A parliamentary question regarding the feasibility of moving Year 7 students into high school, with the Premier responding by downplaying concerns and providing information about the report's progress and consultation.

AnsweredQoN 504Legislative Assembly
Asked
22 August 2006
Portfolio
Premier

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HIGH SCHOOLS - INCLUSION OF YEAR 7 STUDENTS
Given that the Minister for Education and Training indicated in Parliament on 10 May 2006 that a report is being prepared this month by the Department of Education and Training into the feasibility of year 7s being moved into the high school environment - (1) Is the Premier aware of the considerable amount of confusion and distress being generated by the proposal to move year 7 students into high school? (2) Who was consulted in the preparation of the report? (3) When will the report be made public and further consultation enabled? Mr A.J. CARPENTER

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I thank the member for some notice of the question. I have some advice on that question from the Minister for Education and Training. Before I provide that advice, I will make some commentary on this issue. No, I am not aware of the distress that the member mentioned. If there is, I hope he is not a part of whipping up that distress. This issue has been ongoing since before I became the education minister in 2001. We have seen a change in starting ages, the development of the middle school in pedagogy and the movement of children starting at an older age through the cohort of years 1 to 7. Generally, new high schools are being built to start with year 7 students because about 50 per cent of year 7 students will turn 13 in that year. As far as I am aware, parents have been aware of that issue for years. It was raised with the previous education minister and it was raised with me. There was discussion about it. There are all sorts of limitations and practical restrictions on how far we can go on this issue. I inform the member that there are schools in the metropolitan area and in the country at which students begin the secondary part of their education in years 5 or 6. Kinross College starts students in years 5 or 6. There is absolutely nothing new in this movement whatsoever. I find it somewhat disturbing that some members of Parliament seem to be unaware of that. They should inform themselves so that they do not misinform their electorates. The answer to the question is as follows - (1) No. (2) The report being prepared is a technical document drawing together the potential costs, evidence of the potential to improve student learning, and the impact on student wellbeing. A representative reference group is assisting with the technical report (3) The report is to be provided to the Minister for Education and Training by the end of the month.
(1) Is the Premier aware of the considerable amount of confusion and distress being generated by the proposal to move year 7 students into high school? (2) Who was consulted in the preparation of the report? (3) When will the report be made public and further consultation enabled? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: I thank the member for some notice of the question. I have some advice on that question from the Minister for Education and Training. Before I provide that advice, I will make some commentary on this issue. No, I am not aware of the distress that the member mentioned. If there is, I hope he is not a part of whipping up that distress. This issue has been ongoing since before I became the education minister in 2001. We have seen a change in starting ages, the development of the middle school in pedagogy and the movement of children starting at an older age through the cohort of years 1 to 7. Generally, new high schools are being built to start with year 7 students because about 50 per cent of year 7 students will turn 13 in that year. As far as I am aware, parents have been aware of that issue for years. It was raised with the previous education minister and it was raised with me. There was discussion about it. There are all sorts of limitations and practical restrictions on how far we can go on this issue. I inform the member that there are schools in the metropolitan area and in the country at which students begin the secondary part of their education in years 5 or 6. Kinross College starts students in years 5 or 6. There is absolutely nothing new in this movement whatsoever. I find it somewhat disturbing that some members of Parliament seem to be unaware of that. They should inform themselves so that they do not misinform their electorates. The answer to the question is as follows - (1) No. (2) The report being prepared is a technical document drawing together the potential costs, evidence of the potential to improve student learning, and the impact on student wellbeing. A representative reference group is assisting with the technical report (3) The report is to be provided to the Minister for Education and Training by the end of the month.
(2) Who was consulted in the preparation of the report? (3) When will the report be made public and further consultation enabled? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: I thank the member for some notice of the question. I have some advice on that question from the Minister for Education and Training. Before I provide that advice, I will make some commentary on this issue. No, I am not aware of the distress that the member mentioned. If there is, I hope he is not a part of whipping up that distress. This issue has been ongoing since before I became the education minister in 2001. We have seen a change in starting ages, the development of the middle school in pedagogy and the movement of children starting at an older age through the cohort of years 1 to 7. Generally, new high schools are being built to start with year 7 students because about 50 per cent of year 7 students will turn 13 in that year. As far as I am aware, parents have been aware of that issue for years. It was raised with the previous education minister and it was raised with me. There was discussion about it. There are all sorts of limitations and practical restrictions on how far we can go on this issue. I inform the member that there are schools in the metropolitan area and in the country at which students begin the secondary part of their education in years 5 or 6. Kinross College starts students in years 5 or 6. There is absolutely nothing new in this movement whatsoever. I find it somewhat disturbing that some members of Parliament seem to be unaware of that. They should inform themselves so that they do not misinform their electorates. The answer to the question is as follows - (1) No. (2) The report being prepared is a technical document drawing together the potential costs, evidence of the potential to improve student learning, and the impact on student wellbeing. A representative reference group is assisting with the technical report (3) The report is to be provided to the Minister for Education and Training by the end of the month.
(3) When will the report be made public and further consultation enabled? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: I thank the member for some notice of the question. I have some advice on that question from the Minister for Education and Training. Before I provide that advice, I will make some commentary on this issue. No, I am not aware of the distress that the member mentioned. If there is, I hope he is not a part of whipping up that distress. This issue has been ongoing since before I became the education minister in 2001. We have seen a change in starting ages, the development of the middle school in pedagogy and the movement of children starting at an older age through the cohort of years 1 to 7. Generally, new high schools are being built to start with year 7 students because about 50 per cent of year 7 students will turn 13 in that year. As far as I am aware, parents have been aware of that issue for years. It was raised with the previous education minister and it was raised with me. There was discussion about it. There are all sorts of limitations and practical restrictions on how far we can go on this issue. I inform the member that there are schools in the metropolitan area and in the country at which students begin the secondary part of their education in years 5 or 6. Kinross College starts students in years 5 or 6. There is absolutely nothing new in this movement whatsoever. I find it somewhat disturbing that some members of Parliament seem to be unaware of that. They should inform themselves so that they do not misinform their electorates. The answer to the question is as follows - (1) No. (2) The report being prepared is a technical document drawing together the potential costs, evidence of the potential to improve student learning, and the impact on student wellbeing. A representative reference group is assisting with the technical report (3) The report is to be provided to the Minister for Education and Training by the end of the month.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: I thank the member for some notice of the question. I have some advice on that question from the Minister for Education and Training. Before I provide that advice, I will make some commentary on this issue. No, I am not aware of the distress that the member mentioned. If there is, I hope he is not a part of whipping up that distress. This issue has been ongoing since before I became the education minister in 2001. We have seen a change in starting ages, the development of the middle school in pedagogy and the movement of children starting at an older age through the cohort of years 1 to 7. Generally, new high schools are being built to start with year 7 students because about 50 per cent of year 7 students will turn 13 in that year. As far as I am aware, parents have been aware of that issue for years. It was raised with the previous education minister and it was raised with me. There was discussion about it. There are all sorts of limitations and practical restrictions on how far we can go on this issue. I inform the member that there are schools in the metropolitan area and in the country at which students begin the secondary part of their education in years 5 or 6. Kinross College starts students in years 5 or 6. There is absolutely nothing new in this movement whatsoever. I find it somewhat disturbing that some members of Parliament seem to be unaware of that. They should inform themselves so that they do not misinform their electorates. The answer to the question is as follows - (1) No. (2) The report being prepared is a technical document drawing together the potential costs, evidence of the potential to improve student learning, and the impact on student wellbeing. A representative reference group is assisting with the technical report (3) The report is to be provided to the Minister for Education and Training by the end of the month.
I thank the member for some notice of the question. I have some advice on that question from the Minister for Education and Training. Before I provide that advice, I will make some commentary on this issue. No, I am not aware of the distress that the member mentioned. If there is, I hope he is not a part of whipping up that distress. This issue has been ongoing since before I became the education minister in 2001. We have seen a change in starting ages, the development of the middle school in pedagogy and the movement of children starting at an older age through the cohort of years 1 to 7. Generally, new high schools are being built to start with year 7 students because about 50 per cent of year 7 students will turn 13 in that year. As far as I am aware, parents have been aware of that issue for years. It was raised with the previous education minister and it was raised with me. There was discussion about it. There are all sorts of limitations and practical restrictions on how far we can go on this issue. I inform the member that there are schools in the metropolitan area and in the country at which students begin the secondary part of their education in years 5 or 6. Kinross College starts students in years 5 or 6. There is absolutely nothing new in this movement whatsoever. I find it somewhat disturbing that some members of Parliament seem to be unaware of that. They should inform themselves so that they do not misinform their electorates. The answer to the question is as follows - (1) No. (2) The report being prepared is a technical document drawing together the potential costs, evidence of the potential to improve student learning, and the impact on student wellbeing. A representative reference group is assisting with the technical report (3) The report is to be provided to the Minister for Education and Training by the end of the month.
The answer to the question is as follows - (1) No. (2) The report being prepared is a technical document drawing together the potential costs, evidence of the potential to improve student learning, and the impact on student wellbeing. A representative reference group is assisting with the technical report (3) The report is to be provided to the Minister for Education and Training by the end of the month.
(1) No. (2) The report being prepared is a technical document drawing together the potential costs, evidence of the potential to improve student learning, and the impact on student wellbeing. A representative reference group is assisting with the technical report (3) The report is to be provided to the Minister for Education and Training by the end of the month.
(2) The report being prepared is a technical document drawing together the potential costs, evidence of the potential to improve student learning, and the impact on student wellbeing. A representative reference group is assisting with the technical report (3) The report is to be provided to the Minister for Education and Training by the end of the month.
(3) The report is to be provided to the Minister for Education and Training by the end of the month.

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