❓ A parliamentary question regarding the fate of sheep from the Cormo Express, specifically if they were resold to Saudi Arabia after being donated to Eritrea, and the implications for a levy and the validity of Saudi health claims. The Minister could not confirm the resale.
AnsweredQoN 244Legislative Council
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The minister may be aware of my efforts to find a home in Sierra Leone and Mexico for those sheep that were stranded on the Cormo Express as a result of health claims made by the Saudi Government. The sheep were eventually given to Eritrea. It is a widely held view that the sheep were then on-sold back to Saudi Arabia. (1) Can the minister confirm if this was in fact the case? (2) If so, what are the ramifications regarding the $10 million levy placed on the industry? (3) If the sheep did end up in Saudi Arabia, does this not show beyond all doubt that the health claims by the Saudi Government were bogus? (4) Does it not also demonstrate that the actions of the animal liberationists, the Greens and the Democrats were irresponsible and bordering on treason in respect of this unfortunate incident? The PRESIDENT: Order! The minister will be aware that the last part of the question is out of order and he ought not answer it. When we get past the pre-oration and the final out-of-order part, I think there is a part that is in order. The minister may answer the part that is in order. Hon KIM CHANCE
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Thank you, Mr President. I will try to work that out, given that the question that I have in writing is a little different from that which was asked. (1)-(2) I am unable to confirm that the sheep from the Cormo Express , which were unloaded in Eritrea were subsequently on-sold to Saudi Arabia. The sheep were donated to the Government of Eritrea and their fate is a matter for the Government of Eritrea. (3) This question assumes that the sheep from the Cormo Express subsequently ended up in Saudi Arabia. I cannot confirm this result. However, it is possible that disease symptoms, if they existed at all, may have disappeared, thus removing Saudi veterinarians’ objections and clearing the way for re-export of some or all of the shipment, without speculating on whether that in fact did happen. In a sense mine is a hypothetical answer to a hypothetical question. (4) Notwithstanding the President’s warning, I am unaware of any connection of our colleagues in the Greens (WA) with the incident that occurred in Portland.
(1) Can the minister confirm if this was in fact the case? (2) If so, what are the ramifications regarding the $10 million levy placed on the industry? (3) If the sheep did end up in Saudi Arabia, does this not show beyond all doubt that the health claims by the Saudi Government were bogus? (4) Does it not also demonstrate that the actions of the animal liberationists, the Greens and the Democrats were irresponsible and bordering on treason in respect of this unfortunate incident? The PRESIDENT: Order! The minister will be aware that the last part of the question is out of order and he ought not answer it. When we get past the pre-oration and the final out-of-order part, I think there is a part that is in order. The minister may answer the part that is in order. Hon KIM CHANCE replied: Thank you, Mr President. I will try to work that out, given that the question that I have in writing is a little different from that which was asked. (1)-(2) I am unable to confirm that the sheep from the Cormo Express , which were unloaded in Eritrea were subsequently on-sold to Saudi Arabia. The sheep were donated to the Government of Eritrea and their fate is a matter for the Government of Eritrea. (3) This question assumes that the sheep from the Cormo Express subsequently ended up in Saudi Arabia. I cannot confirm this result. However, it is possible that disease symptoms, if they existed at all, may have disappeared, thus removing Saudi veterinarians’ objections and clearing the way for re-export of some or all of the shipment, without speculating on whether that in fact did happen. In a sense mine is a hypothetical answer to a hypothetical question. (4) Notwithstanding the President’s warning, I am unaware of any connection of our colleagues in the Greens (WA) with the incident that occurred in Portland.
(2) If so, what are the ramifications regarding the $10 million levy placed on the industry? (3) If the sheep did end up in Saudi Arabia, does this not show beyond all doubt that the health claims by the Saudi Government were bogus? (4) Does it not also demonstrate that the actions of the animal liberationists, the Greens and the Democrats were irresponsible and bordering on treason in respect of this unfortunate incident? The PRESIDENT: Order! The minister will be aware that the last part of the question is out of order and he ought not answer it. When we get past the pre-oration and the final out-of-order part, I think there is a part that is in order. The minister may answer the part that is in order. Hon KIM CHANCE replied: Thank you, Mr President. I will try to work that out, given that the question that I have in writing is a little different from that which was asked. (1)-(2) I am unable to confirm that the sheep from the Cormo Express , which were unloaded in Eritrea were subsequently on-sold to Saudi Arabia. The sheep were donated to the Government of Eritrea and their fate is a matter for the Government of Eritrea. (3) This question assumes that the sheep from the Cormo Express subsequently ended up in Saudi Arabia. I cannot confirm this result. However, it is possible that disease symptoms, if they existed at all, may have disappeared, thus removing Saudi veterinarians’ objections and clearing the way for re-export of some or all of the shipment, without speculating on whether that in fact did happen. In a sense mine is a hypothetical answer to a hypothetical question. (4) Notwithstanding the President’s warning, I am unaware of any connection of our colleagues in the Greens (WA) with the incident that occurred in Portland.
(3) If the sheep did end up in Saudi Arabia, does this not show beyond all doubt that the health claims by the Saudi Government were bogus? (4) Does it not also demonstrate that the actions of the animal liberationists, the Greens and the Democrats were irresponsible and bordering on treason in respect of this unfortunate incident? The PRESIDENT: Order! The minister will be aware that the last part of the question is out of order and he ought not answer it. When we get past the pre-oration and the final out-of-order part, I think there is a part that is in order. The minister may answer the part that is in order. Hon KIM CHANCE replied: Thank you, Mr President. I will try to work that out, given that the question that I have in writing is a little different from that which was asked. (1)-(2) I am unable to confirm that the sheep from the Cormo Express , which were unloaded in Eritrea were subsequently on-sold to Saudi Arabia. The sheep were donated to the Government of Eritrea and their fate is a matter for the Government of Eritrea. (3) This question assumes that the sheep from the Cormo Express subsequently ended up in Saudi Arabia. I cannot confirm this result. However, it is possible that disease symptoms, if they existed at all, may have disappeared, thus removing Saudi veterinarians’ objections and clearing the way for re-export of some or all of the shipment, without speculating on whether that in fact did happen. In a sense mine is a hypothetical answer to a hypothetical question. (4) Notwithstanding the President’s warning, I am unaware of any connection of our colleagues in the Greens (WA) with the incident that occurred in Portland.
(4) Does it not also demonstrate that the actions of the animal liberationists, the Greens and the Democrats were irresponsible and bordering on treason in respect of this unfortunate incident? The PRESIDENT: Order! The minister will be aware that the last part of the question is out of order and he ought not answer it. When we get past the pre-oration and the final out-of-order part, I think there is a part that is in order. The minister may answer the part that is in order. Hon KIM CHANCE replied: Thank you, Mr President. I will try to work that out, given that the question that I have in writing is a little different from that which was asked. (1)-(2) I am unable to confirm that the sheep from the Cormo Express , which were unloaded in Eritrea were subsequently on-sold to Saudi Arabia. The sheep were donated to the Government of Eritrea and their fate is a matter for the Government of Eritrea. (3) This question assumes that the sheep from the Cormo Express subsequently ended up in Saudi Arabia. I cannot confirm this result. However, it is possible that disease symptoms, if they existed at all, may have disappeared, thus removing Saudi veterinarians’ objections and clearing the way for re-export of some or all of the shipment, without speculating on whether that in fact did happen. In a sense mine is a hypothetical answer to a hypothetical question. (4) Notwithstanding the President’s warning, I am unaware of any connection of our colleagues in the Greens (WA) with the incident that occurred in Portland.
The PRESIDENT: Order! The minister will be aware that the last part of the question is out of order and he ought not answer it. When we get past the pre-oration and the final out-of-order part, I think there is a part that is in order. The minister may answer the part that is in order. Hon KIM CHANCE replied: Thank you, Mr President. I will try to work that out, given that the question that I have in writing is a little different from that which was asked. (1)-(2) I am unable to confirm that the sheep from the Cormo Express , which were unloaded in Eritrea were subsequently on-sold to Saudi Arabia. The sheep were donated to the Government of Eritrea and their fate is a matter for the Government of Eritrea. (3) This question assumes that the sheep from the Cormo Express subsequently ended up in Saudi Arabia. I cannot confirm this result. However, it is possible that disease symptoms, if they existed at all, may have disappeared, thus removing Saudi veterinarians’ objections and clearing the way for re-export of some or all of the shipment, without speculating on whether that in fact did happen. In a sense mine is a hypothetical answer to a hypothetical question. (4) Notwithstanding the President’s warning, I am unaware of any connection of our colleagues in the Greens (WA) with the incident that occurred in Portland.
Hon KIM CHANCE replied: Thank you, Mr President. I will try to work that out, given that the question that I have in writing is a little different from that which was asked. (1)-(2) I am unable to confirm that the sheep from the Cormo Express , which were unloaded in Eritrea were subsequently on-sold to Saudi Arabia. The sheep were donated to the Government of Eritrea and their fate is a matter for the Government of Eritrea. (3) This question assumes that the sheep from the Cormo Express subsequently ended up in Saudi Arabia. I cannot confirm this result. However, it is possible that disease symptoms, if they existed at all, may have disappeared, thus removing Saudi veterinarians’ objections and clearing the way for re-export of some or all of the shipment, without speculating on whether that in fact did happen. In a sense mine is a hypothetical answer to a hypothetical question. (4) Notwithstanding the President’s warning, I am unaware of any connection of our colleagues in the Greens (WA) with the incident that occurred in Portland.
Thank you, Mr President. I will try to work that out, given that the question that I have in writing is a little different from that which was asked. (1)-(2) I am unable to confirm that the sheep from the Cormo Express , which were unloaded in Eritrea were subsequently on-sold to Saudi Arabia. The sheep were donated to the Government of Eritrea and their fate is a matter for the Government of Eritrea. (3) This question assumes that the sheep from the Cormo Express subsequently ended up in Saudi Arabia. I cannot confirm this result. However, it is possible that disease symptoms, if they existed at all, may have disappeared, thus removing Saudi veterinarians’ objections and clearing the way for re-export of some or all of the shipment, without speculating on whether that in fact did happen. In a sense mine is a hypothetical answer to a hypothetical question. (4) Notwithstanding the President’s warning, I am unaware of any connection of our colleagues in the Greens (WA) with the incident that occurred in Portland.
(1)-(2) I am unable to confirm that the sheep from the Cormo Express , which were unloaded in Eritrea were subsequently on-sold to Saudi Arabia. The sheep were donated to the Government of Eritrea and their fate is a matter for the Government of Eritrea. (3) This question assumes that the sheep from the Cormo Express subsequently ended up in Saudi Arabia. I cannot confirm this result. However, it is possible that disease symptoms, if they existed at all, may have disappeared, thus removing Saudi veterinarians’ objections and clearing the way for re-export of some or all of the shipment, without speculating on whether that in fact did happen. In a sense mine is a hypothetical answer to a hypothetical question. (4) Notwithstanding the President’s warning, I am unaware of any connection of our colleagues in the Greens (WA) with the incident that occurred in Portland.
(3) This question assumes that the sheep from the Cormo Express subsequently ended up in Saudi Arabia. I cannot confirm this result. However, it is possible that disease symptoms, if they existed at all, may have disappeared, thus removing Saudi veterinarians’ objections and clearing the way for re-export of some or all of the shipment, without speculating on whether that in fact did happen. In a sense mine is a hypothetical answer to a hypothetical question. (4) Notwithstanding the President’s warning, I am unaware of any connection of our colleagues in the Greens (WA) with the incident that occurred in Portland.
(4) Notwithstanding the President’s warning, I am unaware of any connection of our colleagues in the Greens (WA) with the incident that occurred in Portland.
(1) Can the minister confirm if this was in fact the case? (2) If so, what are the ramifications regarding the $10 million levy placed on the industry? (3) If the sheep did end up in Saudi Arabia, does this not show beyond all doubt that the health claims by the Saudi Government were bogus? (4) Does it not also demonstrate that the actions of the animal liberationists, the Greens and the Democrats were irresponsible and bordering on treason in respect of this unfortunate incident? The PRESIDENT: Order! The minister will be aware that the last part of the question is out of order and he ought not answer it. When we get past the pre-oration and the final out-of-order part, I think there is a part that is in order. The minister may answer the part that is in order. Hon KIM CHANCE replied: Thank you, Mr President. I will try to work that out, given that the question that I have in writing is a little different from that which was asked. (1)-(2) I am unable to confirm that the sheep from the Cormo Express , which were unloaded in Eritrea were subsequently on-sold to Saudi Arabia. The sheep were donated to the Government of Eritrea and their fate is a matter for the Government of Eritrea. (3) This question assumes that the sheep from the Cormo Express subsequently ended up in Saudi Arabia. I cannot confirm this result. However, it is possible that disease symptoms, if they existed at all, may have disappeared, thus removing Saudi veterinarians’ objections and clearing the way for re-export of some or all of the shipment, without speculating on whether that in fact did happen. In a sense mine is a hypothetical answer to a hypothetical question. (4) Notwithstanding the President’s warning, I am unaware of any connection of our colleagues in the Greens (WA) with the incident that occurred in Portland.
(2) If so, what are the ramifications regarding the $10 million levy placed on the industry? (3) If the sheep did end up in Saudi Arabia, does this not show beyond all doubt that the health claims by the Saudi Government were bogus? (4) Does it not also demonstrate that the actions of the animal liberationists, the Greens and the Democrats were irresponsible and bordering on treason in respect of this unfortunate incident? The PRESIDENT: Order! The minister will be aware that the last part of the question is out of order and he ought not answer it. When we get past the pre-oration and the final out-of-order part, I think there is a part that is in order. The minister may answer the part that is in order. Hon KIM CHANCE replied: Thank you, Mr President. I will try to work that out, given that the question that I have in writing is a little different from that which was asked. (1)-(2) I am unable to confirm that the sheep from the Cormo Express , which were unloaded in Eritrea were subsequently on-sold to Saudi Arabia. The sheep were donated to the Government of Eritrea and their fate is a matter for the Government of Eritrea. (3) This question assumes that the sheep from the Cormo Express subsequently ended up in Saudi Arabia. I cannot confirm this result. However, it is possible that disease symptoms, if they existed at all, may have disappeared, thus removing Saudi veterinarians’ objections and clearing the way for re-export of some or all of the shipment, without speculating on whether that in fact did happen. In a sense mine is a hypothetical answer to a hypothetical question. (4) Notwithstanding the President’s warning, I am unaware of any connection of our colleagues in the Greens (WA) with the incident that occurred in Portland.
(3) If the sheep did end up in Saudi Arabia, does this not show beyond all doubt that the health claims by the Saudi Government were bogus? (4) Does it not also demonstrate that the actions of the animal liberationists, the Greens and the Democrats were irresponsible and bordering on treason in respect of this unfortunate incident? The PRESIDENT: Order! The minister will be aware that the last part of the question is out of order and he ought not answer it. When we get past the pre-oration and the final out-of-order part, I think there is a part that is in order. The minister may answer the part that is in order. Hon KIM CHANCE replied: Thank you, Mr President. I will try to work that out, given that the question that I have in writing is a little different from that which was asked. (1)-(2) I am unable to confirm that the sheep from the Cormo Express , which were unloaded in Eritrea were subsequently on-sold to Saudi Arabia. The sheep were donated to the Government of Eritrea and their fate is a matter for the Government of Eritrea. (3) This question assumes that the sheep from the Cormo Express subsequently ended up in Saudi Arabia. I cannot confirm this result. However, it is possible that disease symptoms, if they existed at all, may have disappeared, thus removing Saudi veterinarians’ objections and clearing the way for re-export of some or all of the shipment, without speculating on whether that in fact did happen. In a sense mine is a hypothetical answer to a hypothetical question. (4) Notwithstanding the President’s warning, I am unaware of any connection of our colleagues in the Greens (WA) with the incident that occurred in Portland.
(4) Does it not also demonstrate that the actions of the animal liberationists, the Greens and the Democrats were irresponsible and bordering on treason in respect of this unfortunate incident? The PRESIDENT: Order! The minister will be aware that the last part of the question is out of order and he ought not answer it. When we get past the pre-oration and the final out-of-order part, I think there is a part that is in order. The minister may answer the part that is in order. Hon KIM CHANCE replied: Thank you, Mr President. I will try to work that out, given that the question that I have in writing is a little different from that which was asked. (1)-(2) I am unable to confirm that the sheep from the Cormo Express , which were unloaded in Eritrea were subsequently on-sold to Saudi Arabia. The sheep were donated to the Government of Eritrea and their fate is a matter for the Government of Eritrea. (3) This question assumes that the sheep from the Cormo Express subsequently ended up in Saudi Arabia. I cannot confirm this result. However, it is possible that disease symptoms, if they existed at all, may have disappeared, thus removing Saudi veterinarians’ objections and clearing the way for re-export of some or all of the shipment, without speculating on whether that in fact did happen. In a sense mine is a hypothetical answer to a hypothetical question. (4) Notwithstanding the President’s warning, I am unaware of any connection of our colleagues in the Greens (WA) with the incident that occurred in Portland.
The PRESIDENT: Order! The minister will be aware that the last part of the question is out of order and he ought not answer it. When we get past the pre-oration and the final out-of-order part, I think there is a part that is in order. The minister may answer the part that is in order. Hon KIM CHANCE replied: Thank you, Mr President. I will try to work that out, given that the question that I have in writing is a little different from that which was asked. (1)-(2) I am unable to confirm that the sheep from the Cormo Express , which were unloaded in Eritrea were subsequently on-sold to Saudi Arabia. The sheep were donated to the Government of Eritrea and their fate is a matter for the Government of Eritrea. (3) This question assumes that the sheep from the Cormo Express subsequently ended up in Saudi Arabia. I cannot confirm this result. However, it is possible that disease symptoms, if they existed at all, may have disappeared, thus removing Saudi veterinarians’ objections and clearing the way for re-export of some or all of the shipment, without speculating on whether that in fact did happen. In a sense mine is a hypothetical answer to a hypothetical question. (4) Notwithstanding the President’s warning, I am unaware of any connection of our colleagues in the Greens (WA) with the incident that occurred in Portland.
Hon KIM CHANCE replied: Thank you, Mr President. I will try to work that out, given that the question that I have in writing is a little different from that which was asked. (1)-(2) I am unable to confirm that the sheep from the Cormo Express , which were unloaded in Eritrea were subsequently on-sold to Saudi Arabia. The sheep were donated to the Government of Eritrea and their fate is a matter for the Government of Eritrea. (3) This question assumes that the sheep from the Cormo Express subsequently ended up in Saudi Arabia. I cannot confirm this result. However, it is possible that disease symptoms, if they existed at all, may have disappeared, thus removing Saudi veterinarians’ objections and clearing the way for re-export of some or all of the shipment, without speculating on whether that in fact did happen. In a sense mine is a hypothetical answer to a hypothetical question. (4) Notwithstanding the President’s warning, I am unaware of any connection of our colleagues in the Greens (WA) with the incident that occurred in Portland.
Thank you, Mr President. I will try to work that out, given that the question that I have in writing is a little different from that which was asked. (1)-(2) I am unable to confirm that the sheep from the Cormo Express , which were unloaded in Eritrea were subsequently on-sold to Saudi Arabia. The sheep were donated to the Government of Eritrea and their fate is a matter for the Government of Eritrea. (3) This question assumes that the sheep from the Cormo Express subsequently ended up in Saudi Arabia. I cannot confirm this result. However, it is possible that disease symptoms, if they existed at all, may have disappeared, thus removing Saudi veterinarians’ objections and clearing the way for re-export of some or all of the shipment, without speculating on whether that in fact did happen. In a sense mine is a hypothetical answer to a hypothetical question. (4) Notwithstanding the President’s warning, I am unaware of any connection of our colleagues in the Greens (WA) with the incident that occurred in Portland.
(1)-(2) I am unable to confirm that the sheep from the Cormo Express , which were unloaded in Eritrea were subsequently on-sold to Saudi Arabia. The sheep were donated to the Government of Eritrea and their fate is a matter for the Government of Eritrea. (3) This question assumes that the sheep from the Cormo Express subsequently ended up in Saudi Arabia. I cannot confirm this result. However, it is possible that disease symptoms, if they existed at all, may have disappeared, thus removing Saudi veterinarians’ objections and clearing the way for re-export of some or all of the shipment, without speculating on whether that in fact did happen. In a sense mine is a hypothetical answer to a hypothetical question. (4) Notwithstanding the President’s warning, I am unaware of any connection of our colleagues in the Greens (WA) with the incident that occurred in Portland.
(3) This question assumes that the sheep from the Cormo Express subsequently ended up in Saudi Arabia. I cannot confirm this result. However, it is possible that disease symptoms, if they existed at all, may have disappeared, thus removing Saudi veterinarians’ objections and clearing the way for re-export of some or all of the shipment, without speculating on whether that in fact did happen. In a sense mine is a hypothetical answer to a hypothetical question. (4) Notwithstanding the President’s warning, I am unaware of any connection of our colleagues in the Greens (WA) with the incident that occurred in Portland.
(4) Notwithstanding the President’s warning, I am unaware of any connection of our colleagues in the Greens (WA) with the incident that occurred in Portland.
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