❓ Mr. Quigley asks the Minister for Police to release recorded images of Mr. Spratt at the Perth police lockup. The Minister avoids a direct answer, criticizes Mr. Quigley, and discusses past funding issues for watch-house upgrades.
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TASER USE — KEVIN SPRATT INCIDENT
I have a supplementary question. Will the minister undertake to release to Mr Spratt all recorded images that police are holding of Mr Spratt’s attendance at the Perth police lockup? Mr R.F. JOHNSON
I have a supplementary question. Will the minister undertake to release to Mr Spratt all recorded images that police are holding of Mr Spratt’s attendance at the Perth police lockup? Mr R.F. JOHNSON
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I find incredible some of these outrageous comments that the member for Mindarie keeps making in public. When he stoops to personal abuse it means he has lost the argument. That is all he is doing—he is abusing me personally. Let me answer that question. As I have answered already, the police will only retain CCTV footage where there is a recording system in place. There are areas in the Perth lockup that are under surveillance but are not recorded. Mr E.S. Ripper : Does the minister think that is wrong? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That is an interesting question, Leader of the Opposition. I was going to come to the Leader of the Opposition. As I understand it, in 2004 the police commissioner came to him — Mr E.S. Ripper : Answer the question! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will answer it, but I will answer it in my way! I know in 2004, when the commissioner came to the now Leader of the Opposition and took him around the Perth watch-house and showed him what a disgraceful area it was and asked for funding to ensure there was an upgrade—six years ago, when the former government was abundant with money—he refused to do it. Mr E.S. Ripper : I allocated the money. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Towards your dying days! If he had allocated some earlier, then they would have that CCTV footage. The SPEAKER : I think it would be useful for some members in this place to hear some of the answer from the Minister for Police. I notice that he has asked the Leader of the Opposition a question and should expect some response from him. I might be interested in hearing that as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not think I will get a response from the Leader of the Opposition. He should be ashamed of himself. Mr E.S. Ripper : The very next budget I allocated the money because I was disgusted with the state of the watch-house. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So, what did the former government do? Mr J.R. Quigley : Will you release the recorded images to Mr Spratt or not? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time today. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not have images to release. That is a simple answer to the question. Let me elaborate on that slightly because I think it is important. Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the images to Mr Spratt or not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : If the member wants an answer, he should sit there and listen. Stop blabbing off and trying to cause some mayhem in society; which is what he is doing. He is worse than an ambulance chaser, in my view! Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: I find incredible some of these outrageous comments that the member for Mindarie keeps making in public. When he stoops to personal abuse it means he has lost the argument. That is all he is doing—he is abusing me personally. Let me answer that question. As I have answered already, the police will only retain CCTV footage where there is a recording system in place. There are areas in the Perth lockup that are under surveillance but are not recorded. Mr E.S. Ripper : Does the minister think that is wrong? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That is an interesting question, Leader of the Opposition. I was going to come to the Leader of the Opposition. As I understand it, in 2004 the police commissioner came to him — Mr E.S. Ripper : Answer the question! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will answer it, but I will answer it in my way! I know in 2004, when the commissioner came to the now Leader of the Opposition and took him around the Perth watch-house and showed him what a disgraceful area it was and asked for funding to ensure there was an upgrade—six years ago, when the former government was abundant with money—he refused to do it. Mr E.S. Ripper : I allocated the money. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Towards your dying days! If he had allocated some earlier, then they would have that CCTV footage. The SPEAKER : I think it would be useful for some members in this place to hear some of the answer from the Minister for Police. I notice that he has asked the Leader of the Opposition a question and should expect some response from him. I might be interested in hearing that as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not think I will get a response from the Leader of the Opposition. He should be ashamed of himself. Mr E.S. Ripper : The very next budget I allocated the money because I was disgusted with the state of the watch-house. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So, what did the former government do? Mr J.R. Quigley : Will you release the recorded images to Mr Spratt or not? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time today. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not have images to release. That is a simple answer to the question. Let me elaborate on that slightly because I think it is important. Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the images to Mr Spratt or not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : If the member wants an answer, he should sit there and listen. Stop blabbing off and trying to cause some mayhem in society; which is what he is doing. He is worse than an ambulance chaser, in my view! Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
I find incredible some of these outrageous comments that the member for Mindarie keeps making in public. When he stoops to personal abuse it means he has lost the argument. That is all he is doing—he is abusing me personally. Let me answer that question. As I have answered already, the police will only retain CCTV footage where there is a recording system in place. There are areas in the Perth lockup that are under surveillance but are not recorded. Mr E.S. Ripper : Does the minister think that is wrong? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That is an interesting question, Leader of the Opposition. I was going to come to the Leader of the Opposition. As I understand it, in 2004 the police commissioner came to him — Mr E.S. Ripper : Answer the question! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will answer it, but I will answer it in my way! I know in 2004, when the commissioner came to the now Leader of the Opposition and took him around the Perth watch-house and showed him what a disgraceful area it was and asked for funding to ensure there was an upgrade—six years ago, when the former government was abundant with money—he refused to do it. Mr E.S. Ripper : I allocated the money. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Towards your dying days! If he had allocated some earlier, then they would have that CCTV footage. The SPEAKER : I think it would be useful for some members in this place to hear some of the answer from the Minister for Police. I notice that he has asked the Leader of the Opposition a question and should expect some response from him. I might be interested in hearing that as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not think I will get a response from the Leader of the Opposition. He should be ashamed of himself. Mr E.S. Ripper : The very next budget I allocated the money because I was disgusted with the state of the watch-house. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So, what did the former government do? Mr J.R. Quigley : Will you release the recorded images to Mr Spratt or not? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time today. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not have images to release. That is a simple answer to the question. Let me elaborate on that slightly because I think it is important. Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the images to Mr Spratt or not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : If the member wants an answer, he should sit there and listen. Stop blabbing off and trying to cause some mayhem in society; which is what he is doing. He is worse than an ambulance chaser, in my view! Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr E.S. Ripper : Does the minister think that is wrong? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That is an interesting question, Leader of the Opposition. I was going to come to the Leader of the Opposition. As I understand it, in 2004 the police commissioner came to him — Mr E.S. Ripper : Answer the question! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will answer it, but I will answer it in my way! I know in 2004, when the commissioner came to the now Leader of the Opposition and took him around the Perth watch-house and showed him what a disgraceful area it was and asked for funding to ensure there was an upgrade—six years ago, when the former government was abundant with money—he refused to do it. Mr E.S. Ripper : I allocated the money. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Towards your dying days! If he had allocated some earlier, then they would have that CCTV footage. The SPEAKER : I think it would be useful for some members in this place to hear some of the answer from the Minister for Police. I notice that he has asked the Leader of the Opposition a question and should expect some response from him. I might be interested in hearing that as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not think I will get a response from the Leader of the Opposition. He should be ashamed of himself. Mr E.S. Ripper : The very next budget I allocated the money because I was disgusted with the state of the watch-house. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So, what did the former government do? Mr J.R. Quigley : Will you release the recorded images to Mr Spratt or not? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time today. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not have images to release. That is a simple answer to the question. Let me elaborate on that slightly because I think it is important. Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the images to Mr Spratt or not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : If the member wants an answer, he should sit there and listen. Stop blabbing off and trying to cause some mayhem in society; which is what he is doing. He is worse than an ambulance chaser, in my view! Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That is an interesting question, Leader of the Opposition. I was going to come to the Leader of the Opposition. As I understand it, in 2004 the police commissioner came to him — Mr E.S. Ripper : Answer the question! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will answer it, but I will answer it in my way! I know in 2004, when the commissioner came to the now Leader of the Opposition and took him around the Perth watch-house and showed him what a disgraceful area it was and asked for funding to ensure there was an upgrade—six years ago, when the former government was abundant with money—he refused to do it. Mr E.S. Ripper : I allocated the money. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Towards your dying days! If he had allocated some earlier, then they would have that CCTV footage. The SPEAKER : I think it would be useful for some members in this place to hear some of the answer from the Minister for Police. I notice that he has asked the Leader of the Opposition a question and should expect some response from him. I might be interested in hearing that as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not think I will get a response from the Leader of the Opposition. He should be ashamed of himself. Mr E.S. Ripper : The very next budget I allocated the money because I was disgusted with the state of the watch-house. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So, what did the former government do? Mr J.R. Quigley : Will you release the recorded images to Mr Spratt or not? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time today. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not have images to release. That is a simple answer to the question. Let me elaborate on that slightly because I think it is important. Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the images to Mr Spratt or not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : If the member wants an answer, he should sit there and listen. Stop blabbing off and trying to cause some mayhem in society; which is what he is doing. He is worse than an ambulance chaser, in my view! Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr E.S. Ripper : Answer the question! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will answer it, but I will answer it in my way! I know in 2004, when the commissioner came to the now Leader of the Opposition and took him around the Perth watch-house and showed him what a disgraceful area it was and asked for funding to ensure there was an upgrade—six years ago, when the former government was abundant with money—he refused to do it. Mr E.S. Ripper : I allocated the money. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Towards your dying days! If he had allocated some earlier, then they would have that CCTV footage. The SPEAKER : I think it would be useful for some members in this place to hear some of the answer from the Minister for Police. I notice that he has asked the Leader of the Opposition a question and should expect some response from him. I might be interested in hearing that as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not think I will get a response from the Leader of the Opposition. He should be ashamed of himself. Mr E.S. Ripper : The very next budget I allocated the money because I was disgusted with the state of the watch-house. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So, what did the former government do? Mr J.R. Quigley : Will you release the recorded images to Mr Spratt or not? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time today. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not have images to release. That is a simple answer to the question. Let me elaborate on that slightly because I think it is important. Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the images to Mr Spratt or not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : If the member wants an answer, he should sit there and listen. Stop blabbing off and trying to cause some mayhem in society; which is what he is doing. He is worse than an ambulance chaser, in my view! Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will answer it, but I will answer it in my way! I know in 2004, when the commissioner came to the now Leader of the Opposition and took him around the Perth watch-house and showed him what a disgraceful area it was and asked for funding to ensure there was an upgrade—six years ago, when the former government was abundant with money—he refused to do it. Mr E.S. Ripper : I allocated the money. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Towards your dying days! If he had allocated some earlier, then they would have that CCTV footage. The SPEAKER : I think it would be useful for some members in this place to hear some of the answer from the Minister for Police. I notice that he has asked the Leader of the Opposition a question and should expect some response from him. I might be interested in hearing that as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not think I will get a response from the Leader of the Opposition. He should be ashamed of himself. Mr E.S. Ripper : The very next budget I allocated the money because I was disgusted with the state of the watch-house. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So, what did the former government do? Mr J.R. Quigley : Will you release the recorded images to Mr Spratt or not? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time today. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not have images to release. That is a simple answer to the question. Let me elaborate on that slightly because I think it is important. Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the images to Mr Spratt or not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : If the member wants an answer, he should sit there and listen. Stop blabbing off and trying to cause some mayhem in society; which is what he is doing. He is worse than an ambulance chaser, in my view! Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr E.S. Ripper : I allocated the money. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Towards your dying days! If he had allocated some earlier, then they would have that CCTV footage. The SPEAKER : I think it would be useful for some members in this place to hear some of the answer from the Minister for Police. I notice that he has asked the Leader of the Opposition a question and should expect some response from him. I might be interested in hearing that as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not think I will get a response from the Leader of the Opposition. He should be ashamed of himself. Mr E.S. Ripper : The very next budget I allocated the money because I was disgusted with the state of the watch-house. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So, what did the former government do? Mr J.R. Quigley : Will you release the recorded images to Mr Spratt or not? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time today. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not have images to release. That is a simple answer to the question. Let me elaborate on that slightly because I think it is important. Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the images to Mr Spratt or not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : If the member wants an answer, he should sit there and listen. Stop blabbing off and trying to cause some mayhem in society; which is what he is doing. He is worse than an ambulance chaser, in my view! Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Towards your dying days! If he had allocated some earlier, then they would have that CCTV footage. The SPEAKER : I think it would be useful for some members in this place to hear some of the answer from the Minister for Police. I notice that he has asked the Leader of the Opposition a question and should expect some response from him. I might be interested in hearing that as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not think I will get a response from the Leader of the Opposition. He should be ashamed of himself. Mr E.S. Ripper : The very next budget I allocated the money because I was disgusted with the state of the watch-house. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So, what did the former government do? Mr J.R. Quigley : Will you release the recorded images to Mr Spratt or not? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time today. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not have images to release. That is a simple answer to the question. Let me elaborate on that slightly because I think it is important. Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the images to Mr Spratt or not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : If the member wants an answer, he should sit there and listen. Stop blabbing off and trying to cause some mayhem in society; which is what he is doing. He is worse than an ambulance chaser, in my view! Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
The SPEAKER : I think it would be useful for some members in this place to hear some of the answer from the Minister for Police. I notice that he has asked the Leader of the Opposition a question and should expect some response from him. I might be interested in hearing that as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not think I will get a response from the Leader of the Opposition. He should be ashamed of himself. Mr E.S. Ripper : The very next budget I allocated the money because I was disgusted with the state of the watch-house. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So, what did the former government do? Mr J.R. Quigley : Will you release the recorded images to Mr Spratt or not? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time today. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not have images to release. That is a simple answer to the question. Let me elaborate on that slightly because I think it is important. Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the images to Mr Spratt or not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : If the member wants an answer, he should sit there and listen. Stop blabbing off and trying to cause some mayhem in society; which is what he is doing. He is worse than an ambulance chaser, in my view! Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not think I will get a response from the Leader of the Opposition. He should be ashamed of himself. Mr E.S. Ripper : The very next budget I allocated the money because I was disgusted with the state of the watch-house. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So, what did the former government do? Mr J.R. Quigley : Will you release the recorded images to Mr Spratt or not? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time today. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not have images to release. That is a simple answer to the question. Let me elaborate on that slightly because I think it is important. Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the images to Mr Spratt or not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : If the member wants an answer, he should sit there and listen. Stop blabbing off and trying to cause some mayhem in society; which is what he is doing. He is worse than an ambulance chaser, in my view! Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr E.S. Ripper : The very next budget I allocated the money because I was disgusted with the state of the watch-house. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So, what did the former government do? Mr J.R. Quigley : Will you release the recorded images to Mr Spratt or not? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time today. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not have images to release. That is a simple answer to the question. Let me elaborate on that slightly because I think it is important. Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the images to Mr Spratt or not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : If the member wants an answer, he should sit there and listen. Stop blabbing off and trying to cause some mayhem in society; which is what he is doing. He is worse than an ambulance chaser, in my view! Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So, what did the former government do? Mr J.R. Quigley : Will you release the recorded images to Mr Spratt or not? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time today. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not have images to release. That is a simple answer to the question. Let me elaborate on that slightly because I think it is important. Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the images to Mr Spratt or not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : If the member wants an answer, he should sit there and listen. Stop blabbing off and trying to cause some mayhem in society; which is what he is doing. He is worse than an ambulance chaser, in my view! Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr J.R. Quigley : Will you release the recorded images to Mr Spratt or not? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time today. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not have images to release. That is a simple answer to the question. Let me elaborate on that slightly because I think it is important. Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the images to Mr Spratt or not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : If the member wants an answer, he should sit there and listen. Stop blabbing off and trying to cause some mayhem in society; which is what he is doing. He is worse than an ambulance chaser, in my view! Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time today. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not have images to release. That is a simple answer to the question. Let me elaborate on that slightly because I think it is important. Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the images to Mr Spratt or not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : If the member wants an answer, he should sit there and listen. Stop blabbing off and trying to cause some mayhem in society; which is what he is doing. He is worse than an ambulance chaser, in my view! Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not have images to release. That is a simple answer to the question. Let me elaborate on that slightly because I think it is important. Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the images to Mr Spratt or not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : If the member wants an answer, he should sit there and listen. Stop blabbing off and trying to cause some mayhem in society; which is what he is doing. He is worse than an ambulance chaser, in my view! Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the images to Mr Spratt or not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : If the member wants an answer, he should sit there and listen. Stop blabbing off and trying to cause some mayhem in society; which is what he is doing. He is worse than an ambulance chaser, in my view! Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : If the member wants an answer, he should sit there and listen. Stop blabbing off and trying to cause some mayhem in society; which is what he is doing. He is worse than an ambulance chaser, in my view! Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: I find incredible some of these outrageous comments that the member for Mindarie keeps making in public. When he stoops to personal abuse it means he has lost the argument. That is all he is doing—he is abusing me personally. Let me answer that question. As I have answered already, the police will only retain CCTV footage where there is a recording system in place. There are areas in the Perth lockup that are under surveillance but are not recorded. Mr E.S. Ripper : Does the minister think that is wrong? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That is an interesting question, Leader of the Opposition. I was going to come to the Leader of the Opposition. As I understand it, in 2004 the police commissioner came to him — Mr E.S. Ripper : Answer the question! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will answer it, but I will answer it in my way! I know in 2004, when the commissioner came to the now Leader of the Opposition and took him around the Perth watch-house and showed him what a disgraceful area it was and asked for funding to ensure there was an upgrade—six years ago, when the former government was abundant with money—he refused to do it. Mr E.S. Ripper : I allocated the money. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Towards your dying days! If he had allocated some earlier, then they would have that CCTV footage. The SPEAKER : I think it would be useful for some members in this place to hear some of the answer from the Minister for Police. I notice that he has asked the Leader of the Opposition a question and should expect some response from him. I might be interested in hearing that as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not think I will get a response from the Leader of the Opposition. He should be ashamed of himself. Mr E.S. Ripper : The very next budget I allocated the money because I was disgusted with the state of the watch-house. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So, what did the former government do? Mr J.R. Quigley : Will you release the recorded images to Mr Spratt or not? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time today. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not have images to release. That is a simple answer to the question. Let me elaborate on that slightly because I think it is important. Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the images to Mr Spratt or not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : If the member wants an answer, he should sit there and listen. Stop blabbing off and trying to cause some mayhem in society; which is what he is doing. He is worse than an ambulance chaser, in my view! Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
I find incredible some of these outrageous comments that the member for Mindarie keeps making in public. When he stoops to personal abuse it means he has lost the argument. That is all he is doing—he is abusing me personally. Let me answer that question. As I have answered already, the police will only retain CCTV footage where there is a recording system in place. There are areas in the Perth lockup that are under surveillance but are not recorded. Mr E.S. Ripper : Does the minister think that is wrong? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That is an interesting question, Leader of the Opposition. I was going to come to the Leader of the Opposition. As I understand it, in 2004 the police commissioner came to him — Mr E.S. Ripper : Answer the question! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will answer it, but I will answer it in my way! I know in 2004, when the commissioner came to the now Leader of the Opposition and took him around the Perth watch-house and showed him what a disgraceful area it was and asked for funding to ensure there was an upgrade—six years ago, when the former government was abundant with money—he refused to do it. Mr E.S. Ripper : I allocated the money. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Towards your dying days! If he had allocated some earlier, then they would have that CCTV footage. The SPEAKER : I think it would be useful for some members in this place to hear some of the answer from the Minister for Police. I notice that he has asked the Leader of the Opposition a question and should expect some response from him. I might be interested in hearing that as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not think I will get a response from the Leader of the Opposition. He should be ashamed of himself. Mr E.S. Ripper : The very next budget I allocated the money because I was disgusted with the state of the watch-house. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So, what did the former government do? Mr J.R. Quigley : Will you release the recorded images to Mr Spratt or not? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time today. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not have images to release. That is a simple answer to the question. Let me elaborate on that slightly because I think it is important. Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the images to Mr Spratt or not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : If the member wants an answer, he should sit there and listen. Stop blabbing off and trying to cause some mayhem in society; which is what he is doing. He is worse than an ambulance chaser, in my view! Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr E.S. Ripper : Does the minister think that is wrong? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That is an interesting question, Leader of the Opposition. I was going to come to the Leader of the Opposition. As I understand it, in 2004 the police commissioner came to him — Mr E.S. Ripper : Answer the question! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will answer it, but I will answer it in my way! I know in 2004, when the commissioner came to the now Leader of the Opposition and took him around the Perth watch-house and showed him what a disgraceful area it was and asked for funding to ensure there was an upgrade—six years ago, when the former government was abundant with money—he refused to do it. Mr E.S. Ripper : I allocated the money. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Towards your dying days! If he had allocated some earlier, then they would have that CCTV footage. The SPEAKER : I think it would be useful for some members in this place to hear some of the answer from the Minister for Police. I notice that he has asked the Leader of the Opposition a question and should expect some response from him. I might be interested in hearing that as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not think I will get a response from the Leader of the Opposition. He should be ashamed of himself. Mr E.S. Ripper : The very next budget I allocated the money because I was disgusted with the state of the watch-house. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So, what did the former government do? Mr J.R. Quigley : Will you release the recorded images to Mr Spratt or not? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time today. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not have images to release. That is a simple answer to the question. Let me elaborate on that slightly because I think it is important. Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the images to Mr Spratt or not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : If the member wants an answer, he should sit there and listen. Stop blabbing off and trying to cause some mayhem in society; which is what he is doing. He is worse than an ambulance chaser, in my view! Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That is an interesting question, Leader of the Opposition. I was going to come to the Leader of the Opposition. As I understand it, in 2004 the police commissioner came to him — Mr E.S. Ripper : Answer the question! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will answer it, but I will answer it in my way! I know in 2004, when the commissioner came to the now Leader of the Opposition and took him around the Perth watch-house and showed him what a disgraceful area it was and asked for funding to ensure there was an upgrade—six years ago, when the former government was abundant with money—he refused to do it. Mr E.S. Ripper : I allocated the money. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Towards your dying days! If he had allocated some earlier, then they would have that CCTV footage. The SPEAKER : I think it would be useful for some members in this place to hear some of the answer from the Minister for Police. I notice that he has asked the Leader of the Opposition a question and should expect some response from him. I might be interested in hearing that as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not think I will get a response from the Leader of the Opposition. He should be ashamed of himself. Mr E.S. Ripper : The very next budget I allocated the money because I was disgusted with the state of the watch-house. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So, what did the former government do? Mr J.R. Quigley : Will you release the recorded images to Mr Spratt or not? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time today. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not have images to release. That is a simple answer to the question. Let me elaborate on that slightly because I think it is important. Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the images to Mr Spratt or not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : If the member wants an answer, he should sit there and listen. Stop blabbing off and trying to cause some mayhem in society; which is what he is doing. He is worse than an ambulance chaser, in my view! Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr E.S. Ripper : Answer the question! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will answer it, but I will answer it in my way! I know in 2004, when the commissioner came to the now Leader of the Opposition and took him around the Perth watch-house and showed him what a disgraceful area it was and asked for funding to ensure there was an upgrade—six years ago, when the former government was abundant with money—he refused to do it. Mr E.S. Ripper : I allocated the money. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Towards your dying days! If he had allocated some earlier, then they would have that CCTV footage. The SPEAKER : I think it would be useful for some members in this place to hear some of the answer from the Minister for Police. I notice that he has asked the Leader of the Opposition a question and should expect some response from him. I might be interested in hearing that as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not think I will get a response from the Leader of the Opposition. He should be ashamed of himself. Mr E.S. Ripper : The very next budget I allocated the money because I was disgusted with the state of the watch-house. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So, what did the former government do? Mr J.R. Quigley : Will you release the recorded images to Mr Spratt or not? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time today. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not have images to release. That is a simple answer to the question. Let me elaborate on that slightly because I think it is important. Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the images to Mr Spratt or not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : If the member wants an answer, he should sit there and listen. Stop blabbing off and trying to cause some mayhem in society; which is what he is doing. He is worse than an ambulance chaser, in my view! Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will answer it, but I will answer it in my way! I know in 2004, when the commissioner came to the now Leader of the Opposition and took him around the Perth watch-house and showed him what a disgraceful area it was and asked for funding to ensure there was an upgrade—six years ago, when the former government was abundant with money—he refused to do it. Mr E.S. Ripper : I allocated the money. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Towards your dying days! If he had allocated some earlier, then they would have that CCTV footage. The SPEAKER : I think it would be useful for some members in this place to hear some of the answer from the Minister for Police. I notice that he has asked the Leader of the Opposition a question and should expect some response from him. I might be interested in hearing that as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not think I will get a response from the Leader of the Opposition. He should be ashamed of himself. Mr E.S. Ripper : The very next budget I allocated the money because I was disgusted with the state of the watch-house. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So, what did the former government do? Mr J.R. Quigley : Will you release the recorded images to Mr Spratt or not? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time today. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not have images to release. That is a simple answer to the question. Let me elaborate on that slightly because I think it is important. Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the images to Mr Spratt or not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : If the member wants an answer, he should sit there and listen. Stop blabbing off and trying to cause some mayhem in society; which is what he is doing. He is worse than an ambulance chaser, in my view! Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr E.S. Ripper : I allocated the money. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Towards your dying days! If he had allocated some earlier, then they would have that CCTV footage. The SPEAKER : I think it would be useful for some members in this place to hear some of the answer from the Minister for Police. I notice that he has asked the Leader of the Opposition a question and should expect some response from him. I might be interested in hearing that as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not think I will get a response from the Leader of the Opposition. He should be ashamed of himself. Mr E.S. Ripper : The very next budget I allocated the money because I was disgusted with the state of the watch-house. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So, what did the former government do? Mr J.R. Quigley : Will you release the recorded images to Mr Spratt or not? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time today. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not have images to release. That is a simple answer to the question. Let me elaborate on that slightly because I think it is important. Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the images to Mr Spratt or not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : If the member wants an answer, he should sit there and listen. Stop blabbing off and trying to cause some mayhem in society; which is what he is doing. He is worse than an ambulance chaser, in my view! Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Towards your dying days! If he had allocated some earlier, then they would have that CCTV footage. The SPEAKER : I think it would be useful for some members in this place to hear some of the answer from the Minister for Police. I notice that he has asked the Leader of the Opposition a question and should expect some response from him. I might be interested in hearing that as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not think I will get a response from the Leader of the Opposition. He should be ashamed of himself. Mr E.S. Ripper : The very next budget I allocated the money because I was disgusted with the state of the watch-house. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So, what did the former government do? Mr J.R. Quigley : Will you release the recorded images to Mr Spratt or not? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time today. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not have images to release. That is a simple answer to the question. Let me elaborate on that slightly because I think it is important. Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the images to Mr Spratt or not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : If the member wants an answer, he should sit there and listen. Stop blabbing off and trying to cause some mayhem in society; which is what he is doing. He is worse than an ambulance chaser, in my view! Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
The SPEAKER : I think it would be useful for some members in this place to hear some of the answer from the Minister for Police. I notice that he has asked the Leader of the Opposition a question and should expect some response from him. I might be interested in hearing that as well. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not think I will get a response from the Leader of the Opposition. He should be ashamed of himself. Mr E.S. Ripper : The very next budget I allocated the money because I was disgusted with the state of the watch-house. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So, what did the former government do? Mr J.R. Quigley : Will you release the recorded images to Mr Spratt or not? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time today. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not have images to release. That is a simple answer to the question. Let me elaborate on that slightly because I think it is important. Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the images to Mr Spratt or not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : If the member wants an answer, he should sit there and listen. Stop blabbing off and trying to cause some mayhem in society; which is what he is doing. He is worse than an ambulance chaser, in my view! Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not think I will get a response from the Leader of the Opposition. He should be ashamed of himself. Mr E.S. Ripper : The very next budget I allocated the money because I was disgusted with the state of the watch-house. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So, what did the former government do? Mr J.R. Quigley : Will you release the recorded images to Mr Spratt or not? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time today. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not have images to release. That is a simple answer to the question. Let me elaborate on that slightly because I think it is important. Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the images to Mr Spratt or not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : If the member wants an answer, he should sit there and listen. Stop blabbing off and trying to cause some mayhem in society; which is what he is doing. He is worse than an ambulance chaser, in my view! Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr E.S. Ripper : The very next budget I allocated the money because I was disgusted with the state of the watch-house. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So, what did the former government do? Mr J.R. Quigley : Will you release the recorded images to Mr Spratt or not? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time today. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not have images to release. That is a simple answer to the question. Let me elaborate on that slightly because I think it is important. Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the images to Mr Spratt or not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : If the member wants an answer, he should sit there and listen. Stop blabbing off and trying to cause some mayhem in society; which is what he is doing. He is worse than an ambulance chaser, in my view! Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So, what did the former government do? Mr J.R. Quigley : Will you release the recorded images to Mr Spratt or not? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time today. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not have images to release. That is a simple answer to the question. Let me elaborate on that slightly because I think it is important. Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the images to Mr Spratt or not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : If the member wants an answer, he should sit there and listen. Stop blabbing off and trying to cause some mayhem in society; which is what he is doing. He is worse than an ambulance chaser, in my view! Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr J.R. Quigley : Will you release the recorded images to Mr Spratt or not? The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time today. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not have images to release. That is a simple answer to the question. Let me elaborate on that slightly because I think it is important. Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the images to Mr Spratt or not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : If the member wants an answer, he should sit there and listen. Stop blabbing off and trying to cause some mayhem in society; which is what he is doing. He is worse than an ambulance chaser, in my view! Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
The SPEAKER : Member for Mindarie, I formally call you for the first time today. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not have images to release. That is a simple answer to the question. Let me elaborate on that slightly because I think it is important. Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the images to Mr Spratt or not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : If the member wants an answer, he should sit there and listen. Stop blabbing off and trying to cause some mayhem in society; which is what he is doing. He is worse than an ambulance chaser, in my view! Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I do not have images to release. That is a simple answer to the question. Let me elaborate on that slightly because I think it is important. Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the images to Mr Spratt or not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : If the member wants an answer, he should sit there and listen. Stop blabbing off and trying to cause some mayhem in society; which is what he is doing. He is worse than an ambulance chaser, in my view! Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the images to Mr Spratt or not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : If the member wants an answer, he should sit there and listen. Stop blabbing off and trying to cause some mayhem in society; which is what he is doing. He is worse than an ambulance chaser, in my view! Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : If the member wants an answer, he should sit there and listen. Stop blabbing off and trying to cause some mayhem in society; which is what he is doing. He is worse than an ambulance chaser, in my view! Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr J.R. Quigley : Will the police release the image or not, minister, or will they keep it secret? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no secret videotape by police; none whatsoever. Let me explain in detail. The only areas in the Perth police watch-house that are recordable by video is the sally port and the reception area. Other areas are monitored, as certainly the real shadow Minister for Police would know. She would know those areas are monitored because she has probably been there. Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Ms M.M. Quirk : I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Exactly; and she would know that. As members would be aware, the vision that was taken on 1 September was retained by police because they carried out the internal investigation. There were no incidents in other areas that were recordable that the police could do anything with. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us what he looked like when he came out of the van! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : While he was in the van he was thrashing about from one side to the other, up and down and all over the place. Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr J.R. Quigley : Show us the video as he came out! That is unbelievable. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There is no video to show what the member for Mindarie is saying. I will say one thing in conclusion. I want to pay respect to Paul Murray, because I think Paul Murray has given the most accurate, fair and accountable report of what actually happened in this particular area. I think his reporting was very, very responsible. I commend him for it. I hope that when he gets some more information, which may or may not come forward, he will carry on doing the good job that he is doing. His report was the most fair, accountable and responsible reporting that I have seen so far.
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