❓ Hon George Cash asks the Minister for Heritage to clarify his statement that heritage legislation debate "has gone off the rails a bit." The Minister explains that some heritage claims are exaggerated, causing a community backlash, making it a bad time to advance legislation.
AnsweredQoN 1704Legislative Council
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Could the minister explain what he means by the term “has gone off the rails a bit” when referring to heritage legislation? Hon TOM STEPHENS
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I was saying that the debate has gone off the rails a bit. Hon Kim Chance: Not a lot. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I think it has gone off the rails a bit. I have spoken about this in the House. Hon Derrick Tomlinson: It is the view - The PRESIDENT: Order! There is no supplementary question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I spoke about it with Hon Giz Watson. I made the point that sometimes people in the pursuit of heritage matters can exaggerate the claims for heritage and end up producing a reaction of the like that Hon Bill Hassell provoked when he started to run an anti-heritage campaign. I believe that the debate is now off the rails. Hon Simon O’Brien: Could you not find a more recent Liberal member to blame? Hon TOM STEPHENS: I like Hon Bill Hassell. He is the embodiment of what it means to be a Liberal in Western Australia. Hon Simon O’Brien: He is a fine man. Hon Ken Travers: He is better than most of them. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: The ambitions of some in the field of heritage are out of step with the community and have caused a community backlash. I am not sure that when that happens is the best time to be advancing heritage legislation.
Hon TOM STEPHENS replied: I was saying that the debate has gone off the rails a bit. Hon Kim Chance: Not a lot. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I think it has gone off the rails a bit. I have spoken about this in the House. Hon Derrick Tomlinson: It is the view - The PRESIDENT: Order! There is no supplementary question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I spoke about it with Hon Giz Watson. I made the point that sometimes people in the pursuit of heritage matters can exaggerate the claims for heritage and end up producing a reaction of the like that Hon Bill Hassell provoked when he started to run an anti-heritage campaign. I believe that the debate is now off the rails. Hon Simon O’Brien: Could you not find a more recent Liberal member to blame? Hon TOM STEPHENS: I like Hon Bill Hassell. He is the embodiment of what it means to be a Liberal in Western Australia. Hon Simon O’Brien: He is a fine man. Hon Ken Travers: He is better than most of them. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: The ambitions of some in the field of heritage are out of step with the community and have caused a community backlash. I am not sure that when that happens is the best time to be advancing heritage legislation.
I was saying that the debate has gone off the rails a bit. Hon Kim Chance: Not a lot. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I think it has gone off the rails a bit. I have spoken about this in the House. Hon Derrick Tomlinson: It is the view - The PRESIDENT: Order! There is no supplementary question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I spoke about it with Hon Giz Watson. I made the point that sometimes people in the pursuit of heritage matters can exaggerate the claims for heritage and end up producing a reaction of the like that Hon Bill Hassell provoked when he started to run an anti-heritage campaign. I believe that the debate is now off the rails. Hon Simon O’Brien: Could you not find a more recent Liberal member to blame? Hon TOM STEPHENS: I like Hon Bill Hassell. He is the embodiment of what it means to be a Liberal in Western Australia. Hon Simon O’Brien: He is a fine man. Hon Ken Travers: He is better than most of them. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: The ambitions of some in the field of heritage are out of step with the community and have caused a community backlash. I am not sure that when that happens is the best time to be advancing heritage legislation.
Hon Kim Chance: Not a lot. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I think it has gone off the rails a bit. I have spoken about this in the House. Hon Derrick Tomlinson: It is the view - The PRESIDENT: Order! There is no supplementary question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I spoke about it with Hon Giz Watson. I made the point that sometimes people in the pursuit of heritage matters can exaggerate the claims for heritage and end up producing a reaction of the like that Hon Bill Hassell provoked when he started to run an anti-heritage campaign. I believe that the debate is now off the rails. Hon Simon O’Brien: Could you not find a more recent Liberal member to blame? Hon TOM STEPHENS: I like Hon Bill Hassell. He is the embodiment of what it means to be a Liberal in Western Australia. Hon Simon O’Brien: He is a fine man. Hon Ken Travers: He is better than most of them. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: The ambitions of some in the field of heritage are out of step with the community and have caused a community backlash. I am not sure that when that happens is the best time to be advancing heritage legislation.
Hon TOM STEPHENS: I think it has gone off the rails a bit. I have spoken about this in the House. Hon Derrick Tomlinson: It is the view - The PRESIDENT: Order! There is no supplementary question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I spoke about it with Hon Giz Watson. I made the point that sometimes people in the pursuit of heritage matters can exaggerate the claims for heritage and end up producing a reaction of the like that Hon Bill Hassell provoked when he started to run an anti-heritage campaign. I believe that the debate is now off the rails. Hon Simon O’Brien: Could you not find a more recent Liberal member to blame? Hon TOM STEPHENS: I like Hon Bill Hassell. He is the embodiment of what it means to be a Liberal in Western Australia. Hon Simon O’Brien: He is a fine man. Hon Ken Travers: He is better than most of them. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: The ambitions of some in the field of heritage are out of step with the community and have caused a community backlash. I am not sure that when that happens is the best time to be advancing heritage legislation.
Hon Derrick Tomlinson: It is the view - The PRESIDENT: Order! There is no supplementary question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I spoke about it with Hon Giz Watson. I made the point that sometimes people in the pursuit of heritage matters can exaggerate the claims for heritage and end up producing a reaction of the like that Hon Bill Hassell provoked when he started to run an anti-heritage campaign. I believe that the debate is now off the rails. Hon Simon O’Brien: Could you not find a more recent Liberal member to blame? Hon TOM STEPHENS: I like Hon Bill Hassell. He is the embodiment of what it means to be a Liberal in Western Australia. Hon Simon O’Brien: He is a fine man. Hon Ken Travers: He is better than most of them. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: The ambitions of some in the field of heritage are out of step with the community and have caused a community backlash. I am not sure that when that happens is the best time to be advancing heritage legislation.
The PRESIDENT: Order! There is no supplementary question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I spoke about it with Hon Giz Watson. I made the point that sometimes people in the pursuit of heritage matters can exaggerate the claims for heritage and end up producing a reaction of the like that Hon Bill Hassell provoked when he started to run an anti-heritage campaign. I believe that the debate is now off the rails. Hon Simon O’Brien: Could you not find a more recent Liberal member to blame? Hon TOM STEPHENS: I like Hon Bill Hassell. He is the embodiment of what it means to be a Liberal in Western Australia. Hon Simon O’Brien: He is a fine man. Hon Ken Travers: He is better than most of them. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: The ambitions of some in the field of heritage are out of step with the community and have caused a community backlash. I am not sure that when that happens is the best time to be advancing heritage legislation.
Hon TOM STEPHENS: I spoke about it with Hon Giz Watson. I made the point that sometimes people in the pursuit of heritage matters can exaggerate the claims for heritage and end up producing a reaction of the like that Hon Bill Hassell provoked when he started to run an anti-heritage campaign. I believe that the debate is now off the rails. Hon Simon O’Brien: Could you not find a more recent Liberal member to blame? Hon TOM STEPHENS: I like Hon Bill Hassell. He is the embodiment of what it means to be a Liberal in Western Australia. Hon Simon O’Brien: He is a fine man. Hon Ken Travers: He is better than most of them. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: The ambitions of some in the field of heritage are out of step with the community and have caused a community backlash. I am not sure that when that happens is the best time to be advancing heritage legislation.
Hon Simon O’Brien: Could you not find a more recent Liberal member to blame? Hon TOM STEPHENS: I like Hon Bill Hassell. He is the embodiment of what it means to be a Liberal in Western Australia. Hon Simon O’Brien: He is a fine man. Hon Ken Travers: He is better than most of them. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: The ambitions of some in the field of heritage are out of step with the community and have caused a community backlash. I am not sure that when that happens is the best time to be advancing heritage legislation.
Hon TOM STEPHENS: I like Hon Bill Hassell. He is the embodiment of what it means to be a Liberal in Western Australia. Hon Simon O’Brien: He is a fine man. Hon Ken Travers: He is better than most of them. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: The ambitions of some in the field of heritage are out of step with the community and have caused a community backlash. I am not sure that when that happens is the best time to be advancing heritage legislation.
Hon Simon O’Brien: He is a fine man. Hon Ken Travers: He is better than most of them. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: The ambitions of some in the field of heritage are out of step with the community and have caused a community backlash. I am not sure that when that happens is the best time to be advancing heritage legislation.
Hon Ken Travers: He is better than most of them. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: The ambitions of some in the field of heritage are out of step with the community and have caused a community backlash. I am not sure that when that happens is the best time to be advancing heritage legislation.
The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: The ambitions of some in the field of heritage are out of step with the community and have caused a community backlash. I am not sure that when that happens is the best time to be advancing heritage legislation.
Hon TOM STEPHENS: The ambitions of some in the field of heritage are out of step with the community and have caused a community backlash. I am not sure that when that happens is the best time to be advancing heritage legislation.
Hon TOM STEPHENS replied: I was saying that the debate has gone off the rails a bit. Hon Kim Chance: Not a lot. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I think it has gone off the rails a bit. I have spoken about this in the House. Hon Derrick Tomlinson: It is the view - The PRESIDENT: Order! There is no supplementary question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I spoke about it with Hon Giz Watson. I made the point that sometimes people in the pursuit of heritage matters can exaggerate the claims for heritage and end up producing a reaction of the like that Hon Bill Hassell provoked when he started to run an anti-heritage campaign. I believe that the debate is now off the rails. Hon Simon O’Brien: Could you not find a more recent Liberal member to blame? Hon TOM STEPHENS: I like Hon Bill Hassell. He is the embodiment of what it means to be a Liberal in Western Australia. Hon Simon O’Brien: He is a fine man. Hon Ken Travers: He is better than most of them. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: The ambitions of some in the field of heritage are out of step with the community and have caused a community backlash. I am not sure that when that happens is the best time to be advancing heritage legislation.
I was saying that the debate has gone off the rails a bit. Hon Kim Chance: Not a lot. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I think it has gone off the rails a bit. I have spoken about this in the House. Hon Derrick Tomlinson: It is the view - The PRESIDENT: Order! There is no supplementary question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I spoke about it with Hon Giz Watson. I made the point that sometimes people in the pursuit of heritage matters can exaggerate the claims for heritage and end up producing a reaction of the like that Hon Bill Hassell provoked when he started to run an anti-heritage campaign. I believe that the debate is now off the rails. Hon Simon O’Brien: Could you not find a more recent Liberal member to blame? Hon TOM STEPHENS: I like Hon Bill Hassell. He is the embodiment of what it means to be a Liberal in Western Australia. Hon Simon O’Brien: He is a fine man. Hon Ken Travers: He is better than most of them. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: The ambitions of some in the field of heritage are out of step with the community and have caused a community backlash. I am not sure that when that happens is the best time to be advancing heritage legislation.
Hon Kim Chance: Not a lot. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I think it has gone off the rails a bit. I have spoken about this in the House. Hon Derrick Tomlinson: It is the view - The PRESIDENT: Order! There is no supplementary question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I spoke about it with Hon Giz Watson. I made the point that sometimes people in the pursuit of heritage matters can exaggerate the claims for heritage and end up producing a reaction of the like that Hon Bill Hassell provoked when he started to run an anti-heritage campaign. I believe that the debate is now off the rails. Hon Simon O’Brien: Could you not find a more recent Liberal member to blame? Hon TOM STEPHENS: I like Hon Bill Hassell. He is the embodiment of what it means to be a Liberal in Western Australia. Hon Simon O’Brien: He is a fine man. Hon Ken Travers: He is better than most of them. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: The ambitions of some in the field of heritage are out of step with the community and have caused a community backlash. I am not sure that when that happens is the best time to be advancing heritage legislation.
Hon TOM STEPHENS: I think it has gone off the rails a bit. I have spoken about this in the House. Hon Derrick Tomlinson: It is the view - The PRESIDENT: Order! There is no supplementary question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I spoke about it with Hon Giz Watson. I made the point that sometimes people in the pursuit of heritage matters can exaggerate the claims for heritage and end up producing a reaction of the like that Hon Bill Hassell provoked when he started to run an anti-heritage campaign. I believe that the debate is now off the rails. Hon Simon O’Brien: Could you not find a more recent Liberal member to blame? Hon TOM STEPHENS: I like Hon Bill Hassell. He is the embodiment of what it means to be a Liberal in Western Australia. Hon Simon O’Brien: He is a fine man. Hon Ken Travers: He is better than most of them. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: The ambitions of some in the field of heritage are out of step with the community and have caused a community backlash. I am not sure that when that happens is the best time to be advancing heritage legislation.
Hon Derrick Tomlinson: It is the view - The PRESIDENT: Order! There is no supplementary question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I spoke about it with Hon Giz Watson. I made the point that sometimes people in the pursuit of heritage matters can exaggerate the claims for heritage and end up producing a reaction of the like that Hon Bill Hassell provoked when he started to run an anti-heritage campaign. I believe that the debate is now off the rails. Hon Simon O’Brien: Could you not find a more recent Liberal member to blame? Hon TOM STEPHENS: I like Hon Bill Hassell. He is the embodiment of what it means to be a Liberal in Western Australia. Hon Simon O’Brien: He is a fine man. Hon Ken Travers: He is better than most of them. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: The ambitions of some in the field of heritage are out of step with the community and have caused a community backlash. I am not sure that when that happens is the best time to be advancing heritage legislation.
The PRESIDENT: Order! There is no supplementary question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I spoke about it with Hon Giz Watson. I made the point that sometimes people in the pursuit of heritage matters can exaggerate the claims for heritage and end up producing a reaction of the like that Hon Bill Hassell provoked when he started to run an anti-heritage campaign. I believe that the debate is now off the rails. Hon Simon O’Brien: Could you not find a more recent Liberal member to blame? Hon TOM STEPHENS: I like Hon Bill Hassell. He is the embodiment of what it means to be a Liberal in Western Australia. Hon Simon O’Brien: He is a fine man. Hon Ken Travers: He is better than most of them. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: The ambitions of some in the field of heritage are out of step with the community and have caused a community backlash. I am not sure that when that happens is the best time to be advancing heritage legislation.
Hon TOM STEPHENS: I spoke about it with Hon Giz Watson. I made the point that sometimes people in the pursuit of heritage matters can exaggerate the claims for heritage and end up producing a reaction of the like that Hon Bill Hassell provoked when he started to run an anti-heritage campaign. I believe that the debate is now off the rails. Hon Simon O’Brien: Could you not find a more recent Liberal member to blame? Hon TOM STEPHENS: I like Hon Bill Hassell. He is the embodiment of what it means to be a Liberal in Western Australia. Hon Simon O’Brien: He is a fine man. Hon Ken Travers: He is better than most of them. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: The ambitions of some in the field of heritage are out of step with the community and have caused a community backlash. I am not sure that when that happens is the best time to be advancing heritage legislation.
Hon Simon O’Brien: Could you not find a more recent Liberal member to blame? Hon TOM STEPHENS: I like Hon Bill Hassell. He is the embodiment of what it means to be a Liberal in Western Australia. Hon Simon O’Brien: He is a fine man. Hon Ken Travers: He is better than most of them. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: The ambitions of some in the field of heritage are out of step with the community and have caused a community backlash. I am not sure that when that happens is the best time to be advancing heritage legislation.
Hon TOM STEPHENS: I like Hon Bill Hassell. He is the embodiment of what it means to be a Liberal in Western Australia. Hon Simon O’Brien: He is a fine man. Hon Ken Travers: He is better than most of them. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: The ambitions of some in the field of heritage are out of step with the community and have caused a community backlash. I am not sure that when that happens is the best time to be advancing heritage legislation.
Hon Simon O’Brien: He is a fine man. Hon Ken Travers: He is better than most of them. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: The ambitions of some in the field of heritage are out of step with the community and have caused a community backlash. I am not sure that when that happens is the best time to be advancing heritage legislation.
Hon Ken Travers: He is better than most of them. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: The ambitions of some in the field of heritage are out of step with the community and have caused a community backlash. I am not sure that when that happens is the best time to be advancing heritage legislation.
The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: The ambitions of some in the field of heritage are out of step with the community and have caused a community backlash. I am not sure that when that happens is the best time to be advancing heritage legislation.
Hon TOM STEPHENS: The ambitions of some in the field of heritage are out of step with the community and have caused a community backlash. I am not sure that when that happens is the best time to be advancing heritage legislation.
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