❓ Question regarding alleged pressure from Minister McSweeney on Michelle Stubbs to drop an application, based on Stubbs' letter expressing contempt. Premier Barnett denies the pressure, leading to heated exchanges and a call for withdrawal of comments.
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redress wa — michelle stubbs — Minister for Community Services
I have a supplementary question. How is the Premier’s characterisation of these events at all consistent with Michelle Stubbs’ letter in which she states — … I would also like to express my contempt for Minister McSweeney who … called me at home to ask if I would, and I quote, “let this one go through to the keeper”. My response was no and I found the suggestion highly offensive. Mr C.J. BARNETT
I have a supplementary question. How is the Premier’s characterisation of these events at all consistent with Michelle Stubbs’ letter in which she states — … I would also like to express my contempt for Minister McSweeney who … called me at home to ask if I would, and I quote, “let this one go through to the keeper”. My response was no and I found the suggestion highly offensive. Mr C.J. BARNETT
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As I have just said, the minister returned a call from Michelle Stubbs. It was Michelle Stubbs who called the office. Robyn McSweeney returned — Mr E.S. Ripper : Then why is she so angry about it? Mr C.J. BARNETT : Why is she angry? I do not know. I have not spoken to Michelle Stubbs for some time. I hope to speak to her for some time in the future—if that happens. Mr M. McGowan : She was under pressure. You pressured her. Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, you are wrong. You are just wrong. Mr E.S. Ripper : A person with an application that had not yet been considered was pressured by the minister! Mr C.J. BARNETT : There is no doubt — Mr E.S. Ripper : She had not had her application resolved. She was pressured by the minister. Mr C.J. BARNETT : She was not pressured by a minister at all! I would ask the Leader of the Opposition to withdraw that comment. Mr E.S. Ripper : I am not going to withdraw it. Mr M.P. Whitely : Just let it go through to the keeper! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Bassendean, I do not know whether that it is necessary, but I formally call you to order for the third time and give the call to member for Jandakot.
How is the Premier’s characterisation of these events at all consistent with Michelle Stubbs’ letter in which she states — … I would also like to express my contempt for Minister McSweeney who … called me at home to ask if I would, and I quote, “let this one go through to the keeper”. My response was no and I found the suggestion highly offensive. Mr C.J. BARNETT replied: As I have just said, the minister returned a call from Michelle Stubbs. It was Michelle Stubbs who called the office. Robyn McSweeney returned — Mr E.S. Ripper : Then why is she so angry about it? Mr C.J. BARNETT : Why is she angry? I do not know. I have not spoken to Michelle Stubbs for some time. I hope to speak to her for some time in the future—if that happens. Mr M. McGowan : She was under pressure. You pressured her. Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, you are wrong. You are just wrong. Mr E.S. Ripper : A person with an application that had not yet been considered was pressured by the minister! Mr C.J. BARNETT : There is no doubt — Mr E.S. Ripper : She had not had her application resolved. She was pressured by the minister. Mr C.J. BARNETT : She was not pressured by a minister at all! I would ask the Leader of the Opposition to withdraw that comment. Mr E.S. Ripper : I am not going to withdraw it. Mr M.P. Whitely : Just let it go through to the keeper! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Bassendean, I do not know whether that it is necessary, but I formally call you to order for the third time and give the call to member for Jandakot.
As I have just said, the minister returned a call from Michelle Stubbs. It was Michelle Stubbs who called the office. Robyn McSweeney returned — Mr E.S. Ripper : Then why is she so angry about it? Mr C.J. BARNETT : Why is she angry? I do not know. I have not spoken to Michelle Stubbs for some time. I hope to speak to her for some time in the future—if that happens. Mr M. McGowan : She was under pressure. You pressured her. Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, you are wrong. You are just wrong. Mr E.S. Ripper : A person with an application that had not yet been considered was pressured by the minister! Mr C.J. BARNETT : There is no doubt — Mr E.S. Ripper : She had not had her application resolved. She was pressured by the minister. Mr C.J. BARNETT : She was not pressured by a minister at all! I would ask the Leader of the Opposition to withdraw that comment. Mr E.S. Ripper : I am not going to withdraw it. Mr M.P. Whitely : Just let it go through to the keeper! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Bassendean, I do not know whether that it is necessary, but I formally call you to order for the third time and give the call to member for Jandakot.
Mr E.S. Ripper : Then why is she so angry about it? Mr C.J. BARNETT : Why is she angry? I do not know. I have not spoken to Michelle Stubbs for some time. I hope to speak to her for some time in the future—if that happens. Mr M. McGowan : She was under pressure. You pressured her. Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, you are wrong. You are just wrong. Mr E.S. Ripper : A person with an application that had not yet been considered was pressured by the minister! Mr C.J. BARNETT : There is no doubt — Mr E.S. Ripper : She had not had her application resolved. She was pressured by the minister. Mr C.J. BARNETT : She was not pressured by a minister at all! I would ask the Leader of the Opposition to withdraw that comment. Mr E.S. Ripper : I am not going to withdraw it. Mr M.P. Whitely : Just let it go through to the keeper! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Bassendean, I do not know whether that it is necessary, but I formally call you to order for the third time and give the call to member for Jandakot.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : Why is she angry? I do not know. I have not spoken to Michelle Stubbs for some time. I hope to speak to her for some time in the future—if that happens. Mr M. McGowan : She was under pressure. You pressured her. Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, you are wrong. You are just wrong. Mr E.S. Ripper : A person with an application that had not yet been considered was pressured by the minister! Mr C.J. BARNETT : There is no doubt — Mr E.S. Ripper : She had not had her application resolved. She was pressured by the minister. Mr C.J. BARNETT : She was not pressured by a minister at all! I would ask the Leader of the Opposition to withdraw that comment. Mr E.S. Ripper : I am not going to withdraw it. Mr M.P. Whitely : Just let it go through to the keeper! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Bassendean, I do not know whether that it is necessary, but I formally call you to order for the third time and give the call to member for Jandakot.
Mr M. McGowan : She was under pressure. You pressured her. Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, you are wrong. You are just wrong. Mr E.S. Ripper : A person with an application that had not yet been considered was pressured by the minister! Mr C.J. BARNETT : There is no doubt — Mr E.S. Ripper : She had not had her application resolved. She was pressured by the minister. Mr C.J. BARNETT : She was not pressured by a minister at all! I would ask the Leader of the Opposition to withdraw that comment. Mr E.S. Ripper : I am not going to withdraw it. Mr M.P. Whitely : Just let it go through to the keeper! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Bassendean, I do not know whether that it is necessary, but I formally call you to order for the third time and give the call to member for Jandakot.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, you are wrong. You are just wrong. Mr E.S. Ripper : A person with an application that had not yet been considered was pressured by the minister! Mr C.J. BARNETT : There is no doubt — Mr E.S. Ripper : She had not had her application resolved. She was pressured by the minister. Mr C.J. BARNETT : She was not pressured by a minister at all! I would ask the Leader of the Opposition to withdraw that comment. Mr E.S. Ripper : I am not going to withdraw it. Mr M.P. Whitely : Just let it go through to the keeper! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Bassendean, I do not know whether that it is necessary, but I formally call you to order for the third time and give the call to member for Jandakot.
Mr E.S. Ripper : A person with an application that had not yet been considered was pressured by the minister! Mr C.J. BARNETT : There is no doubt — Mr E.S. Ripper : She had not had her application resolved. She was pressured by the minister. Mr C.J. BARNETT : She was not pressured by a minister at all! I would ask the Leader of the Opposition to withdraw that comment. Mr E.S. Ripper : I am not going to withdraw it. Mr M.P. Whitely : Just let it go through to the keeper! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Bassendean, I do not know whether that it is necessary, but I formally call you to order for the third time and give the call to member for Jandakot.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : There is no doubt — Mr E.S. Ripper : She had not had her application resolved. She was pressured by the minister. Mr C.J. BARNETT : She was not pressured by a minister at all! I would ask the Leader of the Opposition to withdraw that comment. Mr E.S. Ripper : I am not going to withdraw it. Mr M.P. Whitely : Just let it go through to the keeper! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Bassendean, I do not know whether that it is necessary, but I formally call you to order for the third time and give the call to member for Jandakot.
Mr E.S. Ripper : She had not had her application resolved. She was pressured by the minister. Mr C.J. BARNETT : She was not pressured by a minister at all! I would ask the Leader of the Opposition to withdraw that comment. Mr E.S. Ripper : I am not going to withdraw it. Mr M.P. Whitely : Just let it go through to the keeper! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Bassendean, I do not know whether that it is necessary, but I formally call you to order for the third time and give the call to member for Jandakot.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : She was not pressured by a minister at all! I would ask the Leader of the Opposition to withdraw that comment. Mr E.S. Ripper : I am not going to withdraw it. Mr M.P. Whitely : Just let it go through to the keeper! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Bassendean, I do not know whether that it is necessary, but I formally call you to order for the third time and give the call to member for Jandakot.
Mr E.S. Ripper : I am not going to withdraw it. Mr M.P. Whitely : Just let it go through to the keeper! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Bassendean, I do not know whether that it is necessary, but I formally call you to order for the third time and give the call to member for Jandakot.
Mr M.P. Whitely : Just let it go through to the keeper! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Bassendean, I do not know whether that it is necessary, but I formally call you to order for the third time and give the call to member for Jandakot.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Bassendean, I do not know whether that it is necessary, but I formally call you to order for the third time and give the call to member for Jandakot.
The SPEAKER : Member for Bassendean, I do not know whether that it is necessary, but I formally call you to order for the third time and give the call to member for Jandakot.
How is the Premier’s characterisation of these events at all consistent with Michelle Stubbs’ letter in which she states — … I would also like to express my contempt for Minister McSweeney who … called me at home to ask if I would, and I quote, “let this one go through to the keeper”. My response was no and I found the suggestion highly offensive. Mr C.J. BARNETT replied: As I have just said, the minister returned a call from Michelle Stubbs. It was Michelle Stubbs who called the office. Robyn McSweeney returned — Mr E.S. Ripper : Then why is she so angry about it? Mr C.J. BARNETT : Why is she angry? I do not know. I have not spoken to Michelle Stubbs for some time. I hope to speak to her for some time in the future—if that happens. Mr M. McGowan : She was under pressure. You pressured her. Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, you are wrong. You are just wrong. Mr E.S. Ripper : A person with an application that had not yet been considered was pressured by the minister! Mr C.J. BARNETT : There is no doubt — Mr E.S. Ripper : She had not had her application resolved. She was pressured by the minister. Mr C.J. BARNETT : She was not pressured by a minister at all! I would ask the Leader of the Opposition to withdraw that comment. Mr E.S. Ripper : I am not going to withdraw it. Mr M.P. Whitely : Just let it go through to the keeper! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Bassendean, I do not know whether that it is necessary, but I formally call you to order for the third time and give the call to member for Jandakot.
As I have just said, the minister returned a call from Michelle Stubbs. It was Michelle Stubbs who called the office. Robyn McSweeney returned — Mr E.S. Ripper : Then why is she so angry about it? Mr C.J. BARNETT : Why is she angry? I do not know. I have not spoken to Michelle Stubbs for some time. I hope to speak to her for some time in the future—if that happens. Mr M. McGowan : She was under pressure. You pressured her. Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, you are wrong. You are just wrong. Mr E.S. Ripper : A person with an application that had not yet been considered was pressured by the minister! Mr C.J. BARNETT : There is no doubt — Mr E.S. Ripper : She had not had her application resolved. She was pressured by the minister. Mr C.J. BARNETT : She was not pressured by a minister at all! I would ask the Leader of the Opposition to withdraw that comment. Mr E.S. Ripper : I am not going to withdraw it. Mr M.P. Whitely : Just let it go through to the keeper! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Bassendean, I do not know whether that it is necessary, but I formally call you to order for the third time and give the call to member for Jandakot.
Mr E.S. Ripper : Then why is she so angry about it? Mr C.J. BARNETT : Why is she angry? I do not know. I have not spoken to Michelle Stubbs for some time. I hope to speak to her for some time in the future—if that happens. Mr M. McGowan : She was under pressure. You pressured her. Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, you are wrong. You are just wrong. Mr E.S. Ripper : A person with an application that had not yet been considered was pressured by the minister! Mr C.J. BARNETT : There is no doubt — Mr E.S. Ripper : She had not had her application resolved. She was pressured by the minister. Mr C.J. BARNETT : She was not pressured by a minister at all! I would ask the Leader of the Opposition to withdraw that comment. Mr E.S. Ripper : I am not going to withdraw it. Mr M.P. Whitely : Just let it go through to the keeper! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Bassendean, I do not know whether that it is necessary, but I formally call you to order for the third time and give the call to member for Jandakot.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : Why is she angry? I do not know. I have not spoken to Michelle Stubbs for some time. I hope to speak to her for some time in the future—if that happens. Mr M. McGowan : She was under pressure. You pressured her. Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, you are wrong. You are just wrong. Mr E.S. Ripper : A person with an application that had not yet been considered was pressured by the minister! Mr C.J. BARNETT : There is no doubt — Mr E.S. Ripper : She had not had her application resolved. She was pressured by the minister. Mr C.J. BARNETT : She was not pressured by a minister at all! I would ask the Leader of the Opposition to withdraw that comment. Mr E.S. Ripper : I am not going to withdraw it. Mr M.P. Whitely : Just let it go through to the keeper! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Bassendean, I do not know whether that it is necessary, but I formally call you to order for the third time and give the call to member for Jandakot.
Mr M. McGowan : She was under pressure. You pressured her. Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, you are wrong. You are just wrong. Mr E.S. Ripper : A person with an application that had not yet been considered was pressured by the minister! Mr C.J. BARNETT : There is no doubt — Mr E.S. Ripper : She had not had her application resolved. She was pressured by the minister. Mr C.J. BARNETT : She was not pressured by a minister at all! I would ask the Leader of the Opposition to withdraw that comment. Mr E.S. Ripper : I am not going to withdraw it. Mr M.P. Whitely : Just let it go through to the keeper! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Bassendean, I do not know whether that it is necessary, but I formally call you to order for the third time and give the call to member for Jandakot.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, you are wrong. You are just wrong. Mr E.S. Ripper : A person with an application that had not yet been considered was pressured by the minister! Mr C.J. BARNETT : There is no doubt — Mr E.S. Ripper : She had not had her application resolved. She was pressured by the minister. Mr C.J. BARNETT : She was not pressured by a minister at all! I would ask the Leader of the Opposition to withdraw that comment. Mr E.S. Ripper : I am not going to withdraw it. Mr M.P. Whitely : Just let it go through to the keeper! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Bassendean, I do not know whether that it is necessary, but I formally call you to order for the third time and give the call to member for Jandakot.
Mr E.S. Ripper : A person with an application that had not yet been considered was pressured by the minister! Mr C.J. BARNETT : There is no doubt — Mr E.S. Ripper : She had not had her application resolved. She was pressured by the minister. Mr C.J. BARNETT : She was not pressured by a minister at all! I would ask the Leader of the Opposition to withdraw that comment. Mr E.S. Ripper : I am not going to withdraw it. Mr M.P. Whitely : Just let it go through to the keeper! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Bassendean, I do not know whether that it is necessary, but I formally call you to order for the third time and give the call to member for Jandakot.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : There is no doubt — Mr E.S. Ripper : She had not had her application resolved. She was pressured by the minister. Mr C.J. BARNETT : She was not pressured by a minister at all! I would ask the Leader of the Opposition to withdraw that comment. Mr E.S. Ripper : I am not going to withdraw it. Mr M.P. Whitely : Just let it go through to the keeper! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Bassendean, I do not know whether that it is necessary, but I formally call you to order for the third time and give the call to member for Jandakot.
Mr E.S. Ripper : She had not had her application resolved. She was pressured by the minister. Mr C.J. BARNETT : She was not pressured by a minister at all! I would ask the Leader of the Opposition to withdraw that comment. Mr E.S. Ripper : I am not going to withdraw it. Mr M.P. Whitely : Just let it go through to the keeper! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Bassendean, I do not know whether that it is necessary, but I formally call you to order for the third time and give the call to member for Jandakot.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : She was not pressured by a minister at all! I would ask the Leader of the Opposition to withdraw that comment. Mr E.S. Ripper : I am not going to withdraw it. Mr M.P. Whitely : Just let it go through to the keeper! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Bassendean, I do not know whether that it is necessary, but I formally call you to order for the third time and give the call to member for Jandakot.
Mr E.S. Ripper : I am not going to withdraw it. Mr M.P. Whitely : Just let it go through to the keeper! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Bassendean, I do not know whether that it is necessary, but I formally call you to order for the third time and give the call to member for Jandakot.
Mr M.P. Whitely : Just let it go through to the keeper! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Bassendean, I do not know whether that it is necessary, but I formally call you to order for the third time and give the call to member for Jandakot.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Bassendean, I do not know whether that it is necessary, but I formally call you to order for the third time and give the call to member for Jandakot.
The SPEAKER : Member for Bassendean, I do not know whether that it is necessary, but I formally call you to order for the third time and give the call to member for Jandakot.
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