❓ Mr. McGrath questions the Premier about ministers undermining road safety messages due to driving offences. The Premier deflects by questioning Mr. McGrath's own speeding history and highlights the government's road safety achievements.
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ROAD SAFETY - MINISTERS’ ACTIONS
Road safety is an important issue for all Western Australians and each year the government spends millions of dollars to encourage responsible driving in the community. The fact that a government minister was found to be driving without a licence for two months for failing to pay speeding fines reflects a serious breach of trust and responsibility. Given that this is the second time that Labor ministers responsible for road safety have seriously breached the laws they administer, will the Premier concede that the actions of his ministers have seriously undermined the road safety message? Mr A.J. CARPENTER
Road safety is an important issue for all Western Australians and each year the government spends millions of dollars to encourage responsible driving in the community. The fact that a government minister was found to be driving without a licence for two months for failing to pay speeding fines reflects a serious breach of trust and responsibility. Given that this is the second time that Labor ministers responsible for road safety have seriously breached the laws they administer, will the Premier concede that the actions of his ministers have seriously undermined the road safety message? Mr A.J. CARPENTER
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I thank the member for some notice of this question. It is good to get a question from the member for South Perth because we do not get that many and he is an interesting character. I used to like what he wrote. For those members who have forgotten, he used to write up the football, and I read it. He is a bit of a man of the world, I think. Therefore, I ask the member for South Perth to tell us openly and honestly how many speeding fines he has had in the past five years. Mr J.E. McGrath : I have paid them all. I have never lost my licence. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : But how many has he had? Is that not his complaint about the previous minister? I am trying to answer the question. Mr C.J. Barnett : No you are not. You are asking them. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The amazing agility of the English language does not prevent a member from answering a question with a question. I am allowed to do that. Would it be fair for the member for South Perth to say that he does not know how many times he has been caught speeding in the past five years because there have been too many times? Mr .E. McGrath : If I commit a speeding offence, I pay the fine. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for South Perth asked me a question and I answered with a question that the member cannot answer. He cannot tell us. In answer to the question, I do not believe - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I know the interjections across the table are very interesting to those making them, but they are not to me. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Look at the slippery slope we go down. I answered the previous question in terms of outcomes. It is about outcomes - we are in government to do things that produce better outcomes for the community. Last year in Western Australia 163 people were killed tragically on the roads. We can do better than that. That is 163 people too many. However, under this government’s road safety policy agenda, that was the lowest road toll since records began to be kept in 1961. It is about outcomes.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: I thank the member for some notice of this question. It is good to get a question from the member for South Perth because we do not get that many and he is an interesting character. I used to like what he wrote. For those members who have forgotten, he used to write up the football, and I read it. He is a bit of a man of the world, I think. Therefore, I ask the member for South Perth to tell us openly and honestly how many speeding fines he has had in the past five years. Mr J.E. McGrath : I have paid them all. I have never lost my licence. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : But how many has he had? Is that not his complaint about the previous minister? I am trying to answer the question. Mr C.J. Barnett : No you are not. You are asking them. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The amazing agility of the English language does not prevent a member from answering a question with a question. I am allowed to do that. Would it be fair for the member for South Perth to say that he does not know how many times he has been caught speeding in the past five years because there have been too many times? Mr .E. McGrath : If I commit a speeding offence, I pay the fine. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for South Perth asked me a question and I answered with a question that the member cannot answer. He cannot tell us. In answer to the question, I do not believe - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I know the interjections across the table are very interesting to those making them, but they are not to me. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Look at the slippery slope we go down. I answered the previous question in terms of outcomes. It is about outcomes - we are in government to do things that produce better outcomes for the community. Last year in Western Australia 163 people were killed tragically on the roads. We can do better than that. That is 163 people too many. However, under this government’s road safety policy agenda, that was the lowest road toll since records began to be kept in 1961. It is about outcomes.
I thank the member for some notice of this question. It is good to get a question from the member for South Perth because we do not get that many and he is an interesting character. I used to like what he wrote. For those members who have forgotten, he used to write up the football, and I read it. He is a bit of a man of the world, I think. Therefore, I ask the member for South Perth to tell us openly and honestly how many speeding fines he has had in the past five years. Mr J.E. McGrath : I have paid them all. I have never lost my licence. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : But how many has he had? Is that not his complaint about the previous minister? I am trying to answer the question. Mr C.J. Barnett : No you are not. You are asking them. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The amazing agility of the English language does not prevent a member from answering a question with a question. I am allowed to do that. Would it be fair for the member for South Perth to say that he does not know how many times he has been caught speeding in the past five years because there have been too many times? Mr .E. McGrath : If I commit a speeding offence, I pay the fine. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for South Perth asked me a question and I answered with a question that the member cannot answer. He cannot tell us. In answer to the question, I do not believe - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I know the interjections across the table are very interesting to those making them, but they are not to me. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Look at the slippery slope we go down. I answered the previous question in terms of outcomes. It is about outcomes - we are in government to do things that produce better outcomes for the community. Last year in Western Australia 163 people were killed tragically on the roads. We can do better than that. That is 163 people too many. However, under this government’s road safety policy agenda, that was the lowest road toll since records began to be kept in 1961. It is about outcomes.
Mr J.E. McGrath : I have paid them all. I have never lost my licence. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : But how many has he had? Is that not his complaint about the previous minister? I am trying to answer the question. Mr C.J. Barnett : No you are not. You are asking them. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The amazing agility of the English language does not prevent a member from answering a question with a question. I am allowed to do that. Would it be fair for the member for South Perth to say that he does not know how many times he has been caught speeding in the past five years because there have been too many times? Mr .E. McGrath : If I commit a speeding offence, I pay the fine. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for South Perth asked me a question and I answered with a question that the member cannot answer. He cannot tell us. In answer to the question, I do not believe - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I know the interjections across the table are very interesting to those making them, but they are not to me. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Look at the slippery slope we go down. I answered the previous question in terms of outcomes. It is about outcomes - we are in government to do things that produce better outcomes for the community. Last year in Western Australia 163 people were killed tragically on the roads. We can do better than that. That is 163 people too many. However, under this government’s road safety policy agenda, that was the lowest road toll since records began to be kept in 1961. It is about outcomes.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : But how many has he had? Is that not his complaint about the previous minister? I am trying to answer the question. Mr C.J. Barnett : No you are not. You are asking them. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The amazing agility of the English language does not prevent a member from answering a question with a question. I am allowed to do that. Would it be fair for the member for South Perth to say that he does not know how many times he has been caught speeding in the past five years because there have been too many times? Mr .E. McGrath : If I commit a speeding offence, I pay the fine. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for South Perth asked me a question and I answered with a question that the member cannot answer. He cannot tell us. In answer to the question, I do not believe - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I know the interjections across the table are very interesting to those making them, but they are not to me. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Look at the slippery slope we go down. I answered the previous question in terms of outcomes. It is about outcomes - we are in government to do things that produce better outcomes for the community. Last year in Western Australia 163 people were killed tragically on the roads. We can do better than that. That is 163 people too many. However, under this government’s road safety policy agenda, that was the lowest road toll since records began to be kept in 1961. It is about outcomes.
Mr C.J. Barnett : No you are not. You are asking them. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The amazing agility of the English language does not prevent a member from answering a question with a question. I am allowed to do that. Would it be fair for the member for South Perth to say that he does not know how many times he has been caught speeding in the past five years because there have been too many times? Mr .E. McGrath : If I commit a speeding offence, I pay the fine. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for South Perth asked me a question and I answered with a question that the member cannot answer. He cannot tell us. In answer to the question, I do not believe - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I know the interjections across the table are very interesting to those making them, but they are not to me. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Look at the slippery slope we go down. I answered the previous question in terms of outcomes. It is about outcomes - we are in government to do things that produce better outcomes for the community. Last year in Western Australia 163 people were killed tragically on the roads. We can do better than that. That is 163 people too many. However, under this government’s road safety policy agenda, that was the lowest road toll since records began to be kept in 1961. It is about outcomes.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The amazing agility of the English language does not prevent a member from answering a question with a question. I am allowed to do that. Would it be fair for the member for South Perth to say that he does not know how many times he has been caught speeding in the past five years because there have been too many times? Mr .E. McGrath : If I commit a speeding offence, I pay the fine. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for South Perth asked me a question and I answered with a question that the member cannot answer. He cannot tell us. In answer to the question, I do not believe - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I know the interjections across the table are very interesting to those making them, but they are not to me. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Look at the slippery slope we go down. I answered the previous question in terms of outcomes. It is about outcomes - we are in government to do things that produce better outcomes for the community. Last year in Western Australia 163 people were killed tragically on the roads. We can do better than that. That is 163 people too many. However, under this government’s road safety policy agenda, that was the lowest road toll since records began to be kept in 1961. It is about outcomes.
Mr .E. McGrath : If I commit a speeding offence, I pay the fine. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for South Perth asked me a question and I answered with a question that the member cannot answer. He cannot tell us. In answer to the question, I do not believe - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I know the interjections across the table are very interesting to those making them, but they are not to me. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Look at the slippery slope we go down. I answered the previous question in terms of outcomes. It is about outcomes - we are in government to do things that produce better outcomes for the community. Last year in Western Australia 163 people were killed tragically on the roads. We can do better than that. That is 163 people too many. However, under this government’s road safety policy agenda, that was the lowest road toll since records began to be kept in 1961. It is about outcomes.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for South Perth asked me a question and I answered with a question that the member cannot answer. He cannot tell us. In answer to the question, I do not believe - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I know the interjections across the table are very interesting to those making them, but they are not to me. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Look at the slippery slope we go down. I answered the previous question in terms of outcomes. It is about outcomes - we are in government to do things that produce better outcomes for the community. Last year in Western Australia 163 people were killed tragically on the roads. We can do better than that. That is 163 people too many. However, under this government’s road safety policy agenda, that was the lowest road toll since records began to be kept in 1961. It is about outcomes.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I know the interjections across the table are very interesting to those making them, but they are not to me. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Look at the slippery slope we go down. I answered the previous question in terms of outcomes. It is about outcomes - we are in government to do things that produce better outcomes for the community. Last year in Western Australia 163 people were killed tragically on the roads. We can do better than that. That is 163 people too many. However, under this government’s road safety policy agenda, that was the lowest road toll since records began to be kept in 1961. It is about outcomes.
The SPEAKER : Order! I know the interjections across the table are very interesting to those making them, but they are not to me. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Look at the slippery slope we go down. I answered the previous question in terms of outcomes. It is about outcomes - we are in government to do things that produce better outcomes for the community. Last year in Western Australia 163 people were killed tragically on the roads. We can do better than that. That is 163 people too many. However, under this government’s road safety policy agenda, that was the lowest road toll since records began to be kept in 1961. It is about outcomes.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Look at the slippery slope we go down. I answered the previous question in terms of outcomes. It is about outcomes - we are in government to do things that produce better outcomes for the community. Last year in Western Australia 163 people were killed tragically on the roads. We can do better than that. That is 163 people too many. However, under this government’s road safety policy agenda, that was the lowest road toll since records began to be kept in 1961. It is about outcomes.
Last year in Western Australia 163 people were killed tragically on the roads. We can do better than that. That is 163 people too many. However, under this government’s road safety policy agenda, that was the lowest road toll since records began to be kept in 1961. It is about outcomes.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: I thank the member for some notice of this question. It is good to get a question from the member for South Perth because we do not get that many and he is an interesting character. I used to like what he wrote. For those members who have forgotten, he used to write up the football, and I read it. He is a bit of a man of the world, I think. Therefore, I ask the member for South Perth to tell us openly and honestly how many speeding fines he has had in the past five years. Mr J.E. McGrath : I have paid them all. I have never lost my licence. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : But how many has he had? Is that not his complaint about the previous minister? I am trying to answer the question. Mr C.J. Barnett : No you are not. You are asking them. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The amazing agility of the English language does not prevent a member from answering a question with a question. I am allowed to do that. Would it be fair for the member for South Perth to say that he does not know how many times he has been caught speeding in the past five years because there have been too many times? Mr .E. McGrath : If I commit a speeding offence, I pay the fine. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for South Perth asked me a question and I answered with a question that the member cannot answer. He cannot tell us. In answer to the question, I do not believe - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I know the interjections across the table are very interesting to those making them, but they are not to me. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Look at the slippery slope we go down. I answered the previous question in terms of outcomes. It is about outcomes - we are in government to do things that produce better outcomes for the community. Last year in Western Australia 163 people were killed tragically on the roads. We can do better than that. That is 163 people too many. However, under this government’s road safety policy agenda, that was the lowest road toll since records began to be kept in 1961. It is about outcomes.
I thank the member for some notice of this question. It is good to get a question from the member for South Perth because we do not get that many and he is an interesting character. I used to like what he wrote. For those members who have forgotten, he used to write up the football, and I read it. He is a bit of a man of the world, I think. Therefore, I ask the member for South Perth to tell us openly and honestly how many speeding fines he has had in the past five years. Mr J.E. McGrath : I have paid them all. I have never lost my licence. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : But how many has he had? Is that not his complaint about the previous minister? I am trying to answer the question. Mr C.J. Barnett : No you are not. You are asking them. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The amazing agility of the English language does not prevent a member from answering a question with a question. I am allowed to do that. Would it be fair for the member for South Perth to say that he does not know how many times he has been caught speeding in the past five years because there have been too many times? Mr .E. McGrath : If I commit a speeding offence, I pay the fine. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for South Perth asked me a question and I answered with a question that the member cannot answer. He cannot tell us. In answer to the question, I do not believe - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I know the interjections across the table are very interesting to those making them, but they are not to me. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Look at the slippery slope we go down. I answered the previous question in terms of outcomes. It is about outcomes - we are in government to do things that produce better outcomes for the community. Last year in Western Australia 163 people were killed tragically on the roads. We can do better than that. That is 163 people too many. However, under this government’s road safety policy agenda, that was the lowest road toll since records began to be kept in 1961. It is about outcomes.
Mr J.E. McGrath : I have paid them all. I have never lost my licence. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : But how many has he had? Is that not his complaint about the previous minister? I am trying to answer the question. Mr C.J. Barnett : No you are not. You are asking them. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The amazing agility of the English language does not prevent a member from answering a question with a question. I am allowed to do that. Would it be fair for the member for South Perth to say that he does not know how many times he has been caught speeding in the past five years because there have been too many times? Mr .E. McGrath : If I commit a speeding offence, I pay the fine. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for South Perth asked me a question and I answered with a question that the member cannot answer. He cannot tell us. In answer to the question, I do not believe - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I know the interjections across the table are very interesting to those making them, but they are not to me. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Look at the slippery slope we go down. I answered the previous question in terms of outcomes. It is about outcomes - we are in government to do things that produce better outcomes for the community. Last year in Western Australia 163 people were killed tragically on the roads. We can do better than that. That is 163 people too many. However, under this government’s road safety policy agenda, that was the lowest road toll since records began to be kept in 1961. It is about outcomes.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : But how many has he had? Is that not his complaint about the previous minister? I am trying to answer the question. Mr C.J. Barnett : No you are not. You are asking them. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The amazing agility of the English language does not prevent a member from answering a question with a question. I am allowed to do that. Would it be fair for the member for South Perth to say that he does not know how many times he has been caught speeding in the past five years because there have been too many times? Mr .E. McGrath : If I commit a speeding offence, I pay the fine. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for South Perth asked me a question and I answered with a question that the member cannot answer. He cannot tell us. In answer to the question, I do not believe - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I know the interjections across the table are very interesting to those making them, but they are not to me. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Look at the slippery slope we go down. I answered the previous question in terms of outcomes. It is about outcomes - we are in government to do things that produce better outcomes for the community. Last year in Western Australia 163 people were killed tragically on the roads. We can do better than that. That is 163 people too many. However, under this government’s road safety policy agenda, that was the lowest road toll since records began to be kept in 1961. It is about outcomes.
Mr C.J. Barnett : No you are not. You are asking them. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The amazing agility of the English language does not prevent a member from answering a question with a question. I am allowed to do that. Would it be fair for the member for South Perth to say that he does not know how many times he has been caught speeding in the past five years because there have been too many times? Mr .E. McGrath : If I commit a speeding offence, I pay the fine. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for South Perth asked me a question and I answered with a question that the member cannot answer. He cannot tell us. In answer to the question, I do not believe - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I know the interjections across the table are very interesting to those making them, but they are not to me. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Look at the slippery slope we go down. I answered the previous question in terms of outcomes. It is about outcomes - we are in government to do things that produce better outcomes for the community. Last year in Western Australia 163 people were killed tragically on the roads. We can do better than that. That is 163 people too many. However, under this government’s road safety policy agenda, that was the lowest road toll since records began to be kept in 1961. It is about outcomes.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The amazing agility of the English language does not prevent a member from answering a question with a question. I am allowed to do that. Would it be fair for the member for South Perth to say that he does not know how many times he has been caught speeding in the past five years because there have been too many times? Mr .E. McGrath : If I commit a speeding offence, I pay the fine. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for South Perth asked me a question and I answered with a question that the member cannot answer. He cannot tell us. In answer to the question, I do not believe - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I know the interjections across the table are very interesting to those making them, but they are not to me. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Look at the slippery slope we go down. I answered the previous question in terms of outcomes. It is about outcomes - we are in government to do things that produce better outcomes for the community. Last year in Western Australia 163 people were killed tragically on the roads. We can do better than that. That is 163 people too many. However, under this government’s road safety policy agenda, that was the lowest road toll since records began to be kept in 1961. It is about outcomes.
Mr .E. McGrath : If I commit a speeding offence, I pay the fine. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for South Perth asked me a question and I answered with a question that the member cannot answer. He cannot tell us. In answer to the question, I do not believe - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I know the interjections across the table are very interesting to those making them, but they are not to me. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Look at the slippery slope we go down. I answered the previous question in terms of outcomes. It is about outcomes - we are in government to do things that produce better outcomes for the community. Last year in Western Australia 163 people were killed tragically on the roads. We can do better than that. That is 163 people too many. However, under this government’s road safety policy agenda, that was the lowest road toll since records began to be kept in 1961. It is about outcomes.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member for South Perth asked me a question and I answered with a question that the member cannot answer. He cannot tell us. In answer to the question, I do not believe - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I know the interjections across the table are very interesting to those making them, but they are not to me. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Look at the slippery slope we go down. I answered the previous question in terms of outcomes. It is about outcomes - we are in government to do things that produce better outcomes for the community. Last year in Western Australia 163 people were killed tragically on the roads. We can do better than that. That is 163 people too many. However, under this government’s road safety policy agenda, that was the lowest road toll since records began to be kept in 1961. It is about outcomes.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I know the interjections across the table are very interesting to those making them, but they are not to me. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Look at the slippery slope we go down. I answered the previous question in terms of outcomes. It is about outcomes - we are in government to do things that produce better outcomes for the community. Last year in Western Australia 163 people were killed tragically on the roads. We can do better than that. That is 163 people too many. However, under this government’s road safety policy agenda, that was the lowest road toll since records began to be kept in 1961. It is about outcomes.
The SPEAKER : Order! I know the interjections across the table are very interesting to those making them, but they are not to me. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Look at the slippery slope we go down. I answered the previous question in terms of outcomes. It is about outcomes - we are in government to do things that produce better outcomes for the community. Last year in Western Australia 163 people were killed tragically on the roads. We can do better than that. That is 163 people too many. However, under this government’s road safety policy agenda, that was the lowest road toll since records began to be kept in 1961. It is about outcomes.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Look at the slippery slope we go down. I answered the previous question in terms of outcomes. It is about outcomes - we are in government to do things that produce better outcomes for the community. Last year in Western Australia 163 people were killed tragically on the roads. We can do better than that. That is 163 people too many. However, under this government’s road safety policy agenda, that was the lowest road toll since records began to be kept in 1961. It is about outcomes.
Last year in Western Australia 163 people were killed tragically on the roads. We can do better than that. That is 163 people too many. However, under this government’s road safety policy agenda, that was the lowest road toll since records began to be kept in 1961. It is about outcomes.
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