❓ Hon Peter Foss questions Hon Kim Chance regarding the timeline for announcing total jarrah and karri allocations and the subsequent distribution process. Chance provides a tentative timeframe dependent on union negotiations and Sotico Pty Ltd's offer, highlighting the complexity and the need for equitable distribution.
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The minister indicated that he would shortly be able to give the total allocations for jarrah and karri. (1) Is the minister able to be more firm now on what “shortly” means? (2) The minister said that the distribution of allocations between particular people will be a longer process. Can the minister give some indication of how much longer it will be? Hon KIM CHANCE
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(1) No, although I did indicate in answer to a similar question the other day that I was hopeful that an announcement would be made by or before Friday of next week but that it was dependent on the process of negotiations. I refer, in particular, to the process of negotiations with the two unions concerned, the Construction, Mining, Forestry and Energy Union and the Australian Workers Union. (2) The manner of allocation will not necessarily be decided by government. The private sector will play a part in those decisions because the allocation will depend on the uptake of the business exit provision. Hon Peter Foss: It is also dependent on the method you decide upon. They will not know that until you tell them. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed it is. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! We are not at the committee stage yet! Hon KIM CHANCE: Thank you, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss was only trying to help me understand the genre of the question, and I appreciate his assistance. I think I touched on this aspect yesterday: the final allocation will depend on the decisions the Government makes on the offer it is about to receive, as I understand it, from Sotico Pty Ltd. The volume that Sotico seeks in its proposition, and which will or will not be agreed to by government, will be a key determinant in how much volume is available for allocation within the rest of the industry. An important aspect of this matter, and particularly when considering the Sotico offer when the detail is available, is equity between the people who are currently contracting and those who are in effect left outside the loop. It would be unfair - I agree with the implication of the member’s question - if the proportion of the available resource allocated to Sotico was such as to cause insufficient resource to be available for the rest of the players. Hon Peter Foss: And vice versa. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed. Not all players, I might add, are necessarily small mills. Some middle range to quite large mills, such as Collie’s, are as yet uncontracted and we have no firm negotiations with them. It is a balancing act, which makes it extremely difficult for me to give a precise answer to the question. All I can say at this stage is that the Government is progressing that issue with as much dispatch as it can. We understand how important it is, because this is part of the certainty for which that industry has been looking for some time. If the member or anyone else wants to get a guide, for example, to what those timber volumes might be, it will be a relatively easy matter to determine what par for the course is, if one likes, if the announced volumes, which we hope we will hear by at least next Friday, are divided by the currently contracted volumes. That will establish a percentage of the currently contracted volumes that are available across the industry. Although that will not necessarily be a guide to what everybody will be offered, at least a par-for-the-course figure will be established, and one would know, for example, from that number how to make a judgment whether, in Sotico Pty Ltd’s case or any other, the offer that had been negotiated between the proponent and the Government was above or below the median line.
(1) Is the minister able to be more firm now on what “shortly” means? (2) The minister said that the distribution of allocations between particular people will be a longer process. Can the minister give some indication of how much longer it will be? Hon KIM CHANCE replied: (1) No, although I did indicate in answer to a similar question the other day that I was hopeful that an announcement would be made by or before Friday of next week but that it was dependent on the process of negotiations. I refer, in particular, to the process of negotiations with the two unions concerned, the Construction, Mining, Forestry and Energy Union and the Australian Workers Union. (2) The manner of allocation will not necessarily be decided by government. The private sector will play a part in those decisions because the allocation will depend on the uptake of the business exit provision. Hon Peter Foss: It is also dependent on the method you decide upon. They will not know that until you tell them. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed it is. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! We are not at the committee stage yet! Hon KIM CHANCE: Thank you, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss was only trying to help me understand the genre of the question, and I appreciate his assistance. I think I touched on this aspect yesterday: the final allocation will depend on the decisions the Government makes on the offer it is about to receive, as I understand it, from Sotico Pty Ltd. The volume that Sotico seeks in its proposition, and which will or will not be agreed to by government, will be a key determinant in how much volume is available for allocation within the rest of the industry. An important aspect of this matter, and particularly when considering the Sotico offer when the detail is available, is equity between the people who are currently contracting and those who are in effect left outside the loop. It would be unfair - I agree with the implication of the member’s question - if the proportion of the available resource allocated to Sotico was such as to cause insufficient resource to be available for the rest of the players. Hon Peter Foss: And vice versa. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed. Not all players, I might add, are necessarily small mills. Some middle range to quite large mills, such as Collie’s, are as yet uncontracted and we have no firm negotiations with them. It is a balancing act, which makes it extremely difficult for me to give a precise answer to the question. All I can say at this stage is that the Government is progressing that issue with as much dispatch as it can. We understand how important it is, because this is part of the certainty for which that industry has been looking for some time. If the member or anyone else wants to get a guide, for example, to what those timber volumes might be, it will be a relatively easy matter to determine what par for the course is, if one likes, if the announced volumes, which we hope we will hear by at least next Friday, are divided by the currently contracted volumes. That will establish a percentage of the currently contracted volumes that are available across the industry. Although that will not necessarily be a guide to what everybody will be offered, at least a par-for-the-course figure will be established, and one would know, for example, from that number how to make a judgment whether, in Sotico Pty Ltd’s case or any other, the offer that had been negotiated between the proponent and the Government was above or below the median line.
(2) The minister said that the distribution of allocations between particular people will be a longer process. Can the minister give some indication of how much longer it will be? Hon KIM CHANCE replied: (1) No, although I did indicate in answer to a similar question the other day that I was hopeful that an announcement would be made by or before Friday of next week but that it was dependent on the process of negotiations. I refer, in particular, to the process of negotiations with the two unions concerned, the Construction, Mining, Forestry and Energy Union and the Australian Workers Union. (2) The manner of allocation will not necessarily be decided by government. The private sector will play a part in those decisions because the allocation will depend on the uptake of the business exit provision. Hon Peter Foss: It is also dependent on the method you decide upon. They will not know that until you tell them. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed it is. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! We are not at the committee stage yet! Hon KIM CHANCE: Thank you, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss was only trying to help me understand the genre of the question, and I appreciate his assistance. I think I touched on this aspect yesterday: the final allocation will depend on the decisions the Government makes on the offer it is about to receive, as I understand it, from Sotico Pty Ltd. The volume that Sotico seeks in its proposition, and which will or will not be agreed to by government, will be a key determinant in how much volume is available for allocation within the rest of the industry. An important aspect of this matter, and particularly when considering the Sotico offer when the detail is available, is equity between the people who are currently contracting and those who are in effect left outside the loop. It would be unfair - I agree with the implication of the member’s question - if the proportion of the available resource allocated to Sotico was such as to cause insufficient resource to be available for the rest of the players. Hon Peter Foss: And vice versa. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed. Not all players, I might add, are necessarily small mills. Some middle range to quite large mills, such as Collie’s, are as yet uncontracted and we have no firm negotiations with them. It is a balancing act, which makes it extremely difficult for me to give a precise answer to the question. All I can say at this stage is that the Government is progressing that issue with as much dispatch as it can. We understand how important it is, because this is part of the certainty for which that industry has been looking for some time. If the member or anyone else wants to get a guide, for example, to what those timber volumes might be, it will be a relatively easy matter to determine what par for the course is, if one likes, if the announced volumes, which we hope we will hear by at least next Friday, are divided by the currently contracted volumes. That will establish a percentage of the currently contracted volumes that are available across the industry. Although that will not necessarily be a guide to what everybody will be offered, at least a par-for-the-course figure will be established, and one would know, for example, from that number how to make a judgment whether, in Sotico Pty Ltd’s case or any other, the offer that had been negotiated between the proponent and the Government was above or below the median line.
Hon KIM CHANCE replied: (1) No, although I did indicate in answer to a similar question the other day that I was hopeful that an announcement would be made by or before Friday of next week but that it was dependent on the process of negotiations. I refer, in particular, to the process of negotiations with the two unions concerned, the Construction, Mining, Forestry and Energy Union and the Australian Workers Union. (2) The manner of allocation will not necessarily be decided by government. The private sector will play a part in those decisions because the allocation will depend on the uptake of the business exit provision. Hon Peter Foss: It is also dependent on the method you decide upon. They will not know that until you tell them. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed it is. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! We are not at the committee stage yet! Hon KIM CHANCE: Thank you, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss was only trying to help me understand the genre of the question, and I appreciate his assistance. I think I touched on this aspect yesterday: the final allocation will depend on the decisions the Government makes on the offer it is about to receive, as I understand it, from Sotico Pty Ltd. The volume that Sotico seeks in its proposition, and which will or will not be agreed to by government, will be a key determinant in how much volume is available for allocation within the rest of the industry. An important aspect of this matter, and particularly when considering the Sotico offer when the detail is available, is equity between the people who are currently contracting and those who are in effect left outside the loop. It would be unfair - I agree with the implication of the member’s question - if the proportion of the available resource allocated to Sotico was such as to cause insufficient resource to be available for the rest of the players. Hon Peter Foss: And vice versa. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed. Not all players, I might add, are necessarily small mills. Some middle range to quite large mills, such as Collie’s, are as yet uncontracted and we have no firm negotiations with them. It is a balancing act, which makes it extremely difficult for me to give a precise answer to the question. All I can say at this stage is that the Government is progressing that issue with as much dispatch as it can. We understand how important it is, because this is part of the certainty for which that industry has been looking for some time. If the member or anyone else wants to get a guide, for example, to what those timber volumes might be, it will be a relatively easy matter to determine what par for the course is, if one likes, if the announced volumes, which we hope we will hear by at least next Friday, are divided by the currently contracted volumes. That will establish a percentage of the currently contracted volumes that are available across the industry. Although that will not necessarily be a guide to what everybody will be offered, at least a par-for-the-course figure will be established, and one would know, for example, from that number how to make a judgment whether, in Sotico Pty Ltd’s case or any other, the offer that had been negotiated between the proponent and the Government was above or below the median line.
(1) No, although I did indicate in answer to a similar question the other day that I was hopeful that an announcement would be made by or before Friday of next week but that it was dependent on the process of negotiations. I refer, in particular, to the process of negotiations with the two unions concerned, the Construction, Mining, Forestry and Energy Union and the Australian Workers Union. (2) The manner of allocation will not necessarily be decided by government. The private sector will play a part in those decisions because the allocation will depend on the uptake of the business exit provision. Hon Peter Foss: It is also dependent on the method you decide upon. They will not know that until you tell them. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed it is. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! We are not at the committee stage yet! Hon KIM CHANCE: Thank you, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss was only trying to help me understand the genre of the question, and I appreciate his assistance. I think I touched on this aspect yesterday: the final allocation will depend on the decisions the Government makes on the offer it is about to receive, as I understand it, from Sotico Pty Ltd. The volume that Sotico seeks in its proposition, and which will or will not be agreed to by government, will be a key determinant in how much volume is available for allocation within the rest of the industry. An important aspect of this matter, and particularly when considering the Sotico offer when the detail is available, is equity between the people who are currently contracting and those who are in effect left outside the loop. It would be unfair - I agree with the implication of the member’s question - if the proportion of the available resource allocated to Sotico was such as to cause insufficient resource to be available for the rest of the players. Hon Peter Foss: And vice versa. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed. Not all players, I might add, are necessarily small mills. Some middle range to quite large mills, such as Collie’s, are as yet uncontracted and we have no firm negotiations with them. It is a balancing act, which makes it extremely difficult for me to give a precise answer to the question. All I can say at this stage is that the Government is progressing that issue with as much dispatch as it can. We understand how important it is, because this is part of the certainty for which that industry has been looking for some time. If the member or anyone else wants to get a guide, for example, to what those timber volumes might be, it will be a relatively easy matter to determine what par for the course is, if one likes, if the announced volumes, which we hope we will hear by at least next Friday, are divided by the currently contracted volumes. That will establish a percentage of the currently contracted volumes that are available across the industry. Although that will not necessarily be a guide to what everybody will be offered, at least a par-for-the-course figure will be established, and one would know, for example, from that number how to make a judgment whether, in Sotico Pty Ltd’s case or any other, the offer that had been negotiated between the proponent and the Government was above or below the median line.
(2) The manner of allocation will not necessarily be decided by government. The private sector will play a part in those decisions because the allocation will depend on the uptake of the business exit provision. Hon Peter Foss: It is also dependent on the method you decide upon. They will not know that until you tell them. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed it is. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! We are not at the committee stage yet! Hon KIM CHANCE: Thank you, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss was only trying to help me understand the genre of the question, and I appreciate his assistance. I think I touched on this aspect yesterday: the final allocation will depend on the decisions the Government makes on the offer it is about to receive, as I understand it, from Sotico Pty Ltd. The volume that Sotico seeks in its proposition, and which will or will not be agreed to by government, will be a key determinant in how much volume is available for allocation within the rest of the industry. An important aspect of this matter, and particularly when considering the Sotico offer when the detail is available, is equity between the people who are currently contracting and those who are in effect left outside the loop. It would be unfair - I agree with the implication of the member’s question - if the proportion of the available resource allocated to Sotico was such as to cause insufficient resource to be available for the rest of the players. Hon Peter Foss: And vice versa. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed. Not all players, I might add, are necessarily small mills. Some middle range to quite large mills, such as Collie’s, are as yet uncontracted and we have no firm negotiations with them. It is a balancing act, which makes it extremely difficult for me to give a precise answer to the question. All I can say at this stage is that the Government is progressing that issue with as much dispatch as it can. We understand how important it is, because this is part of the certainty for which that industry has been looking for some time. If the member or anyone else wants to get a guide, for example, to what those timber volumes might be, it will be a relatively easy matter to determine what par for the course is, if one likes, if the announced volumes, which we hope we will hear by at least next Friday, are divided by the currently contracted volumes. That will establish a percentage of the currently contracted volumes that are available across the industry. Although that will not necessarily be a guide to what everybody will be offered, at least a par-for-the-course figure will be established, and one would know, for example, from that number how to make a judgment whether, in Sotico Pty Ltd’s case or any other, the offer that had been negotiated between the proponent and the Government was above or below the median line.
Hon Peter Foss: It is also dependent on the method you decide upon. They will not know that until you tell them. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed it is. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! We are not at the committee stage yet! Hon KIM CHANCE: Thank you, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss was only trying to help me understand the genre of the question, and I appreciate his assistance. I think I touched on this aspect yesterday: the final allocation will depend on the decisions the Government makes on the offer it is about to receive, as I understand it, from Sotico Pty Ltd. The volume that Sotico seeks in its proposition, and which will or will not be agreed to by government, will be a key determinant in how much volume is available for allocation within the rest of the industry. An important aspect of this matter, and particularly when considering the Sotico offer when the detail is available, is equity between the people who are currently contracting and those who are in effect left outside the loop. It would be unfair - I agree with the implication of the member’s question - if the proportion of the available resource allocated to Sotico was such as to cause insufficient resource to be available for the rest of the players. Hon Peter Foss: And vice versa. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed. Not all players, I might add, are necessarily small mills. Some middle range to quite large mills, such as Collie’s, are as yet uncontracted and we have no firm negotiations with them. It is a balancing act, which makes it extremely difficult for me to give a precise answer to the question. All I can say at this stage is that the Government is progressing that issue with as much dispatch as it can. We understand how important it is, because this is part of the certainty for which that industry has been looking for some time. If the member or anyone else wants to get a guide, for example, to what those timber volumes might be, it will be a relatively easy matter to determine what par for the course is, if one likes, if the announced volumes, which we hope we will hear by at least next Friday, are divided by the currently contracted volumes. That will establish a percentage of the currently contracted volumes that are available across the industry. Although that will not necessarily be a guide to what everybody will be offered, at least a par-for-the-course figure will be established, and one would know, for example, from that number how to make a judgment whether, in Sotico Pty Ltd’s case or any other, the offer that had been negotiated between the proponent and the Government was above or below the median line.
Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed it is. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! We are not at the committee stage yet! Hon KIM CHANCE: Thank you, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss was only trying to help me understand the genre of the question, and I appreciate his assistance. I think I touched on this aspect yesterday: the final allocation will depend on the decisions the Government makes on the offer it is about to receive, as I understand it, from Sotico Pty Ltd. The volume that Sotico seeks in its proposition, and which will or will not be agreed to by government, will be a key determinant in how much volume is available for allocation within the rest of the industry. An important aspect of this matter, and particularly when considering the Sotico offer when the detail is available, is equity between the people who are currently contracting and those who are in effect left outside the loop. It would be unfair - I agree with the implication of the member’s question - if the proportion of the available resource allocated to Sotico was such as to cause insufficient resource to be available for the rest of the players. Hon Peter Foss: And vice versa. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed. Not all players, I might add, are necessarily small mills. Some middle range to quite large mills, such as Collie’s, are as yet uncontracted and we have no firm negotiations with them. It is a balancing act, which makes it extremely difficult for me to give a precise answer to the question. All I can say at this stage is that the Government is progressing that issue with as much dispatch as it can. We understand how important it is, because this is part of the certainty for which that industry has been looking for some time. If the member or anyone else wants to get a guide, for example, to what those timber volumes might be, it will be a relatively easy matter to determine what par for the course is, if one likes, if the announced volumes, which we hope we will hear by at least next Friday, are divided by the currently contracted volumes. That will establish a percentage of the currently contracted volumes that are available across the industry. Although that will not necessarily be a guide to what everybody will be offered, at least a par-for-the-course figure will be established, and one would know, for example, from that number how to make a judgment whether, in Sotico Pty Ltd’s case or any other, the offer that had been negotiated between the proponent and the Government was above or below the median line.
Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! We are not at the committee stage yet! Hon KIM CHANCE: Thank you, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss was only trying to help me understand the genre of the question, and I appreciate his assistance. I think I touched on this aspect yesterday: the final allocation will depend on the decisions the Government makes on the offer it is about to receive, as I understand it, from Sotico Pty Ltd. The volume that Sotico seeks in its proposition, and which will or will not be agreed to by government, will be a key determinant in how much volume is available for allocation within the rest of the industry. An important aspect of this matter, and particularly when considering the Sotico offer when the detail is available, is equity between the people who are currently contracting and those who are in effect left outside the loop. It would be unfair - I agree with the implication of the member’s question - if the proportion of the available resource allocated to Sotico was such as to cause insufficient resource to be available for the rest of the players. Hon Peter Foss: And vice versa. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed. Not all players, I might add, are necessarily small mills. Some middle range to quite large mills, such as Collie’s, are as yet uncontracted and we have no firm negotiations with them. It is a balancing act, which makes it extremely difficult for me to give a precise answer to the question. All I can say at this stage is that the Government is progressing that issue with as much dispatch as it can. We understand how important it is, because this is part of the certainty for which that industry has been looking for some time. If the member or anyone else wants to get a guide, for example, to what those timber volumes might be, it will be a relatively easy matter to determine what par for the course is, if one likes, if the announced volumes, which we hope we will hear by at least next Friday, are divided by the currently contracted volumes. That will establish a percentage of the currently contracted volumes that are available across the industry. Although that will not necessarily be a guide to what everybody will be offered, at least a par-for-the-course figure will be established, and one would know, for example, from that number how to make a judgment whether, in Sotico Pty Ltd’s case or any other, the offer that had been negotiated between the proponent and the Government was above or below the median line.
The PRESIDENT: Order! We are not at the committee stage yet! Hon KIM CHANCE: Thank you, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss was only trying to help me understand the genre of the question, and I appreciate his assistance. I think I touched on this aspect yesterday: the final allocation will depend on the decisions the Government makes on the offer it is about to receive, as I understand it, from Sotico Pty Ltd. The volume that Sotico seeks in its proposition, and which will or will not be agreed to by government, will be a key determinant in how much volume is available for allocation within the rest of the industry. An important aspect of this matter, and particularly when considering the Sotico offer when the detail is available, is equity between the people who are currently contracting and those who are in effect left outside the loop. It would be unfair - I agree with the implication of the member’s question - if the proportion of the available resource allocated to Sotico was such as to cause insufficient resource to be available for the rest of the players. Hon Peter Foss: And vice versa. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed. Not all players, I might add, are necessarily small mills. Some middle range to quite large mills, such as Collie’s, are as yet uncontracted and we have no firm negotiations with them. It is a balancing act, which makes it extremely difficult for me to give a precise answer to the question. All I can say at this stage is that the Government is progressing that issue with as much dispatch as it can. We understand how important it is, because this is part of the certainty for which that industry has been looking for some time. If the member or anyone else wants to get a guide, for example, to what those timber volumes might be, it will be a relatively easy matter to determine what par for the course is, if one likes, if the announced volumes, which we hope we will hear by at least next Friday, are divided by the currently contracted volumes. That will establish a percentage of the currently contracted volumes that are available across the industry. Although that will not necessarily be a guide to what everybody will be offered, at least a par-for-the-course figure will be established, and one would know, for example, from that number how to make a judgment whether, in Sotico Pty Ltd’s case or any other, the offer that had been negotiated between the proponent and the Government was above or below the median line.
Hon KIM CHANCE: Thank you, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss was only trying to help me understand the genre of the question, and I appreciate his assistance. I think I touched on this aspect yesterday: the final allocation will depend on the decisions the Government makes on the offer it is about to receive, as I understand it, from Sotico Pty Ltd. The volume that Sotico seeks in its proposition, and which will or will not be agreed to by government, will be a key determinant in how much volume is available for allocation within the rest of the industry. An important aspect of this matter, and particularly when considering the Sotico offer when the detail is available, is equity between the people who are currently contracting and those who are in effect left outside the loop. It would be unfair - I agree with the implication of the member’s question - if the proportion of the available resource allocated to Sotico was such as to cause insufficient resource to be available for the rest of the players. Hon Peter Foss: And vice versa. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed. Not all players, I might add, are necessarily small mills. Some middle range to quite large mills, such as Collie’s, are as yet uncontracted and we have no firm negotiations with them. It is a balancing act, which makes it extremely difficult for me to give a precise answer to the question. All I can say at this stage is that the Government is progressing that issue with as much dispatch as it can. We understand how important it is, because this is part of the certainty for which that industry has been looking for some time. If the member or anyone else wants to get a guide, for example, to what those timber volumes might be, it will be a relatively easy matter to determine what par for the course is, if one likes, if the announced volumes, which we hope we will hear by at least next Friday, are divided by the currently contracted volumes. That will establish a percentage of the currently contracted volumes that are available across the industry. Although that will not necessarily be a guide to what everybody will be offered, at least a par-for-the-course figure will be established, and one would know, for example, from that number how to make a judgment whether, in Sotico Pty Ltd’s case or any other, the offer that had been negotiated between the proponent and the Government was above or below the median line.
Hon Peter Foss: And vice versa. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed. Not all players, I might add, are necessarily small mills. Some middle range to quite large mills, such as Collie’s, are as yet uncontracted and we have no firm negotiations with them. It is a balancing act, which makes it extremely difficult for me to give a precise answer to the question. All I can say at this stage is that the Government is progressing that issue with as much dispatch as it can. We understand how important it is, because this is part of the certainty for which that industry has been looking for some time. If the member or anyone else wants to get a guide, for example, to what those timber volumes might be, it will be a relatively easy matter to determine what par for the course is, if one likes, if the announced volumes, which we hope we will hear by at least next Friday, are divided by the currently contracted volumes. That will establish a percentage of the currently contracted volumes that are available across the industry. Although that will not necessarily be a guide to what everybody will be offered, at least a par-for-the-course figure will be established, and one would know, for example, from that number how to make a judgment whether, in Sotico Pty Ltd’s case or any other, the offer that had been negotiated between the proponent and the Government was above or below the median line.
Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed. Not all players, I might add, are necessarily small mills. Some middle range to quite large mills, such as Collie’s, are as yet uncontracted and we have no firm negotiations with them. It is a balancing act, which makes it extremely difficult for me to give a precise answer to the question. All I can say at this stage is that the Government is progressing that issue with as much dispatch as it can. We understand how important it is, because this is part of the certainty for which that industry has been looking for some time. If the member or anyone else wants to get a guide, for example, to what those timber volumes might be, it will be a relatively easy matter to determine what par for the course is, if one likes, if the announced volumes, which we hope we will hear by at least next Friday, are divided by the currently contracted volumes. That will establish a percentage of the currently contracted volumes that are available across the industry. Although that will not necessarily be a guide to what everybody will be offered, at least a par-for-the-course figure will be established, and one would know, for example, from that number how to make a judgment whether, in Sotico Pty Ltd’s case or any other, the offer that had been negotiated between the proponent and the Government was above or below the median line.
If the member or anyone else wants to get a guide, for example, to what those timber volumes might be, it will be a relatively easy matter to determine what par for the course is, if one likes, if the announced volumes, which we hope we will hear by at least next Friday, are divided by the currently contracted volumes. That will establish a percentage of the currently contracted volumes that are available across the industry. Although that will not necessarily be a guide to what everybody will be offered, at least a par-for-the-course figure will be established, and one would know, for example, from that number how to make a judgment whether, in Sotico Pty Ltd’s case or any other, the offer that had been negotiated between the proponent and the Government was above or below the median line.
(1) Is the minister able to be more firm now on what “shortly” means? (2) The minister said that the distribution of allocations between particular people will be a longer process. Can the minister give some indication of how much longer it will be? Hon KIM CHANCE replied: (1) No, although I did indicate in answer to a similar question the other day that I was hopeful that an announcement would be made by or before Friday of next week but that it was dependent on the process of negotiations. I refer, in particular, to the process of negotiations with the two unions concerned, the Construction, Mining, Forestry and Energy Union and the Australian Workers Union. (2) The manner of allocation will not necessarily be decided by government. The private sector will play a part in those decisions because the allocation will depend on the uptake of the business exit provision. Hon Peter Foss: It is also dependent on the method you decide upon. They will not know that until you tell them. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed it is. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! We are not at the committee stage yet! Hon KIM CHANCE: Thank you, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss was only trying to help me understand the genre of the question, and I appreciate his assistance. I think I touched on this aspect yesterday: the final allocation will depend on the decisions the Government makes on the offer it is about to receive, as I understand it, from Sotico Pty Ltd. The volume that Sotico seeks in its proposition, and which will or will not be agreed to by government, will be a key determinant in how much volume is available for allocation within the rest of the industry. An important aspect of this matter, and particularly when considering the Sotico offer when the detail is available, is equity between the people who are currently contracting and those who are in effect left outside the loop. It would be unfair - I agree with the implication of the member’s question - if the proportion of the available resource allocated to Sotico was such as to cause insufficient resource to be available for the rest of the players. Hon Peter Foss: And vice versa. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed. Not all players, I might add, are necessarily small mills. Some middle range to quite large mills, such as Collie’s, are as yet uncontracted and we have no firm negotiations with them. It is a balancing act, which makes it extremely difficult for me to give a precise answer to the question. All I can say at this stage is that the Government is progressing that issue with as much dispatch as it can. We understand how important it is, because this is part of the certainty for which that industry has been looking for some time. If the member or anyone else wants to get a guide, for example, to what those timber volumes might be, it will be a relatively easy matter to determine what par for the course is, if one likes, if the announced volumes, which we hope we will hear by at least next Friday, are divided by the currently contracted volumes. That will establish a percentage of the currently contracted volumes that are available across the industry. Although that will not necessarily be a guide to what everybody will be offered, at least a par-for-the-course figure will be established, and one would know, for example, from that number how to make a judgment whether, in Sotico Pty Ltd’s case or any other, the offer that had been negotiated between the proponent and the Government was above or below the median line.
(2) The minister said that the distribution of allocations between particular people will be a longer process. Can the minister give some indication of how much longer it will be? Hon KIM CHANCE replied: (1) No, although I did indicate in answer to a similar question the other day that I was hopeful that an announcement would be made by or before Friday of next week but that it was dependent on the process of negotiations. I refer, in particular, to the process of negotiations with the two unions concerned, the Construction, Mining, Forestry and Energy Union and the Australian Workers Union. (2) The manner of allocation will not necessarily be decided by government. The private sector will play a part in those decisions because the allocation will depend on the uptake of the business exit provision. Hon Peter Foss: It is also dependent on the method you decide upon. They will not know that until you tell them. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed it is. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! We are not at the committee stage yet! Hon KIM CHANCE: Thank you, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss was only trying to help me understand the genre of the question, and I appreciate his assistance. I think I touched on this aspect yesterday: the final allocation will depend on the decisions the Government makes on the offer it is about to receive, as I understand it, from Sotico Pty Ltd. The volume that Sotico seeks in its proposition, and which will or will not be agreed to by government, will be a key determinant in how much volume is available for allocation within the rest of the industry. An important aspect of this matter, and particularly when considering the Sotico offer when the detail is available, is equity between the people who are currently contracting and those who are in effect left outside the loop. It would be unfair - I agree with the implication of the member’s question - if the proportion of the available resource allocated to Sotico was such as to cause insufficient resource to be available for the rest of the players. Hon Peter Foss: And vice versa. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed. Not all players, I might add, are necessarily small mills. Some middle range to quite large mills, such as Collie’s, are as yet uncontracted and we have no firm negotiations with them. It is a balancing act, which makes it extremely difficult for me to give a precise answer to the question. All I can say at this stage is that the Government is progressing that issue with as much dispatch as it can. We understand how important it is, because this is part of the certainty for which that industry has been looking for some time. If the member or anyone else wants to get a guide, for example, to what those timber volumes might be, it will be a relatively easy matter to determine what par for the course is, if one likes, if the announced volumes, which we hope we will hear by at least next Friday, are divided by the currently contracted volumes. That will establish a percentage of the currently contracted volumes that are available across the industry. Although that will not necessarily be a guide to what everybody will be offered, at least a par-for-the-course figure will be established, and one would know, for example, from that number how to make a judgment whether, in Sotico Pty Ltd’s case or any other, the offer that had been negotiated between the proponent and the Government was above or below the median line.
Hon KIM CHANCE replied: (1) No, although I did indicate in answer to a similar question the other day that I was hopeful that an announcement would be made by or before Friday of next week but that it was dependent on the process of negotiations. I refer, in particular, to the process of negotiations with the two unions concerned, the Construction, Mining, Forestry and Energy Union and the Australian Workers Union. (2) The manner of allocation will not necessarily be decided by government. The private sector will play a part in those decisions because the allocation will depend on the uptake of the business exit provision. Hon Peter Foss: It is also dependent on the method you decide upon. They will not know that until you tell them. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed it is. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! We are not at the committee stage yet! Hon KIM CHANCE: Thank you, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss was only trying to help me understand the genre of the question, and I appreciate his assistance. I think I touched on this aspect yesterday: the final allocation will depend on the decisions the Government makes on the offer it is about to receive, as I understand it, from Sotico Pty Ltd. The volume that Sotico seeks in its proposition, and which will or will not be agreed to by government, will be a key determinant in how much volume is available for allocation within the rest of the industry. An important aspect of this matter, and particularly when considering the Sotico offer when the detail is available, is equity between the people who are currently contracting and those who are in effect left outside the loop. It would be unfair - I agree with the implication of the member’s question - if the proportion of the available resource allocated to Sotico was such as to cause insufficient resource to be available for the rest of the players. Hon Peter Foss: And vice versa. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed. Not all players, I might add, are necessarily small mills. Some middle range to quite large mills, such as Collie’s, are as yet uncontracted and we have no firm negotiations with them. It is a balancing act, which makes it extremely difficult for me to give a precise answer to the question. All I can say at this stage is that the Government is progressing that issue with as much dispatch as it can. We understand how important it is, because this is part of the certainty for which that industry has been looking for some time. If the member or anyone else wants to get a guide, for example, to what those timber volumes might be, it will be a relatively easy matter to determine what par for the course is, if one likes, if the announced volumes, which we hope we will hear by at least next Friday, are divided by the currently contracted volumes. That will establish a percentage of the currently contracted volumes that are available across the industry. Although that will not necessarily be a guide to what everybody will be offered, at least a par-for-the-course figure will be established, and one would know, for example, from that number how to make a judgment whether, in Sotico Pty Ltd’s case or any other, the offer that had been negotiated between the proponent and the Government was above or below the median line.
(1) No, although I did indicate in answer to a similar question the other day that I was hopeful that an announcement would be made by or before Friday of next week but that it was dependent on the process of negotiations. I refer, in particular, to the process of negotiations with the two unions concerned, the Construction, Mining, Forestry and Energy Union and the Australian Workers Union. (2) The manner of allocation will not necessarily be decided by government. The private sector will play a part in those decisions because the allocation will depend on the uptake of the business exit provision. Hon Peter Foss: It is also dependent on the method you decide upon. They will not know that until you tell them. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed it is. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! We are not at the committee stage yet! Hon KIM CHANCE: Thank you, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss was only trying to help me understand the genre of the question, and I appreciate his assistance. I think I touched on this aspect yesterday: the final allocation will depend on the decisions the Government makes on the offer it is about to receive, as I understand it, from Sotico Pty Ltd. The volume that Sotico seeks in its proposition, and which will or will not be agreed to by government, will be a key determinant in how much volume is available for allocation within the rest of the industry. An important aspect of this matter, and particularly when considering the Sotico offer when the detail is available, is equity between the people who are currently contracting and those who are in effect left outside the loop. It would be unfair - I agree with the implication of the member’s question - if the proportion of the available resource allocated to Sotico was such as to cause insufficient resource to be available for the rest of the players. Hon Peter Foss: And vice versa. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed. Not all players, I might add, are necessarily small mills. Some middle range to quite large mills, such as Collie’s, are as yet uncontracted and we have no firm negotiations with them. It is a balancing act, which makes it extremely difficult for me to give a precise answer to the question. All I can say at this stage is that the Government is progressing that issue with as much dispatch as it can. We understand how important it is, because this is part of the certainty for which that industry has been looking for some time. If the member or anyone else wants to get a guide, for example, to what those timber volumes might be, it will be a relatively easy matter to determine what par for the course is, if one likes, if the announced volumes, which we hope we will hear by at least next Friday, are divided by the currently contracted volumes. That will establish a percentage of the currently contracted volumes that are available across the industry. Although that will not necessarily be a guide to what everybody will be offered, at least a par-for-the-course figure will be established, and one would know, for example, from that number how to make a judgment whether, in Sotico Pty Ltd’s case or any other, the offer that had been negotiated between the proponent and the Government was above or below the median line.
(2) The manner of allocation will not necessarily be decided by government. The private sector will play a part in those decisions because the allocation will depend on the uptake of the business exit provision. Hon Peter Foss: It is also dependent on the method you decide upon. They will not know that until you tell them. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed it is. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! We are not at the committee stage yet! Hon KIM CHANCE: Thank you, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss was only trying to help me understand the genre of the question, and I appreciate his assistance. I think I touched on this aspect yesterday: the final allocation will depend on the decisions the Government makes on the offer it is about to receive, as I understand it, from Sotico Pty Ltd. The volume that Sotico seeks in its proposition, and which will or will not be agreed to by government, will be a key determinant in how much volume is available for allocation within the rest of the industry. An important aspect of this matter, and particularly when considering the Sotico offer when the detail is available, is equity between the people who are currently contracting and those who are in effect left outside the loop. It would be unfair - I agree with the implication of the member’s question - if the proportion of the available resource allocated to Sotico was such as to cause insufficient resource to be available for the rest of the players. Hon Peter Foss: And vice versa. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed. Not all players, I might add, are necessarily small mills. Some middle range to quite large mills, such as Collie’s, are as yet uncontracted and we have no firm negotiations with them. It is a balancing act, which makes it extremely difficult for me to give a precise answer to the question. All I can say at this stage is that the Government is progressing that issue with as much dispatch as it can. We understand how important it is, because this is part of the certainty for which that industry has been looking for some time. If the member or anyone else wants to get a guide, for example, to what those timber volumes might be, it will be a relatively easy matter to determine what par for the course is, if one likes, if the announced volumes, which we hope we will hear by at least next Friday, are divided by the currently contracted volumes. That will establish a percentage of the currently contracted volumes that are available across the industry. Although that will not necessarily be a guide to what everybody will be offered, at least a par-for-the-course figure will be established, and one would know, for example, from that number how to make a judgment whether, in Sotico Pty Ltd’s case or any other, the offer that had been negotiated between the proponent and the Government was above or below the median line.
Hon Peter Foss: It is also dependent on the method you decide upon. They will not know that until you tell them. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed it is. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! We are not at the committee stage yet! Hon KIM CHANCE: Thank you, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss was only trying to help me understand the genre of the question, and I appreciate his assistance. I think I touched on this aspect yesterday: the final allocation will depend on the decisions the Government makes on the offer it is about to receive, as I understand it, from Sotico Pty Ltd. The volume that Sotico seeks in its proposition, and which will or will not be agreed to by government, will be a key determinant in how much volume is available for allocation within the rest of the industry. An important aspect of this matter, and particularly when considering the Sotico offer when the detail is available, is equity between the people who are currently contracting and those who are in effect left outside the loop. It would be unfair - I agree with the implication of the member’s question - if the proportion of the available resource allocated to Sotico was such as to cause insufficient resource to be available for the rest of the players. Hon Peter Foss: And vice versa. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed. Not all players, I might add, are necessarily small mills. Some middle range to quite large mills, such as Collie’s, are as yet uncontracted and we have no firm negotiations with them. It is a balancing act, which makes it extremely difficult for me to give a precise answer to the question. All I can say at this stage is that the Government is progressing that issue with as much dispatch as it can. We understand how important it is, because this is part of the certainty for which that industry has been looking for some time. If the member or anyone else wants to get a guide, for example, to what those timber volumes might be, it will be a relatively easy matter to determine what par for the course is, if one likes, if the announced volumes, which we hope we will hear by at least next Friday, are divided by the currently contracted volumes. That will establish a percentage of the currently contracted volumes that are available across the industry. Although that will not necessarily be a guide to what everybody will be offered, at least a par-for-the-course figure will be established, and one would know, for example, from that number how to make a judgment whether, in Sotico Pty Ltd’s case or any other, the offer that had been negotiated between the proponent and the Government was above or below the median line.
Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed it is. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! We are not at the committee stage yet! Hon KIM CHANCE: Thank you, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss was only trying to help me understand the genre of the question, and I appreciate his assistance. I think I touched on this aspect yesterday: the final allocation will depend on the decisions the Government makes on the offer it is about to receive, as I understand it, from Sotico Pty Ltd. The volume that Sotico seeks in its proposition, and which will or will not be agreed to by government, will be a key determinant in how much volume is available for allocation within the rest of the industry. An important aspect of this matter, and particularly when considering the Sotico offer when the detail is available, is equity between the people who are currently contracting and those who are in effect left outside the loop. It would be unfair - I agree with the implication of the member’s question - if the proportion of the available resource allocated to Sotico was such as to cause insufficient resource to be available for the rest of the players. Hon Peter Foss: And vice versa. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed. Not all players, I might add, are necessarily small mills. Some middle range to quite large mills, such as Collie’s, are as yet uncontracted and we have no firm negotiations with them. It is a balancing act, which makes it extremely difficult for me to give a precise answer to the question. All I can say at this stage is that the Government is progressing that issue with as much dispatch as it can. We understand how important it is, because this is part of the certainty for which that industry has been looking for some time. If the member or anyone else wants to get a guide, for example, to what those timber volumes might be, it will be a relatively easy matter to determine what par for the course is, if one likes, if the announced volumes, which we hope we will hear by at least next Friday, are divided by the currently contracted volumes. That will establish a percentage of the currently contracted volumes that are available across the industry. Although that will not necessarily be a guide to what everybody will be offered, at least a par-for-the-course figure will be established, and one would know, for example, from that number how to make a judgment whether, in Sotico Pty Ltd’s case or any other, the offer that had been negotiated between the proponent and the Government was above or below the median line.
Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! We are not at the committee stage yet! Hon KIM CHANCE: Thank you, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss was only trying to help me understand the genre of the question, and I appreciate his assistance. I think I touched on this aspect yesterday: the final allocation will depend on the decisions the Government makes on the offer it is about to receive, as I understand it, from Sotico Pty Ltd. The volume that Sotico seeks in its proposition, and which will or will not be agreed to by government, will be a key determinant in how much volume is available for allocation within the rest of the industry. An important aspect of this matter, and particularly when considering the Sotico offer when the detail is available, is equity between the people who are currently contracting and those who are in effect left outside the loop. It would be unfair - I agree with the implication of the member’s question - if the proportion of the available resource allocated to Sotico was such as to cause insufficient resource to be available for the rest of the players. Hon Peter Foss: And vice versa. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed. Not all players, I might add, are necessarily small mills. Some middle range to quite large mills, such as Collie’s, are as yet uncontracted and we have no firm negotiations with them. It is a balancing act, which makes it extremely difficult for me to give a precise answer to the question. All I can say at this stage is that the Government is progressing that issue with as much dispatch as it can. We understand how important it is, because this is part of the certainty for which that industry has been looking for some time. If the member or anyone else wants to get a guide, for example, to what those timber volumes might be, it will be a relatively easy matter to determine what par for the course is, if one likes, if the announced volumes, which we hope we will hear by at least next Friday, are divided by the currently contracted volumes. That will establish a percentage of the currently contracted volumes that are available across the industry. Although that will not necessarily be a guide to what everybody will be offered, at least a par-for-the-course figure will be established, and one would know, for example, from that number how to make a judgment whether, in Sotico Pty Ltd’s case or any other, the offer that had been negotiated between the proponent and the Government was above or below the median line.
The PRESIDENT: Order! We are not at the committee stage yet! Hon KIM CHANCE: Thank you, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss was only trying to help me understand the genre of the question, and I appreciate his assistance. I think I touched on this aspect yesterday: the final allocation will depend on the decisions the Government makes on the offer it is about to receive, as I understand it, from Sotico Pty Ltd. The volume that Sotico seeks in its proposition, and which will or will not be agreed to by government, will be a key determinant in how much volume is available for allocation within the rest of the industry. An important aspect of this matter, and particularly when considering the Sotico offer when the detail is available, is equity between the people who are currently contracting and those who are in effect left outside the loop. It would be unfair - I agree with the implication of the member’s question - if the proportion of the available resource allocated to Sotico was such as to cause insufficient resource to be available for the rest of the players. Hon Peter Foss: And vice versa. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed. Not all players, I might add, are necessarily small mills. Some middle range to quite large mills, such as Collie’s, are as yet uncontracted and we have no firm negotiations with them. It is a balancing act, which makes it extremely difficult for me to give a precise answer to the question. All I can say at this stage is that the Government is progressing that issue with as much dispatch as it can. We understand how important it is, because this is part of the certainty for which that industry has been looking for some time. If the member or anyone else wants to get a guide, for example, to what those timber volumes might be, it will be a relatively easy matter to determine what par for the course is, if one likes, if the announced volumes, which we hope we will hear by at least next Friday, are divided by the currently contracted volumes. That will establish a percentage of the currently contracted volumes that are available across the industry. Although that will not necessarily be a guide to what everybody will be offered, at least a par-for-the-course figure will be established, and one would know, for example, from that number how to make a judgment whether, in Sotico Pty Ltd’s case or any other, the offer that had been negotiated between the proponent and the Government was above or below the median line.
Hon KIM CHANCE: Thank you, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss was only trying to help me understand the genre of the question, and I appreciate his assistance. I think I touched on this aspect yesterday: the final allocation will depend on the decisions the Government makes on the offer it is about to receive, as I understand it, from Sotico Pty Ltd. The volume that Sotico seeks in its proposition, and which will or will not be agreed to by government, will be a key determinant in how much volume is available for allocation within the rest of the industry. An important aspect of this matter, and particularly when considering the Sotico offer when the detail is available, is equity between the people who are currently contracting and those who are in effect left outside the loop. It would be unfair - I agree with the implication of the member’s question - if the proportion of the available resource allocated to Sotico was such as to cause insufficient resource to be available for the rest of the players. Hon Peter Foss: And vice versa. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed. Not all players, I might add, are necessarily small mills. Some middle range to quite large mills, such as Collie’s, are as yet uncontracted and we have no firm negotiations with them. It is a balancing act, which makes it extremely difficult for me to give a precise answer to the question. All I can say at this stage is that the Government is progressing that issue with as much dispatch as it can. We understand how important it is, because this is part of the certainty for which that industry has been looking for some time. If the member or anyone else wants to get a guide, for example, to what those timber volumes might be, it will be a relatively easy matter to determine what par for the course is, if one likes, if the announced volumes, which we hope we will hear by at least next Friday, are divided by the currently contracted volumes. That will establish a percentage of the currently contracted volumes that are available across the industry. Although that will not necessarily be a guide to what everybody will be offered, at least a par-for-the-course figure will be established, and one would know, for example, from that number how to make a judgment whether, in Sotico Pty Ltd’s case or any other, the offer that had been negotiated between the proponent and the Government was above or below the median line.
Hon Peter Foss: And vice versa. Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed. Not all players, I might add, are necessarily small mills. Some middle range to quite large mills, such as Collie’s, are as yet uncontracted and we have no firm negotiations with them. It is a balancing act, which makes it extremely difficult for me to give a precise answer to the question. All I can say at this stage is that the Government is progressing that issue with as much dispatch as it can. We understand how important it is, because this is part of the certainty for which that industry has been looking for some time. If the member or anyone else wants to get a guide, for example, to what those timber volumes might be, it will be a relatively easy matter to determine what par for the course is, if one likes, if the announced volumes, which we hope we will hear by at least next Friday, are divided by the currently contracted volumes. That will establish a percentage of the currently contracted volumes that are available across the industry. Although that will not necessarily be a guide to what everybody will be offered, at least a par-for-the-course figure will be established, and one would know, for example, from that number how to make a judgment whether, in Sotico Pty Ltd’s case or any other, the offer that had been negotiated between the proponent and the Government was above or below the median line.
Hon KIM CHANCE: Indeed. Not all players, I might add, are necessarily small mills. Some middle range to quite large mills, such as Collie’s, are as yet uncontracted and we have no firm negotiations with them. It is a balancing act, which makes it extremely difficult for me to give a precise answer to the question. All I can say at this stage is that the Government is progressing that issue with as much dispatch as it can. We understand how important it is, because this is part of the certainty for which that industry has been looking for some time. If the member or anyone else wants to get a guide, for example, to what those timber volumes might be, it will be a relatively easy matter to determine what par for the course is, if one likes, if the announced volumes, which we hope we will hear by at least next Friday, are divided by the currently contracted volumes. That will establish a percentage of the currently contracted volumes that are available across the industry. Although that will not necessarily be a guide to what everybody will be offered, at least a par-for-the-course figure will be established, and one would know, for example, from that number how to make a judgment whether, in Sotico Pty Ltd’s case or any other, the offer that had been negotiated between the proponent and the Government was above or below the median line.
If the member or anyone else wants to get a guide, for example, to what those timber volumes might be, it will be a relatively easy matter to determine what par for the course is, if one likes, if the announced volumes, which we hope we will hear by at least next Friday, are divided by the currently contracted volumes. That will establish a percentage of the currently contracted volumes that are available across the industry. Although that will not necessarily be a guide to what everybody will be offered, at least a par-for-the-course figure will be established, and one would know, for example, from that number how to make a judgment whether, in Sotico Pty Ltd’s case or any other, the offer that had been negotiated between the proponent and the Government was above or below the median line.
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