Question regarding the Police Commissioner's practice of standing down officers named in the Kennedy Royal Commission before its conclusion, and the Minister's support for this practice. The Minister defends the process, citing natural justice and protocols.

AnsweredQoN 480Legislative Assembly
Asked
11 March 2003
Portfolio
Police and Emergency Services

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I refer the - Dr G.I. Gallop: This is the businessperson of the year who is not a businessperson. The SPEAKER: Premier! Mr M.J. BIRNEY: I refer the minister to the - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Once again the question cannot be asked because of interjections. Mr M.J. BIRNEY: Thank you for your timely protection, Mr Speaker. I refer the minister to the Kennedy Royal Commission Into Whether There Has Been Any Corrupt or Criminal Conduct by Western Australian Police Officers. (1) Does the minister support the practice currently being followed by the Commissioner of Police of standing down some police officers named at the royal commission prior to the conclusion of the royal commission? (2) Alternatively, does the minister believe that action should be taken only against persons named at the police royal commission at the conclusion of the royal commission; and, if not, why not? Mrs M.H. ROBERTS

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(1)-(2) I suspect that a really easy dorothy dixer could follow on from this question. Perhaps the member for Kalgoorlie needs to get up a little earlier in the morning if he thinks he will catch me out. Protocols are in place at the royal commission. If there is a prospect of an adverse finding about someone at the royal commission, that person is advised first of all, because that is a matter of natural justice. In addition to that, a protocol is in place at the royal commission that when there are serious concerns about police officers and it is believed that it is likely that serious or adverse allegations could be sustained against police officers, the Commissioner of Police is informed. He then examines that information and makes his own assessment of what action will be taken, based on what the royal commission has put in front of him. In some instances - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: This is a very serious matter. If members opposite are interested in this issue, I suggest that they be quiet and listen because they might learn something. Because of the information that is conveyed to the Commissioner of Police by the royal commissioner, some officers are stood down completely from all duties. Other officers are stood down but continue to carry out other activities within the Police Service. Of course, for many officers who are named, there is no contact between the royal commission and the Commissioner of Police. In that case, no action is taken.
Dr G.I. Gallop: This is the businessperson of the year who is not a businessperson. The SPEAKER: Premier! Mr M.J. BIRNEY: I refer the minister to the - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Once again the question cannot be asked because of interjections. Mr M.J. BIRNEY: Thank you for your timely protection, Mr Speaker. I refer the minister to the Kennedy Royal Commission Into Whether There Has Been Any Corrupt or Criminal Conduct by Western Australian Police Officers. (1) Does the minister support the practice currently being followed by the Commissioner of Police of standing down some police officers named at the royal commission prior to the conclusion of the royal commission? (2) Alternatively, does the minister believe that action should be taken only against persons named at the police royal commission at the conclusion of the royal commission; and, if not, why not? Mrs M.H. ROBERTS replied: (1)-(2) I suspect that a really easy dorothy dixer could follow on from this question. Perhaps the member for Kalgoorlie needs to get up a little earlier in the morning if he thinks he will catch me out. Protocols are in place at the royal commission. If there is a prospect of an adverse finding about someone at the royal commission, that person is advised first of all, because that is a matter of natural justice. In addition to that, a protocol is in place at the royal commission that when there are serious concerns about police officers and it is believed that it is likely that serious or adverse allegations could be sustained against police officers, the Commissioner of Police is informed. He then examines that information and makes his own assessment of what action will be taken, based on what the royal commission has put in front of him. In some instances - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: This is a very serious matter. If members opposite are interested in this issue, I suggest that they be quiet and listen because they might learn something. Because of the information that is conveyed to the Commissioner of Police by the royal commissioner, some officers are stood down completely from all duties. Other officers are stood down but continue to carry out other activities within the Police Service. Of course, for many officers who are named, there is no contact between the royal commission and the Commissioner of Police. In that case, no action is taken.
The SPEAKER: Premier! Mr M.J. BIRNEY: I refer the minister to the - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Once again the question cannot be asked because of interjections. Mr M.J. BIRNEY: Thank you for your timely protection, Mr Speaker. I refer the minister to the Kennedy Royal Commission Into Whether There Has Been Any Corrupt or Criminal Conduct by Western Australian Police Officers. (1) Does the minister support the practice currently being followed by the Commissioner of Police of standing down some police officers named at the royal commission prior to the conclusion of the royal commission? (2) Alternatively, does the minister believe that action should be taken only against persons named at the police royal commission at the conclusion of the royal commission; and, if not, why not? Mrs M.H. ROBERTS replied: (1)-(2) I suspect that a really easy dorothy dixer could follow on from this question. Perhaps the member for Kalgoorlie needs to get up a little earlier in the morning if he thinks he will catch me out. Protocols are in place at the royal commission. If there is a prospect of an adverse finding about someone at the royal commission, that person is advised first of all, because that is a matter of natural justice. In addition to that, a protocol is in place at the royal commission that when there are serious concerns about police officers and it is believed that it is likely that serious or adverse allegations could be sustained against police officers, the Commissioner of Police is informed. He then examines that information and makes his own assessment of what action will be taken, based on what the royal commission has put in front of him. In some instances - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: This is a very serious matter. If members opposite are interested in this issue, I suggest that they be quiet and listen because they might learn something. Because of the information that is conveyed to the Commissioner of Police by the royal commissioner, some officers are stood down completely from all duties. Other officers are stood down but continue to carry out other activities within the Police Service. Of course, for many officers who are named, there is no contact between the royal commission and the Commissioner of Police. In that case, no action is taken.
Mr M.J. BIRNEY: I refer the minister to the - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Once again the question cannot be asked because of interjections. Mr M.J. BIRNEY: Thank you for your timely protection, Mr Speaker. I refer the minister to the Kennedy Royal Commission Into Whether There Has Been Any Corrupt or Criminal Conduct by Western Australian Police Officers. (1) Does the minister support the practice currently being followed by the Commissioner of Police of standing down some police officers named at the royal commission prior to the conclusion of the royal commission? (2) Alternatively, does the minister believe that action should be taken only against persons named at the police royal commission at the conclusion of the royal commission; and, if not, why not? Mrs M.H. ROBERTS replied: (1)-(2) I suspect that a really easy dorothy dixer could follow on from this question. Perhaps the member for Kalgoorlie needs to get up a little earlier in the morning if he thinks he will catch me out. Protocols are in place at the royal commission. If there is a prospect of an adverse finding about someone at the royal commission, that person is advised first of all, because that is a matter of natural justice. In addition to that, a protocol is in place at the royal commission that when there are serious concerns about police officers and it is believed that it is likely that serious or adverse allegations could be sustained against police officers, the Commissioner of Police is informed. He then examines that information and makes his own assessment of what action will be taken, based on what the royal commission has put in front of him. In some instances - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: This is a very serious matter. If members opposite are interested in this issue, I suggest that they be quiet and listen because they might learn something. Because of the information that is conveyed to the Commissioner of Police by the royal commissioner, some officers are stood down completely from all duties. Other officers are stood down but continue to carry out other activities within the Police Service. Of course, for many officers who are named, there is no contact between the royal commission and the Commissioner of Police. In that case, no action is taken.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Once again the question cannot be asked because of interjections. Mr M.J. BIRNEY: Thank you for your timely protection, Mr Speaker. I refer the minister to the Kennedy Royal Commission Into Whether There Has Been Any Corrupt or Criminal Conduct by Western Australian Police Officers. (1) Does the minister support the practice currently being followed by the Commissioner of Police of standing down some police officers named at the royal commission prior to the conclusion of the royal commission? (2) Alternatively, does the minister believe that action should be taken only against persons named at the police royal commission at the conclusion of the royal commission; and, if not, why not? Mrs M.H. ROBERTS replied: (1)-(2) I suspect that a really easy dorothy dixer could follow on from this question. Perhaps the member for Kalgoorlie needs to get up a little earlier in the morning if he thinks he will catch me out. Protocols are in place at the royal commission. If there is a prospect of an adverse finding about someone at the royal commission, that person is advised first of all, because that is a matter of natural justice. In addition to that, a protocol is in place at the royal commission that when there are serious concerns about police officers and it is believed that it is likely that serious or adverse allegations could be sustained against police officers, the Commissioner of Police is informed. He then examines that information and makes his own assessment of what action will be taken, based on what the royal commission has put in front of him. In some instances - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: This is a very serious matter. If members opposite are interested in this issue, I suggest that they be quiet and listen because they might learn something. Because of the information that is conveyed to the Commissioner of Police by the royal commissioner, some officers are stood down completely from all duties. Other officers are stood down but continue to carry out other activities within the Police Service. Of course, for many officers who are named, there is no contact between the royal commission and the Commissioner of Police. In that case, no action is taken.
The SPEAKER: Members! Once again the question cannot be asked because of interjections. Mr M.J. BIRNEY: Thank you for your timely protection, Mr Speaker. I refer the minister to the Kennedy Royal Commission Into Whether There Has Been Any Corrupt or Criminal Conduct by Western Australian Police Officers. (1) Does the minister support the practice currently being followed by the Commissioner of Police of standing down some police officers named at the royal commission prior to the conclusion of the royal commission? (2) Alternatively, does the minister believe that action should be taken only against persons named at the police royal commission at the conclusion of the royal commission; and, if not, why not? Mrs M.H. ROBERTS replied: (1)-(2) I suspect that a really easy dorothy dixer could follow on from this question. Perhaps the member for Kalgoorlie needs to get up a little earlier in the morning if he thinks he will catch me out. Protocols are in place at the royal commission. If there is a prospect of an adverse finding about someone at the royal commission, that person is advised first of all, because that is a matter of natural justice. In addition to that, a protocol is in place at the royal commission that when there are serious concerns about police officers and it is believed that it is likely that serious or adverse allegations could be sustained against police officers, the Commissioner of Police is informed. He then examines that information and makes his own assessment of what action will be taken, based on what the royal commission has put in front of him. In some instances - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: This is a very serious matter. If members opposite are interested in this issue, I suggest that they be quiet and listen because they might learn something. Because of the information that is conveyed to the Commissioner of Police by the royal commissioner, some officers are stood down completely from all duties. Other officers are stood down but continue to carry out other activities within the Police Service. Of course, for many officers who are named, there is no contact between the royal commission and the Commissioner of Police. In that case, no action is taken.
Mr M.J. BIRNEY: Thank you for your timely protection, Mr Speaker. I refer the minister to the Kennedy Royal Commission Into Whether There Has Been Any Corrupt or Criminal Conduct by Western Australian Police Officers. (1) Does the minister support the practice currently being followed by the Commissioner of Police of standing down some police officers named at the royal commission prior to the conclusion of the royal commission? (2) Alternatively, does the minister believe that action should be taken only against persons named at the police royal commission at the conclusion of the royal commission; and, if not, why not? Mrs M.H. ROBERTS replied: (1)-(2) I suspect that a really easy dorothy dixer could follow on from this question. Perhaps the member for Kalgoorlie needs to get up a little earlier in the morning if he thinks he will catch me out. Protocols are in place at the royal commission. If there is a prospect of an adverse finding about someone at the royal commission, that person is advised first of all, because that is a matter of natural justice. In addition to that, a protocol is in place at the royal commission that when there are serious concerns about police officers and it is believed that it is likely that serious or adverse allegations could be sustained against police officers, the Commissioner of Police is informed. He then examines that information and makes his own assessment of what action will be taken, based on what the royal commission has put in front of him. In some instances - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: This is a very serious matter. If members opposite are interested in this issue, I suggest that they be quiet and listen because they might learn something. Because of the information that is conveyed to the Commissioner of Police by the royal commissioner, some officers are stood down completely from all duties. Other officers are stood down but continue to carry out other activities within the Police Service. Of course, for many officers who are named, there is no contact between the royal commission and the Commissioner of Police. In that case, no action is taken.
I refer the minister to the Kennedy Royal Commission Into Whether There Has Been Any Corrupt or Criminal Conduct by Western Australian Police Officers. (1) Does the minister support the practice currently being followed by the Commissioner of Police of standing down some police officers named at the royal commission prior to the conclusion of the royal commission? (2) Alternatively, does the minister believe that action should be taken only against persons named at the police royal commission at the conclusion of the royal commission; and, if not, why not? Mrs M.H. ROBERTS replied: (1)-(2) I suspect that a really easy dorothy dixer could follow on from this question. Perhaps the member for Kalgoorlie needs to get up a little earlier in the morning if he thinks he will catch me out. Protocols are in place at the royal commission. If there is a prospect of an adverse finding about someone at the royal commission, that person is advised first of all, because that is a matter of natural justice. In addition to that, a protocol is in place at the royal commission that when there are serious concerns about police officers and it is believed that it is likely that serious or adverse allegations could be sustained against police officers, the Commissioner of Police is informed. He then examines that information and makes his own assessment of what action will be taken, based on what the royal commission has put in front of him. In some instances - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: This is a very serious matter. If members opposite are interested in this issue, I suggest that they be quiet and listen because they might learn something. Because of the information that is conveyed to the Commissioner of Police by the royal commissioner, some officers are stood down completely from all duties. Other officers are stood down but continue to carry out other activities within the Police Service. Of course, for many officers who are named, there is no contact between the royal commission and the Commissioner of Police. In that case, no action is taken.
(1) Does the minister support the practice currently being followed by the Commissioner of Police of standing down some police officers named at the royal commission prior to the conclusion of the royal commission? (2) Alternatively, does the minister believe that action should be taken only against persons named at the police royal commission at the conclusion of the royal commission; and, if not, why not? Mrs M.H. ROBERTS replied: (1)-(2) I suspect that a really easy dorothy dixer could follow on from this question. Perhaps the member for Kalgoorlie needs to get up a little earlier in the morning if he thinks he will catch me out. Protocols are in place at the royal commission. If there is a prospect of an adverse finding about someone at the royal commission, that person is advised first of all, because that is a matter of natural justice. In addition to that, a protocol is in place at the royal commission that when there are serious concerns about police officers and it is believed that it is likely that serious or adverse allegations could be sustained against police officers, the Commissioner of Police is informed. He then examines that information and makes his own assessment of what action will be taken, based on what the royal commission has put in front of him. In some instances - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: This is a very serious matter. If members opposite are interested in this issue, I suggest that they be quiet and listen because they might learn something. Because of the information that is conveyed to the Commissioner of Police by the royal commissioner, some officers are stood down completely from all duties. Other officers are stood down but continue to carry out other activities within the Police Service. Of course, for many officers who are named, there is no contact between the royal commission and the Commissioner of Police. In that case, no action is taken.
(2) Alternatively, does the minister believe that action should be taken only against persons named at the police royal commission at the conclusion of the royal commission; and, if not, why not? Mrs M.H. ROBERTS replied: (1)-(2) I suspect that a really easy dorothy dixer could follow on from this question. Perhaps the member for Kalgoorlie needs to get up a little earlier in the morning if he thinks he will catch me out. Protocols are in place at the royal commission. If there is a prospect of an adverse finding about someone at the royal commission, that person is advised first of all, because that is a matter of natural justice. In addition to that, a protocol is in place at the royal commission that when there are serious concerns about police officers and it is believed that it is likely that serious or adverse allegations could be sustained against police officers, the Commissioner of Police is informed. He then examines that information and makes his own assessment of what action will be taken, based on what the royal commission has put in front of him. In some instances - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: This is a very serious matter. If members opposite are interested in this issue, I suggest that they be quiet and listen because they might learn something. Because of the information that is conveyed to the Commissioner of Police by the royal commissioner, some officers are stood down completely from all duties. Other officers are stood down but continue to carry out other activities within the Police Service. Of course, for many officers who are named, there is no contact between the royal commission and the Commissioner of Police. In that case, no action is taken.
Mrs M.H. ROBERTS replied: (1)-(2) I suspect that a really easy dorothy dixer could follow on from this question. Perhaps the member for Kalgoorlie needs to get up a little earlier in the morning if he thinks he will catch me out. Protocols are in place at the royal commission. If there is a prospect of an adverse finding about someone at the royal commission, that person is advised first of all, because that is a matter of natural justice. In addition to that, a protocol is in place at the royal commission that when there are serious concerns about police officers and it is believed that it is likely that serious or adverse allegations could be sustained against police officers, the Commissioner of Police is informed. He then examines that information and makes his own assessment of what action will be taken, based on what the royal commission has put in front of him. In some instances - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: This is a very serious matter. If members opposite are interested in this issue, I suggest that they be quiet and listen because they might learn something. Because of the information that is conveyed to the Commissioner of Police by the royal commissioner, some officers are stood down completely from all duties. Other officers are stood down but continue to carry out other activities within the Police Service. Of course, for many officers who are named, there is no contact between the royal commission and the Commissioner of Police. In that case, no action is taken.
(1)-(2) I suspect that a really easy dorothy dixer could follow on from this question. Perhaps the member for Kalgoorlie needs to get up a little earlier in the morning if he thinks he will catch me out. Protocols are in place at the royal commission. If there is a prospect of an adverse finding about someone at the royal commission, that person is advised first of all, because that is a matter of natural justice. In addition to that, a protocol is in place at the royal commission that when there are serious concerns about police officers and it is believed that it is likely that serious or adverse allegations could be sustained against police officers, the Commissioner of Police is informed. He then examines that information and makes his own assessment of what action will be taken, based on what the royal commission has put in front of him. In some instances - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: This is a very serious matter. If members opposite are interested in this issue, I suggest that they be quiet and listen because they might learn something. Because of the information that is conveyed to the Commissioner of Police by the royal commissioner, some officers are stood down completely from all duties. Other officers are stood down but continue to carry out other activities within the Police Service. Of course, for many officers who are named, there is no contact between the royal commission and the Commissioner of Police. In that case, no action is taken.
The SPEAKER: Members! Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: This is a very serious matter. If members opposite are interested in this issue, I suggest that they be quiet and listen because they might learn something. Because of the information that is conveyed to the Commissioner of Police by the royal commissioner, some officers are stood down completely from all duties. Other officers are stood down but continue to carry out other activities within the Police Service. Of course, for many officers who are named, there is no contact between the royal commission and the Commissioner of Police. In that case, no action is taken.
Mrs M.H. ROBERTS: This is a very serious matter. If members opposite are interested in this issue, I suggest that they be quiet and listen because they might learn something. Because of the information that is conveyed to the Commissioner of Police by the royal commissioner, some officers are stood down completely from all duties. Other officers are stood down but continue to carry out other activities within the Police Service. Of course, for many officers who are named, there is no contact between the royal commission and the Commissioner of Police. In that case, no action is taken.

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