❓ Shadow Minister Collier questions the Education Minister's office about a request for a list of schools he visited and seeks clarification on protocol for school visits. The Minister's response is highly critical and challenges the accuracy of Collier's claims regarding the number of schools visited.
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HON PETER COLLIER - VISITS TO SCHOOLS
I refer to an e-mail sent from the Department of Education and Training to district directors at 1.58 pm on Tuesday, 15 August 2006, which states in part - Hi Everyone The Minister’s Office has requested the names of all the schools visited across the State by Hon Peter Collier (see today’s Inside Cover ). (1) Why did the office of the Minister for Education and Training request the names of the schools that I had visited? (2) Given that I had written and verbal advice from the office of the Minister for Education and Training that the correct protocol for visiting public schools was through direct contact with individual school principals, will the minister please confirm the correct protocol for my visits to public schools? (3) Will the minister confirm that as shadow Minister for Education and Training I am welcome to visit public schools? (4) If yes to (3), in order to allay any concerns that principals may have, will the minister ensure that public schools are made aware that I am welcome to visit their schools; and, if not, why not? Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH
I refer to an e-mail sent from the Department of Education and Training to district directors at 1.58 pm on Tuesday, 15 August 2006, which states in part - Hi Everyone The Minister’s Office has requested the names of all the schools visited across the State by Hon Peter Collier (see today’s Inside Cover ). (1) Why did the office of the Minister for Education and Training request the names of the schools that I had visited? (2) Given that I had written and verbal advice from the office of the Minister for Education and Training that the correct protocol for visiting public schools was through direct contact with individual school principals, will the minister please confirm the correct protocol for my visits to public schools? (3) Will the minister confirm that as shadow Minister for Education and Training I am welcome to visit public schools? (4) If yes to (3), in order to allay any concerns that principals may have, will the minister ensure that public schools are made aware that I am welcome to visit their schools; and, if not, why not? Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH
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(1)-(4) Finally! He has been shadow spokesperson for education and training for six months, and finally he goes out and visits some schools! It is long overdue! I just hope the member was not teaching handwriting or ethics to our children, but, anyway, he has gone to the schools. The member is referring in his question to a time when I was on leave, albeit it was reported by The West Australian as a holiday, which would imply that I had probably gone to Bali and back, but I had not. In fact, I had taken two weeks’ leave to attend to some personal business. In relation to the specific question, yes, the member is welcome to go to schools. However, the member purports to have a letter signed by a former member of my staff, giving him permission to do so. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That was information or an e-mail that had been written for Hon Simon O’Brien as the former shadow spokesperson for education and training. However, that is not what the member stated. The member stated that he had a letter. The member actually gets confused about who he is and what he is able to do. Hon Peter Collier : No. I had written permission. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member seems to get very confused about who he is. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, and it is not enrolment time for the Liberal Party. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, so he personally does not have a letter from anyone. I want to ask something of the honourable member. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Ken Travers! The Minister for Education and Training is bringing her answer to a close, but she is prevented from doing so because of the cross-chamber interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The member put out a press release on 21 August saying that he had visited dozens of schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
The Minister’s Office has requested the names of all the schools visited across the State by Hon Peter Collier (see today’s Inside Cover ).
(2) Given that I had written and verbal advice from the office of the Minister for Education and Training that the correct protocol for visiting public schools was through direct contact with individual school principals, will the minister please confirm the correct protocol for my visits to public schools? (3) Will the minister confirm that as shadow Minister for Education and Training I am welcome to visit public schools? (4) If yes to (3), in order to allay any concerns that principals may have, will the minister ensure that public schools are made aware that I am welcome to visit their schools; and, if not, why not? Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: (1)-(4) Finally! He has been shadow spokesperson for education and training for six months, and finally he goes out and visits some schools! It is long overdue! I just hope the member was not teaching handwriting or ethics to our children, but, anyway, he has gone to the schools. The member is referring in his question to a time when I was on leave, albeit it was reported by The West Australian as a holiday, which would imply that I had probably gone to Bali and back, but I had not. In fact, I had taken two weeks’ leave to attend to some personal business. In relation to the specific question, yes, the member is welcome to go to schools. However, the member purports to have a letter signed by a former member of my staff, giving him permission to do so. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That was information or an e-mail that had been written for Hon Simon O’Brien as the former shadow spokesperson for education and training. However, that is not what the member stated. The member stated that he had a letter. The member actually gets confused about who he is and what he is able to do. Hon Peter Collier : No. I had written permission. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member seems to get very confused about who he is. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, and it is not enrolment time for the Liberal Party. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, so he personally does not have a letter from anyone. I want to ask something of the honourable member. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Ken Travers! The Minister for Education and Training is bringing her answer to a close, but she is prevented from doing so because of the cross-chamber interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The member put out a press release on 21 August saying that he had visited dozens of schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
(3) Will the minister confirm that as shadow Minister for Education and Training I am welcome to visit public schools? (4) If yes to (3), in order to allay any concerns that principals may have, will the minister ensure that public schools are made aware that I am welcome to visit their schools; and, if not, why not? Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: (1)-(4) Finally! He has been shadow spokesperson for education and training for six months, and finally he goes out and visits some schools! It is long overdue! I just hope the member was not teaching handwriting or ethics to our children, but, anyway, he has gone to the schools. The member is referring in his question to a time when I was on leave, albeit it was reported by The West Australian as a holiday, which would imply that I had probably gone to Bali and back, but I had not. In fact, I had taken two weeks’ leave to attend to some personal business. In relation to the specific question, yes, the member is welcome to go to schools. However, the member purports to have a letter signed by a former member of my staff, giving him permission to do so. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That was information or an e-mail that had been written for Hon Simon O’Brien as the former shadow spokesperson for education and training. However, that is not what the member stated. The member stated that he had a letter. The member actually gets confused about who he is and what he is able to do. Hon Peter Collier : No. I had written permission. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member seems to get very confused about who he is. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, and it is not enrolment time for the Liberal Party. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, so he personally does not have a letter from anyone. I want to ask something of the honourable member. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Ken Travers! The Minister for Education and Training is bringing her answer to a close, but she is prevented from doing so because of the cross-chamber interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The member put out a press release on 21 August saying that he had visited dozens of schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
(4) If yes to (3), in order to allay any concerns that principals may have, will the minister ensure that public schools are made aware that I am welcome to visit their schools; and, if not, why not? Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: (1)-(4) Finally! He has been shadow spokesperson for education and training for six months, and finally he goes out and visits some schools! It is long overdue! I just hope the member was not teaching handwriting or ethics to our children, but, anyway, he has gone to the schools. The member is referring in his question to a time when I was on leave, albeit it was reported by The West Australian as a holiday, which would imply that I had probably gone to Bali and back, but I had not. In fact, I had taken two weeks’ leave to attend to some personal business. In relation to the specific question, yes, the member is welcome to go to schools. However, the member purports to have a letter signed by a former member of my staff, giving him permission to do so. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That was information or an e-mail that had been written for Hon Simon O’Brien as the former shadow spokesperson for education and training. However, that is not what the member stated. The member stated that he had a letter. The member actually gets confused about who he is and what he is able to do. Hon Peter Collier : No. I had written permission. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member seems to get very confused about who he is. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, and it is not enrolment time for the Liberal Party. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, so he personally does not have a letter from anyone. I want to ask something of the honourable member. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Ken Travers! The Minister for Education and Training is bringing her answer to a close, but she is prevented from doing so because of the cross-chamber interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The member put out a press release on 21 August saying that he had visited dozens of schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: (1)-(4) Finally! He has been shadow spokesperson for education and training for six months, and finally he goes out and visits some schools! It is long overdue! I just hope the member was not teaching handwriting or ethics to our children, but, anyway, he has gone to the schools. The member is referring in his question to a time when I was on leave, albeit it was reported by The West Australian as a holiday, which would imply that I had probably gone to Bali and back, but I had not. In fact, I had taken two weeks’ leave to attend to some personal business. In relation to the specific question, yes, the member is welcome to go to schools. However, the member purports to have a letter signed by a former member of my staff, giving him permission to do so. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That was information or an e-mail that had been written for Hon Simon O’Brien as the former shadow spokesperson for education and training. However, that is not what the member stated. The member stated that he had a letter. The member actually gets confused about who he is and what he is able to do. Hon Peter Collier : No. I had written permission. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member seems to get very confused about who he is. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, and it is not enrolment time for the Liberal Party. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, so he personally does not have a letter from anyone. I want to ask something of the honourable member. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Ken Travers! The Minister for Education and Training is bringing her answer to a close, but she is prevented from doing so because of the cross-chamber interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The member put out a press release on 21 August saying that he had visited dozens of schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: (1)-(4) Finally! He has been shadow spokesperson for education and training for six months, and finally he goes out and visits some schools! It is long overdue! I just hope the member was not teaching handwriting or ethics to our children, but, anyway, he has gone to the schools. The member is referring in his question to a time when I was on leave, albeit it was reported by The West Australian as a holiday, which would imply that I had probably gone to Bali and back, but I had not. In fact, I had taken two weeks’ leave to attend to some personal business. In relation to the specific question, yes, the member is welcome to go to schools. However, the member purports to have a letter signed by a former member of my staff, giving him permission to do so. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That was information or an e-mail that had been written for Hon Simon O’Brien as the former shadow spokesperson for education and training. However, that is not what the member stated. The member stated that he had a letter. The member actually gets confused about who he is and what he is able to do. Hon Peter Collier : No. I had written permission. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member seems to get very confused about who he is. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, and it is not enrolment time for the Liberal Party. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, so he personally does not have a letter from anyone. I want to ask something of the honourable member. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Ken Travers! The Minister for Education and Training is bringing her answer to a close, but she is prevented from doing so because of the cross-chamber interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The member put out a press release on 21 August saying that he had visited dozens of schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: (1)-(4) Finally! He has been shadow spokesperson for education and training for six months, and finally he goes out and visits some schools! It is long overdue! I just hope the member was not teaching handwriting or ethics to our children, but, anyway, he has gone to the schools. The member is referring in his question to a time when I was on leave, albeit it was reported by The West Australian as a holiday, which would imply that I had probably gone to Bali and back, but I had not. In fact, I had taken two weeks’ leave to attend to some personal business. In relation to the specific question, yes, the member is welcome to go to schools. However, the member purports to have a letter signed by a former member of my staff, giving him permission to do so. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That was information or an e-mail that had been written for Hon Simon O’Brien as the former shadow spokesperson for education and training. However, that is not what the member stated. The member stated that he had a letter. The member actually gets confused about who he is and what he is able to do. Hon Peter Collier : No. I had written permission. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member seems to get very confused about who he is. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, and it is not enrolment time for the Liberal Party. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, so he personally does not have a letter from anyone. I want to ask something of the honourable member. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Ken Travers! The Minister for Education and Training is bringing her answer to a close, but she is prevented from doing so because of the cross-chamber interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The member put out a press release on 21 August saying that he had visited dozens of schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
(1)-(4) Finally! He has been shadow spokesperson for education and training for six months, and finally he goes out and visits some schools! It is long overdue! I just hope the member was not teaching handwriting or ethics to our children, but, anyway, he has gone to the schools. The member is referring in his question to a time when I was on leave, albeit it was reported by The West Australian as a holiday, which would imply that I had probably gone to Bali and back, but I had not. In fact, I had taken two weeks’ leave to attend to some personal business. In relation to the specific question, yes, the member is welcome to go to schools. However, the member purports to have a letter signed by a former member of my staff, giving him permission to do so. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That was information or an e-mail that had been written for Hon Simon O’Brien as the former shadow spokesperson for education and training. However, that is not what the member stated. The member stated that he had a letter. The member actually gets confused about who he is and what he is able to do. Hon Peter Collier : No. I had written permission. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member seems to get very confused about who he is. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, and it is not enrolment time for the Liberal Party. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, so he personally does not have a letter from anyone. I want to ask something of the honourable member. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Ken Travers! The Minister for Education and Training is bringing her answer to a close, but she is prevented from doing so because of the cross-chamber interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The member put out a press release on 21 August saying that he had visited dozens of schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That was information or an e-mail that had been written for Hon Simon O’Brien as the former shadow spokesperson for education and training. However, that is not what the member stated. The member stated that he had a letter. The member actually gets confused about who he is and what he is able to do. Hon Peter Collier : No. I had written permission. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member seems to get very confused about who he is. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, and it is not enrolment time for the Liberal Party. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, so he personally does not have a letter from anyone. I want to ask something of the honourable member. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Ken Travers! The Minister for Education and Training is bringing her answer to a close, but she is prevented from doing so because of the cross-chamber interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The member put out a press release on 21 August saying that he had visited dozens of schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That was information or an e-mail that had been written for Hon Simon O’Brien as the former shadow spokesperson for education and training. However, that is not what the member stated. The member stated that he had a letter. The member actually gets confused about who he is and what he is able to do. Hon Peter Collier : No. I had written permission. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member seems to get very confused about who he is. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, and it is not enrolment time for the Liberal Party. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, so he personally does not have a letter from anyone. I want to ask something of the honourable member. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Ken Travers! The Minister for Education and Training is bringing her answer to a close, but she is prevented from doing so because of the cross-chamber interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The member put out a press release on 21 August saying that he had visited dozens of schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
Hon Peter Collier : No. I had written permission. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member seems to get very confused about who he is. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, and it is not enrolment time for the Liberal Party. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, so he personally does not have a letter from anyone. I want to ask something of the honourable member. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Ken Travers! The Minister for Education and Training is bringing her answer to a close, but she is prevented from doing so because of the cross-chamber interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The member put out a press release on 21 August saying that he had visited dozens of schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member seems to get very confused about who he is. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, and it is not enrolment time for the Liberal Party. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, so he personally does not have a letter from anyone. I want to ask something of the honourable member. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Ken Travers! The Minister for Education and Training is bringing her answer to a close, but she is prevented from doing so because of the cross-chamber interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The member put out a press release on 21 August saying that he had visited dozens of schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Ken Travers! The Minister for Education and Training is bringing her answer to a close, but she is prevented from doing so because of the cross-chamber interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The member put out a press release on 21 August saying that he had visited dozens of schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Ken Travers! The Minister for Education and Training is bringing her answer to a close, but she is prevented from doing so because of the cross-chamber interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The member put out a press release on 21 August saying that he had visited dozens of schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Ken Travers! The Minister for Education and Training is bringing her answer to a close, but she is prevented from doing so because of the cross-chamber interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The member put out a press release on 21 August saying that he had visited dozens of schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Ken Travers! The Minister for Education and Training is bringing her answer to a close, but she is prevented from doing so because of the cross-chamber interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The member put out a press release on 21 August saying that he had visited dozens of schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The member put out a press release on 21 August saying that he had visited dozens of schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
The member put out a press release on 21 August saying that he had visited dozens of schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
The Minister’s Office has requested the names of all the schools visited across the State by Hon Peter Collier (see today’s Inside Cover ).
(2) Given that I had written and verbal advice from the office of the Minister for Education and Training that the correct protocol for visiting public schools was through direct contact with individual school principals, will the minister please confirm the correct protocol for my visits to public schools? (3) Will the minister confirm that as shadow Minister for Education and Training I am welcome to visit public schools? (4) If yes to (3), in order to allay any concerns that principals may have, will the minister ensure that public schools are made aware that I am welcome to visit their schools; and, if not, why not? Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: (1)-(4) Finally! He has been shadow spokesperson for education and training for six months, and finally he goes out and visits some schools! It is long overdue! I just hope the member was not teaching handwriting or ethics to our children, but, anyway, he has gone to the schools. The member is referring in his question to a time when I was on leave, albeit it was reported by The West Australian as a holiday, which would imply that I had probably gone to Bali and back, but I had not. In fact, I had taken two weeks’ leave to attend to some personal business. In relation to the specific question, yes, the member is welcome to go to schools. However, the member purports to have a letter signed by a former member of my staff, giving him permission to do so. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That was information or an e-mail that had been written for Hon Simon O’Brien as the former shadow spokesperson for education and training. However, that is not what the member stated. The member stated that he had a letter. The member actually gets confused about who he is and what he is able to do. Hon Peter Collier : No. I had written permission. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member seems to get very confused about who he is. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, and it is not enrolment time for the Liberal Party. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, so he personally does not have a letter from anyone. I want to ask something of the honourable member. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Ken Travers! The Minister for Education and Training is bringing her answer to a close, but she is prevented from doing so because of the cross-chamber interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The member put out a press release on 21 August saying that he had visited dozens of schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
(3) Will the minister confirm that as shadow Minister for Education and Training I am welcome to visit public schools? (4) If yes to (3), in order to allay any concerns that principals may have, will the minister ensure that public schools are made aware that I am welcome to visit their schools; and, if not, why not? Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: (1)-(4) Finally! He has been shadow spokesperson for education and training for six months, and finally he goes out and visits some schools! It is long overdue! I just hope the member was not teaching handwriting or ethics to our children, but, anyway, he has gone to the schools. The member is referring in his question to a time when I was on leave, albeit it was reported by The West Australian as a holiday, which would imply that I had probably gone to Bali and back, but I had not. In fact, I had taken two weeks’ leave to attend to some personal business. In relation to the specific question, yes, the member is welcome to go to schools. However, the member purports to have a letter signed by a former member of my staff, giving him permission to do so. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That was information or an e-mail that had been written for Hon Simon O’Brien as the former shadow spokesperson for education and training. However, that is not what the member stated. The member stated that he had a letter. The member actually gets confused about who he is and what he is able to do. Hon Peter Collier : No. I had written permission. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member seems to get very confused about who he is. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, and it is not enrolment time for the Liberal Party. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, so he personally does not have a letter from anyone. I want to ask something of the honourable member. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Ken Travers! The Minister for Education and Training is bringing her answer to a close, but she is prevented from doing so because of the cross-chamber interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The member put out a press release on 21 August saying that he had visited dozens of schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
(4) If yes to (3), in order to allay any concerns that principals may have, will the minister ensure that public schools are made aware that I am welcome to visit their schools; and, if not, why not? Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: (1)-(4) Finally! He has been shadow spokesperson for education and training for six months, and finally he goes out and visits some schools! It is long overdue! I just hope the member was not teaching handwriting or ethics to our children, but, anyway, he has gone to the schools. The member is referring in his question to a time when I was on leave, albeit it was reported by The West Australian as a holiday, which would imply that I had probably gone to Bali and back, but I had not. In fact, I had taken two weeks’ leave to attend to some personal business. In relation to the specific question, yes, the member is welcome to go to schools. However, the member purports to have a letter signed by a former member of my staff, giving him permission to do so. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That was information or an e-mail that had been written for Hon Simon O’Brien as the former shadow spokesperson for education and training. However, that is not what the member stated. The member stated that he had a letter. The member actually gets confused about who he is and what he is able to do. Hon Peter Collier : No. I had written permission. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member seems to get very confused about who he is. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, and it is not enrolment time for the Liberal Party. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, so he personally does not have a letter from anyone. I want to ask something of the honourable member. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Ken Travers! The Minister for Education and Training is bringing her answer to a close, but she is prevented from doing so because of the cross-chamber interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The member put out a press release on 21 August saying that he had visited dozens of schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: (1)-(4) Finally! He has been shadow spokesperson for education and training for six months, and finally he goes out and visits some schools! It is long overdue! I just hope the member was not teaching handwriting or ethics to our children, but, anyway, he has gone to the schools. The member is referring in his question to a time when I was on leave, albeit it was reported by The West Australian as a holiday, which would imply that I had probably gone to Bali and back, but I had not. In fact, I had taken two weeks’ leave to attend to some personal business. In relation to the specific question, yes, the member is welcome to go to schools. However, the member purports to have a letter signed by a former member of my staff, giving him permission to do so. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That was information or an e-mail that had been written for Hon Simon O’Brien as the former shadow spokesperson for education and training. However, that is not what the member stated. The member stated that he had a letter. The member actually gets confused about who he is and what he is able to do. Hon Peter Collier : No. I had written permission. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member seems to get very confused about who he is. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, and it is not enrolment time for the Liberal Party. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, so he personally does not have a letter from anyone. I want to ask something of the honourable member. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Ken Travers! The Minister for Education and Training is bringing her answer to a close, but she is prevented from doing so because of the cross-chamber interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The member put out a press release on 21 August saying that he had visited dozens of schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: (1)-(4) Finally! He has been shadow spokesperson for education and training for six months, and finally he goes out and visits some schools! It is long overdue! I just hope the member was not teaching handwriting or ethics to our children, but, anyway, he has gone to the schools. The member is referring in his question to a time when I was on leave, albeit it was reported by The West Australian as a holiday, which would imply that I had probably gone to Bali and back, but I had not. In fact, I had taken two weeks’ leave to attend to some personal business. In relation to the specific question, yes, the member is welcome to go to schools. However, the member purports to have a letter signed by a former member of my staff, giving him permission to do so. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That was information or an e-mail that had been written for Hon Simon O’Brien as the former shadow spokesperson for education and training. However, that is not what the member stated. The member stated that he had a letter. The member actually gets confused about who he is and what he is able to do. Hon Peter Collier : No. I had written permission. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member seems to get very confused about who he is. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, and it is not enrolment time for the Liberal Party. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, so he personally does not have a letter from anyone. I want to ask something of the honourable member. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Ken Travers! The Minister for Education and Training is bringing her answer to a close, but she is prevented from doing so because of the cross-chamber interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The member put out a press release on 21 August saying that he had visited dozens of schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: (1)-(4) Finally! He has been shadow spokesperson for education and training for six months, and finally he goes out and visits some schools! It is long overdue! I just hope the member was not teaching handwriting or ethics to our children, but, anyway, he has gone to the schools. The member is referring in his question to a time when I was on leave, albeit it was reported by The West Australian as a holiday, which would imply that I had probably gone to Bali and back, but I had not. In fact, I had taken two weeks’ leave to attend to some personal business. In relation to the specific question, yes, the member is welcome to go to schools. However, the member purports to have a letter signed by a former member of my staff, giving him permission to do so. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That was information or an e-mail that had been written for Hon Simon O’Brien as the former shadow spokesperson for education and training. However, that is not what the member stated. The member stated that he had a letter. The member actually gets confused about who he is and what he is able to do. Hon Peter Collier : No. I had written permission. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member seems to get very confused about who he is. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, and it is not enrolment time for the Liberal Party. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, so he personally does not have a letter from anyone. I want to ask something of the honourable member. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Ken Travers! The Minister for Education and Training is bringing her answer to a close, but she is prevented from doing so because of the cross-chamber interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The member put out a press release on 21 August saying that he had visited dozens of schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
(1)-(4) Finally! He has been shadow spokesperson for education and training for six months, and finally he goes out and visits some schools! It is long overdue! I just hope the member was not teaching handwriting or ethics to our children, but, anyway, he has gone to the schools. The member is referring in his question to a time when I was on leave, albeit it was reported by The West Australian as a holiday, which would imply that I had probably gone to Bali and back, but I had not. In fact, I had taken two weeks’ leave to attend to some personal business. In relation to the specific question, yes, the member is welcome to go to schools. However, the member purports to have a letter signed by a former member of my staff, giving him permission to do so. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That was information or an e-mail that had been written for Hon Simon O’Brien as the former shadow spokesperson for education and training. However, that is not what the member stated. The member stated that he had a letter. The member actually gets confused about who he is and what he is able to do. Hon Peter Collier : No. I had written permission. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member seems to get very confused about who he is. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, and it is not enrolment time for the Liberal Party. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, so he personally does not have a letter from anyone. I want to ask something of the honourable member. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Ken Travers! The Minister for Education and Training is bringing her answer to a close, but she is prevented from doing so because of the cross-chamber interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The member put out a press release on 21 August saying that he had visited dozens of schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That was information or an e-mail that had been written for Hon Simon O’Brien as the former shadow spokesperson for education and training. However, that is not what the member stated. The member stated that he had a letter. The member actually gets confused about who he is and what he is able to do. Hon Peter Collier : No. I had written permission. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member seems to get very confused about who he is. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, and it is not enrolment time for the Liberal Party. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, so he personally does not have a letter from anyone. I want to ask something of the honourable member. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Ken Travers! The Minister for Education and Training is bringing her answer to a close, but she is prevented from doing so because of the cross-chamber interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The member put out a press release on 21 August saying that he had visited dozens of schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That was information or an e-mail that had been written for Hon Simon O’Brien as the former shadow spokesperson for education and training. However, that is not what the member stated. The member stated that he had a letter. The member actually gets confused about who he is and what he is able to do. Hon Peter Collier : No. I had written permission. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member seems to get very confused about who he is. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, and it is not enrolment time for the Liberal Party. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, so he personally does not have a letter from anyone. I want to ask something of the honourable member. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Ken Travers! The Minister for Education and Training is bringing her answer to a close, but she is prevented from doing so because of the cross-chamber interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The member put out a press release on 21 August saying that he had visited dozens of schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
Hon Peter Collier : No. I had written permission. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member seems to get very confused about who he is. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, and it is not enrolment time for the Liberal Party. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, so he personally does not have a letter from anyone. I want to ask something of the honourable member. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Ken Travers! The Minister for Education and Training is bringing her answer to a close, but she is prevented from doing so because of the cross-chamber interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The member put out a press release on 21 August saying that he had visited dozens of schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member seems to get very confused about who he is. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, and it is not enrolment time for the Liberal Party. Hon Peter Collier is not Hon Simon O’Brien, so he personally does not have a letter from anyone. I want to ask something of the honourable member. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Ken Travers! The Minister for Education and Training is bringing her answer to a close, but she is prevented from doing so because of the cross-chamber interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The member put out a press release on 21 August saying that he had visited dozens of schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Ken Travers! The Minister for Education and Training is bringing her answer to a close, but she is prevented from doing so because of the cross-chamber interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The member put out a press release on 21 August saying that he had visited dozens of schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Ken Travers! The Minister for Education and Training is bringing her answer to a close, but she is prevented from doing so because of the cross-chamber interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The member put out a press release on 21 August saying that he had visited dozens of schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Ken Travers! The Minister for Education and Training is bringing her answer to a close, but she is prevented from doing so because of the cross-chamber interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The member put out a press release on 21 August saying that he had visited dozens of schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Ken Travers! The Minister for Education and Training is bringing her answer to a close, but she is prevented from doing so because of the cross-chamber interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The member put out a press release on 21 August saying that he had visited dozens of schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The member put out a press release on 21 August saying that he had visited dozens of schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
The member put out a press release on 21 August saying that he had visited dozens of schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
Hon Peter Collier : That is correct. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I would like the member to provide me with a list of the dozens of schools - Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
Hon Peter Collier : Why would you like that? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hang on! One source has the member visiting 16 schools. Sixteen schools is not dozens of schools. We know how lax the member is with his interpretation of the truth. The member does not know who he is and where he has been. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : Mr President, the tirade that we are now hearing has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked. I ask that you request the minister to at least try to roughly answer the question, if not make some effort to do so, instead of just going on with this tirade every time she opens her mouth. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Norman Moore has raised an issue. There is no point of order, but I note that the Minister for Education and Training will be bringing her answer to a close shortly. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Thank you, Mr President. The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
The only point I want to make is that it was reported in The West Australian on 15 August that Mr Collier had visited 40 schools. On 16 August it said 30 schools. His web site lists 16 schools. Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
Hon Peter Collier : That is country schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : In his media statement, he refers to dozens of schools. I want to have some confidence in what the member says, because, frankly, to date I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says. The reason I have not been able to have confidence in what the member says is that we know that the member is very liberal with his signatures. We know that the member purports to be someone else. We know that he is very lax with the truth.
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