❓ Question regarding the Premier's actions to restore public confidence in the wake of Corruption and Crime Commission (CCC) hearings, followed by a heated debate and accusations between the Premier and the Leader of the Opposition.
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CORRUPTION AND CRIME COMMISSION - PUBLIC CONFIDENCE
I refer to the Leader of the Opposition’s claim that the Premier has done nothing to restore confidence following revelations at the Corruption and Crime Commission hearings. Will the Premier please advise the house of what he has done? Mr A.J. CARPENTER
I refer to the Leader of the Opposition’s claim that the Premier has done nothing to restore confidence following revelations at the Corruption and Crime Commission hearings. Will the Premier please advise the house of what he has done? Mr A.J. CARPENTER
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I thank the member for the question. Before I respond, I acknowledge in the public gallery students from Our Lady of Good Counsel, Karrinyup. I also welcome the principal, Jean Blechynden, and students of Balga Primary School; and year 10 justice and law students from Mt Lawley Senior High School - they will find this interesting - who were brought along by their local member, the member for Perth. Welcome to the Parliament. Take note, children! This is what is called hypocrisy in its grandest form in politics! Withdrawal of Remark Mr C.J. BARNETT : That was a deliberate slight on the Leader of the Opposition, in front of children, and the use of the word “hypocrisy” was clearly unparliamentary. The SPEAKER : Members, the use of the word “hypocrisy” definitely falls into the area of unparliamentary language. However, in the context in which the word was used, it was not directed at a particular person. Although it is close to the wind, it is not unparliamentary. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I would soon run out of adjectives, would I not? The Leader of the Opposition said in this place yesterday, quite remarkably, that I had done absolutely nothing to restore any confidence in the system of politics in Western Australia. Then he went on to detail what I had done and said, “But you had no alternative.” Following the evidence to the Corruption and Crime Commission on 8 November, it was clear that the then member for Peel had not honoured his unequivocal commitment to me, made when he became a minister, that he would be able to keep his responsibilities as a minister and his friendship and relationship with Brian Burke separate. I believe that the evidence to the CCC was compelling and overwhelming, and I asked for his resignation from state cabinet. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Why didn’t you sack him? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did the member say? Mr M.W. Trenorden : You asked for his resignation. Why didn’t you sack him? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : We have some intellectual giants running around this place, have we not? I asked for his resignation from state cabinet. Furthermore, I told him that I did not believe there was any future for him in the state Labor Party and he should not come back to the Parliament, and he did not. Also, I made it clear to the Labor Party - I said this yesterday - that Brian Burke had to go from the Labor Party; I said that if the party did not move to begin expulsion, or he did not resign, I could not continue as the Leader of the Labor Party. Mr P.D. Omodei : Why didn’t you make the same commitment about Norm Marlborough? Why hasn’t he been expelled? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will get to the Leader of the Opposition in a minute. Brian Burke has now resigned from the Labor Party. We are establishing a register of lobbyists, much to the chagrin of some people in the business community. However, unfortunately, it is necessary. We will establish a register of lobbyists. Brian Burke and Julian Grill will not be on that register, because they have already shown, as a partnership, that they would not meet the requirements. I have taken strong and decisive action after hearing that CCC evidence. Can the same thing be said for the Leader of the Liberal Party? This is what the CCC has uncovered in relation to the Leader of the Liberal Party, his team and his deputy. The member for Vasse and Noel Crichton-Browne met in a car in the car park at Parliament House in the days before the member was interviewed by the CCC. That is correct, is it not? That is correct. In that meeting, the member for Vasse told Mr Crichton-Browne that he was to be interviewed by the CCC. He also told him that it was about a meeting between the two of them in 2003, and that an allegation had been made that Mr Crichton-Browne had threatened the member for Vasse at that meeting. Some time after his interview with the CCC, the member for Vasse spoke to Mr Crichton-Browne about his interview. I ask the house to reflect on what I have just outlined. The member for Vasse was asked to give evidence to the CCC about a meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne pertaining to the Canal Rocks development and the possibility of corruption. Somehow or other, the fact that he was to go to the CCC to give evidence became known to Noel Crichton-Browne, and they met secretly in a car in the car park at Parliament House - secretly. They discussed, on the evidence given by both of them to the CCC, the evidence that they will provide to the CCC. In fact, Mr Crichton-Browne went so far as to suggest some answers, which sounds a little like coaching, or, in other words, collusion. Is that in accordance with the law? This is what Mr Crichton-Browne - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Orders, members! I call the member for Nedlands and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the first time. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is what Mr Crichton-Browne told the CCC - I said words to the effect, “Troy, if I’m ever asked about that conversation I’ll tell them the truth,” and I think I said, “It was a perfectly civilised conversation and I asked nothing of you.” Mr Crichton-Browne suggested that answer to the member for Vasse. There was clear collusion between the two of them about their evidence. Noel Crichton-Browne coached the member for Vasse before he was interviewed by the CCC. If such a thing had happened on this side of the house, I would have taken the action that I took against Norm Marlborough. In fact, it is absolutely breathtakingly hypocritical that the member for Vasse is sitting over there, with all this now on the public record, and no action whatsoever has been taken against him by the Leader of the Liberal Party - none. It is breathtaking. It is clearly improper, if not illegal. They sought to undermine the activity of the CCC. Mr C.J. Barnett : In your opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes. Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: I thank the member for the question. Before I respond, I acknowledge in the public gallery students from Our Lady of Good Counsel, Karrinyup. I also welcome the principal, Jean Blechynden, and students of Balga Primary School; and year 10 justice and law students from Mt Lawley Senior High School - they will find this interesting - who were brought along by their local member, the member for Perth. Welcome to the Parliament. Take note, children! This is what is called hypocrisy in its grandest form in politics! Withdrawal of Remark Mr C.J. BARNETT : That was a deliberate slight on the Leader of the Opposition, in front of children, and the use of the word “hypocrisy” was clearly unparliamentary. The SPEAKER : Members, the use of the word “hypocrisy” definitely falls into the area of unparliamentary language. However, in the context in which the word was used, it was not directed at a particular person. Although it is close to the wind, it is not unparliamentary. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I would soon run out of adjectives, would I not? The Leader of the Opposition said in this place yesterday, quite remarkably, that I had done absolutely nothing to restore any confidence in the system of politics in Western Australia. Then he went on to detail what I had done and said, “But you had no alternative.” Following the evidence to the Corruption and Crime Commission on 8 November, it was clear that the then member for Peel had not honoured his unequivocal commitment to me, made when he became a minister, that he would be able to keep his responsibilities as a minister and his friendship and relationship with Brian Burke separate. I believe that the evidence to the CCC was compelling and overwhelming, and I asked for his resignation from state cabinet. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Why didn’t you sack him? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did the member say? Mr M.W. Trenorden : You asked for his resignation. Why didn’t you sack him? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : We have some intellectual giants running around this place, have we not? I asked for his resignation from state cabinet. Furthermore, I told him that I did not believe there was any future for him in the state Labor Party and he should not come back to the Parliament, and he did not. Also, I made it clear to the Labor Party - I said this yesterday - that Brian Burke had to go from the Labor Party; I said that if the party did not move to begin expulsion, or he did not resign, I could not continue as the Leader of the Labor Party. Mr P.D. Omodei : Why didn’t you make the same commitment about Norm Marlborough? Why hasn’t he been expelled? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will get to the Leader of the Opposition in a minute. Brian Burke has now resigned from the Labor Party. We are establishing a register of lobbyists, much to the chagrin of some people in the business community. However, unfortunately, it is necessary. We will establish a register of lobbyists. Brian Burke and Julian Grill will not be on that register, because they have already shown, as a partnership, that they would not meet the requirements. I have taken strong and decisive action after hearing that CCC evidence. Can the same thing be said for the Leader of the Liberal Party? This is what the CCC has uncovered in relation to the Leader of the Liberal Party, his team and his deputy. The member for Vasse and Noel Crichton-Browne met in a car in the car park at Parliament House in the days before the member was interviewed by the CCC. That is correct, is it not? That is correct. In that meeting, the member for Vasse told Mr Crichton-Browne that he was to be interviewed by the CCC. He also told him that it was about a meeting between the two of them in 2003, and that an allegation had been made that Mr Crichton-Browne had threatened the member for Vasse at that meeting. Some time after his interview with the CCC, the member for Vasse spoke to Mr Crichton-Browne about his interview. I ask the house to reflect on what I have just outlined. The member for Vasse was asked to give evidence to the CCC about a meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne pertaining to the Canal Rocks development and the possibility of corruption. Somehow or other, the fact that he was to go to the CCC to give evidence became known to Noel Crichton-Browne, and they met secretly in a car in the car park at Parliament House - secretly. They discussed, on the evidence given by both of them to the CCC, the evidence that they will provide to the CCC. In fact, Mr Crichton-Browne went so far as to suggest some answers, which sounds a little like coaching, or, in other words, collusion. Is that in accordance with the law? This is what Mr Crichton-Browne - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Orders, members! I call the member for Nedlands and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the first time. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is what Mr Crichton-Browne told the CCC - I said words to the effect, “Troy, if I’m ever asked about that conversation I’ll tell them the truth,” and I think I said, “It was a perfectly civilised conversation and I asked nothing of you.” Mr Crichton-Browne suggested that answer to the member for Vasse. There was clear collusion between the two of them about their evidence. Noel Crichton-Browne coached the member for Vasse before he was interviewed by the CCC. If such a thing had happened on this side of the house, I would have taken the action that I took against Norm Marlborough. In fact, it is absolutely breathtakingly hypocritical that the member for Vasse is sitting over there, with all this now on the public record, and no action whatsoever has been taken against him by the Leader of the Liberal Party - none. It is breathtaking. It is clearly improper, if not illegal. They sought to undermine the activity of the CCC. Mr C.J. Barnett : In your opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes. Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
I thank the member for the question. Before I respond, I acknowledge in the public gallery students from Our Lady of Good Counsel, Karrinyup. I also welcome the principal, Jean Blechynden, and students of Balga Primary School; and year 10 justice and law students from Mt Lawley Senior High School - they will find this interesting - who were brought along by their local member, the member for Perth. Welcome to the Parliament. Take note, children! This is what is called hypocrisy in its grandest form in politics! Withdrawal of Remark Mr C.J. BARNETT : That was a deliberate slight on the Leader of the Opposition, in front of children, and the use of the word “hypocrisy” was clearly unparliamentary. The SPEAKER : Members, the use of the word “hypocrisy” definitely falls into the area of unparliamentary language. However, in the context in which the word was used, it was not directed at a particular person. Although it is close to the wind, it is not unparliamentary. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I would soon run out of adjectives, would I not? The Leader of the Opposition said in this place yesterday, quite remarkably, that I had done absolutely nothing to restore any confidence in the system of politics in Western Australia. Then he went on to detail what I had done and said, “But you had no alternative.” Following the evidence to the Corruption and Crime Commission on 8 November, it was clear that the then member for Peel had not honoured his unequivocal commitment to me, made when he became a minister, that he would be able to keep his responsibilities as a minister and his friendship and relationship with Brian Burke separate. I believe that the evidence to the CCC was compelling and overwhelming, and I asked for his resignation from state cabinet. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Why didn’t you sack him? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did the member say? Mr M.W. Trenorden : You asked for his resignation. Why didn’t you sack him? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : We have some intellectual giants running around this place, have we not? I asked for his resignation from state cabinet. Furthermore, I told him that I did not believe there was any future for him in the state Labor Party and he should not come back to the Parliament, and he did not. Also, I made it clear to the Labor Party - I said this yesterday - that Brian Burke had to go from the Labor Party; I said that if the party did not move to begin expulsion, or he did not resign, I could not continue as the Leader of the Labor Party. Mr P.D. Omodei : Why didn’t you make the same commitment about Norm Marlborough? Why hasn’t he been expelled? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will get to the Leader of the Opposition in a minute. Brian Burke has now resigned from the Labor Party. We are establishing a register of lobbyists, much to the chagrin of some people in the business community. However, unfortunately, it is necessary. We will establish a register of lobbyists. Brian Burke and Julian Grill will not be on that register, because they have already shown, as a partnership, that they would not meet the requirements. I have taken strong and decisive action after hearing that CCC evidence. Can the same thing be said for the Leader of the Liberal Party? This is what the CCC has uncovered in relation to the Leader of the Liberal Party, his team and his deputy. The member for Vasse and Noel Crichton-Browne met in a car in the car park at Parliament House in the days before the member was interviewed by the CCC. That is correct, is it not? That is correct. In that meeting, the member for Vasse told Mr Crichton-Browne that he was to be interviewed by the CCC. He also told him that it was about a meeting between the two of them in 2003, and that an allegation had been made that Mr Crichton-Browne had threatened the member for Vasse at that meeting. Some time after his interview with the CCC, the member for Vasse spoke to Mr Crichton-Browne about his interview. I ask the house to reflect on what I have just outlined. The member for Vasse was asked to give evidence to the CCC about a meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne pertaining to the Canal Rocks development and the possibility of corruption. Somehow or other, the fact that he was to go to the CCC to give evidence became known to Noel Crichton-Browne, and they met secretly in a car in the car park at Parliament House - secretly. They discussed, on the evidence given by both of them to the CCC, the evidence that they will provide to the CCC. In fact, Mr Crichton-Browne went so far as to suggest some answers, which sounds a little like coaching, or, in other words, collusion. Is that in accordance with the law? This is what Mr Crichton-Browne - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Orders, members! I call the member for Nedlands and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the first time. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is what Mr Crichton-Browne told the CCC - I said words to the effect, “Troy, if I’m ever asked about that conversation I’ll tell them the truth,” and I think I said, “It was a perfectly civilised conversation and I asked nothing of you.” Mr Crichton-Browne suggested that answer to the member for Vasse. There was clear collusion between the two of them about their evidence. Noel Crichton-Browne coached the member for Vasse before he was interviewed by the CCC. If such a thing had happened on this side of the house, I would have taken the action that I took against Norm Marlborough. In fact, it is absolutely breathtakingly hypocritical that the member for Vasse is sitting over there, with all this now on the public record, and no action whatsoever has been taken against him by the Leader of the Liberal Party - none. It is breathtaking. It is clearly improper, if not illegal. They sought to undermine the activity of the CCC. Mr C.J. Barnett : In your opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes. Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Before I respond, I acknowledge in the public gallery students from Our Lady of Good Counsel, Karrinyup. I also welcome the principal, Jean Blechynden, and students of Balga Primary School; and year 10 justice and law students from Mt Lawley Senior High School - they will find this interesting - who were brought along by their local member, the member for Perth. Welcome to the Parliament. Take note, children! This is what is called hypocrisy in its grandest form in politics! Withdrawal of Remark Mr C.J. BARNETT : That was a deliberate slight on the Leader of the Opposition, in front of children, and the use of the word “hypocrisy” was clearly unparliamentary. The SPEAKER : Members, the use of the word “hypocrisy” definitely falls into the area of unparliamentary language. However, in the context in which the word was used, it was not directed at a particular person. Although it is close to the wind, it is not unparliamentary. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I would soon run out of adjectives, would I not? The Leader of the Opposition said in this place yesterday, quite remarkably, that I had done absolutely nothing to restore any confidence in the system of politics in Western Australia. Then he went on to detail what I had done and said, “But you had no alternative.” Following the evidence to the Corruption and Crime Commission on 8 November, it was clear that the then member for Peel had not honoured his unequivocal commitment to me, made when he became a minister, that he would be able to keep his responsibilities as a minister and his friendship and relationship with Brian Burke separate. I believe that the evidence to the CCC was compelling and overwhelming, and I asked for his resignation from state cabinet. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Why didn’t you sack him? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did the member say? Mr M.W. Trenorden : You asked for his resignation. Why didn’t you sack him? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : We have some intellectual giants running around this place, have we not? I asked for his resignation from state cabinet. Furthermore, I told him that I did not believe there was any future for him in the state Labor Party and he should not come back to the Parliament, and he did not. Also, I made it clear to the Labor Party - I said this yesterday - that Brian Burke had to go from the Labor Party; I said that if the party did not move to begin expulsion, or he did not resign, I could not continue as the Leader of the Labor Party. Mr P.D. Omodei : Why didn’t you make the same commitment about Norm Marlborough? Why hasn’t he been expelled? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will get to the Leader of the Opposition in a minute. Brian Burke has now resigned from the Labor Party. We are establishing a register of lobbyists, much to the chagrin of some people in the business community. However, unfortunately, it is necessary. We will establish a register of lobbyists. Brian Burke and Julian Grill will not be on that register, because they have already shown, as a partnership, that they would not meet the requirements. I have taken strong and decisive action after hearing that CCC evidence. Can the same thing be said for the Leader of the Liberal Party? This is what the CCC has uncovered in relation to the Leader of the Liberal Party, his team and his deputy. The member for Vasse and Noel Crichton-Browne met in a car in the car park at Parliament House in the days before the member was interviewed by the CCC. That is correct, is it not? That is correct. In that meeting, the member for Vasse told Mr Crichton-Browne that he was to be interviewed by the CCC. He also told him that it was about a meeting between the two of them in 2003, and that an allegation had been made that Mr Crichton-Browne had threatened the member for Vasse at that meeting. Some time after his interview with the CCC, the member for Vasse spoke to Mr Crichton-Browne about his interview. I ask the house to reflect on what I have just outlined. The member for Vasse was asked to give evidence to the CCC about a meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne pertaining to the Canal Rocks development and the possibility of corruption. Somehow or other, the fact that he was to go to the CCC to give evidence became known to Noel Crichton-Browne, and they met secretly in a car in the car park at Parliament House - secretly. They discussed, on the evidence given by both of them to the CCC, the evidence that they will provide to the CCC. In fact, Mr Crichton-Browne went so far as to suggest some answers, which sounds a little like coaching, or, in other words, collusion. Is that in accordance with the law? This is what Mr Crichton-Browne - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Orders, members! I call the member for Nedlands and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the first time. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is what Mr Crichton-Browne told the CCC - I said words to the effect, “Troy, if I’m ever asked about that conversation I’ll tell them the truth,” and I think I said, “It was a perfectly civilised conversation and I asked nothing of you.” Mr Crichton-Browne suggested that answer to the member for Vasse. There was clear collusion between the two of them about their evidence. Noel Crichton-Browne coached the member for Vasse before he was interviewed by the CCC. If such a thing had happened on this side of the house, I would have taken the action that I took against Norm Marlborough. In fact, it is absolutely breathtakingly hypocritical that the member for Vasse is sitting over there, with all this now on the public record, and no action whatsoever has been taken against him by the Leader of the Liberal Party - none. It is breathtaking. It is clearly improper, if not illegal. They sought to undermine the activity of the CCC. Mr C.J. Barnett : In your opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes. Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
The SPEAKER : Members, the use of the word “hypocrisy” definitely falls into the area of unparliamentary language. However, in the context in which the word was used, it was not directed at a particular person. Although it is close to the wind, it is not unparliamentary. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I would soon run out of adjectives, would I not? The Leader of the Opposition said in this place yesterday, quite remarkably, that I had done absolutely nothing to restore any confidence in the system of politics in Western Australia. Then he went on to detail what I had done and said, “But you had no alternative.” Following the evidence to the Corruption and Crime Commission on 8 November, it was clear that the then member for Peel had not honoured his unequivocal commitment to me, made when he became a minister, that he would be able to keep his responsibilities as a minister and his friendship and relationship with Brian Burke separate. I believe that the evidence to the CCC was compelling and overwhelming, and I asked for his resignation from state cabinet. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Why didn’t you sack him? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did the member say? Mr M.W. Trenorden : You asked for his resignation. Why didn’t you sack him? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : We have some intellectual giants running around this place, have we not? I asked for his resignation from state cabinet. Furthermore, I told him that I did not believe there was any future for him in the state Labor Party and he should not come back to the Parliament, and he did not. Also, I made it clear to the Labor Party - I said this yesterday - that Brian Burke had to go from the Labor Party; I said that if the party did not move to begin expulsion, or he did not resign, I could not continue as the Leader of the Labor Party. Mr P.D. Omodei : Why didn’t you make the same commitment about Norm Marlborough? Why hasn’t he been expelled? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will get to the Leader of the Opposition in a minute. Brian Burke has now resigned from the Labor Party. We are establishing a register of lobbyists, much to the chagrin of some people in the business community. However, unfortunately, it is necessary. We will establish a register of lobbyists. Brian Burke and Julian Grill will not be on that register, because they have already shown, as a partnership, that they would not meet the requirements. I have taken strong and decisive action after hearing that CCC evidence. Can the same thing be said for the Leader of the Liberal Party? This is what the CCC has uncovered in relation to the Leader of the Liberal Party, his team and his deputy. The member for Vasse and Noel Crichton-Browne met in a car in the car park at Parliament House in the days before the member was interviewed by the CCC. That is correct, is it not? That is correct. In that meeting, the member for Vasse told Mr Crichton-Browne that he was to be interviewed by the CCC. He also told him that it was about a meeting between the two of them in 2003, and that an allegation had been made that Mr Crichton-Browne had threatened the member for Vasse at that meeting. Some time after his interview with the CCC, the member for Vasse spoke to Mr Crichton-Browne about his interview. I ask the house to reflect on what I have just outlined. The member for Vasse was asked to give evidence to the CCC about a meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne pertaining to the Canal Rocks development and the possibility of corruption. Somehow or other, the fact that he was to go to the CCC to give evidence became known to Noel Crichton-Browne, and they met secretly in a car in the car park at Parliament House - secretly. They discussed, on the evidence given by both of them to the CCC, the evidence that they will provide to the CCC. In fact, Mr Crichton-Browne went so far as to suggest some answers, which sounds a little like coaching, or, in other words, collusion. Is that in accordance with the law? This is what Mr Crichton-Browne - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Orders, members! I call the member for Nedlands and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the first time. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is what Mr Crichton-Browne told the CCC - I said words to the effect, “Troy, if I’m ever asked about that conversation I’ll tell them the truth,” and I think I said, “It was a perfectly civilised conversation and I asked nothing of you.” Mr Crichton-Browne suggested that answer to the member for Vasse. There was clear collusion between the two of them about their evidence. Noel Crichton-Browne coached the member for Vasse before he was interviewed by the CCC. If such a thing had happened on this side of the house, I would have taken the action that I took against Norm Marlborough. In fact, it is absolutely breathtakingly hypocritical that the member for Vasse is sitting over there, with all this now on the public record, and no action whatsoever has been taken against him by the Leader of the Liberal Party - none. It is breathtaking. It is clearly improper, if not illegal. They sought to undermine the activity of the CCC. Mr C.J. Barnett : In your opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes. Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Mr M.W. Trenorden : Why didn’t you sack him? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did the member say? Mr M.W. Trenorden : You asked for his resignation. Why didn’t you sack him? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : We have some intellectual giants running around this place, have we not? I asked for his resignation from state cabinet. Furthermore, I told him that I did not believe there was any future for him in the state Labor Party and he should not come back to the Parliament, and he did not. Also, I made it clear to the Labor Party - I said this yesterday - that Brian Burke had to go from the Labor Party; I said that if the party did not move to begin expulsion, or he did not resign, I could not continue as the Leader of the Labor Party. Mr P.D. Omodei : Why didn’t you make the same commitment about Norm Marlborough? Why hasn’t he been expelled? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will get to the Leader of the Opposition in a minute. Brian Burke has now resigned from the Labor Party. We are establishing a register of lobbyists, much to the chagrin of some people in the business community. However, unfortunately, it is necessary. We will establish a register of lobbyists. Brian Burke and Julian Grill will not be on that register, because they have already shown, as a partnership, that they would not meet the requirements. I have taken strong and decisive action after hearing that CCC evidence. Can the same thing be said for the Leader of the Liberal Party? This is what the CCC has uncovered in relation to the Leader of the Liberal Party, his team and his deputy. The member for Vasse and Noel Crichton-Browne met in a car in the car park at Parliament House in the days before the member was interviewed by the CCC. That is correct, is it not? That is correct. In that meeting, the member for Vasse told Mr Crichton-Browne that he was to be interviewed by the CCC. He also told him that it was about a meeting between the two of them in 2003, and that an allegation had been made that Mr Crichton-Browne had threatened the member for Vasse at that meeting. Some time after his interview with the CCC, the member for Vasse spoke to Mr Crichton-Browne about his interview. I ask the house to reflect on what I have just outlined. The member for Vasse was asked to give evidence to the CCC about a meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne pertaining to the Canal Rocks development and the possibility of corruption. Somehow or other, the fact that he was to go to the CCC to give evidence became known to Noel Crichton-Browne, and they met secretly in a car in the car park at Parliament House - secretly. They discussed, on the evidence given by both of them to the CCC, the evidence that they will provide to the CCC. In fact, Mr Crichton-Browne went so far as to suggest some answers, which sounds a little like coaching, or, in other words, collusion. Is that in accordance with the law? This is what Mr Crichton-Browne - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Orders, members! I call the member for Nedlands and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the first time. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is what Mr Crichton-Browne told the CCC - I said words to the effect, “Troy, if I’m ever asked about that conversation I’ll tell them the truth,” and I think I said, “It was a perfectly civilised conversation and I asked nothing of you.” Mr Crichton-Browne suggested that answer to the member for Vasse. There was clear collusion between the two of them about their evidence. Noel Crichton-Browne coached the member for Vasse before he was interviewed by the CCC. If such a thing had happened on this side of the house, I would have taken the action that I took against Norm Marlborough. In fact, it is absolutely breathtakingly hypocritical that the member for Vasse is sitting over there, with all this now on the public record, and no action whatsoever has been taken against him by the Leader of the Liberal Party - none. It is breathtaking. It is clearly improper, if not illegal. They sought to undermine the activity of the CCC. Mr C.J. Barnett : In your opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes. Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did the member say? Mr M.W. Trenorden : You asked for his resignation. Why didn’t you sack him? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : We have some intellectual giants running around this place, have we not? I asked for his resignation from state cabinet. Furthermore, I told him that I did not believe there was any future for him in the state Labor Party and he should not come back to the Parliament, and he did not. Also, I made it clear to the Labor Party - I said this yesterday - that Brian Burke had to go from the Labor Party; I said that if the party did not move to begin expulsion, or he did not resign, I could not continue as the Leader of the Labor Party. Mr P.D. Omodei : Why didn’t you make the same commitment about Norm Marlborough? Why hasn’t he been expelled? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will get to the Leader of the Opposition in a minute. Brian Burke has now resigned from the Labor Party. We are establishing a register of lobbyists, much to the chagrin of some people in the business community. However, unfortunately, it is necessary. We will establish a register of lobbyists. Brian Burke and Julian Grill will not be on that register, because they have already shown, as a partnership, that they would not meet the requirements. I have taken strong and decisive action after hearing that CCC evidence. Can the same thing be said for the Leader of the Liberal Party? This is what the CCC has uncovered in relation to the Leader of the Liberal Party, his team and his deputy. The member for Vasse and Noel Crichton-Browne met in a car in the car park at Parliament House in the days before the member was interviewed by the CCC. That is correct, is it not? That is correct. In that meeting, the member for Vasse told Mr Crichton-Browne that he was to be interviewed by the CCC. He also told him that it was about a meeting between the two of them in 2003, and that an allegation had been made that Mr Crichton-Browne had threatened the member for Vasse at that meeting. Some time after his interview with the CCC, the member for Vasse spoke to Mr Crichton-Browne about his interview. I ask the house to reflect on what I have just outlined. The member for Vasse was asked to give evidence to the CCC about a meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne pertaining to the Canal Rocks development and the possibility of corruption. Somehow or other, the fact that he was to go to the CCC to give evidence became known to Noel Crichton-Browne, and they met secretly in a car in the car park at Parliament House - secretly. They discussed, on the evidence given by both of them to the CCC, the evidence that they will provide to the CCC. In fact, Mr Crichton-Browne went so far as to suggest some answers, which sounds a little like coaching, or, in other words, collusion. Is that in accordance with the law? This is what Mr Crichton-Browne - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Orders, members! I call the member for Nedlands and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the first time. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is what Mr Crichton-Browne told the CCC - I said words to the effect, “Troy, if I’m ever asked about that conversation I’ll tell them the truth,” and I think I said, “It was a perfectly civilised conversation and I asked nothing of you.” Mr Crichton-Browne suggested that answer to the member for Vasse. There was clear collusion between the two of them about their evidence. Noel Crichton-Browne coached the member for Vasse before he was interviewed by the CCC. If such a thing had happened on this side of the house, I would have taken the action that I took against Norm Marlborough. In fact, it is absolutely breathtakingly hypocritical that the member for Vasse is sitting over there, with all this now on the public record, and no action whatsoever has been taken against him by the Leader of the Liberal Party - none. It is breathtaking. It is clearly improper, if not illegal. They sought to undermine the activity of the CCC. Mr C.J. Barnett : In your opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes. Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Mr M.W. Trenorden : You asked for his resignation. Why didn’t you sack him? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : We have some intellectual giants running around this place, have we not? I asked for his resignation from state cabinet. Furthermore, I told him that I did not believe there was any future for him in the state Labor Party and he should not come back to the Parliament, and he did not. Also, I made it clear to the Labor Party - I said this yesterday - that Brian Burke had to go from the Labor Party; I said that if the party did not move to begin expulsion, or he did not resign, I could not continue as the Leader of the Labor Party. Mr P.D. Omodei : Why didn’t you make the same commitment about Norm Marlborough? Why hasn’t he been expelled? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will get to the Leader of the Opposition in a minute. Brian Burke has now resigned from the Labor Party. We are establishing a register of lobbyists, much to the chagrin of some people in the business community. However, unfortunately, it is necessary. We will establish a register of lobbyists. Brian Burke and Julian Grill will not be on that register, because they have already shown, as a partnership, that they would not meet the requirements. I have taken strong and decisive action after hearing that CCC evidence. Can the same thing be said for the Leader of the Liberal Party? This is what the CCC has uncovered in relation to the Leader of the Liberal Party, his team and his deputy. The member for Vasse and Noel Crichton-Browne met in a car in the car park at Parliament House in the days before the member was interviewed by the CCC. That is correct, is it not? That is correct. In that meeting, the member for Vasse told Mr Crichton-Browne that he was to be interviewed by the CCC. He also told him that it was about a meeting between the two of them in 2003, and that an allegation had been made that Mr Crichton-Browne had threatened the member for Vasse at that meeting. Some time after his interview with the CCC, the member for Vasse spoke to Mr Crichton-Browne about his interview. I ask the house to reflect on what I have just outlined. The member for Vasse was asked to give evidence to the CCC about a meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne pertaining to the Canal Rocks development and the possibility of corruption. Somehow or other, the fact that he was to go to the CCC to give evidence became known to Noel Crichton-Browne, and they met secretly in a car in the car park at Parliament House - secretly. They discussed, on the evidence given by both of them to the CCC, the evidence that they will provide to the CCC. In fact, Mr Crichton-Browne went so far as to suggest some answers, which sounds a little like coaching, or, in other words, collusion. Is that in accordance with the law? This is what Mr Crichton-Browne - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Orders, members! I call the member for Nedlands and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the first time. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is what Mr Crichton-Browne told the CCC - I said words to the effect, “Troy, if I’m ever asked about that conversation I’ll tell them the truth,” and I think I said, “It was a perfectly civilised conversation and I asked nothing of you.” Mr Crichton-Browne suggested that answer to the member for Vasse. There was clear collusion between the two of them about their evidence. Noel Crichton-Browne coached the member for Vasse before he was interviewed by the CCC. If such a thing had happened on this side of the house, I would have taken the action that I took against Norm Marlborough. In fact, it is absolutely breathtakingly hypocritical that the member for Vasse is sitting over there, with all this now on the public record, and no action whatsoever has been taken against him by the Leader of the Liberal Party - none. It is breathtaking. It is clearly improper, if not illegal. They sought to undermine the activity of the CCC. Mr C.J. Barnett : In your opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes. Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : We have some intellectual giants running around this place, have we not? I asked for his resignation from state cabinet. Furthermore, I told him that I did not believe there was any future for him in the state Labor Party and he should not come back to the Parliament, and he did not. Also, I made it clear to the Labor Party - I said this yesterday - that Brian Burke had to go from the Labor Party; I said that if the party did not move to begin expulsion, or he did not resign, I could not continue as the Leader of the Labor Party. Mr P.D. Omodei : Why didn’t you make the same commitment about Norm Marlborough? Why hasn’t he been expelled? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will get to the Leader of the Opposition in a minute. Brian Burke has now resigned from the Labor Party. We are establishing a register of lobbyists, much to the chagrin of some people in the business community. However, unfortunately, it is necessary. We will establish a register of lobbyists. Brian Burke and Julian Grill will not be on that register, because they have already shown, as a partnership, that they would not meet the requirements. I have taken strong and decisive action after hearing that CCC evidence. Can the same thing be said for the Leader of the Liberal Party? This is what the CCC has uncovered in relation to the Leader of the Liberal Party, his team and his deputy. The member for Vasse and Noel Crichton-Browne met in a car in the car park at Parliament House in the days before the member was interviewed by the CCC. That is correct, is it not? That is correct. In that meeting, the member for Vasse told Mr Crichton-Browne that he was to be interviewed by the CCC. He also told him that it was about a meeting between the two of them in 2003, and that an allegation had been made that Mr Crichton-Browne had threatened the member for Vasse at that meeting. Some time after his interview with the CCC, the member for Vasse spoke to Mr Crichton-Browne about his interview. I ask the house to reflect on what I have just outlined. The member for Vasse was asked to give evidence to the CCC about a meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne pertaining to the Canal Rocks development and the possibility of corruption. Somehow or other, the fact that he was to go to the CCC to give evidence became known to Noel Crichton-Browne, and they met secretly in a car in the car park at Parliament House - secretly. They discussed, on the evidence given by both of them to the CCC, the evidence that they will provide to the CCC. In fact, Mr Crichton-Browne went so far as to suggest some answers, which sounds a little like coaching, or, in other words, collusion. Is that in accordance with the law? This is what Mr Crichton-Browne - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Orders, members! I call the member for Nedlands and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the first time. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is what Mr Crichton-Browne told the CCC - I said words to the effect, “Troy, if I’m ever asked about that conversation I’ll tell them the truth,” and I think I said, “It was a perfectly civilised conversation and I asked nothing of you.” Mr Crichton-Browne suggested that answer to the member for Vasse. There was clear collusion between the two of them about their evidence. Noel Crichton-Browne coached the member for Vasse before he was interviewed by the CCC. If such a thing had happened on this side of the house, I would have taken the action that I took against Norm Marlborough. In fact, it is absolutely breathtakingly hypocritical that the member for Vasse is sitting over there, with all this now on the public record, and no action whatsoever has been taken against him by the Leader of the Liberal Party - none. It is breathtaking. It is clearly improper, if not illegal. They sought to undermine the activity of the CCC. Mr C.J. Barnett : In your opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes. Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Mr P.D. Omodei : Why didn’t you make the same commitment about Norm Marlborough? Why hasn’t he been expelled? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will get to the Leader of the Opposition in a minute. Brian Burke has now resigned from the Labor Party. We are establishing a register of lobbyists, much to the chagrin of some people in the business community. However, unfortunately, it is necessary. We will establish a register of lobbyists. Brian Burke and Julian Grill will not be on that register, because they have already shown, as a partnership, that they would not meet the requirements. I have taken strong and decisive action after hearing that CCC evidence. Can the same thing be said for the Leader of the Liberal Party? This is what the CCC has uncovered in relation to the Leader of the Liberal Party, his team and his deputy. The member for Vasse and Noel Crichton-Browne met in a car in the car park at Parliament House in the days before the member was interviewed by the CCC. That is correct, is it not? That is correct. In that meeting, the member for Vasse told Mr Crichton-Browne that he was to be interviewed by the CCC. He also told him that it was about a meeting between the two of them in 2003, and that an allegation had been made that Mr Crichton-Browne had threatened the member for Vasse at that meeting. Some time after his interview with the CCC, the member for Vasse spoke to Mr Crichton-Browne about his interview. I ask the house to reflect on what I have just outlined. The member for Vasse was asked to give evidence to the CCC about a meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne pertaining to the Canal Rocks development and the possibility of corruption. Somehow or other, the fact that he was to go to the CCC to give evidence became known to Noel Crichton-Browne, and they met secretly in a car in the car park at Parliament House - secretly. They discussed, on the evidence given by both of them to the CCC, the evidence that they will provide to the CCC. In fact, Mr Crichton-Browne went so far as to suggest some answers, which sounds a little like coaching, or, in other words, collusion. Is that in accordance with the law? This is what Mr Crichton-Browne - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Orders, members! I call the member for Nedlands and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the first time. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is what Mr Crichton-Browne told the CCC - I said words to the effect, “Troy, if I’m ever asked about that conversation I’ll tell them the truth,” and I think I said, “It was a perfectly civilised conversation and I asked nothing of you.” Mr Crichton-Browne suggested that answer to the member for Vasse. There was clear collusion between the two of them about their evidence. Noel Crichton-Browne coached the member for Vasse before he was interviewed by the CCC. If such a thing had happened on this side of the house, I would have taken the action that I took against Norm Marlborough. In fact, it is absolutely breathtakingly hypocritical that the member for Vasse is sitting over there, with all this now on the public record, and no action whatsoever has been taken against him by the Leader of the Liberal Party - none. It is breathtaking. It is clearly improper, if not illegal. They sought to undermine the activity of the CCC. Mr C.J. Barnett : In your opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes. Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will get to the Leader of the Opposition in a minute. Brian Burke has now resigned from the Labor Party. We are establishing a register of lobbyists, much to the chagrin of some people in the business community. However, unfortunately, it is necessary. We will establish a register of lobbyists. Brian Burke and Julian Grill will not be on that register, because they have already shown, as a partnership, that they would not meet the requirements. I have taken strong and decisive action after hearing that CCC evidence. Can the same thing be said for the Leader of the Liberal Party? This is what the CCC has uncovered in relation to the Leader of the Liberal Party, his team and his deputy. The member for Vasse and Noel Crichton-Browne met in a car in the car park at Parliament House in the days before the member was interviewed by the CCC. That is correct, is it not? That is correct. In that meeting, the member for Vasse told Mr Crichton-Browne that he was to be interviewed by the CCC. He also told him that it was about a meeting between the two of them in 2003, and that an allegation had been made that Mr Crichton-Browne had threatened the member for Vasse at that meeting. Some time after his interview with the CCC, the member for Vasse spoke to Mr Crichton-Browne about his interview. I ask the house to reflect on what I have just outlined. The member for Vasse was asked to give evidence to the CCC about a meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne pertaining to the Canal Rocks development and the possibility of corruption. Somehow or other, the fact that he was to go to the CCC to give evidence became known to Noel Crichton-Browne, and they met secretly in a car in the car park at Parliament House - secretly. They discussed, on the evidence given by both of them to the CCC, the evidence that they will provide to the CCC. In fact, Mr Crichton-Browne went so far as to suggest some answers, which sounds a little like coaching, or, in other words, collusion. Is that in accordance with the law? This is what Mr Crichton-Browne - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Orders, members! I call the member for Nedlands and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the first time. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is what Mr Crichton-Browne told the CCC - I said words to the effect, “Troy, if I’m ever asked about that conversation I’ll tell them the truth,” and I think I said, “It was a perfectly civilised conversation and I asked nothing of you.” Mr Crichton-Browne suggested that answer to the member for Vasse. There was clear collusion between the two of them about their evidence. Noel Crichton-Browne coached the member for Vasse before he was interviewed by the CCC. If such a thing had happened on this side of the house, I would have taken the action that I took against Norm Marlborough. In fact, it is absolutely breathtakingly hypocritical that the member for Vasse is sitting over there, with all this now on the public record, and no action whatsoever has been taken against him by the Leader of the Liberal Party - none. It is breathtaking. It is clearly improper, if not illegal. They sought to undermine the activity of the CCC. Mr C.J. Barnett : In your opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes. Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Can the same thing be said for the Leader of the Liberal Party? This is what the CCC has uncovered in relation to the Leader of the Liberal Party, his team and his deputy. The member for Vasse and Noel Crichton-Browne met in a car in the car park at Parliament House in the days before the member was interviewed by the CCC. That is correct, is it not? That is correct. In that meeting, the member for Vasse told Mr Crichton-Browne that he was to be interviewed by the CCC. He also told him that it was about a meeting between the two of them in 2003, and that an allegation had been made that Mr Crichton-Browne had threatened the member for Vasse at that meeting. Some time after his interview with the CCC, the member for Vasse spoke to Mr Crichton-Browne about his interview. I ask the house to reflect on what I have just outlined. The member for Vasse was asked to give evidence to the CCC about a meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne pertaining to the Canal Rocks development and the possibility of corruption. Somehow or other, the fact that he was to go to the CCC to give evidence became known to Noel Crichton-Browne, and they met secretly in a car in the car park at Parliament House - secretly. They discussed, on the evidence given by both of them to the CCC, the evidence that they will provide to the CCC. In fact, Mr Crichton-Browne went so far as to suggest some answers, which sounds a little like coaching, or, in other words, collusion. Is that in accordance with the law? This is what Mr Crichton-Browne - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Orders, members! I call the member for Nedlands and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the first time. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is what Mr Crichton-Browne told the CCC - I said words to the effect, “Troy, if I’m ever asked about that conversation I’ll tell them the truth,” and I think I said, “It was a perfectly civilised conversation and I asked nothing of you.” Mr Crichton-Browne suggested that answer to the member for Vasse. There was clear collusion between the two of them about their evidence. Noel Crichton-Browne coached the member for Vasse before he was interviewed by the CCC. If such a thing had happened on this side of the house, I would have taken the action that I took against Norm Marlborough. In fact, it is absolutely breathtakingly hypocritical that the member for Vasse is sitting over there, with all this now on the public record, and no action whatsoever has been taken against him by the Leader of the Liberal Party - none. It is breathtaking. It is clearly improper, if not illegal. They sought to undermine the activity of the CCC. Mr C.J. Barnett : In your opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes. Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
The member for Vasse was asked to give evidence to the CCC about a meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne pertaining to the Canal Rocks development and the possibility of corruption. Somehow or other, the fact that he was to go to the CCC to give evidence became known to Noel Crichton-Browne, and they met secretly in a car in the car park at Parliament House - secretly. They discussed, on the evidence given by both of them to the CCC, the evidence that they will provide to the CCC. In fact, Mr Crichton-Browne went so far as to suggest some answers, which sounds a little like coaching, or, in other words, collusion. Is that in accordance with the law? This is what Mr Crichton-Browne - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Orders, members! I call the member for Nedlands and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the first time. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is what Mr Crichton-Browne told the CCC - I said words to the effect, “Troy, if I’m ever asked about that conversation I’ll tell them the truth,” and I think I said, “It was a perfectly civilised conversation and I asked nothing of you.” Mr Crichton-Browne suggested that answer to the member for Vasse. There was clear collusion between the two of them about their evidence. Noel Crichton-Browne coached the member for Vasse before he was interviewed by the CCC. If such a thing had happened on this side of the house, I would have taken the action that I took against Norm Marlborough. In fact, it is absolutely breathtakingly hypocritical that the member for Vasse is sitting over there, with all this now on the public record, and no action whatsoever has been taken against him by the Leader of the Liberal Party - none. It is breathtaking. It is clearly improper, if not illegal. They sought to undermine the activity of the CCC. Mr C.J. Barnett : In your opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes. Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Orders, members! I call the member for Nedlands and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the first time. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is what Mr Crichton-Browne told the CCC - I said words to the effect, “Troy, if I’m ever asked about that conversation I’ll tell them the truth,” and I think I said, “It was a perfectly civilised conversation and I asked nothing of you.” Mr Crichton-Browne suggested that answer to the member for Vasse. There was clear collusion between the two of them about their evidence. Noel Crichton-Browne coached the member for Vasse before he was interviewed by the CCC. If such a thing had happened on this side of the house, I would have taken the action that I took against Norm Marlborough. In fact, it is absolutely breathtakingly hypocritical that the member for Vasse is sitting over there, with all this now on the public record, and no action whatsoever has been taken against him by the Leader of the Liberal Party - none. It is breathtaking. It is clearly improper, if not illegal. They sought to undermine the activity of the CCC. Mr C.J. Barnett : In your opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes. Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
The SPEAKER : Orders, members! I call the member for Nedlands and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the first time. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is what Mr Crichton-Browne told the CCC - I said words to the effect, “Troy, if I’m ever asked about that conversation I’ll tell them the truth,” and I think I said, “It was a perfectly civilised conversation and I asked nothing of you.” Mr Crichton-Browne suggested that answer to the member for Vasse. There was clear collusion between the two of them about their evidence. Noel Crichton-Browne coached the member for Vasse before he was interviewed by the CCC. If such a thing had happened on this side of the house, I would have taken the action that I took against Norm Marlborough. In fact, it is absolutely breathtakingly hypocritical that the member for Vasse is sitting over there, with all this now on the public record, and no action whatsoever has been taken against him by the Leader of the Liberal Party - none. It is breathtaking. It is clearly improper, if not illegal. They sought to undermine the activity of the CCC. Mr C.J. Barnett : In your opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes. Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is what Mr Crichton-Browne told the CCC - I said words to the effect, “Troy, if I’m ever asked about that conversation I’ll tell them the truth,” and I think I said, “It was a perfectly civilised conversation and I asked nothing of you.” Mr Crichton-Browne suggested that answer to the member for Vasse. There was clear collusion between the two of them about their evidence. Noel Crichton-Browne coached the member for Vasse before he was interviewed by the CCC. If such a thing had happened on this side of the house, I would have taken the action that I took against Norm Marlborough. In fact, it is absolutely breathtakingly hypocritical that the member for Vasse is sitting over there, with all this now on the public record, and no action whatsoever has been taken against him by the Leader of the Liberal Party - none. It is breathtaking. It is clearly improper, if not illegal. They sought to undermine the activity of the CCC. Mr C.J. Barnett : In your opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes. Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Mr C.J. Barnett : In your opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes. Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes. Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: I thank the member for the question. Before I respond, I acknowledge in the public gallery students from Our Lady of Good Counsel, Karrinyup. I also welcome the principal, Jean Blechynden, and students of Balga Primary School; and year 10 justice and law students from Mt Lawley Senior High School - they will find this interesting - who were brought along by their local member, the member for Perth. Welcome to the Parliament. Take note, children! This is what is called hypocrisy in its grandest form in politics! Withdrawal of Remark Mr C.J. BARNETT : That was a deliberate slight on the Leader of the Opposition, in front of children, and the use of the word “hypocrisy” was clearly unparliamentary. The SPEAKER : Members, the use of the word “hypocrisy” definitely falls into the area of unparliamentary language. However, in the context in which the word was used, it was not directed at a particular person. Although it is close to the wind, it is not unparliamentary. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I would soon run out of adjectives, would I not? The Leader of the Opposition said in this place yesterday, quite remarkably, that I had done absolutely nothing to restore any confidence in the system of politics in Western Australia. Then he went on to detail what I had done and said, “But you had no alternative.” Following the evidence to the Corruption and Crime Commission on 8 November, it was clear that the then member for Peel had not honoured his unequivocal commitment to me, made when he became a minister, that he would be able to keep his responsibilities as a minister and his friendship and relationship with Brian Burke separate. I believe that the evidence to the CCC was compelling and overwhelming, and I asked for his resignation from state cabinet. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Why didn’t you sack him? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did the member say? Mr M.W. Trenorden : You asked for his resignation. Why didn’t you sack him? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : We have some intellectual giants running around this place, have we not? I asked for his resignation from state cabinet. Furthermore, I told him that I did not believe there was any future for him in the state Labor Party and he should not come back to the Parliament, and he did not. Also, I made it clear to the Labor Party - I said this yesterday - that Brian Burke had to go from the Labor Party; I said that if the party did not move to begin expulsion, or he did not resign, I could not continue as the Leader of the Labor Party. Mr P.D. Omodei : Why didn’t you make the same commitment about Norm Marlborough? Why hasn’t he been expelled? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will get to the Leader of the Opposition in a minute. Brian Burke has now resigned from the Labor Party. We are establishing a register of lobbyists, much to the chagrin of some people in the business community. However, unfortunately, it is necessary. We will establish a register of lobbyists. Brian Burke and Julian Grill will not be on that register, because they have already shown, as a partnership, that they would not meet the requirements. I have taken strong and decisive action after hearing that CCC evidence. Can the same thing be said for the Leader of the Liberal Party? This is what the CCC has uncovered in relation to the Leader of the Liberal Party, his team and his deputy. The member for Vasse and Noel Crichton-Browne met in a car in the car park at Parliament House in the days before the member was interviewed by the CCC. That is correct, is it not? That is correct. In that meeting, the member for Vasse told Mr Crichton-Browne that he was to be interviewed by the CCC. He also told him that it was about a meeting between the two of them in 2003, and that an allegation had been made that Mr Crichton-Browne had threatened the member for Vasse at that meeting. Some time after his interview with the CCC, the member for Vasse spoke to Mr Crichton-Browne about his interview. I ask the house to reflect on what I have just outlined. The member for Vasse was asked to give evidence to the CCC about a meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne pertaining to the Canal Rocks development and the possibility of corruption. Somehow or other, the fact that he was to go to the CCC to give evidence became known to Noel Crichton-Browne, and they met secretly in a car in the car park at Parliament House - secretly. They discussed, on the evidence given by both of them to the CCC, the evidence that they will provide to the CCC. In fact, Mr Crichton-Browne went so far as to suggest some answers, which sounds a little like coaching, or, in other words, collusion. Is that in accordance with the law? This is what Mr Crichton-Browne - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Orders, members! I call the member for Nedlands and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the first time. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is what Mr Crichton-Browne told the CCC - I said words to the effect, “Troy, if I’m ever asked about that conversation I’ll tell them the truth,” and I think I said, “It was a perfectly civilised conversation and I asked nothing of you.” Mr Crichton-Browne suggested that answer to the member for Vasse. There was clear collusion between the two of them about their evidence. Noel Crichton-Browne coached the member for Vasse before he was interviewed by the CCC. If such a thing had happened on this side of the house, I would have taken the action that I took against Norm Marlborough. In fact, it is absolutely breathtakingly hypocritical that the member for Vasse is sitting over there, with all this now on the public record, and no action whatsoever has been taken against him by the Leader of the Liberal Party - none. It is breathtaking. It is clearly improper, if not illegal. They sought to undermine the activity of the CCC. Mr C.J. Barnett : In your opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes. Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
I thank the member for the question. Before I respond, I acknowledge in the public gallery students from Our Lady of Good Counsel, Karrinyup. I also welcome the principal, Jean Blechynden, and students of Balga Primary School; and year 10 justice and law students from Mt Lawley Senior High School - they will find this interesting - who were brought along by their local member, the member for Perth. Welcome to the Parliament. Take note, children! This is what is called hypocrisy in its grandest form in politics! Withdrawal of Remark Mr C.J. BARNETT : That was a deliberate slight on the Leader of the Opposition, in front of children, and the use of the word “hypocrisy” was clearly unparliamentary. The SPEAKER : Members, the use of the word “hypocrisy” definitely falls into the area of unparliamentary language. However, in the context in which the word was used, it was not directed at a particular person. Although it is close to the wind, it is not unparliamentary. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I would soon run out of adjectives, would I not? The Leader of the Opposition said in this place yesterday, quite remarkably, that I had done absolutely nothing to restore any confidence in the system of politics in Western Australia. Then he went on to detail what I had done and said, “But you had no alternative.” Following the evidence to the Corruption and Crime Commission on 8 November, it was clear that the then member for Peel had not honoured his unequivocal commitment to me, made when he became a minister, that he would be able to keep his responsibilities as a minister and his friendship and relationship with Brian Burke separate. I believe that the evidence to the CCC was compelling and overwhelming, and I asked for his resignation from state cabinet. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Why didn’t you sack him? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did the member say? Mr M.W. Trenorden : You asked for his resignation. Why didn’t you sack him? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : We have some intellectual giants running around this place, have we not? I asked for his resignation from state cabinet. Furthermore, I told him that I did not believe there was any future for him in the state Labor Party and he should not come back to the Parliament, and he did not. Also, I made it clear to the Labor Party - I said this yesterday - that Brian Burke had to go from the Labor Party; I said that if the party did not move to begin expulsion, or he did not resign, I could not continue as the Leader of the Labor Party. Mr P.D. Omodei : Why didn’t you make the same commitment about Norm Marlborough? Why hasn’t he been expelled? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will get to the Leader of the Opposition in a minute. Brian Burke has now resigned from the Labor Party. We are establishing a register of lobbyists, much to the chagrin of some people in the business community. However, unfortunately, it is necessary. We will establish a register of lobbyists. Brian Burke and Julian Grill will not be on that register, because they have already shown, as a partnership, that they would not meet the requirements. I have taken strong and decisive action after hearing that CCC evidence. Can the same thing be said for the Leader of the Liberal Party? This is what the CCC has uncovered in relation to the Leader of the Liberal Party, his team and his deputy. The member for Vasse and Noel Crichton-Browne met in a car in the car park at Parliament House in the days before the member was interviewed by the CCC. That is correct, is it not? That is correct. In that meeting, the member for Vasse told Mr Crichton-Browne that he was to be interviewed by the CCC. He also told him that it was about a meeting between the two of them in 2003, and that an allegation had been made that Mr Crichton-Browne had threatened the member for Vasse at that meeting. Some time after his interview with the CCC, the member for Vasse spoke to Mr Crichton-Browne about his interview. I ask the house to reflect on what I have just outlined. The member for Vasse was asked to give evidence to the CCC about a meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne pertaining to the Canal Rocks development and the possibility of corruption. Somehow or other, the fact that he was to go to the CCC to give evidence became known to Noel Crichton-Browne, and they met secretly in a car in the car park at Parliament House - secretly. They discussed, on the evidence given by both of them to the CCC, the evidence that they will provide to the CCC. In fact, Mr Crichton-Browne went so far as to suggest some answers, which sounds a little like coaching, or, in other words, collusion. Is that in accordance with the law? This is what Mr Crichton-Browne - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Orders, members! I call the member for Nedlands and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the first time. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is what Mr Crichton-Browne told the CCC - I said words to the effect, “Troy, if I’m ever asked about that conversation I’ll tell them the truth,” and I think I said, “It was a perfectly civilised conversation and I asked nothing of you.” Mr Crichton-Browne suggested that answer to the member for Vasse. There was clear collusion between the two of them about their evidence. Noel Crichton-Browne coached the member for Vasse before he was interviewed by the CCC. If such a thing had happened on this side of the house, I would have taken the action that I took against Norm Marlborough. In fact, it is absolutely breathtakingly hypocritical that the member for Vasse is sitting over there, with all this now on the public record, and no action whatsoever has been taken against him by the Leader of the Liberal Party - none. It is breathtaking. It is clearly improper, if not illegal. They sought to undermine the activity of the CCC. Mr C.J. Barnett : In your opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes. Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Before I respond, I acknowledge in the public gallery students from Our Lady of Good Counsel, Karrinyup. I also welcome the principal, Jean Blechynden, and students of Balga Primary School; and year 10 justice and law students from Mt Lawley Senior High School - they will find this interesting - who were brought along by their local member, the member for Perth. Welcome to the Parliament. Take note, children! This is what is called hypocrisy in its grandest form in politics! Withdrawal of Remark Mr C.J. BARNETT : That was a deliberate slight on the Leader of the Opposition, in front of children, and the use of the word “hypocrisy” was clearly unparliamentary. The SPEAKER : Members, the use of the word “hypocrisy” definitely falls into the area of unparliamentary language. However, in the context in which the word was used, it was not directed at a particular person. Although it is close to the wind, it is not unparliamentary. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I would soon run out of adjectives, would I not? The Leader of the Opposition said in this place yesterday, quite remarkably, that I had done absolutely nothing to restore any confidence in the system of politics in Western Australia. Then he went on to detail what I had done and said, “But you had no alternative.” Following the evidence to the Corruption and Crime Commission on 8 November, it was clear that the then member for Peel had not honoured his unequivocal commitment to me, made when he became a minister, that he would be able to keep his responsibilities as a minister and his friendship and relationship with Brian Burke separate. I believe that the evidence to the CCC was compelling and overwhelming, and I asked for his resignation from state cabinet. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Why didn’t you sack him? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did the member say? Mr M.W. Trenorden : You asked for his resignation. Why didn’t you sack him? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : We have some intellectual giants running around this place, have we not? I asked for his resignation from state cabinet. Furthermore, I told him that I did not believe there was any future for him in the state Labor Party and he should not come back to the Parliament, and he did not. Also, I made it clear to the Labor Party - I said this yesterday - that Brian Burke had to go from the Labor Party; I said that if the party did not move to begin expulsion, or he did not resign, I could not continue as the Leader of the Labor Party. Mr P.D. Omodei : Why didn’t you make the same commitment about Norm Marlborough? Why hasn’t he been expelled? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will get to the Leader of the Opposition in a minute. Brian Burke has now resigned from the Labor Party. We are establishing a register of lobbyists, much to the chagrin of some people in the business community. However, unfortunately, it is necessary. We will establish a register of lobbyists. Brian Burke and Julian Grill will not be on that register, because they have already shown, as a partnership, that they would not meet the requirements. I have taken strong and decisive action after hearing that CCC evidence. Can the same thing be said for the Leader of the Liberal Party? This is what the CCC has uncovered in relation to the Leader of the Liberal Party, his team and his deputy. The member for Vasse and Noel Crichton-Browne met in a car in the car park at Parliament House in the days before the member was interviewed by the CCC. That is correct, is it not? That is correct. In that meeting, the member for Vasse told Mr Crichton-Browne that he was to be interviewed by the CCC. He also told him that it was about a meeting between the two of them in 2003, and that an allegation had been made that Mr Crichton-Browne had threatened the member for Vasse at that meeting. Some time after his interview with the CCC, the member for Vasse spoke to Mr Crichton-Browne about his interview. I ask the house to reflect on what I have just outlined. The member for Vasse was asked to give evidence to the CCC about a meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne pertaining to the Canal Rocks development and the possibility of corruption. Somehow or other, the fact that he was to go to the CCC to give evidence became known to Noel Crichton-Browne, and they met secretly in a car in the car park at Parliament House - secretly. They discussed, on the evidence given by both of them to the CCC, the evidence that they will provide to the CCC. In fact, Mr Crichton-Browne went so far as to suggest some answers, which sounds a little like coaching, or, in other words, collusion. Is that in accordance with the law? This is what Mr Crichton-Browne - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Orders, members! I call the member for Nedlands and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the first time. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is what Mr Crichton-Browne told the CCC - I said words to the effect, “Troy, if I’m ever asked about that conversation I’ll tell them the truth,” and I think I said, “It was a perfectly civilised conversation and I asked nothing of you.” Mr Crichton-Browne suggested that answer to the member for Vasse. There was clear collusion between the two of them about their evidence. Noel Crichton-Browne coached the member for Vasse before he was interviewed by the CCC. If such a thing had happened on this side of the house, I would have taken the action that I took against Norm Marlborough. In fact, it is absolutely breathtakingly hypocritical that the member for Vasse is sitting over there, with all this now on the public record, and no action whatsoever has been taken against him by the Leader of the Liberal Party - none. It is breathtaking. It is clearly improper, if not illegal. They sought to undermine the activity of the CCC. Mr C.J. Barnett : In your opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes. Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
The SPEAKER : Members, the use of the word “hypocrisy” definitely falls into the area of unparliamentary language. However, in the context in which the word was used, it was not directed at a particular person. Although it is close to the wind, it is not unparliamentary. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I would soon run out of adjectives, would I not? The Leader of the Opposition said in this place yesterday, quite remarkably, that I had done absolutely nothing to restore any confidence in the system of politics in Western Australia. Then he went on to detail what I had done and said, “But you had no alternative.” Following the evidence to the Corruption and Crime Commission on 8 November, it was clear that the then member for Peel had not honoured his unequivocal commitment to me, made when he became a minister, that he would be able to keep his responsibilities as a minister and his friendship and relationship with Brian Burke separate. I believe that the evidence to the CCC was compelling and overwhelming, and I asked for his resignation from state cabinet. Mr M.W. Trenorden : Why didn’t you sack him? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did the member say? Mr M.W. Trenorden : You asked for his resignation. Why didn’t you sack him? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : We have some intellectual giants running around this place, have we not? I asked for his resignation from state cabinet. Furthermore, I told him that I did not believe there was any future for him in the state Labor Party and he should not come back to the Parliament, and he did not. Also, I made it clear to the Labor Party - I said this yesterday - that Brian Burke had to go from the Labor Party; I said that if the party did not move to begin expulsion, or he did not resign, I could not continue as the Leader of the Labor Party. Mr P.D. Omodei : Why didn’t you make the same commitment about Norm Marlborough? Why hasn’t he been expelled? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will get to the Leader of the Opposition in a minute. Brian Burke has now resigned from the Labor Party. We are establishing a register of lobbyists, much to the chagrin of some people in the business community. However, unfortunately, it is necessary. We will establish a register of lobbyists. Brian Burke and Julian Grill will not be on that register, because they have already shown, as a partnership, that they would not meet the requirements. I have taken strong and decisive action after hearing that CCC evidence. Can the same thing be said for the Leader of the Liberal Party? This is what the CCC has uncovered in relation to the Leader of the Liberal Party, his team and his deputy. The member for Vasse and Noel Crichton-Browne met in a car in the car park at Parliament House in the days before the member was interviewed by the CCC. That is correct, is it not? That is correct. In that meeting, the member for Vasse told Mr Crichton-Browne that he was to be interviewed by the CCC. He also told him that it was about a meeting between the two of them in 2003, and that an allegation had been made that Mr Crichton-Browne had threatened the member for Vasse at that meeting. Some time after his interview with the CCC, the member for Vasse spoke to Mr Crichton-Browne about his interview. I ask the house to reflect on what I have just outlined. The member for Vasse was asked to give evidence to the CCC about a meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne pertaining to the Canal Rocks development and the possibility of corruption. Somehow or other, the fact that he was to go to the CCC to give evidence became known to Noel Crichton-Browne, and they met secretly in a car in the car park at Parliament House - secretly. They discussed, on the evidence given by both of them to the CCC, the evidence that they will provide to the CCC. In fact, Mr Crichton-Browne went so far as to suggest some answers, which sounds a little like coaching, or, in other words, collusion. Is that in accordance with the law? This is what Mr Crichton-Browne - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Orders, members! I call the member for Nedlands and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the first time. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is what Mr Crichton-Browne told the CCC - I said words to the effect, “Troy, if I’m ever asked about that conversation I’ll tell them the truth,” and I think I said, “It was a perfectly civilised conversation and I asked nothing of you.” Mr Crichton-Browne suggested that answer to the member for Vasse. There was clear collusion between the two of them about their evidence. Noel Crichton-Browne coached the member for Vasse before he was interviewed by the CCC. If such a thing had happened on this side of the house, I would have taken the action that I took against Norm Marlborough. In fact, it is absolutely breathtakingly hypocritical that the member for Vasse is sitting over there, with all this now on the public record, and no action whatsoever has been taken against him by the Leader of the Liberal Party - none. It is breathtaking. It is clearly improper, if not illegal. They sought to undermine the activity of the CCC. Mr C.J. Barnett : In your opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes. Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Mr M.W. Trenorden : Why didn’t you sack him? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did the member say? Mr M.W. Trenorden : You asked for his resignation. Why didn’t you sack him? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : We have some intellectual giants running around this place, have we not? I asked for his resignation from state cabinet. Furthermore, I told him that I did not believe there was any future for him in the state Labor Party and he should not come back to the Parliament, and he did not. Also, I made it clear to the Labor Party - I said this yesterday - that Brian Burke had to go from the Labor Party; I said that if the party did not move to begin expulsion, or he did not resign, I could not continue as the Leader of the Labor Party. Mr P.D. Omodei : Why didn’t you make the same commitment about Norm Marlborough? Why hasn’t he been expelled? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will get to the Leader of the Opposition in a minute. Brian Burke has now resigned from the Labor Party. We are establishing a register of lobbyists, much to the chagrin of some people in the business community. However, unfortunately, it is necessary. We will establish a register of lobbyists. Brian Burke and Julian Grill will not be on that register, because they have already shown, as a partnership, that they would not meet the requirements. I have taken strong and decisive action after hearing that CCC evidence. Can the same thing be said for the Leader of the Liberal Party? This is what the CCC has uncovered in relation to the Leader of the Liberal Party, his team and his deputy. The member for Vasse and Noel Crichton-Browne met in a car in the car park at Parliament House in the days before the member was interviewed by the CCC. That is correct, is it not? That is correct. In that meeting, the member for Vasse told Mr Crichton-Browne that he was to be interviewed by the CCC. He also told him that it was about a meeting between the two of them in 2003, and that an allegation had been made that Mr Crichton-Browne had threatened the member for Vasse at that meeting. Some time after his interview with the CCC, the member for Vasse spoke to Mr Crichton-Browne about his interview. I ask the house to reflect on what I have just outlined. The member for Vasse was asked to give evidence to the CCC about a meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne pertaining to the Canal Rocks development and the possibility of corruption. Somehow or other, the fact that he was to go to the CCC to give evidence became known to Noel Crichton-Browne, and they met secretly in a car in the car park at Parliament House - secretly. They discussed, on the evidence given by both of them to the CCC, the evidence that they will provide to the CCC. In fact, Mr Crichton-Browne went so far as to suggest some answers, which sounds a little like coaching, or, in other words, collusion. Is that in accordance with the law? This is what Mr Crichton-Browne - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Orders, members! I call the member for Nedlands and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the first time. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is what Mr Crichton-Browne told the CCC - I said words to the effect, “Troy, if I’m ever asked about that conversation I’ll tell them the truth,” and I think I said, “It was a perfectly civilised conversation and I asked nothing of you.” Mr Crichton-Browne suggested that answer to the member for Vasse. There was clear collusion between the two of them about their evidence. Noel Crichton-Browne coached the member for Vasse before he was interviewed by the CCC. If such a thing had happened on this side of the house, I would have taken the action that I took against Norm Marlborough. In fact, it is absolutely breathtakingly hypocritical that the member for Vasse is sitting over there, with all this now on the public record, and no action whatsoever has been taken against him by the Leader of the Liberal Party - none. It is breathtaking. It is clearly improper, if not illegal. They sought to undermine the activity of the CCC. Mr C.J. Barnett : In your opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes. Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did the member say? Mr M.W. Trenorden : You asked for his resignation. Why didn’t you sack him? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : We have some intellectual giants running around this place, have we not? I asked for his resignation from state cabinet. Furthermore, I told him that I did not believe there was any future for him in the state Labor Party and he should not come back to the Parliament, and he did not. Also, I made it clear to the Labor Party - I said this yesterday - that Brian Burke had to go from the Labor Party; I said that if the party did not move to begin expulsion, or he did not resign, I could not continue as the Leader of the Labor Party. Mr P.D. Omodei : Why didn’t you make the same commitment about Norm Marlborough? Why hasn’t he been expelled? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will get to the Leader of the Opposition in a minute. Brian Burke has now resigned from the Labor Party. We are establishing a register of lobbyists, much to the chagrin of some people in the business community. However, unfortunately, it is necessary. We will establish a register of lobbyists. Brian Burke and Julian Grill will not be on that register, because they have already shown, as a partnership, that they would not meet the requirements. I have taken strong and decisive action after hearing that CCC evidence. Can the same thing be said for the Leader of the Liberal Party? This is what the CCC has uncovered in relation to the Leader of the Liberal Party, his team and his deputy. The member for Vasse and Noel Crichton-Browne met in a car in the car park at Parliament House in the days before the member was interviewed by the CCC. That is correct, is it not? That is correct. In that meeting, the member for Vasse told Mr Crichton-Browne that he was to be interviewed by the CCC. He also told him that it was about a meeting between the two of them in 2003, and that an allegation had been made that Mr Crichton-Browne had threatened the member for Vasse at that meeting. Some time after his interview with the CCC, the member for Vasse spoke to Mr Crichton-Browne about his interview. I ask the house to reflect on what I have just outlined. The member for Vasse was asked to give evidence to the CCC about a meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne pertaining to the Canal Rocks development and the possibility of corruption. Somehow or other, the fact that he was to go to the CCC to give evidence became known to Noel Crichton-Browne, and they met secretly in a car in the car park at Parliament House - secretly. They discussed, on the evidence given by both of them to the CCC, the evidence that they will provide to the CCC. In fact, Mr Crichton-Browne went so far as to suggest some answers, which sounds a little like coaching, or, in other words, collusion. Is that in accordance with the law? This is what Mr Crichton-Browne - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Orders, members! I call the member for Nedlands and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the first time. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is what Mr Crichton-Browne told the CCC - I said words to the effect, “Troy, if I’m ever asked about that conversation I’ll tell them the truth,” and I think I said, “It was a perfectly civilised conversation and I asked nothing of you.” Mr Crichton-Browne suggested that answer to the member for Vasse. There was clear collusion between the two of them about their evidence. Noel Crichton-Browne coached the member for Vasse before he was interviewed by the CCC. If such a thing had happened on this side of the house, I would have taken the action that I took against Norm Marlborough. In fact, it is absolutely breathtakingly hypocritical that the member for Vasse is sitting over there, with all this now on the public record, and no action whatsoever has been taken against him by the Leader of the Liberal Party - none. It is breathtaking. It is clearly improper, if not illegal. They sought to undermine the activity of the CCC. Mr C.J. Barnett : In your opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes. Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Mr M.W. Trenorden : You asked for his resignation. Why didn’t you sack him? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : We have some intellectual giants running around this place, have we not? I asked for his resignation from state cabinet. Furthermore, I told him that I did not believe there was any future for him in the state Labor Party and he should not come back to the Parliament, and he did not. Also, I made it clear to the Labor Party - I said this yesterday - that Brian Burke had to go from the Labor Party; I said that if the party did not move to begin expulsion, or he did not resign, I could not continue as the Leader of the Labor Party. Mr P.D. Omodei : Why didn’t you make the same commitment about Norm Marlborough? Why hasn’t he been expelled? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will get to the Leader of the Opposition in a minute. Brian Burke has now resigned from the Labor Party. We are establishing a register of lobbyists, much to the chagrin of some people in the business community. However, unfortunately, it is necessary. We will establish a register of lobbyists. Brian Burke and Julian Grill will not be on that register, because they have already shown, as a partnership, that they would not meet the requirements. I have taken strong and decisive action after hearing that CCC evidence. Can the same thing be said for the Leader of the Liberal Party? This is what the CCC has uncovered in relation to the Leader of the Liberal Party, his team and his deputy. The member for Vasse and Noel Crichton-Browne met in a car in the car park at Parliament House in the days before the member was interviewed by the CCC. That is correct, is it not? That is correct. In that meeting, the member for Vasse told Mr Crichton-Browne that he was to be interviewed by the CCC. He also told him that it was about a meeting between the two of them in 2003, and that an allegation had been made that Mr Crichton-Browne had threatened the member for Vasse at that meeting. Some time after his interview with the CCC, the member for Vasse spoke to Mr Crichton-Browne about his interview. I ask the house to reflect on what I have just outlined. The member for Vasse was asked to give evidence to the CCC about a meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne pertaining to the Canal Rocks development and the possibility of corruption. Somehow or other, the fact that he was to go to the CCC to give evidence became known to Noel Crichton-Browne, and they met secretly in a car in the car park at Parliament House - secretly. They discussed, on the evidence given by both of them to the CCC, the evidence that they will provide to the CCC. In fact, Mr Crichton-Browne went so far as to suggest some answers, which sounds a little like coaching, or, in other words, collusion. Is that in accordance with the law? This is what Mr Crichton-Browne - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Orders, members! I call the member for Nedlands and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the first time. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is what Mr Crichton-Browne told the CCC - I said words to the effect, “Troy, if I’m ever asked about that conversation I’ll tell them the truth,” and I think I said, “It was a perfectly civilised conversation and I asked nothing of you.” Mr Crichton-Browne suggested that answer to the member for Vasse. There was clear collusion between the two of them about their evidence. Noel Crichton-Browne coached the member for Vasse before he was interviewed by the CCC. If such a thing had happened on this side of the house, I would have taken the action that I took against Norm Marlborough. In fact, it is absolutely breathtakingly hypocritical that the member for Vasse is sitting over there, with all this now on the public record, and no action whatsoever has been taken against him by the Leader of the Liberal Party - none. It is breathtaking. It is clearly improper, if not illegal. They sought to undermine the activity of the CCC. Mr C.J. Barnett : In your opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes. Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : We have some intellectual giants running around this place, have we not? I asked for his resignation from state cabinet. Furthermore, I told him that I did not believe there was any future for him in the state Labor Party and he should not come back to the Parliament, and he did not. Also, I made it clear to the Labor Party - I said this yesterday - that Brian Burke had to go from the Labor Party; I said that if the party did not move to begin expulsion, or he did not resign, I could not continue as the Leader of the Labor Party. Mr P.D. Omodei : Why didn’t you make the same commitment about Norm Marlborough? Why hasn’t he been expelled? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will get to the Leader of the Opposition in a minute. Brian Burke has now resigned from the Labor Party. We are establishing a register of lobbyists, much to the chagrin of some people in the business community. However, unfortunately, it is necessary. We will establish a register of lobbyists. Brian Burke and Julian Grill will not be on that register, because they have already shown, as a partnership, that they would not meet the requirements. I have taken strong and decisive action after hearing that CCC evidence. Can the same thing be said for the Leader of the Liberal Party? This is what the CCC has uncovered in relation to the Leader of the Liberal Party, his team and his deputy. The member for Vasse and Noel Crichton-Browne met in a car in the car park at Parliament House in the days before the member was interviewed by the CCC. That is correct, is it not? That is correct. In that meeting, the member for Vasse told Mr Crichton-Browne that he was to be interviewed by the CCC. He also told him that it was about a meeting between the two of them in 2003, and that an allegation had been made that Mr Crichton-Browne had threatened the member for Vasse at that meeting. Some time after his interview with the CCC, the member for Vasse spoke to Mr Crichton-Browne about his interview. I ask the house to reflect on what I have just outlined. The member for Vasse was asked to give evidence to the CCC about a meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne pertaining to the Canal Rocks development and the possibility of corruption. Somehow or other, the fact that he was to go to the CCC to give evidence became known to Noel Crichton-Browne, and they met secretly in a car in the car park at Parliament House - secretly. They discussed, on the evidence given by both of them to the CCC, the evidence that they will provide to the CCC. In fact, Mr Crichton-Browne went so far as to suggest some answers, which sounds a little like coaching, or, in other words, collusion. Is that in accordance with the law? This is what Mr Crichton-Browne - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Orders, members! I call the member for Nedlands and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the first time. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is what Mr Crichton-Browne told the CCC - I said words to the effect, “Troy, if I’m ever asked about that conversation I’ll tell them the truth,” and I think I said, “It was a perfectly civilised conversation and I asked nothing of you.” Mr Crichton-Browne suggested that answer to the member for Vasse. There was clear collusion between the two of them about their evidence. Noel Crichton-Browne coached the member for Vasse before he was interviewed by the CCC. If such a thing had happened on this side of the house, I would have taken the action that I took against Norm Marlborough. In fact, it is absolutely breathtakingly hypocritical that the member for Vasse is sitting over there, with all this now on the public record, and no action whatsoever has been taken against him by the Leader of the Liberal Party - none. It is breathtaking. It is clearly improper, if not illegal. They sought to undermine the activity of the CCC. Mr C.J. Barnett : In your opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes. Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Mr P.D. Omodei : Why didn’t you make the same commitment about Norm Marlborough? Why hasn’t he been expelled? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will get to the Leader of the Opposition in a minute. Brian Burke has now resigned from the Labor Party. We are establishing a register of lobbyists, much to the chagrin of some people in the business community. However, unfortunately, it is necessary. We will establish a register of lobbyists. Brian Burke and Julian Grill will not be on that register, because they have already shown, as a partnership, that they would not meet the requirements. I have taken strong and decisive action after hearing that CCC evidence. Can the same thing be said for the Leader of the Liberal Party? This is what the CCC has uncovered in relation to the Leader of the Liberal Party, his team and his deputy. The member for Vasse and Noel Crichton-Browne met in a car in the car park at Parliament House in the days before the member was interviewed by the CCC. That is correct, is it not? That is correct. In that meeting, the member for Vasse told Mr Crichton-Browne that he was to be interviewed by the CCC. He also told him that it was about a meeting between the two of them in 2003, and that an allegation had been made that Mr Crichton-Browne had threatened the member for Vasse at that meeting. Some time after his interview with the CCC, the member for Vasse spoke to Mr Crichton-Browne about his interview. I ask the house to reflect on what I have just outlined. The member for Vasse was asked to give evidence to the CCC about a meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne pertaining to the Canal Rocks development and the possibility of corruption. Somehow or other, the fact that he was to go to the CCC to give evidence became known to Noel Crichton-Browne, and they met secretly in a car in the car park at Parliament House - secretly. They discussed, on the evidence given by both of them to the CCC, the evidence that they will provide to the CCC. In fact, Mr Crichton-Browne went so far as to suggest some answers, which sounds a little like coaching, or, in other words, collusion. Is that in accordance with the law? This is what Mr Crichton-Browne - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Orders, members! I call the member for Nedlands and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the first time. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is what Mr Crichton-Browne told the CCC - I said words to the effect, “Troy, if I’m ever asked about that conversation I’ll tell them the truth,” and I think I said, “It was a perfectly civilised conversation and I asked nothing of you.” Mr Crichton-Browne suggested that answer to the member for Vasse. There was clear collusion between the two of them about their evidence. Noel Crichton-Browne coached the member for Vasse before he was interviewed by the CCC. If such a thing had happened on this side of the house, I would have taken the action that I took against Norm Marlborough. In fact, it is absolutely breathtakingly hypocritical that the member for Vasse is sitting over there, with all this now on the public record, and no action whatsoever has been taken against him by the Leader of the Liberal Party - none. It is breathtaking. It is clearly improper, if not illegal. They sought to undermine the activity of the CCC. Mr C.J. Barnett : In your opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes. Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will get to the Leader of the Opposition in a minute. Brian Burke has now resigned from the Labor Party. We are establishing a register of lobbyists, much to the chagrin of some people in the business community. However, unfortunately, it is necessary. We will establish a register of lobbyists. Brian Burke and Julian Grill will not be on that register, because they have already shown, as a partnership, that they would not meet the requirements. I have taken strong and decisive action after hearing that CCC evidence. Can the same thing be said for the Leader of the Liberal Party? This is what the CCC has uncovered in relation to the Leader of the Liberal Party, his team and his deputy. The member for Vasse and Noel Crichton-Browne met in a car in the car park at Parliament House in the days before the member was interviewed by the CCC. That is correct, is it not? That is correct. In that meeting, the member for Vasse told Mr Crichton-Browne that he was to be interviewed by the CCC. He also told him that it was about a meeting between the two of them in 2003, and that an allegation had been made that Mr Crichton-Browne had threatened the member for Vasse at that meeting. Some time after his interview with the CCC, the member for Vasse spoke to Mr Crichton-Browne about his interview. I ask the house to reflect on what I have just outlined. The member for Vasse was asked to give evidence to the CCC about a meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne pertaining to the Canal Rocks development and the possibility of corruption. Somehow or other, the fact that he was to go to the CCC to give evidence became known to Noel Crichton-Browne, and they met secretly in a car in the car park at Parliament House - secretly. They discussed, on the evidence given by both of them to the CCC, the evidence that they will provide to the CCC. In fact, Mr Crichton-Browne went so far as to suggest some answers, which sounds a little like coaching, or, in other words, collusion. Is that in accordance with the law? This is what Mr Crichton-Browne - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Orders, members! I call the member for Nedlands and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the first time. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is what Mr Crichton-Browne told the CCC - I said words to the effect, “Troy, if I’m ever asked about that conversation I’ll tell them the truth,” and I think I said, “It was a perfectly civilised conversation and I asked nothing of you.” Mr Crichton-Browne suggested that answer to the member for Vasse. There was clear collusion between the two of them about their evidence. Noel Crichton-Browne coached the member for Vasse before he was interviewed by the CCC. If such a thing had happened on this side of the house, I would have taken the action that I took against Norm Marlborough. In fact, it is absolutely breathtakingly hypocritical that the member for Vasse is sitting over there, with all this now on the public record, and no action whatsoever has been taken against him by the Leader of the Liberal Party - none. It is breathtaking. It is clearly improper, if not illegal. They sought to undermine the activity of the CCC. Mr C.J. Barnett : In your opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes. Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Can the same thing be said for the Leader of the Liberal Party? This is what the CCC has uncovered in relation to the Leader of the Liberal Party, his team and his deputy. The member for Vasse and Noel Crichton-Browne met in a car in the car park at Parliament House in the days before the member was interviewed by the CCC. That is correct, is it not? That is correct. In that meeting, the member for Vasse told Mr Crichton-Browne that he was to be interviewed by the CCC. He also told him that it was about a meeting between the two of them in 2003, and that an allegation had been made that Mr Crichton-Browne had threatened the member for Vasse at that meeting. Some time after his interview with the CCC, the member for Vasse spoke to Mr Crichton-Browne about his interview. I ask the house to reflect on what I have just outlined. The member for Vasse was asked to give evidence to the CCC about a meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne pertaining to the Canal Rocks development and the possibility of corruption. Somehow or other, the fact that he was to go to the CCC to give evidence became known to Noel Crichton-Browne, and they met secretly in a car in the car park at Parliament House - secretly. They discussed, on the evidence given by both of them to the CCC, the evidence that they will provide to the CCC. In fact, Mr Crichton-Browne went so far as to suggest some answers, which sounds a little like coaching, or, in other words, collusion. Is that in accordance with the law? This is what Mr Crichton-Browne - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Orders, members! I call the member for Nedlands and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the first time. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is what Mr Crichton-Browne told the CCC - I said words to the effect, “Troy, if I’m ever asked about that conversation I’ll tell them the truth,” and I think I said, “It was a perfectly civilised conversation and I asked nothing of you.” Mr Crichton-Browne suggested that answer to the member for Vasse. There was clear collusion between the two of them about their evidence. Noel Crichton-Browne coached the member for Vasse before he was interviewed by the CCC. If such a thing had happened on this side of the house, I would have taken the action that I took against Norm Marlborough. In fact, it is absolutely breathtakingly hypocritical that the member for Vasse is sitting over there, with all this now on the public record, and no action whatsoever has been taken against him by the Leader of the Liberal Party - none. It is breathtaking. It is clearly improper, if not illegal. They sought to undermine the activity of the CCC. Mr C.J. Barnett : In your opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes. Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
The member for Vasse was asked to give evidence to the CCC about a meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne pertaining to the Canal Rocks development and the possibility of corruption. Somehow or other, the fact that he was to go to the CCC to give evidence became known to Noel Crichton-Browne, and they met secretly in a car in the car park at Parliament House - secretly. They discussed, on the evidence given by both of them to the CCC, the evidence that they will provide to the CCC. In fact, Mr Crichton-Browne went so far as to suggest some answers, which sounds a little like coaching, or, in other words, collusion. Is that in accordance with the law? This is what Mr Crichton-Browne - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Orders, members! I call the member for Nedlands and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the first time. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is what Mr Crichton-Browne told the CCC - I said words to the effect, “Troy, if I’m ever asked about that conversation I’ll tell them the truth,” and I think I said, “It was a perfectly civilised conversation and I asked nothing of you.” Mr Crichton-Browne suggested that answer to the member for Vasse. There was clear collusion between the two of them about their evidence. Noel Crichton-Browne coached the member for Vasse before he was interviewed by the CCC. If such a thing had happened on this side of the house, I would have taken the action that I took against Norm Marlborough. In fact, it is absolutely breathtakingly hypocritical that the member for Vasse is sitting over there, with all this now on the public record, and no action whatsoever has been taken against him by the Leader of the Liberal Party - none. It is breathtaking. It is clearly improper, if not illegal. They sought to undermine the activity of the CCC. Mr C.J. Barnett : In your opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes. Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Orders, members! I call the member for Nedlands and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the first time. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is what Mr Crichton-Browne told the CCC - I said words to the effect, “Troy, if I’m ever asked about that conversation I’ll tell them the truth,” and I think I said, “It was a perfectly civilised conversation and I asked nothing of you.” Mr Crichton-Browne suggested that answer to the member for Vasse. There was clear collusion between the two of them about their evidence. Noel Crichton-Browne coached the member for Vasse before he was interviewed by the CCC. If such a thing had happened on this side of the house, I would have taken the action that I took against Norm Marlborough. In fact, it is absolutely breathtakingly hypocritical that the member for Vasse is sitting over there, with all this now on the public record, and no action whatsoever has been taken against him by the Leader of the Liberal Party - none. It is breathtaking. It is clearly improper, if not illegal. They sought to undermine the activity of the CCC. Mr C.J. Barnett : In your opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes. Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
The SPEAKER : Orders, members! I call the member for Nedlands and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the first time. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is what Mr Crichton-Browne told the CCC - I said words to the effect, “Troy, if I’m ever asked about that conversation I’ll tell them the truth,” and I think I said, “It was a perfectly civilised conversation and I asked nothing of you.” Mr Crichton-Browne suggested that answer to the member for Vasse. There was clear collusion between the two of them about their evidence. Noel Crichton-Browne coached the member for Vasse before he was interviewed by the CCC. If such a thing had happened on this side of the house, I would have taken the action that I took against Norm Marlborough. In fact, it is absolutely breathtakingly hypocritical that the member for Vasse is sitting over there, with all this now on the public record, and no action whatsoever has been taken against him by the Leader of the Liberal Party - none. It is breathtaking. It is clearly improper, if not illegal. They sought to undermine the activity of the CCC. Mr C.J. Barnett : In your opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes. Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is what Mr Crichton-Browne told the CCC - I said words to the effect, “Troy, if I’m ever asked about that conversation I’ll tell them the truth,” and I think I said, “It was a perfectly civilised conversation and I asked nothing of you.” Mr Crichton-Browne suggested that answer to the member for Vasse. There was clear collusion between the two of them about their evidence. Noel Crichton-Browne coached the member for Vasse before he was interviewed by the CCC. If such a thing had happened on this side of the house, I would have taken the action that I took against Norm Marlborough. In fact, it is absolutely breathtakingly hypocritical that the member for Vasse is sitting over there, with all this now on the public record, and no action whatsoever has been taken against him by the Leader of the Liberal Party - none. It is breathtaking. It is clearly improper, if not illegal. They sought to undermine the activity of the CCC. Mr C.J. Barnett : In your opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes. Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Mr C.J. Barnett : In your opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes. Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes. Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Mr C.J. Barnett : Who are you? Hardly the CCC. Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Mr A.D. McRae : He’s only the Premier! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What is the shadow Attorney General’s view? Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Ms S.E. Walker : I think you’re a bit full of yourself. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Does the shadow Attorney General agree with me? Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
Ms S.E. Walker : I don’t listen to what you want to say.
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