❓ Question regarding the equity of the Minister's formula for the Country Local Government Fund compared to the WALGA's proposed grants commission formula. The Minister defends his formula but does not directly address the equity comparison.
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WESTERN AUSTRALIAN LOCAL GOVERNMENT ASSOCIATION — COUNTRY LOCAL GOVERNMENT FUND
I have a supplementary question. Can the minister explain why his formula is more equitable than that promoted by the Western Australian Local Government Association, which is the grants commission formula based on an objective assessment of need and the cost of delivering services in remote Western Australia? Mr B.J. GRYLLS
I have a supplementary question. Can the minister explain why his formula is more equitable than that promoted by the Western Australian Local Government Association, which is the grants commission formula based on an objective assessment of need and the cost of delivering services in remote Western Australia? Mr B.J. GRYLLS
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Yes, I can defend it because the formula is well known; it has been published. We have put it out there. Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : But why is it more equitable? The SPEAKER : Order, member for Armadale! Mr B.J. GRYLLS : It is more equitable because the formula put forward by WALGA — Several members interjected. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Is the member endorsing the WALGA formula? Is that what she would use? Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : I am asking you why your formula is more equitable. Several members interjected. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : I am not. I did not support the WALGA formula. The SPEAKER : If members to my left and to my right would stop interjecting, I think the minister might attempt to answer the question from the member for Armadale, and that would prevent the member for Armadale having to yell over members in this place to be heard by the minister. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Quite clearly, I place on the record again that the WALGA submission provided a basis for the government to work on a plan for the country local government fund. We took that advice. I worked with the Minister for Local Government and the department. We came up with a formula endorsed by the government, and we have rolled out the local government fund based on that formula.
Mr B.J. GRYLLS replied: Yes, I can defend it because the formula is well known; it has been published. We have put it out there. Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : But why is it more equitable? The SPEAKER : Order, member for Armadale! Mr B.J. GRYLLS : It is more equitable because the formula put forward by WALGA — Several members interjected. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Is the member endorsing the WALGA formula? Is that what she would use? Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : I am asking you why your formula is more equitable. Several members interjected. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : I am not. I did not support the WALGA formula. The SPEAKER : If members to my left and to my right would stop interjecting, I think the minister might attempt to answer the question from the member for Armadale, and that would prevent the member for Armadale having to yell over members in this place to be heard by the minister. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Quite clearly, I place on the record again that the WALGA submission provided a basis for the government to work on a plan for the country local government fund. We took that advice. I worked with the Minister for Local Government and the department. We came up with a formula endorsed by the government, and we have rolled out the local government fund based on that formula.
Yes, I can defend it because the formula is well known; it has been published. We have put it out there. Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : But why is it more equitable? The SPEAKER : Order, member for Armadale! Mr B.J. GRYLLS : It is more equitable because the formula put forward by WALGA — Several members interjected. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Is the member endorsing the WALGA formula? Is that what she would use? Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : I am asking you why your formula is more equitable. Several members interjected. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : I am not. I did not support the WALGA formula. The SPEAKER : If members to my left and to my right would stop interjecting, I think the minister might attempt to answer the question from the member for Armadale, and that would prevent the member for Armadale having to yell over members in this place to be heard by the minister. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Quite clearly, I place on the record again that the WALGA submission provided a basis for the government to work on a plan for the country local government fund. We took that advice. I worked with the Minister for Local Government and the department. We came up with a formula endorsed by the government, and we have rolled out the local government fund based on that formula.
Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : But why is it more equitable? The SPEAKER : Order, member for Armadale! Mr B.J. GRYLLS : It is more equitable because the formula put forward by WALGA — Several members interjected. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Is the member endorsing the WALGA formula? Is that what she would use? Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : I am asking you why your formula is more equitable. Several members interjected. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : I am not. I did not support the WALGA formula. The SPEAKER : If members to my left and to my right would stop interjecting, I think the minister might attempt to answer the question from the member for Armadale, and that would prevent the member for Armadale having to yell over members in this place to be heard by the minister. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Quite clearly, I place on the record again that the WALGA submission provided a basis for the government to work on a plan for the country local government fund. We took that advice. I worked with the Minister for Local Government and the department. We came up with a formula endorsed by the government, and we have rolled out the local government fund based on that formula.
The SPEAKER : Order, member for Armadale! Mr B.J. GRYLLS : It is more equitable because the formula put forward by WALGA — Several members interjected. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Is the member endorsing the WALGA formula? Is that what she would use? Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : I am asking you why your formula is more equitable. Several members interjected. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : I am not. I did not support the WALGA formula. The SPEAKER : If members to my left and to my right would stop interjecting, I think the minister might attempt to answer the question from the member for Armadale, and that would prevent the member for Armadale having to yell over members in this place to be heard by the minister. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Quite clearly, I place on the record again that the WALGA submission provided a basis for the government to work on a plan for the country local government fund. We took that advice. I worked with the Minister for Local Government and the department. We came up with a formula endorsed by the government, and we have rolled out the local government fund based on that formula.
Mr B.J. GRYLLS : It is more equitable because the formula put forward by WALGA — Several members interjected. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Is the member endorsing the WALGA formula? Is that what she would use? Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : I am asking you why your formula is more equitable. Several members interjected. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : I am not. I did not support the WALGA formula. The SPEAKER : If members to my left and to my right would stop interjecting, I think the minister might attempt to answer the question from the member for Armadale, and that would prevent the member for Armadale having to yell over members in this place to be heard by the minister. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Quite clearly, I place on the record again that the WALGA submission provided a basis for the government to work on a plan for the country local government fund. We took that advice. I worked with the Minister for Local Government and the department. We came up with a formula endorsed by the government, and we have rolled out the local government fund based on that formula.
Several members interjected. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Is the member endorsing the WALGA formula? Is that what she would use? Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : I am asking you why your formula is more equitable. Several members interjected. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : I am not. I did not support the WALGA formula. The SPEAKER : If members to my left and to my right would stop interjecting, I think the minister might attempt to answer the question from the member for Armadale, and that would prevent the member for Armadale having to yell over members in this place to be heard by the minister. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Quite clearly, I place on the record again that the WALGA submission provided a basis for the government to work on a plan for the country local government fund. We took that advice. I worked with the Minister for Local Government and the department. We came up with a formula endorsed by the government, and we have rolled out the local government fund based on that formula.
Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Is the member endorsing the WALGA formula? Is that what she would use? Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : I am asking you why your formula is more equitable. Several members interjected. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : I am not. I did not support the WALGA formula. The SPEAKER : If members to my left and to my right would stop interjecting, I think the minister might attempt to answer the question from the member for Armadale, and that would prevent the member for Armadale having to yell over members in this place to be heard by the minister. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Quite clearly, I place on the record again that the WALGA submission provided a basis for the government to work on a plan for the country local government fund. We took that advice. I worked with the Minister for Local Government and the department. We came up with a formula endorsed by the government, and we have rolled out the local government fund based on that formula.
Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : I am asking you why your formula is more equitable. Several members interjected. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : I am not. I did not support the WALGA formula. The SPEAKER : If members to my left and to my right would stop interjecting, I think the minister might attempt to answer the question from the member for Armadale, and that would prevent the member for Armadale having to yell over members in this place to be heard by the minister. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Quite clearly, I place on the record again that the WALGA submission provided a basis for the government to work on a plan for the country local government fund. We took that advice. I worked with the Minister for Local Government and the department. We came up with a formula endorsed by the government, and we have rolled out the local government fund based on that formula.
Several members interjected. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : I am not. I did not support the WALGA formula. The SPEAKER : If members to my left and to my right would stop interjecting, I think the minister might attempt to answer the question from the member for Armadale, and that would prevent the member for Armadale having to yell over members in this place to be heard by the minister. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Quite clearly, I place on the record again that the WALGA submission provided a basis for the government to work on a plan for the country local government fund. We took that advice. I worked with the Minister for Local Government and the department. We came up with a formula endorsed by the government, and we have rolled out the local government fund based on that formula.
Mr B.J. GRYLLS : I am not. I did not support the WALGA formula. The SPEAKER : If members to my left and to my right would stop interjecting, I think the minister might attempt to answer the question from the member for Armadale, and that would prevent the member for Armadale having to yell over members in this place to be heard by the minister. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Quite clearly, I place on the record again that the WALGA submission provided a basis for the government to work on a plan for the country local government fund. We took that advice. I worked with the Minister for Local Government and the department. We came up with a formula endorsed by the government, and we have rolled out the local government fund based on that formula.
The SPEAKER : If members to my left and to my right would stop interjecting, I think the minister might attempt to answer the question from the member for Armadale, and that would prevent the member for Armadale having to yell over members in this place to be heard by the minister. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Quite clearly, I place on the record again that the WALGA submission provided a basis for the government to work on a plan for the country local government fund. We took that advice. I worked with the Minister for Local Government and the department. We came up with a formula endorsed by the government, and we have rolled out the local government fund based on that formula.
Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Quite clearly, I place on the record again that the WALGA submission provided a basis for the government to work on a plan for the country local government fund. We took that advice. I worked with the Minister for Local Government and the department. We came up with a formula endorsed by the government, and we have rolled out the local government fund based on that formula.
Mr B.J. GRYLLS replied: Yes, I can defend it because the formula is well known; it has been published. We have put it out there. Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : But why is it more equitable? The SPEAKER : Order, member for Armadale! Mr B.J. GRYLLS : It is more equitable because the formula put forward by WALGA — Several members interjected. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Is the member endorsing the WALGA formula? Is that what she would use? Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : I am asking you why your formula is more equitable. Several members interjected. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : I am not. I did not support the WALGA formula. The SPEAKER : If members to my left and to my right would stop interjecting, I think the minister might attempt to answer the question from the member for Armadale, and that would prevent the member for Armadale having to yell over members in this place to be heard by the minister. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Quite clearly, I place on the record again that the WALGA submission provided a basis for the government to work on a plan for the country local government fund. We took that advice. I worked with the Minister for Local Government and the department. We came up with a formula endorsed by the government, and we have rolled out the local government fund based on that formula.
Yes, I can defend it because the formula is well known; it has been published. We have put it out there. Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : But why is it more equitable? The SPEAKER : Order, member for Armadale! Mr B.J. GRYLLS : It is more equitable because the formula put forward by WALGA — Several members interjected. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Is the member endorsing the WALGA formula? Is that what she would use? Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : I am asking you why your formula is more equitable. Several members interjected. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : I am not. I did not support the WALGA formula. The SPEAKER : If members to my left and to my right would stop interjecting, I think the minister might attempt to answer the question from the member for Armadale, and that would prevent the member for Armadale having to yell over members in this place to be heard by the minister. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Quite clearly, I place on the record again that the WALGA submission provided a basis for the government to work on a plan for the country local government fund. We took that advice. I worked with the Minister for Local Government and the department. We came up with a formula endorsed by the government, and we have rolled out the local government fund based on that formula.
Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : But why is it more equitable? The SPEAKER : Order, member for Armadale! Mr B.J. GRYLLS : It is more equitable because the formula put forward by WALGA — Several members interjected. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Is the member endorsing the WALGA formula? Is that what she would use? Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : I am asking you why your formula is more equitable. Several members interjected. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : I am not. I did not support the WALGA formula. The SPEAKER : If members to my left and to my right would stop interjecting, I think the minister might attempt to answer the question from the member for Armadale, and that would prevent the member for Armadale having to yell over members in this place to be heard by the minister. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Quite clearly, I place on the record again that the WALGA submission provided a basis for the government to work on a plan for the country local government fund. We took that advice. I worked with the Minister for Local Government and the department. We came up with a formula endorsed by the government, and we have rolled out the local government fund based on that formula.
The SPEAKER : Order, member for Armadale! Mr B.J. GRYLLS : It is more equitable because the formula put forward by WALGA — Several members interjected. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Is the member endorsing the WALGA formula? Is that what she would use? Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : I am asking you why your formula is more equitable. Several members interjected. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : I am not. I did not support the WALGA formula. The SPEAKER : If members to my left and to my right would stop interjecting, I think the minister might attempt to answer the question from the member for Armadale, and that would prevent the member for Armadale having to yell over members in this place to be heard by the minister. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Quite clearly, I place on the record again that the WALGA submission provided a basis for the government to work on a plan for the country local government fund. We took that advice. I worked with the Minister for Local Government and the department. We came up with a formula endorsed by the government, and we have rolled out the local government fund based on that formula.
Mr B.J. GRYLLS : It is more equitable because the formula put forward by WALGA — Several members interjected. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Is the member endorsing the WALGA formula? Is that what she would use? Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : I am asking you why your formula is more equitable. Several members interjected. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : I am not. I did not support the WALGA formula. The SPEAKER : If members to my left and to my right would stop interjecting, I think the minister might attempt to answer the question from the member for Armadale, and that would prevent the member for Armadale having to yell over members in this place to be heard by the minister. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Quite clearly, I place on the record again that the WALGA submission provided a basis for the government to work on a plan for the country local government fund. We took that advice. I worked with the Minister for Local Government and the department. We came up with a formula endorsed by the government, and we have rolled out the local government fund based on that formula.
Several members interjected. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Is the member endorsing the WALGA formula? Is that what she would use? Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : I am asking you why your formula is more equitable. Several members interjected. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : I am not. I did not support the WALGA formula. The SPEAKER : If members to my left and to my right would stop interjecting, I think the minister might attempt to answer the question from the member for Armadale, and that would prevent the member for Armadale having to yell over members in this place to be heard by the minister. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Quite clearly, I place on the record again that the WALGA submission provided a basis for the government to work on a plan for the country local government fund. We took that advice. I worked with the Minister for Local Government and the department. We came up with a formula endorsed by the government, and we have rolled out the local government fund based on that formula.
Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Is the member endorsing the WALGA formula? Is that what she would use? Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : I am asking you why your formula is more equitable. Several members interjected. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : I am not. I did not support the WALGA formula. The SPEAKER : If members to my left and to my right would stop interjecting, I think the minister might attempt to answer the question from the member for Armadale, and that would prevent the member for Armadale having to yell over members in this place to be heard by the minister. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Quite clearly, I place on the record again that the WALGA submission provided a basis for the government to work on a plan for the country local government fund. We took that advice. I worked with the Minister for Local Government and the department. We came up with a formula endorsed by the government, and we have rolled out the local government fund based on that formula.
Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : I am asking you why your formula is more equitable. Several members interjected. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : I am not. I did not support the WALGA formula. The SPEAKER : If members to my left and to my right would stop interjecting, I think the minister might attempt to answer the question from the member for Armadale, and that would prevent the member for Armadale having to yell over members in this place to be heard by the minister. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Quite clearly, I place on the record again that the WALGA submission provided a basis for the government to work on a plan for the country local government fund. We took that advice. I worked with the Minister for Local Government and the department. We came up with a formula endorsed by the government, and we have rolled out the local government fund based on that formula.
Several members interjected. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : I am not. I did not support the WALGA formula. The SPEAKER : If members to my left and to my right would stop interjecting, I think the minister might attempt to answer the question from the member for Armadale, and that would prevent the member for Armadale having to yell over members in this place to be heard by the minister. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Quite clearly, I place on the record again that the WALGA submission provided a basis for the government to work on a plan for the country local government fund. We took that advice. I worked with the Minister for Local Government and the department. We came up with a formula endorsed by the government, and we have rolled out the local government fund based on that formula.
Mr B.J. GRYLLS : I am not. I did not support the WALGA formula. The SPEAKER : If members to my left and to my right would stop interjecting, I think the minister might attempt to answer the question from the member for Armadale, and that would prevent the member for Armadale having to yell over members in this place to be heard by the minister. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Quite clearly, I place on the record again that the WALGA submission provided a basis for the government to work on a plan for the country local government fund. We took that advice. I worked with the Minister for Local Government and the department. We came up with a formula endorsed by the government, and we have rolled out the local government fund based on that formula.
The SPEAKER : If members to my left and to my right would stop interjecting, I think the minister might attempt to answer the question from the member for Armadale, and that would prevent the member for Armadale having to yell over members in this place to be heard by the minister. Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Quite clearly, I place on the record again that the WALGA submission provided a basis for the government to work on a plan for the country local government fund. We took that advice. I worked with the Minister for Local Government and the department. We came up with a formula endorsed by the government, and we have rolled out the local government fund based on that formula.
Mr B.J. GRYLLS : Quite clearly, I place on the record again that the WALGA submission provided a basis for the government to work on a plan for the country local government fund. We took that advice. I worked with the Minister for Local Government and the department. We came up with a formula endorsed by the government, and we have rolled out the local government fund based on that formula.
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