❓ Shadow Minister for Education questions the Premier on intervening in the teachers' pay dispute, referencing the Premier's intervention in a police pay dispute. The Premier defends the government's offer and questions the Shadow Minister's stance.
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I refer the Premier to his announcement in this House on 18 September this year that he had intervened in the police pay dispute. He stated - . . . I intend to bring these negotiations to a timely and satisfactory conclusion . . . I have given the Government’s most senior negotiators the authority and greater flexibility to reach agreement on a new deal . . . (1) Will the Premier now intervene in the current teachers’ pay dispute to bring negotiations to a timely and satisfactory conclusion? (2) Why has the Premier not authorised negotiators to reach a new and better agreement for Western Australian teachers? (3) Does the Premier intend to allow this situation to reach crisis point before he again plays the white knight? Dr G.I. GALLOP
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(1)-(3) Perhaps the shadow Minister for Education and Training, the member for Darling Range, has not been closely observing what has happened with the teachers’ claim. When the teachers’ claim first came forward and the Government responded to it, many points were put on the table. I am pleased to say that the Minister for Education and Training considered those and then, with the support of the Government, put another offer to the teachers that expanded on the original offer that the Government put to them. In fact, the Government has done exactly the same thing with the teachers as it is now doing with the police officers. Indeed, we responded to the very points that the teachers were making about the nature of their job and the importance of having support in the classroom for behavioural management on the one hand, and professional development on the other hand. I say to the member for Darling Range that our Government has adopted an appropriate approach to the question of teachers’ salaries. The Government is at the limits of its capacity to pay. I refer to the notion that there would be a 30 per cent increase in teachers’ salaries. Given the Government’s current financial position, it would be highly irresponsible for this or any other Government to grant a 30 per cent increase. This is not that type of Government. The Government has made a very good offer to the teachers. It has taken into account all the questions they put before it. The Government is at the limits of its capacity to pay the teachers, and it will advocate very strongly that what it has offered is acceptable. Mr J.H.D. Day: Will you intervene? Dr G.I. GALLOP: I have an interesting question for the member for Darling Range. Does he think our offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable? Mr J.H.D. Day: It could be a lot better. Dr G.I. GALLOP: Hang on. Does the member think our offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable? Mr J.H.D. Day: I asked whether you would intervene. Dr G.I. GALLOP: The offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable. It was fully explained to the people of Western Australia by the Minister for Education and Training in the context of what it meant for their wages and what increases some categories of teachers would get. I will repeat the question. The people deserve to know the answer. Accountability is the subject that we are debating. I ask the shadow Minister for Education and Training whether the Government’s offer to the teachers is adequate. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: Members opposite will not let him answer the question! Mr J.H.D. Day: Do you want an answer? Dr G.I. GALLOP: Yes. Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the two speeches I gave last week in relation to the teaching profession. Dr G.I. GALLOP: So the member supports us too? Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the speeches I gave last week - Dr G.I. GALLOP: That is excellent. The shadow Minister for Education and Training supports the Government. That is great to see. We know that the people of Western Australia support us as well.
(2) Why has the Premier not authorised negotiators to reach a new and better agreement for Western Australian teachers? (3) Does the Premier intend to allow this situation to reach crisis point before he again plays the white knight? Dr G.I. GALLOP replied: (1)-(3) Perhaps the shadow Minister for Education and Training, the member for Darling Range, has not been closely observing what has happened with the teachers’ claim. When the teachers’ claim first came forward and the Government responded to it, many points were put on the table. I am pleased to say that the Minister for Education and Training considered those and then, with the support of the Government, put another offer to the teachers that expanded on the original offer that the Government put to them. In fact, the Government has done exactly the same thing with the teachers as it is now doing with the police officers. Indeed, we responded to the very points that the teachers were making about the nature of their job and the importance of having support in the classroom for behavioural management on the one hand, and professional development on the other hand. I say to the member for Darling Range that our Government has adopted an appropriate approach to the question of teachers’ salaries. The Government is at the limits of its capacity to pay. I refer to the notion that there would be a 30 per cent increase in teachers’ salaries. Given the Government’s current financial position, it would be highly irresponsible for this or any other Government to grant a 30 per cent increase. This is not that type of Government. The Government has made a very good offer to the teachers. It has taken into account all the questions they put before it. The Government is at the limits of its capacity to pay the teachers, and it will advocate very strongly that what it has offered is acceptable. Mr J.H.D. Day: Will you intervene? Dr G.I. GALLOP: I have an interesting question for the member for Darling Range. Does he think our offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable? Mr J.H.D. Day: It could be a lot better. Dr G.I. GALLOP: Hang on. Does the member think our offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable? Mr J.H.D. Day: I asked whether you would intervene. Dr G.I. GALLOP: The offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable. It was fully explained to the people of Western Australia by the Minister for Education and Training in the context of what it meant for their wages and what increases some categories of teachers would get. I will repeat the question. The people deserve to know the answer. Accountability is the subject that we are debating. I ask the shadow Minister for Education and Training whether the Government’s offer to the teachers is adequate. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: Members opposite will not let him answer the question! Mr J.H.D. Day: Do you want an answer? Dr G.I. GALLOP: Yes. Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the two speeches I gave last week in relation to the teaching profession. Dr G.I. GALLOP: So the member supports us too? Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the speeches I gave last week - Dr G.I. GALLOP: That is excellent. The shadow Minister for Education and Training supports the Government. That is great to see. We know that the people of Western Australia support us as well.
(3) Does the Premier intend to allow this situation to reach crisis point before he again plays the white knight? Dr G.I. GALLOP replied: (1)-(3) Perhaps the shadow Minister for Education and Training, the member for Darling Range, has not been closely observing what has happened with the teachers’ claim. When the teachers’ claim first came forward and the Government responded to it, many points were put on the table. I am pleased to say that the Minister for Education and Training considered those and then, with the support of the Government, put another offer to the teachers that expanded on the original offer that the Government put to them. In fact, the Government has done exactly the same thing with the teachers as it is now doing with the police officers. Indeed, we responded to the very points that the teachers were making about the nature of their job and the importance of having support in the classroom for behavioural management on the one hand, and professional development on the other hand. I say to the member for Darling Range that our Government has adopted an appropriate approach to the question of teachers’ salaries. The Government is at the limits of its capacity to pay. I refer to the notion that there would be a 30 per cent increase in teachers’ salaries. Given the Government’s current financial position, it would be highly irresponsible for this or any other Government to grant a 30 per cent increase. This is not that type of Government. The Government has made a very good offer to the teachers. It has taken into account all the questions they put before it. The Government is at the limits of its capacity to pay the teachers, and it will advocate very strongly that what it has offered is acceptable. Mr J.H.D. Day: Will you intervene? Dr G.I. GALLOP: I have an interesting question for the member for Darling Range. Does he think our offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable? Mr J.H.D. Day: It could be a lot better. Dr G.I. GALLOP: Hang on. Does the member think our offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable? Mr J.H.D. Day: I asked whether you would intervene. Dr G.I. GALLOP: The offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable. It was fully explained to the people of Western Australia by the Minister for Education and Training in the context of what it meant for their wages and what increases some categories of teachers would get. I will repeat the question. The people deserve to know the answer. Accountability is the subject that we are debating. I ask the shadow Minister for Education and Training whether the Government’s offer to the teachers is adequate. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: Members opposite will not let him answer the question! Mr J.H.D. Day: Do you want an answer? Dr G.I. GALLOP: Yes. Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the two speeches I gave last week in relation to the teaching profession. Dr G.I. GALLOP: So the member supports us too? Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the speeches I gave last week - Dr G.I. GALLOP: That is excellent. The shadow Minister for Education and Training supports the Government. That is great to see. We know that the people of Western Australia support us as well.
Dr G.I. GALLOP replied: (1)-(3) Perhaps the shadow Minister for Education and Training, the member for Darling Range, has not been closely observing what has happened with the teachers’ claim. When the teachers’ claim first came forward and the Government responded to it, many points were put on the table. I am pleased to say that the Minister for Education and Training considered those and then, with the support of the Government, put another offer to the teachers that expanded on the original offer that the Government put to them. In fact, the Government has done exactly the same thing with the teachers as it is now doing with the police officers. Indeed, we responded to the very points that the teachers were making about the nature of their job and the importance of having support in the classroom for behavioural management on the one hand, and professional development on the other hand. I say to the member for Darling Range that our Government has adopted an appropriate approach to the question of teachers’ salaries. The Government is at the limits of its capacity to pay. I refer to the notion that there would be a 30 per cent increase in teachers’ salaries. Given the Government’s current financial position, it would be highly irresponsible for this or any other Government to grant a 30 per cent increase. This is not that type of Government. The Government has made a very good offer to the teachers. It has taken into account all the questions they put before it. The Government is at the limits of its capacity to pay the teachers, and it will advocate very strongly that what it has offered is acceptable. Mr J.H.D. Day: Will you intervene? Dr G.I. GALLOP: I have an interesting question for the member for Darling Range. Does he think our offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable? Mr J.H.D. Day: It could be a lot better. Dr G.I. GALLOP: Hang on. Does the member think our offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable? Mr J.H.D. Day: I asked whether you would intervene. Dr G.I. GALLOP: The offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable. It was fully explained to the people of Western Australia by the Minister for Education and Training in the context of what it meant for their wages and what increases some categories of teachers would get. I will repeat the question. The people deserve to know the answer. Accountability is the subject that we are debating. I ask the shadow Minister for Education and Training whether the Government’s offer to the teachers is adequate. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: Members opposite will not let him answer the question! Mr J.H.D. Day: Do you want an answer? Dr G.I. GALLOP: Yes. Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the two speeches I gave last week in relation to the teaching profession. Dr G.I. GALLOP: So the member supports us too? Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the speeches I gave last week - Dr G.I. GALLOP: That is excellent. The shadow Minister for Education and Training supports the Government. That is great to see. We know that the people of Western Australia support us as well.
(1)-(3) Perhaps the shadow Minister for Education and Training, the member for Darling Range, has not been closely observing what has happened with the teachers’ claim. When the teachers’ claim first came forward and the Government responded to it, many points were put on the table. I am pleased to say that the Minister for Education and Training considered those and then, with the support of the Government, put another offer to the teachers that expanded on the original offer that the Government put to them. In fact, the Government has done exactly the same thing with the teachers as it is now doing with the police officers. Indeed, we responded to the very points that the teachers were making about the nature of their job and the importance of having support in the classroom for behavioural management on the one hand, and professional development on the other hand. I say to the member for Darling Range that our Government has adopted an appropriate approach to the question of teachers’ salaries. The Government is at the limits of its capacity to pay. I refer to the notion that there would be a 30 per cent increase in teachers’ salaries. Given the Government’s current financial position, it would be highly irresponsible for this or any other Government to grant a 30 per cent increase. This is not that type of Government. The Government has made a very good offer to the teachers. It has taken into account all the questions they put before it. The Government is at the limits of its capacity to pay the teachers, and it will advocate very strongly that what it has offered is acceptable. Mr J.H.D. Day: Will you intervene? Dr G.I. GALLOP: I have an interesting question for the member for Darling Range. Does he think our offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable? Mr J.H.D. Day: It could be a lot better. Dr G.I. GALLOP: Hang on. Does the member think our offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable? Mr J.H.D. Day: I asked whether you would intervene. Dr G.I. GALLOP: The offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable. It was fully explained to the people of Western Australia by the Minister for Education and Training in the context of what it meant for their wages and what increases some categories of teachers would get. I will repeat the question. The people deserve to know the answer. Accountability is the subject that we are debating. I ask the shadow Minister for Education and Training whether the Government’s offer to the teachers is adequate. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: Members opposite will not let him answer the question! Mr J.H.D. Day: Do you want an answer? Dr G.I. GALLOP: Yes. Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the two speeches I gave last week in relation to the teaching profession. Dr G.I. GALLOP: So the member supports us too? Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the speeches I gave last week - Dr G.I. GALLOP: That is excellent. The shadow Minister for Education and Training supports the Government. That is great to see. We know that the people of Western Australia support us as well.
Dr G.I. GALLOP: I have an interesting question for the member for Darling Range. Does he think our offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable? Mr J.H.D. Day: It could be a lot better. Dr G.I. GALLOP: Hang on. Does the member think our offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable? Mr J.H.D. Day: I asked whether you would intervene. Dr G.I. GALLOP: The offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable. It was fully explained to the people of Western Australia by the Minister for Education and Training in the context of what it meant for their wages and what increases some categories of teachers would get. I will repeat the question. The people deserve to know the answer. Accountability is the subject that we are debating. I ask the shadow Minister for Education and Training whether the Government’s offer to the teachers is adequate. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: Members opposite will not let him answer the question! Mr J.H.D. Day: Do you want an answer? Dr G.I. GALLOP: Yes. Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the two speeches I gave last week in relation to the teaching profession. Dr G.I. GALLOP: So the member supports us too? Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the speeches I gave last week - Dr G.I. GALLOP: That is excellent. The shadow Minister for Education and Training supports the Government. That is great to see. We know that the people of Western Australia support us as well.
Mr J.H.D. Day: It could be a lot better. Dr G.I. GALLOP: Hang on. Does the member think our offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable? Mr J.H.D. Day: I asked whether you would intervene. Dr G.I. GALLOP: The offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable. It was fully explained to the people of Western Australia by the Minister for Education and Training in the context of what it meant for their wages and what increases some categories of teachers would get. I will repeat the question. The people deserve to know the answer. Accountability is the subject that we are debating. I ask the shadow Minister for Education and Training whether the Government’s offer to the teachers is adequate. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: Members opposite will not let him answer the question! Mr J.H.D. Day: Do you want an answer? Dr G.I. GALLOP: Yes. Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the two speeches I gave last week in relation to the teaching profession. Dr G.I. GALLOP: So the member supports us too? Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the speeches I gave last week - Dr G.I. GALLOP: That is excellent. The shadow Minister for Education and Training supports the Government. That is great to see. We know that the people of Western Australia support us as well.
Dr G.I. GALLOP: Hang on. Does the member think our offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable? Mr J.H.D. Day: I asked whether you would intervene. Dr G.I. GALLOP: The offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable. It was fully explained to the people of Western Australia by the Minister for Education and Training in the context of what it meant for their wages and what increases some categories of teachers would get. I will repeat the question. The people deserve to know the answer. Accountability is the subject that we are debating. I ask the shadow Minister for Education and Training whether the Government’s offer to the teachers is adequate. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: Members opposite will not let him answer the question! Mr J.H.D. Day: Do you want an answer? Dr G.I. GALLOP: Yes. Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the two speeches I gave last week in relation to the teaching profession. Dr G.I. GALLOP: So the member supports us too? Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the speeches I gave last week - Dr G.I. GALLOP: That is excellent. The shadow Minister for Education and Training supports the Government. That is great to see. We know that the people of Western Australia support us as well.
Mr J.H.D. Day: I asked whether you would intervene. Dr G.I. GALLOP: The offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable. It was fully explained to the people of Western Australia by the Minister for Education and Training in the context of what it meant for their wages and what increases some categories of teachers would get. I will repeat the question. The people deserve to know the answer. Accountability is the subject that we are debating. I ask the shadow Minister for Education and Training whether the Government’s offer to the teachers is adequate. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: Members opposite will not let him answer the question! Mr J.H.D. Day: Do you want an answer? Dr G.I. GALLOP: Yes. Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the two speeches I gave last week in relation to the teaching profession. Dr G.I. GALLOP: So the member supports us too? Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the speeches I gave last week - Dr G.I. GALLOP: That is excellent. The shadow Minister for Education and Training supports the Government. That is great to see. We know that the people of Western Australia support us as well.
Dr G.I. GALLOP: The offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable. It was fully explained to the people of Western Australia by the Minister for Education and Training in the context of what it meant for their wages and what increases some categories of teachers would get. I will repeat the question. The people deserve to know the answer. Accountability is the subject that we are debating. I ask the shadow Minister for Education and Training whether the Government’s offer to the teachers is adequate. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: Members opposite will not let him answer the question! Mr J.H.D. Day: Do you want an answer? Dr G.I. GALLOP: Yes. Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the two speeches I gave last week in relation to the teaching profession. Dr G.I. GALLOP: So the member supports us too? Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the speeches I gave last week - Dr G.I. GALLOP: That is excellent. The shadow Minister for Education and Training supports the Government. That is great to see. We know that the people of Western Australia support us as well.
Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: Members opposite will not let him answer the question! Mr J.H.D. Day: Do you want an answer? Dr G.I. GALLOP: Yes. Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the two speeches I gave last week in relation to the teaching profession. Dr G.I. GALLOP: So the member supports us too? Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the speeches I gave last week - Dr G.I. GALLOP: That is excellent. The shadow Minister for Education and Training supports the Government. That is great to see. We know that the people of Western Australia support us as well.
Dr G.I. GALLOP: Members opposite will not let him answer the question! Mr J.H.D. Day: Do you want an answer? Dr G.I. GALLOP: Yes. Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the two speeches I gave last week in relation to the teaching profession. Dr G.I. GALLOP: So the member supports us too? Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the speeches I gave last week - Dr G.I. GALLOP: That is excellent. The shadow Minister for Education and Training supports the Government. That is great to see. We know that the people of Western Australia support us as well.
Mr J.H.D. Day: Do you want an answer? Dr G.I. GALLOP: Yes. Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the two speeches I gave last week in relation to the teaching profession. Dr G.I. GALLOP: So the member supports us too? Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the speeches I gave last week - Dr G.I. GALLOP: That is excellent. The shadow Minister for Education and Training supports the Government. That is great to see. We know that the people of Western Australia support us as well.
Dr G.I. GALLOP: Yes. Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the two speeches I gave last week in relation to the teaching profession. Dr G.I. GALLOP: So the member supports us too? Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the speeches I gave last week - Dr G.I. GALLOP: That is excellent. The shadow Minister for Education and Training supports the Government. That is great to see. We know that the people of Western Australia support us as well.
Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the two speeches I gave last week in relation to the teaching profession. Dr G.I. GALLOP: So the member supports us too? Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the speeches I gave last week - Dr G.I. GALLOP: That is excellent. The shadow Minister for Education and Training supports the Government. That is great to see. We know that the people of Western Australia support us as well.
Dr G.I. GALLOP: So the member supports us too? Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the speeches I gave last week - Dr G.I. GALLOP: That is excellent. The shadow Minister for Education and Training supports the Government. That is great to see. We know that the people of Western Australia support us as well.
Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the speeches I gave last week - Dr G.I. GALLOP: That is excellent. The shadow Minister for Education and Training supports the Government. That is great to see. We know that the people of Western Australia support us as well.
Dr G.I. GALLOP: That is excellent. The shadow Minister for Education and Training supports the Government. That is great to see. We know that the people of Western Australia support us as well.
(2) Why has the Premier not authorised negotiators to reach a new and better agreement for Western Australian teachers? (3) Does the Premier intend to allow this situation to reach crisis point before he again plays the white knight? Dr G.I. GALLOP replied: (1)-(3) Perhaps the shadow Minister for Education and Training, the member for Darling Range, has not been closely observing what has happened with the teachers’ claim. When the teachers’ claim first came forward and the Government responded to it, many points were put on the table. I am pleased to say that the Minister for Education and Training considered those and then, with the support of the Government, put another offer to the teachers that expanded on the original offer that the Government put to them. In fact, the Government has done exactly the same thing with the teachers as it is now doing with the police officers. Indeed, we responded to the very points that the teachers were making about the nature of their job and the importance of having support in the classroom for behavioural management on the one hand, and professional development on the other hand. I say to the member for Darling Range that our Government has adopted an appropriate approach to the question of teachers’ salaries. The Government is at the limits of its capacity to pay. I refer to the notion that there would be a 30 per cent increase in teachers’ salaries. Given the Government’s current financial position, it would be highly irresponsible for this or any other Government to grant a 30 per cent increase. This is not that type of Government. The Government has made a very good offer to the teachers. It has taken into account all the questions they put before it. The Government is at the limits of its capacity to pay the teachers, and it will advocate very strongly that what it has offered is acceptable. Mr J.H.D. Day: Will you intervene? Dr G.I. GALLOP: I have an interesting question for the member for Darling Range. Does he think our offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable? Mr J.H.D. Day: It could be a lot better. Dr G.I. GALLOP: Hang on. Does the member think our offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable? Mr J.H.D. Day: I asked whether you would intervene. Dr G.I. GALLOP: The offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable. It was fully explained to the people of Western Australia by the Minister for Education and Training in the context of what it meant for their wages and what increases some categories of teachers would get. I will repeat the question. The people deserve to know the answer. Accountability is the subject that we are debating. I ask the shadow Minister for Education and Training whether the Government’s offer to the teachers is adequate. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: Members opposite will not let him answer the question! Mr J.H.D. Day: Do you want an answer? Dr G.I. GALLOP: Yes. Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the two speeches I gave last week in relation to the teaching profession. Dr G.I. GALLOP: So the member supports us too? Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the speeches I gave last week - Dr G.I. GALLOP: That is excellent. The shadow Minister for Education and Training supports the Government. That is great to see. We know that the people of Western Australia support us as well.
(3) Does the Premier intend to allow this situation to reach crisis point before he again plays the white knight? Dr G.I. GALLOP replied: (1)-(3) Perhaps the shadow Minister for Education and Training, the member for Darling Range, has not been closely observing what has happened with the teachers’ claim. When the teachers’ claim first came forward and the Government responded to it, many points were put on the table. I am pleased to say that the Minister for Education and Training considered those and then, with the support of the Government, put another offer to the teachers that expanded on the original offer that the Government put to them. In fact, the Government has done exactly the same thing with the teachers as it is now doing with the police officers. Indeed, we responded to the very points that the teachers were making about the nature of their job and the importance of having support in the classroom for behavioural management on the one hand, and professional development on the other hand. I say to the member for Darling Range that our Government has adopted an appropriate approach to the question of teachers’ salaries. The Government is at the limits of its capacity to pay. I refer to the notion that there would be a 30 per cent increase in teachers’ salaries. Given the Government’s current financial position, it would be highly irresponsible for this or any other Government to grant a 30 per cent increase. This is not that type of Government. The Government has made a very good offer to the teachers. It has taken into account all the questions they put before it. The Government is at the limits of its capacity to pay the teachers, and it will advocate very strongly that what it has offered is acceptable. Mr J.H.D. Day: Will you intervene? Dr G.I. GALLOP: I have an interesting question for the member for Darling Range. Does he think our offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable? Mr J.H.D. Day: It could be a lot better. Dr G.I. GALLOP: Hang on. Does the member think our offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable? Mr J.H.D. Day: I asked whether you would intervene. Dr G.I. GALLOP: The offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable. It was fully explained to the people of Western Australia by the Minister for Education and Training in the context of what it meant for their wages and what increases some categories of teachers would get. I will repeat the question. The people deserve to know the answer. Accountability is the subject that we are debating. I ask the shadow Minister for Education and Training whether the Government’s offer to the teachers is adequate. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: Members opposite will not let him answer the question! Mr J.H.D. Day: Do you want an answer? Dr G.I. GALLOP: Yes. Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the two speeches I gave last week in relation to the teaching profession. Dr G.I. GALLOP: So the member supports us too? Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the speeches I gave last week - Dr G.I. GALLOP: That is excellent. The shadow Minister for Education and Training supports the Government. That is great to see. We know that the people of Western Australia support us as well.
Dr G.I. GALLOP replied: (1)-(3) Perhaps the shadow Minister for Education and Training, the member for Darling Range, has not been closely observing what has happened with the teachers’ claim. When the teachers’ claim first came forward and the Government responded to it, many points were put on the table. I am pleased to say that the Minister for Education and Training considered those and then, with the support of the Government, put another offer to the teachers that expanded on the original offer that the Government put to them. In fact, the Government has done exactly the same thing with the teachers as it is now doing with the police officers. Indeed, we responded to the very points that the teachers were making about the nature of their job and the importance of having support in the classroom for behavioural management on the one hand, and professional development on the other hand. I say to the member for Darling Range that our Government has adopted an appropriate approach to the question of teachers’ salaries. The Government is at the limits of its capacity to pay. I refer to the notion that there would be a 30 per cent increase in teachers’ salaries. Given the Government’s current financial position, it would be highly irresponsible for this or any other Government to grant a 30 per cent increase. This is not that type of Government. The Government has made a very good offer to the teachers. It has taken into account all the questions they put before it. The Government is at the limits of its capacity to pay the teachers, and it will advocate very strongly that what it has offered is acceptable. Mr J.H.D. Day: Will you intervene? Dr G.I. GALLOP: I have an interesting question for the member for Darling Range. Does he think our offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable? Mr J.H.D. Day: It could be a lot better. Dr G.I. GALLOP: Hang on. Does the member think our offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable? Mr J.H.D. Day: I asked whether you would intervene. Dr G.I. GALLOP: The offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable. It was fully explained to the people of Western Australia by the Minister for Education and Training in the context of what it meant for their wages and what increases some categories of teachers would get. I will repeat the question. The people deserve to know the answer. Accountability is the subject that we are debating. I ask the shadow Minister for Education and Training whether the Government’s offer to the teachers is adequate. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: Members opposite will not let him answer the question! Mr J.H.D. Day: Do you want an answer? Dr G.I. GALLOP: Yes. Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the two speeches I gave last week in relation to the teaching profession. Dr G.I. GALLOP: So the member supports us too? Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the speeches I gave last week - Dr G.I. GALLOP: That is excellent. The shadow Minister for Education and Training supports the Government. That is great to see. We know that the people of Western Australia support us as well.
(1)-(3) Perhaps the shadow Minister for Education and Training, the member for Darling Range, has not been closely observing what has happened with the teachers’ claim. When the teachers’ claim first came forward and the Government responded to it, many points were put on the table. I am pleased to say that the Minister for Education and Training considered those and then, with the support of the Government, put another offer to the teachers that expanded on the original offer that the Government put to them. In fact, the Government has done exactly the same thing with the teachers as it is now doing with the police officers. Indeed, we responded to the very points that the teachers were making about the nature of their job and the importance of having support in the classroom for behavioural management on the one hand, and professional development on the other hand. I say to the member for Darling Range that our Government has adopted an appropriate approach to the question of teachers’ salaries. The Government is at the limits of its capacity to pay. I refer to the notion that there would be a 30 per cent increase in teachers’ salaries. Given the Government’s current financial position, it would be highly irresponsible for this or any other Government to grant a 30 per cent increase. This is not that type of Government. The Government has made a very good offer to the teachers. It has taken into account all the questions they put before it. The Government is at the limits of its capacity to pay the teachers, and it will advocate very strongly that what it has offered is acceptable. Mr J.H.D. Day: Will you intervene? Dr G.I. GALLOP: I have an interesting question for the member for Darling Range. Does he think our offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable? Mr J.H.D. Day: It could be a lot better. Dr G.I. GALLOP: Hang on. Does the member think our offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable? Mr J.H.D. Day: I asked whether you would intervene. Dr G.I. GALLOP: The offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable. It was fully explained to the people of Western Australia by the Minister for Education and Training in the context of what it meant for their wages and what increases some categories of teachers would get. I will repeat the question. The people deserve to know the answer. Accountability is the subject that we are debating. I ask the shadow Minister for Education and Training whether the Government’s offer to the teachers is adequate. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: Members opposite will not let him answer the question! Mr J.H.D. Day: Do you want an answer? Dr G.I. GALLOP: Yes. Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the two speeches I gave last week in relation to the teaching profession. Dr G.I. GALLOP: So the member supports us too? Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the speeches I gave last week - Dr G.I. GALLOP: That is excellent. The shadow Minister for Education and Training supports the Government. That is great to see. We know that the people of Western Australia support us as well.
Dr G.I. GALLOP: I have an interesting question for the member for Darling Range. Does he think our offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable? Mr J.H.D. Day: It could be a lot better. Dr G.I. GALLOP: Hang on. Does the member think our offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable? Mr J.H.D. Day: I asked whether you would intervene. Dr G.I. GALLOP: The offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable. It was fully explained to the people of Western Australia by the Minister for Education and Training in the context of what it meant for their wages and what increases some categories of teachers would get. I will repeat the question. The people deserve to know the answer. Accountability is the subject that we are debating. I ask the shadow Minister for Education and Training whether the Government’s offer to the teachers is adequate. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: Members opposite will not let him answer the question! Mr J.H.D. Day: Do you want an answer? Dr G.I. GALLOP: Yes. Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the two speeches I gave last week in relation to the teaching profession. Dr G.I. GALLOP: So the member supports us too? Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the speeches I gave last week - Dr G.I. GALLOP: That is excellent. The shadow Minister for Education and Training supports the Government. That is great to see. We know that the people of Western Australia support us as well.
Mr J.H.D. Day: It could be a lot better. Dr G.I. GALLOP: Hang on. Does the member think our offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable? Mr J.H.D. Day: I asked whether you would intervene. Dr G.I. GALLOP: The offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable. It was fully explained to the people of Western Australia by the Minister for Education and Training in the context of what it meant for their wages and what increases some categories of teachers would get. I will repeat the question. The people deserve to know the answer. Accountability is the subject that we are debating. I ask the shadow Minister for Education and Training whether the Government’s offer to the teachers is adequate. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: Members opposite will not let him answer the question! Mr J.H.D. Day: Do you want an answer? Dr G.I. GALLOP: Yes. Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the two speeches I gave last week in relation to the teaching profession. Dr G.I. GALLOP: So the member supports us too? Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the speeches I gave last week - Dr G.I. GALLOP: That is excellent. The shadow Minister for Education and Training supports the Government. That is great to see. We know that the people of Western Australia support us as well.
Dr G.I. GALLOP: Hang on. Does the member think our offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable? Mr J.H.D. Day: I asked whether you would intervene. Dr G.I. GALLOP: The offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable. It was fully explained to the people of Western Australia by the Minister for Education and Training in the context of what it meant for their wages and what increases some categories of teachers would get. I will repeat the question. The people deserve to know the answer. Accountability is the subject that we are debating. I ask the shadow Minister for Education and Training whether the Government’s offer to the teachers is adequate. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: Members opposite will not let him answer the question! Mr J.H.D. Day: Do you want an answer? Dr G.I. GALLOP: Yes. Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the two speeches I gave last week in relation to the teaching profession. Dr G.I. GALLOP: So the member supports us too? Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the speeches I gave last week - Dr G.I. GALLOP: That is excellent. The shadow Minister for Education and Training supports the Government. That is great to see. We know that the people of Western Australia support us as well.
Mr J.H.D. Day: I asked whether you would intervene. Dr G.I. GALLOP: The offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable. It was fully explained to the people of Western Australia by the Minister for Education and Training in the context of what it meant for their wages and what increases some categories of teachers would get. I will repeat the question. The people deserve to know the answer. Accountability is the subject that we are debating. I ask the shadow Minister for Education and Training whether the Government’s offer to the teachers is adequate. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: Members opposite will not let him answer the question! Mr J.H.D. Day: Do you want an answer? Dr G.I. GALLOP: Yes. Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the two speeches I gave last week in relation to the teaching profession. Dr G.I. GALLOP: So the member supports us too? Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the speeches I gave last week - Dr G.I. GALLOP: That is excellent. The shadow Minister for Education and Training supports the Government. That is great to see. We know that the people of Western Australia support us as well.
Dr G.I. GALLOP: The offer to the teachers is fair and reasonable. It was fully explained to the people of Western Australia by the Minister for Education and Training in the context of what it meant for their wages and what increases some categories of teachers would get. I will repeat the question. The people deserve to know the answer. Accountability is the subject that we are debating. I ask the shadow Minister for Education and Training whether the Government’s offer to the teachers is adequate. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: Members opposite will not let him answer the question! Mr J.H.D. Day: Do you want an answer? Dr G.I. GALLOP: Yes. Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the two speeches I gave last week in relation to the teaching profession. Dr G.I. GALLOP: So the member supports us too? Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the speeches I gave last week - Dr G.I. GALLOP: That is excellent. The shadow Minister for Education and Training supports the Government. That is great to see. We know that the people of Western Australia support us as well.
Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: Members opposite will not let him answer the question! Mr J.H.D. Day: Do you want an answer? Dr G.I. GALLOP: Yes. Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the two speeches I gave last week in relation to the teaching profession. Dr G.I. GALLOP: So the member supports us too? Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the speeches I gave last week - Dr G.I. GALLOP: That is excellent. The shadow Minister for Education and Training supports the Government. That is great to see. We know that the people of Western Australia support us as well.
Dr G.I. GALLOP: Members opposite will not let him answer the question! Mr J.H.D. Day: Do you want an answer? Dr G.I. GALLOP: Yes. Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the two speeches I gave last week in relation to the teaching profession. Dr G.I. GALLOP: So the member supports us too? Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the speeches I gave last week - Dr G.I. GALLOP: That is excellent. The shadow Minister for Education and Training supports the Government. That is great to see. We know that the people of Western Australia support us as well.
Mr J.H.D. Day: Do you want an answer? Dr G.I. GALLOP: Yes. Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the two speeches I gave last week in relation to the teaching profession. Dr G.I. GALLOP: So the member supports us too? Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the speeches I gave last week - Dr G.I. GALLOP: That is excellent. The shadow Minister for Education and Training supports the Government. That is great to see. We know that the people of Western Australia support us as well.
Dr G.I. GALLOP: Yes. Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the two speeches I gave last week in relation to the teaching profession. Dr G.I. GALLOP: So the member supports us too? Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the speeches I gave last week - Dr G.I. GALLOP: That is excellent. The shadow Minister for Education and Training supports the Government. That is great to see. We know that the people of Western Australia support us as well.
Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the two speeches I gave last week in relation to the teaching profession. Dr G.I. GALLOP: So the member supports us too? Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the speeches I gave last week - Dr G.I. GALLOP: That is excellent. The shadow Minister for Education and Training supports the Government. That is great to see. We know that the people of Western Australia support us as well.
Dr G.I. GALLOP: So the member supports us too? Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the speeches I gave last week - Dr G.I. GALLOP: That is excellent. The shadow Minister for Education and Training supports the Government. That is great to see. We know that the people of Western Australia support us as well.
Mr J.H.D. Day: I suggest that you read the speeches I gave last week - Dr G.I. GALLOP: That is excellent. The shadow Minister for Education and Training supports the Government. That is great to see. We know that the people of Western Australia support us as well.
Dr G.I. GALLOP: That is excellent. The shadow Minister for Education and Training supports the Government. That is great to see. We know that the people of Western Australia support us as well.
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