❓ Hon Norman Moore asks the Minister for Education and Training about her past views on outcomes-based education. The Minister's response avoids directly stating her previous position, instead focusing on her current support for the outcomes and standards framework and attacking the opposition's criticism.
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What was the minister’s view on outcomes-based education when she spoke in this house on the bill to create the Curriculum Council in 1997? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH
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First of all, I have memories of that legislation going through in 1997 and creating the Curriculum Council. There is no doubt that I raised some issues as an opposition member would, as part of the debate. Since looking at what happens in classrooms and, although I have visited only 55 schools, I must have visited at least 100 classrooms - Hon Norman Moore : Is the minister saying that she has changed her mind? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am saying that I am very supportive of the outcomes and standards framework. The most telling thing in the last interchange between Hon Barry House and me in my response to his question was that he made the point that the whole thing is no good since Peter Browne is no longer in the department. The member thinks that the department has gone downhill and is no good because Peter Browne is no longer there. If anything reflected an absolute blight on the system and if anything reflected the member’s view that teachers are worthless and that the students are not worth fighting for and not worth working towards giving them the opportunities that they deserve, it is that. The member opposite is deliberately destructive because Peter Browne is no longer there. I am appalled. The member chooses to play party politics with education, as does his federal counterpart, Minister Nelson. I know Peter Browne; however - Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! We are wasting the opportunity of question time if there is to be this level of interjection. Five members have indicated that they want to ask questions and they are being prevented by unnecessary interjections. Let us hear the minister conclude and we can move along. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am acting on behalf of the parents and students of Western Australia, the teachers who work in our schools, the Catholic Education Commission, the independent schools and the State School Teachers’ Union of WA. Everybody has been working on the outcomes and standards framework. Everybody has been looking to improve the education system, but the member opposite chooses to talk down and deliberately destroy the education system because his friend, Peter Browne, is no longer there. That is appalling! Hon Barry House interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Everybody should distance themselves from you, sport! The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! I want to offer the opportunity to Hon Helen Morton, Hon Nigel Hallett and Hon Peter Collier to ask questions. I realise that some longer serving members will not be able to ask questions today. I will take that up with them later on!
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: First of all, I have memories of that legislation going through in 1997 and creating the Curriculum Council. There is no doubt that I raised some issues as an opposition member would, as part of the debate. Since looking at what happens in classrooms and, although I have visited only 55 schools, I must have visited at least 100 classrooms - Hon Norman Moore : Is the minister saying that she has changed her mind? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am saying that I am very supportive of the outcomes and standards framework. The most telling thing in the last interchange between Hon Barry House and me in my response to his question was that he made the point that the whole thing is no good since Peter Browne is no longer in the department. The member thinks that the department has gone downhill and is no good because Peter Browne is no longer there. If anything reflected an absolute blight on the system and if anything reflected the member’s view that teachers are worthless and that the students are not worth fighting for and not worth working towards giving them the opportunities that they deserve, it is that. The member opposite is deliberately destructive because Peter Browne is no longer there. I am appalled. The member chooses to play party politics with education, as does his federal counterpart, Minister Nelson. I know Peter Browne; however - Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! We are wasting the opportunity of question time if there is to be this level of interjection. Five members have indicated that they want to ask questions and they are being prevented by unnecessary interjections. Let us hear the minister conclude and we can move along. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am acting on behalf of the parents and students of Western Australia, the teachers who work in our schools, the Catholic Education Commission, the independent schools and the State School Teachers’ Union of WA. Everybody has been working on the outcomes and standards framework. Everybody has been looking to improve the education system, but the member opposite chooses to talk down and deliberately destroy the education system because his friend, Peter Browne, is no longer there. That is appalling! Hon Barry House interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Everybody should distance themselves from you, sport! The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! I want to offer the opportunity to Hon Helen Morton, Hon Nigel Hallett and Hon Peter Collier to ask questions. I realise that some longer serving members will not be able to ask questions today. I will take that up with them later on!
First of all, I have memories of that legislation going through in 1997 and creating the Curriculum Council. There is no doubt that I raised some issues as an opposition member would, as part of the debate. Since looking at what happens in classrooms and, although I have visited only 55 schools, I must have visited at least 100 classrooms - Hon Norman Moore : Is the minister saying that she has changed her mind? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am saying that I am very supportive of the outcomes and standards framework. The most telling thing in the last interchange between Hon Barry House and me in my response to his question was that he made the point that the whole thing is no good since Peter Browne is no longer in the department. The member thinks that the department has gone downhill and is no good because Peter Browne is no longer there. If anything reflected an absolute blight on the system and if anything reflected the member’s view that teachers are worthless and that the students are not worth fighting for and not worth working towards giving them the opportunities that they deserve, it is that. The member opposite is deliberately destructive because Peter Browne is no longer there. I am appalled. The member chooses to play party politics with education, as does his federal counterpart, Minister Nelson. I know Peter Browne; however - Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! We are wasting the opportunity of question time if there is to be this level of interjection. Five members have indicated that they want to ask questions and they are being prevented by unnecessary interjections. Let us hear the minister conclude and we can move along. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am acting on behalf of the parents and students of Western Australia, the teachers who work in our schools, the Catholic Education Commission, the independent schools and the State School Teachers’ Union of WA. Everybody has been working on the outcomes and standards framework. Everybody has been looking to improve the education system, but the member opposite chooses to talk down and deliberately destroy the education system because his friend, Peter Browne, is no longer there. That is appalling! Hon Barry House interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Everybody should distance themselves from you, sport! The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! I want to offer the opportunity to Hon Helen Morton, Hon Nigel Hallett and Hon Peter Collier to ask questions. I realise that some longer serving members will not be able to ask questions today. I will take that up with them later on!
Hon Norman Moore : Is the minister saying that she has changed her mind? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am saying that I am very supportive of the outcomes and standards framework. The most telling thing in the last interchange between Hon Barry House and me in my response to his question was that he made the point that the whole thing is no good since Peter Browne is no longer in the department. The member thinks that the department has gone downhill and is no good because Peter Browne is no longer there. If anything reflected an absolute blight on the system and if anything reflected the member’s view that teachers are worthless and that the students are not worth fighting for and not worth working towards giving them the opportunities that they deserve, it is that. The member opposite is deliberately destructive because Peter Browne is no longer there. I am appalled. The member chooses to play party politics with education, as does his federal counterpart, Minister Nelson. I know Peter Browne; however - Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! We are wasting the opportunity of question time if there is to be this level of interjection. Five members have indicated that they want to ask questions and they are being prevented by unnecessary interjections. Let us hear the minister conclude and we can move along. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am acting on behalf of the parents and students of Western Australia, the teachers who work in our schools, the Catholic Education Commission, the independent schools and the State School Teachers’ Union of WA. Everybody has been working on the outcomes and standards framework. Everybody has been looking to improve the education system, but the member opposite chooses to talk down and deliberately destroy the education system because his friend, Peter Browne, is no longer there. That is appalling! Hon Barry House interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Everybody should distance themselves from you, sport! The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! I want to offer the opportunity to Hon Helen Morton, Hon Nigel Hallett and Hon Peter Collier to ask questions. I realise that some longer serving members will not be able to ask questions today. I will take that up with them later on!
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am saying that I am very supportive of the outcomes and standards framework. The most telling thing in the last interchange between Hon Barry House and me in my response to his question was that he made the point that the whole thing is no good since Peter Browne is no longer in the department. The member thinks that the department has gone downhill and is no good because Peter Browne is no longer there. If anything reflected an absolute blight on the system and if anything reflected the member’s view that teachers are worthless and that the students are not worth fighting for and not worth working towards giving them the opportunities that they deserve, it is that. The member opposite is deliberately destructive because Peter Browne is no longer there. I am appalled. The member chooses to play party politics with education, as does his federal counterpart, Minister Nelson. I know Peter Browne; however - Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! We are wasting the opportunity of question time if there is to be this level of interjection. Five members have indicated that they want to ask questions and they are being prevented by unnecessary interjections. Let us hear the minister conclude and we can move along. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am acting on behalf of the parents and students of Western Australia, the teachers who work in our schools, the Catholic Education Commission, the independent schools and the State School Teachers’ Union of WA. Everybody has been working on the outcomes and standards framework. Everybody has been looking to improve the education system, but the member opposite chooses to talk down and deliberately destroy the education system because his friend, Peter Browne, is no longer there. That is appalling! Hon Barry House interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Everybody should distance themselves from you, sport! The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! I want to offer the opportunity to Hon Helen Morton, Hon Nigel Hallett and Hon Peter Collier to ask questions. I realise that some longer serving members will not be able to ask questions today. I will take that up with them later on!
I know Peter Browne; however - Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! We are wasting the opportunity of question time if there is to be this level of interjection. Five members have indicated that they want to ask questions and they are being prevented by unnecessary interjections. Let us hear the minister conclude and we can move along. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am acting on behalf of the parents and students of Western Australia, the teachers who work in our schools, the Catholic Education Commission, the independent schools and the State School Teachers’ Union of WA. Everybody has been working on the outcomes and standards framework. Everybody has been looking to improve the education system, but the member opposite chooses to talk down and deliberately destroy the education system because his friend, Peter Browne, is no longer there. That is appalling! Hon Barry House interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Everybody should distance themselves from you, sport! The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! I want to offer the opportunity to Hon Helen Morton, Hon Nigel Hallett and Hon Peter Collier to ask questions. I realise that some longer serving members will not be able to ask questions today. I will take that up with them later on!
Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! We are wasting the opportunity of question time if there is to be this level of interjection. Five members have indicated that they want to ask questions and they are being prevented by unnecessary interjections. Let us hear the minister conclude and we can move along. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am acting on behalf of the parents and students of Western Australia, the teachers who work in our schools, the Catholic Education Commission, the independent schools and the State School Teachers’ Union of WA. Everybody has been working on the outcomes and standards framework. Everybody has been looking to improve the education system, but the member opposite chooses to talk down and deliberately destroy the education system because his friend, Peter Browne, is no longer there. That is appalling! Hon Barry House interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Everybody should distance themselves from you, sport! The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! I want to offer the opportunity to Hon Helen Morton, Hon Nigel Hallett and Hon Peter Collier to ask questions. I realise that some longer serving members will not be able to ask questions today. I will take that up with them later on!
The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! We are wasting the opportunity of question time if there is to be this level of interjection. Five members have indicated that they want to ask questions and they are being prevented by unnecessary interjections. Let us hear the minister conclude and we can move along. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am acting on behalf of the parents and students of Western Australia, the teachers who work in our schools, the Catholic Education Commission, the independent schools and the State School Teachers’ Union of WA. Everybody has been working on the outcomes and standards framework. Everybody has been looking to improve the education system, but the member opposite chooses to talk down and deliberately destroy the education system because his friend, Peter Browne, is no longer there. That is appalling! Hon Barry House interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Everybody should distance themselves from you, sport! The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! I want to offer the opportunity to Hon Helen Morton, Hon Nigel Hallett and Hon Peter Collier to ask questions. I realise that some longer serving members will not be able to ask questions today. I will take that up with them later on!
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am acting on behalf of the parents and students of Western Australia, the teachers who work in our schools, the Catholic Education Commission, the independent schools and the State School Teachers’ Union of WA. Everybody has been working on the outcomes and standards framework. Everybody has been looking to improve the education system, but the member opposite chooses to talk down and deliberately destroy the education system because his friend, Peter Browne, is no longer there. That is appalling! Hon Barry House interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Everybody should distance themselves from you, sport! The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! I want to offer the opportunity to Hon Helen Morton, Hon Nigel Hallett and Hon Peter Collier to ask questions. I realise that some longer serving members will not be able to ask questions today. I will take that up with them later on!
Hon Barry House interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Everybody should distance themselves from you, sport! The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! I want to offer the opportunity to Hon Helen Morton, Hon Nigel Hallett and Hon Peter Collier to ask questions. I realise that some longer serving members will not be able to ask questions today. I will take that up with them later on!
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Everybody should distance themselves from you, sport! The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! I want to offer the opportunity to Hon Helen Morton, Hon Nigel Hallett and Hon Peter Collier to ask questions. I realise that some longer serving members will not be able to ask questions today. I will take that up with them later on!
The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! I want to offer the opportunity to Hon Helen Morton, Hon Nigel Hallett and Hon Peter Collier to ask questions. I realise that some longer serving members will not be able to ask questions today. I will take that up with them later on!
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: First of all, I have memories of that legislation going through in 1997 and creating the Curriculum Council. There is no doubt that I raised some issues as an opposition member would, as part of the debate. Since looking at what happens in classrooms and, although I have visited only 55 schools, I must have visited at least 100 classrooms - Hon Norman Moore : Is the minister saying that she has changed her mind? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am saying that I am very supportive of the outcomes and standards framework. The most telling thing in the last interchange between Hon Barry House and me in my response to his question was that he made the point that the whole thing is no good since Peter Browne is no longer in the department. The member thinks that the department has gone downhill and is no good because Peter Browne is no longer there. If anything reflected an absolute blight on the system and if anything reflected the member’s view that teachers are worthless and that the students are not worth fighting for and not worth working towards giving them the opportunities that they deserve, it is that. The member opposite is deliberately destructive because Peter Browne is no longer there. I am appalled. The member chooses to play party politics with education, as does his federal counterpart, Minister Nelson. I know Peter Browne; however - Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! We are wasting the opportunity of question time if there is to be this level of interjection. Five members have indicated that they want to ask questions and they are being prevented by unnecessary interjections. Let us hear the minister conclude and we can move along. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am acting on behalf of the parents and students of Western Australia, the teachers who work in our schools, the Catholic Education Commission, the independent schools and the State School Teachers’ Union of WA. Everybody has been working on the outcomes and standards framework. Everybody has been looking to improve the education system, but the member opposite chooses to talk down and deliberately destroy the education system because his friend, Peter Browne, is no longer there. That is appalling! Hon Barry House interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Everybody should distance themselves from you, sport! The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! I want to offer the opportunity to Hon Helen Morton, Hon Nigel Hallett and Hon Peter Collier to ask questions. I realise that some longer serving members will not be able to ask questions today. I will take that up with them later on!
First of all, I have memories of that legislation going through in 1997 and creating the Curriculum Council. There is no doubt that I raised some issues as an opposition member would, as part of the debate. Since looking at what happens in classrooms and, although I have visited only 55 schools, I must have visited at least 100 classrooms - Hon Norman Moore : Is the minister saying that she has changed her mind? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am saying that I am very supportive of the outcomes and standards framework. The most telling thing in the last interchange between Hon Barry House and me in my response to his question was that he made the point that the whole thing is no good since Peter Browne is no longer in the department. The member thinks that the department has gone downhill and is no good because Peter Browne is no longer there. If anything reflected an absolute blight on the system and if anything reflected the member’s view that teachers are worthless and that the students are not worth fighting for and not worth working towards giving them the opportunities that they deserve, it is that. The member opposite is deliberately destructive because Peter Browne is no longer there. I am appalled. The member chooses to play party politics with education, as does his federal counterpart, Minister Nelson. I know Peter Browne; however - Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! We are wasting the opportunity of question time if there is to be this level of interjection. Five members have indicated that they want to ask questions and they are being prevented by unnecessary interjections. Let us hear the minister conclude and we can move along. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am acting on behalf of the parents and students of Western Australia, the teachers who work in our schools, the Catholic Education Commission, the independent schools and the State School Teachers’ Union of WA. Everybody has been working on the outcomes and standards framework. Everybody has been looking to improve the education system, but the member opposite chooses to talk down and deliberately destroy the education system because his friend, Peter Browne, is no longer there. That is appalling! Hon Barry House interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Everybody should distance themselves from you, sport! The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! I want to offer the opportunity to Hon Helen Morton, Hon Nigel Hallett and Hon Peter Collier to ask questions. I realise that some longer serving members will not be able to ask questions today. I will take that up with them later on!
Hon Norman Moore : Is the minister saying that she has changed her mind? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am saying that I am very supportive of the outcomes and standards framework. The most telling thing in the last interchange between Hon Barry House and me in my response to his question was that he made the point that the whole thing is no good since Peter Browne is no longer in the department. The member thinks that the department has gone downhill and is no good because Peter Browne is no longer there. If anything reflected an absolute blight on the system and if anything reflected the member’s view that teachers are worthless and that the students are not worth fighting for and not worth working towards giving them the opportunities that they deserve, it is that. The member opposite is deliberately destructive because Peter Browne is no longer there. I am appalled. The member chooses to play party politics with education, as does his federal counterpart, Minister Nelson. I know Peter Browne; however - Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! We are wasting the opportunity of question time if there is to be this level of interjection. Five members have indicated that they want to ask questions and they are being prevented by unnecessary interjections. Let us hear the minister conclude and we can move along. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am acting on behalf of the parents and students of Western Australia, the teachers who work in our schools, the Catholic Education Commission, the independent schools and the State School Teachers’ Union of WA. Everybody has been working on the outcomes and standards framework. Everybody has been looking to improve the education system, but the member opposite chooses to talk down and deliberately destroy the education system because his friend, Peter Browne, is no longer there. That is appalling! Hon Barry House interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Everybody should distance themselves from you, sport! The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! I want to offer the opportunity to Hon Helen Morton, Hon Nigel Hallett and Hon Peter Collier to ask questions. I realise that some longer serving members will not be able to ask questions today. I will take that up with them later on!
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am saying that I am very supportive of the outcomes and standards framework. The most telling thing in the last interchange between Hon Barry House and me in my response to his question was that he made the point that the whole thing is no good since Peter Browne is no longer in the department. The member thinks that the department has gone downhill and is no good because Peter Browne is no longer there. If anything reflected an absolute blight on the system and if anything reflected the member’s view that teachers are worthless and that the students are not worth fighting for and not worth working towards giving them the opportunities that they deserve, it is that. The member opposite is deliberately destructive because Peter Browne is no longer there. I am appalled. The member chooses to play party politics with education, as does his federal counterpart, Minister Nelson. I know Peter Browne; however - Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! We are wasting the opportunity of question time if there is to be this level of interjection. Five members have indicated that they want to ask questions and they are being prevented by unnecessary interjections. Let us hear the minister conclude and we can move along. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am acting on behalf of the parents and students of Western Australia, the teachers who work in our schools, the Catholic Education Commission, the independent schools and the State School Teachers’ Union of WA. Everybody has been working on the outcomes and standards framework. Everybody has been looking to improve the education system, but the member opposite chooses to talk down and deliberately destroy the education system because his friend, Peter Browne, is no longer there. That is appalling! Hon Barry House interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Everybody should distance themselves from you, sport! The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! I want to offer the opportunity to Hon Helen Morton, Hon Nigel Hallett and Hon Peter Collier to ask questions. I realise that some longer serving members will not be able to ask questions today. I will take that up with them later on!
I know Peter Browne; however - Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! We are wasting the opportunity of question time if there is to be this level of interjection. Five members have indicated that they want to ask questions and they are being prevented by unnecessary interjections. Let us hear the minister conclude and we can move along. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am acting on behalf of the parents and students of Western Australia, the teachers who work in our schools, the Catholic Education Commission, the independent schools and the State School Teachers’ Union of WA. Everybody has been working on the outcomes and standards framework. Everybody has been looking to improve the education system, but the member opposite chooses to talk down and deliberately destroy the education system because his friend, Peter Browne, is no longer there. That is appalling! Hon Barry House interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Everybody should distance themselves from you, sport! The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! I want to offer the opportunity to Hon Helen Morton, Hon Nigel Hallett and Hon Peter Collier to ask questions. I realise that some longer serving members will not be able to ask questions today. I will take that up with them later on!
Several members interjected. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! We are wasting the opportunity of question time if there is to be this level of interjection. Five members have indicated that they want to ask questions and they are being prevented by unnecessary interjections. Let us hear the minister conclude and we can move along. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am acting on behalf of the parents and students of Western Australia, the teachers who work in our schools, the Catholic Education Commission, the independent schools and the State School Teachers’ Union of WA. Everybody has been working on the outcomes and standards framework. Everybody has been looking to improve the education system, but the member opposite chooses to talk down and deliberately destroy the education system because his friend, Peter Browne, is no longer there. That is appalling! Hon Barry House interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Everybody should distance themselves from you, sport! The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! I want to offer the opportunity to Hon Helen Morton, Hon Nigel Hallett and Hon Peter Collier to ask questions. I realise that some longer serving members will not be able to ask questions today. I will take that up with them later on!
The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! We are wasting the opportunity of question time if there is to be this level of interjection. Five members have indicated that they want to ask questions and they are being prevented by unnecessary interjections. Let us hear the minister conclude and we can move along. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am acting on behalf of the parents and students of Western Australia, the teachers who work in our schools, the Catholic Education Commission, the independent schools and the State School Teachers’ Union of WA. Everybody has been working on the outcomes and standards framework. Everybody has been looking to improve the education system, but the member opposite chooses to talk down and deliberately destroy the education system because his friend, Peter Browne, is no longer there. That is appalling! Hon Barry House interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Everybody should distance themselves from you, sport! The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! I want to offer the opportunity to Hon Helen Morton, Hon Nigel Hallett and Hon Peter Collier to ask questions. I realise that some longer serving members will not be able to ask questions today. I will take that up with them later on!
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am acting on behalf of the parents and students of Western Australia, the teachers who work in our schools, the Catholic Education Commission, the independent schools and the State School Teachers’ Union of WA. Everybody has been working on the outcomes and standards framework. Everybody has been looking to improve the education system, but the member opposite chooses to talk down and deliberately destroy the education system because his friend, Peter Browne, is no longer there. That is appalling! Hon Barry House interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Everybody should distance themselves from you, sport! The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! I want to offer the opportunity to Hon Helen Morton, Hon Nigel Hallett and Hon Peter Collier to ask questions. I realise that some longer serving members will not be able to ask questions today. I will take that up with them later on!
Hon Barry House interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Everybody should distance themselves from you, sport! The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! I want to offer the opportunity to Hon Helen Morton, Hon Nigel Hallett and Hon Peter Collier to ask questions. I realise that some longer serving members will not be able to ask questions today. I will take that up with them later on!
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Everybody should distance themselves from you, sport! The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! I want to offer the opportunity to Hon Helen Morton, Hon Nigel Hallett and Hon Peter Collier to ask questions. I realise that some longer serving members will not be able to ask questions today. I will take that up with them later on!
The DEPUTY PRESIDENT : Order, members! I want to offer the opportunity to Hon Helen Morton, Hon Nigel Hallett and Hon Peter Collier to ask questions. I realise that some longer serving members will not be able to ask questions today. I will take that up with them later on!
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