❓ Question regarding projected container movements at Fremantle Port and the impact on road transport. The Minister rejects the premise and outlines the government's multi-faceted approach to freight management.
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I refer to the projections of shipping container movements into and out of the port of Fremantle. (1) Does the minister accept that when the port reaches capacity, container movements will have increased from the current figure of 350 000 containers to up to 900 000 containers? (2) Does the minister accept that even with 30 per cent of these 900 000 containers being transported by rail, it will still leave up to 630 000 container movements a year to be carried by road transport, an increase of up to 270 000 containers or 80 per cent? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN
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(1)-(2) I thank the member for this opportunity to go through once again the Government’s creative, six-stage program to deal with the real problem of getting freight into and out of the Fremantle port. As I said in the grievance debate this morning, having lines on a map does not solve a single traffic problem. All that members opposite were prepared to do was draw a line on a map. They were not prepared to actually tackle the problem. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Do you accept - Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No; I do not accept it, and if the member will keep quiet for a moment, I will explain why I do not accept it. I will outline the first principle. The member participated in the freight review and I urge her to read the documents that came out of it. The Government does not accept that the Fremantle inner harbour will continue to grow until 2017. It does not accept that its ultimate limit on growth will be the harbour capacity. It accepts that the matter of ingress and egress has to be a limit in itself. For that reason it has commenced the planning. Mr C.J. Barnett: What is the limit? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I know that the Leader of the Opposition has the concentration span of a housefly and if a question cannot be answered in 25 words or less, he does not want to know. This is a complex matter. The inner harbour will not develop to the ultimate harbour capacity alone. Its future growth will be governed by its capacity to get vehicles in and out. For that reason, planning for the outer harbour has commenced. The Government wants to get the approvals under way so the facilities can be on-stream within the next 10 to 12 years. The process of getting freight from road onto rail has commenced. It has never been the total solution; we have to get much smarter about the logistics. Approximately 40 per cent of the trucks entering Fremantle carry in containers but leave empty. We can do better than that. A logistical system is being devised to develop a truck booking system and a better spread of hours to ensure better efficiency. Mr C.J. Barnett: Stop the waffle! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not waffle; it is a well-thought-through solution to the problem. The Leader of the Opposition is stuck in the 1960s. All he can think is that if there is a freight problem we should mow down suburbs and build more roads. The Government is not going to do that. Another part of the strategy is to build inland container terminals. That is very important. Many of the trucks going in and out of Fremantle carry empty containers. Containers can be located much more profitably well outside Fremantle. The Government has a complex set of solutions, not just the old solution of, “If we have to move freight, let’s build more roads!” Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! It is inappropriate for members to interject and badger the minister to put her off her answer. The member for Carine is perfectly capable of interjecting, and a certain level of tolerance is given. The level of interjection that other members think they have a right to is intolerable.
(1) Does the minister accept that when the port reaches capacity, container movements will have increased from the current figure of 350 000 containers to up to 900 000 containers? (2) Does the minister accept that even with 30 per cent of these 900 000 containers being transported by rail, it will still leave up to 630 000 container movements a year to be carried by road transport, an increase of up to 270 000 containers or 80 per cent? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for this opportunity to go through once again the Government’s creative, six-stage program to deal with the real problem of getting freight into and out of the Fremantle port. As I said in the grievance debate this morning, having lines on a map does not solve a single traffic problem. All that members opposite were prepared to do was draw a line on a map. They were not prepared to actually tackle the problem. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Do you accept - Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No; I do not accept it, and if the member will keep quiet for a moment, I will explain why I do not accept it. I will outline the first principle. The member participated in the freight review and I urge her to read the documents that came out of it. The Government does not accept that the Fremantle inner harbour will continue to grow until 2017. It does not accept that its ultimate limit on growth will be the harbour capacity. It accepts that the matter of ingress and egress has to be a limit in itself. For that reason it has commenced the planning. Mr C.J. Barnett: What is the limit? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I know that the Leader of the Opposition has the concentration span of a housefly and if a question cannot be answered in 25 words or less, he does not want to know. This is a complex matter. The inner harbour will not develop to the ultimate harbour capacity alone. Its future growth will be governed by its capacity to get vehicles in and out. For that reason, planning for the outer harbour has commenced. The Government wants to get the approvals under way so the facilities can be on-stream within the next 10 to 12 years. The process of getting freight from road onto rail has commenced. It has never been the total solution; we have to get much smarter about the logistics. Approximately 40 per cent of the trucks entering Fremantle carry in containers but leave empty. We can do better than that. A logistical system is being devised to develop a truck booking system and a better spread of hours to ensure better efficiency. Mr C.J. Barnett: Stop the waffle! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not waffle; it is a well-thought-through solution to the problem. The Leader of the Opposition is stuck in the 1960s. All he can think is that if there is a freight problem we should mow down suburbs and build more roads. The Government is not going to do that. Another part of the strategy is to build inland container terminals. That is very important. Many of the trucks going in and out of Fremantle carry empty containers. Containers can be located much more profitably well outside Fremantle. The Government has a complex set of solutions, not just the old solution of, “If we have to move freight, let’s build more roads!” Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! It is inappropriate for members to interject and badger the minister to put her off her answer. The member for Carine is perfectly capable of interjecting, and a certain level of tolerance is given. The level of interjection that other members think they have a right to is intolerable.
(2) Does the minister accept that even with 30 per cent of these 900 000 containers being transported by rail, it will still leave up to 630 000 container movements a year to be carried by road transport, an increase of up to 270 000 containers or 80 per cent? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for this opportunity to go through once again the Government’s creative, six-stage program to deal with the real problem of getting freight into and out of the Fremantle port. As I said in the grievance debate this morning, having lines on a map does not solve a single traffic problem. All that members opposite were prepared to do was draw a line on a map. They were not prepared to actually tackle the problem. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Do you accept - Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No; I do not accept it, and if the member will keep quiet for a moment, I will explain why I do not accept it. I will outline the first principle. The member participated in the freight review and I urge her to read the documents that came out of it. The Government does not accept that the Fremantle inner harbour will continue to grow until 2017. It does not accept that its ultimate limit on growth will be the harbour capacity. It accepts that the matter of ingress and egress has to be a limit in itself. For that reason it has commenced the planning. Mr C.J. Barnett: What is the limit? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I know that the Leader of the Opposition has the concentration span of a housefly and if a question cannot be answered in 25 words or less, he does not want to know. This is a complex matter. The inner harbour will not develop to the ultimate harbour capacity alone. Its future growth will be governed by its capacity to get vehicles in and out. For that reason, planning for the outer harbour has commenced. The Government wants to get the approvals under way so the facilities can be on-stream within the next 10 to 12 years. The process of getting freight from road onto rail has commenced. It has never been the total solution; we have to get much smarter about the logistics. Approximately 40 per cent of the trucks entering Fremantle carry in containers but leave empty. We can do better than that. A logistical system is being devised to develop a truck booking system and a better spread of hours to ensure better efficiency. Mr C.J. Barnett: Stop the waffle! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not waffle; it is a well-thought-through solution to the problem. The Leader of the Opposition is stuck in the 1960s. All he can think is that if there is a freight problem we should mow down suburbs and build more roads. The Government is not going to do that. Another part of the strategy is to build inland container terminals. That is very important. Many of the trucks going in and out of Fremantle carry empty containers. Containers can be located much more profitably well outside Fremantle. The Government has a complex set of solutions, not just the old solution of, “If we have to move freight, let’s build more roads!” Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! It is inappropriate for members to interject and badger the minister to put her off her answer. The member for Carine is perfectly capable of interjecting, and a certain level of tolerance is given. The level of interjection that other members think they have a right to is intolerable.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for this opportunity to go through once again the Government’s creative, six-stage program to deal with the real problem of getting freight into and out of the Fremantle port. As I said in the grievance debate this morning, having lines on a map does not solve a single traffic problem. All that members opposite were prepared to do was draw a line on a map. They were not prepared to actually tackle the problem. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Do you accept - Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No; I do not accept it, and if the member will keep quiet for a moment, I will explain why I do not accept it. I will outline the first principle. The member participated in the freight review and I urge her to read the documents that came out of it. The Government does not accept that the Fremantle inner harbour will continue to grow until 2017. It does not accept that its ultimate limit on growth will be the harbour capacity. It accepts that the matter of ingress and egress has to be a limit in itself. For that reason it has commenced the planning. Mr C.J. Barnett: What is the limit? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I know that the Leader of the Opposition has the concentration span of a housefly and if a question cannot be answered in 25 words or less, he does not want to know. This is a complex matter. The inner harbour will not develop to the ultimate harbour capacity alone. Its future growth will be governed by its capacity to get vehicles in and out. For that reason, planning for the outer harbour has commenced. The Government wants to get the approvals under way so the facilities can be on-stream within the next 10 to 12 years. The process of getting freight from road onto rail has commenced. It has never been the total solution; we have to get much smarter about the logistics. Approximately 40 per cent of the trucks entering Fremantle carry in containers but leave empty. We can do better than that. A logistical system is being devised to develop a truck booking system and a better spread of hours to ensure better efficiency. Mr C.J. Barnett: Stop the waffle! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not waffle; it is a well-thought-through solution to the problem. The Leader of the Opposition is stuck in the 1960s. All he can think is that if there is a freight problem we should mow down suburbs and build more roads. The Government is not going to do that. Another part of the strategy is to build inland container terminals. That is very important. Many of the trucks going in and out of Fremantle carry empty containers. Containers can be located much more profitably well outside Fremantle. The Government has a complex set of solutions, not just the old solution of, “If we have to move freight, let’s build more roads!” Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! It is inappropriate for members to interject and badger the minister to put her off her answer. The member for Carine is perfectly capable of interjecting, and a certain level of tolerance is given. The level of interjection that other members think they have a right to is intolerable.
(1)-(2) I thank the member for this opportunity to go through once again the Government’s creative, six-stage program to deal with the real problem of getting freight into and out of the Fremantle port. As I said in the grievance debate this morning, having lines on a map does not solve a single traffic problem. All that members opposite were prepared to do was draw a line on a map. They were not prepared to actually tackle the problem. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Do you accept - Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No; I do not accept it, and if the member will keep quiet for a moment, I will explain why I do not accept it. I will outline the first principle. The member participated in the freight review and I urge her to read the documents that came out of it. The Government does not accept that the Fremantle inner harbour will continue to grow until 2017. It does not accept that its ultimate limit on growth will be the harbour capacity. It accepts that the matter of ingress and egress has to be a limit in itself. For that reason it has commenced the planning. Mr C.J. Barnett: What is the limit? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I know that the Leader of the Opposition has the concentration span of a housefly and if a question cannot be answered in 25 words or less, he does not want to know. This is a complex matter. The inner harbour will not develop to the ultimate harbour capacity alone. Its future growth will be governed by its capacity to get vehicles in and out. For that reason, planning for the outer harbour has commenced. The Government wants to get the approvals under way so the facilities can be on-stream within the next 10 to 12 years. The process of getting freight from road onto rail has commenced. It has never been the total solution; we have to get much smarter about the logistics. Approximately 40 per cent of the trucks entering Fremantle carry in containers but leave empty. We can do better than that. A logistical system is being devised to develop a truck booking system and a better spread of hours to ensure better efficiency. Mr C.J. Barnett: Stop the waffle! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not waffle; it is a well-thought-through solution to the problem. The Leader of the Opposition is stuck in the 1960s. All he can think is that if there is a freight problem we should mow down suburbs and build more roads. The Government is not going to do that. Another part of the strategy is to build inland container terminals. That is very important. Many of the trucks going in and out of Fremantle carry empty containers. Containers can be located much more profitably well outside Fremantle. The Government has a complex set of solutions, not just the old solution of, “If we have to move freight, let’s build more roads!” Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! It is inappropriate for members to interject and badger the minister to put her off her answer. The member for Carine is perfectly capable of interjecting, and a certain level of tolerance is given. The level of interjection that other members think they have a right to is intolerable.
Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Do you accept - Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No; I do not accept it, and if the member will keep quiet for a moment, I will explain why I do not accept it. I will outline the first principle. The member participated in the freight review and I urge her to read the documents that came out of it. The Government does not accept that the Fremantle inner harbour will continue to grow until 2017. It does not accept that its ultimate limit on growth will be the harbour capacity. It accepts that the matter of ingress and egress has to be a limit in itself. For that reason it has commenced the planning. Mr C.J. Barnett: What is the limit? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I know that the Leader of the Opposition has the concentration span of a housefly and if a question cannot be answered in 25 words or less, he does not want to know. This is a complex matter. The inner harbour will not develop to the ultimate harbour capacity alone. Its future growth will be governed by its capacity to get vehicles in and out. For that reason, planning for the outer harbour has commenced. The Government wants to get the approvals under way so the facilities can be on-stream within the next 10 to 12 years. The process of getting freight from road onto rail has commenced. It has never been the total solution; we have to get much smarter about the logistics. Approximately 40 per cent of the trucks entering Fremantle carry in containers but leave empty. We can do better than that. A logistical system is being devised to develop a truck booking system and a better spread of hours to ensure better efficiency. Mr C.J. Barnett: Stop the waffle! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not waffle; it is a well-thought-through solution to the problem. The Leader of the Opposition is stuck in the 1960s. All he can think is that if there is a freight problem we should mow down suburbs and build more roads. The Government is not going to do that. Another part of the strategy is to build inland container terminals. That is very important. Many of the trucks going in and out of Fremantle carry empty containers. Containers can be located much more profitably well outside Fremantle. The Government has a complex set of solutions, not just the old solution of, “If we have to move freight, let’s build more roads!” Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! It is inappropriate for members to interject and badger the minister to put her off her answer. The member for Carine is perfectly capable of interjecting, and a certain level of tolerance is given. The level of interjection that other members think they have a right to is intolerable.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No; I do not accept it, and if the member will keep quiet for a moment, I will explain why I do not accept it. I will outline the first principle. The member participated in the freight review and I urge her to read the documents that came out of it. The Government does not accept that the Fremantle inner harbour will continue to grow until 2017. It does not accept that its ultimate limit on growth will be the harbour capacity. It accepts that the matter of ingress and egress has to be a limit in itself. For that reason it has commenced the planning. Mr C.J. Barnett: What is the limit? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I know that the Leader of the Opposition has the concentration span of a housefly and if a question cannot be answered in 25 words or less, he does not want to know. This is a complex matter. The inner harbour will not develop to the ultimate harbour capacity alone. Its future growth will be governed by its capacity to get vehicles in and out. For that reason, planning for the outer harbour has commenced. The Government wants to get the approvals under way so the facilities can be on-stream within the next 10 to 12 years. The process of getting freight from road onto rail has commenced. It has never been the total solution; we have to get much smarter about the logistics. Approximately 40 per cent of the trucks entering Fremantle carry in containers but leave empty. We can do better than that. A logistical system is being devised to develop a truck booking system and a better spread of hours to ensure better efficiency. Mr C.J. Barnett: Stop the waffle! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not waffle; it is a well-thought-through solution to the problem. The Leader of the Opposition is stuck in the 1960s. All he can think is that if there is a freight problem we should mow down suburbs and build more roads. The Government is not going to do that. Another part of the strategy is to build inland container terminals. That is very important. Many of the trucks going in and out of Fremantle carry empty containers. Containers can be located much more profitably well outside Fremantle. The Government has a complex set of solutions, not just the old solution of, “If we have to move freight, let’s build more roads!” Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! It is inappropriate for members to interject and badger the minister to put her off her answer. The member for Carine is perfectly capable of interjecting, and a certain level of tolerance is given. The level of interjection that other members think they have a right to is intolerable.
Mr C.J. Barnett: What is the limit? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I know that the Leader of the Opposition has the concentration span of a housefly and if a question cannot be answered in 25 words or less, he does not want to know. This is a complex matter. The inner harbour will not develop to the ultimate harbour capacity alone. Its future growth will be governed by its capacity to get vehicles in and out. For that reason, planning for the outer harbour has commenced. The Government wants to get the approvals under way so the facilities can be on-stream within the next 10 to 12 years. The process of getting freight from road onto rail has commenced. It has never been the total solution; we have to get much smarter about the logistics. Approximately 40 per cent of the trucks entering Fremantle carry in containers but leave empty. We can do better than that. A logistical system is being devised to develop a truck booking system and a better spread of hours to ensure better efficiency. Mr C.J. Barnett: Stop the waffle! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not waffle; it is a well-thought-through solution to the problem. The Leader of the Opposition is stuck in the 1960s. All he can think is that if there is a freight problem we should mow down suburbs and build more roads. The Government is not going to do that. Another part of the strategy is to build inland container terminals. That is very important. Many of the trucks going in and out of Fremantle carry empty containers. Containers can be located much more profitably well outside Fremantle. The Government has a complex set of solutions, not just the old solution of, “If we have to move freight, let’s build more roads!” Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! It is inappropriate for members to interject and badger the minister to put her off her answer. The member for Carine is perfectly capable of interjecting, and a certain level of tolerance is given. The level of interjection that other members think they have a right to is intolerable.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I know that the Leader of the Opposition has the concentration span of a housefly and if a question cannot be answered in 25 words or less, he does not want to know. This is a complex matter. The inner harbour will not develop to the ultimate harbour capacity alone. Its future growth will be governed by its capacity to get vehicles in and out. For that reason, planning for the outer harbour has commenced. The Government wants to get the approvals under way so the facilities can be on-stream within the next 10 to 12 years. The process of getting freight from road onto rail has commenced. It has never been the total solution; we have to get much smarter about the logistics. Approximately 40 per cent of the trucks entering Fremantle carry in containers but leave empty. We can do better than that. A logistical system is being devised to develop a truck booking system and a better spread of hours to ensure better efficiency. Mr C.J. Barnett: Stop the waffle! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not waffle; it is a well-thought-through solution to the problem. The Leader of the Opposition is stuck in the 1960s. All he can think is that if there is a freight problem we should mow down suburbs and build more roads. The Government is not going to do that. Another part of the strategy is to build inland container terminals. That is very important. Many of the trucks going in and out of Fremantle carry empty containers. Containers can be located much more profitably well outside Fremantle. The Government has a complex set of solutions, not just the old solution of, “If we have to move freight, let’s build more roads!” Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! It is inappropriate for members to interject and badger the minister to put her off her answer. The member for Carine is perfectly capable of interjecting, and a certain level of tolerance is given. The level of interjection that other members think they have a right to is intolerable.
Mr C.J. Barnett: Stop the waffle! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not waffle; it is a well-thought-through solution to the problem. The Leader of the Opposition is stuck in the 1960s. All he can think is that if there is a freight problem we should mow down suburbs and build more roads. The Government is not going to do that. Another part of the strategy is to build inland container terminals. That is very important. Many of the trucks going in and out of Fremantle carry empty containers. Containers can be located much more profitably well outside Fremantle. The Government has a complex set of solutions, not just the old solution of, “If we have to move freight, let’s build more roads!” Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! It is inappropriate for members to interject and badger the minister to put her off her answer. The member for Carine is perfectly capable of interjecting, and a certain level of tolerance is given. The level of interjection that other members think they have a right to is intolerable.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not waffle; it is a well-thought-through solution to the problem. The Leader of the Opposition is stuck in the 1960s. All he can think is that if there is a freight problem we should mow down suburbs and build more roads. The Government is not going to do that. Another part of the strategy is to build inland container terminals. That is very important. Many of the trucks going in and out of Fremantle carry empty containers. Containers can be located much more profitably well outside Fremantle. The Government has a complex set of solutions, not just the old solution of, “If we have to move freight, let’s build more roads!” Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! It is inappropriate for members to interject and badger the minister to put her off her answer. The member for Carine is perfectly capable of interjecting, and a certain level of tolerance is given. The level of interjection that other members think they have a right to is intolerable.
Another part of the strategy is to build inland container terminals. That is very important. Many of the trucks going in and out of Fremantle carry empty containers. Containers can be located much more profitably well outside Fremantle. The Government has a complex set of solutions, not just the old solution of, “If we have to move freight, let’s build more roads!” Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! It is inappropriate for members to interject and badger the minister to put her off her answer. The member for Carine is perfectly capable of interjecting, and a certain level of tolerance is given. The level of interjection that other members think they have a right to is intolerable.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! It is inappropriate for members to interject and badger the minister to put her off her answer. The member for Carine is perfectly capable of interjecting, and a certain level of tolerance is given. The level of interjection that other members think they have a right to is intolerable.
The SPEAKER: Order, members! It is inappropriate for members to interject and badger the minister to put her off her answer. The member for Carine is perfectly capable of interjecting, and a certain level of tolerance is given. The level of interjection that other members think they have a right to is intolerable.
(1) Does the minister accept that when the port reaches capacity, container movements will have increased from the current figure of 350 000 containers to up to 900 000 containers? (2) Does the minister accept that even with 30 per cent of these 900 000 containers being transported by rail, it will still leave up to 630 000 container movements a year to be carried by road transport, an increase of up to 270 000 containers or 80 per cent? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for this opportunity to go through once again the Government’s creative, six-stage program to deal with the real problem of getting freight into and out of the Fremantle port. As I said in the grievance debate this morning, having lines on a map does not solve a single traffic problem. All that members opposite were prepared to do was draw a line on a map. They were not prepared to actually tackle the problem. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Do you accept - Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No; I do not accept it, and if the member will keep quiet for a moment, I will explain why I do not accept it. I will outline the first principle. The member participated in the freight review and I urge her to read the documents that came out of it. The Government does not accept that the Fremantle inner harbour will continue to grow until 2017. It does not accept that its ultimate limit on growth will be the harbour capacity. It accepts that the matter of ingress and egress has to be a limit in itself. For that reason it has commenced the planning. Mr C.J. Barnett: What is the limit? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I know that the Leader of the Opposition has the concentration span of a housefly and if a question cannot be answered in 25 words or less, he does not want to know. This is a complex matter. The inner harbour will not develop to the ultimate harbour capacity alone. Its future growth will be governed by its capacity to get vehicles in and out. For that reason, planning for the outer harbour has commenced. The Government wants to get the approvals under way so the facilities can be on-stream within the next 10 to 12 years. The process of getting freight from road onto rail has commenced. It has never been the total solution; we have to get much smarter about the logistics. Approximately 40 per cent of the trucks entering Fremantle carry in containers but leave empty. We can do better than that. A logistical system is being devised to develop a truck booking system and a better spread of hours to ensure better efficiency. Mr C.J. Barnett: Stop the waffle! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not waffle; it is a well-thought-through solution to the problem. The Leader of the Opposition is stuck in the 1960s. All he can think is that if there is a freight problem we should mow down suburbs and build more roads. The Government is not going to do that. Another part of the strategy is to build inland container terminals. That is very important. Many of the trucks going in and out of Fremantle carry empty containers. Containers can be located much more profitably well outside Fremantle. The Government has a complex set of solutions, not just the old solution of, “If we have to move freight, let’s build more roads!” Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! It is inappropriate for members to interject and badger the minister to put her off her answer. The member for Carine is perfectly capable of interjecting, and a certain level of tolerance is given. The level of interjection that other members think they have a right to is intolerable.
(2) Does the minister accept that even with 30 per cent of these 900 000 containers being transported by rail, it will still leave up to 630 000 container movements a year to be carried by road transport, an increase of up to 270 000 containers or 80 per cent? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for this opportunity to go through once again the Government’s creative, six-stage program to deal with the real problem of getting freight into and out of the Fremantle port. As I said in the grievance debate this morning, having lines on a map does not solve a single traffic problem. All that members opposite were prepared to do was draw a line on a map. They were not prepared to actually tackle the problem. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Do you accept - Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No; I do not accept it, and if the member will keep quiet for a moment, I will explain why I do not accept it. I will outline the first principle. The member participated in the freight review and I urge her to read the documents that came out of it. The Government does not accept that the Fremantle inner harbour will continue to grow until 2017. It does not accept that its ultimate limit on growth will be the harbour capacity. It accepts that the matter of ingress and egress has to be a limit in itself. For that reason it has commenced the planning. Mr C.J. Barnett: What is the limit? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I know that the Leader of the Opposition has the concentration span of a housefly and if a question cannot be answered in 25 words or less, he does not want to know. This is a complex matter. The inner harbour will not develop to the ultimate harbour capacity alone. Its future growth will be governed by its capacity to get vehicles in and out. For that reason, planning for the outer harbour has commenced. The Government wants to get the approvals under way so the facilities can be on-stream within the next 10 to 12 years. The process of getting freight from road onto rail has commenced. It has never been the total solution; we have to get much smarter about the logistics. Approximately 40 per cent of the trucks entering Fremantle carry in containers but leave empty. We can do better than that. A logistical system is being devised to develop a truck booking system and a better spread of hours to ensure better efficiency. Mr C.J. Barnett: Stop the waffle! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not waffle; it is a well-thought-through solution to the problem. The Leader of the Opposition is stuck in the 1960s. All he can think is that if there is a freight problem we should mow down suburbs and build more roads. The Government is not going to do that. Another part of the strategy is to build inland container terminals. That is very important. Many of the trucks going in and out of Fremantle carry empty containers. Containers can be located much more profitably well outside Fremantle. The Government has a complex set of solutions, not just the old solution of, “If we have to move freight, let’s build more roads!” Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! It is inappropriate for members to interject and badger the minister to put her off her answer. The member for Carine is perfectly capable of interjecting, and a certain level of tolerance is given. The level of interjection that other members think they have a right to is intolerable.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for this opportunity to go through once again the Government’s creative, six-stage program to deal with the real problem of getting freight into and out of the Fremantle port. As I said in the grievance debate this morning, having lines on a map does not solve a single traffic problem. All that members opposite were prepared to do was draw a line on a map. They were not prepared to actually tackle the problem. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Do you accept - Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No; I do not accept it, and if the member will keep quiet for a moment, I will explain why I do not accept it. I will outline the first principle. The member participated in the freight review and I urge her to read the documents that came out of it. The Government does not accept that the Fremantle inner harbour will continue to grow until 2017. It does not accept that its ultimate limit on growth will be the harbour capacity. It accepts that the matter of ingress and egress has to be a limit in itself. For that reason it has commenced the planning. Mr C.J. Barnett: What is the limit? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I know that the Leader of the Opposition has the concentration span of a housefly and if a question cannot be answered in 25 words or less, he does not want to know. This is a complex matter. The inner harbour will not develop to the ultimate harbour capacity alone. Its future growth will be governed by its capacity to get vehicles in and out. For that reason, planning for the outer harbour has commenced. The Government wants to get the approvals under way so the facilities can be on-stream within the next 10 to 12 years. The process of getting freight from road onto rail has commenced. It has never been the total solution; we have to get much smarter about the logistics. Approximately 40 per cent of the trucks entering Fremantle carry in containers but leave empty. We can do better than that. A logistical system is being devised to develop a truck booking system and a better spread of hours to ensure better efficiency. Mr C.J. Barnett: Stop the waffle! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not waffle; it is a well-thought-through solution to the problem. The Leader of the Opposition is stuck in the 1960s. All he can think is that if there is a freight problem we should mow down suburbs and build more roads. The Government is not going to do that. Another part of the strategy is to build inland container terminals. That is very important. Many of the trucks going in and out of Fremantle carry empty containers. Containers can be located much more profitably well outside Fremantle. The Government has a complex set of solutions, not just the old solution of, “If we have to move freight, let’s build more roads!” Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! It is inappropriate for members to interject and badger the minister to put her off her answer. The member for Carine is perfectly capable of interjecting, and a certain level of tolerance is given. The level of interjection that other members think they have a right to is intolerable.
(1)-(2) I thank the member for this opportunity to go through once again the Government’s creative, six-stage program to deal with the real problem of getting freight into and out of the Fremantle port. As I said in the grievance debate this morning, having lines on a map does not solve a single traffic problem. All that members opposite were prepared to do was draw a line on a map. They were not prepared to actually tackle the problem. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Do you accept - Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No; I do not accept it, and if the member will keep quiet for a moment, I will explain why I do not accept it. I will outline the first principle. The member participated in the freight review and I urge her to read the documents that came out of it. The Government does not accept that the Fremantle inner harbour will continue to grow until 2017. It does not accept that its ultimate limit on growth will be the harbour capacity. It accepts that the matter of ingress and egress has to be a limit in itself. For that reason it has commenced the planning. Mr C.J. Barnett: What is the limit? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I know that the Leader of the Opposition has the concentration span of a housefly and if a question cannot be answered in 25 words or less, he does not want to know. This is a complex matter. The inner harbour will not develop to the ultimate harbour capacity alone. Its future growth will be governed by its capacity to get vehicles in and out. For that reason, planning for the outer harbour has commenced. The Government wants to get the approvals under way so the facilities can be on-stream within the next 10 to 12 years. The process of getting freight from road onto rail has commenced. It has never been the total solution; we have to get much smarter about the logistics. Approximately 40 per cent of the trucks entering Fremantle carry in containers but leave empty. We can do better than that. A logistical system is being devised to develop a truck booking system and a better spread of hours to ensure better efficiency. Mr C.J. Barnett: Stop the waffle! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not waffle; it is a well-thought-through solution to the problem. The Leader of the Opposition is stuck in the 1960s. All he can think is that if there is a freight problem we should mow down suburbs and build more roads. The Government is not going to do that. Another part of the strategy is to build inland container terminals. That is very important. Many of the trucks going in and out of Fremantle carry empty containers. Containers can be located much more profitably well outside Fremantle. The Government has a complex set of solutions, not just the old solution of, “If we have to move freight, let’s build more roads!” Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! It is inappropriate for members to interject and badger the minister to put her off her answer. The member for Carine is perfectly capable of interjecting, and a certain level of tolerance is given. The level of interjection that other members think they have a right to is intolerable.
Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Do you accept - Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No; I do not accept it, and if the member will keep quiet for a moment, I will explain why I do not accept it. I will outline the first principle. The member participated in the freight review and I urge her to read the documents that came out of it. The Government does not accept that the Fremantle inner harbour will continue to grow until 2017. It does not accept that its ultimate limit on growth will be the harbour capacity. It accepts that the matter of ingress and egress has to be a limit in itself. For that reason it has commenced the planning. Mr C.J. Barnett: What is the limit? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I know that the Leader of the Opposition has the concentration span of a housefly and if a question cannot be answered in 25 words or less, he does not want to know. This is a complex matter. The inner harbour will not develop to the ultimate harbour capacity alone. Its future growth will be governed by its capacity to get vehicles in and out. For that reason, planning for the outer harbour has commenced. The Government wants to get the approvals under way so the facilities can be on-stream within the next 10 to 12 years. The process of getting freight from road onto rail has commenced. It has never been the total solution; we have to get much smarter about the logistics. Approximately 40 per cent of the trucks entering Fremantle carry in containers but leave empty. We can do better than that. A logistical system is being devised to develop a truck booking system and a better spread of hours to ensure better efficiency. Mr C.J. Barnett: Stop the waffle! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not waffle; it is a well-thought-through solution to the problem. The Leader of the Opposition is stuck in the 1960s. All he can think is that if there is a freight problem we should mow down suburbs and build more roads. The Government is not going to do that. Another part of the strategy is to build inland container terminals. That is very important. Many of the trucks going in and out of Fremantle carry empty containers. Containers can be located much more profitably well outside Fremantle. The Government has a complex set of solutions, not just the old solution of, “If we have to move freight, let’s build more roads!” Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! It is inappropriate for members to interject and badger the minister to put her off her answer. The member for Carine is perfectly capable of interjecting, and a certain level of tolerance is given. The level of interjection that other members think they have a right to is intolerable.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No; I do not accept it, and if the member will keep quiet for a moment, I will explain why I do not accept it. I will outline the first principle. The member participated in the freight review and I urge her to read the documents that came out of it. The Government does not accept that the Fremantle inner harbour will continue to grow until 2017. It does not accept that its ultimate limit on growth will be the harbour capacity. It accepts that the matter of ingress and egress has to be a limit in itself. For that reason it has commenced the planning. Mr C.J. Barnett: What is the limit? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I know that the Leader of the Opposition has the concentration span of a housefly and if a question cannot be answered in 25 words or less, he does not want to know. This is a complex matter. The inner harbour will not develop to the ultimate harbour capacity alone. Its future growth will be governed by its capacity to get vehicles in and out. For that reason, planning for the outer harbour has commenced. The Government wants to get the approvals under way so the facilities can be on-stream within the next 10 to 12 years. The process of getting freight from road onto rail has commenced. It has never been the total solution; we have to get much smarter about the logistics. Approximately 40 per cent of the trucks entering Fremantle carry in containers but leave empty. We can do better than that. A logistical system is being devised to develop a truck booking system and a better spread of hours to ensure better efficiency. Mr C.J. Barnett: Stop the waffle! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not waffle; it is a well-thought-through solution to the problem. The Leader of the Opposition is stuck in the 1960s. All he can think is that if there is a freight problem we should mow down suburbs and build more roads. The Government is not going to do that. Another part of the strategy is to build inland container terminals. That is very important. Many of the trucks going in and out of Fremantle carry empty containers. Containers can be located much more profitably well outside Fremantle. The Government has a complex set of solutions, not just the old solution of, “If we have to move freight, let’s build more roads!” Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! It is inappropriate for members to interject and badger the minister to put her off her answer. The member for Carine is perfectly capable of interjecting, and a certain level of tolerance is given. The level of interjection that other members think they have a right to is intolerable.
Mr C.J. Barnett: What is the limit? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I know that the Leader of the Opposition has the concentration span of a housefly and if a question cannot be answered in 25 words or less, he does not want to know. This is a complex matter. The inner harbour will not develop to the ultimate harbour capacity alone. Its future growth will be governed by its capacity to get vehicles in and out. For that reason, planning for the outer harbour has commenced. The Government wants to get the approvals under way so the facilities can be on-stream within the next 10 to 12 years. The process of getting freight from road onto rail has commenced. It has never been the total solution; we have to get much smarter about the logistics. Approximately 40 per cent of the trucks entering Fremantle carry in containers but leave empty. We can do better than that. A logistical system is being devised to develop a truck booking system and a better spread of hours to ensure better efficiency. Mr C.J. Barnett: Stop the waffle! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not waffle; it is a well-thought-through solution to the problem. The Leader of the Opposition is stuck in the 1960s. All he can think is that if there is a freight problem we should mow down suburbs and build more roads. The Government is not going to do that. Another part of the strategy is to build inland container terminals. That is very important. Many of the trucks going in and out of Fremantle carry empty containers. Containers can be located much more profitably well outside Fremantle. The Government has a complex set of solutions, not just the old solution of, “If we have to move freight, let’s build more roads!” Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! It is inappropriate for members to interject and badger the minister to put her off her answer. The member for Carine is perfectly capable of interjecting, and a certain level of tolerance is given. The level of interjection that other members think they have a right to is intolerable.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I know that the Leader of the Opposition has the concentration span of a housefly and if a question cannot be answered in 25 words or less, he does not want to know. This is a complex matter. The inner harbour will not develop to the ultimate harbour capacity alone. Its future growth will be governed by its capacity to get vehicles in and out. For that reason, planning for the outer harbour has commenced. The Government wants to get the approvals under way so the facilities can be on-stream within the next 10 to 12 years. The process of getting freight from road onto rail has commenced. It has never been the total solution; we have to get much smarter about the logistics. Approximately 40 per cent of the trucks entering Fremantle carry in containers but leave empty. We can do better than that. A logistical system is being devised to develop a truck booking system and a better spread of hours to ensure better efficiency. Mr C.J. Barnett: Stop the waffle! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not waffle; it is a well-thought-through solution to the problem. The Leader of the Opposition is stuck in the 1960s. All he can think is that if there is a freight problem we should mow down suburbs and build more roads. The Government is not going to do that. Another part of the strategy is to build inland container terminals. That is very important. Many of the trucks going in and out of Fremantle carry empty containers. Containers can be located much more profitably well outside Fremantle. The Government has a complex set of solutions, not just the old solution of, “If we have to move freight, let’s build more roads!” Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! It is inappropriate for members to interject and badger the minister to put her off her answer. The member for Carine is perfectly capable of interjecting, and a certain level of tolerance is given. The level of interjection that other members think they have a right to is intolerable.
Mr C.J. Barnett: Stop the waffle! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not waffle; it is a well-thought-through solution to the problem. The Leader of the Opposition is stuck in the 1960s. All he can think is that if there is a freight problem we should mow down suburbs and build more roads. The Government is not going to do that. Another part of the strategy is to build inland container terminals. That is very important. Many of the trucks going in and out of Fremantle carry empty containers. Containers can be located much more profitably well outside Fremantle. The Government has a complex set of solutions, not just the old solution of, “If we have to move freight, let’s build more roads!” Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! It is inappropriate for members to interject and badger the minister to put her off her answer. The member for Carine is perfectly capable of interjecting, and a certain level of tolerance is given. The level of interjection that other members think they have a right to is intolerable.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not waffle; it is a well-thought-through solution to the problem. The Leader of the Opposition is stuck in the 1960s. All he can think is that if there is a freight problem we should mow down suburbs and build more roads. The Government is not going to do that. Another part of the strategy is to build inland container terminals. That is very important. Many of the trucks going in and out of Fremantle carry empty containers. Containers can be located much more profitably well outside Fremantle. The Government has a complex set of solutions, not just the old solution of, “If we have to move freight, let’s build more roads!” Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! It is inappropriate for members to interject and badger the minister to put her off her answer. The member for Carine is perfectly capable of interjecting, and a certain level of tolerance is given. The level of interjection that other members think they have a right to is intolerable.
Another part of the strategy is to build inland container terminals. That is very important. Many of the trucks going in and out of Fremantle carry empty containers. Containers can be located much more profitably well outside Fremantle. The Government has a complex set of solutions, not just the old solution of, “If we have to move freight, let’s build more roads!” Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! It is inappropriate for members to interject and badger the minister to put her off her answer. The member for Carine is perfectly capable of interjecting, and a certain level of tolerance is given. The level of interjection that other members think they have a right to is intolerable.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! It is inappropriate for members to interject and badger the minister to put her off her answer. The member for Carine is perfectly capable of interjecting, and a certain level of tolerance is given. The level of interjection that other members think they have a right to is intolerable.
The SPEAKER: Order, members! It is inappropriate for members to interject and badger the minister to put her off her answer. The member for Carine is perfectly capable of interjecting, and a certain level of tolerance is given. The level of interjection that other members think they have a right to is intolerable.
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