❓ Opposition questions the Premier regarding a potential misleading of Parliament by the Member for Rockingham concerning a meeting with lobbyist Noel Crichton-Browne. The Premier dismisses the issue as insignificant.
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MEMBER FOR ROCKINGHAM — MEETING WITH NOEL CRICHTON-BROWNE
With regard to the ministerial code of conduct, I refer the Premier to a meeting between the member for Rockingham and lobbyist Noel Crichton-Browne at the Blue Duck Cafe in 2001 and also to statements made in this place on 2 April 2008 by the member for Rockingham with respect to that meeting that “Mr Crichton-Browne wanted to pass on information about the members of the Liberal Party”. Given that yesterday the Minister for Education and Training acknowledged that he, not Mr Crichton-Browne, initiated the meeting and given that Mr Crichton-Browne has stated that he never gave any information of the sort described by the minister, despite the minister pleading for such information, can the Premier explain how the minister has not misled Parliament when he described the purpose of the meeting as Mr Crichton-Browne wanting to pass on information about members of the Liberal Party? Mr A.J. CARPENTER
With regard to the ministerial code of conduct, I refer the Premier to a meeting between the member for Rockingham and lobbyist Noel Crichton-Browne at the Blue Duck Cafe in 2001 and also to statements made in this place on 2 April 2008 by the member for Rockingham with respect to that meeting that “Mr Crichton-Browne wanted to pass on information about the members of the Liberal Party”. Given that yesterday the Minister for Education and Training acknowledged that he, not Mr Crichton-Browne, initiated the meeting and given that Mr Crichton-Browne has stated that he never gave any information of the sort described by the minister, despite the minister pleading for such information, can the Premier explain how the minister has not misled Parliament when he described the purpose of the meeting as Mr Crichton-Browne wanting to pass on information about members of the Liberal Party? Mr A.J. CARPENTER
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I thank the member for the question. I would have answered the other question on the basis that he was asserting a misleading of the house. Mr Speaker, is this matter much ado about nothing? Mr C.J. Barnett : If a member has misled this Parliament, it’s serious. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He clearly has not misled the Parliament. Dr K.D. Hames : He clearly has. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He clearly has not. Is anybody suggesting that Noel Crichton-Browne does not like to talk about the Liberal Party? Did the minister say that Noel Crichton-Browne had called the meeting? Mr J.H.D. Day : He certainly implied that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the minister say that Noel Crichton-Browne had called the meeting? Did he say that he had initiated the meeting? Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That is not the question I asked. I am getting used to disputation of events. Seven years ago former senator Noel Crichton-Browne and the member for Rockingham had a cup of coffee at the Blue Duck Cafe in Cottesloe. Mr J.E. McGrath : Whose shout was it? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know who paid for the coffee; I do not think it is relevant. As far as I understand it, the minister has never said that Noel Crichton-Browne asked for the meeting. He said that he wanted to talk about the Liberal Party. I think that is probably what he did want to talk about when he got to the meeting. I do not really think this is an issue. I am not sure whether the member for Murdoch is talking about how the ministerial code of conduct applied back then to his behaviour in 2001 or now. Mr C.C. Porter : What has occurred now. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is a misleading of the house. He does not have to worry about the ministerial code of conduct. Mr C.J. Barnett : So if you mislead the house, that’s fine. The SPEAKER : Member for Cottesloe! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : There is nothing in this. Nothing turns on it. If it suits people to suck up oxygen talking about this sort of rubbish, let them do it.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: I thank the member for the question. I would have answered the other question on the basis that he was asserting a misleading of the house. Mr Speaker, is this matter much ado about nothing? Mr C.J. Barnett : If a member has misled this Parliament, it’s serious. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He clearly has not misled the Parliament. Dr K.D. Hames : He clearly has. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He clearly has not. Is anybody suggesting that Noel Crichton-Browne does not like to talk about the Liberal Party? Did the minister say that Noel Crichton-Browne had called the meeting? Mr J.H.D. Day : He certainly implied that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the minister say that Noel Crichton-Browne had called the meeting? Did he say that he had initiated the meeting? Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That is not the question I asked. I am getting used to disputation of events. Seven years ago former senator Noel Crichton-Browne and the member for Rockingham had a cup of coffee at the Blue Duck Cafe in Cottesloe. Mr J.E. McGrath : Whose shout was it? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know who paid for the coffee; I do not think it is relevant. As far as I understand it, the minister has never said that Noel Crichton-Browne asked for the meeting. He said that he wanted to talk about the Liberal Party. I think that is probably what he did want to talk about when he got to the meeting. I do not really think this is an issue. I am not sure whether the member for Murdoch is talking about how the ministerial code of conduct applied back then to his behaviour in 2001 or now. Mr C.C. Porter : What has occurred now. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is a misleading of the house. He does not have to worry about the ministerial code of conduct. Mr C.J. Barnett : So if you mislead the house, that’s fine. The SPEAKER : Member for Cottesloe! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : There is nothing in this. Nothing turns on it. If it suits people to suck up oxygen talking about this sort of rubbish, let them do it.
I thank the member for the question. I would have answered the other question on the basis that he was asserting a misleading of the house. Mr Speaker, is this matter much ado about nothing? Mr C.J. Barnett : If a member has misled this Parliament, it’s serious. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He clearly has not misled the Parliament. Dr K.D. Hames : He clearly has. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He clearly has not. Is anybody suggesting that Noel Crichton-Browne does not like to talk about the Liberal Party? Did the minister say that Noel Crichton-Browne had called the meeting? Mr J.H.D. Day : He certainly implied that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the minister say that Noel Crichton-Browne had called the meeting? Did he say that he had initiated the meeting? Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That is not the question I asked. I am getting used to disputation of events. Seven years ago former senator Noel Crichton-Browne and the member for Rockingham had a cup of coffee at the Blue Duck Cafe in Cottesloe. Mr J.E. McGrath : Whose shout was it? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know who paid for the coffee; I do not think it is relevant. As far as I understand it, the minister has never said that Noel Crichton-Browne asked for the meeting. He said that he wanted to talk about the Liberal Party. I think that is probably what he did want to talk about when he got to the meeting. I do not really think this is an issue. I am not sure whether the member for Murdoch is talking about how the ministerial code of conduct applied back then to his behaviour in 2001 or now. Mr C.C. Porter : What has occurred now. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is a misleading of the house. He does not have to worry about the ministerial code of conduct. Mr C.J. Barnett : So if you mislead the house, that’s fine. The SPEAKER : Member for Cottesloe! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : There is nothing in this. Nothing turns on it. If it suits people to suck up oxygen talking about this sort of rubbish, let them do it.
Mr C.J. Barnett : If a member has misled this Parliament, it’s serious. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He clearly has not misled the Parliament. Dr K.D. Hames : He clearly has. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He clearly has not. Is anybody suggesting that Noel Crichton-Browne does not like to talk about the Liberal Party? Did the minister say that Noel Crichton-Browne had called the meeting? Mr J.H.D. Day : He certainly implied that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the minister say that Noel Crichton-Browne had called the meeting? Did he say that he had initiated the meeting? Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That is not the question I asked. I am getting used to disputation of events. Seven years ago former senator Noel Crichton-Browne and the member for Rockingham had a cup of coffee at the Blue Duck Cafe in Cottesloe. Mr J.E. McGrath : Whose shout was it? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know who paid for the coffee; I do not think it is relevant. As far as I understand it, the minister has never said that Noel Crichton-Browne asked for the meeting. He said that he wanted to talk about the Liberal Party. I think that is probably what he did want to talk about when he got to the meeting. I do not really think this is an issue. I am not sure whether the member for Murdoch is talking about how the ministerial code of conduct applied back then to his behaviour in 2001 or now. Mr C.C. Porter : What has occurred now. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is a misleading of the house. He does not have to worry about the ministerial code of conduct. Mr C.J. Barnett : So if you mislead the house, that’s fine. The SPEAKER : Member for Cottesloe! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : There is nothing in this. Nothing turns on it. If it suits people to suck up oxygen talking about this sort of rubbish, let them do it.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He clearly has not misled the Parliament. Dr K.D. Hames : He clearly has. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He clearly has not. Is anybody suggesting that Noel Crichton-Browne does not like to talk about the Liberal Party? Did the minister say that Noel Crichton-Browne had called the meeting? Mr J.H.D. Day : He certainly implied that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the minister say that Noel Crichton-Browne had called the meeting? Did he say that he had initiated the meeting? Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That is not the question I asked. I am getting used to disputation of events. Seven years ago former senator Noel Crichton-Browne and the member for Rockingham had a cup of coffee at the Blue Duck Cafe in Cottesloe. Mr J.E. McGrath : Whose shout was it? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know who paid for the coffee; I do not think it is relevant. As far as I understand it, the minister has never said that Noel Crichton-Browne asked for the meeting. He said that he wanted to talk about the Liberal Party. I think that is probably what he did want to talk about when he got to the meeting. I do not really think this is an issue. I am not sure whether the member for Murdoch is talking about how the ministerial code of conduct applied back then to his behaviour in 2001 or now. Mr C.C. Porter : What has occurred now. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is a misleading of the house. He does not have to worry about the ministerial code of conduct. Mr C.J. Barnett : So if you mislead the house, that’s fine. The SPEAKER : Member for Cottesloe! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : There is nothing in this. Nothing turns on it. If it suits people to suck up oxygen talking about this sort of rubbish, let them do it.
Dr K.D. Hames : He clearly has. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He clearly has not. Is anybody suggesting that Noel Crichton-Browne does not like to talk about the Liberal Party? Did the minister say that Noel Crichton-Browne had called the meeting? Mr J.H.D. Day : He certainly implied that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the minister say that Noel Crichton-Browne had called the meeting? Did he say that he had initiated the meeting? Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That is not the question I asked. I am getting used to disputation of events. Seven years ago former senator Noel Crichton-Browne and the member for Rockingham had a cup of coffee at the Blue Duck Cafe in Cottesloe. Mr J.E. McGrath : Whose shout was it? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know who paid for the coffee; I do not think it is relevant. As far as I understand it, the minister has never said that Noel Crichton-Browne asked for the meeting. He said that he wanted to talk about the Liberal Party. I think that is probably what he did want to talk about when he got to the meeting. I do not really think this is an issue. I am not sure whether the member for Murdoch is talking about how the ministerial code of conduct applied back then to his behaviour in 2001 or now. Mr C.C. Porter : What has occurred now. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is a misleading of the house. He does not have to worry about the ministerial code of conduct. Mr C.J. Barnett : So if you mislead the house, that’s fine. The SPEAKER : Member for Cottesloe! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : There is nothing in this. Nothing turns on it. If it suits people to suck up oxygen talking about this sort of rubbish, let them do it.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He clearly has not. Is anybody suggesting that Noel Crichton-Browne does not like to talk about the Liberal Party? Did the minister say that Noel Crichton-Browne had called the meeting? Mr J.H.D. Day : He certainly implied that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the minister say that Noel Crichton-Browne had called the meeting? Did he say that he had initiated the meeting? Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That is not the question I asked. I am getting used to disputation of events. Seven years ago former senator Noel Crichton-Browne and the member for Rockingham had a cup of coffee at the Blue Duck Cafe in Cottesloe. Mr J.E. McGrath : Whose shout was it? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know who paid for the coffee; I do not think it is relevant. As far as I understand it, the minister has never said that Noel Crichton-Browne asked for the meeting. He said that he wanted to talk about the Liberal Party. I think that is probably what he did want to talk about when he got to the meeting. I do not really think this is an issue. I am not sure whether the member for Murdoch is talking about how the ministerial code of conduct applied back then to his behaviour in 2001 or now. Mr C.C. Porter : What has occurred now. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is a misleading of the house. He does not have to worry about the ministerial code of conduct. Mr C.J. Barnett : So if you mislead the house, that’s fine. The SPEAKER : Member for Cottesloe! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : There is nothing in this. Nothing turns on it. If it suits people to suck up oxygen talking about this sort of rubbish, let them do it.
Mr J.H.D. Day : He certainly implied that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the minister say that Noel Crichton-Browne had called the meeting? Did he say that he had initiated the meeting? Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That is not the question I asked. I am getting used to disputation of events. Seven years ago former senator Noel Crichton-Browne and the member for Rockingham had a cup of coffee at the Blue Duck Cafe in Cottesloe. Mr J.E. McGrath : Whose shout was it? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know who paid for the coffee; I do not think it is relevant. As far as I understand it, the minister has never said that Noel Crichton-Browne asked for the meeting. He said that he wanted to talk about the Liberal Party. I think that is probably what he did want to talk about when he got to the meeting. I do not really think this is an issue. I am not sure whether the member for Murdoch is talking about how the ministerial code of conduct applied back then to his behaviour in 2001 or now. Mr C.C. Porter : What has occurred now. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is a misleading of the house. He does not have to worry about the ministerial code of conduct. Mr C.J. Barnett : So if you mislead the house, that’s fine. The SPEAKER : Member for Cottesloe! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : There is nothing in this. Nothing turns on it. If it suits people to suck up oxygen talking about this sort of rubbish, let them do it.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the minister say that Noel Crichton-Browne had called the meeting? Did he say that he had initiated the meeting? Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That is not the question I asked. I am getting used to disputation of events. Seven years ago former senator Noel Crichton-Browne and the member for Rockingham had a cup of coffee at the Blue Duck Cafe in Cottesloe. Mr J.E. McGrath : Whose shout was it? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know who paid for the coffee; I do not think it is relevant. As far as I understand it, the minister has never said that Noel Crichton-Browne asked for the meeting. He said that he wanted to talk about the Liberal Party. I think that is probably what he did want to talk about when he got to the meeting. I do not really think this is an issue. I am not sure whether the member for Murdoch is talking about how the ministerial code of conduct applied back then to his behaviour in 2001 or now. Mr C.C. Porter : What has occurred now. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is a misleading of the house. He does not have to worry about the ministerial code of conduct. Mr C.J. Barnett : So if you mislead the house, that’s fine. The SPEAKER : Member for Cottesloe! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : There is nothing in this. Nothing turns on it. If it suits people to suck up oxygen talking about this sort of rubbish, let them do it.
Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That is not the question I asked. I am getting used to disputation of events. Seven years ago former senator Noel Crichton-Browne and the member for Rockingham had a cup of coffee at the Blue Duck Cafe in Cottesloe. Mr J.E. McGrath : Whose shout was it? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know who paid for the coffee; I do not think it is relevant. As far as I understand it, the minister has never said that Noel Crichton-Browne asked for the meeting. He said that he wanted to talk about the Liberal Party. I think that is probably what he did want to talk about when he got to the meeting. I do not really think this is an issue. I am not sure whether the member for Murdoch is talking about how the ministerial code of conduct applied back then to his behaviour in 2001 or now. Mr C.C. Porter : What has occurred now. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is a misleading of the house. He does not have to worry about the ministerial code of conduct. Mr C.J. Barnett : So if you mislead the house, that’s fine. The SPEAKER : Member for Cottesloe! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : There is nothing in this. Nothing turns on it. If it suits people to suck up oxygen talking about this sort of rubbish, let them do it.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That is not the question I asked. I am getting used to disputation of events. Seven years ago former senator Noel Crichton-Browne and the member for Rockingham had a cup of coffee at the Blue Duck Cafe in Cottesloe. Mr J.E. McGrath : Whose shout was it? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know who paid for the coffee; I do not think it is relevant. As far as I understand it, the minister has never said that Noel Crichton-Browne asked for the meeting. He said that he wanted to talk about the Liberal Party. I think that is probably what he did want to talk about when he got to the meeting. I do not really think this is an issue. I am not sure whether the member for Murdoch is talking about how the ministerial code of conduct applied back then to his behaviour in 2001 or now. Mr C.C. Porter : What has occurred now. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is a misleading of the house. He does not have to worry about the ministerial code of conduct. Mr C.J. Barnett : So if you mislead the house, that’s fine. The SPEAKER : Member for Cottesloe! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : There is nothing in this. Nothing turns on it. If it suits people to suck up oxygen talking about this sort of rubbish, let them do it.
Mr J.E. McGrath : Whose shout was it? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know who paid for the coffee; I do not think it is relevant. As far as I understand it, the minister has never said that Noel Crichton-Browne asked for the meeting. He said that he wanted to talk about the Liberal Party. I think that is probably what he did want to talk about when he got to the meeting. I do not really think this is an issue. I am not sure whether the member for Murdoch is talking about how the ministerial code of conduct applied back then to his behaviour in 2001 or now. Mr C.C. Porter : What has occurred now. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is a misleading of the house. He does not have to worry about the ministerial code of conduct. Mr C.J. Barnett : So if you mislead the house, that’s fine. The SPEAKER : Member for Cottesloe! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : There is nothing in this. Nothing turns on it. If it suits people to suck up oxygen talking about this sort of rubbish, let them do it.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know who paid for the coffee; I do not think it is relevant. As far as I understand it, the minister has never said that Noel Crichton-Browne asked for the meeting. He said that he wanted to talk about the Liberal Party. I think that is probably what he did want to talk about when he got to the meeting. I do not really think this is an issue. I am not sure whether the member for Murdoch is talking about how the ministerial code of conduct applied back then to his behaviour in 2001 or now. Mr C.C. Porter : What has occurred now. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is a misleading of the house. He does not have to worry about the ministerial code of conduct. Mr C.J. Barnett : So if you mislead the house, that’s fine. The SPEAKER : Member for Cottesloe! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : There is nothing in this. Nothing turns on it. If it suits people to suck up oxygen talking about this sort of rubbish, let them do it.
Mr C.C. Porter : What has occurred now. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is a misleading of the house. He does not have to worry about the ministerial code of conduct. Mr C.J. Barnett : So if you mislead the house, that’s fine. The SPEAKER : Member for Cottesloe! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : There is nothing in this. Nothing turns on it. If it suits people to suck up oxygen talking about this sort of rubbish, let them do it.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is a misleading of the house. He does not have to worry about the ministerial code of conduct. Mr C.J. Barnett : So if you mislead the house, that’s fine. The SPEAKER : Member for Cottesloe! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : There is nothing in this. Nothing turns on it. If it suits people to suck up oxygen talking about this sort of rubbish, let them do it.
Mr C.J. Barnett : So if you mislead the house, that’s fine. The SPEAKER : Member for Cottesloe! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : There is nothing in this. Nothing turns on it. If it suits people to suck up oxygen talking about this sort of rubbish, let them do it.
The SPEAKER : Member for Cottesloe! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : There is nothing in this. Nothing turns on it. If it suits people to suck up oxygen talking about this sort of rubbish, let them do it.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : There is nothing in this. Nothing turns on it. If it suits people to suck up oxygen talking about this sort of rubbish, let them do it.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: I thank the member for the question. I would have answered the other question on the basis that he was asserting a misleading of the house. Mr Speaker, is this matter much ado about nothing? Mr C.J. Barnett : If a member has misled this Parliament, it’s serious. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He clearly has not misled the Parliament. Dr K.D. Hames : He clearly has. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He clearly has not. Is anybody suggesting that Noel Crichton-Browne does not like to talk about the Liberal Party? Did the minister say that Noel Crichton-Browne had called the meeting? Mr J.H.D. Day : He certainly implied that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the minister say that Noel Crichton-Browne had called the meeting? Did he say that he had initiated the meeting? Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That is not the question I asked. I am getting used to disputation of events. Seven years ago former senator Noel Crichton-Browne and the member for Rockingham had a cup of coffee at the Blue Duck Cafe in Cottesloe. Mr J.E. McGrath : Whose shout was it? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know who paid for the coffee; I do not think it is relevant. As far as I understand it, the minister has never said that Noel Crichton-Browne asked for the meeting. He said that he wanted to talk about the Liberal Party. I think that is probably what he did want to talk about when he got to the meeting. I do not really think this is an issue. I am not sure whether the member for Murdoch is talking about how the ministerial code of conduct applied back then to his behaviour in 2001 or now. Mr C.C. Porter : What has occurred now. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is a misleading of the house. He does not have to worry about the ministerial code of conduct. Mr C.J. Barnett : So if you mislead the house, that’s fine. The SPEAKER : Member for Cottesloe! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : There is nothing in this. Nothing turns on it. If it suits people to suck up oxygen talking about this sort of rubbish, let them do it.
I thank the member for the question. I would have answered the other question on the basis that he was asserting a misleading of the house. Mr Speaker, is this matter much ado about nothing? Mr C.J. Barnett : If a member has misled this Parliament, it’s serious. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He clearly has not misled the Parliament. Dr K.D. Hames : He clearly has. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He clearly has not. Is anybody suggesting that Noel Crichton-Browne does not like to talk about the Liberal Party? Did the minister say that Noel Crichton-Browne had called the meeting? Mr J.H.D. Day : He certainly implied that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the minister say that Noel Crichton-Browne had called the meeting? Did he say that he had initiated the meeting? Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That is not the question I asked. I am getting used to disputation of events. Seven years ago former senator Noel Crichton-Browne and the member for Rockingham had a cup of coffee at the Blue Duck Cafe in Cottesloe. Mr J.E. McGrath : Whose shout was it? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know who paid for the coffee; I do not think it is relevant. As far as I understand it, the minister has never said that Noel Crichton-Browne asked for the meeting. He said that he wanted to talk about the Liberal Party. I think that is probably what he did want to talk about when he got to the meeting. I do not really think this is an issue. I am not sure whether the member for Murdoch is talking about how the ministerial code of conduct applied back then to his behaviour in 2001 or now. Mr C.C. Porter : What has occurred now. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is a misleading of the house. He does not have to worry about the ministerial code of conduct. Mr C.J. Barnett : So if you mislead the house, that’s fine. The SPEAKER : Member for Cottesloe! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : There is nothing in this. Nothing turns on it. If it suits people to suck up oxygen talking about this sort of rubbish, let them do it.
Mr C.J. Barnett : If a member has misled this Parliament, it’s serious. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He clearly has not misled the Parliament. Dr K.D. Hames : He clearly has. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He clearly has not. Is anybody suggesting that Noel Crichton-Browne does not like to talk about the Liberal Party? Did the minister say that Noel Crichton-Browne had called the meeting? Mr J.H.D. Day : He certainly implied that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the minister say that Noel Crichton-Browne had called the meeting? Did he say that he had initiated the meeting? Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That is not the question I asked. I am getting used to disputation of events. Seven years ago former senator Noel Crichton-Browne and the member for Rockingham had a cup of coffee at the Blue Duck Cafe in Cottesloe. Mr J.E. McGrath : Whose shout was it? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know who paid for the coffee; I do not think it is relevant. As far as I understand it, the minister has never said that Noel Crichton-Browne asked for the meeting. He said that he wanted to talk about the Liberal Party. I think that is probably what he did want to talk about when he got to the meeting. I do not really think this is an issue. I am not sure whether the member for Murdoch is talking about how the ministerial code of conduct applied back then to his behaviour in 2001 or now. Mr C.C. Porter : What has occurred now. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is a misleading of the house. He does not have to worry about the ministerial code of conduct. Mr C.J. Barnett : So if you mislead the house, that’s fine. The SPEAKER : Member for Cottesloe! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : There is nothing in this. Nothing turns on it. If it suits people to suck up oxygen talking about this sort of rubbish, let them do it.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He clearly has not misled the Parliament. Dr K.D. Hames : He clearly has. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He clearly has not. Is anybody suggesting that Noel Crichton-Browne does not like to talk about the Liberal Party? Did the minister say that Noel Crichton-Browne had called the meeting? Mr J.H.D. Day : He certainly implied that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the minister say that Noel Crichton-Browne had called the meeting? Did he say that he had initiated the meeting? Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That is not the question I asked. I am getting used to disputation of events. Seven years ago former senator Noel Crichton-Browne and the member for Rockingham had a cup of coffee at the Blue Duck Cafe in Cottesloe. Mr J.E. McGrath : Whose shout was it? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know who paid for the coffee; I do not think it is relevant. As far as I understand it, the minister has never said that Noel Crichton-Browne asked for the meeting. He said that he wanted to talk about the Liberal Party. I think that is probably what he did want to talk about when he got to the meeting. I do not really think this is an issue. I am not sure whether the member for Murdoch is talking about how the ministerial code of conduct applied back then to his behaviour in 2001 or now. Mr C.C. Porter : What has occurred now. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is a misleading of the house. He does not have to worry about the ministerial code of conduct. Mr C.J. Barnett : So if you mislead the house, that’s fine. The SPEAKER : Member for Cottesloe! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : There is nothing in this. Nothing turns on it. If it suits people to suck up oxygen talking about this sort of rubbish, let them do it.
Dr K.D. Hames : He clearly has. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He clearly has not. Is anybody suggesting that Noel Crichton-Browne does not like to talk about the Liberal Party? Did the minister say that Noel Crichton-Browne had called the meeting? Mr J.H.D. Day : He certainly implied that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the minister say that Noel Crichton-Browne had called the meeting? Did he say that he had initiated the meeting? Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That is not the question I asked. I am getting used to disputation of events. Seven years ago former senator Noel Crichton-Browne and the member for Rockingham had a cup of coffee at the Blue Duck Cafe in Cottesloe. Mr J.E. McGrath : Whose shout was it? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know who paid for the coffee; I do not think it is relevant. As far as I understand it, the minister has never said that Noel Crichton-Browne asked for the meeting. He said that he wanted to talk about the Liberal Party. I think that is probably what he did want to talk about when he got to the meeting. I do not really think this is an issue. I am not sure whether the member for Murdoch is talking about how the ministerial code of conduct applied back then to his behaviour in 2001 or now. Mr C.C. Porter : What has occurred now. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is a misleading of the house. He does not have to worry about the ministerial code of conduct. Mr C.J. Barnett : So if you mislead the house, that’s fine. The SPEAKER : Member for Cottesloe! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : There is nothing in this. Nothing turns on it. If it suits people to suck up oxygen talking about this sort of rubbish, let them do it.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : He clearly has not. Is anybody suggesting that Noel Crichton-Browne does not like to talk about the Liberal Party? Did the minister say that Noel Crichton-Browne had called the meeting? Mr J.H.D. Day : He certainly implied that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the minister say that Noel Crichton-Browne had called the meeting? Did he say that he had initiated the meeting? Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That is not the question I asked. I am getting used to disputation of events. Seven years ago former senator Noel Crichton-Browne and the member for Rockingham had a cup of coffee at the Blue Duck Cafe in Cottesloe. Mr J.E. McGrath : Whose shout was it? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know who paid for the coffee; I do not think it is relevant. As far as I understand it, the minister has never said that Noel Crichton-Browne asked for the meeting. He said that he wanted to talk about the Liberal Party. I think that is probably what he did want to talk about when he got to the meeting. I do not really think this is an issue. I am not sure whether the member for Murdoch is talking about how the ministerial code of conduct applied back then to his behaviour in 2001 or now. Mr C.C. Porter : What has occurred now. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is a misleading of the house. He does not have to worry about the ministerial code of conduct. Mr C.J. Barnett : So if you mislead the house, that’s fine. The SPEAKER : Member for Cottesloe! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : There is nothing in this. Nothing turns on it. If it suits people to suck up oxygen talking about this sort of rubbish, let them do it.
Mr J.H.D. Day : He certainly implied that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the minister say that Noel Crichton-Browne had called the meeting? Did he say that he had initiated the meeting? Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That is not the question I asked. I am getting used to disputation of events. Seven years ago former senator Noel Crichton-Browne and the member for Rockingham had a cup of coffee at the Blue Duck Cafe in Cottesloe. Mr J.E. McGrath : Whose shout was it? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know who paid for the coffee; I do not think it is relevant. As far as I understand it, the minister has never said that Noel Crichton-Browne asked for the meeting. He said that he wanted to talk about the Liberal Party. I think that is probably what he did want to talk about when he got to the meeting. I do not really think this is an issue. I am not sure whether the member for Murdoch is talking about how the ministerial code of conduct applied back then to his behaviour in 2001 or now. Mr C.C. Porter : What has occurred now. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is a misleading of the house. He does not have to worry about the ministerial code of conduct. Mr C.J. Barnett : So if you mislead the house, that’s fine. The SPEAKER : Member for Cottesloe! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : There is nothing in this. Nothing turns on it. If it suits people to suck up oxygen talking about this sort of rubbish, let them do it.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Did the minister say that Noel Crichton-Browne had called the meeting? Did he say that he had initiated the meeting? Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That is not the question I asked. I am getting used to disputation of events. Seven years ago former senator Noel Crichton-Browne and the member for Rockingham had a cup of coffee at the Blue Duck Cafe in Cottesloe. Mr J.E. McGrath : Whose shout was it? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know who paid for the coffee; I do not think it is relevant. As far as I understand it, the minister has never said that Noel Crichton-Browne asked for the meeting. He said that he wanted to talk about the Liberal Party. I think that is probably what he did want to talk about when he got to the meeting. I do not really think this is an issue. I am not sure whether the member for Murdoch is talking about how the ministerial code of conduct applied back then to his behaviour in 2001 or now. Mr C.C. Porter : What has occurred now. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is a misleading of the house. He does not have to worry about the ministerial code of conduct. Mr C.J. Barnett : So if you mislead the house, that’s fine. The SPEAKER : Member for Cottesloe! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : There is nothing in this. Nothing turns on it. If it suits people to suck up oxygen talking about this sort of rubbish, let them do it.
Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That is not the question I asked. I am getting used to disputation of events. Seven years ago former senator Noel Crichton-Browne and the member for Rockingham had a cup of coffee at the Blue Duck Cafe in Cottesloe. Mr J.E. McGrath : Whose shout was it? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know who paid for the coffee; I do not think it is relevant. As far as I understand it, the minister has never said that Noel Crichton-Browne asked for the meeting. He said that he wanted to talk about the Liberal Party. I think that is probably what he did want to talk about when he got to the meeting. I do not really think this is an issue. I am not sure whether the member for Murdoch is talking about how the ministerial code of conduct applied back then to his behaviour in 2001 or now. Mr C.C. Porter : What has occurred now. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is a misleading of the house. He does not have to worry about the ministerial code of conduct. Mr C.J. Barnett : So if you mislead the house, that’s fine. The SPEAKER : Member for Cottesloe! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : There is nothing in this. Nothing turns on it. If it suits people to suck up oxygen talking about this sort of rubbish, let them do it.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : That is not the question I asked. I am getting used to disputation of events. Seven years ago former senator Noel Crichton-Browne and the member for Rockingham had a cup of coffee at the Blue Duck Cafe in Cottesloe. Mr J.E. McGrath : Whose shout was it? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know who paid for the coffee; I do not think it is relevant. As far as I understand it, the minister has never said that Noel Crichton-Browne asked for the meeting. He said that he wanted to talk about the Liberal Party. I think that is probably what he did want to talk about when he got to the meeting. I do not really think this is an issue. I am not sure whether the member for Murdoch is talking about how the ministerial code of conduct applied back then to his behaviour in 2001 or now. Mr C.C. Porter : What has occurred now. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is a misleading of the house. He does not have to worry about the ministerial code of conduct. Mr C.J. Barnett : So if you mislead the house, that’s fine. The SPEAKER : Member for Cottesloe! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : There is nothing in this. Nothing turns on it. If it suits people to suck up oxygen talking about this sort of rubbish, let them do it.
Mr J.E. McGrath : Whose shout was it? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know who paid for the coffee; I do not think it is relevant. As far as I understand it, the minister has never said that Noel Crichton-Browne asked for the meeting. He said that he wanted to talk about the Liberal Party. I think that is probably what he did want to talk about when he got to the meeting. I do not really think this is an issue. I am not sure whether the member for Murdoch is talking about how the ministerial code of conduct applied back then to his behaviour in 2001 or now. Mr C.C. Porter : What has occurred now. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is a misleading of the house. He does not have to worry about the ministerial code of conduct. Mr C.J. Barnett : So if you mislead the house, that’s fine. The SPEAKER : Member for Cottesloe! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : There is nothing in this. Nothing turns on it. If it suits people to suck up oxygen talking about this sort of rubbish, let them do it.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not know who paid for the coffee; I do not think it is relevant. As far as I understand it, the minister has never said that Noel Crichton-Browne asked for the meeting. He said that he wanted to talk about the Liberal Party. I think that is probably what he did want to talk about when he got to the meeting. I do not really think this is an issue. I am not sure whether the member for Murdoch is talking about how the ministerial code of conduct applied back then to his behaviour in 2001 or now. Mr C.C. Porter : What has occurred now. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is a misleading of the house. He does not have to worry about the ministerial code of conduct. Mr C.J. Barnett : So if you mislead the house, that’s fine. The SPEAKER : Member for Cottesloe! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : There is nothing in this. Nothing turns on it. If it suits people to suck up oxygen talking about this sort of rubbish, let them do it.
Mr C.C. Porter : What has occurred now. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is a misleading of the house. He does not have to worry about the ministerial code of conduct. Mr C.J. Barnett : So if you mislead the house, that’s fine. The SPEAKER : Member for Cottesloe! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : There is nothing in this. Nothing turns on it. If it suits people to suck up oxygen talking about this sort of rubbish, let them do it.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is a misleading of the house. He does not have to worry about the ministerial code of conduct. Mr C.J. Barnett : So if you mislead the house, that’s fine. The SPEAKER : Member for Cottesloe! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : There is nothing in this. Nothing turns on it. If it suits people to suck up oxygen talking about this sort of rubbish, let them do it.
Mr C.J. Barnett : So if you mislead the house, that’s fine. The SPEAKER : Member for Cottesloe! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : There is nothing in this. Nothing turns on it. If it suits people to suck up oxygen talking about this sort of rubbish, let them do it.
The SPEAKER : Member for Cottesloe! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : There is nothing in this. Nothing turns on it. If it suits people to suck up oxygen talking about this sort of rubbish, let them do it.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : There is nothing in this. Nothing turns on it. If it suits people to suck up oxygen talking about this sort of rubbish, let them do it.
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