Mr. Ripper questions the Minister about reported infighting between the Department of Environment and Conservation (DEC) and the Fire and Emergency Services Authority (FESA). The Minister's response focuses on cooperation and prescribed burns, drawing criticism for not directly addressing the infighting issue.

AnsweredQoN 496Legislative Assembly
Asked
18 August 2011
Portfolio
Environment

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Department of Environment and Conservation– Fire and Emergency Services Authority — WORKING RELATIONSHIP
The Sunday Times reported on 10 July 2011 that the minister had denied any problems between the Department of Environment and Conservation and the Fire and Emergency Services Authority. (1) Is it credible that the minister did not know at that time that there were problems and infighting between these two agencies? (2) What has the minister personally done to resolve this infighting? Mr W.R. MARMION

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(1)–(2) The Department of Environment and Conservation and FESA work together on fighting fires. A protocol is in place under which FESA takes control. I was on site for the Clifton fire. I watched the DEC officers fighting a fire. I went through their control operations. The on-site incident control person was from FESA. They worked very well together. In relation to the Roleystone fire, as everyone knows, DEC is responsible for prescribed burns. I report to the house that since the Roleystone fire, DEC has undertaken eight prescribed burns in that area. Mr M. McGowan : That was not the question. Mr E.S. Ripper : That was not the question. Why didn’t you tell the truth to The Sunday Times ? The SPEAKER : Order! Mr W.R. MARMION : Members opposite asked what we had done. DEC has undertaken eight prescribed burns in the area. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : The question was about what was done to resolve the infighting and not about what actions have been taken since the event. The minister is directly and deliberately misleading the house with his answer. The SPEAKER : I am sure the minister will have the opportunity to provide further information in his answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr W.R. MARMION : As I was saying—I will get to the actual question the member asked—it is very important that the people of Western Australia know that we have undertaken eight prescribed burns in that area to make sure that the people of Roleystone are protected in case of another fire. There were prescribed burns in the Wungong Regional Park, the Churchman forest block, the Banyowla Regional Park — Mr E.S. Ripper : You are answering the question you thought we might ask, but it is not the question we actually asked. Mr W.R. MARMION : This is very important, Mr Speaker. There were also prescribed burns in Victoria forest block, Sawyers Valley, Mundy Regional Park, Greenmount National Park and Kalamunda National Park. Mr E.S. Ripper : I am sorry I asked the wrong question! The SPEAKER : I think you will have a supplementary question coming, Leader of the Opposition. I am sure you will. I anticipate that you will, given what you have said. Minister. Mr W.R. MARMION : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I might close. Several members interjected. Mr E.S. Ripper : Without having answered the question! Mr W.R. MARMION : DEC is cooperating with FESA on all the recommendations in the Keelty report.
(1) Is it credible that the minister did not know at that time that there were problems and infighting between these two agencies? (2) What has the minister personally done to resolve this infighting? Mr W.R. MARMION replied: (1)–(2) The Department of Environment and Conservation and FESA work together on fighting fires. A protocol is in place under which FESA takes control. I was on site for the Clifton fire. I watched the DEC officers fighting a fire. I went through their control operations. The on-site incident control person was from FESA. They worked very well together. In relation to the Roleystone fire, as everyone knows, DEC is responsible for prescribed burns. I report to the house that since the Roleystone fire, DEC has undertaken eight prescribed burns in that area. Mr M. McGowan : That was not the question. Mr E.S. Ripper : That was not the question. Why didn’t you tell the truth to The Sunday Times ? The SPEAKER : Order! Mr W.R. MARMION : Members opposite asked what we had done. DEC has undertaken eight prescribed burns in the area. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : The question was about what was done to resolve the infighting and not about what actions have been taken since the event. The minister is directly and deliberately misleading the house with his answer. The SPEAKER : I am sure the minister will have the opportunity to provide further information in his answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr W.R. MARMION : As I was saying—I will get to the actual question the member asked—it is very important that the people of Western Australia know that we have undertaken eight prescribed burns in that area to make sure that the people of Roleystone are protected in case of another fire. There were prescribed burns in the Wungong Regional Park, the Churchman forest block, the Banyowla Regional Park — Mr E.S. Ripper : You are answering the question you thought we might ask, but it is not the question we actually asked. Mr W.R. MARMION : This is very important, Mr Speaker. There were also prescribed burns in Victoria forest block, Sawyers Valley, Mundy Regional Park, Greenmount National Park and Kalamunda National Park. Mr E.S. Ripper : I am sorry I asked the wrong question! The SPEAKER : I think you will have a supplementary question coming, Leader of the Opposition. I am sure you will. I anticipate that you will, given what you have said. Minister. Mr W.R. MARMION : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I might close. Several members interjected. Mr E.S. Ripper : Without having answered the question! Mr W.R. MARMION : DEC is cooperating with FESA on all the recommendations in the Keelty report.
(2) What has the minister personally done to resolve this infighting? Mr W.R. MARMION replied: (1)–(2) The Department of Environment and Conservation and FESA work together on fighting fires. A protocol is in place under which FESA takes control. I was on site for the Clifton fire. I watched the DEC officers fighting a fire. I went through their control operations. The on-site incident control person was from FESA. They worked very well together. In relation to the Roleystone fire, as everyone knows, DEC is responsible for prescribed burns. I report to the house that since the Roleystone fire, DEC has undertaken eight prescribed burns in that area. Mr M. McGowan : That was not the question. Mr E.S. Ripper : That was not the question. Why didn’t you tell the truth to The Sunday Times ? The SPEAKER : Order! Mr W.R. MARMION : Members opposite asked what we had done. DEC has undertaken eight prescribed burns in the area. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : The question was about what was done to resolve the infighting and not about what actions have been taken since the event. The minister is directly and deliberately misleading the house with his answer. The SPEAKER : I am sure the minister will have the opportunity to provide further information in his answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr W.R. MARMION : As I was saying—I will get to the actual question the member asked—it is very important that the people of Western Australia know that we have undertaken eight prescribed burns in that area to make sure that the people of Roleystone are protected in case of another fire. There were prescribed burns in the Wungong Regional Park, the Churchman forest block, the Banyowla Regional Park — Mr E.S. Ripper : You are answering the question you thought we might ask, but it is not the question we actually asked. Mr W.R. MARMION : This is very important, Mr Speaker. There were also prescribed burns in Victoria forest block, Sawyers Valley, Mundy Regional Park, Greenmount National Park and Kalamunda National Park. Mr E.S. Ripper : I am sorry I asked the wrong question! The SPEAKER : I think you will have a supplementary question coming, Leader of the Opposition. I am sure you will. I anticipate that you will, given what you have said. Minister. Mr W.R. MARMION : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I might close. Several members interjected. Mr E.S. Ripper : Without having answered the question! Mr W.R. MARMION : DEC is cooperating with FESA on all the recommendations in the Keelty report.
Mr W.R. MARMION replied: (1)–(2) The Department of Environment and Conservation and FESA work together on fighting fires. A protocol is in place under which FESA takes control. I was on site for the Clifton fire. I watched the DEC officers fighting a fire. I went through their control operations. The on-site incident control person was from FESA. They worked very well together. In relation to the Roleystone fire, as everyone knows, DEC is responsible for prescribed burns. I report to the house that since the Roleystone fire, DEC has undertaken eight prescribed burns in that area. Mr M. McGowan : That was not the question. Mr E.S. Ripper : That was not the question. Why didn’t you tell the truth to The Sunday Times ? The SPEAKER : Order! Mr W.R. MARMION : Members opposite asked what we had done. DEC has undertaken eight prescribed burns in the area. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : The question was about what was done to resolve the infighting and not about what actions have been taken since the event. The minister is directly and deliberately misleading the house with his answer. The SPEAKER : I am sure the minister will have the opportunity to provide further information in his answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr W.R. MARMION : As I was saying—I will get to the actual question the member asked—it is very important that the people of Western Australia know that we have undertaken eight prescribed burns in that area to make sure that the people of Roleystone are protected in case of another fire. There were prescribed burns in the Wungong Regional Park, the Churchman forest block, the Banyowla Regional Park — Mr E.S. Ripper : You are answering the question you thought we might ask, but it is not the question we actually asked. Mr W.R. MARMION : This is very important, Mr Speaker. There were also prescribed burns in Victoria forest block, Sawyers Valley, Mundy Regional Park, Greenmount National Park and Kalamunda National Park. Mr E.S. Ripper : I am sorry I asked the wrong question! The SPEAKER : I think you will have a supplementary question coming, Leader of the Opposition. I am sure you will. I anticipate that you will, given what you have said. Minister. Mr W.R. MARMION : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I might close. Several members interjected. Mr E.S. Ripper : Without having answered the question! Mr W.R. MARMION : DEC is cooperating with FESA on all the recommendations in the Keelty report.
(1)–(2) The Department of Environment and Conservation and FESA work together on fighting fires. A protocol is in place under which FESA takes control. I was on site for the Clifton fire. I watched the DEC officers fighting a fire. I went through their control operations. The on-site incident control person was from FESA. They worked very well together. In relation to the Roleystone fire, as everyone knows, DEC is responsible for prescribed burns. I report to the house that since the Roleystone fire, DEC has undertaken eight prescribed burns in that area. Mr M. McGowan : That was not the question. Mr E.S. Ripper : That was not the question. Why didn’t you tell the truth to The Sunday Times ? The SPEAKER : Order! Mr W.R. MARMION : Members opposite asked what we had done. DEC has undertaken eight prescribed burns in the area. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : The question was about what was done to resolve the infighting and not about what actions have been taken since the event. The minister is directly and deliberately misleading the house with his answer. The SPEAKER : I am sure the minister will have the opportunity to provide further information in his answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr W.R. MARMION : As I was saying—I will get to the actual question the member asked—it is very important that the people of Western Australia know that we have undertaken eight prescribed burns in that area to make sure that the people of Roleystone are protected in case of another fire. There were prescribed burns in the Wungong Regional Park, the Churchman forest block, the Banyowla Regional Park — Mr E.S. Ripper : You are answering the question you thought we might ask, but it is not the question we actually asked. Mr W.R. MARMION : This is very important, Mr Speaker. There were also prescribed burns in Victoria forest block, Sawyers Valley, Mundy Regional Park, Greenmount National Park and Kalamunda National Park. Mr E.S. Ripper : I am sorry I asked the wrong question! The SPEAKER : I think you will have a supplementary question coming, Leader of the Opposition. I am sure you will. I anticipate that you will, given what you have said. Minister. Mr W.R. MARMION : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I might close. Several members interjected. Mr E.S. Ripper : Without having answered the question! Mr W.R. MARMION : DEC is cooperating with FESA on all the recommendations in the Keelty report.
Mr E.S. Ripper : That was not the question. Why didn’t you tell the truth to The Sunday Times ? The SPEAKER : Order! Mr W.R. MARMION : Members opposite asked what we had done. DEC has undertaken eight prescribed burns in the area. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : The question was about what was done to resolve the infighting and not about what actions have been taken since the event. The minister is directly and deliberately misleading the house with his answer. The SPEAKER : I am sure the minister will have the opportunity to provide further information in his answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr W.R. MARMION : As I was saying—I will get to the actual question the member asked—it is very important that the people of Western Australia know that we have undertaken eight prescribed burns in that area to make sure that the people of Roleystone are protected in case of another fire. There were prescribed burns in the Wungong Regional Park, the Churchman forest block, the Banyowla Regional Park — Mr E.S. Ripper : You are answering the question you thought we might ask, but it is not the question we actually asked. Mr W.R. MARMION : This is very important, Mr Speaker. There were also prescribed burns in Victoria forest block, Sawyers Valley, Mundy Regional Park, Greenmount National Park and Kalamunda National Park. Mr E.S. Ripper : I am sorry I asked the wrong question! The SPEAKER : I think you will have a supplementary question coming, Leader of the Opposition. I am sure you will. I anticipate that you will, given what you have said. Minister. Mr W.R. MARMION : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I might close. Several members interjected. Mr E.S. Ripper : Without having answered the question! Mr W.R. MARMION : DEC is cooperating with FESA on all the recommendations in the Keelty report.
The SPEAKER : Order! Mr W.R. MARMION : Members opposite asked what we had done. DEC has undertaken eight prescribed burns in the area. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : The question was about what was done to resolve the infighting and not about what actions have been taken since the event. The minister is directly and deliberately misleading the house with his answer. The SPEAKER : I am sure the minister will have the opportunity to provide further information in his answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr W.R. MARMION : As I was saying—I will get to the actual question the member asked—it is very important that the people of Western Australia know that we have undertaken eight prescribed burns in that area to make sure that the people of Roleystone are protected in case of another fire. There were prescribed burns in the Wungong Regional Park, the Churchman forest block, the Banyowla Regional Park — Mr E.S. Ripper : You are answering the question you thought we might ask, but it is not the question we actually asked. Mr W.R. MARMION : This is very important, Mr Speaker. There were also prescribed burns in Victoria forest block, Sawyers Valley, Mundy Regional Park, Greenmount National Park and Kalamunda National Park. Mr E.S. Ripper : I am sorry I asked the wrong question! The SPEAKER : I think you will have a supplementary question coming, Leader of the Opposition. I am sure you will. I anticipate that you will, given what you have said. Minister. Mr W.R. MARMION : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I might close. Several members interjected. Mr E.S. Ripper : Without having answered the question! Mr W.R. MARMION : DEC is cooperating with FESA on all the recommendations in the Keelty report.
Mr W.R. MARMION : Members opposite asked what we had done. DEC has undertaken eight prescribed burns in the area. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : The question was about what was done to resolve the infighting and not about what actions have been taken since the event. The minister is directly and deliberately misleading the house with his answer. The SPEAKER : I am sure the minister will have the opportunity to provide further information in his answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr W.R. MARMION : As I was saying—I will get to the actual question the member asked—it is very important that the people of Western Australia know that we have undertaken eight prescribed burns in that area to make sure that the people of Roleystone are protected in case of another fire. There were prescribed burns in the Wungong Regional Park, the Churchman forest block, the Banyowla Regional Park — Mr E.S. Ripper : You are answering the question you thought we might ask, but it is not the question we actually asked. Mr W.R. MARMION : This is very important, Mr Speaker. There were also prescribed burns in Victoria forest block, Sawyers Valley, Mundy Regional Park, Greenmount National Park and Kalamunda National Park. Mr E.S. Ripper : I am sorry I asked the wrong question! The SPEAKER : I think you will have a supplementary question coming, Leader of the Opposition. I am sure you will. I anticipate that you will, given what you have said. Minister. Mr W.R. MARMION : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I might close. Several members interjected. Mr E.S. Ripper : Without having answered the question! Mr W.R. MARMION : DEC is cooperating with FESA on all the recommendations in the Keelty report.
The SPEAKER : I am sure the minister will have the opportunity to provide further information in his answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr W.R. MARMION : As I was saying—I will get to the actual question the member asked—it is very important that the people of Western Australia know that we have undertaken eight prescribed burns in that area to make sure that the people of Roleystone are protected in case of another fire. There were prescribed burns in the Wungong Regional Park, the Churchman forest block, the Banyowla Regional Park — Mr E.S. Ripper : You are answering the question you thought we might ask, but it is not the question we actually asked. Mr W.R. MARMION : This is very important, Mr Speaker. There were also prescribed burns in Victoria forest block, Sawyers Valley, Mundy Regional Park, Greenmount National Park and Kalamunda National Park. Mr E.S. Ripper : I am sorry I asked the wrong question! The SPEAKER : I think you will have a supplementary question coming, Leader of the Opposition. I am sure you will. I anticipate that you will, given what you have said. Minister. Mr W.R. MARMION : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I might close. Several members interjected. Mr E.S. Ripper : Without having answered the question! Mr W.R. MARMION : DEC is cooperating with FESA on all the recommendations in the Keelty report.
Mr E.S. Ripper : You are answering the question you thought we might ask, but it is not the question we actually asked. Mr W.R. MARMION : This is very important, Mr Speaker. There were also prescribed burns in Victoria forest block, Sawyers Valley, Mundy Regional Park, Greenmount National Park and Kalamunda National Park. Mr E.S. Ripper : I am sorry I asked the wrong question! The SPEAKER : I think you will have a supplementary question coming, Leader of the Opposition. I am sure you will. I anticipate that you will, given what you have said. Minister. Mr W.R. MARMION : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I might close. Several members interjected. Mr E.S. Ripper : Without having answered the question! Mr W.R. MARMION : DEC is cooperating with FESA on all the recommendations in the Keelty report.
Mr W.R. MARMION : This is very important, Mr Speaker. There were also prescribed burns in Victoria forest block, Sawyers Valley, Mundy Regional Park, Greenmount National Park and Kalamunda National Park. Mr E.S. Ripper : I am sorry I asked the wrong question! The SPEAKER : I think you will have a supplementary question coming, Leader of the Opposition. I am sure you will. I anticipate that you will, given what you have said. Minister. Mr W.R. MARMION : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I might close. Several members interjected. Mr E.S. Ripper : Without having answered the question! Mr W.R. MARMION : DEC is cooperating with FESA on all the recommendations in the Keelty report.
Mr E.S. Ripper : I am sorry I asked the wrong question! The SPEAKER : I think you will have a supplementary question coming, Leader of the Opposition. I am sure you will. I anticipate that you will, given what you have said. Minister. Mr W.R. MARMION : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I might close. Several members interjected. Mr E.S. Ripper : Without having answered the question! Mr W.R. MARMION : DEC is cooperating with FESA on all the recommendations in the Keelty report.
The SPEAKER : I think you will have a supplementary question coming, Leader of the Opposition. I am sure you will. I anticipate that you will, given what you have said. Minister. Mr W.R. MARMION : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I might close. Several members interjected. Mr E.S. Ripper : Without having answered the question! Mr W.R. MARMION : DEC is cooperating with FESA on all the recommendations in the Keelty report.
Mr W.R. MARMION : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I might close. Several members interjected. Mr E.S. Ripper : Without having answered the question! Mr W.R. MARMION : DEC is cooperating with FESA on all the recommendations in the Keelty report.
Several members interjected. Mr E.S. Ripper : Without having answered the question! Mr W.R. MARMION : DEC is cooperating with FESA on all the recommendations in the Keelty report.
Mr E.S. Ripper : Without having answered the question! Mr W.R. MARMION : DEC is cooperating with FESA on all the recommendations in the Keelty report.
Mr W.R. MARMION : DEC is cooperating with FESA on all the recommendations in the Keelty report.

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