❓ The Minister for Education criticises the Commonwealth Government's higher education policies, arguing they disadvantage WA students due to funding shortfalls and a decline in university attendance rates. He attributes this to the policies of Dr. Kemp and advocates for a change in government.
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HIGHER EDUCATION PLACES
Can the minister advise the House how the Commonwealth Government’s inequitable distribution of higher education places will affect Western Australian students? Mr CARPENTER
Can the minister advise the House how the Commonwealth Government’s inequitable distribution of higher education places will affect Western Australian students? Mr CARPENTER
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I appreciate some notice of the question. I do not know how many members saw The 7.30 Report last night, but it showed an interesting debate between the federal education minister, Dr David Kemp, and Mr Michael Lee, the federal opposition spokesperson on education. I know that other education ministers around the country have had the same experience with Dr Kemp, but it is depressing listening to Dr Kemp’s utterances about public education. For example, last night he defended the policy that, essentially, sees full fee paying Australian students gain university access ahead of other Australian students who score more than they do on the tertiary entrance examination ranking. These people have access to university places simply on the basis that they can pay for them. Repeatedly last night, Dr Kemp ruled out the possibility that he would introduce complete deregulation of university fees, and would compound the present effect of his policies. That is disappointing. Australia at the moment has a declining number of young Australians going into university. It is almost unthinkable that this could be happening in Australia in 2001. Dr Kemp’s policies directly impact on this trend. This needs to be brought to the attention of the Australian people, and something done about it. Obviously, we have the opportunity to do something about it in the weekend election. Western Australia is suffering particularly because of policies that Dr Kemp is overseeing. Western Australia has a shortfall of 1 200 government-funded places for university, and an operating shortfall on the same basis of $16 million. The worst aspect is that this will get gradually worse as Western Australia’s population grows - unless we have a change in policy to deal with it. This trend at the higher education level comes at the same time as the Western Australian secondary education system has seen a decline in the number of students who are successfully completing year 12. Mr Barnett: Compare that with the number of students in educational training, which is the relevant statistic. Mr CARPENTER: No, it is not relevant. The Leader of the Opposition knows what the issue is. We have seen a decline in the number of students in Western Australia who have successfully completed year 12. It is unbelievable that anybody would try to defend that position. To give the Leader of the Opposition credit, when he was on this side of the Chamber he raised this as an issue of concern when he said we should be pitching for 90 per cent retention rates. We have been going backwards. When one links this to what has been happening at the federal policy level, it is disastrous. In the 1996 to 2001 period we have seen a real decline in the number of year 12 students going to university in Western Australia - a decline of around four per cent in the numbers going from year 12 TEE to university. Over a 10-year period from 1991 to 2001 the decline in the number of year 12 students going to university has been from 43 per cent down to 33 per cent. This is a massive decline in the number of young people in Western Australia going to university. Dr Kemp’s policies are directly impacting on this trend. His policies need to end. The only way in which to stop this trend in Western Australia is to have a federal Labor Government. Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: It is a fact. The federal coalition Government is totally deaf to the voices of the Western Australian people on the issue of education. That deafness is having massive social implications for this nation. As Rupert Murdoch pointed out at a recent press conference, Australia will lock itself into a very bleak future unless it successfully turns around its federal policies. Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: I am surprised to hear the current Leader of the Opposition apparently defending Dr Kemp. Mr Barnett: This answer has been going on for 10 minutes. Mr CARPENTER: Dr Kemp is doing this country a major disservice.
Mr CARPENTER replied: I appreciate some notice of the question. I do not know how many members saw The 7.30 Report last night, but it showed an interesting debate between the federal education minister, Dr David Kemp, and Mr Michael Lee, the federal opposition spokesperson on education. I know that other education ministers around the country have had the same experience with Dr Kemp, but it is depressing listening to Dr Kemp’s utterances about public education. For example, last night he defended the policy that, essentially, sees full fee paying Australian students gain university access ahead of other Australian students who score more than they do on the tertiary entrance examination ranking. These people have access to university places simply on the basis that they can pay for them. Repeatedly last night, Dr Kemp ruled out the possibility that he would introduce complete deregulation of university fees, and would compound the present effect of his policies. That is disappointing. Australia at the moment has a declining number of young Australians going into university. It is almost unthinkable that this could be happening in Australia in 2001. Dr Kemp’s policies directly impact on this trend. This needs to be brought to the attention of the Australian people, and something done about it. Obviously, we have the opportunity to do something about it in the weekend election. Western Australia is suffering particularly because of policies that Dr Kemp is overseeing. Western Australia has a shortfall of 1 200 government-funded places for university, and an operating shortfall on the same basis of $16 million. The worst aspect is that this will get gradually worse as Western Australia’s population grows - unless we have a change in policy to deal with it. This trend at the higher education level comes at the same time as the Western Australian secondary education system has seen a decline in the number of students who are successfully completing year 12. Mr Barnett: Compare that with the number of students in educational training, which is the relevant statistic. Mr CARPENTER: No, it is not relevant. The Leader of the Opposition knows what the issue is. We have seen a decline in the number of students in Western Australia who have successfully completed year 12. It is unbelievable that anybody would try to defend that position. To give the Leader of the Opposition credit, when he was on this side of the Chamber he raised this as an issue of concern when he said we should be pitching for 90 per cent retention rates. We have been going backwards. When one links this to what has been happening at the federal policy level, it is disastrous. In the 1996 to 2001 period we have seen a real decline in the number of year 12 students going to university in Western Australia - a decline of around four per cent in the numbers going from year 12 TEE to university. Over a 10-year period from 1991 to 2001 the decline in the number of year 12 students going to university has been from 43 per cent down to 33 per cent. This is a massive decline in the number of young people in Western Australia going to university. Dr Kemp’s policies are directly impacting on this trend. His policies need to end. The only way in which to stop this trend in Western Australia is to have a federal Labor Government. Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: It is a fact. The federal coalition Government is totally deaf to the voices of the Western Australian people on the issue of education. That deafness is having massive social implications for this nation. As Rupert Murdoch pointed out at a recent press conference, Australia will lock itself into a very bleak future unless it successfully turns around its federal policies. Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: I am surprised to hear the current Leader of the Opposition apparently defending Dr Kemp. Mr Barnett: This answer has been going on for 10 minutes. Mr CARPENTER: Dr Kemp is doing this country a major disservice.
I appreciate some notice of the question. I do not know how many members saw The 7.30 Report last night, but it showed an interesting debate between the federal education minister, Dr David Kemp, and Mr Michael Lee, the federal opposition spokesperson on education. I know that other education ministers around the country have had the same experience with Dr Kemp, but it is depressing listening to Dr Kemp’s utterances about public education. For example, last night he defended the policy that, essentially, sees full fee paying Australian students gain university access ahead of other Australian students who score more than they do on the tertiary entrance examination ranking. These people have access to university places simply on the basis that they can pay for them. Repeatedly last night, Dr Kemp ruled out the possibility that he would introduce complete deregulation of university fees, and would compound the present effect of his policies. That is disappointing. Australia at the moment has a declining number of young Australians going into university. It is almost unthinkable that this could be happening in Australia in 2001. Dr Kemp’s policies directly impact on this trend. This needs to be brought to the attention of the Australian people, and something done about it. Obviously, we have the opportunity to do something about it in the weekend election. Western Australia is suffering particularly because of policies that Dr Kemp is overseeing. Western Australia has a shortfall of 1 200 government-funded places for university, and an operating shortfall on the same basis of $16 million. The worst aspect is that this will get gradually worse as Western Australia’s population grows - unless we have a change in policy to deal with it. This trend at the higher education level comes at the same time as the Western Australian secondary education system has seen a decline in the number of students who are successfully completing year 12. Mr Barnett: Compare that with the number of students in educational training, which is the relevant statistic. Mr CARPENTER: No, it is not relevant. The Leader of the Opposition knows what the issue is. We have seen a decline in the number of students in Western Australia who have successfully completed year 12. It is unbelievable that anybody would try to defend that position. To give the Leader of the Opposition credit, when he was on this side of the Chamber he raised this as an issue of concern when he said we should be pitching for 90 per cent retention rates. We have been going backwards. When one links this to what has been happening at the federal policy level, it is disastrous. In the 1996 to 2001 period we have seen a real decline in the number of year 12 students going to university in Western Australia - a decline of around four per cent in the numbers going from year 12 TEE to university. Over a 10-year period from 1991 to 2001 the decline in the number of year 12 students going to university has been from 43 per cent down to 33 per cent. This is a massive decline in the number of young people in Western Australia going to university. Dr Kemp’s policies are directly impacting on this trend. His policies need to end. The only way in which to stop this trend in Western Australia is to have a federal Labor Government. Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: It is a fact. The federal coalition Government is totally deaf to the voices of the Western Australian people on the issue of education. That deafness is having massive social implications for this nation. As Rupert Murdoch pointed out at a recent press conference, Australia will lock itself into a very bleak future unless it successfully turns around its federal policies. Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: I am surprised to hear the current Leader of the Opposition apparently defending Dr Kemp. Mr Barnett: This answer has been going on for 10 minutes. Mr CARPENTER: Dr Kemp is doing this country a major disservice.
Mr Barnett: Compare that with the number of students in educational training, which is the relevant statistic. Mr CARPENTER: No, it is not relevant. The Leader of the Opposition knows what the issue is. We have seen a decline in the number of students in Western Australia who have successfully completed year 12. It is unbelievable that anybody would try to defend that position. To give the Leader of the Opposition credit, when he was on this side of the Chamber he raised this as an issue of concern when he said we should be pitching for 90 per cent retention rates. We have been going backwards. When one links this to what has been happening at the federal policy level, it is disastrous. In the 1996 to 2001 period we have seen a real decline in the number of year 12 students going to university in Western Australia - a decline of around four per cent in the numbers going from year 12 TEE to university. Over a 10-year period from 1991 to 2001 the decline in the number of year 12 students going to university has been from 43 per cent down to 33 per cent. This is a massive decline in the number of young people in Western Australia going to university. Dr Kemp’s policies are directly impacting on this trend. His policies need to end. The only way in which to stop this trend in Western Australia is to have a federal Labor Government. Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: It is a fact. The federal coalition Government is totally deaf to the voices of the Western Australian people on the issue of education. That deafness is having massive social implications for this nation. As Rupert Murdoch pointed out at a recent press conference, Australia will lock itself into a very bleak future unless it successfully turns around its federal policies. Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: I am surprised to hear the current Leader of the Opposition apparently defending Dr Kemp. Mr Barnett: This answer has been going on for 10 minutes. Mr CARPENTER: Dr Kemp is doing this country a major disservice.
Mr CARPENTER: No, it is not relevant. The Leader of the Opposition knows what the issue is. We have seen a decline in the number of students in Western Australia who have successfully completed year 12. It is unbelievable that anybody would try to defend that position. To give the Leader of the Opposition credit, when he was on this side of the Chamber he raised this as an issue of concern when he said we should be pitching for 90 per cent retention rates. We have been going backwards. When one links this to what has been happening at the federal policy level, it is disastrous. In the 1996 to 2001 period we have seen a real decline in the number of year 12 students going to university in Western Australia - a decline of around four per cent in the numbers going from year 12 TEE to university. Over a 10-year period from 1991 to 2001 the decline in the number of year 12 students going to university has been from 43 per cent down to 33 per cent. This is a massive decline in the number of young people in Western Australia going to university. Dr Kemp’s policies are directly impacting on this trend. His policies need to end. The only way in which to stop this trend in Western Australia is to have a federal Labor Government. Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: It is a fact. The federal coalition Government is totally deaf to the voices of the Western Australian people on the issue of education. That deafness is having massive social implications for this nation. As Rupert Murdoch pointed out at a recent press conference, Australia will lock itself into a very bleak future unless it successfully turns around its federal policies. Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: I am surprised to hear the current Leader of the Opposition apparently defending Dr Kemp. Mr Barnett: This answer has been going on for 10 minutes. Mr CARPENTER: Dr Kemp is doing this country a major disservice.
Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: It is a fact. The federal coalition Government is totally deaf to the voices of the Western Australian people on the issue of education. That deafness is having massive social implications for this nation. As Rupert Murdoch pointed out at a recent press conference, Australia will lock itself into a very bleak future unless it successfully turns around its federal policies. Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: I am surprised to hear the current Leader of the Opposition apparently defending Dr Kemp. Mr Barnett: This answer has been going on for 10 minutes. Mr CARPENTER: Dr Kemp is doing this country a major disservice.
Mr CARPENTER: It is a fact. The federal coalition Government is totally deaf to the voices of the Western Australian people on the issue of education. That deafness is having massive social implications for this nation. As Rupert Murdoch pointed out at a recent press conference, Australia will lock itself into a very bleak future unless it successfully turns around its federal policies. Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: I am surprised to hear the current Leader of the Opposition apparently defending Dr Kemp. Mr Barnett: This answer has been going on for 10 minutes. Mr CARPENTER: Dr Kemp is doing this country a major disservice.
Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: I am surprised to hear the current Leader of the Opposition apparently defending Dr Kemp. Mr Barnett: This answer has been going on for 10 minutes. Mr CARPENTER: Dr Kemp is doing this country a major disservice.
Mr CARPENTER: I am surprised to hear the current Leader of the Opposition apparently defending Dr Kemp. Mr Barnett: This answer has been going on for 10 minutes. Mr CARPENTER: Dr Kemp is doing this country a major disservice.
Mr Barnett: This answer has been going on for 10 minutes. Mr CARPENTER: Dr Kemp is doing this country a major disservice.
Mr CARPENTER: Dr Kemp is doing this country a major disservice.
Mr CARPENTER replied: I appreciate some notice of the question. I do not know how many members saw The 7.30 Report last night, but it showed an interesting debate between the federal education minister, Dr David Kemp, and Mr Michael Lee, the federal opposition spokesperson on education. I know that other education ministers around the country have had the same experience with Dr Kemp, but it is depressing listening to Dr Kemp’s utterances about public education. For example, last night he defended the policy that, essentially, sees full fee paying Australian students gain university access ahead of other Australian students who score more than they do on the tertiary entrance examination ranking. These people have access to university places simply on the basis that they can pay for them. Repeatedly last night, Dr Kemp ruled out the possibility that he would introduce complete deregulation of university fees, and would compound the present effect of his policies. That is disappointing. Australia at the moment has a declining number of young Australians going into university. It is almost unthinkable that this could be happening in Australia in 2001. Dr Kemp’s policies directly impact on this trend. This needs to be brought to the attention of the Australian people, and something done about it. Obviously, we have the opportunity to do something about it in the weekend election. Western Australia is suffering particularly because of policies that Dr Kemp is overseeing. Western Australia has a shortfall of 1 200 government-funded places for university, and an operating shortfall on the same basis of $16 million. The worst aspect is that this will get gradually worse as Western Australia’s population grows - unless we have a change in policy to deal with it. This trend at the higher education level comes at the same time as the Western Australian secondary education system has seen a decline in the number of students who are successfully completing year 12. Mr Barnett: Compare that with the number of students in educational training, which is the relevant statistic. Mr CARPENTER: No, it is not relevant. The Leader of the Opposition knows what the issue is. We have seen a decline in the number of students in Western Australia who have successfully completed year 12. It is unbelievable that anybody would try to defend that position. To give the Leader of the Opposition credit, when he was on this side of the Chamber he raised this as an issue of concern when he said we should be pitching for 90 per cent retention rates. We have been going backwards. When one links this to what has been happening at the federal policy level, it is disastrous. In the 1996 to 2001 period we have seen a real decline in the number of year 12 students going to university in Western Australia - a decline of around four per cent in the numbers going from year 12 TEE to university. Over a 10-year period from 1991 to 2001 the decline in the number of year 12 students going to university has been from 43 per cent down to 33 per cent. This is a massive decline in the number of young people in Western Australia going to university. Dr Kemp’s policies are directly impacting on this trend. His policies need to end. The only way in which to stop this trend in Western Australia is to have a federal Labor Government. Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: It is a fact. The federal coalition Government is totally deaf to the voices of the Western Australian people on the issue of education. That deafness is having massive social implications for this nation. As Rupert Murdoch pointed out at a recent press conference, Australia will lock itself into a very bleak future unless it successfully turns around its federal policies. Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: I am surprised to hear the current Leader of the Opposition apparently defending Dr Kemp. Mr Barnett: This answer has been going on for 10 minutes. Mr CARPENTER: Dr Kemp is doing this country a major disservice.
I appreciate some notice of the question. I do not know how many members saw The 7.30 Report last night, but it showed an interesting debate between the federal education minister, Dr David Kemp, and Mr Michael Lee, the federal opposition spokesperson on education. I know that other education ministers around the country have had the same experience with Dr Kemp, but it is depressing listening to Dr Kemp’s utterances about public education. For example, last night he defended the policy that, essentially, sees full fee paying Australian students gain university access ahead of other Australian students who score more than they do on the tertiary entrance examination ranking. These people have access to university places simply on the basis that they can pay for them. Repeatedly last night, Dr Kemp ruled out the possibility that he would introduce complete deregulation of university fees, and would compound the present effect of his policies. That is disappointing. Australia at the moment has a declining number of young Australians going into university. It is almost unthinkable that this could be happening in Australia in 2001. Dr Kemp’s policies directly impact on this trend. This needs to be brought to the attention of the Australian people, and something done about it. Obviously, we have the opportunity to do something about it in the weekend election. Western Australia is suffering particularly because of policies that Dr Kemp is overseeing. Western Australia has a shortfall of 1 200 government-funded places for university, and an operating shortfall on the same basis of $16 million. The worst aspect is that this will get gradually worse as Western Australia’s population grows - unless we have a change in policy to deal with it. This trend at the higher education level comes at the same time as the Western Australian secondary education system has seen a decline in the number of students who are successfully completing year 12. Mr Barnett: Compare that with the number of students in educational training, which is the relevant statistic. Mr CARPENTER: No, it is not relevant. The Leader of the Opposition knows what the issue is. We have seen a decline in the number of students in Western Australia who have successfully completed year 12. It is unbelievable that anybody would try to defend that position. To give the Leader of the Opposition credit, when he was on this side of the Chamber he raised this as an issue of concern when he said we should be pitching for 90 per cent retention rates. We have been going backwards. When one links this to what has been happening at the federal policy level, it is disastrous. In the 1996 to 2001 period we have seen a real decline in the number of year 12 students going to university in Western Australia - a decline of around four per cent in the numbers going from year 12 TEE to university. Over a 10-year period from 1991 to 2001 the decline in the number of year 12 students going to university has been from 43 per cent down to 33 per cent. This is a massive decline in the number of young people in Western Australia going to university. Dr Kemp’s policies are directly impacting on this trend. His policies need to end. The only way in which to stop this trend in Western Australia is to have a federal Labor Government. Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: It is a fact. The federal coalition Government is totally deaf to the voices of the Western Australian people on the issue of education. That deafness is having massive social implications for this nation. As Rupert Murdoch pointed out at a recent press conference, Australia will lock itself into a very bleak future unless it successfully turns around its federal policies. Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: I am surprised to hear the current Leader of the Opposition apparently defending Dr Kemp. Mr Barnett: This answer has been going on for 10 minutes. Mr CARPENTER: Dr Kemp is doing this country a major disservice.
Mr Barnett: Compare that with the number of students in educational training, which is the relevant statistic. Mr CARPENTER: No, it is not relevant. The Leader of the Opposition knows what the issue is. We have seen a decline in the number of students in Western Australia who have successfully completed year 12. It is unbelievable that anybody would try to defend that position. To give the Leader of the Opposition credit, when he was on this side of the Chamber he raised this as an issue of concern when he said we should be pitching for 90 per cent retention rates. We have been going backwards. When one links this to what has been happening at the federal policy level, it is disastrous. In the 1996 to 2001 period we have seen a real decline in the number of year 12 students going to university in Western Australia - a decline of around four per cent in the numbers going from year 12 TEE to university. Over a 10-year period from 1991 to 2001 the decline in the number of year 12 students going to university has been from 43 per cent down to 33 per cent. This is a massive decline in the number of young people in Western Australia going to university. Dr Kemp’s policies are directly impacting on this trend. His policies need to end. The only way in which to stop this trend in Western Australia is to have a federal Labor Government. Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: It is a fact. The federal coalition Government is totally deaf to the voices of the Western Australian people on the issue of education. That deafness is having massive social implications for this nation. As Rupert Murdoch pointed out at a recent press conference, Australia will lock itself into a very bleak future unless it successfully turns around its federal policies. Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: I am surprised to hear the current Leader of the Opposition apparently defending Dr Kemp. Mr Barnett: This answer has been going on for 10 minutes. Mr CARPENTER: Dr Kemp is doing this country a major disservice.
Mr CARPENTER: No, it is not relevant. The Leader of the Opposition knows what the issue is. We have seen a decline in the number of students in Western Australia who have successfully completed year 12. It is unbelievable that anybody would try to defend that position. To give the Leader of the Opposition credit, when he was on this side of the Chamber he raised this as an issue of concern when he said we should be pitching for 90 per cent retention rates. We have been going backwards. When one links this to what has been happening at the federal policy level, it is disastrous. In the 1996 to 2001 period we have seen a real decline in the number of year 12 students going to university in Western Australia - a decline of around four per cent in the numbers going from year 12 TEE to university. Over a 10-year period from 1991 to 2001 the decline in the number of year 12 students going to university has been from 43 per cent down to 33 per cent. This is a massive decline in the number of young people in Western Australia going to university. Dr Kemp’s policies are directly impacting on this trend. His policies need to end. The only way in which to stop this trend in Western Australia is to have a federal Labor Government. Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: It is a fact. The federal coalition Government is totally deaf to the voices of the Western Australian people on the issue of education. That deafness is having massive social implications for this nation. As Rupert Murdoch pointed out at a recent press conference, Australia will lock itself into a very bleak future unless it successfully turns around its federal policies. Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: I am surprised to hear the current Leader of the Opposition apparently defending Dr Kemp. Mr Barnett: This answer has been going on for 10 minutes. Mr CARPENTER: Dr Kemp is doing this country a major disservice.
Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: It is a fact. The federal coalition Government is totally deaf to the voices of the Western Australian people on the issue of education. That deafness is having massive social implications for this nation. As Rupert Murdoch pointed out at a recent press conference, Australia will lock itself into a very bleak future unless it successfully turns around its federal policies. Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: I am surprised to hear the current Leader of the Opposition apparently defending Dr Kemp. Mr Barnett: This answer has been going on for 10 minutes. Mr CARPENTER: Dr Kemp is doing this country a major disservice.
Mr CARPENTER: It is a fact. The federal coalition Government is totally deaf to the voices of the Western Australian people on the issue of education. That deafness is having massive social implications for this nation. As Rupert Murdoch pointed out at a recent press conference, Australia will lock itself into a very bleak future unless it successfully turns around its federal policies. Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: I am surprised to hear the current Leader of the Opposition apparently defending Dr Kemp. Mr Barnett: This answer has been going on for 10 minutes. Mr CARPENTER: Dr Kemp is doing this country a major disservice.
Several members interjected. Mr CARPENTER: I am surprised to hear the current Leader of the Opposition apparently defending Dr Kemp. Mr Barnett: This answer has been going on for 10 minutes. Mr CARPENTER: Dr Kemp is doing this country a major disservice.
Mr CARPENTER: I am surprised to hear the current Leader of the Opposition apparently defending Dr Kemp. Mr Barnett: This answer has been going on for 10 minutes. Mr CARPENTER: Dr Kemp is doing this country a major disservice.
Mr Barnett: This answer has been going on for 10 minutes. Mr CARPENTER: Dr Kemp is doing this country a major disservice.
Mr CARPENTER: Dr Kemp is doing this country a major disservice.
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