❓ Mr Wyatt questions the Minister for Education regarding funding cuts to conductive education at Carson Street School, the Minister's public statements, and her lack of engagement with parents and children involved in the program. The Minister defends her position by citing a lack of hard evidence supporting the program's effectiveness and states she is still reviewing the report.
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CARSON STREET SCHOOL — CONDUCTIVE EDUCATION REVIEW
I refer to the future of conductive education at Carson Street School, and to the minister’s answer in Parliament yesterday. (1) Does the director general’s recommendation, which the minister states she received on 13 June, support the letter from David Axworthy cutting the funding for conductive education at Carson Street School? (2) Can the minister confirm her comment to the media that it is her view that, “There is no evidence to suggest that this is a program worthy of our continued financial support”; and does this mean that the minister has already made her decision? (3) Can the minister explain why she did not talk to the parents and the children yesterday to learn at first hand their experience and the benefits they have gained under the program? Dr E. CONSTABLE
I refer to the future of conductive education at Carson Street School, and to the minister’s answer in Parliament yesterday. (1) Does the director general’s recommendation, which the minister states she received on 13 June, support the letter from David Axworthy cutting the funding for conductive education at Carson Street School? (2) Can the minister confirm her comment to the media that it is her view that, “There is no evidence to suggest that this is a program worthy of our continued financial support”; and does this mean that the minister has already made her decision? (3) Can the minister explain why she did not talk to the parents and the children yesterday to learn at first hand their experience and the benefits they have gained under the program? Dr E. CONSTABLE
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(1)–(3) No, there is no hard evidence in the many evaluations of conductive education that it is as effective as people would say. I have not finished reading the report, but I have read some of the report. Clearly, for many parents in the early years, particularly the preschool years zero to four, there is some anecdotal evidence that it is very helpful to parents to be involved in that program. I am still considering that report, because I have not finished reading it; it is a long report. Mr B.S. Wyatt : It is in their media release that you would have got. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I beg your pardon! Mr B.S. Wyatt : The fact that they were meeting there was in their media release. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Why would I have got that? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I wonder how? It is funny how you could come down and comment to the media, but could not come down to meet with them. Mr C.J. Barnett : Did you invite the minister to meet with them, member for Victoria Park? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I didn’t organise the protest, Premier. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Of course the member for Victoria Park did not. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you members! Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the third time. A question has been asked by the member for Victoria Park; I do not want anyone else answering the question other than the Minister for Education. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really wanted to do something about this — Ms R. Saffioti : If you really cared, you would have gone down. The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
(1) Does the director general’s recommendation, which the minister states she received on 13 June, support the letter from David Axworthy cutting the funding for conductive education at Carson Street School? (2) Can the minister confirm her comment to the media that it is her view that, “There is no evidence to suggest that this is a program worthy of our continued financial support”; and does this mean that the minister has already made her decision? (3) Can the minister explain why she did not talk to the parents and the children yesterday to learn at first hand their experience and the benefits they have gained under the program? Dr E. CONSTABLE replied: (1)–(3) No, there is no hard evidence in the many evaluations of conductive education that it is as effective as people would say. I have not finished reading the report, but I have read some of the report. Clearly, for many parents in the early years, particularly the preschool years zero to four, there is some anecdotal evidence that it is very helpful to parents to be involved in that program. I am still considering that report, because I have not finished reading it; it is a long report. Mr B.S. Wyatt : It is in their media release that you would have got. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I beg your pardon! Mr B.S. Wyatt : The fact that they were meeting there was in their media release. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Why would I have got that? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I wonder how? It is funny how you could come down and comment to the media, but could not come down to meet with them. Mr C.J. Barnett : Did you invite the minister to meet with them, member for Victoria Park? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I didn’t organise the protest, Premier. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Of course the member for Victoria Park did not. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you members! Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the third time. A question has been asked by the member for Victoria Park; I do not want anyone else answering the question other than the Minister for Education. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really wanted to do something about this — Ms R. Saffioti : If you really cared, you would have gone down. The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
(2) Can the minister confirm her comment to the media that it is her view that, “There is no evidence to suggest that this is a program worthy of our continued financial support”; and does this mean that the minister has already made her decision? (3) Can the minister explain why she did not talk to the parents and the children yesterday to learn at first hand their experience and the benefits they have gained under the program? Dr E. CONSTABLE replied: (1)–(3) No, there is no hard evidence in the many evaluations of conductive education that it is as effective as people would say. I have not finished reading the report, but I have read some of the report. Clearly, for many parents in the early years, particularly the preschool years zero to four, there is some anecdotal evidence that it is very helpful to parents to be involved in that program. I am still considering that report, because I have not finished reading it; it is a long report. Mr B.S. Wyatt : It is in their media release that you would have got. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I beg your pardon! Mr B.S. Wyatt : The fact that they were meeting there was in their media release. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Why would I have got that? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I wonder how? It is funny how you could come down and comment to the media, but could not come down to meet with them. Mr C.J. Barnett : Did you invite the minister to meet with them, member for Victoria Park? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I didn’t organise the protest, Premier. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Of course the member for Victoria Park did not. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you members! Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the third time. A question has been asked by the member for Victoria Park; I do not want anyone else answering the question other than the Minister for Education. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really wanted to do something about this — Ms R. Saffioti : If you really cared, you would have gone down. The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
(3) Can the minister explain why she did not talk to the parents and the children yesterday to learn at first hand their experience and the benefits they have gained under the program? Dr E. CONSTABLE replied: (1)–(3) No, there is no hard evidence in the many evaluations of conductive education that it is as effective as people would say. I have not finished reading the report, but I have read some of the report. Clearly, for many parents in the early years, particularly the preschool years zero to four, there is some anecdotal evidence that it is very helpful to parents to be involved in that program. I am still considering that report, because I have not finished reading it; it is a long report. Mr B.S. Wyatt : It is in their media release that you would have got. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I beg your pardon! Mr B.S. Wyatt : The fact that they were meeting there was in their media release. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Why would I have got that? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I wonder how? It is funny how you could come down and comment to the media, but could not come down to meet with them. Mr C.J. Barnett : Did you invite the minister to meet with them, member for Victoria Park? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I didn’t organise the protest, Premier. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Of course the member for Victoria Park did not. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you members! Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the third time. A question has been asked by the member for Victoria Park; I do not want anyone else answering the question other than the Minister for Education. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really wanted to do something about this — Ms R. Saffioti : If you really cared, you would have gone down. The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
Dr E. CONSTABLE replied: (1)–(3) No, there is no hard evidence in the many evaluations of conductive education that it is as effective as people would say. I have not finished reading the report, but I have read some of the report. Clearly, for many parents in the early years, particularly the preschool years zero to four, there is some anecdotal evidence that it is very helpful to parents to be involved in that program. I am still considering that report, because I have not finished reading it; it is a long report. Mr B.S. Wyatt : It is in their media release that you would have got. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I beg your pardon! Mr B.S. Wyatt : The fact that they were meeting there was in their media release. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Why would I have got that? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I wonder how? It is funny how you could come down and comment to the media, but could not come down to meet with them. Mr C.J. Barnett : Did you invite the minister to meet with them, member for Victoria Park? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I didn’t organise the protest, Premier. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Of course the member for Victoria Park did not. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you members! Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the third time. A question has been asked by the member for Victoria Park; I do not want anyone else answering the question other than the Minister for Education. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really wanted to do something about this — Ms R. Saffioti : If you really cared, you would have gone down. The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
(1)–(3) No, there is no hard evidence in the many evaluations of conductive education that it is as effective as people would say. I have not finished reading the report, but I have read some of the report. Clearly, for many parents in the early years, particularly the preschool years zero to four, there is some anecdotal evidence that it is very helpful to parents to be involved in that program. I am still considering that report, because I have not finished reading it; it is a long report. Mr B.S. Wyatt : It is in their media release that you would have got. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I beg your pardon! Mr B.S. Wyatt : The fact that they were meeting there was in their media release. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Why would I have got that? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I wonder how? It is funny how you could come down and comment to the media, but could not come down to meet with them. Mr C.J. Barnett : Did you invite the minister to meet with them, member for Victoria Park? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I didn’t organise the protest, Premier. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Of course the member for Victoria Park did not. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you members! Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the third time. A question has been asked by the member for Victoria Park; I do not want anyone else answering the question other than the Minister for Education. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really wanted to do something about this — Ms R. Saffioti : If you really cared, you would have gone down. The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
Mr B.S. Wyatt : It is in their media release that you would have got. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I beg your pardon! Mr B.S. Wyatt : The fact that they were meeting there was in their media release. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Why would I have got that? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I wonder how? It is funny how you could come down and comment to the media, but could not come down to meet with them. Mr C.J. Barnett : Did you invite the minister to meet with them, member for Victoria Park? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I didn’t organise the protest, Premier. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Of course the member for Victoria Park did not. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you members! Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the third time. A question has been asked by the member for Victoria Park; I do not want anyone else answering the question other than the Minister for Education. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really wanted to do something about this — Ms R. Saffioti : If you really cared, you would have gone down. The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : I beg your pardon! Mr B.S. Wyatt : The fact that they were meeting there was in their media release. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Why would I have got that? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I wonder how? It is funny how you could come down and comment to the media, but could not come down to meet with them. Mr C.J. Barnett : Did you invite the minister to meet with them, member for Victoria Park? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I didn’t organise the protest, Premier. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Of course the member for Victoria Park did not. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you members! Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the third time. A question has been asked by the member for Victoria Park; I do not want anyone else answering the question other than the Minister for Education. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really wanted to do something about this — Ms R. Saffioti : If you really cared, you would have gone down. The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
Mr B.S. Wyatt : The fact that they were meeting there was in their media release. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Why would I have got that? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I wonder how? It is funny how you could come down and comment to the media, but could not come down to meet with them. Mr C.J. Barnett : Did you invite the minister to meet with them, member for Victoria Park? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I didn’t organise the protest, Premier. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Of course the member for Victoria Park did not. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you members! Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the third time. A question has been asked by the member for Victoria Park; I do not want anyone else answering the question other than the Minister for Education. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really wanted to do something about this — Ms R. Saffioti : If you really cared, you would have gone down. The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : Why would I have got that? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I wonder how? It is funny how you could come down and comment to the media, but could not come down to meet with them. Mr C.J. Barnett : Did you invite the minister to meet with them, member for Victoria Park? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I didn’t organise the protest, Premier. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Of course the member for Victoria Park did not. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you members! Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the third time. A question has been asked by the member for Victoria Park; I do not want anyone else answering the question other than the Minister for Education. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really wanted to do something about this — Ms R. Saffioti : If you really cared, you would have gone down. The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
Mr B.S. Wyatt : I wonder how? It is funny how you could come down and comment to the media, but could not come down to meet with them. Mr C.J. Barnett : Did you invite the minister to meet with them, member for Victoria Park? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I didn’t organise the protest, Premier. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Of course the member for Victoria Park did not. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you members! Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the third time. A question has been asked by the member for Victoria Park; I do not want anyone else answering the question other than the Minister for Education. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really wanted to do something about this — Ms R. Saffioti : If you really cared, you would have gone down. The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
Mr C.J. Barnett : Did you invite the minister to meet with them, member for Victoria Park? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I didn’t organise the protest, Premier. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Of course the member for Victoria Park did not. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you members! Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the third time. A question has been asked by the member for Victoria Park; I do not want anyone else answering the question other than the Minister for Education. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really wanted to do something about this — Ms R. Saffioti : If you really cared, you would have gone down. The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
Mr B.S. Wyatt : I didn’t organise the protest, Premier. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Of course the member for Victoria Park did not. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you members! Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the third time. A question has been asked by the member for Victoria Park; I do not want anyone else answering the question other than the Minister for Education. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really wanted to do something about this — Ms R. Saffioti : If you really cared, you would have gone down. The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : Of course the member for Victoria Park did not. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you members! Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the third time. A question has been asked by the member for Victoria Park; I do not want anyone else answering the question other than the Minister for Education. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really wanted to do something about this — Ms R. Saffioti : If you really cared, you would have gone down. The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you members! Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the third time. A question has been asked by the member for Victoria Park; I do not want anyone else answering the question other than the Minister for Education. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really wanted to do something about this — Ms R. Saffioti : If you really cared, you would have gone down. The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
The SPEAKER : Thank you members! Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the third time. A question has been asked by the member for Victoria Park; I do not want anyone else answering the question other than the Minister for Education. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really wanted to do something about this — Ms R. Saffioti : If you really cared, you would have gone down. The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really wanted to do something about this — Ms R. Saffioti : If you really cared, you would have gone down. The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
Ms R. Saffioti : If you really cared, you would have gone down. The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
(1) Does the director general’s recommendation, which the minister states she received on 13 June, support the letter from David Axworthy cutting the funding for conductive education at Carson Street School? (2) Can the minister confirm her comment to the media that it is her view that, “There is no evidence to suggest that this is a program worthy of our continued financial support”; and does this mean that the minister has already made her decision? (3) Can the minister explain why she did not talk to the parents and the children yesterday to learn at first hand their experience and the benefits they have gained under the program? Dr E. CONSTABLE replied: (1)–(3) No, there is no hard evidence in the many evaluations of conductive education that it is as effective as people would say. I have not finished reading the report, but I have read some of the report. Clearly, for many parents in the early years, particularly the preschool years zero to four, there is some anecdotal evidence that it is very helpful to parents to be involved in that program. I am still considering that report, because I have not finished reading it; it is a long report. Mr B.S. Wyatt : It is in their media release that you would have got. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I beg your pardon! Mr B.S. Wyatt : The fact that they were meeting there was in their media release. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Why would I have got that? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I wonder how? It is funny how you could come down and comment to the media, but could not come down to meet with them. Mr C.J. Barnett : Did you invite the minister to meet with them, member for Victoria Park? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I didn’t organise the protest, Premier. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Of course the member for Victoria Park did not. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you members! Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the third time. A question has been asked by the member for Victoria Park; I do not want anyone else answering the question other than the Minister for Education. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really wanted to do something about this — Ms R. Saffioti : If you really cared, you would have gone down. The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
(2) Can the minister confirm her comment to the media that it is her view that, “There is no evidence to suggest that this is a program worthy of our continued financial support”; and does this mean that the minister has already made her decision? (3) Can the minister explain why she did not talk to the parents and the children yesterday to learn at first hand their experience and the benefits they have gained under the program? Dr E. CONSTABLE replied: (1)–(3) No, there is no hard evidence in the many evaluations of conductive education that it is as effective as people would say. I have not finished reading the report, but I have read some of the report. Clearly, for many parents in the early years, particularly the preschool years zero to four, there is some anecdotal evidence that it is very helpful to parents to be involved in that program. I am still considering that report, because I have not finished reading it; it is a long report. Mr B.S. Wyatt : It is in their media release that you would have got. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I beg your pardon! Mr B.S. Wyatt : The fact that they were meeting there was in their media release. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Why would I have got that? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I wonder how? It is funny how you could come down and comment to the media, but could not come down to meet with them. Mr C.J. Barnett : Did you invite the minister to meet with them, member for Victoria Park? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I didn’t organise the protest, Premier. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Of course the member for Victoria Park did not. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you members! Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the third time. A question has been asked by the member for Victoria Park; I do not want anyone else answering the question other than the Minister for Education. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really wanted to do something about this — Ms R. Saffioti : If you really cared, you would have gone down. The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
(3) Can the minister explain why she did not talk to the parents and the children yesterday to learn at first hand their experience and the benefits they have gained under the program? Dr E. CONSTABLE replied: (1)–(3) No, there is no hard evidence in the many evaluations of conductive education that it is as effective as people would say. I have not finished reading the report, but I have read some of the report. Clearly, for many parents in the early years, particularly the preschool years zero to four, there is some anecdotal evidence that it is very helpful to parents to be involved in that program. I am still considering that report, because I have not finished reading it; it is a long report. Mr B.S. Wyatt : It is in their media release that you would have got. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I beg your pardon! Mr B.S. Wyatt : The fact that they were meeting there was in their media release. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Why would I have got that? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I wonder how? It is funny how you could come down and comment to the media, but could not come down to meet with them. Mr C.J. Barnett : Did you invite the minister to meet with them, member for Victoria Park? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I didn’t organise the protest, Premier. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Of course the member for Victoria Park did not. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you members! Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the third time. A question has been asked by the member for Victoria Park; I do not want anyone else answering the question other than the Minister for Education. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really wanted to do something about this — Ms R. Saffioti : If you really cared, you would have gone down. The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
Dr E. CONSTABLE replied: (1)–(3) No, there is no hard evidence in the many evaluations of conductive education that it is as effective as people would say. I have not finished reading the report, but I have read some of the report. Clearly, for many parents in the early years, particularly the preschool years zero to four, there is some anecdotal evidence that it is very helpful to parents to be involved in that program. I am still considering that report, because I have not finished reading it; it is a long report. Mr B.S. Wyatt : It is in their media release that you would have got. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I beg your pardon! Mr B.S. Wyatt : The fact that they were meeting there was in their media release. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Why would I have got that? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I wonder how? It is funny how you could come down and comment to the media, but could not come down to meet with them. Mr C.J. Barnett : Did you invite the minister to meet with them, member for Victoria Park? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I didn’t organise the protest, Premier. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Of course the member for Victoria Park did not. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you members! Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the third time. A question has been asked by the member for Victoria Park; I do not want anyone else answering the question other than the Minister for Education. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really wanted to do something about this — Ms R. Saffioti : If you really cared, you would have gone down. The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
(1)–(3) No, there is no hard evidence in the many evaluations of conductive education that it is as effective as people would say. I have not finished reading the report, but I have read some of the report. Clearly, for many parents in the early years, particularly the preschool years zero to four, there is some anecdotal evidence that it is very helpful to parents to be involved in that program. I am still considering that report, because I have not finished reading it; it is a long report. Mr B.S. Wyatt : It is in their media release that you would have got. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I beg your pardon! Mr B.S. Wyatt : The fact that they were meeting there was in their media release. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Why would I have got that? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I wonder how? It is funny how you could come down and comment to the media, but could not come down to meet with them. Mr C.J. Barnett : Did you invite the minister to meet with them, member for Victoria Park? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I didn’t organise the protest, Premier. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Of course the member for Victoria Park did not. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you members! Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the third time. A question has been asked by the member for Victoria Park; I do not want anyone else answering the question other than the Minister for Education. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really wanted to do something about this — Ms R. Saffioti : If you really cared, you would have gone down. The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
Mr B.S. Wyatt : It is in their media release that you would have got. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I beg your pardon! Mr B.S. Wyatt : The fact that they were meeting there was in their media release. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Why would I have got that? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I wonder how? It is funny how you could come down and comment to the media, but could not come down to meet with them. Mr C.J. Barnett : Did you invite the minister to meet with them, member for Victoria Park? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I didn’t organise the protest, Premier. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Of course the member for Victoria Park did not. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you members! Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the third time. A question has been asked by the member for Victoria Park; I do not want anyone else answering the question other than the Minister for Education. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really wanted to do something about this — Ms R. Saffioti : If you really cared, you would have gone down. The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : I beg your pardon! Mr B.S. Wyatt : The fact that they were meeting there was in their media release. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Why would I have got that? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I wonder how? It is funny how you could come down and comment to the media, but could not come down to meet with them. Mr C.J. Barnett : Did you invite the minister to meet with them, member for Victoria Park? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I didn’t organise the protest, Premier. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Of course the member for Victoria Park did not. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you members! Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the third time. A question has been asked by the member for Victoria Park; I do not want anyone else answering the question other than the Minister for Education. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really wanted to do something about this — Ms R. Saffioti : If you really cared, you would have gone down. The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
Mr B.S. Wyatt : The fact that they were meeting there was in their media release. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Why would I have got that? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I wonder how? It is funny how you could come down and comment to the media, but could not come down to meet with them. Mr C.J. Barnett : Did you invite the minister to meet with them, member for Victoria Park? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I didn’t organise the protest, Premier. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Of course the member for Victoria Park did not. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you members! Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the third time. A question has been asked by the member for Victoria Park; I do not want anyone else answering the question other than the Minister for Education. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really wanted to do something about this — Ms R. Saffioti : If you really cared, you would have gone down. The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : Why would I have got that? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I wonder how? It is funny how you could come down and comment to the media, but could not come down to meet with them. Mr C.J. Barnett : Did you invite the minister to meet with them, member for Victoria Park? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I didn’t organise the protest, Premier. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Of course the member for Victoria Park did not. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you members! Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the third time. A question has been asked by the member for Victoria Park; I do not want anyone else answering the question other than the Minister for Education. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really wanted to do something about this — Ms R. Saffioti : If you really cared, you would have gone down. The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
Mr B.S. Wyatt : I wonder how? It is funny how you could come down and comment to the media, but could not come down to meet with them. Mr C.J. Barnett : Did you invite the minister to meet with them, member for Victoria Park? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I didn’t organise the protest, Premier. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Of course the member for Victoria Park did not. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you members! Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the third time. A question has been asked by the member for Victoria Park; I do not want anyone else answering the question other than the Minister for Education. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really wanted to do something about this — Ms R. Saffioti : If you really cared, you would have gone down. The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
Mr C.J. Barnett : Did you invite the minister to meet with them, member for Victoria Park? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I didn’t organise the protest, Premier. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Of course the member for Victoria Park did not. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you members! Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the third time. A question has been asked by the member for Victoria Park; I do not want anyone else answering the question other than the Minister for Education. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really wanted to do something about this — Ms R. Saffioti : If you really cared, you would have gone down. The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
Mr B.S. Wyatt : I didn’t organise the protest, Premier. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Of course the member for Victoria Park did not. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you members! Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the third time. A question has been asked by the member for Victoria Park; I do not want anyone else answering the question other than the Minister for Education. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really wanted to do something about this — Ms R. Saffioti : If you really cared, you would have gone down. The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : Of course the member for Victoria Park did not. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you members! Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the third time. A question has been asked by the member for Victoria Park; I do not want anyone else answering the question other than the Minister for Education. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really wanted to do something about this — Ms R. Saffioti : If you really cared, you would have gone down. The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you members! Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the third time. A question has been asked by the member for Victoria Park; I do not want anyone else answering the question other than the Minister for Education. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really wanted to do something about this — Ms R. Saffioti : If you really cared, you would have gone down. The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
The SPEAKER : Thank you members! Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the third time. A question has been asked by the member for Victoria Park; I do not want anyone else answering the question other than the Minister for Education. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really wanted to do something about this — Ms R. Saffioti : If you really cared, you would have gone down. The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really wanted to do something about this — Ms R. Saffioti : If you really cared, you would have gone down. The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
Ms R. Saffioti : If you really cared, you would have gone down. The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I heard you ask for something previously, and you seem to be breaking the rule that you asked for. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : I would have thought that if the member for Victoria Park had really cared about that program — Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
Mr P. Papalia : You’re the minister; do something about it. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you to order for the second time today. In this place you have an opportunity to ask questions, member for Warnbro. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member for Victoria Park has never talked to me about the Carson Street School’s conductive education program. If he had really cared about the program, and if he had really cared about those children, instead of putting them outside — Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
Several members interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : It has not been cancelled.
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