❓ A parliamentary question regarding the impact of alcohol restrictions in Fitzroy Crossing, including potential displacement of Indigenous people to Broome and Derby. The Minister acknowledges both positive and negative effects, including reduced alcohol-related harm in Fitzroy Crossing but potential increases in issues in other towns.
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FITZROY CROSSING - LIQUOR RESTRICTIONS
I refer to the restrictions imposed by the Director of Liquor Licensing under section 64(2a) of the Liquor Control Act 1988 to ban the sale of packaged liquor with an alcohol content of more than 2.7 per cent for a period of six months by the Crossing Inn, effective from Tuesday, 2 October 2007. (1) What has been the practical effect of this decision? (2) Is the minister aware of claims that as a consequence of the ban, a significant number of Indigenous people have moved from Fitzroy Crossing to Broome and Derby to avoid the ban? (3) Are these claims accurate? (4) Has there been an increase in unlawful drinking in these towns as a consequence of the ban, leading to community complaints? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH
I refer to the restrictions imposed by the Director of Liquor Licensing under section 64(2a) of the Liquor Control Act 1988 to ban the sale of packaged liquor with an alcohol content of more than 2.7 per cent for a period of six months by the Crossing Inn, effective from Tuesday, 2 October 2007. (1) What has been the practical effect of this decision? (2) Is the minister aware of claims that as a consequence of the ban, a significant number of Indigenous people have moved from Fitzroy Crossing to Broome and Derby to avoid the ban? (3) Are these claims accurate? (4) Has there been an increase in unlawful drinking in these towns as a consequence of the ban, leading to community complaints? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH
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It is a very good question and I thank the member for the question. (1)-(4) Firstly, the practical effects are both positive and negative. I visited the area a couple of weeks ago, and met with approximately 70 members of the Fitzroy Crossing community and surrounding communities together with the publican, business representatives in that community and a hospital administrator, and I have to say that some of the indicators reported were indeed very, very positive. Certainly, the hospital reported to us that the number of incidents that result from harm related to drinking, such as physical assaults etc, was considerably reduced. There had been very peaceful nights; people could sleep comfortably in their homes without hearing noise and disturbances. There had been an increase in the number of people attending work at the hospital, for example; in fact, there had also been an increase in the number of people looking for work at the hospital. There were very positive indicators in relation to antisocial behaviour. There were also positive indicators in that students were attending school. The number of grandparents looking after children was not as high because parents were present and accepting that responsibility. They were the sort of positive things. Hon George Cash : This is in Fitzroy? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is in Fitzroy. Hon George Cash : How are things going in Broome and Derby? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Let me get onto that. One adverse impact was that some people had moved from the Fitzroy Valley. Hon George Cash : How many people do you think is “some”? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is an interesting question and when I put it to people in the community, they could not quantify how many people this concerned. Apart from anything else, there is some movement of people, irrespective of what goes on - restrictions or no restrictions - at certain times of the year. The other issue complicating the movement of people is the fact that the community development employment program, which is funded by the commonwealth, for example, has been reduced or closed in some of the communities. Therefore, there is a view that some people may well have moved in search of employment opportunities or, indeed, other opportunities. Certainly, there has been some movement; it is difficult to quantify. I know that there is some unhappiness among some of the businesses in and around Broome and Derby because there has been an increase in the number of people moving from the Fitzroy Valley into those bigger centres. However, I cannot quantify exact numbers. Any action in dealing with this very, very complex issue has some level of reaction, so we need to accept that that is a fact.
(1) What has been the practical effect of this decision? (2) Is the minister aware of claims that as a consequence of the ban, a significant number of Indigenous people have moved from Fitzroy Crossing to Broome and Derby to avoid the ban? (3) Are these claims accurate? (4) Has there been an increase in unlawful drinking in these towns as a consequence of the ban, leading to community complaints? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: It is a very good question and I thank the member for the question. (1)-(4) Firstly, the practical effects are both positive and negative. I visited the area a couple of weeks ago, and met with approximately 70 members of the Fitzroy Crossing community and surrounding communities together with the publican, business representatives in that community and a hospital administrator, and I have to say that some of the indicators reported were indeed very, very positive. Certainly, the hospital reported to us that the number of incidents that result from harm related to drinking, such as physical assaults etc, was considerably reduced. There had been very peaceful nights; people could sleep comfortably in their homes without hearing noise and disturbances. There had been an increase in the number of people attending work at the hospital, for example; in fact, there had also been an increase in the number of people looking for work at the hospital. There were very positive indicators in relation to antisocial behaviour. There were also positive indicators in that students were attending school. The number of grandparents looking after children was not as high because parents were present and accepting that responsibility. They were the sort of positive things. Hon George Cash : This is in Fitzroy? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is in Fitzroy. Hon George Cash : How are things going in Broome and Derby? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Let me get onto that. One adverse impact was that some people had moved from the Fitzroy Valley. Hon George Cash : How many people do you think is “some”? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is an interesting question and when I put it to people in the community, they could not quantify how many people this concerned. Apart from anything else, there is some movement of people, irrespective of what goes on - restrictions or no restrictions - at certain times of the year. The other issue complicating the movement of people is the fact that the community development employment program, which is funded by the commonwealth, for example, has been reduced or closed in some of the communities. Therefore, there is a view that some people may well have moved in search of employment opportunities or, indeed, other opportunities. Certainly, there has been some movement; it is difficult to quantify. I know that there is some unhappiness among some of the businesses in and around Broome and Derby because there has been an increase in the number of people moving from the Fitzroy Valley into those bigger centres. However, I cannot quantify exact numbers. Any action in dealing with this very, very complex issue has some level of reaction, so we need to accept that that is a fact.
(2) Is the minister aware of claims that as a consequence of the ban, a significant number of Indigenous people have moved from Fitzroy Crossing to Broome and Derby to avoid the ban? (3) Are these claims accurate? (4) Has there been an increase in unlawful drinking in these towns as a consequence of the ban, leading to community complaints? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: It is a very good question and I thank the member for the question. (1)-(4) Firstly, the practical effects are both positive and negative. I visited the area a couple of weeks ago, and met with approximately 70 members of the Fitzroy Crossing community and surrounding communities together with the publican, business representatives in that community and a hospital administrator, and I have to say that some of the indicators reported were indeed very, very positive. Certainly, the hospital reported to us that the number of incidents that result from harm related to drinking, such as physical assaults etc, was considerably reduced. There had been very peaceful nights; people could sleep comfortably in their homes without hearing noise and disturbances. There had been an increase in the number of people attending work at the hospital, for example; in fact, there had also been an increase in the number of people looking for work at the hospital. There were very positive indicators in relation to antisocial behaviour. There were also positive indicators in that students were attending school. The number of grandparents looking after children was not as high because parents were present and accepting that responsibility. They were the sort of positive things. Hon George Cash : This is in Fitzroy? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is in Fitzroy. Hon George Cash : How are things going in Broome and Derby? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Let me get onto that. One adverse impact was that some people had moved from the Fitzroy Valley. Hon George Cash : How many people do you think is “some”? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is an interesting question and when I put it to people in the community, they could not quantify how many people this concerned. Apart from anything else, there is some movement of people, irrespective of what goes on - restrictions or no restrictions - at certain times of the year. The other issue complicating the movement of people is the fact that the community development employment program, which is funded by the commonwealth, for example, has been reduced or closed in some of the communities. Therefore, there is a view that some people may well have moved in search of employment opportunities or, indeed, other opportunities. Certainly, there has been some movement; it is difficult to quantify. I know that there is some unhappiness among some of the businesses in and around Broome and Derby because there has been an increase in the number of people moving from the Fitzroy Valley into those bigger centres. However, I cannot quantify exact numbers. Any action in dealing with this very, very complex issue has some level of reaction, so we need to accept that that is a fact.
(3) Are these claims accurate? (4) Has there been an increase in unlawful drinking in these towns as a consequence of the ban, leading to community complaints? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: It is a very good question and I thank the member for the question. (1)-(4) Firstly, the practical effects are both positive and negative. I visited the area a couple of weeks ago, and met with approximately 70 members of the Fitzroy Crossing community and surrounding communities together with the publican, business representatives in that community and a hospital administrator, and I have to say that some of the indicators reported were indeed very, very positive. Certainly, the hospital reported to us that the number of incidents that result from harm related to drinking, such as physical assaults etc, was considerably reduced. There had been very peaceful nights; people could sleep comfortably in their homes without hearing noise and disturbances. There had been an increase in the number of people attending work at the hospital, for example; in fact, there had also been an increase in the number of people looking for work at the hospital. There were very positive indicators in relation to antisocial behaviour. There were also positive indicators in that students were attending school. The number of grandparents looking after children was not as high because parents were present and accepting that responsibility. They were the sort of positive things. Hon George Cash : This is in Fitzroy? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is in Fitzroy. Hon George Cash : How are things going in Broome and Derby? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Let me get onto that. One adverse impact was that some people had moved from the Fitzroy Valley. Hon George Cash : How many people do you think is “some”? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is an interesting question and when I put it to people in the community, they could not quantify how many people this concerned. Apart from anything else, there is some movement of people, irrespective of what goes on - restrictions or no restrictions - at certain times of the year. The other issue complicating the movement of people is the fact that the community development employment program, which is funded by the commonwealth, for example, has been reduced or closed in some of the communities. Therefore, there is a view that some people may well have moved in search of employment opportunities or, indeed, other opportunities. Certainly, there has been some movement; it is difficult to quantify. I know that there is some unhappiness among some of the businesses in and around Broome and Derby because there has been an increase in the number of people moving from the Fitzroy Valley into those bigger centres. However, I cannot quantify exact numbers. Any action in dealing with this very, very complex issue has some level of reaction, so we need to accept that that is a fact.
(4) Has there been an increase in unlawful drinking in these towns as a consequence of the ban, leading to community complaints? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: It is a very good question and I thank the member for the question. (1)-(4) Firstly, the practical effects are both positive and negative. I visited the area a couple of weeks ago, and met with approximately 70 members of the Fitzroy Crossing community and surrounding communities together with the publican, business representatives in that community and a hospital administrator, and I have to say that some of the indicators reported were indeed very, very positive. Certainly, the hospital reported to us that the number of incidents that result from harm related to drinking, such as physical assaults etc, was considerably reduced. There had been very peaceful nights; people could sleep comfortably in their homes without hearing noise and disturbances. There had been an increase in the number of people attending work at the hospital, for example; in fact, there had also been an increase in the number of people looking for work at the hospital. There were very positive indicators in relation to antisocial behaviour. There were also positive indicators in that students were attending school. The number of grandparents looking after children was not as high because parents were present and accepting that responsibility. They were the sort of positive things. Hon George Cash : This is in Fitzroy? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is in Fitzroy. Hon George Cash : How are things going in Broome and Derby? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Let me get onto that. One adverse impact was that some people had moved from the Fitzroy Valley. Hon George Cash : How many people do you think is “some”? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is an interesting question and when I put it to people in the community, they could not quantify how many people this concerned. Apart from anything else, there is some movement of people, irrespective of what goes on - restrictions or no restrictions - at certain times of the year. The other issue complicating the movement of people is the fact that the community development employment program, which is funded by the commonwealth, for example, has been reduced or closed in some of the communities. Therefore, there is a view that some people may well have moved in search of employment opportunities or, indeed, other opportunities. Certainly, there has been some movement; it is difficult to quantify. I know that there is some unhappiness among some of the businesses in and around Broome and Derby because there has been an increase in the number of people moving from the Fitzroy Valley into those bigger centres. However, I cannot quantify exact numbers. Any action in dealing with this very, very complex issue has some level of reaction, so we need to accept that that is a fact.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: It is a very good question and I thank the member for the question. (1)-(4) Firstly, the practical effects are both positive and negative. I visited the area a couple of weeks ago, and met with approximately 70 members of the Fitzroy Crossing community and surrounding communities together with the publican, business representatives in that community and a hospital administrator, and I have to say that some of the indicators reported were indeed very, very positive. Certainly, the hospital reported to us that the number of incidents that result from harm related to drinking, such as physical assaults etc, was considerably reduced. There had been very peaceful nights; people could sleep comfortably in their homes without hearing noise and disturbances. There had been an increase in the number of people attending work at the hospital, for example; in fact, there had also been an increase in the number of people looking for work at the hospital. There were very positive indicators in relation to antisocial behaviour. There were also positive indicators in that students were attending school. The number of grandparents looking after children was not as high because parents were present and accepting that responsibility. They were the sort of positive things. Hon George Cash : This is in Fitzroy? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is in Fitzroy. Hon George Cash : How are things going in Broome and Derby? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Let me get onto that. One adverse impact was that some people had moved from the Fitzroy Valley. Hon George Cash : How many people do you think is “some”? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is an interesting question and when I put it to people in the community, they could not quantify how many people this concerned. Apart from anything else, there is some movement of people, irrespective of what goes on - restrictions or no restrictions - at certain times of the year. The other issue complicating the movement of people is the fact that the community development employment program, which is funded by the commonwealth, for example, has been reduced or closed in some of the communities. Therefore, there is a view that some people may well have moved in search of employment opportunities or, indeed, other opportunities. Certainly, there has been some movement; it is difficult to quantify. I know that there is some unhappiness among some of the businesses in and around Broome and Derby because there has been an increase in the number of people moving from the Fitzroy Valley into those bigger centres. However, I cannot quantify exact numbers. Any action in dealing with this very, very complex issue has some level of reaction, so we need to accept that that is a fact.
It is a very good question and I thank the member for the question. (1)-(4) Firstly, the practical effects are both positive and negative. I visited the area a couple of weeks ago, and met with approximately 70 members of the Fitzroy Crossing community and surrounding communities together with the publican, business representatives in that community and a hospital administrator, and I have to say that some of the indicators reported were indeed very, very positive. Certainly, the hospital reported to us that the number of incidents that result from harm related to drinking, such as physical assaults etc, was considerably reduced. There had been very peaceful nights; people could sleep comfortably in their homes without hearing noise and disturbances. There had been an increase in the number of people attending work at the hospital, for example; in fact, there had also been an increase in the number of people looking for work at the hospital. There were very positive indicators in relation to antisocial behaviour. There were also positive indicators in that students were attending school. The number of grandparents looking after children was not as high because parents were present and accepting that responsibility. They were the sort of positive things. Hon George Cash : This is in Fitzroy? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is in Fitzroy. Hon George Cash : How are things going in Broome and Derby? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Let me get onto that. One adverse impact was that some people had moved from the Fitzroy Valley. Hon George Cash : How many people do you think is “some”? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is an interesting question and when I put it to people in the community, they could not quantify how many people this concerned. Apart from anything else, there is some movement of people, irrespective of what goes on - restrictions or no restrictions - at certain times of the year. The other issue complicating the movement of people is the fact that the community development employment program, which is funded by the commonwealth, for example, has been reduced or closed in some of the communities. Therefore, there is a view that some people may well have moved in search of employment opportunities or, indeed, other opportunities. Certainly, there has been some movement; it is difficult to quantify. I know that there is some unhappiness among some of the businesses in and around Broome and Derby because there has been an increase in the number of people moving from the Fitzroy Valley into those bigger centres. However, I cannot quantify exact numbers. Any action in dealing with this very, very complex issue has some level of reaction, so we need to accept that that is a fact.
(1)-(4) Firstly, the practical effects are both positive and negative. I visited the area a couple of weeks ago, and met with approximately 70 members of the Fitzroy Crossing community and surrounding communities together with the publican, business representatives in that community and a hospital administrator, and I have to say that some of the indicators reported were indeed very, very positive. Certainly, the hospital reported to us that the number of incidents that result from harm related to drinking, such as physical assaults etc, was considerably reduced. There had been very peaceful nights; people could sleep comfortably in their homes without hearing noise and disturbances. There had been an increase in the number of people attending work at the hospital, for example; in fact, there had also been an increase in the number of people looking for work at the hospital. There were very positive indicators in relation to antisocial behaviour. There were also positive indicators in that students were attending school. The number of grandparents looking after children was not as high because parents were present and accepting that responsibility. They were the sort of positive things. Hon George Cash : This is in Fitzroy? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is in Fitzroy. Hon George Cash : How are things going in Broome and Derby? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Let me get onto that. One adverse impact was that some people had moved from the Fitzroy Valley. Hon George Cash : How many people do you think is “some”? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is an interesting question and when I put it to people in the community, they could not quantify how many people this concerned. Apart from anything else, there is some movement of people, irrespective of what goes on - restrictions or no restrictions - at certain times of the year. The other issue complicating the movement of people is the fact that the community development employment program, which is funded by the commonwealth, for example, has been reduced or closed in some of the communities. Therefore, there is a view that some people may well have moved in search of employment opportunities or, indeed, other opportunities. Certainly, there has been some movement; it is difficult to quantify. I know that there is some unhappiness among some of the businesses in and around Broome and Derby because there has been an increase in the number of people moving from the Fitzroy Valley into those bigger centres. However, I cannot quantify exact numbers. Any action in dealing with this very, very complex issue has some level of reaction, so we need to accept that that is a fact.
Hon George Cash : This is in Fitzroy? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is in Fitzroy. Hon George Cash : How are things going in Broome and Derby? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Let me get onto that. One adverse impact was that some people had moved from the Fitzroy Valley. Hon George Cash : How many people do you think is “some”? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is an interesting question and when I put it to people in the community, they could not quantify how many people this concerned. Apart from anything else, there is some movement of people, irrespective of what goes on - restrictions or no restrictions - at certain times of the year. The other issue complicating the movement of people is the fact that the community development employment program, which is funded by the commonwealth, for example, has been reduced or closed in some of the communities. Therefore, there is a view that some people may well have moved in search of employment opportunities or, indeed, other opportunities. Certainly, there has been some movement; it is difficult to quantify. I know that there is some unhappiness among some of the businesses in and around Broome and Derby because there has been an increase in the number of people moving from the Fitzroy Valley into those bigger centres. However, I cannot quantify exact numbers. Any action in dealing with this very, very complex issue has some level of reaction, so we need to accept that that is a fact.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is in Fitzroy. Hon George Cash : How are things going in Broome and Derby? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Let me get onto that. One adverse impact was that some people had moved from the Fitzroy Valley. Hon George Cash : How many people do you think is “some”? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is an interesting question and when I put it to people in the community, they could not quantify how many people this concerned. Apart from anything else, there is some movement of people, irrespective of what goes on - restrictions or no restrictions - at certain times of the year. The other issue complicating the movement of people is the fact that the community development employment program, which is funded by the commonwealth, for example, has been reduced or closed in some of the communities. Therefore, there is a view that some people may well have moved in search of employment opportunities or, indeed, other opportunities. Certainly, there has been some movement; it is difficult to quantify. I know that there is some unhappiness among some of the businesses in and around Broome and Derby because there has been an increase in the number of people moving from the Fitzroy Valley into those bigger centres. However, I cannot quantify exact numbers. Any action in dealing with this very, very complex issue has some level of reaction, so we need to accept that that is a fact.
Hon George Cash : How are things going in Broome and Derby? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Let me get onto that. One adverse impact was that some people had moved from the Fitzroy Valley. Hon George Cash : How many people do you think is “some”? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is an interesting question and when I put it to people in the community, they could not quantify how many people this concerned. Apart from anything else, there is some movement of people, irrespective of what goes on - restrictions or no restrictions - at certain times of the year. The other issue complicating the movement of people is the fact that the community development employment program, which is funded by the commonwealth, for example, has been reduced or closed in some of the communities. Therefore, there is a view that some people may well have moved in search of employment opportunities or, indeed, other opportunities. Certainly, there has been some movement; it is difficult to quantify. I know that there is some unhappiness among some of the businesses in and around Broome and Derby because there has been an increase in the number of people moving from the Fitzroy Valley into those bigger centres. However, I cannot quantify exact numbers. Any action in dealing with this very, very complex issue has some level of reaction, so we need to accept that that is a fact.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Let me get onto that. One adverse impact was that some people had moved from the Fitzroy Valley. Hon George Cash : How many people do you think is “some”? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is an interesting question and when I put it to people in the community, they could not quantify how many people this concerned. Apart from anything else, there is some movement of people, irrespective of what goes on - restrictions or no restrictions - at certain times of the year. The other issue complicating the movement of people is the fact that the community development employment program, which is funded by the commonwealth, for example, has been reduced or closed in some of the communities. Therefore, there is a view that some people may well have moved in search of employment opportunities or, indeed, other opportunities. Certainly, there has been some movement; it is difficult to quantify. I know that there is some unhappiness among some of the businesses in and around Broome and Derby because there has been an increase in the number of people moving from the Fitzroy Valley into those bigger centres. However, I cannot quantify exact numbers. Any action in dealing with this very, very complex issue has some level of reaction, so we need to accept that that is a fact.
Hon George Cash : How many people do you think is “some”? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is an interesting question and when I put it to people in the community, they could not quantify how many people this concerned. Apart from anything else, there is some movement of people, irrespective of what goes on - restrictions or no restrictions - at certain times of the year. The other issue complicating the movement of people is the fact that the community development employment program, which is funded by the commonwealth, for example, has been reduced or closed in some of the communities. Therefore, there is a view that some people may well have moved in search of employment opportunities or, indeed, other opportunities. Certainly, there has been some movement; it is difficult to quantify. I know that there is some unhappiness among some of the businesses in and around Broome and Derby because there has been an increase in the number of people moving from the Fitzroy Valley into those bigger centres. However, I cannot quantify exact numbers. Any action in dealing with this very, very complex issue has some level of reaction, so we need to accept that that is a fact.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is an interesting question and when I put it to people in the community, they could not quantify how many people this concerned. Apart from anything else, there is some movement of people, irrespective of what goes on - restrictions or no restrictions - at certain times of the year. The other issue complicating the movement of people is the fact that the community development employment program, which is funded by the commonwealth, for example, has been reduced or closed in some of the communities. Therefore, there is a view that some people may well have moved in search of employment opportunities or, indeed, other opportunities. Certainly, there has been some movement; it is difficult to quantify. I know that there is some unhappiness among some of the businesses in and around Broome and Derby because there has been an increase in the number of people moving from the Fitzroy Valley into those bigger centres. However, I cannot quantify exact numbers. Any action in dealing with this very, very complex issue has some level of reaction, so we need to accept that that is a fact.
I know that there is some unhappiness among some of the businesses in and around Broome and Derby because there has been an increase in the number of people moving from the Fitzroy Valley into those bigger centres. However, I cannot quantify exact numbers. Any action in dealing with this very, very complex issue has some level of reaction, so we need to accept that that is a fact.
(1) What has been the practical effect of this decision? (2) Is the minister aware of claims that as a consequence of the ban, a significant number of Indigenous people have moved from Fitzroy Crossing to Broome and Derby to avoid the ban? (3) Are these claims accurate? (4) Has there been an increase in unlawful drinking in these towns as a consequence of the ban, leading to community complaints? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: It is a very good question and I thank the member for the question. (1)-(4) Firstly, the practical effects are both positive and negative. I visited the area a couple of weeks ago, and met with approximately 70 members of the Fitzroy Crossing community and surrounding communities together with the publican, business representatives in that community and a hospital administrator, and I have to say that some of the indicators reported were indeed very, very positive. Certainly, the hospital reported to us that the number of incidents that result from harm related to drinking, such as physical assaults etc, was considerably reduced. There had been very peaceful nights; people could sleep comfortably in their homes without hearing noise and disturbances. There had been an increase in the number of people attending work at the hospital, for example; in fact, there had also been an increase in the number of people looking for work at the hospital. There were very positive indicators in relation to antisocial behaviour. There were also positive indicators in that students were attending school. The number of grandparents looking after children was not as high because parents were present and accepting that responsibility. They were the sort of positive things. Hon George Cash : This is in Fitzroy? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is in Fitzroy. Hon George Cash : How are things going in Broome and Derby? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Let me get onto that. One adverse impact was that some people had moved from the Fitzroy Valley. Hon George Cash : How many people do you think is “some”? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is an interesting question and when I put it to people in the community, they could not quantify how many people this concerned. Apart from anything else, there is some movement of people, irrespective of what goes on - restrictions or no restrictions - at certain times of the year. The other issue complicating the movement of people is the fact that the community development employment program, which is funded by the commonwealth, for example, has been reduced or closed in some of the communities. Therefore, there is a view that some people may well have moved in search of employment opportunities or, indeed, other opportunities. Certainly, there has been some movement; it is difficult to quantify. I know that there is some unhappiness among some of the businesses in and around Broome and Derby because there has been an increase in the number of people moving from the Fitzroy Valley into those bigger centres. However, I cannot quantify exact numbers. Any action in dealing with this very, very complex issue has some level of reaction, so we need to accept that that is a fact.
(2) Is the minister aware of claims that as a consequence of the ban, a significant number of Indigenous people have moved from Fitzroy Crossing to Broome and Derby to avoid the ban? (3) Are these claims accurate? (4) Has there been an increase in unlawful drinking in these towns as a consequence of the ban, leading to community complaints? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: It is a very good question and I thank the member for the question. (1)-(4) Firstly, the practical effects are both positive and negative. I visited the area a couple of weeks ago, and met with approximately 70 members of the Fitzroy Crossing community and surrounding communities together with the publican, business representatives in that community and a hospital administrator, and I have to say that some of the indicators reported were indeed very, very positive. Certainly, the hospital reported to us that the number of incidents that result from harm related to drinking, such as physical assaults etc, was considerably reduced. There had been very peaceful nights; people could sleep comfortably in their homes without hearing noise and disturbances. There had been an increase in the number of people attending work at the hospital, for example; in fact, there had also been an increase in the number of people looking for work at the hospital. There were very positive indicators in relation to antisocial behaviour. There were also positive indicators in that students were attending school. The number of grandparents looking after children was not as high because parents were present and accepting that responsibility. They were the sort of positive things. Hon George Cash : This is in Fitzroy? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is in Fitzroy. Hon George Cash : How are things going in Broome and Derby? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Let me get onto that. One adverse impact was that some people had moved from the Fitzroy Valley. Hon George Cash : How many people do you think is “some”? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is an interesting question and when I put it to people in the community, they could not quantify how many people this concerned. Apart from anything else, there is some movement of people, irrespective of what goes on - restrictions or no restrictions - at certain times of the year. The other issue complicating the movement of people is the fact that the community development employment program, which is funded by the commonwealth, for example, has been reduced or closed in some of the communities. Therefore, there is a view that some people may well have moved in search of employment opportunities or, indeed, other opportunities. Certainly, there has been some movement; it is difficult to quantify. I know that there is some unhappiness among some of the businesses in and around Broome and Derby because there has been an increase in the number of people moving from the Fitzroy Valley into those bigger centres. However, I cannot quantify exact numbers. Any action in dealing with this very, very complex issue has some level of reaction, so we need to accept that that is a fact.
(3) Are these claims accurate? (4) Has there been an increase in unlawful drinking in these towns as a consequence of the ban, leading to community complaints? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: It is a very good question and I thank the member for the question. (1)-(4) Firstly, the practical effects are both positive and negative. I visited the area a couple of weeks ago, and met with approximately 70 members of the Fitzroy Crossing community and surrounding communities together with the publican, business representatives in that community and a hospital administrator, and I have to say that some of the indicators reported were indeed very, very positive. Certainly, the hospital reported to us that the number of incidents that result from harm related to drinking, such as physical assaults etc, was considerably reduced. There had been very peaceful nights; people could sleep comfortably in their homes without hearing noise and disturbances. There had been an increase in the number of people attending work at the hospital, for example; in fact, there had also been an increase in the number of people looking for work at the hospital. There were very positive indicators in relation to antisocial behaviour. There were also positive indicators in that students were attending school. The number of grandparents looking after children was not as high because parents were present and accepting that responsibility. They were the sort of positive things. Hon George Cash : This is in Fitzroy? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is in Fitzroy. Hon George Cash : How are things going in Broome and Derby? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Let me get onto that. One adverse impact was that some people had moved from the Fitzroy Valley. Hon George Cash : How many people do you think is “some”? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is an interesting question and when I put it to people in the community, they could not quantify how many people this concerned. Apart from anything else, there is some movement of people, irrespective of what goes on - restrictions or no restrictions - at certain times of the year. The other issue complicating the movement of people is the fact that the community development employment program, which is funded by the commonwealth, for example, has been reduced or closed in some of the communities. Therefore, there is a view that some people may well have moved in search of employment opportunities or, indeed, other opportunities. Certainly, there has been some movement; it is difficult to quantify. I know that there is some unhappiness among some of the businesses in and around Broome and Derby because there has been an increase in the number of people moving from the Fitzroy Valley into those bigger centres. However, I cannot quantify exact numbers. Any action in dealing with this very, very complex issue has some level of reaction, so we need to accept that that is a fact.
(4) Has there been an increase in unlawful drinking in these towns as a consequence of the ban, leading to community complaints? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: It is a very good question and I thank the member for the question. (1)-(4) Firstly, the practical effects are both positive and negative. I visited the area a couple of weeks ago, and met with approximately 70 members of the Fitzroy Crossing community and surrounding communities together with the publican, business representatives in that community and a hospital administrator, and I have to say that some of the indicators reported were indeed very, very positive. Certainly, the hospital reported to us that the number of incidents that result from harm related to drinking, such as physical assaults etc, was considerably reduced. There had been very peaceful nights; people could sleep comfortably in their homes without hearing noise and disturbances. There had been an increase in the number of people attending work at the hospital, for example; in fact, there had also been an increase in the number of people looking for work at the hospital. There were very positive indicators in relation to antisocial behaviour. There were also positive indicators in that students were attending school. The number of grandparents looking after children was not as high because parents were present and accepting that responsibility. They were the sort of positive things. Hon George Cash : This is in Fitzroy? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is in Fitzroy. Hon George Cash : How are things going in Broome and Derby? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Let me get onto that. One adverse impact was that some people had moved from the Fitzroy Valley. Hon George Cash : How many people do you think is “some”? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is an interesting question and when I put it to people in the community, they could not quantify how many people this concerned. Apart from anything else, there is some movement of people, irrespective of what goes on - restrictions or no restrictions - at certain times of the year. The other issue complicating the movement of people is the fact that the community development employment program, which is funded by the commonwealth, for example, has been reduced or closed in some of the communities. Therefore, there is a view that some people may well have moved in search of employment opportunities or, indeed, other opportunities. Certainly, there has been some movement; it is difficult to quantify. I know that there is some unhappiness among some of the businesses in and around Broome and Derby because there has been an increase in the number of people moving from the Fitzroy Valley into those bigger centres. However, I cannot quantify exact numbers. Any action in dealing with this very, very complex issue has some level of reaction, so we need to accept that that is a fact.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: It is a very good question and I thank the member for the question. (1)-(4) Firstly, the practical effects are both positive and negative. I visited the area a couple of weeks ago, and met with approximately 70 members of the Fitzroy Crossing community and surrounding communities together with the publican, business representatives in that community and a hospital administrator, and I have to say that some of the indicators reported were indeed very, very positive. Certainly, the hospital reported to us that the number of incidents that result from harm related to drinking, such as physical assaults etc, was considerably reduced. There had been very peaceful nights; people could sleep comfortably in their homes without hearing noise and disturbances. There had been an increase in the number of people attending work at the hospital, for example; in fact, there had also been an increase in the number of people looking for work at the hospital. There were very positive indicators in relation to antisocial behaviour. There were also positive indicators in that students were attending school. The number of grandparents looking after children was not as high because parents were present and accepting that responsibility. They were the sort of positive things. Hon George Cash : This is in Fitzroy? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is in Fitzroy. Hon George Cash : How are things going in Broome and Derby? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Let me get onto that. One adverse impact was that some people had moved from the Fitzroy Valley. Hon George Cash : How many people do you think is “some”? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is an interesting question and when I put it to people in the community, they could not quantify how many people this concerned. Apart from anything else, there is some movement of people, irrespective of what goes on - restrictions or no restrictions - at certain times of the year. The other issue complicating the movement of people is the fact that the community development employment program, which is funded by the commonwealth, for example, has been reduced or closed in some of the communities. Therefore, there is a view that some people may well have moved in search of employment opportunities or, indeed, other opportunities. Certainly, there has been some movement; it is difficult to quantify. I know that there is some unhappiness among some of the businesses in and around Broome and Derby because there has been an increase in the number of people moving from the Fitzroy Valley into those bigger centres. However, I cannot quantify exact numbers. Any action in dealing with this very, very complex issue has some level of reaction, so we need to accept that that is a fact.
It is a very good question and I thank the member for the question. (1)-(4) Firstly, the practical effects are both positive and negative. I visited the area a couple of weeks ago, and met with approximately 70 members of the Fitzroy Crossing community and surrounding communities together with the publican, business representatives in that community and a hospital administrator, and I have to say that some of the indicators reported were indeed very, very positive. Certainly, the hospital reported to us that the number of incidents that result from harm related to drinking, such as physical assaults etc, was considerably reduced. There had been very peaceful nights; people could sleep comfortably in their homes without hearing noise and disturbances. There had been an increase in the number of people attending work at the hospital, for example; in fact, there had also been an increase in the number of people looking for work at the hospital. There were very positive indicators in relation to antisocial behaviour. There were also positive indicators in that students were attending school. The number of grandparents looking after children was not as high because parents were present and accepting that responsibility. They were the sort of positive things. Hon George Cash : This is in Fitzroy? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is in Fitzroy. Hon George Cash : How are things going in Broome and Derby? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Let me get onto that. One adverse impact was that some people had moved from the Fitzroy Valley. Hon George Cash : How many people do you think is “some”? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is an interesting question and when I put it to people in the community, they could not quantify how many people this concerned. Apart from anything else, there is some movement of people, irrespective of what goes on - restrictions or no restrictions - at certain times of the year. The other issue complicating the movement of people is the fact that the community development employment program, which is funded by the commonwealth, for example, has been reduced or closed in some of the communities. Therefore, there is a view that some people may well have moved in search of employment opportunities or, indeed, other opportunities. Certainly, there has been some movement; it is difficult to quantify. I know that there is some unhappiness among some of the businesses in and around Broome and Derby because there has been an increase in the number of people moving from the Fitzroy Valley into those bigger centres. However, I cannot quantify exact numbers. Any action in dealing with this very, very complex issue has some level of reaction, so we need to accept that that is a fact.
(1)-(4) Firstly, the practical effects are both positive and negative. I visited the area a couple of weeks ago, and met with approximately 70 members of the Fitzroy Crossing community and surrounding communities together with the publican, business representatives in that community and a hospital administrator, and I have to say that some of the indicators reported were indeed very, very positive. Certainly, the hospital reported to us that the number of incidents that result from harm related to drinking, such as physical assaults etc, was considerably reduced. There had been very peaceful nights; people could sleep comfortably in their homes without hearing noise and disturbances. There had been an increase in the number of people attending work at the hospital, for example; in fact, there had also been an increase in the number of people looking for work at the hospital. There were very positive indicators in relation to antisocial behaviour. There were also positive indicators in that students were attending school. The number of grandparents looking after children was not as high because parents were present and accepting that responsibility. They were the sort of positive things. Hon George Cash : This is in Fitzroy? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is in Fitzroy. Hon George Cash : How are things going in Broome and Derby? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Let me get onto that. One adverse impact was that some people had moved from the Fitzroy Valley. Hon George Cash : How many people do you think is “some”? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is an interesting question and when I put it to people in the community, they could not quantify how many people this concerned. Apart from anything else, there is some movement of people, irrespective of what goes on - restrictions or no restrictions - at certain times of the year. The other issue complicating the movement of people is the fact that the community development employment program, which is funded by the commonwealth, for example, has been reduced or closed in some of the communities. Therefore, there is a view that some people may well have moved in search of employment opportunities or, indeed, other opportunities. Certainly, there has been some movement; it is difficult to quantify. I know that there is some unhappiness among some of the businesses in and around Broome and Derby because there has been an increase in the number of people moving from the Fitzroy Valley into those bigger centres. However, I cannot quantify exact numbers. Any action in dealing with this very, very complex issue has some level of reaction, so we need to accept that that is a fact.
Hon George Cash : This is in Fitzroy? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is in Fitzroy. Hon George Cash : How are things going in Broome and Derby? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Let me get onto that. One adverse impact was that some people had moved from the Fitzroy Valley. Hon George Cash : How many people do you think is “some”? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is an interesting question and when I put it to people in the community, they could not quantify how many people this concerned. Apart from anything else, there is some movement of people, irrespective of what goes on - restrictions or no restrictions - at certain times of the year. The other issue complicating the movement of people is the fact that the community development employment program, which is funded by the commonwealth, for example, has been reduced or closed in some of the communities. Therefore, there is a view that some people may well have moved in search of employment opportunities or, indeed, other opportunities. Certainly, there has been some movement; it is difficult to quantify. I know that there is some unhappiness among some of the businesses in and around Broome and Derby because there has been an increase in the number of people moving from the Fitzroy Valley into those bigger centres. However, I cannot quantify exact numbers. Any action in dealing with this very, very complex issue has some level of reaction, so we need to accept that that is a fact.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is in Fitzroy. Hon George Cash : How are things going in Broome and Derby? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Let me get onto that. One adverse impact was that some people had moved from the Fitzroy Valley. Hon George Cash : How many people do you think is “some”? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is an interesting question and when I put it to people in the community, they could not quantify how many people this concerned. Apart from anything else, there is some movement of people, irrespective of what goes on - restrictions or no restrictions - at certain times of the year. The other issue complicating the movement of people is the fact that the community development employment program, which is funded by the commonwealth, for example, has been reduced or closed in some of the communities. Therefore, there is a view that some people may well have moved in search of employment opportunities or, indeed, other opportunities. Certainly, there has been some movement; it is difficult to quantify. I know that there is some unhappiness among some of the businesses in and around Broome and Derby because there has been an increase in the number of people moving from the Fitzroy Valley into those bigger centres. However, I cannot quantify exact numbers. Any action in dealing with this very, very complex issue has some level of reaction, so we need to accept that that is a fact.
Hon George Cash : How are things going in Broome and Derby? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Let me get onto that. One adverse impact was that some people had moved from the Fitzroy Valley. Hon George Cash : How many people do you think is “some”? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is an interesting question and when I put it to people in the community, they could not quantify how many people this concerned. Apart from anything else, there is some movement of people, irrespective of what goes on - restrictions or no restrictions - at certain times of the year. The other issue complicating the movement of people is the fact that the community development employment program, which is funded by the commonwealth, for example, has been reduced or closed in some of the communities. Therefore, there is a view that some people may well have moved in search of employment opportunities or, indeed, other opportunities. Certainly, there has been some movement; it is difficult to quantify. I know that there is some unhappiness among some of the businesses in and around Broome and Derby because there has been an increase in the number of people moving from the Fitzroy Valley into those bigger centres. However, I cannot quantify exact numbers. Any action in dealing with this very, very complex issue has some level of reaction, so we need to accept that that is a fact.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Let me get onto that. One adverse impact was that some people had moved from the Fitzroy Valley. Hon George Cash : How many people do you think is “some”? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is an interesting question and when I put it to people in the community, they could not quantify how many people this concerned. Apart from anything else, there is some movement of people, irrespective of what goes on - restrictions or no restrictions - at certain times of the year. The other issue complicating the movement of people is the fact that the community development employment program, which is funded by the commonwealth, for example, has been reduced or closed in some of the communities. Therefore, there is a view that some people may well have moved in search of employment opportunities or, indeed, other opportunities. Certainly, there has been some movement; it is difficult to quantify. I know that there is some unhappiness among some of the businesses in and around Broome and Derby because there has been an increase in the number of people moving from the Fitzroy Valley into those bigger centres. However, I cannot quantify exact numbers. Any action in dealing with this very, very complex issue has some level of reaction, so we need to accept that that is a fact.
Hon George Cash : How many people do you think is “some”? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is an interesting question and when I put it to people in the community, they could not quantify how many people this concerned. Apart from anything else, there is some movement of people, irrespective of what goes on - restrictions or no restrictions - at certain times of the year. The other issue complicating the movement of people is the fact that the community development employment program, which is funded by the commonwealth, for example, has been reduced or closed in some of the communities. Therefore, there is a view that some people may well have moved in search of employment opportunities or, indeed, other opportunities. Certainly, there has been some movement; it is difficult to quantify. I know that there is some unhappiness among some of the businesses in and around Broome and Derby because there has been an increase in the number of people moving from the Fitzroy Valley into those bigger centres. However, I cannot quantify exact numbers. Any action in dealing with this very, very complex issue has some level of reaction, so we need to accept that that is a fact.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is an interesting question and when I put it to people in the community, they could not quantify how many people this concerned. Apart from anything else, there is some movement of people, irrespective of what goes on - restrictions or no restrictions - at certain times of the year. The other issue complicating the movement of people is the fact that the community development employment program, which is funded by the commonwealth, for example, has been reduced or closed in some of the communities. Therefore, there is a view that some people may well have moved in search of employment opportunities or, indeed, other opportunities. Certainly, there has been some movement; it is difficult to quantify. I know that there is some unhappiness among some of the businesses in and around Broome and Derby because there has been an increase in the number of people moving from the Fitzroy Valley into those bigger centres. However, I cannot quantify exact numbers. Any action in dealing with this very, very complex issue has some level of reaction, so we need to accept that that is a fact.
I know that there is some unhappiness among some of the businesses in and around Broome and Derby because there has been an increase in the number of people moving from the Fitzroy Valley into those bigger centres. However, I cannot quantify exact numbers. Any action in dealing with this very, very complex issue has some level of reaction, so we need to accept that that is a fact.
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