Mr. Buswell questions the Minister for Education regarding the living conditions of teachers in remote WA communities, alleging a specific case of uninhabitable housing. The Minister denies speaking to the teacher and accuses Mr. Buswell of making untrue statements.

AnsweredQoN 582Legislative Assembly
Asked
17 October 2007
Portfolio
Education and Training

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TEACHERS - ACCOMMODATION IN REMOTE COMMUNITIES
I refer to the situation confronting a Victorian teacher who moved to Western Australia this year to fulfil a long-held desire to teach in remote communities. I understand that the minister spoke to this teacher yesterday and knows that he, his partner and his six-week-old son have been put through hell in being expected to live in a government-supplied house at the Wingellina community which, in his opinion, is unliveable, with an open septic pit, severe structural concerns, no air conditioning and conditions that could generally be described as unhygienic. This has resulted in significant stress for this individual and his family and has left him seriously reassessing his commitment to remaining in Western Australia. (1) Why does the minister’s department expect teachers in remote communities to live in squalor? (2) How does the minister expect to attract Victorian teachers to Western Australia to work in remote areas when he cannot even provide basic human necessities such as appropriate shelter? (3) Why has the minister’s department taken the fuel purchase order book from the teacher, effectively stranding him in the remote community? Mr M. McGOWAN

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(1)-(3) As usual, the member for Vasse has made allegations without any facts. The first thing he said as part of his question was that I spoke to this teacher. I have not spoken to this teacher; I do not know what he is talking about. Mr T. Buswell : Is that right? Mr M. McGOWAN : No, I have not. It is typical of the member for Vasse to come into this place - Mr T. Buswell : Are you aware of his situation? Mr M. McGOWAN : Now he changes the question. He starts by making an initial point, which is wrong, and then he says, “Oh, I was wrong; I’ll change the question midway through.” I will follow up the facts, as alleged - Mr T. Buswell : You told him yesterday that it will be fixed in two days. Mr M. McGOWAN : There he goes again. I will follow up the facts as alleged by the member for Vasse. I can assure members that I have not spoken to this teacher. We go to huge efforts to try to retain teachers in Western Australia. In fact, I went to Victoria last week and I pointed out to Victorian teachers that Western Australian graduates will be paid roughly $4 000 more than graduates in Victoria at the start of next year. Plus, if they go to a remote community, they will be paid an allowance of $20 000. We are also putting in place a generous scholarship scheme to get people into country WA in the future. We are doing a lot. If the member for Vasse wants to provide the details rather than come into this place and say things that are untrue - Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr M. McGOWAN : The member for Vasse can say what he likes, but I know whom I spoke to yesterday. I did not speak to a Victorian teacher. He can come in here and say what he likes, but it is wrong. Maybe he should apologise for saying incorrect things in this house. The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order. He really does need to let the minister answer the question.
(1) Why does the minister’s department expect teachers in remote communities to live in squalor? (2) How does the minister expect to attract Victorian teachers to Western Australia to work in remote areas when he cannot even provide basic human necessities such as appropriate shelter? (3) Why has the minister’s department taken the fuel purchase order book from the teacher, effectively stranding him in the remote community? Mr M. McGOWAN replied: (1)-(3) As usual, the member for Vasse has made allegations without any facts. The first thing he said as part of his question was that I spoke to this teacher. I have not spoken to this teacher; I do not know what he is talking about. Mr T. Buswell : Is that right? Mr M. McGOWAN : No, I have not. It is typical of the member for Vasse to come into this place - Mr T. Buswell : Are you aware of his situation? Mr M. McGOWAN : Now he changes the question. He starts by making an initial point, which is wrong, and then he says, “Oh, I was wrong; I’ll change the question midway through.” I will follow up the facts, as alleged - Mr T. Buswell : You told him yesterday that it will be fixed in two days. Mr M. McGOWAN : There he goes again. I will follow up the facts as alleged by the member for Vasse. I can assure members that I have not spoken to this teacher. We go to huge efforts to try to retain teachers in Western Australia. In fact, I went to Victoria last week and I pointed out to Victorian teachers that Western Australian graduates will be paid roughly $4 000 more than graduates in Victoria at the start of next year. Plus, if they go to a remote community, they will be paid an allowance of $20 000. We are also putting in place a generous scholarship scheme to get people into country WA in the future. We are doing a lot. If the member for Vasse wants to provide the details rather than come into this place and say things that are untrue - Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr M. McGOWAN : The member for Vasse can say what he likes, but I know whom I spoke to yesterday. I did not speak to a Victorian teacher. He can come in here and say what he likes, but it is wrong. Maybe he should apologise for saying incorrect things in this house. The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order. He really does need to let the minister answer the question.
(2) How does the minister expect to attract Victorian teachers to Western Australia to work in remote areas when he cannot even provide basic human necessities such as appropriate shelter? (3) Why has the minister’s department taken the fuel purchase order book from the teacher, effectively stranding him in the remote community? Mr M. McGOWAN replied: (1)-(3) As usual, the member for Vasse has made allegations without any facts. The first thing he said as part of his question was that I spoke to this teacher. I have not spoken to this teacher; I do not know what he is talking about. Mr T. Buswell : Is that right? Mr M. McGOWAN : No, I have not. It is typical of the member for Vasse to come into this place - Mr T. Buswell : Are you aware of his situation? Mr M. McGOWAN : Now he changes the question. He starts by making an initial point, which is wrong, and then he says, “Oh, I was wrong; I’ll change the question midway through.” I will follow up the facts, as alleged - Mr T. Buswell : You told him yesterday that it will be fixed in two days. Mr M. McGOWAN : There he goes again. I will follow up the facts as alleged by the member for Vasse. I can assure members that I have not spoken to this teacher. We go to huge efforts to try to retain teachers in Western Australia. In fact, I went to Victoria last week and I pointed out to Victorian teachers that Western Australian graduates will be paid roughly $4 000 more than graduates in Victoria at the start of next year. Plus, if they go to a remote community, they will be paid an allowance of $20 000. We are also putting in place a generous scholarship scheme to get people into country WA in the future. We are doing a lot. If the member for Vasse wants to provide the details rather than come into this place and say things that are untrue - Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr M. McGOWAN : The member for Vasse can say what he likes, but I know whom I spoke to yesterday. I did not speak to a Victorian teacher. He can come in here and say what he likes, but it is wrong. Maybe he should apologise for saying incorrect things in this house. The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order. He really does need to let the minister answer the question.
(3) Why has the minister’s department taken the fuel purchase order book from the teacher, effectively stranding him in the remote community? Mr M. McGOWAN replied: (1)-(3) As usual, the member for Vasse has made allegations without any facts. The first thing he said as part of his question was that I spoke to this teacher. I have not spoken to this teacher; I do not know what he is talking about. Mr T. Buswell : Is that right? Mr M. McGOWAN : No, I have not. It is typical of the member for Vasse to come into this place - Mr T. Buswell : Are you aware of his situation? Mr M. McGOWAN : Now he changes the question. He starts by making an initial point, which is wrong, and then he says, “Oh, I was wrong; I’ll change the question midway through.” I will follow up the facts, as alleged - Mr T. Buswell : You told him yesterday that it will be fixed in two days. Mr M. McGOWAN : There he goes again. I will follow up the facts as alleged by the member for Vasse. I can assure members that I have not spoken to this teacher. We go to huge efforts to try to retain teachers in Western Australia. In fact, I went to Victoria last week and I pointed out to Victorian teachers that Western Australian graduates will be paid roughly $4 000 more than graduates in Victoria at the start of next year. Plus, if they go to a remote community, they will be paid an allowance of $20 000. We are also putting in place a generous scholarship scheme to get people into country WA in the future. We are doing a lot. If the member for Vasse wants to provide the details rather than come into this place and say things that are untrue - Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr M. McGOWAN : The member for Vasse can say what he likes, but I know whom I spoke to yesterday. I did not speak to a Victorian teacher. He can come in here and say what he likes, but it is wrong. Maybe he should apologise for saying incorrect things in this house. The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order. He really does need to let the minister answer the question.
Mr M. McGOWAN replied: (1)-(3) As usual, the member for Vasse has made allegations without any facts. The first thing he said as part of his question was that I spoke to this teacher. I have not spoken to this teacher; I do not know what he is talking about. Mr T. Buswell : Is that right? Mr M. McGOWAN : No, I have not. It is typical of the member for Vasse to come into this place - Mr T. Buswell : Are you aware of his situation? Mr M. McGOWAN : Now he changes the question. He starts by making an initial point, which is wrong, and then he says, “Oh, I was wrong; I’ll change the question midway through.” I will follow up the facts, as alleged - Mr T. Buswell : You told him yesterday that it will be fixed in two days. Mr M. McGOWAN : There he goes again. I will follow up the facts as alleged by the member for Vasse. I can assure members that I have not spoken to this teacher. We go to huge efforts to try to retain teachers in Western Australia. In fact, I went to Victoria last week and I pointed out to Victorian teachers that Western Australian graduates will be paid roughly $4 000 more than graduates in Victoria at the start of next year. Plus, if they go to a remote community, they will be paid an allowance of $20 000. We are also putting in place a generous scholarship scheme to get people into country WA in the future. We are doing a lot. If the member for Vasse wants to provide the details rather than come into this place and say things that are untrue - Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr M. McGOWAN : The member for Vasse can say what he likes, but I know whom I spoke to yesterday. I did not speak to a Victorian teacher. He can come in here and say what he likes, but it is wrong. Maybe he should apologise for saying incorrect things in this house. The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order. He really does need to let the minister answer the question.
(1)-(3) As usual, the member for Vasse has made allegations without any facts. The first thing he said as part of his question was that I spoke to this teacher. I have not spoken to this teacher; I do not know what he is talking about. Mr T. Buswell : Is that right? Mr M. McGOWAN : No, I have not. It is typical of the member for Vasse to come into this place - Mr T. Buswell : Are you aware of his situation? Mr M. McGOWAN : Now he changes the question. He starts by making an initial point, which is wrong, and then he says, “Oh, I was wrong; I’ll change the question midway through.” I will follow up the facts, as alleged - Mr T. Buswell : You told him yesterday that it will be fixed in two days. Mr M. McGOWAN : There he goes again. I will follow up the facts as alleged by the member for Vasse. I can assure members that I have not spoken to this teacher. We go to huge efforts to try to retain teachers in Western Australia. In fact, I went to Victoria last week and I pointed out to Victorian teachers that Western Australian graduates will be paid roughly $4 000 more than graduates in Victoria at the start of next year. Plus, if they go to a remote community, they will be paid an allowance of $20 000. We are also putting in place a generous scholarship scheme to get people into country WA in the future. We are doing a lot. If the member for Vasse wants to provide the details rather than come into this place and say things that are untrue - Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr M. McGOWAN : The member for Vasse can say what he likes, but I know whom I spoke to yesterday. I did not speak to a Victorian teacher. He can come in here and say what he likes, but it is wrong. Maybe he should apologise for saying incorrect things in this house. The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order. He really does need to let the minister answer the question.
Mr T. Buswell : Is that right? Mr M. McGOWAN : No, I have not. It is typical of the member for Vasse to come into this place - Mr T. Buswell : Are you aware of his situation? Mr M. McGOWAN : Now he changes the question. He starts by making an initial point, which is wrong, and then he says, “Oh, I was wrong; I’ll change the question midway through.” I will follow up the facts, as alleged - Mr T. Buswell : You told him yesterday that it will be fixed in two days. Mr M. McGOWAN : There he goes again. I will follow up the facts as alleged by the member for Vasse. I can assure members that I have not spoken to this teacher. We go to huge efforts to try to retain teachers in Western Australia. In fact, I went to Victoria last week and I pointed out to Victorian teachers that Western Australian graduates will be paid roughly $4 000 more than graduates in Victoria at the start of next year. Plus, if they go to a remote community, they will be paid an allowance of $20 000. We are also putting in place a generous scholarship scheme to get people into country WA in the future. We are doing a lot. If the member for Vasse wants to provide the details rather than come into this place and say things that are untrue - Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr M. McGOWAN : The member for Vasse can say what he likes, but I know whom I spoke to yesterday. I did not speak to a Victorian teacher. He can come in here and say what he likes, but it is wrong. Maybe he should apologise for saying incorrect things in this house. The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order. He really does need to let the minister answer the question.
Mr M. McGOWAN : No, I have not. It is typical of the member for Vasse to come into this place - Mr T. Buswell : Are you aware of his situation? Mr M. McGOWAN : Now he changes the question. He starts by making an initial point, which is wrong, and then he says, “Oh, I was wrong; I’ll change the question midway through.” I will follow up the facts, as alleged - Mr T. Buswell : You told him yesterday that it will be fixed in two days. Mr M. McGOWAN : There he goes again. I will follow up the facts as alleged by the member for Vasse. I can assure members that I have not spoken to this teacher. We go to huge efforts to try to retain teachers in Western Australia. In fact, I went to Victoria last week and I pointed out to Victorian teachers that Western Australian graduates will be paid roughly $4 000 more than graduates in Victoria at the start of next year. Plus, if they go to a remote community, they will be paid an allowance of $20 000. We are also putting in place a generous scholarship scheme to get people into country WA in the future. We are doing a lot. If the member for Vasse wants to provide the details rather than come into this place and say things that are untrue - Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr M. McGOWAN : The member for Vasse can say what he likes, but I know whom I spoke to yesterday. I did not speak to a Victorian teacher. He can come in here and say what he likes, but it is wrong. Maybe he should apologise for saying incorrect things in this house. The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order. He really does need to let the minister answer the question.
Mr T. Buswell : Are you aware of his situation? Mr M. McGOWAN : Now he changes the question. He starts by making an initial point, which is wrong, and then he says, “Oh, I was wrong; I’ll change the question midway through.” I will follow up the facts, as alleged - Mr T. Buswell : You told him yesterday that it will be fixed in two days. Mr M. McGOWAN : There he goes again. I will follow up the facts as alleged by the member for Vasse. I can assure members that I have not spoken to this teacher. We go to huge efforts to try to retain teachers in Western Australia. In fact, I went to Victoria last week and I pointed out to Victorian teachers that Western Australian graduates will be paid roughly $4 000 more than graduates in Victoria at the start of next year. Plus, if they go to a remote community, they will be paid an allowance of $20 000. We are also putting in place a generous scholarship scheme to get people into country WA in the future. We are doing a lot. If the member for Vasse wants to provide the details rather than come into this place and say things that are untrue - Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr M. McGOWAN : The member for Vasse can say what he likes, but I know whom I spoke to yesterday. I did not speak to a Victorian teacher. He can come in here and say what he likes, but it is wrong. Maybe he should apologise for saying incorrect things in this house. The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order. He really does need to let the minister answer the question.
Mr M. McGOWAN : Now he changes the question. He starts by making an initial point, which is wrong, and then he says, “Oh, I was wrong; I’ll change the question midway through.” I will follow up the facts, as alleged - Mr T. Buswell : You told him yesterday that it will be fixed in two days. Mr M. McGOWAN : There he goes again. I will follow up the facts as alleged by the member for Vasse. I can assure members that I have not spoken to this teacher. We go to huge efforts to try to retain teachers in Western Australia. In fact, I went to Victoria last week and I pointed out to Victorian teachers that Western Australian graduates will be paid roughly $4 000 more than graduates in Victoria at the start of next year. Plus, if they go to a remote community, they will be paid an allowance of $20 000. We are also putting in place a generous scholarship scheme to get people into country WA in the future. We are doing a lot. If the member for Vasse wants to provide the details rather than come into this place and say things that are untrue - Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr M. McGOWAN : The member for Vasse can say what he likes, but I know whom I spoke to yesterday. I did not speak to a Victorian teacher. He can come in here and say what he likes, but it is wrong. Maybe he should apologise for saying incorrect things in this house. The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order. He really does need to let the minister answer the question.
Mr T. Buswell : You told him yesterday that it will be fixed in two days. Mr M. McGOWAN : There he goes again. I will follow up the facts as alleged by the member for Vasse. I can assure members that I have not spoken to this teacher. We go to huge efforts to try to retain teachers in Western Australia. In fact, I went to Victoria last week and I pointed out to Victorian teachers that Western Australian graduates will be paid roughly $4 000 more than graduates in Victoria at the start of next year. Plus, if they go to a remote community, they will be paid an allowance of $20 000. We are also putting in place a generous scholarship scheme to get people into country WA in the future. We are doing a lot. If the member for Vasse wants to provide the details rather than come into this place and say things that are untrue - Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr M. McGOWAN : The member for Vasse can say what he likes, but I know whom I spoke to yesterday. I did not speak to a Victorian teacher. He can come in here and say what he likes, but it is wrong. Maybe he should apologise for saying incorrect things in this house. The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order. He really does need to let the minister answer the question.
Mr M. McGOWAN : There he goes again. I will follow up the facts as alleged by the member for Vasse. I can assure members that I have not spoken to this teacher. We go to huge efforts to try to retain teachers in Western Australia. In fact, I went to Victoria last week and I pointed out to Victorian teachers that Western Australian graduates will be paid roughly $4 000 more than graduates in Victoria at the start of next year. Plus, if they go to a remote community, they will be paid an allowance of $20 000. We are also putting in place a generous scholarship scheme to get people into country WA in the future. We are doing a lot. If the member for Vasse wants to provide the details rather than come into this place and say things that are untrue - Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr M. McGOWAN : The member for Vasse can say what he likes, but I know whom I spoke to yesterday. I did not speak to a Victorian teacher. He can come in here and say what he likes, but it is wrong. Maybe he should apologise for saying incorrect things in this house. The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order. He really does need to let the minister answer the question.
Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr M. McGOWAN : The member for Vasse can say what he likes, but I know whom I spoke to yesterday. I did not speak to a Victorian teacher. He can come in here and say what he likes, but it is wrong. Maybe he should apologise for saying incorrect things in this house. The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order. He really does need to let the minister answer the question.
Mr M. McGOWAN : The member for Vasse can say what he likes, but I know whom I spoke to yesterday. I did not speak to a Victorian teacher. He can come in here and say what he likes, but it is wrong. Maybe he should apologise for saying incorrect things in this house. The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order. He really does need to let the minister answer the question.
The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order. He really does need to let the minister answer the question.

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