around issuing Hitler-like directives all he likes. What I have suggested will occur in future. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: My community wants ambulances. You are the minister - the buck stops there. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Indeed. That is why a fourth surgeon will be employed; internal procedures have been changed to make sure this can never happen again; and I have had discussions directly with the people involved in the south west responsible for delivering health services about ambulances being provided in these circumstances in the future. All of those things have been done. Contact was made this morning with Maddison’s family and a meeting will take place, at which it is intended the Deputy Leader of the Opposition will be present, to make sure these matters are all being dealt with satisfactorily. From time to time in an organisation in which people are involved mistakes will be made. The point I made in answer to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition’s question yesterday - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
Mr J.A. McGINTY: Exactly. I have made that point. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him to make sure that ambulances are to be made available from now on? Mr J.A. McGINTY: People can be ordered to do things. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You won’t order an investigation or for ambulances to be used. This has been going on for a year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member for Mitchell’s lips are moving again, are they not? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: This was raised with your predecessor in here in September last year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I have raised the matter with the person concerned. I have indicated to him that in those circumstances an ambulance should be provided. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him? Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy Leader of the Opposition can run around issuing Hitler-like directives all he likes. What I have suggested will occur in future. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: My community wants ambulances. You are the minister - the buck stops there. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Indeed. That is why a fourth surgeon will be employed; internal procedures have been changed to make sure this can never happen again; and I have had discussions directly with the people involved in the south west responsible for delivering health services about ambulances being provided in these circumstances in the future. All of those things have been done. Contact was made this morning with Maddison’s family and a meeting will take place, at which it is intended the Deputy Leader of the Opposition will be present, to make sure these matters are all being dealt with satisfactorily. From time to time in an organisation in which people are involved mistakes will be made. The point I made in answer to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition’s question yesterday - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him to make sure that ambulances are to be made available from now on? Mr J.A. McGINTY: People can be ordered to do things. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You won’t order an investigation or for ambulances to be used. This has been going on for a year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member for Mitchell’s lips are moving again, are they not? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: This was raised with your predecessor in here in September last year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I have raised the matter with the person concerned. I have indicated to him that in those circumstances an ambulance should be provided. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him? Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy Leader of the Opposition can run around issuing Hitler-like directives all he likes. What I have suggested will occur in future. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: My community wants ambulances. You are the minister - the buck stops there. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Indeed. That is why a fourth surgeon will be employed; internal procedures have been changed to make sure this can never happen again; and I have had discussions directly with the people involved in the south west responsible for delivering health services about ambulances being provided in these circumstances in the future. All of those things have been done. Contact was made this morning with Maddison’s family and a meeting will take place, at which it is intended the Deputy Leader of the Opposition will be present, to make sure these matters are all being dealt with satisfactorily. From time to time in an organisation in which people are involved mistakes will be made. The point I made in answer to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition’s question yesterday - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
Mr J.A. McGINTY: People can be ordered to do things. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You won’t order an investigation or for ambulances to be used. This has been going on for a year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member for Mitchell’s lips are moving again, are they not? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: This was raised with your predecessor in here in September last year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I have raised the matter with the person concerned. I have indicated to him that in those circumstances an ambulance should be provided. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him? Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy Leader of the Opposition can run around issuing Hitler-like directives all he likes. What I have suggested will occur in future. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: My community wants ambulances. You are the minister - the buck stops there. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Indeed. That is why a fourth surgeon will be employed; internal procedures have been changed to make sure this can never happen again; and I have had discussions directly with the people involved in the south west responsible for delivering health services about ambulances being provided in these circumstances in the future. All of those things have been done. Contact was made this morning with Maddison’s family and a meeting will take place, at which it is intended the Deputy Leader of the Opposition will be present, to make sure these matters are all being dealt with satisfactorily. From time to time in an organisation in which people are involved mistakes will be made. The point I made in answer to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition’s question yesterday - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You won’t order an investigation or for ambulances to be used. This has been going on for a year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member for Mitchell’s lips are moving again, are they not? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: This was raised with your predecessor in here in September last year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I have raised the matter with the person concerned. I have indicated to him that in those circumstances an ambulance should be provided. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him? Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy Leader of the Opposition can run around issuing Hitler-like directives all he likes. What I have suggested will occur in future. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: My community wants ambulances. You are the minister - the buck stops there. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Indeed. That is why a fourth surgeon will be employed; internal procedures have been changed to make sure this can never happen again; and I have had discussions directly with the people involved in the south west responsible for delivering health services about ambulances being provided in these circumstances in the future. All of those things have been done. Contact was made this morning with Maddison’s family and a meeting will take place, at which it is intended the Deputy Leader of the Opposition will be present, to make sure these matters are all being dealt with satisfactorily. From time to time in an organisation in which people are involved mistakes will be made. The point I made in answer to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition’s question yesterday - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member for Mitchell’s lips are moving again, are they not? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: This was raised with your predecessor in here in September last year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I have raised the matter with the person concerned. I have indicated to him that in those circumstances an ambulance should be provided. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him? Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy Leader of the Opposition can run around issuing Hitler-like directives all he likes. What I have suggested will occur in future. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: My community wants ambulances. You are the minister - the buck stops there. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Indeed. That is why a fourth surgeon will be employed; internal procedures have been changed to make sure this can never happen again; and I have had discussions directly with the people involved in the south west responsible for delivering health services about ambulances being provided in these circumstances in the future. All of those things have been done. Contact was made this morning with Maddison’s family and a meeting will take place, at which it is intended the Deputy Leader of the Opposition will be present, to make sure these matters are all being dealt with satisfactorily. From time to time in an organisation in which people are involved mistakes will be made. The point I made in answer to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition’s question yesterday - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: This was raised with your predecessor in here in September last year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I have raised the matter with the person concerned. I have indicated to him that in those circumstances an ambulance should be provided. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him? Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy Leader of the Opposition can run around issuing Hitler-like directives all he likes. What I have suggested will occur in future. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: My community wants ambulances. You are the minister - the buck stops there. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Indeed. That is why a fourth surgeon will be employed; internal procedures have been changed to make sure this can never happen again; and I have had discussions directly with the people involved in the south west responsible for delivering health services about ambulances being provided in these circumstances in the future. All of those things have been done. Contact was made this morning with Maddison’s family and a meeting will take place, at which it is intended the Deputy Leader of the Opposition will be present, to make sure these matters are all being dealt with satisfactorily. From time to time in an organisation in which people are involved mistakes will be made. The point I made in answer to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition’s question yesterday - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
Mr J.A. McGINTY: I have raised the matter with the person concerned. I have indicated to him that in those circumstances an ambulance should be provided. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him? Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy Leader of the Opposition can run around issuing Hitler-like directives all he likes. What I have suggested will occur in future. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: My community wants ambulances. You are the minister - the buck stops there. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Indeed. That is why a fourth surgeon will be employed; internal procedures have been changed to make sure this can never happen again; and I have had discussions directly with the people involved in the south west responsible for delivering health services about ambulances being provided in these circumstances in the future. All of those things have been done. Contact was made this morning with Maddison’s family and a meeting will take place, at which it is intended the Deputy Leader of the Opposition will be present, to make sure these matters are all being dealt with satisfactorily. From time to time in an organisation in which people are involved mistakes will be made. The point I made in answer to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition’s question yesterday - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him? Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy Leader of the Opposition can run around issuing Hitler-like directives all he likes. What I have suggested will occur in future. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: My community wants ambulances. You are the minister - the buck stops there. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Indeed. That is why a fourth surgeon will be employed; internal procedures have been changed to make sure this can never happen again; and I have had discussions directly with the people involved in the south west responsible for delivering health services about ambulances being provided in these circumstances in the future. All of those things have been done. Contact was made this morning with Maddison’s family and a meeting will take place, at which it is intended the Deputy Leader of the Opposition will be present, to make sure these matters are all being dealt with satisfactorily. From time to time in an organisation in which people are involved mistakes will be made. The point I made in answer to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition’s question yesterday - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy Leader of the Opposition can run around issuing Hitler-like directives all he likes. What I have suggested will occur in future. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: My community wants ambulances. You are the minister - the buck stops there. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Indeed. That is why a fourth surgeon will be employed; internal procedures have been changed to make sure this can never happen again; and I have had discussions directly with the people involved in the south west responsible for delivering health services about ambulances being provided in these circumstances in the future. All of those things have been done. Contact was made this morning with Maddison’s family and a meeting will take place, at which it is intended the Deputy Leader of the Opposition will be present, to make sure these matters are all being dealt with satisfactorily. From time to time in an organisation in which people are involved mistakes will be made. The point I made in answer to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition’s question yesterday - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: My community wants ambulances. You are the minister - the buck stops there. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Indeed. That is why a fourth surgeon will be employed; internal procedures have been changed to make sure this can never happen again; and I have had discussions directly with the people involved in the south west responsible for delivering health services about ambulances being provided in these circumstances in the future. All of those things have been done. Contact was made this morning with Maddison’s family and a meeting will take place, at which it is intended the Deputy Leader of the Opposition will be present, to make sure these matters are all being dealt with satisfactorily. From time to time in an organisation in which people are involved mistakes will be made. The point I made in answer to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition’s question yesterday - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
Mr J.A. McGINTY: Indeed. That is why a fourth surgeon will be employed; internal procedures have been changed to make sure this can never happen again; and I have had discussions directly with the people involved in the south west responsible for delivering health services about ambulances being provided in these circumstances in the future. All of those things have been done. Contact was made this morning with Maddison’s family and a meeting will take place, at which it is intended the Deputy Leader of the Opposition will be present, to make sure these matters are all being dealt with satisfactorily. From time to time in an organisation in which people are involved mistakes will be made. The point I made in answer to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition’s question yesterday - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
From time to time in an organisation in which people are involved mistakes will be made. The point I made in answer to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition’s question yesterday - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
(1) Will the minister immediately override Mr Moodie and order a comprehensive and independent investigation of Maddison’s case and of the operations of the Bunbury Regional Hospital emergency department before a tragedy occurs? (2) Will the minister override Mr Moodie and order - effective immediately - that the hospital offer ambulance transportation when urgent cases require surgery in Perth? Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: (1)-(2) I was pleased to be able to deal with this matter yesterday when I pointed out that, for the first time, within the next few weeks, surgeons will be rostered 24-hours a day, seven days a week who can be called upon to deal with circumstances at the South West Health Campus in Bunbury such as that which confronted the 10-year-old child last week. Such an arrangement has not previously existed. An ad hoc arrangement was in place of a phone around if somebody needed surgery at the Bunbury Hospital in the hope that one of the local surgeons would be available. As I indicated yesterday, three surgeons are rostered on call to provide a seamless cover when needed. Negotiations are reaching the stage that I hope, within the next week or two, will enable me to announce that complete surgical coverage will be available in Bunbury so that events like that which occurred to young Maddison are not repeated there. I repeat: this will be the first time ever that that sort of coverage has been offered at the Bunbury Hospital. That should deal with the substance of the problem. The second issue to which I referred yesterday was that a communication failure occurred at the hospital, and it is one of which I am personally very critical; namely, the doctor in the emergency department did not know that a surgeon was rostered on call who could have been called in to perform the appendix operation on young Maddison on, I think, Tuesday last week. That is not acceptable. Procedures have been reviewed in the hospital to make sure that everyone is aware that an additional person must be consulted before any patient from the Bunbury Hospital is referred to a Perth hospital. The Bunbury Hospital and the South West Area Health Service are treating this matter very seriously. I was pleased with the response I received, although I was quite displeased with the way in which this young patient and her family were treated last week. I made it clear that that was not acceptable. Based on clinical experience, some patients will still need to be referred from the Bunbury Hospital to Perth. I spoke this morning to the south west area executive director, Michael Moodie, and conveyed to him my view, with which he agreed, that, given the nature of the appendicitis suffered by this patient, if she was required to be transferred to Perth, an ambulance should have been provided. I would expect that for my child and he would expect that for his child. It should have occurred on that occasion. Mr J.L. Bradshaw interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Exactly. I have made that point. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him to make sure that ambulances are to be made available from now on? Mr J.A. McGINTY: People can be ordered to do things. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You won’t order an investigation or for ambulances to be used. This has been going on for a year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member for Mitchell’s lips are moving again, are they not? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: This was raised with your predecessor in here in September last year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I have raised the matter with the person concerned. I have indicated to him that in those circumstances an ambulance should be provided. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him? Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy Leader of the Opposition can run around issuing Hitler-like directives all he likes. What I have suggested will occur in future. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: My community wants ambulances. You are the minister - the buck stops there. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Indeed. That is why a fourth surgeon will be employed; internal procedures have been changed to make sure this can never happen again; and I have had discussions directly with the people involved in the south west responsible for delivering health services about ambulances being provided in these circumstances in the future. All of those things have been done. Contact was made this morning with Maddison’s family and a meeting will take place, at which it is intended the Deputy Leader of the Opposition will be present, to make sure these matters are all being dealt with satisfactorily. From time to time in an organisation in which people are involved mistakes will be made. The point I made in answer to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition’s question yesterday - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
(2) Will the minister override Mr Moodie and order - effective immediately - that the hospital offer ambulance transportation when urgent cases require surgery in Perth? Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: (1)-(2) I was pleased to be able to deal with this matter yesterday when I pointed out that, for the first time, within the next few weeks, surgeons will be rostered 24-hours a day, seven days a week who can be called upon to deal with circumstances at the South West Health Campus in Bunbury such as that which confronted the 10-year-old child last week. Such an arrangement has not previously existed. An ad hoc arrangement was in place of a phone around if somebody needed surgery at the Bunbury Hospital in the hope that one of the local surgeons would be available. As I indicated yesterday, three surgeons are rostered on call to provide a seamless cover when needed. Negotiations are reaching the stage that I hope, within the next week or two, will enable me to announce that complete surgical coverage will be available in Bunbury so that events like that which occurred to young Maddison are not repeated there. I repeat: this will be the first time ever that that sort of coverage has been offered at the Bunbury Hospital. That should deal with the substance of the problem. The second issue to which I referred yesterday was that a communication failure occurred at the hospital, and it is one of which I am personally very critical; namely, the doctor in the emergency department did not know that a surgeon was rostered on call who could have been called in to perform the appendix operation on young Maddison on, I think, Tuesday last week. That is not acceptable. Procedures have been reviewed in the hospital to make sure that everyone is aware that an additional person must be consulted before any patient from the Bunbury Hospital is referred to a Perth hospital. The Bunbury Hospital and the South West Area Health Service are treating this matter very seriously. I was pleased with the response I received, although I was quite displeased with the way in which this young patient and her family were treated last week. I made it clear that that was not acceptable. Based on clinical experience, some patients will still need to be referred from the Bunbury Hospital to Perth. I spoke this morning to the south west area executive director, Michael Moodie, and conveyed to him my view, with which he agreed, that, given the nature of the appendicitis suffered by this patient, if she was required to be transferred to Perth, an ambulance should have been provided. I would expect that for my child and he would expect that for his child. It should have occurred on that occasion. Mr J.L. Bradshaw interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Exactly. I have made that point. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him to make sure that ambulances are to be made available from now on? Mr J.A. McGINTY: People can be ordered to do things. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You won’t order an investigation or for ambulances to be used. This has been going on for a year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member for Mitchell’s lips are moving again, are they not? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: This was raised with your predecessor in here in September last year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I have raised the matter with the person concerned. I have indicated to him that in those circumstances an ambulance should be provided. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him? Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy Leader of the Opposition can run around issuing Hitler-like directives all he likes. What I have suggested will occur in future. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: My community wants ambulances. You are the minister - the buck stops there. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Indeed. That is why a fourth surgeon will be employed; internal procedures have been changed to make sure this can never happen again; and I have had discussions directly with the people involved in the south west responsible for delivering health services about ambulances being provided in these circumstances in the future. All of those things have been done. Contact was made this morning with Maddison’s family and a meeting will take place, at which it is intended the Deputy Leader of the Opposition will be present, to make sure these matters are all being dealt with satisfactorily. From time to time in an organisation in which people are involved mistakes will be made. The point I made in answer to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition’s question yesterday - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: (1)-(2) I was pleased to be able to deal with this matter yesterday when I pointed out that, for the first time, within the next few weeks, surgeons will be rostered 24-hours a day, seven days a week who can be called upon to deal with circumstances at the South West Health Campus in Bunbury such as that which confronted the 10-year-old child last week. Such an arrangement has not previously existed. An ad hoc arrangement was in place of a phone around if somebody needed surgery at the Bunbury Hospital in the hope that one of the local surgeons would be available. As I indicated yesterday, three surgeons are rostered on call to provide a seamless cover when needed. Negotiations are reaching the stage that I hope, within the next week or two, will enable me to announce that complete surgical coverage will be available in Bunbury so that events like that which occurred to young Maddison are not repeated there. I repeat: this will be the first time ever that that sort of coverage has been offered at the Bunbury Hospital. That should deal with the substance of the problem. The second issue to which I referred yesterday was that a communication failure occurred at the hospital, and it is one of which I am personally very critical; namely, the doctor in the emergency department did not know that a surgeon was rostered on call who could have been called in to perform the appendix operation on young Maddison on, I think, Tuesday last week. That is not acceptable. Procedures have been reviewed in the hospital to make sure that everyone is aware that an additional person must be consulted before any patient from the Bunbury Hospital is referred to a Perth hospital. The Bunbury Hospital and the South West Area Health Service are treating this matter very seriously. I was pleased with the response I received, although I was quite displeased with the way in which this young patient and her family were treated last week. I made it clear that that was not acceptable. Based on clinical experience, some patients will still need to be referred from the Bunbury Hospital to Perth. I spoke this morning to the south west area executive director, Michael Moodie, and conveyed to him my view, with which he agreed, that, given the nature of the appendicitis suffered by this patient, if she was required to be transferred to Perth, an ambulance should have been provided. I would expect that for my child and he would expect that for his child. It should have occurred on that occasion. Mr J.L. Bradshaw interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Exactly. I have made that point. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him to make sure that ambulances are to be made available from now on? Mr J.A. McGINTY: People can be ordered to do things. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You won’t order an investigation or for ambulances to be used. This has been going on for a year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member for Mitchell’s lips are moving again, are they not? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: This was raised with your predecessor in here in September last year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I have raised the matter with the person concerned. I have indicated to him that in those circumstances an ambulance should be provided. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him? Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy Leader of the Opposition can run around issuing Hitler-like directives all he likes. What I have suggested will occur in future. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: My community wants ambulances. You are the minister - the buck stops there. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Indeed. That is why a fourth surgeon will be employed; internal procedures have been changed to make sure this can never happen again; and I have had discussions directly with the people involved in the south west responsible for delivering health services about ambulances being provided in these circumstances in the future. All of those things have been done. Contact was made this morning with Maddison’s family and a meeting will take place, at which it is intended the Deputy Leader of the Opposition will be present, to make sure these matters are all being dealt with satisfactorily. From time to time in an organisation in which people are involved mistakes will be made. The point I made in answer to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition’s question yesterday - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
(1)-(2) I was pleased to be able to deal with this matter yesterday when I pointed out that, for the first time, within the next few weeks, surgeons will be rostered 24-hours a day, seven days a week who can be called upon to deal with circumstances at the South West Health Campus in Bunbury such as that which confronted the 10-year-old child last week. Such an arrangement has not previously existed. An ad hoc arrangement was in place of a phone around if somebody needed surgery at the Bunbury Hospital in the hope that one of the local surgeons would be available. As I indicated yesterday, three surgeons are rostered on call to provide a seamless cover when needed. Negotiations are reaching the stage that I hope, within the next week or two, will enable me to announce that complete surgical coverage will be available in Bunbury so that events like that which occurred to young Maddison are not repeated there. I repeat: this will be the first time ever that that sort of coverage has been offered at the Bunbury Hospital. That should deal with the substance of the problem. The second issue to which I referred yesterday was that a communication failure occurred at the hospital, and it is one of which I am personally very critical; namely, the doctor in the emergency department did not know that a surgeon was rostered on call who could have been called in to perform the appendix operation on young Maddison on, I think, Tuesday last week. That is not acceptable. Procedures have been reviewed in the hospital to make sure that everyone is aware that an additional person must be consulted before any patient from the Bunbury Hospital is referred to a Perth hospital. The Bunbury Hospital and the South West Area Health Service are treating this matter very seriously. I was pleased with the response I received, although I was quite displeased with the way in which this young patient and her family were treated last week. I made it clear that that was not acceptable. Based on clinical experience, some patients will still need to be referred from the Bunbury Hospital to Perth. I spoke this morning to the south west area executive director, Michael Moodie, and conveyed to him my view, with which he agreed, that, given the nature of the appendicitis suffered by this patient, if she was required to be transferred to Perth, an ambulance should have been provided. I would expect that for my child and he would expect that for his child. It should have occurred on that occasion. Mr J.L. Bradshaw interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Exactly. I have made that point. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him to make sure that ambulances are to be made available from now on? Mr J.A. McGINTY: People can be ordered to do things. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You won’t order an investigation or for ambulances to be used. This has been going on for a year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member for Mitchell’s lips are moving again, are they not? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: This was raised with your predecessor in here in September last year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I have raised the matter with the person concerned. I have indicated to him that in those circumstances an ambulance should be provided. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him? Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy Leader of the Opposition can run around issuing Hitler-like directives all he likes. What I have suggested will occur in future. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: My community wants ambulances. You are the minister - the buck stops there. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Indeed. That is why a fourth surgeon will be employed; internal procedures have been changed to make sure this can never happen again; and I have had discussions directly with the people involved in the south west responsible for delivering health services about ambulances being provided in these circumstances in the future. All of those things have been done. Contact was made this morning with Maddison’s family and a meeting will take place, at which it is intended the Deputy Leader of the Opposition will be present, to make sure these matters are all being dealt with satisfactorily. From time to time in an organisation in which people are involved mistakes will be made. The point I made in answer to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition’s question yesterday - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
Mr J.A. McGINTY: Exactly. I have made that point. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him to make sure that ambulances are to be made available from now on? Mr J.A. McGINTY: People can be ordered to do things. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You won’t order an investigation or for ambulances to be used. This has been going on for a year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member for Mitchell’s lips are moving again, are they not? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: This was raised with your predecessor in here in September last year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I have raised the matter with the person concerned. I have indicated to him that in those circumstances an ambulance should be provided. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him? Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy Leader of the Opposition can run around issuing Hitler-like directives all he likes. What I have suggested will occur in future. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: My community wants ambulances. You are the minister - the buck stops there. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Indeed. That is why a fourth surgeon will be employed; internal procedures have been changed to make sure this can never happen again; and I have had discussions directly with the people involved in the south west responsible for delivering health services about ambulances being provided in these circumstances in the future. All of those things have been done. Contact was made this morning with Maddison’s family and a meeting will take place, at which it is intended the Deputy Leader of the Opposition will be present, to make sure these matters are all being dealt with satisfactorily. From time to time in an organisation in which people are involved mistakes will be made. The point I made in answer to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition’s question yesterday - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him to make sure that ambulances are to be made available from now on? Mr J.A. McGINTY: People can be ordered to do things. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You won’t order an investigation or for ambulances to be used. This has been going on for a year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member for Mitchell’s lips are moving again, are they not? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: This was raised with your predecessor in here in September last year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I have raised the matter with the person concerned. I have indicated to him that in those circumstances an ambulance should be provided. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him? Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy Leader of the Opposition can run around issuing Hitler-like directives all he likes. What I have suggested will occur in future. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: My community wants ambulances. You are the minister - the buck stops there. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Indeed. That is why a fourth surgeon will be employed; internal procedures have been changed to make sure this can never happen again; and I have had discussions directly with the people involved in the south west responsible for delivering health services about ambulances being provided in these circumstances in the future. All of those things have been done. Contact was made this morning with Maddison’s family and a meeting will take place, at which it is intended the Deputy Leader of the Opposition will be present, to make sure these matters are all being dealt with satisfactorily. From time to time in an organisation in which people are involved mistakes will be made. The point I made in answer to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition’s question yesterday - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
Mr J.A. McGINTY: People can be ordered to do things. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You won’t order an investigation or for ambulances to be used. This has been going on for a year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member for Mitchell’s lips are moving again, are they not? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: This was raised with your predecessor in here in September last year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I have raised the matter with the person concerned. I have indicated to him that in those circumstances an ambulance should be provided. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him? Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy Leader of the Opposition can run around issuing Hitler-like directives all he likes. What I have suggested will occur in future. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: My community wants ambulances. You are the minister - the buck stops there. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Indeed. That is why a fourth surgeon will be employed; internal procedures have been changed to make sure this can never happen again; and I have had discussions directly with the people involved in the south west responsible for delivering health services about ambulances being provided in these circumstances in the future. All of those things have been done. Contact was made this morning with Maddison’s family and a meeting will take place, at which it is intended the Deputy Leader of the Opposition will be present, to make sure these matters are all being dealt with satisfactorily. From time to time in an organisation in which people are involved mistakes will be made. The point I made in answer to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition’s question yesterday - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You won’t order an investigation or for ambulances to be used. This has been going on for a year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member for Mitchell’s lips are moving again, are they not? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: This was raised with your predecessor in here in September last year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I have raised the matter with the person concerned. I have indicated to him that in those circumstances an ambulance should be provided. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him? Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy Leader of the Opposition can run around issuing Hitler-like directives all he likes. What I have suggested will occur in future. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: My community wants ambulances. You are the minister - the buck stops there. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Indeed. That is why a fourth surgeon will be employed; internal procedures have been changed to make sure this can never happen again; and I have had discussions directly with the people involved in the south west responsible for delivering health services about ambulances being provided in these circumstances in the future. All of those things have been done. Contact was made this morning with Maddison’s family and a meeting will take place, at which it is intended the Deputy Leader of the Opposition will be present, to make sure these matters are all being dealt with satisfactorily. From time to time in an organisation in which people are involved mistakes will be made. The point I made in answer to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition’s question yesterday - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member for Mitchell’s lips are moving again, are they not? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: This was raised with your predecessor in here in September last year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I have raised the matter with the person concerned. I have indicated to him that in those circumstances an ambulance should be provided. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him? Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy Leader of the Opposition can run around issuing Hitler-like directives all he likes. What I have suggested will occur in future. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: My community wants ambulances. You are the minister - the buck stops there. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Indeed. That is why a fourth surgeon will be employed; internal procedures have been changed to make sure this can never happen again; and I have had discussions directly with the people involved in the south west responsible for delivering health services about ambulances being provided in these circumstances in the future. All of those things have been done. Contact was made this morning with Maddison’s family and a meeting will take place, at which it is intended the Deputy Leader of the Opposition will be present, to make sure these matters are all being dealt with satisfactorily. From time to time in an organisation in which people are involved mistakes will be made. The point I made in answer to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition’s question yesterday - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: This was raised with your predecessor in here in September last year. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I have raised the matter with the person concerned. I have indicated to him that in those circumstances an ambulance should be provided. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him? Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy Leader of the Opposition can run around issuing Hitler-like directives all he likes. What I have suggested will occur in future. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: My community wants ambulances. You are the minister - the buck stops there. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Indeed. That is why a fourth surgeon will be employed; internal procedures have been changed to make sure this can never happen again; and I have had discussions directly with the people involved in the south west responsible for delivering health services about ambulances being provided in these circumstances in the future. All of those things have been done. Contact was made this morning with Maddison’s family and a meeting will take place, at which it is intended the Deputy Leader of the Opposition will be present, to make sure these matters are all being dealt with satisfactorily. From time to time in an organisation in which people are involved mistakes will be made. The point I made in answer to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition’s question yesterday - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
Mr J.A. McGINTY: I have raised the matter with the person concerned. I have indicated to him that in those circumstances an ambulance should be provided. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him? Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy Leader of the Opposition can run around issuing Hitler-like directives all he likes. What I have suggested will occur in future. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: My community wants ambulances. You are the minister - the buck stops there. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Indeed. That is why a fourth surgeon will be employed; internal procedures have been changed to make sure this can never happen again; and I have had discussions directly with the people involved in the south west responsible for delivering health services about ambulances being provided in these circumstances in the future. All of those things have been done. Contact was made this morning with Maddison’s family and a meeting will take place, at which it is intended the Deputy Leader of the Opposition will be present, to make sure these matters are all being dealt with satisfactorily. From time to time in an organisation in which people are involved mistakes will be made. The point I made in answer to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition’s question yesterday - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Have you directed him? Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy Leader of the Opposition can run around issuing Hitler-like directives all he likes. What I have suggested will occur in future. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: My community wants ambulances. You are the minister - the buck stops there. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Indeed. That is why a fourth surgeon will be employed; internal procedures have been changed to make sure this can never happen again; and I have had discussions directly with the people involved in the south west responsible for delivering health services about ambulances being provided in these circumstances in the future. All of those things have been done. Contact was made this morning with Maddison’s family and a meeting will take place, at which it is intended the Deputy Leader of the Opposition will be present, to make sure these matters are all being dealt with satisfactorily. From time to time in an organisation in which people are involved mistakes will be made. The point I made in answer to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition’s question yesterday - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy Leader of the Opposition can run around issuing Hitler-like directives all he likes. What I have suggested will occur in future. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: My community wants ambulances. You are the minister - the buck stops there. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Indeed. That is why a fourth surgeon will be employed; internal procedures have been changed to make sure this can never happen again; and I have had discussions directly with the people involved in the south west responsible for delivering health services about ambulances being provided in these circumstances in the future. All of those things have been done. Contact was made this morning with Maddison’s family and a meeting will take place, at which it is intended the Deputy Leader of the Opposition will be present, to make sure these matters are all being dealt with satisfactorily. From time to time in an organisation in which people are involved mistakes will be made. The point I made in answer to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition’s question yesterday - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: My community wants ambulances. You are the minister - the buck stops there. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Indeed. That is why a fourth surgeon will be employed; internal procedures have been changed to make sure this can never happen again; and I have had discussions directly with the people involved in the south west responsible for delivering health services about ambulances being provided in these circumstances in the future. All of those things have been done. Contact was made this morning with Maddison’s family and a meeting will take place, at which it is intended the Deputy Leader of the Opposition will be present, to make sure these matters are all being dealt with satisfactorily. From time to time in an organisation in which people are involved mistakes will be made. The point I made in answer to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition’s question yesterday - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
Mr J.A. McGINTY: Indeed. That is why a fourth surgeon will be employed; internal procedures have been changed to make sure this can never happen again; and I have had discussions directly with the people involved in the south west responsible for delivering health services about ambulances being provided in these circumstances in the future. All of those things have been done. Contact was made this morning with Maddison’s family and a meeting will take place, at which it is intended the Deputy Leader of the Opposition will be present, to make sure these matters are all being dealt with satisfactorily. From time to time in an organisation in which people are involved mistakes will be made. The point I made in answer to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition’s question yesterday - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
From time to time in an organisation in which people are involved mistakes will be made. The point I made in answer to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition’s question yesterday - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
Mr J.A. McGINTY: The member should not interrupt; this is too serious a matter for his political rhetoric, which does no justice to his constituents. When he asked the question yesterday I treated it with the seriousness it deserved. A mistake was made in the way that Maddison was dealt with, and all of the matters required - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
Mr J.A. McGINTY: The Deputy leader of the Opposition should stop trying to politicise this matter and score cheap political points from a situation involving a young girl with appendicitis. He should be ashamed of himself for engaging in this sort of rhetoric. The family wants to know what occurred, what is being set in place and what will be done to ensure that this does not occur again. I have addressed the matter properly and seriously. Each component of the issue has been properly addressed in a serious way. The member for Mitchell should do the same.
Explore WA Government Data
Search the full archive in the free dashboard, or query programmatically via API.
Explore more
Government Gazette
Appointments, regulatory notices, planning changes.
Hansard
Debates, questions, speeches and sentiment.
Tabled Papers
Reports and documents tabled in Parliament.
Committees
Committee profiles and recent reports.
Regulations
Subsidiary legislation with filters and summaries.
Bills
Proposed laws and parliamentary progress.
Acts
Current WA legislation and summaries.
Explanatory Memoranda
Bills with EMs (text/PDF) available.
Members
MP profiles, party breakdown and rankings.
Pollie Rankings
Data-driven rankings across 19 categories.
Amendment Chains
Track how schemes and regulations evolve over time.