❓ A parliamentary question regarding the removal of obstetric services from Kalamunda Health Service. The Minister defends the decision based on expert advice and a statewide health plan, accusing the opposition of political opportunism.
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I refer the minister to his unequivocal statement in this House on 4 March this year regarding the removal of obstetric services from the Kalamunda Health Service. The minister said - . . . it is my view that we should not press ahead with any priority in respect of Kalamunda while there is no consensus about what should be provided at that hospital. (1) Will the minister confirm that he has accepted the recommendation of the Reid report to remove obstetric and multi-day surgery services from the Kalamunda Health Service? (2) Is the minister aware that last weekend almost 2 000 people protested against the removal of these services; and, if so, does he admit that that is hardly a consensus? (3) Will he now admit that he never intended to listen to the community on this issue? (4) When does he intend to withdraw obstetric and multi-day surgery services from the Kalamunda Health Service? Mr J.A. McGINTY
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(1)-(4) There are two ways to run a health system on behalf of this State: firstly, the way in which it has traditionally been done, which involves a little bit of adhocery here and a little bit of political pressure there, and which also involves not having a coordinated global view about what ought to be done about health care. Dr G.I. Gallop: It is about who has the loudest voice. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Who has the loudest voice and who has the squeakiest wheel. That is the traditional way in which health care has been provided for in this State for a significant time. We can do that if that is what the Opposition wants us to do. However, the second way to run the health system of this State, which is a far more sensible way, is to have a plan that involves consultation with the experts and stakeholders in a way that can deliver real health outcomes for the benefit of the entire public. That is the choice we have. The member for Murdoch went to the hills and, in a populist flourish, promised all sorts of things to the people of Kalamunda to secure the position of his friend the member for Darling Range. That is exactly how we should not be planning for the delivery of health services in this State. If the Opposition wants to continue with a health system that is beset by crisis after crisis, it should continue doing it the Liberal way, which means having no thought about anything other than where it can gain a vote to achieve that end result. Frankly, the Government will not go down that path with the Opposition; the opposition can go down that path by itself. It is a discredited way of the past. For the first time the State has a visionary plan for the future of health care in this State. It will involve the rebuilding of our hospital system to deliver services to where people live, rather than reflecting a city-centric view based on central business district considerations. Cabinet has considered and endorsed that report. The Government has no intention of responding to individual pressure groups that say that this is inconsistent with the Government’s plan, and ask the Government to do it for them. How stupid can a person be? If people want to see the health system get together and start delivering real outcomes, they should get on board with a real coordinated plan. Pandering to every interest group and pressure group will mean never being able to deliver what the public wants from the health care system. Dr Harry Cohen has done a study that effectively said that, in the interests of the safety of the mothers and their children, obstetrics should be shifted from Kalamunda District Community Hospital to the bottom of the hill at Swan District Hospital. That is what the experts have said following a review of obstetric services. What do I do? Should I ignore that report, in the aftermath of everything that has happened at King Edward Memorial Hospital recently, and go along with the member for Darling Range, ignoring what the experts tell me about how to provide for safe delivery of babies in this State? I am on the side of the mothers and their babies, not that of members opposite. Consistent with the Reid vision for the future of health care in Western Australia, the Government has said three things to the people of Kalamunda. Firstly, land will be made available on the hospital site for general practitioners in Kalamunda who wish to establish a primary care medical centre so that the hospital can be upgraded. The Government has given a guarantee that that will be done. Secondly, it has said that the $5.5 million allocated to upgrading the Kalamunda District Community Hospital will remain in the budget and will be spent on upgrading the hospital. Thirdly, the Government has said, as the member for Darling Range correctly quoted me a few minutes ago, that it will not rush into this and do it tomorrow. Since the answer to that question came in, the Reid report has been released, and the picture for the people of Darling Range is no different from that for the people of Fremantle and every other area of the State. We now have a vision and we will stick to it.
(2) Is the minister aware that last weekend almost 2 000 people protested against the removal of these services; and, if so, does he admit that that is hardly a consensus? (3) Will he now admit that he never intended to listen to the community on this issue? (4) When does he intend to withdraw obstetric and multi-day surgery services from the Kalamunda Health Service? Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: (1)-(4) There are two ways to run a health system on behalf of this State: firstly, the way in which it has traditionally been done, which involves a little bit of adhocery here and a little bit of political pressure there, and which also involves not having a coordinated global view about what ought to be done about health care. Dr G.I. Gallop: It is about who has the loudest voice. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Who has the loudest voice and who has the squeakiest wheel. That is the traditional way in which health care has been provided for in this State for a significant time. We can do that if that is what the Opposition wants us to do. However, the second way to run the health system of this State, which is a far more sensible way, is to have a plan that involves consultation with the experts and stakeholders in a way that can deliver real health outcomes for the benefit of the entire public. That is the choice we have. The member for Murdoch went to the hills and, in a populist flourish, promised all sorts of things to the people of Kalamunda to secure the position of his friend the member for Darling Range. That is exactly how we should not be planning for the delivery of health services in this State. If the Opposition wants to continue with a health system that is beset by crisis after crisis, it should continue doing it the Liberal way, which means having no thought about anything other than where it can gain a vote to achieve that end result. Frankly, the Government will not go down that path with the Opposition; the opposition can go down that path by itself. It is a discredited way of the past. For the first time the State has a visionary plan for the future of health care in this State. It will involve the rebuilding of our hospital system to deliver services to where people live, rather than reflecting a city-centric view based on central business district considerations. Cabinet has considered and endorsed that report. The Government has no intention of responding to individual pressure groups that say that this is inconsistent with the Government’s plan, and ask the Government to do it for them. How stupid can a person be? If people want to see the health system get together and start delivering real outcomes, they should get on board with a real coordinated plan. Pandering to every interest group and pressure group will mean never being able to deliver what the public wants from the health care system. Dr Harry Cohen has done a study that effectively said that, in the interests of the safety of the mothers and their children, obstetrics should be shifted from Kalamunda District Community Hospital to the bottom of the hill at Swan District Hospital. That is what the experts have said following a review of obstetric services. What do I do? Should I ignore that report, in the aftermath of everything that has happened at King Edward Memorial Hospital recently, and go along with the member for Darling Range, ignoring what the experts tell me about how to provide for safe delivery of babies in this State? I am on the side of the mothers and their babies, not that of members opposite. Consistent with the Reid vision for the future of health care in Western Australia, the Government has said three things to the people of Kalamunda. Firstly, land will be made available on the hospital site for general practitioners in Kalamunda who wish to establish a primary care medical centre so that the hospital can be upgraded. The Government has given a guarantee that that will be done. Secondly, it has said that the $5.5 million allocated to upgrading the Kalamunda District Community Hospital will remain in the budget and will be spent on upgrading the hospital. Thirdly, the Government has said, as the member for Darling Range correctly quoted me a few minutes ago, that it will not rush into this and do it tomorrow. Since the answer to that question came in, the Reid report has been released, and the picture for the people of Darling Range is no different from that for the people of Fremantle and every other area of the State. We now have a vision and we will stick to it.
(3) Will he now admit that he never intended to listen to the community on this issue? (4) When does he intend to withdraw obstetric and multi-day surgery services from the Kalamunda Health Service? Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: (1)-(4) There are two ways to run a health system on behalf of this State: firstly, the way in which it has traditionally been done, which involves a little bit of adhocery here and a little bit of political pressure there, and which also involves not having a coordinated global view about what ought to be done about health care. Dr G.I. Gallop: It is about who has the loudest voice. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Who has the loudest voice and who has the squeakiest wheel. That is the traditional way in which health care has been provided for in this State for a significant time. We can do that if that is what the Opposition wants us to do. However, the second way to run the health system of this State, which is a far more sensible way, is to have a plan that involves consultation with the experts and stakeholders in a way that can deliver real health outcomes for the benefit of the entire public. That is the choice we have. The member for Murdoch went to the hills and, in a populist flourish, promised all sorts of things to the people of Kalamunda to secure the position of his friend the member for Darling Range. That is exactly how we should not be planning for the delivery of health services in this State. If the Opposition wants to continue with a health system that is beset by crisis after crisis, it should continue doing it the Liberal way, which means having no thought about anything other than where it can gain a vote to achieve that end result. Frankly, the Government will not go down that path with the Opposition; the opposition can go down that path by itself. It is a discredited way of the past. For the first time the State has a visionary plan for the future of health care in this State. It will involve the rebuilding of our hospital system to deliver services to where people live, rather than reflecting a city-centric view based on central business district considerations. Cabinet has considered and endorsed that report. The Government has no intention of responding to individual pressure groups that say that this is inconsistent with the Government’s plan, and ask the Government to do it for them. How stupid can a person be? If people want to see the health system get together and start delivering real outcomes, they should get on board with a real coordinated plan. Pandering to every interest group and pressure group will mean never being able to deliver what the public wants from the health care system. Dr Harry Cohen has done a study that effectively said that, in the interests of the safety of the mothers and their children, obstetrics should be shifted from Kalamunda District Community Hospital to the bottom of the hill at Swan District Hospital. That is what the experts have said following a review of obstetric services. What do I do? Should I ignore that report, in the aftermath of everything that has happened at King Edward Memorial Hospital recently, and go along with the member for Darling Range, ignoring what the experts tell me about how to provide for safe delivery of babies in this State? I am on the side of the mothers and their babies, not that of members opposite. Consistent with the Reid vision for the future of health care in Western Australia, the Government has said three things to the people of Kalamunda. Firstly, land will be made available on the hospital site for general practitioners in Kalamunda who wish to establish a primary care medical centre so that the hospital can be upgraded. The Government has given a guarantee that that will be done. Secondly, it has said that the $5.5 million allocated to upgrading the Kalamunda District Community Hospital will remain in the budget and will be spent on upgrading the hospital. Thirdly, the Government has said, as the member for Darling Range correctly quoted me a few minutes ago, that it will not rush into this and do it tomorrow. Since the answer to that question came in, the Reid report has been released, and the picture for the people of Darling Range is no different from that for the people of Fremantle and every other area of the State. We now have a vision and we will stick to it.
(4) When does he intend to withdraw obstetric and multi-day surgery services from the Kalamunda Health Service? Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: (1)-(4) There are two ways to run a health system on behalf of this State: firstly, the way in which it has traditionally been done, which involves a little bit of adhocery here and a little bit of political pressure there, and which also involves not having a coordinated global view about what ought to be done about health care. Dr G.I. Gallop: It is about who has the loudest voice. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Who has the loudest voice and who has the squeakiest wheel. That is the traditional way in which health care has been provided for in this State for a significant time. We can do that if that is what the Opposition wants us to do. However, the second way to run the health system of this State, which is a far more sensible way, is to have a plan that involves consultation with the experts and stakeholders in a way that can deliver real health outcomes for the benefit of the entire public. That is the choice we have. The member for Murdoch went to the hills and, in a populist flourish, promised all sorts of things to the people of Kalamunda to secure the position of his friend the member for Darling Range. That is exactly how we should not be planning for the delivery of health services in this State. If the Opposition wants to continue with a health system that is beset by crisis after crisis, it should continue doing it the Liberal way, which means having no thought about anything other than where it can gain a vote to achieve that end result. Frankly, the Government will not go down that path with the Opposition; the opposition can go down that path by itself. It is a discredited way of the past. For the first time the State has a visionary plan for the future of health care in this State. It will involve the rebuilding of our hospital system to deliver services to where people live, rather than reflecting a city-centric view based on central business district considerations. Cabinet has considered and endorsed that report. The Government has no intention of responding to individual pressure groups that say that this is inconsistent with the Government’s plan, and ask the Government to do it for them. How stupid can a person be? If people want to see the health system get together and start delivering real outcomes, they should get on board with a real coordinated plan. Pandering to every interest group and pressure group will mean never being able to deliver what the public wants from the health care system. Dr Harry Cohen has done a study that effectively said that, in the interests of the safety of the mothers and their children, obstetrics should be shifted from Kalamunda District Community Hospital to the bottom of the hill at Swan District Hospital. That is what the experts have said following a review of obstetric services. What do I do? Should I ignore that report, in the aftermath of everything that has happened at King Edward Memorial Hospital recently, and go along with the member for Darling Range, ignoring what the experts tell me about how to provide for safe delivery of babies in this State? I am on the side of the mothers and their babies, not that of members opposite. Consistent with the Reid vision for the future of health care in Western Australia, the Government has said three things to the people of Kalamunda. Firstly, land will be made available on the hospital site for general practitioners in Kalamunda who wish to establish a primary care medical centre so that the hospital can be upgraded. The Government has given a guarantee that that will be done. Secondly, it has said that the $5.5 million allocated to upgrading the Kalamunda District Community Hospital will remain in the budget and will be spent on upgrading the hospital. Thirdly, the Government has said, as the member for Darling Range correctly quoted me a few minutes ago, that it will not rush into this and do it tomorrow. Since the answer to that question came in, the Reid report has been released, and the picture for the people of Darling Range is no different from that for the people of Fremantle and every other area of the State. We now have a vision and we will stick to it.
Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: (1)-(4) There are two ways to run a health system on behalf of this State: firstly, the way in which it has traditionally been done, which involves a little bit of adhocery here and a little bit of political pressure there, and which also involves not having a coordinated global view about what ought to be done about health care. Dr G.I. Gallop: It is about who has the loudest voice. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Who has the loudest voice and who has the squeakiest wheel. That is the traditional way in which health care has been provided for in this State for a significant time. We can do that if that is what the Opposition wants us to do. However, the second way to run the health system of this State, which is a far more sensible way, is to have a plan that involves consultation with the experts and stakeholders in a way that can deliver real health outcomes for the benefit of the entire public. That is the choice we have. The member for Murdoch went to the hills and, in a populist flourish, promised all sorts of things to the people of Kalamunda to secure the position of his friend the member for Darling Range. That is exactly how we should not be planning for the delivery of health services in this State. If the Opposition wants to continue with a health system that is beset by crisis after crisis, it should continue doing it the Liberal way, which means having no thought about anything other than where it can gain a vote to achieve that end result. Frankly, the Government will not go down that path with the Opposition; the opposition can go down that path by itself. It is a discredited way of the past. For the first time the State has a visionary plan for the future of health care in this State. It will involve the rebuilding of our hospital system to deliver services to where people live, rather than reflecting a city-centric view based on central business district considerations. Cabinet has considered and endorsed that report. The Government has no intention of responding to individual pressure groups that say that this is inconsistent with the Government’s plan, and ask the Government to do it for them. How stupid can a person be? If people want to see the health system get together and start delivering real outcomes, they should get on board with a real coordinated plan. Pandering to every interest group and pressure group will mean never being able to deliver what the public wants from the health care system. Dr Harry Cohen has done a study that effectively said that, in the interests of the safety of the mothers and their children, obstetrics should be shifted from Kalamunda District Community Hospital to the bottom of the hill at Swan District Hospital. That is what the experts have said following a review of obstetric services. What do I do? Should I ignore that report, in the aftermath of everything that has happened at King Edward Memorial Hospital recently, and go along with the member for Darling Range, ignoring what the experts tell me about how to provide for safe delivery of babies in this State? I am on the side of the mothers and their babies, not that of members opposite. Consistent with the Reid vision for the future of health care in Western Australia, the Government has said three things to the people of Kalamunda. Firstly, land will be made available on the hospital site for general practitioners in Kalamunda who wish to establish a primary care medical centre so that the hospital can be upgraded. The Government has given a guarantee that that will be done. Secondly, it has said that the $5.5 million allocated to upgrading the Kalamunda District Community Hospital will remain in the budget and will be spent on upgrading the hospital. Thirdly, the Government has said, as the member for Darling Range correctly quoted me a few minutes ago, that it will not rush into this and do it tomorrow. Since the answer to that question came in, the Reid report has been released, and the picture for the people of Darling Range is no different from that for the people of Fremantle and every other area of the State. We now have a vision and we will stick to it.
(1)-(4) There are two ways to run a health system on behalf of this State: firstly, the way in which it has traditionally been done, which involves a little bit of adhocery here and a little bit of political pressure there, and which also involves not having a coordinated global view about what ought to be done about health care. Dr G.I. Gallop: It is about who has the loudest voice. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Who has the loudest voice and who has the squeakiest wheel. That is the traditional way in which health care has been provided for in this State for a significant time. We can do that if that is what the Opposition wants us to do. However, the second way to run the health system of this State, which is a far more sensible way, is to have a plan that involves consultation with the experts and stakeholders in a way that can deliver real health outcomes for the benefit of the entire public. That is the choice we have. The member for Murdoch went to the hills and, in a populist flourish, promised all sorts of things to the people of Kalamunda to secure the position of his friend the member for Darling Range. That is exactly how we should not be planning for the delivery of health services in this State. If the Opposition wants to continue with a health system that is beset by crisis after crisis, it should continue doing it the Liberal way, which means having no thought about anything other than where it can gain a vote to achieve that end result. Frankly, the Government will not go down that path with the Opposition; the opposition can go down that path by itself. It is a discredited way of the past. For the first time the State has a visionary plan for the future of health care in this State. It will involve the rebuilding of our hospital system to deliver services to where people live, rather than reflecting a city-centric view based on central business district considerations. Cabinet has considered and endorsed that report. The Government has no intention of responding to individual pressure groups that say that this is inconsistent with the Government’s plan, and ask the Government to do it for them. How stupid can a person be? If people want to see the health system get together and start delivering real outcomes, they should get on board with a real coordinated plan. Pandering to every interest group and pressure group will mean never being able to deliver what the public wants from the health care system. Dr Harry Cohen has done a study that effectively said that, in the interests of the safety of the mothers and their children, obstetrics should be shifted from Kalamunda District Community Hospital to the bottom of the hill at Swan District Hospital. That is what the experts have said following a review of obstetric services. What do I do? Should I ignore that report, in the aftermath of everything that has happened at King Edward Memorial Hospital recently, and go along with the member for Darling Range, ignoring what the experts tell me about how to provide for safe delivery of babies in this State? I am on the side of the mothers and their babies, not that of members opposite. Consistent with the Reid vision for the future of health care in Western Australia, the Government has said three things to the people of Kalamunda. Firstly, land will be made available on the hospital site for general practitioners in Kalamunda who wish to establish a primary care medical centre so that the hospital can be upgraded. The Government has given a guarantee that that will be done. Secondly, it has said that the $5.5 million allocated to upgrading the Kalamunda District Community Hospital will remain in the budget and will be spent on upgrading the hospital. Thirdly, the Government has said, as the member for Darling Range correctly quoted me a few minutes ago, that it will not rush into this and do it tomorrow. Since the answer to that question came in, the Reid report has been released, and the picture for the people of Darling Range is no different from that for the people of Fremantle and every other area of the State. We now have a vision and we will stick to it.
Dr G.I. Gallop: It is about who has the loudest voice. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Who has the loudest voice and who has the squeakiest wheel. That is the traditional way in which health care has been provided for in this State for a significant time. We can do that if that is what the Opposition wants us to do. However, the second way to run the health system of this State, which is a far more sensible way, is to have a plan that involves consultation with the experts and stakeholders in a way that can deliver real health outcomes for the benefit of the entire public. That is the choice we have. The member for Murdoch went to the hills and, in a populist flourish, promised all sorts of things to the people of Kalamunda to secure the position of his friend the member for Darling Range. That is exactly how we should not be planning for the delivery of health services in this State. If the Opposition wants to continue with a health system that is beset by crisis after crisis, it should continue doing it the Liberal way, which means having no thought about anything other than where it can gain a vote to achieve that end result. Frankly, the Government will not go down that path with the Opposition; the opposition can go down that path by itself. It is a discredited way of the past. For the first time the State has a visionary plan for the future of health care in this State. It will involve the rebuilding of our hospital system to deliver services to where people live, rather than reflecting a city-centric view based on central business district considerations. Cabinet has considered and endorsed that report. The Government has no intention of responding to individual pressure groups that say that this is inconsistent with the Government’s plan, and ask the Government to do it for them. How stupid can a person be? If people want to see the health system get together and start delivering real outcomes, they should get on board with a real coordinated plan. Pandering to every interest group and pressure group will mean never being able to deliver what the public wants from the health care system. Dr Harry Cohen has done a study that effectively said that, in the interests of the safety of the mothers and their children, obstetrics should be shifted from Kalamunda District Community Hospital to the bottom of the hill at Swan District Hospital. That is what the experts have said following a review of obstetric services. What do I do? Should I ignore that report, in the aftermath of everything that has happened at King Edward Memorial Hospital recently, and go along with the member for Darling Range, ignoring what the experts tell me about how to provide for safe delivery of babies in this State? I am on the side of the mothers and their babies, not that of members opposite. Consistent with the Reid vision for the future of health care in Western Australia, the Government has said three things to the people of Kalamunda. Firstly, land will be made available on the hospital site for general practitioners in Kalamunda who wish to establish a primary care medical centre so that the hospital can be upgraded. The Government has given a guarantee that that will be done. Secondly, it has said that the $5.5 million allocated to upgrading the Kalamunda District Community Hospital will remain in the budget and will be spent on upgrading the hospital. Thirdly, the Government has said, as the member for Darling Range correctly quoted me a few minutes ago, that it will not rush into this and do it tomorrow. Since the answer to that question came in, the Reid report has been released, and the picture for the people of Darling Range is no different from that for the people of Fremantle and every other area of the State. We now have a vision and we will stick to it.
Mr J.A. McGINTY: Who has the loudest voice and who has the squeakiest wheel. That is the traditional way in which health care has been provided for in this State for a significant time. We can do that if that is what the Opposition wants us to do. However, the second way to run the health system of this State, which is a far more sensible way, is to have a plan that involves consultation with the experts and stakeholders in a way that can deliver real health outcomes for the benefit of the entire public. That is the choice we have. The member for Murdoch went to the hills and, in a populist flourish, promised all sorts of things to the people of Kalamunda to secure the position of his friend the member for Darling Range. That is exactly how we should not be planning for the delivery of health services in this State. If the Opposition wants to continue with a health system that is beset by crisis after crisis, it should continue doing it the Liberal way, which means having no thought about anything other than where it can gain a vote to achieve that end result. Frankly, the Government will not go down that path with the Opposition; the opposition can go down that path by itself. It is a discredited way of the past. For the first time the State has a visionary plan for the future of health care in this State. It will involve the rebuilding of our hospital system to deliver services to where people live, rather than reflecting a city-centric view based on central business district considerations. Cabinet has considered and endorsed that report. The Government has no intention of responding to individual pressure groups that say that this is inconsistent with the Government’s plan, and ask the Government to do it for them. How stupid can a person be? If people want to see the health system get together and start delivering real outcomes, they should get on board with a real coordinated plan. Pandering to every interest group and pressure group will mean never being able to deliver what the public wants from the health care system. Dr Harry Cohen has done a study that effectively said that, in the interests of the safety of the mothers and their children, obstetrics should be shifted from Kalamunda District Community Hospital to the bottom of the hill at Swan District Hospital. That is what the experts have said following a review of obstetric services. What do I do? Should I ignore that report, in the aftermath of everything that has happened at King Edward Memorial Hospital recently, and go along with the member for Darling Range, ignoring what the experts tell me about how to provide for safe delivery of babies in this State? I am on the side of the mothers and their babies, not that of members opposite. Consistent with the Reid vision for the future of health care in Western Australia, the Government has said three things to the people of Kalamunda. Firstly, land will be made available on the hospital site for general practitioners in Kalamunda who wish to establish a primary care medical centre so that the hospital can be upgraded. The Government has given a guarantee that that will be done. Secondly, it has said that the $5.5 million allocated to upgrading the Kalamunda District Community Hospital will remain in the budget and will be spent on upgrading the hospital. Thirdly, the Government has said, as the member for Darling Range correctly quoted me a few minutes ago, that it will not rush into this and do it tomorrow. Since the answer to that question came in, the Reid report has been released, and the picture for the people of Darling Range is no different from that for the people of Fremantle and every other area of the State. We now have a vision and we will stick to it.
The Government has no intention of responding to individual pressure groups that say that this is inconsistent with the Government’s plan, and ask the Government to do it for them. How stupid can a person be? If people want to see the health system get together and start delivering real outcomes, they should get on board with a real coordinated plan. Pandering to every interest group and pressure group will mean never being able to deliver what the public wants from the health care system. Dr Harry Cohen has done a study that effectively said that, in the interests of the safety of the mothers and their children, obstetrics should be shifted from Kalamunda District Community Hospital to the bottom of the hill at Swan District Hospital. That is what the experts have said following a review of obstetric services. What do I do? Should I ignore that report, in the aftermath of everything that has happened at King Edward Memorial Hospital recently, and go along with the member for Darling Range, ignoring what the experts tell me about how to provide for safe delivery of babies in this State? I am on the side of the mothers and their babies, not that of members opposite. Consistent with the Reid vision for the future of health care in Western Australia, the Government has said three things to the people of Kalamunda. Firstly, land will be made available on the hospital site for general practitioners in Kalamunda who wish to establish a primary care medical centre so that the hospital can be upgraded. The Government has given a guarantee that that will be done. Secondly, it has said that the $5.5 million allocated to upgrading the Kalamunda District Community Hospital will remain in the budget and will be spent on upgrading the hospital. Thirdly, the Government has said, as the member for Darling Range correctly quoted me a few minutes ago, that it will not rush into this and do it tomorrow. Since the answer to that question came in, the Reid report has been released, and the picture for the people of Darling Range is no different from that for the people of Fremantle and every other area of the State. We now have a vision and we will stick to it.
Consistent with the Reid vision for the future of health care in Western Australia, the Government has said three things to the people of Kalamunda. Firstly, land will be made available on the hospital site for general practitioners in Kalamunda who wish to establish a primary care medical centre so that the hospital can be upgraded. The Government has given a guarantee that that will be done. Secondly, it has said that the $5.5 million allocated to upgrading the Kalamunda District Community Hospital will remain in the budget and will be spent on upgrading the hospital. Thirdly, the Government has said, as the member for Darling Range correctly quoted me a few minutes ago, that it will not rush into this and do it tomorrow. Since the answer to that question came in, the Reid report has been released, and the picture for the people of Darling Range is no different from that for the people of Fremantle and every other area of the State. We now have a vision and we will stick to it.
(2) Is the minister aware that last weekend almost 2 000 people protested against the removal of these services; and, if so, does he admit that that is hardly a consensus? (3) Will he now admit that he never intended to listen to the community on this issue? (4) When does he intend to withdraw obstetric and multi-day surgery services from the Kalamunda Health Service? Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: (1)-(4) There are two ways to run a health system on behalf of this State: firstly, the way in which it has traditionally been done, which involves a little bit of adhocery here and a little bit of political pressure there, and which also involves not having a coordinated global view about what ought to be done about health care. Dr G.I. Gallop: It is about who has the loudest voice. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Who has the loudest voice and who has the squeakiest wheel. That is the traditional way in which health care has been provided for in this State for a significant time. We can do that if that is what the Opposition wants us to do. However, the second way to run the health system of this State, which is a far more sensible way, is to have a plan that involves consultation with the experts and stakeholders in a way that can deliver real health outcomes for the benefit of the entire public. That is the choice we have. The member for Murdoch went to the hills and, in a populist flourish, promised all sorts of things to the people of Kalamunda to secure the position of his friend the member for Darling Range. That is exactly how we should not be planning for the delivery of health services in this State. If the Opposition wants to continue with a health system that is beset by crisis after crisis, it should continue doing it the Liberal way, which means having no thought about anything other than where it can gain a vote to achieve that end result. Frankly, the Government will not go down that path with the Opposition; the opposition can go down that path by itself. It is a discredited way of the past. For the first time the State has a visionary plan for the future of health care in this State. It will involve the rebuilding of our hospital system to deliver services to where people live, rather than reflecting a city-centric view based on central business district considerations. Cabinet has considered and endorsed that report. The Government has no intention of responding to individual pressure groups that say that this is inconsistent with the Government’s plan, and ask the Government to do it for them. How stupid can a person be? If people want to see the health system get together and start delivering real outcomes, they should get on board with a real coordinated plan. Pandering to every interest group and pressure group will mean never being able to deliver what the public wants from the health care system. Dr Harry Cohen has done a study that effectively said that, in the interests of the safety of the mothers and their children, obstetrics should be shifted from Kalamunda District Community Hospital to the bottom of the hill at Swan District Hospital. That is what the experts have said following a review of obstetric services. What do I do? Should I ignore that report, in the aftermath of everything that has happened at King Edward Memorial Hospital recently, and go along with the member for Darling Range, ignoring what the experts tell me about how to provide for safe delivery of babies in this State? I am on the side of the mothers and their babies, not that of members opposite. Consistent with the Reid vision for the future of health care in Western Australia, the Government has said three things to the people of Kalamunda. Firstly, land will be made available on the hospital site for general practitioners in Kalamunda who wish to establish a primary care medical centre so that the hospital can be upgraded. The Government has given a guarantee that that will be done. Secondly, it has said that the $5.5 million allocated to upgrading the Kalamunda District Community Hospital will remain in the budget and will be spent on upgrading the hospital. Thirdly, the Government has said, as the member for Darling Range correctly quoted me a few minutes ago, that it will not rush into this and do it tomorrow. Since the answer to that question came in, the Reid report has been released, and the picture for the people of Darling Range is no different from that for the people of Fremantle and every other area of the State. We now have a vision and we will stick to it.
(3) Will he now admit that he never intended to listen to the community on this issue? (4) When does he intend to withdraw obstetric and multi-day surgery services from the Kalamunda Health Service? Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: (1)-(4) There are two ways to run a health system on behalf of this State: firstly, the way in which it has traditionally been done, which involves a little bit of adhocery here and a little bit of political pressure there, and which also involves not having a coordinated global view about what ought to be done about health care. Dr G.I. Gallop: It is about who has the loudest voice. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Who has the loudest voice and who has the squeakiest wheel. That is the traditional way in which health care has been provided for in this State for a significant time. We can do that if that is what the Opposition wants us to do. However, the second way to run the health system of this State, which is a far more sensible way, is to have a plan that involves consultation with the experts and stakeholders in a way that can deliver real health outcomes for the benefit of the entire public. That is the choice we have. The member for Murdoch went to the hills and, in a populist flourish, promised all sorts of things to the people of Kalamunda to secure the position of his friend the member for Darling Range. That is exactly how we should not be planning for the delivery of health services in this State. If the Opposition wants to continue with a health system that is beset by crisis after crisis, it should continue doing it the Liberal way, which means having no thought about anything other than where it can gain a vote to achieve that end result. Frankly, the Government will not go down that path with the Opposition; the opposition can go down that path by itself. It is a discredited way of the past. For the first time the State has a visionary plan for the future of health care in this State. It will involve the rebuilding of our hospital system to deliver services to where people live, rather than reflecting a city-centric view based on central business district considerations. Cabinet has considered and endorsed that report. The Government has no intention of responding to individual pressure groups that say that this is inconsistent with the Government’s plan, and ask the Government to do it for them. How stupid can a person be? If people want to see the health system get together and start delivering real outcomes, they should get on board with a real coordinated plan. Pandering to every interest group and pressure group will mean never being able to deliver what the public wants from the health care system. Dr Harry Cohen has done a study that effectively said that, in the interests of the safety of the mothers and their children, obstetrics should be shifted from Kalamunda District Community Hospital to the bottom of the hill at Swan District Hospital. That is what the experts have said following a review of obstetric services. What do I do? Should I ignore that report, in the aftermath of everything that has happened at King Edward Memorial Hospital recently, and go along with the member for Darling Range, ignoring what the experts tell me about how to provide for safe delivery of babies in this State? I am on the side of the mothers and their babies, not that of members opposite. Consistent with the Reid vision for the future of health care in Western Australia, the Government has said three things to the people of Kalamunda. Firstly, land will be made available on the hospital site for general practitioners in Kalamunda who wish to establish a primary care medical centre so that the hospital can be upgraded. The Government has given a guarantee that that will be done. Secondly, it has said that the $5.5 million allocated to upgrading the Kalamunda District Community Hospital will remain in the budget and will be spent on upgrading the hospital. Thirdly, the Government has said, as the member for Darling Range correctly quoted me a few minutes ago, that it will not rush into this and do it tomorrow. Since the answer to that question came in, the Reid report has been released, and the picture for the people of Darling Range is no different from that for the people of Fremantle and every other area of the State. We now have a vision and we will stick to it.
(4) When does he intend to withdraw obstetric and multi-day surgery services from the Kalamunda Health Service? Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: (1)-(4) There are two ways to run a health system on behalf of this State: firstly, the way in which it has traditionally been done, which involves a little bit of adhocery here and a little bit of political pressure there, and which also involves not having a coordinated global view about what ought to be done about health care. Dr G.I. Gallop: It is about who has the loudest voice. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Who has the loudest voice and who has the squeakiest wheel. That is the traditional way in which health care has been provided for in this State for a significant time. We can do that if that is what the Opposition wants us to do. However, the second way to run the health system of this State, which is a far more sensible way, is to have a plan that involves consultation with the experts and stakeholders in a way that can deliver real health outcomes for the benefit of the entire public. That is the choice we have. The member for Murdoch went to the hills and, in a populist flourish, promised all sorts of things to the people of Kalamunda to secure the position of his friend the member for Darling Range. That is exactly how we should not be planning for the delivery of health services in this State. If the Opposition wants to continue with a health system that is beset by crisis after crisis, it should continue doing it the Liberal way, which means having no thought about anything other than where it can gain a vote to achieve that end result. Frankly, the Government will not go down that path with the Opposition; the opposition can go down that path by itself. It is a discredited way of the past. For the first time the State has a visionary plan for the future of health care in this State. It will involve the rebuilding of our hospital system to deliver services to where people live, rather than reflecting a city-centric view based on central business district considerations. Cabinet has considered and endorsed that report. The Government has no intention of responding to individual pressure groups that say that this is inconsistent with the Government’s plan, and ask the Government to do it for them. How stupid can a person be? If people want to see the health system get together and start delivering real outcomes, they should get on board with a real coordinated plan. Pandering to every interest group and pressure group will mean never being able to deliver what the public wants from the health care system. Dr Harry Cohen has done a study that effectively said that, in the interests of the safety of the mothers and their children, obstetrics should be shifted from Kalamunda District Community Hospital to the bottom of the hill at Swan District Hospital. That is what the experts have said following a review of obstetric services. What do I do? Should I ignore that report, in the aftermath of everything that has happened at King Edward Memorial Hospital recently, and go along with the member for Darling Range, ignoring what the experts tell me about how to provide for safe delivery of babies in this State? I am on the side of the mothers and their babies, not that of members opposite. Consistent with the Reid vision for the future of health care in Western Australia, the Government has said three things to the people of Kalamunda. Firstly, land will be made available on the hospital site for general practitioners in Kalamunda who wish to establish a primary care medical centre so that the hospital can be upgraded. The Government has given a guarantee that that will be done. Secondly, it has said that the $5.5 million allocated to upgrading the Kalamunda District Community Hospital will remain in the budget and will be spent on upgrading the hospital. Thirdly, the Government has said, as the member for Darling Range correctly quoted me a few minutes ago, that it will not rush into this and do it tomorrow. Since the answer to that question came in, the Reid report has been released, and the picture for the people of Darling Range is no different from that for the people of Fremantle and every other area of the State. We now have a vision and we will stick to it.
Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: (1)-(4) There are two ways to run a health system on behalf of this State: firstly, the way in which it has traditionally been done, which involves a little bit of adhocery here and a little bit of political pressure there, and which also involves not having a coordinated global view about what ought to be done about health care. Dr G.I. Gallop: It is about who has the loudest voice. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Who has the loudest voice and who has the squeakiest wheel. That is the traditional way in which health care has been provided for in this State for a significant time. We can do that if that is what the Opposition wants us to do. However, the second way to run the health system of this State, which is a far more sensible way, is to have a plan that involves consultation with the experts and stakeholders in a way that can deliver real health outcomes for the benefit of the entire public. That is the choice we have. The member for Murdoch went to the hills and, in a populist flourish, promised all sorts of things to the people of Kalamunda to secure the position of his friend the member for Darling Range. That is exactly how we should not be planning for the delivery of health services in this State. If the Opposition wants to continue with a health system that is beset by crisis after crisis, it should continue doing it the Liberal way, which means having no thought about anything other than where it can gain a vote to achieve that end result. Frankly, the Government will not go down that path with the Opposition; the opposition can go down that path by itself. It is a discredited way of the past. For the first time the State has a visionary plan for the future of health care in this State. It will involve the rebuilding of our hospital system to deliver services to where people live, rather than reflecting a city-centric view based on central business district considerations. Cabinet has considered and endorsed that report. The Government has no intention of responding to individual pressure groups that say that this is inconsistent with the Government’s plan, and ask the Government to do it for them. How stupid can a person be? If people want to see the health system get together and start delivering real outcomes, they should get on board with a real coordinated plan. Pandering to every interest group and pressure group will mean never being able to deliver what the public wants from the health care system. Dr Harry Cohen has done a study that effectively said that, in the interests of the safety of the mothers and their children, obstetrics should be shifted from Kalamunda District Community Hospital to the bottom of the hill at Swan District Hospital. That is what the experts have said following a review of obstetric services. What do I do? Should I ignore that report, in the aftermath of everything that has happened at King Edward Memorial Hospital recently, and go along with the member for Darling Range, ignoring what the experts tell me about how to provide for safe delivery of babies in this State? I am on the side of the mothers and their babies, not that of members opposite. Consistent with the Reid vision for the future of health care in Western Australia, the Government has said three things to the people of Kalamunda. Firstly, land will be made available on the hospital site for general practitioners in Kalamunda who wish to establish a primary care medical centre so that the hospital can be upgraded. The Government has given a guarantee that that will be done. Secondly, it has said that the $5.5 million allocated to upgrading the Kalamunda District Community Hospital will remain in the budget and will be spent on upgrading the hospital. Thirdly, the Government has said, as the member for Darling Range correctly quoted me a few minutes ago, that it will not rush into this and do it tomorrow. Since the answer to that question came in, the Reid report has been released, and the picture for the people of Darling Range is no different from that for the people of Fremantle and every other area of the State. We now have a vision and we will stick to it.
(1)-(4) There are two ways to run a health system on behalf of this State: firstly, the way in which it has traditionally been done, which involves a little bit of adhocery here and a little bit of political pressure there, and which also involves not having a coordinated global view about what ought to be done about health care. Dr G.I. Gallop: It is about who has the loudest voice. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Who has the loudest voice and who has the squeakiest wheel. That is the traditional way in which health care has been provided for in this State for a significant time. We can do that if that is what the Opposition wants us to do. However, the second way to run the health system of this State, which is a far more sensible way, is to have a plan that involves consultation with the experts and stakeholders in a way that can deliver real health outcomes for the benefit of the entire public. That is the choice we have. The member for Murdoch went to the hills and, in a populist flourish, promised all sorts of things to the people of Kalamunda to secure the position of his friend the member for Darling Range. That is exactly how we should not be planning for the delivery of health services in this State. If the Opposition wants to continue with a health system that is beset by crisis after crisis, it should continue doing it the Liberal way, which means having no thought about anything other than where it can gain a vote to achieve that end result. Frankly, the Government will not go down that path with the Opposition; the opposition can go down that path by itself. It is a discredited way of the past. For the first time the State has a visionary plan for the future of health care in this State. It will involve the rebuilding of our hospital system to deliver services to where people live, rather than reflecting a city-centric view based on central business district considerations. Cabinet has considered and endorsed that report. The Government has no intention of responding to individual pressure groups that say that this is inconsistent with the Government’s plan, and ask the Government to do it for them. How stupid can a person be? If people want to see the health system get together and start delivering real outcomes, they should get on board with a real coordinated plan. Pandering to every interest group and pressure group will mean never being able to deliver what the public wants from the health care system. Dr Harry Cohen has done a study that effectively said that, in the interests of the safety of the mothers and their children, obstetrics should be shifted from Kalamunda District Community Hospital to the bottom of the hill at Swan District Hospital. That is what the experts have said following a review of obstetric services. What do I do? Should I ignore that report, in the aftermath of everything that has happened at King Edward Memorial Hospital recently, and go along with the member for Darling Range, ignoring what the experts tell me about how to provide for safe delivery of babies in this State? I am on the side of the mothers and their babies, not that of members opposite. Consistent with the Reid vision for the future of health care in Western Australia, the Government has said three things to the people of Kalamunda. Firstly, land will be made available on the hospital site for general practitioners in Kalamunda who wish to establish a primary care medical centre so that the hospital can be upgraded. The Government has given a guarantee that that will be done. Secondly, it has said that the $5.5 million allocated to upgrading the Kalamunda District Community Hospital will remain in the budget and will be spent on upgrading the hospital. Thirdly, the Government has said, as the member for Darling Range correctly quoted me a few minutes ago, that it will not rush into this and do it tomorrow. Since the answer to that question came in, the Reid report has been released, and the picture for the people of Darling Range is no different from that for the people of Fremantle and every other area of the State. We now have a vision and we will stick to it.
Dr G.I. Gallop: It is about who has the loudest voice. Mr J.A. McGINTY: Who has the loudest voice and who has the squeakiest wheel. That is the traditional way in which health care has been provided for in this State for a significant time. We can do that if that is what the Opposition wants us to do. However, the second way to run the health system of this State, which is a far more sensible way, is to have a plan that involves consultation with the experts and stakeholders in a way that can deliver real health outcomes for the benefit of the entire public. That is the choice we have. The member for Murdoch went to the hills and, in a populist flourish, promised all sorts of things to the people of Kalamunda to secure the position of his friend the member for Darling Range. That is exactly how we should not be planning for the delivery of health services in this State. If the Opposition wants to continue with a health system that is beset by crisis after crisis, it should continue doing it the Liberal way, which means having no thought about anything other than where it can gain a vote to achieve that end result. Frankly, the Government will not go down that path with the Opposition; the opposition can go down that path by itself. It is a discredited way of the past. For the first time the State has a visionary plan for the future of health care in this State. It will involve the rebuilding of our hospital system to deliver services to where people live, rather than reflecting a city-centric view based on central business district considerations. Cabinet has considered and endorsed that report. The Government has no intention of responding to individual pressure groups that say that this is inconsistent with the Government’s plan, and ask the Government to do it for them. How stupid can a person be? If people want to see the health system get together and start delivering real outcomes, they should get on board with a real coordinated plan. Pandering to every interest group and pressure group will mean never being able to deliver what the public wants from the health care system. Dr Harry Cohen has done a study that effectively said that, in the interests of the safety of the mothers and their children, obstetrics should be shifted from Kalamunda District Community Hospital to the bottom of the hill at Swan District Hospital. That is what the experts have said following a review of obstetric services. What do I do? Should I ignore that report, in the aftermath of everything that has happened at King Edward Memorial Hospital recently, and go along with the member for Darling Range, ignoring what the experts tell me about how to provide for safe delivery of babies in this State? I am on the side of the mothers and their babies, not that of members opposite. Consistent with the Reid vision for the future of health care in Western Australia, the Government has said three things to the people of Kalamunda. Firstly, land will be made available on the hospital site for general practitioners in Kalamunda who wish to establish a primary care medical centre so that the hospital can be upgraded. The Government has given a guarantee that that will be done. Secondly, it has said that the $5.5 million allocated to upgrading the Kalamunda District Community Hospital will remain in the budget and will be spent on upgrading the hospital. Thirdly, the Government has said, as the member for Darling Range correctly quoted me a few minutes ago, that it will not rush into this and do it tomorrow. Since the answer to that question came in, the Reid report has been released, and the picture for the people of Darling Range is no different from that for the people of Fremantle and every other area of the State. We now have a vision and we will stick to it.
Mr J.A. McGINTY: Who has the loudest voice and who has the squeakiest wheel. That is the traditional way in which health care has been provided for in this State for a significant time. We can do that if that is what the Opposition wants us to do. However, the second way to run the health system of this State, which is a far more sensible way, is to have a plan that involves consultation with the experts and stakeholders in a way that can deliver real health outcomes for the benefit of the entire public. That is the choice we have. The member for Murdoch went to the hills and, in a populist flourish, promised all sorts of things to the people of Kalamunda to secure the position of his friend the member for Darling Range. That is exactly how we should not be planning for the delivery of health services in this State. If the Opposition wants to continue with a health system that is beset by crisis after crisis, it should continue doing it the Liberal way, which means having no thought about anything other than where it can gain a vote to achieve that end result. Frankly, the Government will not go down that path with the Opposition; the opposition can go down that path by itself. It is a discredited way of the past. For the first time the State has a visionary plan for the future of health care in this State. It will involve the rebuilding of our hospital system to deliver services to where people live, rather than reflecting a city-centric view based on central business district considerations. Cabinet has considered and endorsed that report. The Government has no intention of responding to individual pressure groups that say that this is inconsistent with the Government’s plan, and ask the Government to do it for them. How stupid can a person be? If people want to see the health system get together and start delivering real outcomes, they should get on board with a real coordinated plan. Pandering to every interest group and pressure group will mean never being able to deliver what the public wants from the health care system. Dr Harry Cohen has done a study that effectively said that, in the interests of the safety of the mothers and their children, obstetrics should be shifted from Kalamunda District Community Hospital to the bottom of the hill at Swan District Hospital. That is what the experts have said following a review of obstetric services. What do I do? Should I ignore that report, in the aftermath of everything that has happened at King Edward Memorial Hospital recently, and go along with the member for Darling Range, ignoring what the experts tell me about how to provide for safe delivery of babies in this State? I am on the side of the mothers and their babies, not that of members opposite. Consistent with the Reid vision for the future of health care in Western Australia, the Government has said three things to the people of Kalamunda. Firstly, land will be made available on the hospital site for general practitioners in Kalamunda who wish to establish a primary care medical centre so that the hospital can be upgraded. The Government has given a guarantee that that will be done. Secondly, it has said that the $5.5 million allocated to upgrading the Kalamunda District Community Hospital will remain in the budget and will be spent on upgrading the hospital. Thirdly, the Government has said, as the member for Darling Range correctly quoted me a few minutes ago, that it will not rush into this and do it tomorrow. Since the answer to that question came in, the Reid report has been released, and the picture for the people of Darling Range is no different from that for the people of Fremantle and every other area of the State. We now have a vision and we will stick to it.
The Government has no intention of responding to individual pressure groups that say that this is inconsistent with the Government’s plan, and ask the Government to do it for them. How stupid can a person be? If people want to see the health system get together and start delivering real outcomes, they should get on board with a real coordinated plan. Pandering to every interest group and pressure group will mean never being able to deliver what the public wants from the health care system. Dr Harry Cohen has done a study that effectively said that, in the interests of the safety of the mothers and their children, obstetrics should be shifted from Kalamunda District Community Hospital to the bottom of the hill at Swan District Hospital. That is what the experts have said following a review of obstetric services. What do I do? Should I ignore that report, in the aftermath of everything that has happened at King Edward Memorial Hospital recently, and go along with the member for Darling Range, ignoring what the experts tell me about how to provide for safe delivery of babies in this State? I am on the side of the mothers and their babies, not that of members opposite. Consistent with the Reid vision for the future of health care in Western Australia, the Government has said three things to the people of Kalamunda. Firstly, land will be made available on the hospital site for general practitioners in Kalamunda who wish to establish a primary care medical centre so that the hospital can be upgraded. The Government has given a guarantee that that will be done. Secondly, it has said that the $5.5 million allocated to upgrading the Kalamunda District Community Hospital will remain in the budget and will be spent on upgrading the hospital. Thirdly, the Government has said, as the member for Darling Range correctly quoted me a few minutes ago, that it will not rush into this and do it tomorrow. Since the answer to that question came in, the Reid report has been released, and the picture for the people of Darling Range is no different from that for the people of Fremantle and every other area of the State. We now have a vision and we will stick to it.
Consistent with the Reid vision for the future of health care in Western Australia, the Government has said three things to the people of Kalamunda. Firstly, land will be made available on the hospital site for general practitioners in Kalamunda who wish to establish a primary care medical centre so that the hospital can be upgraded. The Government has given a guarantee that that will be done. Secondly, it has said that the $5.5 million allocated to upgrading the Kalamunda District Community Hospital will remain in the budget and will be spent on upgrading the hospital. Thirdly, the Government has said, as the member for Darling Range correctly quoted me a few minutes ago, that it will not rush into this and do it tomorrow. Since the answer to that question came in, the Reid report has been released, and the picture for the people of Darling Range is no different from that for the people of Fremantle and every other area of the State. We now have a vision and we will stick to it.
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