Hon Simon O'Brien questions Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich about the mandatory reporting of medical conditions for drivers, focusing on the number of affected individuals, assessment costs, and driving privileges during assessment delays. Ravlich's response addresses assessment wait times and emphasizes road safety, but does not provide specific figures.

AnsweredQoN 265Legislative Council
Asked
1 April 2008
Portfolio
Planning and Infrastructure

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LICENSING — PRACTICAL ASSESSMENTS
I refer to my earlier questions about the government’s mandatory reporting of medical conditions regime for drivers, which the minister failed to answer, and press on, with confidence undimmed, to now ask — (1) Is it the case that the minister simply does not know how many Western Australians will now be required by law to submit written reports admitting to her bureaucrats that they have one of her designated medical conditions? (2) Who pays for the medical assessments Western Australians may be ordered to undertake? (3) Will a driver who has been ordered to undertake a practical driving assessment be permitted to continue driving while waiting six months to get a booking to have the practical test? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH

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I thank the member for the question. (1)-(3) If the member kept abreast of developments, he would know that the waiting times for sitting practical driving assessments have come down considerably. In most licensing centres, drivers can get one within one day — Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! The Deputy Leader of the Opposition has asked a question. I trust that he wants to hear the answer. I know Hansard may be having some difficulty hearing the answer because of interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I was addressing the third question first, so I hope the honourable member did not get confused. As to how many people will have to submit a written report, if the honourable member had bothered to take the time to look at the regulations, he would know that he could disallow the regulation and tell the coroner — Hon Simon O’Brien : No I can’t because you announced them 15 days ago and you still haven’t tabled them in this place. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The honourable member may not agree with the coroner’s recommendations, he may not think that we should be part of a national framework and he may think it is okay for people to be on the roads with a range of medical conditions. These people, together with their doctors, are in the best position to determine whether their condition may cause a problem and affect their ability to drive safely. I do not have the information about the number of people who might have to write a report because — Hon Simon O’Brien : You haven’t even thought about it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have thought about the seriousness of a recommendation by the coroner. I have thought about a man who died because somebody drove a vehicle whilst having a medical condition that affected that person’s ability to drive safely. As the member asked me what I have thought about, I can tell him that I have thought about the seriousness of the situation. If he thinks that is funny, he might want to think again. He can take the smirk off his face because this matter is very serious. Quite frankly, this issue is about protecting drivers and the interests of other road users. It is about road safety outcomes. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Before I give the call to Hon Peter Collier, I am concerned about the health of members. I am concerned that their capacity to drive is being diminished by the degree of shouting that we have just had to put up with.
(1) Is it the case that the minister simply does not know how many Western Australians will now be required by law to submit written reports admitting to her bureaucrats that they have one of her designated medical conditions? (2) Who pays for the medical assessments Western Australians may be ordered to undertake? (3) Will a driver who has been ordered to undertake a practical driving assessment be permitted to continue driving while waiting six months to get a booking to have the practical test? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: I thank the member for the question. (1)-(3) If the member kept abreast of developments, he would know that the waiting times for sitting practical driving assessments have come down considerably. In most licensing centres, drivers can get one within one day — Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! The Deputy Leader of the Opposition has asked a question. I trust that he wants to hear the answer. I know Hansard may be having some difficulty hearing the answer because of interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I was addressing the third question first, so I hope the honourable member did not get confused. As to how many people will have to submit a written report, if the honourable member had bothered to take the time to look at the regulations, he would know that he could disallow the regulation and tell the coroner — Hon Simon O’Brien : No I can’t because you announced them 15 days ago and you still haven’t tabled them in this place. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The honourable member may not agree with the coroner’s recommendations, he may not think that we should be part of a national framework and he may think it is okay for people to be on the roads with a range of medical conditions. These people, together with their doctors, are in the best position to determine whether their condition may cause a problem and affect their ability to drive safely. I do not have the information about the number of people who might have to write a report because — Hon Simon O’Brien : You haven’t even thought about it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have thought about the seriousness of a recommendation by the coroner. I have thought about a man who died because somebody drove a vehicle whilst having a medical condition that affected that person’s ability to drive safely. As the member asked me what I have thought about, I can tell him that I have thought about the seriousness of the situation. If he thinks that is funny, he might want to think again. He can take the smirk off his face because this matter is very serious. Quite frankly, this issue is about protecting drivers and the interests of other road users. It is about road safety outcomes. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Before I give the call to Hon Peter Collier, I am concerned about the health of members. I am concerned that their capacity to drive is being diminished by the degree of shouting that we have just had to put up with.
(2) Who pays for the medical assessments Western Australians may be ordered to undertake? (3) Will a driver who has been ordered to undertake a practical driving assessment be permitted to continue driving while waiting six months to get a booking to have the practical test? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: I thank the member for the question. (1)-(3) If the member kept abreast of developments, he would know that the waiting times for sitting practical driving assessments have come down considerably. In most licensing centres, drivers can get one within one day — Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! The Deputy Leader of the Opposition has asked a question. I trust that he wants to hear the answer. I know Hansard may be having some difficulty hearing the answer because of interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I was addressing the third question first, so I hope the honourable member did not get confused. As to how many people will have to submit a written report, if the honourable member had bothered to take the time to look at the regulations, he would know that he could disallow the regulation and tell the coroner — Hon Simon O’Brien : No I can’t because you announced them 15 days ago and you still haven’t tabled them in this place. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The honourable member may not agree with the coroner’s recommendations, he may not think that we should be part of a national framework and he may think it is okay for people to be on the roads with a range of medical conditions. These people, together with their doctors, are in the best position to determine whether their condition may cause a problem and affect their ability to drive safely. I do not have the information about the number of people who might have to write a report because — Hon Simon O’Brien : You haven’t even thought about it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have thought about the seriousness of a recommendation by the coroner. I have thought about a man who died because somebody drove a vehicle whilst having a medical condition that affected that person’s ability to drive safely. As the member asked me what I have thought about, I can tell him that I have thought about the seriousness of the situation. If he thinks that is funny, he might want to think again. He can take the smirk off his face because this matter is very serious. Quite frankly, this issue is about protecting drivers and the interests of other road users. It is about road safety outcomes. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Before I give the call to Hon Peter Collier, I am concerned about the health of members. I am concerned that their capacity to drive is being diminished by the degree of shouting that we have just had to put up with.
(3) Will a driver who has been ordered to undertake a practical driving assessment be permitted to continue driving while waiting six months to get a booking to have the practical test? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: I thank the member for the question. (1)-(3) If the member kept abreast of developments, he would know that the waiting times for sitting practical driving assessments have come down considerably. In most licensing centres, drivers can get one within one day — Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! The Deputy Leader of the Opposition has asked a question. I trust that he wants to hear the answer. I know Hansard may be having some difficulty hearing the answer because of interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I was addressing the third question first, so I hope the honourable member did not get confused. As to how many people will have to submit a written report, if the honourable member had bothered to take the time to look at the regulations, he would know that he could disallow the regulation and tell the coroner — Hon Simon O’Brien : No I can’t because you announced them 15 days ago and you still haven’t tabled them in this place. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The honourable member may not agree with the coroner’s recommendations, he may not think that we should be part of a national framework and he may think it is okay for people to be on the roads with a range of medical conditions. These people, together with their doctors, are in the best position to determine whether their condition may cause a problem and affect their ability to drive safely. I do not have the information about the number of people who might have to write a report because — Hon Simon O’Brien : You haven’t even thought about it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have thought about the seriousness of a recommendation by the coroner. I have thought about a man who died because somebody drove a vehicle whilst having a medical condition that affected that person’s ability to drive safely. As the member asked me what I have thought about, I can tell him that I have thought about the seriousness of the situation. If he thinks that is funny, he might want to think again. He can take the smirk off his face because this matter is very serious. Quite frankly, this issue is about protecting drivers and the interests of other road users. It is about road safety outcomes. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Before I give the call to Hon Peter Collier, I am concerned about the health of members. I am concerned that their capacity to drive is being diminished by the degree of shouting that we have just had to put up with.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: I thank the member for the question. (1)-(3) If the member kept abreast of developments, he would know that the waiting times for sitting practical driving assessments have come down considerably. In most licensing centres, drivers can get one within one day — Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! The Deputy Leader of the Opposition has asked a question. I trust that he wants to hear the answer. I know Hansard may be having some difficulty hearing the answer because of interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I was addressing the third question first, so I hope the honourable member did not get confused. As to how many people will have to submit a written report, if the honourable member had bothered to take the time to look at the regulations, he would know that he could disallow the regulation and tell the coroner — Hon Simon O’Brien : No I can’t because you announced them 15 days ago and you still haven’t tabled them in this place. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The honourable member may not agree with the coroner’s recommendations, he may not think that we should be part of a national framework and he may think it is okay for people to be on the roads with a range of medical conditions. These people, together with their doctors, are in the best position to determine whether their condition may cause a problem and affect their ability to drive safely. I do not have the information about the number of people who might have to write a report because — Hon Simon O’Brien : You haven’t even thought about it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have thought about the seriousness of a recommendation by the coroner. I have thought about a man who died because somebody drove a vehicle whilst having a medical condition that affected that person’s ability to drive safely. As the member asked me what I have thought about, I can tell him that I have thought about the seriousness of the situation. If he thinks that is funny, he might want to think again. He can take the smirk off his face because this matter is very serious. Quite frankly, this issue is about protecting drivers and the interests of other road users. It is about road safety outcomes. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Before I give the call to Hon Peter Collier, I am concerned about the health of members. I am concerned that their capacity to drive is being diminished by the degree of shouting that we have just had to put up with.
I thank the member for the question. (1)-(3) If the member kept abreast of developments, he would know that the waiting times for sitting practical driving assessments have come down considerably. In most licensing centres, drivers can get one within one day — Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! The Deputy Leader of the Opposition has asked a question. I trust that he wants to hear the answer. I know Hansard may be having some difficulty hearing the answer because of interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I was addressing the third question first, so I hope the honourable member did not get confused. As to how many people will have to submit a written report, if the honourable member had bothered to take the time to look at the regulations, he would know that he could disallow the regulation and tell the coroner — Hon Simon O’Brien : No I can’t because you announced them 15 days ago and you still haven’t tabled them in this place. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The honourable member may not agree with the coroner’s recommendations, he may not think that we should be part of a national framework and he may think it is okay for people to be on the roads with a range of medical conditions. These people, together with their doctors, are in the best position to determine whether their condition may cause a problem and affect their ability to drive safely. I do not have the information about the number of people who might have to write a report because — Hon Simon O’Brien : You haven’t even thought about it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have thought about the seriousness of a recommendation by the coroner. I have thought about a man who died because somebody drove a vehicle whilst having a medical condition that affected that person’s ability to drive safely. As the member asked me what I have thought about, I can tell him that I have thought about the seriousness of the situation. If he thinks that is funny, he might want to think again. He can take the smirk off his face because this matter is very serious. Quite frankly, this issue is about protecting drivers and the interests of other road users. It is about road safety outcomes. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Before I give the call to Hon Peter Collier, I am concerned about the health of members. I am concerned that their capacity to drive is being diminished by the degree of shouting that we have just had to put up with.
(1)-(3) If the member kept abreast of developments, he would know that the waiting times for sitting practical driving assessments have come down considerably. In most licensing centres, drivers can get one within one day — Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! The Deputy Leader of the Opposition has asked a question. I trust that he wants to hear the answer. I know Hansard may be having some difficulty hearing the answer because of interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I was addressing the third question first, so I hope the honourable member did not get confused. As to how many people will have to submit a written report, if the honourable member had bothered to take the time to look at the regulations, he would know that he could disallow the regulation and tell the coroner — Hon Simon O’Brien : No I can’t because you announced them 15 days ago and you still haven’t tabled them in this place. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The honourable member may not agree with the coroner’s recommendations, he may not think that we should be part of a national framework and he may think it is okay for people to be on the roads with a range of medical conditions. These people, together with their doctors, are in the best position to determine whether their condition may cause a problem and affect their ability to drive safely. I do not have the information about the number of people who might have to write a report because — Hon Simon O’Brien : You haven’t even thought about it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have thought about the seriousness of a recommendation by the coroner. I have thought about a man who died because somebody drove a vehicle whilst having a medical condition that affected that person’s ability to drive safely. As the member asked me what I have thought about, I can tell him that I have thought about the seriousness of the situation. If he thinks that is funny, he might want to think again. He can take the smirk off his face because this matter is very serious. Quite frankly, this issue is about protecting drivers and the interests of other road users. It is about road safety outcomes. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Before I give the call to Hon Peter Collier, I am concerned about the health of members. I am concerned that their capacity to drive is being diminished by the degree of shouting that we have just had to put up with.
Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! The Deputy Leader of the Opposition has asked a question. I trust that he wants to hear the answer. I know Hansard may be having some difficulty hearing the answer because of interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I was addressing the third question first, so I hope the honourable member did not get confused. As to how many people will have to submit a written report, if the honourable member had bothered to take the time to look at the regulations, he would know that he could disallow the regulation and tell the coroner — Hon Simon O’Brien : No I can’t because you announced them 15 days ago and you still haven’t tabled them in this place. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The honourable member may not agree with the coroner’s recommendations, he may not think that we should be part of a national framework and he may think it is okay for people to be on the roads with a range of medical conditions. These people, together with their doctors, are in the best position to determine whether their condition may cause a problem and affect their ability to drive safely. I do not have the information about the number of people who might have to write a report because — Hon Simon O’Brien : You haven’t even thought about it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have thought about the seriousness of a recommendation by the coroner. I have thought about a man who died because somebody drove a vehicle whilst having a medical condition that affected that person’s ability to drive safely. As the member asked me what I have thought about, I can tell him that I have thought about the seriousness of the situation. If he thinks that is funny, he might want to think again. He can take the smirk off his face because this matter is very serious. Quite frankly, this issue is about protecting drivers and the interests of other road users. It is about road safety outcomes. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Before I give the call to Hon Peter Collier, I am concerned about the health of members. I am concerned that their capacity to drive is being diminished by the degree of shouting that we have just had to put up with.
The PRESIDENT : Order! The Deputy Leader of the Opposition has asked a question. I trust that he wants to hear the answer. I know Hansard may be having some difficulty hearing the answer because of interjections. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I was addressing the third question first, so I hope the honourable member did not get confused. As to how many people will have to submit a written report, if the honourable member had bothered to take the time to look at the regulations, he would know that he could disallow the regulation and tell the coroner — Hon Simon O’Brien : No I can’t because you announced them 15 days ago and you still haven’t tabled them in this place. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The honourable member may not agree with the coroner’s recommendations, he may not think that we should be part of a national framework and he may think it is okay for people to be on the roads with a range of medical conditions. These people, together with their doctors, are in the best position to determine whether their condition may cause a problem and affect their ability to drive safely. I do not have the information about the number of people who might have to write a report because — Hon Simon O’Brien : You haven’t even thought about it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have thought about the seriousness of a recommendation by the coroner. I have thought about a man who died because somebody drove a vehicle whilst having a medical condition that affected that person’s ability to drive safely. As the member asked me what I have thought about, I can tell him that I have thought about the seriousness of the situation. If he thinks that is funny, he might want to think again. He can take the smirk off his face because this matter is very serious. Quite frankly, this issue is about protecting drivers and the interests of other road users. It is about road safety outcomes. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Before I give the call to Hon Peter Collier, I am concerned about the health of members. I am concerned that their capacity to drive is being diminished by the degree of shouting that we have just had to put up with.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I was addressing the third question first, so I hope the honourable member did not get confused. As to how many people will have to submit a written report, if the honourable member had bothered to take the time to look at the regulations, he would know that he could disallow the regulation and tell the coroner — Hon Simon O’Brien : No I can’t because you announced them 15 days ago and you still haven’t tabled them in this place. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The honourable member may not agree with the coroner’s recommendations, he may not think that we should be part of a national framework and he may think it is okay for people to be on the roads with a range of medical conditions. These people, together with their doctors, are in the best position to determine whether their condition may cause a problem and affect their ability to drive safely. I do not have the information about the number of people who might have to write a report because — Hon Simon O’Brien : You haven’t even thought about it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have thought about the seriousness of a recommendation by the coroner. I have thought about a man who died because somebody drove a vehicle whilst having a medical condition that affected that person’s ability to drive safely. As the member asked me what I have thought about, I can tell him that I have thought about the seriousness of the situation. If he thinks that is funny, he might want to think again. He can take the smirk off his face because this matter is very serious. Quite frankly, this issue is about protecting drivers and the interests of other road users. It is about road safety outcomes. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Before I give the call to Hon Peter Collier, I am concerned about the health of members. I am concerned that their capacity to drive is being diminished by the degree of shouting that we have just had to put up with.
Hon Simon O’Brien : No I can’t because you announced them 15 days ago and you still haven’t tabled them in this place. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The honourable member may not agree with the coroner’s recommendations, he may not think that we should be part of a national framework and he may think it is okay for people to be on the roads with a range of medical conditions. These people, together with their doctors, are in the best position to determine whether their condition may cause a problem and affect their ability to drive safely. I do not have the information about the number of people who might have to write a report because — Hon Simon O’Brien : You haven’t even thought about it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have thought about the seriousness of a recommendation by the coroner. I have thought about a man who died because somebody drove a vehicle whilst having a medical condition that affected that person’s ability to drive safely. As the member asked me what I have thought about, I can tell him that I have thought about the seriousness of the situation. If he thinks that is funny, he might want to think again. He can take the smirk off his face because this matter is very serious. Quite frankly, this issue is about protecting drivers and the interests of other road users. It is about road safety outcomes. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Before I give the call to Hon Peter Collier, I am concerned about the health of members. I am concerned that their capacity to drive is being diminished by the degree of shouting that we have just had to put up with.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The honourable member may not agree with the coroner’s recommendations, he may not think that we should be part of a national framework and he may think it is okay for people to be on the roads with a range of medical conditions. These people, together with their doctors, are in the best position to determine whether their condition may cause a problem and affect their ability to drive safely. I do not have the information about the number of people who might have to write a report because — Hon Simon O’Brien : You haven’t even thought about it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have thought about the seriousness of a recommendation by the coroner. I have thought about a man who died because somebody drove a vehicle whilst having a medical condition that affected that person’s ability to drive safely. As the member asked me what I have thought about, I can tell him that I have thought about the seriousness of the situation. If he thinks that is funny, he might want to think again. He can take the smirk off his face because this matter is very serious. Quite frankly, this issue is about protecting drivers and the interests of other road users. It is about road safety outcomes. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Before I give the call to Hon Peter Collier, I am concerned about the health of members. I am concerned that their capacity to drive is being diminished by the degree of shouting that we have just had to put up with.
Hon Simon O’Brien : You haven’t even thought about it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have thought about the seriousness of a recommendation by the coroner. I have thought about a man who died because somebody drove a vehicle whilst having a medical condition that affected that person’s ability to drive safely. As the member asked me what I have thought about, I can tell him that I have thought about the seriousness of the situation. If he thinks that is funny, he might want to think again. He can take the smirk off his face because this matter is very serious. Quite frankly, this issue is about protecting drivers and the interests of other road users. It is about road safety outcomes. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Before I give the call to Hon Peter Collier, I am concerned about the health of members. I am concerned that their capacity to drive is being diminished by the degree of shouting that we have just had to put up with.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have thought about the seriousness of a recommendation by the coroner. I have thought about a man who died because somebody drove a vehicle whilst having a medical condition that affected that person’s ability to drive safely. As the member asked me what I have thought about, I can tell him that I have thought about the seriousness of the situation. If he thinks that is funny, he might want to think again. He can take the smirk off his face because this matter is very serious. Quite frankly, this issue is about protecting drivers and the interests of other road users. It is about road safety outcomes. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Before I give the call to Hon Peter Collier, I am concerned about the health of members. I am concerned that their capacity to drive is being diminished by the degree of shouting that we have just had to put up with.
Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Before I give the call to Hon Peter Collier, I am concerned about the health of members. I am concerned that their capacity to drive is being diminished by the degree of shouting that we have just had to put up with.
The PRESIDENT : Order! Before I give the call to Hon Peter Collier, I am concerned about the health of members. I am concerned that their capacity to drive is being diminished by the degree of shouting that we have just had to put up with.

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