❓ Question regarding the potential privatisation of corrective services in WA. The Minister's response deflects by highlighting past Labor government actions on privatisation, without directly addressing the current government's intentions.
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corrective services — privatisation
The state opposition and the union movement have been making a lot of noise to suggest that the Liberal–National government has an agenda to privatise corrective services. Will the minister inform the house whether there is any truth at all to these claims? Mr D.T. REDMAN
The state opposition and the union movement have been making a lot of noise to suggest that the Liberal–National government has an agenda to privatise corrective services. Will the minister inform the house whether there is any truth at all to these claims? Mr D.T. REDMAN
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I would like to thank the member for Morley for his question and his interest in this matter. I attended a breakfast talk this morning and was confronted by a union rally with a range of slogans, including “Don’t outsource justice!” and “Justice for sale!” I was very concerned and went to the Attorney General to clarify whether he had the Supreme Court for sale and he assured me that he did not have the Supreme Court for sale! Upon walking into the event, I was presented with this document, which is a most interesting read. There are a number of statements in here to get people to go to this rally, including — Metropolitan prisoner transport and court security remains privately run despite significant failures. First established as a privately run prison in 2001 by the then Court Liberal Coalition Government our largest prison … will continue to be operated by the multinational corporation, Serco. Obviously, that sounds very, very scary. Let us take a closer look at what this document states and what some of the facts are that sit behind this. It is interesting to see the position of the political wing of the Community and Public Sector Union–Civil Service Association of WA—the state Labor Party. Several members interjected. Mr D.T. REDMAN : The fact is it had a serious problem with privatisation. Clearly, it had been raised — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : And in terms of the court security and — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I do not know whether you have 58 copies of that document, minister, but there are some people who may be more interested in it than it seems. All I want to do is hear from you. I do not believe that you need any assistance on your feet at this stage from members on either side of this place. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : The minister has not referred to what document he is talking about. Mr D.T. Redman : It is not an official document. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I know that the minister is saying that now, but how about he tell the house what document he is referring to. The SPEAKER : It is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Ms M.M. Quirk : But what about the Hansard ? Mr F.M. Logan : Hansard will have to guess. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr F.M. Logan : Good. The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr D.T. REDMAN replied: I would like to thank the member for Morley for his question and his interest in this matter. I attended a breakfast talk this morning and was confronted by a union rally with a range of slogans, including “Don’t outsource justice!” and “Justice for sale!” I was very concerned and went to the Attorney General to clarify whether he had the Supreme Court for sale and he assured me that he did not have the Supreme Court for sale! Upon walking into the event, I was presented with this document, which is a most interesting read. There are a number of statements in here to get people to go to this rally, including — Metropolitan prisoner transport and court security remains privately run despite significant failures. First established as a privately run prison in 2001 by the then Court Liberal Coalition Government our largest prison … will continue to be operated by the multinational corporation, Serco. Obviously, that sounds very, very scary. Let us take a closer look at what this document states and what some of the facts are that sit behind this. It is interesting to see the position of the political wing of the Community and Public Sector Union–Civil Service Association of WA—the state Labor Party. Several members interjected. Mr D.T. REDMAN : The fact is it had a serious problem with privatisation. Clearly, it had been raised — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : And in terms of the court security and — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I do not know whether you have 58 copies of that document, minister, but there are some people who may be more interested in it than it seems. All I want to do is hear from you. I do not believe that you need any assistance on your feet at this stage from members on either side of this place. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : The minister has not referred to what document he is talking about. Mr D.T. Redman : It is not an official document. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I know that the minister is saying that now, but how about he tell the house what document he is referring to. The SPEAKER : It is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Ms M.M. Quirk : But what about the Hansard ? Mr F.M. Logan : Hansard will have to guess. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr F.M. Logan : Good. The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
I would like to thank the member for Morley for his question and his interest in this matter. I attended a breakfast talk this morning and was confronted by a union rally with a range of slogans, including “Don’t outsource justice!” and “Justice for sale!” I was very concerned and went to the Attorney General to clarify whether he had the Supreme Court for sale and he assured me that he did not have the Supreme Court for sale! Upon walking into the event, I was presented with this document, which is a most interesting read. There are a number of statements in here to get people to go to this rally, including — Metropolitan prisoner transport and court security remains privately run despite significant failures. First established as a privately run prison in 2001 by the then Court Liberal Coalition Government our largest prison … will continue to be operated by the multinational corporation, Serco. Obviously, that sounds very, very scary. Let us take a closer look at what this document states and what some of the facts are that sit behind this. It is interesting to see the position of the political wing of the Community and Public Sector Union–Civil Service Association of WA—the state Labor Party. Several members interjected. Mr D.T. REDMAN : The fact is it had a serious problem with privatisation. Clearly, it had been raised — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : And in terms of the court security and — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I do not know whether you have 58 copies of that document, minister, but there are some people who may be more interested in it than it seems. All I want to do is hear from you. I do not believe that you need any assistance on your feet at this stage from members on either side of this place. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : The minister has not referred to what document he is talking about. Mr D.T. Redman : It is not an official document. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I know that the minister is saying that now, but how about he tell the house what document he is referring to. The SPEAKER : It is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Ms M.M. Quirk : But what about the Hansard ? Mr F.M. Logan : Hansard will have to guess. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr F.M. Logan : Good. The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
I attended a breakfast talk this morning and was confronted by a union rally with a range of slogans, including “Don’t outsource justice!” and “Justice for sale!” I was very concerned and went to the Attorney General to clarify whether he had the Supreme Court for sale and he assured me that he did not have the Supreme Court for sale! Upon walking into the event, I was presented with this document, which is a most interesting read. There are a number of statements in here to get people to go to this rally, including — Metropolitan prisoner transport and court security remains privately run despite significant failures. First established as a privately run prison in 2001 by the then Court Liberal Coalition Government our largest prison … will continue to be operated by the multinational corporation, Serco. Obviously, that sounds very, very scary. Let us take a closer look at what this document states and what some of the facts are that sit behind this. It is interesting to see the position of the political wing of the Community and Public Sector Union–Civil Service Association of WA—the state Labor Party. Several members interjected. Mr D.T. REDMAN : The fact is it had a serious problem with privatisation. Clearly, it had been raised — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : And in terms of the court security and — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I do not know whether you have 58 copies of that document, minister, but there are some people who may be more interested in it than it seems. All I want to do is hear from you. I do not believe that you need any assistance on your feet at this stage from members on either side of this place. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : The minister has not referred to what document he is talking about. Mr D.T. Redman : It is not an official document. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I know that the minister is saying that now, but how about he tell the house what document he is referring to. The SPEAKER : It is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Ms M.M. Quirk : But what about the Hansard ? Mr F.M. Logan : Hansard will have to guess. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr F.M. Logan : Good. The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
It is interesting to see the position of the political wing of the Community and Public Sector Union–Civil Service Association of WA—the state Labor Party. Several members interjected. Mr D.T. REDMAN : The fact is it had a serious problem with privatisation. Clearly, it had been raised — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : And in terms of the court security and — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I do not know whether you have 58 copies of that document, minister, but there are some people who may be more interested in it than it seems. All I want to do is hear from you. I do not believe that you need any assistance on your feet at this stage from members on either side of this place. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : The minister has not referred to what document he is talking about. Mr D.T. Redman : It is not an official document. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I know that the minister is saying that now, but how about he tell the house what document he is referring to. The SPEAKER : It is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Ms M.M. Quirk : But what about the Hansard ? Mr F.M. Logan : Hansard will have to guess. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr F.M. Logan : Good. The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Several members interjected. Mr D.T. REDMAN : The fact is it had a serious problem with privatisation. Clearly, it had been raised — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : And in terms of the court security and — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I do not know whether you have 58 copies of that document, minister, but there are some people who may be more interested in it than it seems. All I want to do is hear from you. I do not believe that you need any assistance on your feet at this stage from members on either side of this place. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : The minister has not referred to what document he is talking about. Mr D.T. Redman : It is not an official document. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I know that the minister is saying that now, but how about he tell the house what document he is referring to. The SPEAKER : It is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Ms M.M. Quirk : But what about the Hansard ? Mr F.M. Logan : Hansard will have to guess. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr F.M. Logan : Good. The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr D.T. REDMAN : The fact is it had a serious problem with privatisation. Clearly, it had been raised — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : And in terms of the court security and — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I do not know whether you have 58 copies of that document, minister, but there are some people who may be more interested in it than it seems. All I want to do is hear from you. I do not believe that you need any assistance on your feet at this stage from members on either side of this place. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : The minister has not referred to what document he is talking about. Mr D.T. Redman : It is not an official document. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I know that the minister is saying that now, but how about he tell the house what document he is referring to. The SPEAKER : It is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Ms M.M. Quirk : But what about the Hansard ? Mr F.M. Logan : Hansard will have to guess. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr F.M. Logan : Good. The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : And in terms of the court security and — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I do not know whether you have 58 copies of that document, minister, but there are some people who may be more interested in it than it seems. All I want to do is hear from you. I do not believe that you need any assistance on your feet at this stage from members on either side of this place. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : The minister has not referred to what document he is talking about. Mr D.T. Redman : It is not an official document. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I know that the minister is saying that now, but how about he tell the house what document he is referring to. The SPEAKER : It is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Ms M.M. Quirk : But what about the Hansard ? Mr F.M. Logan : Hansard will have to guess. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr F.M. Logan : Good. The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : And in terms of the court security and — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I do not know whether you have 58 copies of that document, minister, but there are some people who may be more interested in it than it seems. All I want to do is hear from you. I do not believe that you need any assistance on your feet at this stage from members on either side of this place. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : The minister has not referred to what document he is talking about. Mr D.T. Redman : It is not an official document. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I know that the minister is saying that now, but how about he tell the house what document he is referring to. The SPEAKER : It is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Ms M.M. Quirk : But what about the Hansard ? Mr F.M. Logan : Hansard will have to guess. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr F.M. Logan : Good. The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr D.T. REDMAN : And in terms of the court security and — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I do not know whether you have 58 copies of that document, minister, but there are some people who may be more interested in it than it seems. All I want to do is hear from you. I do not believe that you need any assistance on your feet at this stage from members on either side of this place. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : The minister has not referred to what document he is talking about. Mr D.T. Redman : It is not an official document. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I know that the minister is saying that now, but how about he tell the house what document he is referring to. The SPEAKER : It is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Ms M.M. Quirk : But what about the Hansard ? Mr F.M. Logan : Hansard will have to guess. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr F.M. Logan : Good. The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I do not know whether you have 58 copies of that document, minister, but there are some people who may be more interested in it than it seems. All I want to do is hear from you. I do not believe that you need any assistance on your feet at this stage from members on either side of this place. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : The minister has not referred to what document he is talking about. Mr D.T. Redman : It is not an official document. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I know that the minister is saying that now, but how about he tell the house what document he is referring to. The SPEAKER : It is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Ms M.M. Quirk : But what about the Hansard ? Mr F.M. Logan : Hansard will have to guess. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr F.M. Logan : Good. The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
The SPEAKER : I do not know whether you have 58 copies of that document, minister, but there are some people who may be more interested in it than it seems. All I want to do is hear from you. I do not believe that you need any assistance on your feet at this stage from members on either side of this place. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : The minister has not referred to what document he is talking about. Mr D.T. Redman : It is not an official document. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I know that the minister is saying that now, but how about he tell the house what document he is referring to. The SPEAKER : It is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Ms M.M. Quirk : But what about the Hansard ? Mr F.M. Logan : Hansard will have to guess. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr F.M. Logan : Good. The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr D.T. Redman : It is not an official document. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I know that the minister is saying that now, but how about he tell the house what document he is referring to. The SPEAKER : It is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Ms M.M. Quirk : But what about the Hansard ? Mr F.M. Logan : Hansard will have to guess. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr F.M. Logan : Good. The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr F.M. LOGAN : I know that the minister is saying that now, but how about he tell the house what document he is referring to. The SPEAKER : It is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Ms M.M. Quirk : But what about the Hansard ? Mr F.M. Logan : Hansard will have to guess. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr F.M. Logan : Good. The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
The SPEAKER : It is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Ms M.M. Quirk : But what about the Hansard ? Mr F.M. Logan : Hansard will have to guess. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr F.M. Logan : Good. The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr F.M. Logan : Hansard will have to guess. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr F.M. Logan : Good. The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr F.M. Logan : Good. The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr F.M. Logan : Good. The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr D.T. REDMAN replied: I would like to thank the member for Morley for his question and his interest in this matter. I attended a breakfast talk this morning and was confronted by a union rally with a range of slogans, including “Don’t outsource justice!” and “Justice for sale!” I was very concerned and went to the Attorney General to clarify whether he had the Supreme Court for sale and he assured me that he did not have the Supreme Court for sale! Upon walking into the event, I was presented with this document, which is a most interesting read. There are a number of statements in here to get people to go to this rally, including — Metropolitan prisoner transport and court security remains privately run despite significant failures. First established as a privately run prison in 2001 by the then Court Liberal Coalition Government our largest prison … will continue to be operated by the multinational corporation, Serco. Obviously, that sounds very, very scary. Let us take a closer look at what this document states and what some of the facts are that sit behind this. It is interesting to see the position of the political wing of the Community and Public Sector Union–Civil Service Association of WA—the state Labor Party. Several members interjected. Mr D.T. REDMAN : The fact is it had a serious problem with privatisation. Clearly, it had been raised — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : And in terms of the court security and — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I do not know whether you have 58 copies of that document, minister, but there are some people who may be more interested in it than it seems. All I want to do is hear from you. I do not believe that you need any assistance on your feet at this stage from members on either side of this place. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : The minister has not referred to what document he is talking about. Mr D.T. Redman : It is not an official document. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I know that the minister is saying that now, but how about he tell the house what document he is referring to. The SPEAKER : It is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Ms M.M. Quirk : But what about the Hansard ? Mr F.M. Logan : Hansard will have to guess. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr F.M. Logan : Good. The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
I would like to thank the member for Morley for his question and his interest in this matter. I attended a breakfast talk this morning and was confronted by a union rally with a range of slogans, including “Don’t outsource justice!” and “Justice for sale!” I was very concerned and went to the Attorney General to clarify whether he had the Supreme Court for sale and he assured me that he did not have the Supreme Court for sale! Upon walking into the event, I was presented with this document, which is a most interesting read. There are a number of statements in here to get people to go to this rally, including — Metropolitan prisoner transport and court security remains privately run despite significant failures. First established as a privately run prison in 2001 by the then Court Liberal Coalition Government our largest prison … will continue to be operated by the multinational corporation, Serco. Obviously, that sounds very, very scary. Let us take a closer look at what this document states and what some of the facts are that sit behind this. It is interesting to see the position of the political wing of the Community and Public Sector Union–Civil Service Association of WA—the state Labor Party. Several members interjected. Mr D.T. REDMAN : The fact is it had a serious problem with privatisation. Clearly, it had been raised — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : And in terms of the court security and — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I do not know whether you have 58 copies of that document, minister, but there are some people who may be more interested in it than it seems. All I want to do is hear from you. I do not believe that you need any assistance on your feet at this stage from members on either side of this place. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : The minister has not referred to what document he is talking about. Mr D.T. Redman : It is not an official document. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I know that the minister is saying that now, but how about he tell the house what document he is referring to. The SPEAKER : It is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Ms M.M. Quirk : But what about the Hansard ? Mr F.M. Logan : Hansard will have to guess. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr F.M. Logan : Good. The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
I attended a breakfast talk this morning and was confronted by a union rally with a range of slogans, including “Don’t outsource justice!” and “Justice for sale!” I was very concerned and went to the Attorney General to clarify whether he had the Supreme Court for sale and he assured me that he did not have the Supreme Court for sale! Upon walking into the event, I was presented with this document, which is a most interesting read. There are a number of statements in here to get people to go to this rally, including — Metropolitan prisoner transport and court security remains privately run despite significant failures. First established as a privately run prison in 2001 by the then Court Liberal Coalition Government our largest prison … will continue to be operated by the multinational corporation, Serco. Obviously, that sounds very, very scary. Let us take a closer look at what this document states and what some of the facts are that sit behind this. It is interesting to see the position of the political wing of the Community and Public Sector Union–Civil Service Association of WA—the state Labor Party. Several members interjected. Mr D.T. REDMAN : The fact is it had a serious problem with privatisation. Clearly, it had been raised — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : And in terms of the court security and — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I do not know whether you have 58 copies of that document, minister, but there are some people who may be more interested in it than it seems. All I want to do is hear from you. I do not believe that you need any assistance on your feet at this stage from members on either side of this place. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : The minister has not referred to what document he is talking about. Mr D.T. Redman : It is not an official document. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I know that the minister is saying that now, but how about he tell the house what document he is referring to. The SPEAKER : It is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Ms M.M. Quirk : But what about the Hansard ? Mr F.M. Logan : Hansard will have to guess. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr F.M. Logan : Good. The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
It is interesting to see the position of the political wing of the Community and Public Sector Union–Civil Service Association of WA—the state Labor Party. Several members interjected. Mr D.T. REDMAN : The fact is it had a serious problem with privatisation. Clearly, it had been raised — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : And in terms of the court security and — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I do not know whether you have 58 copies of that document, minister, but there are some people who may be more interested in it than it seems. All I want to do is hear from you. I do not believe that you need any assistance on your feet at this stage from members on either side of this place. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : The minister has not referred to what document he is talking about. Mr D.T. Redman : It is not an official document. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I know that the minister is saying that now, but how about he tell the house what document he is referring to. The SPEAKER : It is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Ms M.M. Quirk : But what about the Hansard ? Mr F.M. Logan : Hansard will have to guess. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr F.M. Logan : Good. The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Several members interjected. Mr D.T. REDMAN : The fact is it had a serious problem with privatisation. Clearly, it had been raised — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : And in terms of the court security and — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I do not know whether you have 58 copies of that document, minister, but there are some people who may be more interested in it than it seems. All I want to do is hear from you. I do not believe that you need any assistance on your feet at this stage from members on either side of this place. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : The minister has not referred to what document he is talking about. Mr D.T. Redman : It is not an official document. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I know that the minister is saying that now, but how about he tell the house what document he is referring to. The SPEAKER : It is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Ms M.M. Quirk : But what about the Hansard ? Mr F.M. Logan : Hansard will have to guess. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr F.M. Logan : Good. The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr D.T. REDMAN : The fact is it had a serious problem with privatisation. Clearly, it had been raised — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : And in terms of the court security and — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I do not know whether you have 58 copies of that document, minister, but there are some people who may be more interested in it than it seems. All I want to do is hear from you. I do not believe that you need any assistance on your feet at this stage from members on either side of this place. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : The minister has not referred to what document he is talking about. Mr D.T. Redman : It is not an official document. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I know that the minister is saying that now, but how about he tell the house what document he is referring to. The SPEAKER : It is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Ms M.M. Quirk : But what about the Hansard ? Mr F.M. Logan : Hansard will have to guess. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr F.M. Logan : Good. The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : And in terms of the court security and — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I do not know whether you have 58 copies of that document, minister, but there are some people who may be more interested in it than it seems. All I want to do is hear from you. I do not believe that you need any assistance on your feet at this stage from members on either side of this place. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : The minister has not referred to what document he is talking about. Mr D.T. Redman : It is not an official document. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I know that the minister is saying that now, but how about he tell the house what document he is referring to. The SPEAKER : It is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Ms M.M. Quirk : But what about the Hansard ? Mr F.M. Logan : Hansard will have to guess. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr F.M. Logan : Good. The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : And in terms of the court security and — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I do not know whether you have 58 copies of that document, minister, but there are some people who may be more interested in it than it seems. All I want to do is hear from you. I do not believe that you need any assistance on your feet at this stage from members on either side of this place. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : The minister has not referred to what document he is talking about. Mr D.T. Redman : It is not an official document. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I know that the minister is saying that now, but how about he tell the house what document he is referring to. The SPEAKER : It is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Ms M.M. Quirk : But what about the Hansard ? Mr F.M. Logan : Hansard will have to guess. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr F.M. Logan : Good. The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr D.T. REDMAN : And in terms of the court security and — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I do not know whether you have 58 copies of that document, minister, but there are some people who may be more interested in it than it seems. All I want to do is hear from you. I do not believe that you need any assistance on your feet at this stage from members on either side of this place. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : The minister has not referred to what document he is talking about. Mr D.T. Redman : It is not an official document. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I know that the minister is saying that now, but how about he tell the house what document he is referring to. The SPEAKER : It is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Ms M.M. Quirk : But what about the Hansard ? Mr F.M. Logan : Hansard will have to guess. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr F.M. Logan : Good. The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I do not know whether you have 58 copies of that document, minister, but there are some people who may be more interested in it than it seems. All I want to do is hear from you. I do not believe that you need any assistance on your feet at this stage from members on either side of this place. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : The minister has not referred to what document he is talking about. Mr D.T. Redman : It is not an official document. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I know that the minister is saying that now, but how about he tell the house what document he is referring to. The SPEAKER : It is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Ms M.M. Quirk : But what about the Hansard ? Mr F.M. Logan : Hansard will have to guess. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr F.M. Logan : Good. The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
The SPEAKER : I do not know whether you have 58 copies of that document, minister, but there are some people who may be more interested in it than it seems. All I want to do is hear from you. I do not believe that you need any assistance on your feet at this stage from members on either side of this place. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : The minister has not referred to what document he is talking about. Mr D.T. Redman : It is not an official document. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I know that the minister is saying that now, but how about he tell the house what document he is referring to. The SPEAKER : It is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Ms M.M. Quirk : But what about the Hansard ? Mr F.M. Logan : Hansard will have to guess. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr F.M. Logan : Good. The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr D.T. Redman : It is not an official document. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I know that the minister is saying that now, but how about he tell the house what document he is referring to. The SPEAKER : It is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Ms M.M. Quirk : But what about the Hansard ? Mr F.M. Logan : Hansard will have to guess. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr F.M. Logan : Good. The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr F.M. LOGAN : I know that the minister is saying that now, but how about he tell the house what document he is referring to. The SPEAKER : It is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Ms M.M. Quirk : But what about the Hansard ? Mr F.M. Logan : Hansard will have to guess. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr F.M. Logan : Good. The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
The SPEAKER : It is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Ms M.M. Quirk : But what about the Hansard ? Mr F.M. Logan : Hansard will have to guess. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr F.M. Logan : Good. The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr F.M. Logan : Hansard will have to guess. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr F.M. Logan : Good. The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr F.M. Logan : Good. The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr F.M. Logan : Good. The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
The SPEAKER : I am sure that you want to stay in here, member for Cockburn. Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to highlight — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
The SPEAKER : Order! Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the second time today. Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr D.T. REDMAN : I want to point out the position of the Labor Party on privatisation. The point that the Leader of the Opposition made by way of interjection in saying, “Go back and have a look at what we did in 2001” — Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr E.S. Ripper : In the hospitals! Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr D.T. REDMAN : When we have it in the hospitals—it is clarified now, Mr Speaker! When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
When we look at the court security and custodial services contract, we see that during the term of the last government, as the Minister for Health highlighted last week, that contract was renewed—not once, but twice—in 2005 and 2007. The then government renewed that contract and maintained it with the private sector, despite calls that it is sitting on the high ground in saying that we are going to take this back into government. That was the position that Labor members took. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
The SPEAKER : Members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr D.T. REDMAN : There is also some reference here to significant privatisation failures. They have found five; two in Victoria and one in New South Wales, and they have been able to come up with two in Western Australia. One relates to the most significant underinvestment that the now opposition when in government made in the transport system, and we know what that resulted in. Of course, the other one relates to the nine prisoners who escaped, and we know the response to that one; simply changing their clothes fixed up that issue! We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
We also come to the Acacia contract. Again, there is reference in here to the point I made about Acacia Prison being the biggest prison in Western Australia run by this multinational company. The original Acacia Prison services contract was awarded to Corrections Corporation of Australia, which, after a series of reorganisations, became Australian Integration Management Services Corporation Pty Ltd or AIMS—remember that one? It was a five-year contract, from May 2001 to May 2006, and the option presented for renewing the contract with the Department of Corrective Services. I say the following for the opposition: at the expiry of the initial five-year period in 2006, the previous government decided not to renew the contract, choosing instead to test the market by re-tendering the service. Serco was selected as the new contractor and took over management of Acacia Prison from AIMS in 2006. Clearly, as the Leader of the Opposition highlights, behaviour does not match the rhetoric when we look at that 2001 decision. There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
There is also a reference to false economy. The independent Office of the Inspector of Custodial Services highlights the following — … Acacia’s performance is at least equal to the best public sector prisons in the State and in many respects it is superior. Another comment reads — … Health service provision at Acacia is the best in the State … And also — … it is without doubt one of the best performing prisons in Western Australia, if not the best and it is also providing a financial saving to the State. That is another measure. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr D.T. REDMAN : It is true that I am looking at the corrective services legislation. No decision has been made and there is certainly not an across-the-board agenda to privatise corrections. Regarding another decision made by this government around the Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison, we certainly examined the opportunities for a private contractor to run it, but in the end we decided to keep it in house. This government certainly has not got an agenda to privatise at all costs. Justice is not for sale in Western Australia. That suggestion is absolute rubbish. But, of course, the Opposition’s record stands as it is. We certainly do not want to let the truth get in the way of a good story! The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time. Before I call for petitions, I am going to give these documents back to the Treasurer. Treasurer, quite clearly the piece you had removed was pertinent, perhaps, to the question you were being asked, but I see that you have written all over the top of it and created all sorts of corrections to information that is obviously needed for you. The rest of the document has no relationship whatsoever to the questions the member asked. Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr P. Papalia : He was reading from it. Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr M.J. Cowper : No, he wasn’t. Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr P. Papalia : He was; it was sitting on his desk and he was reading from it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today! Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr T.G. Stephens : Surprise, surprise! The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara for the first time today! Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the third time today! As I understand it, the member for Rockingham asked for some clarification on this. Member for Rockingham, I am providing you with that clarification for the benefit of everybody in here.
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