❓ Dr. Constable questions the Education Minister about redundancies offered and accepted within the Education Department since the government took power. Minister Carpenter deflects, stating the redundancies are part of a broader government review and he lacks specific figures, promising to provide them later.
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EDUCATION DEPARTMENT, REDUNDANCIES
(1) How many employees in the Education Department have been offered redundancies since the Government came to power? (2) How many employees have indicated that they will accept redundancies? (3) Which officers have formally accepted redundancies, and what positions will they vacate? Mr CARPENTER
(1) How many employees in the Education Department have been offered redundancies since the Government came to power? (2) How many employees have indicated that they will accept redundancies? (3) Which officers have formally accepted redundancies, and what positions will they vacate? Mr CARPENTER
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(1)-(3) This issue has been brought to the attention of ministers in this Chamber before in relation to the Health Department. The redundancy program to which the member refers is being run in association with the Machinery of Government Taskforce review. Those redundancies are being offered by that machinery of government review from the Ministry of the Premier and Cabinet. It is not being done by the Minister for Education or the Minister for - Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: How would I know how many have been offered? I do not have that information. I explained this morning in my ministerial statement that the Director General of Education, Peter Browne had accepted one of those redundancies and he effectively retires tomorrow. Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: It is part of the machinery of government process. I do not have the exact number. My understanding is that a number of other members of the senior executive of the Education Department have applied for redundancy packages. I am unaware of how many have been accepted. I expect to receive that information either tonight or tomorrow. I have deliberately stayed out of that process because - Mr Trenorden: Of course you have - you are the minister! Mr CARPENTER: The member for Avon should understand the Public Sector Management Act. I deliberately did not become involved in that process because I understood that some political flak would be generated from the other side of the Chamber over this issue if I became involved. Dr Constable interjected. Mr CARPENTER: Peter Browne is the only one with whom I have had direct communication in relation to this matter. I am aware that other people have applied for redundancy, but I do not yet know the exact number. I will find that information and provide it to the member when I am given that information officially, and not via second hand reports.
(2) How many employees have indicated that they will accept redundancies? (3) Which officers have formally accepted redundancies, and what positions will they vacate? Mr CARPENTER replied: (1)-(3) This issue has been brought to the attention of ministers in this Chamber before in relation to the Health Department. The redundancy program to which the member refers is being run in association with the Machinery of Government Taskforce review. Those redundancies are being offered by that machinery of government review from the Ministry of the Premier and Cabinet. It is not being done by the Minister for Education or the Minister for - Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: How would I know how many have been offered? I do not have that information. I explained this morning in my ministerial statement that the Director General of Education, Peter Browne had accepted one of those redundancies and he effectively retires tomorrow. Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: It is part of the machinery of government process. I do not have the exact number. My understanding is that a number of other members of the senior executive of the Education Department have applied for redundancy packages. I am unaware of how many have been accepted. I expect to receive that information either tonight or tomorrow. I have deliberately stayed out of that process because - Mr Trenorden: Of course you have - you are the minister! Mr CARPENTER: The member for Avon should understand the Public Sector Management Act. I deliberately did not become involved in that process because I understood that some political flak would be generated from the other side of the Chamber over this issue if I became involved. Dr Constable interjected. Mr CARPENTER: Peter Browne is the only one with whom I have had direct communication in relation to this matter. I am aware that other people have applied for redundancy, but I do not yet know the exact number. I will find that information and provide it to the member when I am given that information officially, and not via second hand reports.
(3) Which officers have formally accepted redundancies, and what positions will they vacate? Mr CARPENTER replied: (1)-(3) This issue has been brought to the attention of ministers in this Chamber before in relation to the Health Department. The redundancy program to which the member refers is being run in association with the Machinery of Government Taskforce review. Those redundancies are being offered by that machinery of government review from the Ministry of the Premier and Cabinet. It is not being done by the Minister for Education or the Minister for - Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: How would I know how many have been offered? I do not have that information. I explained this morning in my ministerial statement that the Director General of Education, Peter Browne had accepted one of those redundancies and he effectively retires tomorrow. Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: It is part of the machinery of government process. I do not have the exact number. My understanding is that a number of other members of the senior executive of the Education Department have applied for redundancy packages. I am unaware of how many have been accepted. I expect to receive that information either tonight or tomorrow. I have deliberately stayed out of that process because - Mr Trenorden: Of course you have - you are the minister! Mr CARPENTER: The member for Avon should understand the Public Sector Management Act. I deliberately did not become involved in that process because I understood that some political flak would be generated from the other side of the Chamber over this issue if I became involved. Dr Constable interjected. Mr CARPENTER: Peter Browne is the only one with whom I have had direct communication in relation to this matter. I am aware that other people have applied for redundancy, but I do not yet know the exact number. I will find that information and provide it to the member when I am given that information officially, and not via second hand reports.
Mr CARPENTER replied: (1)-(3) This issue has been brought to the attention of ministers in this Chamber before in relation to the Health Department. The redundancy program to which the member refers is being run in association with the Machinery of Government Taskforce review. Those redundancies are being offered by that machinery of government review from the Ministry of the Premier and Cabinet. It is not being done by the Minister for Education or the Minister for - Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: How would I know how many have been offered? I do not have that information. I explained this morning in my ministerial statement that the Director General of Education, Peter Browne had accepted one of those redundancies and he effectively retires tomorrow. Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: It is part of the machinery of government process. I do not have the exact number. My understanding is that a number of other members of the senior executive of the Education Department have applied for redundancy packages. I am unaware of how many have been accepted. I expect to receive that information either tonight or tomorrow. I have deliberately stayed out of that process because - Mr Trenorden: Of course you have - you are the minister! Mr CARPENTER: The member for Avon should understand the Public Sector Management Act. I deliberately did not become involved in that process because I understood that some political flak would be generated from the other side of the Chamber over this issue if I became involved. Dr Constable interjected. Mr CARPENTER: Peter Browne is the only one with whom I have had direct communication in relation to this matter. I am aware that other people have applied for redundancy, but I do not yet know the exact number. I will find that information and provide it to the member when I am given that information officially, and not via second hand reports.
(1)-(3) This issue has been brought to the attention of ministers in this Chamber before in relation to the Health Department. The redundancy program to which the member refers is being run in association with the Machinery of Government Taskforce review. Those redundancies are being offered by that machinery of government review from the Ministry of the Premier and Cabinet. It is not being done by the Minister for Education or the Minister for - Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: How would I know how many have been offered? I do not have that information. I explained this morning in my ministerial statement that the Director General of Education, Peter Browne had accepted one of those redundancies and he effectively retires tomorrow. Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: It is part of the machinery of government process. I do not have the exact number. My understanding is that a number of other members of the senior executive of the Education Department have applied for redundancy packages. I am unaware of how many have been accepted. I expect to receive that information either tonight or tomorrow. I have deliberately stayed out of that process because - Mr Trenorden: Of course you have - you are the minister! Mr CARPENTER: The member for Avon should understand the Public Sector Management Act. I deliberately did not become involved in that process because I understood that some political flak would be generated from the other side of the Chamber over this issue if I became involved. Dr Constable interjected. Mr CARPENTER: Peter Browne is the only one with whom I have had direct communication in relation to this matter. I am aware that other people have applied for redundancy, but I do not yet know the exact number. I will find that information and provide it to the member when I am given that information officially, and not via second hand reports.
Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: How would I know how many have been offered? I do not have that information. I explained this morning in my ministerial statement that the Director General of Education, Peter Browne had accepted one of those redundancies and he effectively retires tomorrow. Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: It is part of the machinery of government process. I do not have the exact number. My understanding is that a number of other members of the senior executive of the Education Department have applied for redundancy packages. I am unaware of how many have been accepted. I expect to receive that information either tonight or tomorrow. I have deliberately stayed out of that process because - Mr Trenorden: Of course you have - you are the minister! Mr CARPENTER: The member for Avon should understand the Public Sector Management Act. I deliberately did not become involved in that process because I understood that some political flak would be generated from the other side of the Chamber over this issue if I became involved. Dr Constable interjected. Mr CARPENTER: Peter Browne is the only one with whom I have had direct communication in relation to this matter. I am aware that other people have applied for redundancy, but I do not yet know the exact number. I will find that information and provide it to the member when I am given that information officially, and not via second hand reports.
Mr CARPENTER: How would I know how many have been offered? I do not have that information. I explained this morning in my ministerial statement that the Director General of Education, Peter Browne had accepted one of those redundancies and he effectively retires tomorrow. Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: It is part of the machinery of government process. I do not have the exact number. My understanding is that a number of other members of the senior executive of the Education Department have applied for redundancy packages. I am unaware of how many have been accepted. I expect to receive that information either tonight or tomorrow. I have deliberately stayed out of that process because - Mr Trenorden: Of course you have - you are the minister! Mr CARPENTER: The member for Avon should understand the Public Sector Management Act. I deliberately did not become involved in that process because I understood that some political flak would be generated from the other side of the Chamber over this issue if I became involved. Dr Constable interjected. Mr CARPENTER: Peter Browne is the only one with whom I have had direct communication in relation to this matter. I am aware that other people have applied for redundancy, but I do not yet know the exact number. I will find that information and provide it to the member when I am given that information officially, and not via second hand reports.
Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: It is part of the machinery of government process. I do not have the exact number. My understanding is that a number of other members of the senior executive of the Education Department have applied for redundancy packages. I am unaware of how many have been accepted. I expect to receive that information either tonight or tomorrow. I have deliberately stayed out of that process because - Mr Trenorden: Of course you have - you are the minister! Mr CARPENTER: The member for Avon should understand the Public Sector Management Act. I deliberately did not become involved in that process because I understood that some political flak would be generated from the other side of the Chamber over this issue if I became involved. Dr Constable interjected. Mr CARPENTER: Peter Browne is the only one with whom I have had direct communication in relation to this matter. I am aware that other people have applied for redundancy, but I do not yet know the exact number. I will find that information and provide it to the member when I am given that information officially, and not via second hand reports.
Mr CARPENTER: It is part of the machinery of government process. I do not have the exact number. My understanding is that a number of other members of the senior executive of the Education Department have applied for redundancy packages. I am unaware of how many have been accepted. I expect to receive that information either tonight or tomorrow. I have deliberately stayed out of that process because - Mr Trenorden: Of course you have - you are the minister! Mr CARPENTER: The member for Avon should understand the Public Sector Management Act. I deliberately did not become involved in that process because I understood that some political flak would be generated from the other side of the Chamber over this issue if I became involved. Dr Constable interjected. Mr CARPENTER: Peter Browne is the only one with whom I have had direct communication in relation to this matter. I am aware that other people have applied for redundancy, but I do not yet know the exact number. I will find that information and provide it to the member when I am given that information officially, and not via second hand reports.
Mr Trenorden: Of course you have - you are the minister! Mr CARPENTER: The member for Avon should understand the Public Sector Management Act. I deliberately did not become involved in that process because I understood that some political flak would be generated from the other side of the Chamber over this issue if I became involved. Dr Constable interjected. Mr CARPENTER: Peter Browne is the only one with whom I have had direct communication in relation to this matter. I am aware that other people have applied for redundancy, but I do not yet know the exact number. I will find that information and provide it to the member when I am given that information officially, and not via second hand reports.
Mr CARPENTER: The member for Avon should understand the Public Sector Management Act. I deliberately did not become involved in that process because I understood that some political flak would be generated from the other side of the Chamber over this issue if I became involved. Dr Constable interjected. Mr CARPENTER: Peter Browne is the only one with whom I have had direct communication in relation to this matter. I am aware that other people have applied for redundancy, but I do not yet know the exact number. I will find that information and provide it to the member when I am given that information officially, and not via second hand reports.
Dr Constable interjected. Mr CARPENTER: Peter Browne is the only one with whom I have had direct communication in relation to this matter. I am aware that other people have applied for redundancy, but I do not yet know the exact number. I will find that information and provide it to the member when I am given that information officially, and not via second hand reports.
Mr CARPENTER: Peter Browne is the only one with whom I have had direct communication in relation to this matter. I am aware that other people have applied for redundancy, but I do not yet know the exact number. I will find that information and provide it to the member when I am given that information officially, and not via second hand reports.
(2) How many employees have indicated that they will accept redundancies? (3) Which officers have formally accepted redundancies, and what positions will they vacate? Mr CARPENTER replied: (1)-(3) This issue has been brought to the attention of ministers in this Chamber before in relation to the Health Department. The redundancy program to which the member refers is being run in association with the Machinery of Government Taskforce review. Those redundancies are being offered by that machinery of government review from the Ministry of the Premier and Cabinet. It is not being done by the Minister for Education or the Minister for - Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: How would I know how many have been offered? I do not have that information. I explained this morning in my ministerial statement that the Director General of Education, Peter Browne had accepted one of those redundancies and he effectively retires tomorrow. Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: It is part of the machinery of government process. I do not have the exact number. My understanding is that a number of other members of the senior executive of the Education Department have applied for redundancy packages. I am unaware of how many have been accepted. I expect to receive that information either tonight or tomorrow. I have deliberately stayed out of that process because - Mr Trenorden: Of course you have - you are the minister! Mr CARPENTER: The member for Avon should understand the Public Sector Management Act. I deliberately did not become involved in that process because I understood that some political flak would be generated from the other side of the Chamber over this issue if I became involved. Dr Constable interjected. Mr CARPENTER: Peter Browne is the only one with whom I have had direct communication in relation to this matter. I am aware that other people have applied for redundancy, but I do not yet know the exact number. I will find that information and provide it to the member when I am given that information officially, and not via second hand reports.
(3) Which officers have formally accepted redundancies, and what positions will they vacate? Mr CARPENTER replied: (1)-(3) This issue has been brought to the attention of ministers in this Chamber before in relation to the Health Department. The redundancy program to which the member refers is being run in association with the Machinery of Government Taskforce review. Those redundancies are being offered by that machinery of government review from the Ministry of the Premier and Cabinet. It is not being done by the Minister for Education or the Minister for - Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: How would I know how many have been offered? I do not have that information. I explained this morning in my ministerial statement that the Director General of Education, Peter Browne had accepted one of those redundancies and he effectively retires tomorrow. Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: It is part of the machinery of government process. I do not have the exact number. My understanding is that a number of other members of the senior executive of the Education Department have applied for redundancy packages. I am unaware of how many have been accepted. I expect to receive that information either tonight or tomorrow. I have deliberately stayed out of that process because - Mr Trenorden: Of course you have - you are the minister! Mr CARPENTER: The member for Avon should understand the Public Sector Management Act. I deliberately did not become involved in that process because I understood that some political flak would be generated from the other side of the Chamber over this issue if I became involved. Dr Constable interjected. Mr CARPENTER: Peter Browne is the only one with whom I have had direct communication in relation to this matter. I am aware that other people have applied for redundancy, but I do not yet know the exact number. I will find that information and provide it to the member when I am given that information officially, and not via second hand reports.
Mr CARPENTER replied: (1)-(3) This issue has been brought to the attention of ministers in this Chamber before in relation to the Health Department. The redundancy program to which the member refers is being run in association with the Machinery of Government Taskforce review. Those redundancies are being offered by that machinery of government review from the Ministry of the Premier and Cabinet. It is not being done by the Minister for Education or the Minister for - Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: How would I know how many have been offered? I do not have that information. I explained this morning in my ministerial statement that the Director General of Education, Peter Browne had accepted one of those redundancies and he effectively retires tomorrow. Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: It is part of the machinery of government process. I do not have the exact number. My understanding is that a number of other members of the senior executive of the Education Department have applied for redundancy packages. I am unaware of how many have been accepted. I expect to receive that information either tonight or tomorrow. I have deliberately stayed out of that process because - Mr Trenorden: Of course you have - you are the minister! Mr CARPENTER: The member for Avon should understand the Public Sector Management Act. I deliberately did not become involved in that process because I understood that some political flak would be generated from the other side of the Chamber over this issue if I became involved. Dr Constable interjected. Mr CARPENTER: Peter Browne is the only one with whom I have had direct communication in relation to this matter. I am aware that other people have applied for redundancy, but I do not yet know the exact number. I will find that information and provide it to the member when I am given that information officially, and not via second hand reports.
(1)-(3) This issue has been brought to the attention of ministers in this Chamber before in relation to the Health Department. The redundancy program to which the member refers is being run in association with the Machinery of Government Taskforce review. Those redundancies are being offered by that machinery of government review from the Ministry of the Premier and Cabinet. It is not being done by the Minister for Education or the Minister for - Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: How would I know how many have been offered? I do not have that information. I explained this morning in my ministerial statement that the Director General of Education, Peter Browne had accepted one of those redundancies and he effectively retires tomorrow. Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: It is part of the machinery of government process. I do not have the exact number. My understanding is that a number of other members of the senior executive of the Education Department have applied for redundancy packages. I am unaware of how many have been accepted. I expect to receive that information either tonight or tomorrow. I have deliberately stayed out of that process because - Mr Trenorden: Of course you have - you are the minister! Mr CARPENTER: The member for Avon should understand the Public Sector Management Act. I deliberately did not become involved in that process because I understood that some political flak would be generated from the other side of the Chamber over this issue if I became involved. Dr Constable interjected. Mr CARPENTER: Peter Browne is the only one with whom I have had direct communication in relation to this matter. I am aware that other people have applied for redundancy, but I do not yet know the exact number. I will find that information and provide it to the member when I am given that information officially, and not via second hand reports.
Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: How would I know how many have been offered? I do not have that information. I explained this morning in my ministerial statement that the Director General of Education, Peter Browne had accepted one of those redundancies and he effectively retires tomorrow. Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: It is part of the machinery of government process. I do not have the exact number. My understanding is that a number of other members of the senior executive of the Education Department have applied for redundancy packages. I am unaware of how many have been accepted. I expect to receive that information either tonight or tomorrow. I have deliberately stayed out of that process because - Mr Trenorden: Of course you have - you are the minister! Mr CARPENTER: The member for Avon should understand the Public Sector Management Act. I deliberately did not become involved in that process because I understood that some political flak would be generated from the other side of the Chamber over this issue if I became involved. Dr Constable interjected. Mr CARPENTER: Peter Browne is the only one with whom I have had direct communication in relation to this matter. I am aware that other people have applied for redundancy, but I do not yet know the exact number. I will find that information and provide it to the member when I am given that information officially, and not via second hand reports.
Mr CARPENTER: How would I know how many have been offered? I do not have that information. I explained this morning in my ministerial statement that the Director General of Education, Peter Browne had accepted one of those redundancies and he effectively retires tomorrow. Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: It is part of the machinery of government process. I do not have the exact number. My understanding is that a number of other members of the senior executive of the Education Department have applied for redundancy packages. I am unaware of how many have been accepted. I expect to receive that information either tonight or tomorrow. I have deliberately stayed out of that process because - Mr Trenorden: Of course you have - you are the minister! Mr CARPENTER: The member for Avon should understand the Public Sector Management Act. I deliberately did not become involved in that process because I understood that some political flak would be generated from the other side of the Chamber over this issue if I became involved. Dr Constable interjected. Mr CARPENTER: Peter Browne is the only one with whom I have had direct communication in relation to this matter. I am aware that other people have applied for redundancy, but I do not yet know the exact number. I will find that information and provide it to the member when I am given that information officially, and not via second hand reports.
Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: It is part of the machinery of government process. I do not have the exact number. My understanding is that a number of other members of the senior executive of the Education Department have applied for redundancy packages. I am unaware of how many have been accepted. I expect to receive that information either tonight or tomorrow. I have deliberately stayed out of that process because - Mr Trenorden: Of course you have - you are the minister! Mr CARPENTER: The member for Avon should understand the Public Sector Management Act. I deliberately did not become involved in that process because I understood that some political flak would be generated from the other side of the Chamber over this issue if I became involved. Dr Constable interjected. Mr CARPENTER: Peter Browne is the only one with whom I have had direct communication in relation to this matter. I am aware that other people have applied for redundancy, but I do not yet know the exact number. I will find that information and provide it to the member when I am given that information officially, and not via second hand reports.
Mr CARPENTER: It is part of the machinery of government process. I do not have the exact number. My understanding is that a number of other members of the senior executive of the Education Department have applied for redundancy packages. I am unaware of how many have been accepted. I expect to receive that information either tonight or tomorrow. I have deliberately stayed out of that process because - Mr Trenorden: Of course you have - you are the minister! Mr CARPENTER: The member for Avon should understand the Public Sector Management Act. I deliberately did not become involved in that process because I understood that some political flak would be generated from the other side of the Chamber over this issue if I became involved. Dr Constable interjected. Mr CARPENTER: Peter Browne is the only one with whom I have had direct communication in relation to this matter. I am aware that other people have applied for redundancy, but I do not yet know the exact number. I will find that information and provide it to the member when I am given that information officially, and not via second hand reports.
Mr Trenorden: Of course you have - you are the minister! Mr CARPENTER: The member for Avon should understand the Public Sector Management Act. I deliberately did not become involved in that process because I understood that some political flak would be generated from the other side of the Chamber over this issue if I became involved. Dr Constable interjected. Mr CARPENTER: Peter Browne is the only one with whom I have had direct communication in relation to this matter. I am aware that other people have applied for redundancy, but I do not yet know the exact number. I will find that information and provide it to the member when I am given that information officially, and not via second hand reports.
Mr CARPENTER: The member for Avon should understand the Public Sector Management Act. I deliberately did not become involved in that process because I understood that some political flak would be generated from the other side of the Chamber over this issue if I became involved. Dr Constable interjected. Mr CARPENTER: Peter Browne is the only one with whom I have had direct communication in relation to this matter. I am aware that other people have applied for redundancy, but I do not yet know the exact number. I will find that information and provide it to the member when I am given that information officially, and not via second hand reports.
Dr Constable interjected. Mr CARPENTER: Peter Browne is the only one with whom I have had direct communication in relation to this matter. I am aware that other people have applied for redundancy, but I do not yet know the exact number. I will find that information and provide it to the member when I am given that information officially, and not via second hand reports.
Mr CARPENTER: Peter Browne is the only one with whom I have had direct communication in relation to this matter. I am aware that other people have applied for redundancy, but I do not yet know the exact number. I will find that information and provide it to the member when I am given that information officially, and not via second hand reports.
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