❓ The Minister defends the re-opening and expansion of Pardelup Prison Farm, highlighting its under-utilisation under the previous Labor government and its potential to alleviate prison overcrowding and contribute to the prison system's food supply.
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PARDELUP PRISON FARM
I refer to the re-opening and the expansion of the Pardelup Prison Farm in the Plantagenet shire near Mt Barker in the member for Blackwood–Stirling’s electorate. Can the minister please advise how Pardelup Prison Farm will play an important part in the government’s responsible management of the state’s prisons? Mr C.C. PORTER
I refer to the re-opening and the expansion of the Pardelup Prison Farm in the Plantagenet shire near Mt Barker in the member for Blackwood–Stirling’s electorate. Can the minister please advise how Pardelup Prison Farm will play an important part in the government’s responsible management of the state’s prisons? Mr C.C. PORTER
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I thank the member for his question. I also thank the member for Blackwood–Stirling for his ongoing interest in this facility located in his electorate. When I became Minister for Corrective Services, we obviously inherited a system with a significant level of overcrowding, but we did not inherit any plans for dealing with that situation. The first thing that I did was travel to all the facilities in Western Australia to try to find any facilities that were under-utilised. Of course, the first part of our strategy has been to put in 600 beds, which was done by the end of Christmas last year, by looking at areas in which refurbishments could be undertaken and at under-utilised facilities. Mr P. Papalia : That is not true. Mr C.C. PORTER : I will get to “not true” in a moment because I will read out a few of the member’s statements. Pardelup Prison Farm was the most astounding correctional facility that I saw in my travels across the state. When I visited in January or February 2009, when there was overcrowding, I saw that Labor had been maintaining Pardelup, which is a very large facility, with capacity for 20 people. For more than three-quarters of a century, it had had capacity for 84 people, yet during a time of overcrowding, it had capacity for 20. Pardelup is 6 300 acres of prison farm. On the day I visited, which was shortly after taking government and during a period of overcrowding, there were 12 people there. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point, member for Warnbro, is that we had overcrowding — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I mentioned to you earlier that you have opportunities to ask questions. Continual interjecting will cause me to call you for the second time formally. Mr C.C. PORTER : The member for Warnbro criticises us for the fact of overcrowding, and it is a fact; and he criticises us for building capacity. That is an odd policy position. Where does it leave us in terms of Labor’s policy? After we opened these excellent beds at Pardelup, the member for Warnbro was, according to my notes, reported on GWN or WIN as saying — There’s a desperate need for the government to focus on preventing people getting in trouble and going into the prison system in the first place and reducing the rate of reoffending … Of course, we have missed the solution! We just need to make sure that everyone is nice to each other, ladies and gentlemen! That is the solution to prison overcrowding. We do not need to build capacity. Jesus loves us, so we just need to put signs up at the side of the road. It is an absolutely ridiculous statement. If members believe that that is proper policy, why did it not work in eight years under a Labor government? Members should ask this question: why was it that in eight years under Labor, when it had a strategy to reduce imprisonment, there was a growing prison population? Where was the magic, member for Warnbro, in those eight years? Where was the magic solution? There is not one. What we have done at Pardelup is look at a sensible way to utilise an under-utilised facility. This facility, with 6 300 acres and 12 people, had a lower population density under Labor during a time of overcrowding than that of Namibia and French Guinea but, thankfully, a greater population density than the Western Sahara. We have taken an under-utilised facility and we will stock it with up to 84 prisoners at minimal cost to the state because the prisoners have built the facilities. This will interest my friends from the Nationals: the facility has 1 000 head of breeding cattle and 2 500 breeding sheep—presumably, not all breeding at the same time. We are cropping 800 tonnes of hay and $700 000 worth of blue gums. This facility will now support 70 per cent of the beef going into the entire prison system. When Labor had it and I visited it, there were 12 people there.
Mr C.C. PORTER replied: I thank the member for his question. I also thank the member for Blackwood–Stirling for his ongoing interest in this facility located in his electorate. When I became Minister for Corrective Services, we obviously inherited a system with a significant level of overcrowding, but we did not inherit any plans for dealing with that situation. The first thing that I did was travel to all the facilities in Western Australia to try to find any facilities that were under-utilised. Of course, the first part of our strategy has been to put in 600 beds, which was done by the end of Christmas last year, by looking at areas in which refurbishments could be undertaken and at under-utilised facilities. Mr P. Papalia : That is not true. Mr C.C. PORTER : I will get to “not true” in a moment because I will read out a few of the member’s statements. Pardelup Prison Farm was the most astounding correctional facility that I saw in my travels across the state. When I visited in January or February 2009, when there was overcrowding, I saw that Labor had been maintaining Pardelup, which is a very large facility, with capacity for 20 people. For more than three-quarters of a century, it had had capacity for 84 people, yet during a time of overcrowding, it had capacity for 20. Pardelup is 6 300 acres of prison farm. On the day I visited, which was shortly after taking government and during a period of overcrowding, there were 12 people there. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point, member for Warnbro, is that we had overcrowding — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I mentioned to you earlier that you have opportunities to ask questions. Continual interjecting will cause me to call you for the second time formally. Mr C.C. PORTER : The member for Warnbro criticises us for the fact of overcrowding, and it is a fact; and he criticises us for building capacity. That is an odd policy position. Where does it leave us in terms of Labor’s policy? After we opened these excellent beds at Pardelup, the member for Warnbro was, according to my notes, reported on GWN or WIN as saying — There’s a desperate need for the government to focus on preventing people getting in trouble and going into the prison system in the first place and reducing the rate of reoffending … Of course, we have missed the solution! We just need to make sure that everyone is nice to each other, ladies and gentlemen! That is the solution to prison overcrowding. We do not need to build capacity. Jesus loves us, so we just need to put signs up at the side of the road. It is an absolutely ridiculous statement. If members believe that that is proper policy, why did it not work in eight years under a Labor government? Members should ask this question: why was it that in eight years under Labor, when it had a strategy to reduce imprisonment, there was a growing prison population? Where was the magic, member for Warnbro, in those eight years? Where was the magic solution? There is not one. What we have done at Pardelup is look at a sensible way to utilise an under-utilised facility. This facility, with 6 300 acres and 12 people, had a lower population density under Labor during a time of overcrowding than that of Namibia and French Guinea but, thankfully, a greater population density than the Western Sahara. We have taken an under-utilised facility and we will stock it with up to 84 prisoners at minimal cost to the state because the prisoners have built the facilities. This will interest my friends from the Nationals: the facility has 1 000 head of breeding cattle and 2 500 breeding sheep—presumably, not all breeding at the same time. We are cropping 800 tonnes of hay and $700 000 worth of blue gums. This facility will now support 70 per cent of the beef going into the entire prison system. When Labor had it and I visited it, there were 12 people there.
I thank the member for his question. I also thank the member for Blackwood–Stirling for his ongoing interest in this facility located in his electorate. When I became Minister for Corrective Services, we obviously inherited a system with a significant level of overcrowding, but we did not inherit any plans for dealing with that situation. The first thing that I did was travel to all the facilities in Western Australia to try to find any facilities that were under-utilised. Of course, the first part of our strategy has been to put in 600 beds, which was done by the end of Christmas last year, by looking at areas in which refurbishments could be undertaken and at under-utilised facilities. Mr P. Papalia : That is not true. Mr C.C. PORTER : I will get to “not true” in a moment because I will read out a few of the member’s statements. Pardelup Prison Farm was the most astounding correctional facility that I saw in my travels across the state. When I visited in January or February 2009, when there was overcrowding, I saw that Labor had been maintaining Pardelup, which is a very large facility, with capacity for 20 people. For more than three-quarters of a century, it had had capacity for 84 people, yet during a time of overcrowding, it had capacity for 20. Pardelup is 6 300 acres of prison farm. On the day I visited, which was shortly after taking government and during a period of overcrowding, there were 12 people there. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point, member for Warnbro, is that we had overcrowding — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I mentioned to you earlier that you have opportunities to ask questions. Continual interjecting will cause me to call you for the second time formally. Mr C.C. PORTER : The member for Warnbro criticises us for the fact of overcrowding, and it is a fact; and he criticises us for building capacity. That is an odd policy position. Where does it leave us in terms of Labor’s policy? After we opened these excellent beds at Pardelup, the member for Warnbro was, according to my notes, reported on GWN or WIN as saying — There’s a desperate need for the government to focus on preventing people getting in trouble and going into the prison system in the first place and reducing the rate of reoffending … Of course, we have missed the solution! We just need to make sure that everyone is nice to each other, ladies and gentlemen! That is the solution to prison overcrowding. We do not need to build capacity. Jesus loves us, so we just need to put signs up at the side of the road. It is an absolutely ridiculous statement. If members believe that that is proper policy, why did it not work in eight years under a Labor government? Members should ask this question: why was it that in eight years under Labor, when it had a strategy to reduce imprisonment, there was a growing prison population? Where was the magic, member for Warnbro, in those eight years? Where was the magic solution? There is not one. What we have done at Pardelup is look at a sensible way to utilise an under-utilised facility. This facility, with 6 300 acres and 12 people, had a lower population density under Labor during a time of overcrowding than that of Namibia and French Guinea but, thankfully, a greater population density than the Western Sahara. We have taken an under-utilised facility and we will stock it with up to 84 prisoners at minimal cost to the state because the prisoners have built the facilities. This will interest my friends from the Nationals: the facility has 1 000 head of breeding cattle and 2 500 breeding sheep—presumably, not all breeding at the same time. We are cropping 800 tonnes of hay and $700 000 worth of blue gums. This facility will now support 70 per cent of the beef going into the entire prison system. When Labor had it and I visited it, there were 12 people there.
Mr P. Papalia : That is not true. Mr C.C. PORTER : I will get to “not true” in a moment because I will read out a few of the member’s statements. Pardelup Prison Farm was the most astounding correctional facility that I saw in my travels across the state. When I visited in January or February 2009, when there was overcrowding, I saw that Labor had been maintaining Pardelup, which is a very large facility, with capacity for 20 people. For more than three-quarters of a century, it had had capacity for 84 people, yet during a time of overcrowding, it had capacity for 20. Pardelup is 6 300 acres of prison farm. On the day I visited, which was shortly after taking government and during a period of overcrowding, there were 12 people there. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point, member for Warnbro, is that we had overcrowding — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I mentioned to you earlier that you have opportunities to ask questions. Continual interjecting will cause me to call you for the second time formally. Mr C.C. PORTER : The member for Warnbro criticises us for the fact of overcrowding, and it is a fact; and he criticises us for building capacity. That is an odd policy position. Where does it leave us in terms of Labor’s policy? After we opened these excellent beds at Pardelup, the member for Warnbro was, according to my notes, reported on GWN or WIN as saying — There’s a desperate need for the government to focus on preventing people getting in trouble and going into the prison system in the first place and reducing the rate of reoffending … Of course, we have missed the solution! We just need to make sure that everyone is nice to each other, ladies and gentlemen! That is the solution to prison overcrowding. We do not need to build capacity. Jesus loves us, so we just need to put signs up at the side of the road. It is an absolutely ridiculous statement. If members believe that that is proper policy, why did it not work in eight years under a Labor government? Members should ask this question: why was it that in eight years under Labor, when it had a strategy to reduce imprisonment, there was a growing prison population? Where was the magic, member for Warnbro, in those eight years? Where was the magic solution? There is not one. What we have done at Pardelup is look at a sensible way to utilise an under-utilised facility. This facility, with 6 300 acres and 12 people, had a lower population density under Labor during a time of overcrowding than that of Namibia and French Guinea but, thankfully, a greater population density than the Western Sahara. We have taken an under-utilised facility and we will stock it with up to 84 prisoners at minimal cost to the state because the prisoners have built the facilities. This will interest my friends from the Nationals: the facility has 1 000 head of breeding cattle and 2 500 breeding sheep—presumably, not all breeding at the same time. We are cropping 800 tonnes of hay and $700 000 worth of blue gums. This facility will now support 70 per cent of the beef going into the entire prison system. When Labor had it and I visited it, there were 12 people there.
Mr C.C. PORTER : I will get to “not true” in a moment because I will read out a few of the member’s statements. Pardelup Prison Farm was the most astounding correctional facility that I saw in my travels across the state. When I visited in January or February 2009, when there was overcrowding, I saw that Labor had been maintaining Pardelup, which is a very large facility, with capacity for 20 people. For more than three-quarters of a century, it had had capacity for 84 people, yet during a time of overcrowding, it had capacity for 20. Pardelup is 6 300 acres of prison farm. On the day I visited, which was shortly after taking government and during a period of overcrowding, there were 12 people there. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point, member for Warnbro, is that we had overcrowding — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I mentioned to you earlier that you have opportunities to ask questions. Continual interjecting will cause me to call you for the second time formally. Mr C.C. PORTER : The member for Warnbro criticises us for the fact of overcrowding, and it is a fact; and he criticises us for building capacity. That is an odd policy position. Where does it leave us in terms of Labor’s policy? After we opened these excellent beds at Pardelup, the member for Warnbro was, according to my notes, reported on GWN or WIN as saying — There’s a desperate need for the government to focus on preventing people getting in trouble and going into the prison system in the first place and reducing the rate of reoffending … Of course, we have missed the solution! We just need to make sure that everyone is nice to each other, ladies and gentlemen! That is the solution to prison overcrowding. We do not need to build capacity. Jesus loves us, so we just need to put signs up at the side of the road. It is an absolutely ridiculous statement. If members believe that that is proper policy, why did it not work in eight years under a Labor government? Members should ask this question: why was it that in eight years under Labor, when it had a strategy to reduce imprisonment, there was a growing prison population? Where was the magic, member for Warnbro, in those eight years? Where was the magic solution? There is not one. What we have done at Pardelup is look at a sensible way to utilise an under-utilised facility. This facility, with 6 300 acres and 12 people, had a lower population density under Labor during a time of overcrowding than that of Namibia and French Guinea but, thankfully, a greater population density than the Western Sahara. We have taken an under-utilised facility and we will stock it with up to 84 prisoners at minimal cost to the state because the prisoners have built the facilities. This will interest my friends from the Nationals: the facility has 1 000 head of breeding cattle and 2 500 breeding sheep—presumably, not all breeding at the same time. We are cropping 800 tonnes of hay and $700 000 worth of blue gums. This facility will now support 70 per cent of the beef going into the entire prison system. When Labor had it and I visited it, there were 12 people there.
Pardelup Prison Farm was the most astounding correctional facility that I saw in my travels across the state. When I visited in January or February 2009, when there was overcrowding, I saw that Labor had been maintaining Pardelup, which is a very large facility, with capacity for 20 people. For more than three-quarters of a century, it had had capacity for 84 people, yet during a time of overcrowding, it had capacity for 20. Pardelup is 6 300 acres of prison farm. On the day I visited, which was shortly after taking government and during a period of overcrowding, there were 12 people there. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point, member for Warnbro, is that we had overcrowding — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I mentioned to you earlier that you have opportunities to ask questions. Continual interjecting will cause me to call you for the second time formally. Mr C.C. PORTER : The member for Warnbro criticises us for the fact of overcrowding, and it is a fact; and he criticises us for building capacity. That is an odd policy position. Where does it leave us in terms of Labor’s policy? After we opened these excellent beds at Pardelup, the member for Warnbro was, according to my notes, reported on GWN or WIN as saying — There’s a desperate need for the government to focus on preventing people getting in trouble and going into the prison system in the first place and reducing the rate of reoffending … Of course, we have missed the solution! We just need to make sure that everyone is nice to each other, ladies and gentlemen! That is the solution to prison overcrowding. We do not need to build capacity. Jesus loves us, so we just need to put signs up at the side of the road. It is an absolutely ridiculous statement. If members believe that that is proper policy, why did it not work in eight years under a Labor government? Members should ask this question: why was it that in eight years under Labor, when it had a strategy to reduce imprisonment, there was a growing prison population? Where was the magic, member for Warnbro, in those eight years? Where was the magic solution? There is not one. What we have done at Pardelup is look at a sensible way to utilise an under-utilised facility. This facility, with 6 300 acres and 12 people, had a lower population density under Labor during a time of overcrowding than that of Namibia and French Guinea but, thankfully, a greater population density than the Western Sahara. We have taken an under-utilised facility and we will stock it with up to 84 prisoners at minimal cost to the state because the prisoners have built the facilities. This will interest my friends from the Nationals: the facility has 1 000 head of breeding cattle and 2 500 breeding sheep—presumably, not all breeding at the same time. We are cropping 800 tonnes of hay and $700 000 worth of blue gums. This facility will now support 70 per cent of the beef going into the entire prison system. When Labor had it and I visited it, there were 12 people there.
Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point, member for Warnbro, is that we had overcrowding — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I mentioned to you earlier that you have opportunities to ask questions. Continual interjecting will cause me to call you for the second time formally. Mr C.C. PORTER : The member for Warnbro criticises us for the fact of overcrowding, and it is a fact; and he criticises us for building capacity. That is an odd policy position. Where does it leave us in terms of Labor’s policy? After we opened these excellent beds at Pardelup, the member for Warnbro was, according to my notes, reported on GWN or WIN as saying — There’s a desperate need for the government to focus on preventing people getting in trouble and going into the prison system in the first place and reducing the rate of reoffending … Of course, we have missed the solution! We just need to make sure that everyone is nice to each other, ladies and gentlemen! That is the solution to prison overcrowding. We do not need to build capacity. Jesus loves us, so we just need to put signs up at the side of the road. It is an absolutely ridiculous statement. If members believe that that is proper policy, why did it not work in eight years under a Labor government? Members should ask this question: why was it that in eight years under Labor, when it had a strategy to reduce imprisonment, there was a growing prison population? Where was the magic, member for Warnbro, in those eight years? Where was the magic solution? There is not one. What we have done at Pardelup is look at a sensible way to utilise an under-utilised facility. This facility, with 6 300 acres and 12 people, had a lower population density under Labor during a time of overcrowding than that of Namibia and French Guinea but, thankfully, a greater population density than the Western Sahara. We have taken an under-utilised facility and we will stock it with up to 84 prisoners at minimal cost to the state because the prisoners have built the facilities. This will interest my friends from the Nationals: the facility has 1 000 head of breeding cattle and 2 500 breeding sheep—presumably, not all breeding at the same time. We are cropping 800 tonnes of hay and $700 000 worth of blue gums. This facility will now support 70 per cent of the beef going into the entire prison system. When Labor had it and I visited it, there were 12 people there.
Mr C.C. PORTER : The point, member for Warnbro, is that we had overcrowding — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I mentioned to you earlier that you have opportunities to ask questions. Continual interjecting will cause me to call you for the second time formally. Mr C.C. PORTER : The member for Warnbro criticises us for the fact of overcrowding, and it is a fact; and he criticises us for building capacity. That is an odd policy position. Where does it leave us in terms of Labor’s policy? After we opened these excellent beds at Pardelup, the member for Warnbro was, according to my notes, reported on GWN or WIN as saying — There’s a desperate need for the government to focus on preventing people getting in trouble and going into the prison system in the first place and reducing the rate of reoffending … Of course, we have missed the solution! We just need to make sure that everyone is nice to each other, ladies and gentlemen! That is the solution to prison overcrowding. We do not need to build capacity. Jesus loves us, so we just need to put signs up at the side of the road. It is an absolutely ridiculous statement. If members believe that that is proper policy, why did it not work in eight years under a Labor government? Members should ask this question: why was it that in eight years under Labor, when it had a strategy to reduce imprisonment, there was a growing prison population? Where was the magic, member for Warnbro, in those eight years? Where was the magic solution? There is not one. What we have done at Pardelup is look at a sensible way to utilise an under-utilised facility. This facility, with 6 300 acres and 12 people, had a lower population density under Labor during a time of overcrowding than that of Namibia and French Guinea but, thankfully, a greater population density than the Western Sahara. We have taken an under-utilised facility and we will stock it with up to 84 prisoners at minimal cost to the state because the prisoners have built the facilities. This will interest my friends from the Nationals: the facility has 1 000 head of breeding cattle and 2 500 breeding sheep—presumably, not all breeding at the same time. We are cropping 800 tonnes of hay and $700 000 worth of blue gums. This facility will now support 70 per cent of the beef going into the entire prison system. When Labor had it and I visited it, there were 12 people there.
Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I mentioned to you earlier that you have opportunities to ask questions. Continual interjecting will cause me to call you for the second time formally. Mr C.C. PORTER : The member for Warnbro criticises us for the fact of overcrowding, and it is a fact; and he criticises us for building capacity. That is an odd policy position. Where does it leave us in terms of Labor’s policy? After we opened these excellent beds at Pardelup, the member for Warnbro was, according to my notes, reported on GWN or WIN as saying — There’s a desperate need for the government to focus on preventing people getting in trouble and going into the prison system in the first place and reducing the rate of reoffending … Of course, we have missed the solution! We just need to make sure that everyone is nice to each other, ladies and gentlemen! That is the solution to prison overcrowding. We do not need to build capacity. Jesus loves us, so we just need to put signs up at the side of the road. It is an absolutely ridiculous statement. If members believe that that is proper policy, why did it not work in eight years under a Labor government? Members should ask this question: why was it that in eight years under Labor, when it had a strategy to reduce imprisonment, there was a growing prison population? Where was the magic, member for Warnbro, in those eight years? Where was the magic solution? There is not one. What we have done at Pardelup is look at a sensible way to utilise an under-utilised facility. This facility, with 6 300 acres and 12 people, had a lower population density under Labor during a time of overcrowding than that of Namibia and French Guinea but, thankfully, a greater population density than the Western Sahara. We have taken an under-utilised facility and we will stock it with up to 84 prisoners at minimal cost to the state because the prisoners have built the facilities. This will interest my friends from the Nationals: the facility has 1 000 head of breeding cattle and 2 500 breeding sheep—presumably, not all breeding at the same time. We are cropping 800 tonnes of hay and $700 000 worth of blue gums. This facility will now support 70 per cent of the beef going into the entire prison system. When Labor had it and I visited it, there were 12 people there.
The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I mentioned to you earlier that you have opportunities to ask questions. Continual interjecting will cause me to call you for the second time formally. Mr C.C. PORTER : The member for Warnbro criticises us for the fact of overcrowding, and it is a fact; and he criticises us for building capacity. That is an odd policy position. Where does it leave us in terms of Labor’s policy? After we opened these excellent beds at Pardelup, the member for Warnbro was, according to my notes, reported on GWN or WIN as saying — There’s a desperate need for the government to focus on preventing people getting in trouble and going into the prison system in the first place and reducing the rate of reoffending … Of course, we have missed the solution! We just need to make sure that everyone is nice to each other, ladies and gentlemen! That is the solution to prison overcrowding. We do not need to build capacity. Jesus loves us, so we just need to put signs up at the side of the road. It is an absolutely ridiculous statement. If members believe that that is proper policy, why did it not work in eight years under a Labor government? Members should ask this question: why was it that in eight years under Labor, when it had a strategy to reduce imprisonment, there was a growing prison population? Where was the magic, member for Warnbro, in those eight years? Where was the magic solution? There is not one. What we have done at Pardelup is look at a sensible way to utilise an under-utilised facility. This facility, with 6 300 acres and 12 people, had a lower population density under Labor during a time of overcrowding than that of Namibia and French Guinea but, thankfully, a greater population density than the Western Sahara. We have taken an under-utilised facility and we will stock it with up to 84 prisoners at minimal cost to the state because the prisoners have built the facilities. This will interest my friends from the Nationals: the facility has 1 000 head of breeding cattle and 2 500 breeding sheep—presumably, not all breeding at the same time. We are cropping 800 tonnes of hay and $700 000 worth of blue gums. This facility will now support 70 per cent of the beef going into the entire prison system. When Labor had it and I visited it, there were 12 people there.
Mr C.C. PORTER : The member for Warnbro criticises us for the fact of overcrowding, and it is a fact; and he criticises us for building capacity. That is an odd policy position. Where does it leave us in terms of Labor’s policy? After we opened these excellent beds at Pardelup, the member for Warnbro was, according to my notes, reported on GWN or WIN as saying — There’s a desperate need for the government to focus on preventing people getting in trouble and going into the prison system in the first place and reducing the rate of reoffending … Of course, we have missed the solution! We just need to make sure that everyone is nice to each other, ladies and gentlemen! That is the solution to prison overcrowding. We do not need to build capacity. Jesus loves us, so we just need to put signs up at the side of the road. It is an absolutely ridiculous statement. If members believe that that is proper policy, why did it not work in eight years under a Labor government? Members should ask this question: why was it that in eight years under Labor, when it had a strategy to reduce imprisonment, there was a growing prison population? Where was the magic, member for Warnbro, in those eight years? Where was the magic solution? There is not one. What we have done at Pardelup is look at a sensible way to utilise an under-utilised facility. This facility, with 6 300 acres and 12 people, had a lower population density under Labor during a time of overcrowding than that of Namibia and French Guinea but, thankfully, a greater population density than the Western Sahara. We have taken an under-utilised facility and we will stock it with up to 84 prisoners at minimal cost to the state because the prisoners have built the facilities. This will interest my friends from the Nationals: the facility has 1 000 head of breeding cattle and 2 500 breeding sheep—presumably, not all breeding at the same time. We are cropping 800 tonnes of hay and $700 000 worth of blue gums. This facility will now support 70 per cent of the beef going into the entire prison system. When Labor had it and I visited it, there were 12 people there.
Mr C.C. PORTER replied: I thank the member for his question. I also thank the member for Blackwood–Stirling for his ongoing interest in this facility located in his electorate. When I became Minister for Corrective Services, we obviously inherited a system with a significant level of overcrowding, but we did not inherit any plans for dealing with that situation. The first thing that I did was travel to all the facilities in Western Australia to try to find any facilities that were under-utilised. Of course, the first part of our strategy has been to put in 600 beds, which was done by the end of Christmas last year, by looking at areas in which refurbishments could be undertaken and at under-utilised facilities. Mr P. Papalia : That is not true. Mr C.C. PORTER : I will get to “not true” in a moment because I will read out a few of the member’s statements. Pardelup Prison Farm was the most astounding correctional facility that I saw in my travels across the state. When I visited in January or February 2009, when there was overcrowding, I saw that Labor had been maintaining Pardelup, which is a very large facility, with capacity for 20 people. For more than three-quarters of a century, it had had capacity for 84 people, yet during a time of overcrowding, it had capacity for 20. Pardelup is 6 300 acres of prison farm. On the day I visited, which was shortly after taking government and during a period of overcrowding, there were 12 people there. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point, member for Warnbro, is that we had overcrowding — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I mentioned to you earlier that you have opportunities to ask questions. Continual interjecting will cause me to call you for the second time formally. Mr C.C. PORTER : The member for Warnbro criticises us for the fact of overcrowding, and it is a fact; and he criticises us for building capacity. That is an odd policy position. Where does it leave us in terms of Labor’s policy? After we opened these excellent beds at Pardelup, the member for Warnbro was, according to my notes, reported on GWN or WIN as saying — There’s a desperate need for the government to focus on preventing people getting in trouble and going into the prison system in the first place and reducing the rate of reoffending … Of course, we have missed the solution! We just need to make sure that everyone is nice to each other, ladies and gentlemen! That is the solution to prison overcrowding. We do not need to build capacity. Jesus loves us, so we just need to put signs up at the side of the road. It is an absolutely ridiculous statement. If members believe that that is proper policy, why did it not work in eight years under a Labor government? Members should ask this question: why was it that in eight years under Labor, when it had a strategy to reduce imprisonment, there was a growing prison population? Where was the magic, member for Warnbro, in those eight years? Where was the magic solution? There is not one. What we have done at Pardelup is look at a sensible way to utilise an under-utilised facility. This facility, with 6 300 acres and 12 people, had a lower population density under Labor during a time of overcrowding than that of Namibia and French Guinea but, thankfully, a greater population density than the Western Sahara. We have taken an under-utilised facility and we will stock it with up to 84 prisoners at minimal cost to the state because the prisoners have built the facilities. This will interest my friends from the Nationals: the facility has 1 000 head of breeding cattle and 2 500 breeding sheep—presumably, not all breeding at the same time. We are cropping 800 tonnes of hay and $700 000 worth of blue gums. This facility will now support 70 per cent of the beef going into the entire prison system. When Labor had it and I visited it, there were 12 people there.
I thank the member for his question. I also thank the member for Blackwood–Stirling for his ongoing interest in this facility located in his electorate. When I became Minister for Corrective Services, we obviously inherited a system with a significant level of overcrowding, but we did not inherit any plans for dealing with that situation. The first thing that I did was travel to all the facilities in Western Australia to try to find any facilities that were under-utilised. Of course, the first part of our strategy has been to put in 600 beds, which was done by the end of Christmas last year, by looking at areas in which refurbishments could be undertaken and at under-utilised facilities. Mr P. Papalia : That is not true. Mr C.C. PORTER : I will get to “not true” in a moment because I will read out a few of the member’s statements. Pardelup Prison Farm was the most astounding correctional facility that I saw in my travels across the state. When I visited in January or February 2009, when there was overcrowding, I saw that Labor had been maintaining Pardelup, which is a very large facility, with capacity for 20 people. For more than three-quarters of a century, it had had capacity for 84 people, yet during a time of overcrowding, it had capacity for 20. Pardelup is 6 300 acres of prison farm. On the day I visited, which was shortly after taking government and during a period of overcrowding, there were 12 people there. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point, member for Warnbro, is that we had overcrowding — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I mentioned to you earlier that you have opportunities to ask questions. Continual interjecting will cause me to call you for the second time formally. Mr C.C. PORTER : The member for Warnbro criticises us for the fact of overcrowding, and it is a fact; and he criticises us for building capacity. That is an odd policy position. Where does it leave us in terms of Labor’s policy? After we opened these excellent beds at Pardelup, the member for Warnbro was, according to my notes, reported on GWN or WIN as saying — There’s a desperate need for the government to focus on preventing people getting in trouble and going into the prison system in the first place and reducing the rate of reoffending … Of course, we have missed the solution! We just need to make sure that everyone is nice to each other, ladies and gentlemen! That is the solution to prison overcrowding. We do not need to build capacity. Jesus loves us, so we just need to put signs up at the side of the road. It is an absolutely ridiculous statement. If members believe that that is proper policy, why did it not work in eight years under a Labor government? Members should ask this question: why was it that in eight years under Labor, when it had a strategy to reduce imprisonment, there was a growing prison population? Where was the magic, member for Warnbro, in those eight years? Where was the magic solution? There is not one. What we have done at Pardelup is look at a sensible way to utilise an under-utilised facility. This facility, with 6 300 acres and 12 people, had a lower population density under Labor during a time of overcrowding than that of Namibia and French Guinea but, thankfully, a greater population density than the Western Sahara. We have taken an under-utilised facility and we will stock it with up to 84 prisoners at minimal cost to the state because the prisoners have built the facilities. This will interest my friends from the Nationals: the facility has 1 000 head of breeding cattle and 2 500 breeding sheep—presumably, not all breeding at the same time. We are cropping 800 tonnes of hay and $700 000 worth of blue gums. This facility will now support 70 per cent of the beef going into the entire prison system. When Labor had it and I visited it, there were 12 people there.
Mr P. Papalia : That is not true. Mr C.C. PORTER : I will get to “not true” in a moment because I will read out a few of the member’s statements. Pardelup Prison Farm was the most astounding correctional facility that I saw in my travels across the state. When I visited in January or February 2009, when there was overcrowding, I saw that Labor had been maintaining Pardelup, which is a very large facility, with capacity for 20 people. For more than three-quarters of a century, it had had capacity for 84 people, yet during a time of overcrowding, it had capacity for 20. Pardelup is 6 300 acres of prison farm. On the day I visited, which was shortly after taking government and during a period of overcrowding, there were 12 people there. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point, member for Warnbro, is that we had overcrowding — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I mentioned to you earlier that you have opportunities to ask questions. Continual interjecting will cause me to call you for the second time formally. Mr C.C. PORTER : The member for Warnbro criticises us for the fact of overcrowding, and it is a fact; and he criticises us for building capacity. That is an odd policy position. Where does it leave us in terms of Labor’s policy? After we opened these excellent beds at Pardelup, the member for Warnbro was, according to my notes, reported on GWN or WIN as saying — There’s a desperate need for the government to focus on preventing people getting in trouble and going into the prison system in the first place and reducing the rate of reoffending … Of course, we have missed the solution! We just need to make sure that everyone is nice to each other, ladies and gentlemen! That is the solution to prison overcrowding. We do not need to build capacity. Jesus loves us, so we just need to put signs up at the side of the road. It is an absolutely ridiculous statement. If members believe that that is proper policy, why did it not work in eight years under a Labor government? Members should ask this question: why was it that in eight years under Labor, when it had a strategy to reduce imprisonment, there was a growing prison population? Where was the magic, member for Warnbro, in those eight years? Where was the magic solution? There is not one. What we have done at Pardelup is look at a sensible way to utilise an under-utilised facility. This facility, with 6 300 acres and 12 people, had a lower population density under Labor during a time of overcrowding than that of Namibia and French Guinea but, thankfully, a greater population density than the Western Sahara. We have taken an under-utilised facility and we will stock it with up to 84 prisoners at minimal cost to the state because the prisoners have built the facilities. This will interest my friends from the Nationals: the facility has 1 000 head of breeding cattle and 2 500 breeding sheep—presumably, not all breeding at the same time. We are cropping 800 tonnes of hay and $700 000 worth of blue gums. This facility will now support 70 per cent of the beef going into the entire prison system. When Labor had it and I visited it, there were 12 people there.
Mr C.C. PORTER : I will get to “not true” in a moment because I will read out a few of the member’s statements. Pardelup Prison Farm was the most astounding correctional facility that I saw in my travels across the state. When I visited in January or February 2009, when there was overcrowding, I saw that Labor had been maintaining Pardelup, which is a very large facility, with capacity for 20 people. For more than three-quarters of a century, it had had capacity for 84 people, yet during a time of overcrowding, it had capacity for 20. Pardelup is 6 300 acres of prison farm. On the day I visited, which was shortly after taking government and during a period of overcrowding, there were 12 people there. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point, member for Warnbro, is that we had overcrowding — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I mentioned to you earlier that you have opportunities to ask questions. Continual interjecting will cause me to call you for the second time formally. Mr C.C. PORTER : The member for Warnbro criticises us for the fact of overcrowding, and it is a fact; and he criticises us for building capacity. That is an odd policy position. Where does it leave us in terms of Labor’s policy? After we opened these excellent beds at Pardelup, the member for Warnbro was, according to my notes, reported on GWN or WIN as saying — There’s a desperate need for the government to focus on preventing people getting in trouble and going into the prison system in the first place and reducing the rate of reoffending … Of course, we have missed the solution! We just need to make sure that everyone is nice to each other, ladies and gentlemen! That is the solution to prison overcrowding. We do not need to build capacity. Jesus loves us, so we just need to put signs up at the side of the road. It is an absolutely ridiculous statement. If members believe that that is proper policy, why did it not work in eight years under a Labor government? Members should ask this question: why was it that in eight years under Labor, when it had a strategy to reduce imprisonment, there was a growing prison population? Where was the magic, member for Warnbro, in those eight years? Where was the magic solution? There is not one. What we have done at Pardelup is look at a sensible way to utilise an under-utilised facility. This facility, with 6 300 acres and 12 people, had a lower population density under Labor during a time of overcrowding than that of Namibia and French Guinea but, thankfully, a greater population density than the Western Sahara. We have taken an under-utilised facility and we will stock it with up to 84 prisoners at minimal cost to the state because the prisoners have built the facilities. This will interest my friends from the Nationals: the facility has 1 000 head of breeding cattle and 2 500 breeding sheep—presumably, not all breeding at the same time. We are cropping 800 tonnes of hay and $700 000 worth of blue gums. This facility will now support 70 per cent of the beef going into the entire prison system. When Labor had it and I visited it, there were 12 people there.
Pardelup Prison Farm was the most astounding correctional facility that I saw in my travels across the state. When I visited in January or February 2009, when there was overcrowding, I saw that Labor had been maintaining Pardelup, which is a very large facility, with capacity for 20 people. For more than three-quarters of a century, it had had capacity for 84 people, yet during a time of overcrowding, it had capacity for 20. Pardelup is 6 300 acres of prison farm. On the day I visited, which was shortly after taking government and during a period of overcrowding, there were 12 people there. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point, member for Warnbro, is that we had overcrowding — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I mentioned to you earlier that you have opportunities to ask questions. Continual interjecting will cause me to call you for the second time formally. Mr C.C. PORTER : The member for Warnbro criticises us for the fact of overcrowding, and it is a fact; and he criticises us for building capacity. That is an odd policy position. Where does it leave us in terms of Labor’s policy? After we opened these excellent beds at Pardelup, the member for Warnbro was, according to my notes, reported on GWN or WIN as saying — There’s a desperate need for the government to focus on preventing people getting in trouble and going into the prison system in the first place and reducing the rate of reoffending … Of course, we have missed the solution! We just need to make sure that everyone is nice to each other, ladies and gentlemen! That is the solution to prison overcrowding. We do not need to build capacity. Jesus loves us, so we just need to put signs up at the side of the road. It is an absolutely ridiculous statement. If members believe that that is proper policy, why did it not work in eight years under a Labor government? Members should ask this question: why was it that in eight years under Labor, when it had a strategy to reduce imprisonment, there was a growing prison population? Where was the magic, member for Warnbro, in those eight years? Where was the magic solution? There is not one. What we have done at Pardelup is look at a sensible way to utilise an under-utilised facility. This facility, with 6 300 acres and 12 people, had a lower population density under Labor during a time of overcrowding than that of Namibia and French Guinea but, thankfully, a greater population density than the Western Sahara. We have taken an under-utilised facility and we will stock it with up to 84 prisoners at minimal cost to the state because the prisoners have built the facilities. This will interest my friends from the Nationals: the facility has 1 000 head of breeding cattle and 2 500 breeding sheep—presumably, not all breeding at the same time. We are cropping 800 tonnes of hay and $700 000 worth of blue gums. This facility will now support 70 per cent of the beef going into the entire prison system. When Labor had it and I visited it, there were 12 people there.
Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr C.C. PORTER : The point, member for Warnbro, is that we had overcrowding — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I mentioned to you earlier that you have opportunities to ask questions. Continual interjecting will cause me to call you for the second time formally. Mr C.C. PORTER : The member for Warnbro criticises us for the fact of overcrowding, and it is a fact; and he criticises us for building capacity. That is an odd policy position. Where does it leave us in terms of Labor’s policy? After we opened these excellent beds at Pardelup, the member for Warnbro was, according to my notes, reported on GWN or WIN as saying — There’s a desperate need for the government to focus on preventing people getting in trouble and going into the prison system in the first place and reducing the rate of reoffending … Of course, we have missed the solution! We just need to make sure that everyone is nice to each other, ladies and gentlemen! That is the solution to prison overcrowding. We do not need to build capacity. Jesus loves us, so we just need to put signs up at the side of the road. It is an absolutely ridiculous statement. If members believe that that is proper policy, why did it not work in eight years under a Labor government? Members should ask this question: why was it that in eight years under Labor, when it had a strategy to reduce imprisonment, there was a growing prison population? Where was the magic, member for Warnbro, in those eight years? Where was the magic solution? There is not one. What we have done at Pardelup is look at a sensible way to utilise an under-utilised facility. This facility, with 6 300 acres and 12 people, had a lower population density under Labor during a time of overcrowding than that of Namibia and French Guinea but, thankfully, a greater population density than the Western Sahara. We have taken an under-utilised facility and we will stock it with up to 84 prisoners at minimal cost to the state because the prisoners have built the facilities. This will interest my friends from the Nationals: the facility has 1 000 head of breeding cattle and 2 500 breeding sheep—presumably, not all breeding at the same time. We are cropping 800 tonnes of hay and $700 000 worth of blue gums. This facility will now support 70 per cent of the beef going into the entire prison system. When Labor had it and I visited it, there were 12 people there.
Mr C.C. PORTER : The point, member for Warnbro, is that we had overcrowding — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I mentioned to you earlier that you have opportunities to ask questions. Continual interjecting will cause me to call you for the second time formally. Mr C.C. PORTER : The member for Warnbro criticises us for the fact of overcrowding, and it is a fact; and he criticises us for building capacity. That is an odd policy position. Where does it leave us in terms of Labor’s policy? After we opened these excellent beds at Pardelup, the member for Warnbro was, according to my notes, reported on GWN or WIN as saying — There’s a desperate need for the government to focus on preventing people getting in trouble and going into the prison system in the first place and reducing the rate of reoffending … Of course, we have missed the solution! We just need to make sure that everyone is nice to each other, ladies and gentlemen! That is the solution to prison overcrowding. We do not need to build capacity. Jesus loves us, so we just need to put signs up at the side of the road. It is an absolutely ridiculous statement. If members believe that that is proper policy, why did it not work in eight years under a Labor government? Members should ask this question: why was it that in eight years under Labor, when it had a strategy to reduce imprisonment, there was a growing prison population? Where was the magic, member for Warnbro, in those eight years? Where was the magic solution? There is not one. What we have done at Pardelup is look at a sensible way to utilise an under-utilised facility. This facility, with 6 300 acres and 12 people, had a lower population density under Labor during a time of overcrowding than that of Namibia and French Guinea but, thankfully, a greater population density than the Western Sahara. We have taken an under-utilised facility and we will stock it with up to 84 prisoners at minimal cost to the state because the prisoners have built the facilities. This will interest my friends from the Nationals: the facility has 1 000 head of breeding cattle and 2 500 breeding sheep—presumably, not all breeding at the same time. We are cropping 800 tonnes of hay and $700 000 worth of blue gums. This facility will now support 70 per cent of the beef going into the entire prison system. When Labor had it and I visited it, there were 12 people there.
Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I mentioned to you earlier that you have opportunities to ask questions. Continual interjecting will cause me to call you for the second time formally. Mr C.C. PORTER : The member for Warnbro criticises us for the fact of overcrowding, and it is a fact; and he criticises us for building capacity. That is an odd policy position. Where does it leave us in terms of Labor’s policy? After we opened these excellent beds at Pardelup, the member for Warnbro was, according to my notes, reported on GWN or WIN as saying — There’s a desperate need for the government to focus on preventing people getting in trouble and going into the prison system in the first place and reducing the rate of reoffending … Of course, we have missed the solution! We just need to make sure that everyone is nice to each other, ladies and gentlemen! That is the solution to prison overcrowding. We do not need to build capacity. Jesus loves us, so we just need to put signs up at the side of the road. It is an absolutely ridiculous statement. If members believe that that is proper policy, why did it not work in eight years under a Labor government? Members should ask this question: why was it that in eight years under Labor, when it had a strategy to reduce imprisonment, there was a growing prison population? Where was the magic, member for Warnbro, in those eight years? Where was the magic solution? There is not one. What we have done at Pardelup is look at a sensible way to utilise an under-utilised facility. This facility, with 6 300 acres and 12 people, had a lower population density under Labor during a time of overcrowding than that of Namibia and French Guinea but, thankfully, a greater population density than the Western Sahara. We have taken an under-utilised facility and we will stock it with up to 84 prisoners at minimal cost to the state because the prisoners have built the facilities. This will interest my friends from the Nationals: the facility has 1 000 head of breeding cattle and 2 500 breeding sheep—presumably, not all breeding at the same time. We are cropping 800 tonnes of hay and $700 000 worth of blue gums. This facility will now support 70 per cent of the beef going into the entire prison system. When Labor had it and I visited it, there were 12 people there.
The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I mentioned to you earlier that you have opportunities to ask questions. Continual interjecting will cause me to call you for the second time formally. Mr C.C. PORTER : The member for Warnbro criticises us for the fact of overcrowding, and it is a fact; and he criticises us for building capacity. That is an odd policy position. Where does it leave us in terms of Labor’s policy? After we opened these excellent beds at Pardelup, the member for Warnbro was, according to my notes, reported on GWN or WIN as saying — There’s a desperate need for the government to focus on preventing people getting in trouble and going into the prison system in the first place and reducing the rate of reoffending … Of course, we have missed the solution! We just need to make sure that everyone is nice to each other, ladies and gentlemen! That is the solution to prison overcrowding. We do not need to build capacity. Jesus loves us, so we just need to put signs up at the side of the road. It is an absolutely ridiculous statement. If members believe that that is proper policy, why did it not work in eight years under a Labor government? Members should ask this question: why was it that in eight years under Labor, when it had a strategy to reduce imprisonment, there was a growing prison population? Where was the magic, member for Warnbro, in those eight years? Where was the magic solution? There is not one. What we have done at Pardelup is look at a sensible way to utilise an under-utilised facility. This facility, with 6 300 acres and 12 people, had a lower population density under Labor during a time of overcrowding than that of Namibia and French Guinea but, thankfully, a greater population density than the Western Sahara. We have taken an under-utilised facility and we will stock it with up to 84 prisoners at minimal cost to the state because the prisoners have built the facilities. This will interest my friends from the Nationals: the facility has 1 000 head of breeding cattle and 2 500 breeding sheep—presumably, not all breeding at the same time. We are cropping 800 tonnes of hay and $700 000 worth of blue gums. This facility will now support 70 per cent of the beef going into the entire prison system. When Labor had it and I visited it, there were 12 people there.
Mr C.C. PORTER : The member for Warnbro criticises us for the fact of overcrowding, and it is a fact; and he criticises us for building capacity. That is an odd policy position. Where does it leave us in terms of Labor’s policy? After we opened these excellent beds at Pardelup, the member for Warnbro was, according to my notes, reported on GWN or WIN as saying — There’s a desperate need for the government to focus on preventing people getting in trouble and going into the prison system in the first place and reducing the rate of reoffending … Of course, we have missed the solution! We just need to make sure that everyone is nice to each other, ladies and gentlemen! That is the solution to prison overcrowding. We do not need to build capacity. Jesus loves us, so we just need to put signs up at the side of the road. It is an absolutely ridiculous statement. If members believe that that is proper policy, why did it not work in eight years under a Labor government? Members should ask this question: why was it that in eight years under Labor, when it had a strategy to reduce imprisonment, there was a growing prison population? Where was the magic, member for Warnbro, in those eight years? Where was the magic solution? There is not one. What we have done at Pardelup is look at a sensible way to utilise an under-utilised facility. This facility, with 6 300 acres and 12 people, had a lower population density under Labor during a time of overcrowding than that of Namibia and French Guinea but, thankfully, a greater population density than the Western Sahara. We have taken an under-utilised facility and we will stock it with up to 84 prisoners at minimal cost to the state because the prisoners have built the facilities. This will interest my friends from the Nationals: the facility has 1 000 head of breeding cattle and 2 500 breeding sheep—presumably, not all breeding at the same time. We are cropping 800 tonnes of hay and $700 000 worth of blue gums. This facility will now support 70 per cent of the beef going into the entire prison system. When Labor had it and I visited it, there were 12 people there.
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