❓ Debate over the accuracy of government advertising expenditure figures. The Premier disputes the Opposition's claim of $90m/year, stating the actual figure is closer to $45m/year, including bulk buying arrangements.
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The Leader of the Opposition said in his speech during the Address-in-Reply debate that the Government spends $90m a year on advertising. How accurate is the Leader of the Opposition's claim? Mr COURT
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Last week, once again, the Leader of the Opposition said that we had contracted to spend $90m a year on advertising. Mr Kobelke: On average. Mr COURT: No. On average, it is half of that - $45m a year. We have said before to the Opposition, "You have got the $90m figure wrong. How about getting it right?" The Opposition has said it will fund the extra police from the savings in the $90m a year advertising budget. I will provide the accurate the figures. The campaign advertising contract is estimated to be $112m over four years. Mr Kobelke: Two years. Mr COURT: Four years, I said. Mr Kobelke: Two years is what the contract is let for. Dr Gallop: We have a copy of the contract. Mr COURT: It is a two-year contract, with a two-year option. This is what the Opposition has trouble understanding. Mr Kobelke: It will be another $112m next year if you renew the contract. Mr COURT: No. It is $112m over a four-year period. The non-campaign advertising contract is estimated to be $48m over a four-year period. The actual figures are 1997-98, $39.4m; 1998-99, $43.3m; and 1999-2000, approximately $45m. About half of that money is not spent by government departments, because, as the Opposition knows, in an arrangement that the previous Labor Government put together - it is an appropriate arrangement - bulk buying takes place that enables local governments, universities, charities, etc, to come in under that buying banner - Mr Kobelke: We know that; we have said that. Mr COURT: Approximately half of the $45m goes out in those sorts of campaigns. The Opposition is consistently using a $90m figure, and I am saying - Mr Kobelke: That is right. Mr COURT: I have just said it is $45m. There is a big difference between $45m and $90m. Mr Kobelke: You are trying to redefine what advertising is - more smart talk - instead of actually giving the figures. Mr COURT: I am talking about the contracts, and I just gave the actual figures. Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr COURT replied: Last week, once again, the Leader of the Opposition said that we had contracted to spend $90m a year on advertising. Mr Kobelke: On average. Mr COURT: No. On average, it is half of that - $45m a year. We have said before to the Opposition, "You have got the $90m figure wrong. How about getting it right?" The Opposition has said it will fund the extra police from the savings in the $90m a year advertising budget. I will provide the accurate the figures. The campaign advertising contract is estimated to be $112m over four years. Mr Kobelke: Two years. Mr COURT: Four years, I said. Mr Kobelke: Two years is what the contract is let for. Dr Gallop: We have a copy of the contract. Mr COURT: It is a two-year contract, with a two-year option. This is what the Opposition has trouble understanding. Mr Kobelke: It will be another $112m next year if you renew the contract. Mr COURT: No. It is $112m over a four-year period. The non-campaign advertising contract is estimated to be $48m over a four-year period. The actual figures are 1997-98, $39.4m; 1998-99, $43.3m; and 1999-2000, approximately $45m. About half of that money is not spent by government departments, because, as the Opposition knows, in an arrangement that the previous Labor Government put together - it is an appropriate arrangement - bulk buying takes place that enables local governments, universities, charities, etc, to come in under that buying banner - Mr Kobelke: We know that; we have said that. Mr COURT: Approximately half of the $45m goes out in those sorts of campaigns. The Opposition is consistently using a $90m figure, and I am saying - Mr Kobelke: That is right. Mr COURT: I have just said it is $45m. There is a big difference between $45m and $90m. Mr Kobelke: You are trying to redefine what advertising is - more smart talk - instead of actually giving the figures. Mr COURT: I am talking about the contracts, and I just gave the actual figures. Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Last week, once again, the Leader of the Opposition said that we had contracted to spend $90m a year on advertising. Mr Kobelke: On average. Mr COURT: No. On average, it is half of that - $45m a year. We have said before to the Opposition, "You have got the $90m figure wrong. How about getting it right?" The Opposition has said it will fund the extra police from the savings in the $90m a year advertising budget. I will provide the accurate the figures. The campaign advertising contract is estimated to be $112m over four years. Mr Kobelke: Two years. Mr COURT: Four years, I said. Mr Kobelke: Two years is what the contract is let for. Dr Gallop: We have a copy of the contract. Mr COURT: It is a two-year contract, with a two-year option. This is what the Opposition has trouble understanding. Mr Kobelke: It will be another $112m next year if you renew the contract. Mr COURT: No. It is $112m over a four-year period. The non-campaign advertising contract is estimated to be $48m over a four-year period. The actual figures are 1997-98, $39.4m; 1998-99, $43.3m; and 1999-2000, approximately $45m. About half of that money is not spent by government departments, because, as the Opposition knows, in an arrangement that the previous Labor Government put together - it is an appropriate arrangement - bulk buying takes place that enables local governments, universities, charities, etc, to come in under that buying banner - Mr Kobelke: We know that; we have said that. Mr COURT: Approximately half of the $45m goes out in those sorts of campaigns. The Opposition is consistently using a $90m figure, and I am saying - Mr Kobelke: That is right. Mr COURT: I have just said it is $45m. There is a big difference between $45m and $90m. Mr Kobelke: You are trying to redefine what advertising is - more smart talk - instead of actually giving the figures. Mr COURT: I am talking about the contracts, and I just gave the actual figures. Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr Kobelke: On average. Mr COURT: No. On average, it is half of that - $45m a year. We have said before to the Opposition, "You have got the $90m figure wrong. How about getting it right?" The Opposition has said it will fund the extra police from the savings in the $90m a year advertising budget. I will provide the accurate the figures. The campaign advertising contract is estimated to be $112m over four years. Mr Kobelke: Two years. Mr COURT: Four years, I said. Mr Kobelke: Two years is what the contract is let for. Dr Gallop: We have a copy of the contract. Mr COURT: It is a two-year contract, with a two-year option. This is what the Opposition has trouble understanding. Mr Kobelke: It will be another $112m next year if you renew the contract. Mr COURT: No. It is $112m over a four-year period. The non-campaign advertising contract is estimated to be $48m over a four-year period. The actual figures are 1997-98, $39.4m; 1998-99, $43.3m; and 1999-2000, approximately $45m. About half of that money is not spent by government departments, because, as the Opposition knows, in an arrangement that the previous Labor Government put together - it is an appropriate arrangement - bulk buying takes place that enables local governments, universities, charities, etc, to come in under that buying banner - Mr Kobelke: We know that; we have said that. Mr COURT: Approximately half of the $45m goes out in those sorts of campaigns. The Opposition is consistently using a $90m figure, and I am saying - Mr Kobelke: That is right. Mr COURT: I have just said it is $45m. There is a big difference between $45m and $90m. Mr Kobelke: You are trying to redefine what advertising is - more smart talk - instead of actually giving the figures. Mr COURT: I am talking about the contracts, and I just gave the actual figures. Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr COURT: No. On average, it is half of that - $45m a year. We have said before to the Opposition, "You have got the $90m figure wrong. How about getting it right?" The Opposition has said it will fund the extra police from the savings in the $90m a year advertising budget. I will provide the accurate the figures. The campaign advertising contract is estimated to be $112m over four years. Mr Kobelke: Two years. Mr COURT: Four years, I said. Mr Kobelke: Two years is what the contract is let for. Dr Gallop: We have a copy of the contract. Mr COURT: It is a two-year contract, with a two-year option. This is what the Opposition has trouble understanding. Mr Kobelke: It will be another $112m next year if you renew the contract. Mr COURT: No. It is $112m over a four-year period. The non-campaign advertising contract is estimated to be $48m over a four-year period. The actual figures are 1997-98, $39.4m; 1998-99, $43.3m; and 1999-2000, approximately $45m. About half of that money is not spent by government departments, because, as the Opposition knows, in an arrangement that the previous Labor Government put together - it is an appropriate arrangement - bulk buying takes place that enables local governments, universities, charities, etc, to come in under that buying banner - Mr Kobelke: We know that; we have said that. Mr COURT: Approximately half of the $45m goes out in those sorts of campaigns. The Opposition is consistently using a $90m figure, and I am saying - Mr Kobelke: That is right. Mr COURT: I have just said it is $45m. There is a big difference between $45m and $90m. Mr Kobelke: You are trying to redefine what advertising is - more smart talk - instead of actually giving the figures. Mr COURT: I am talking about the contracts, and I just gave the actual figures. Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr Kobelke: Two years. Mr COURT: Four years, I said. Mr Kobelke: Two years is what the contract is let for. Dr Gallop: We have a copy of the contract. Mr COURT: It is a two-year contract, with a two-year option. This is what the Opposition has trouble understanding. Mr Kobelke: It will be another $112m next year if you renew the contract. Mr COURT: No. It is $112m over a four-year period. The non-campaign advertising contract is estimated to be $48m over a four-year period. The actual figures are 1997-98, $39.4m; 1998-99, $43.3m; and 1999-2000, approximately $45m. About half of that money is not spent by government departments, because, as the Opposition knows, in an arrangement that the previous Labor Government put together - it is an appropriate arrangement - bulk buying takes place that enables local governments, universities, charities, etc, to come in under that buying banner - Mr Kobelke: We know that; we have said that. Mr COURT: Approximately half of the $45m goes out in those sorts of campaigns. The Opposition is consistently using a $90m figure, and I am saying - Mr Kobelke: That is right. Mr COURT: I have just said it is $45m. There is a big difference between $45m and $90m. Mr Kobelke: You are trying to redefine what advertising is - more smart talk - instead of actually giving the figures. Mr COURT: I am talking about the contracts, and I just gave the actual figures. Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr COURT: Four years, I said. Mr Kobelke: Two years is what the contract is let for. Dr Gallop: We have a copy of the contract. Mr COURT: It is a two-year contract, with a two-year option. This is what the Opposition has trouble understanding. Mr Kobelke: It will be another $112m next year if you renew the contract. Mr COURT: No. It is $112m over a four-year period. The non-campaign advertising contract is estimated to be $48m over a four-year period. The actual figures are 1997-98, $39.4m; 1998-99, $43.3m; and 1999-2000, approximately $45m. About half of that money is not spent by government departments, because, as the Opposition knows, in an arrangement that the previous Labor Government put together - it is an appropriate arrangement - bulk buying takes place that enables local governments, universities, charities, etc, to come in under that buying banner - Mr Kobelke: We know that; we have said that. Mr COURT: Approximately half of the $45m goes out in those sorts of campaigns. The Opposition is consistently using a $90m figure, and I am saying - Mr Kobelke: That is right. Mr COURT: I have just said it is $45m. There is a big difference between $45m and $90m. Mr Kobelke: You are trying to redefine what advertising is - more smart talk - instead of actually giving the figures. Mr COURT: I am talking about the contracts, and I just gave the actual figures. Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr Kobelke: Two years is what the contract is let for. Dr Gallop: We have a copy of the contract. Mr COURT: It is a two-year contract, with a two-year option. This is what the Opposition has trouble understanding. Mr Kobelke: It will be another $112m next year if you renew the contract. Mr COURT: No. It is $112m over a four-year period. The non-campaign advertising contract is estimated to be $48m over a four-year period. The actual figures are 1997-98, $39.4m; 1998-99, $43.3m; and 1999-2000, approximately $45m. About half of that money is not spent by government departments, because, as the Opposition knows, in an arrangement that the previous Labor Government put together - it is an appropriate arrangement - bulk buying takes place that enables local governments, universities, charities, etc, to come in under that buying banner - Mr Kobelke: We know that; we have said that. Mr COURT: Approximately half of the $45m goes out in those sorts of campaigns. The Opposition is consistently using a $90m figure, and I am saying - Mr Kobelke: That is right. Mr COURT: I have just said it is $45m. There is a big difference between $45m and $90m. Mr Kobelke: You are trying to redefine what advertising is - more smart talk - instead of actually giving the figures. Mr COURT: I am talking about the contracts, and I just gave the actual figures. Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Dr Gallop: We have a copy of the contract. Mr COURT: It is a two-year contract, with a two-year option. This is what the Opposition has trouble understanding. Mr Kobelke: It will be another $112m next year if you renew the contract. Mr COURT: No. It is $112m over a four-year period. The non-campaign advertising contract is estimated to be $48m over a four-year period. The actual figures are 1997-98, $39.4m; 1998-99, $43.3m; and 1999-2000, approximately $45m. About half of that money is not spent by government departments, because, as the Opposition knows, in an arrangement that the previous Labor Government put together - it is an appropriate arrangement - bulk buying takes place that enables local governments, universities, charities, etc, to come in under that buying banner - Mr Kobelke: We know that; we have said that. Mr COURT: Approximately half of the $45m goes out in those sorts of campaigns. The Opposition is consistently using a $90m figure, and I am saying - Mr Kobelke: That is right. Mr COURT: I have just said it is $45m. There is a big difference between $45m and $90m. Mr Kobelke: You are trying to redefine what advertising is - more smart talk - instead of actually giving the figures. Mr COURT: I am talking about the contracts, and I just gave the actual figures. Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr COURT: It is a two-year contract, with a two-year option. This is what the Opposition has trouble understanding. Mr Kobelke: It will be another $112m next year if you renew the contract. Mr COURT: No. It is $112m over a four-year period. The non-campaign advertising contract is estimated to be $48m over a four-year period. The actual figures are 1997-98, $39.4m; 1998-99, $43.3m; and 1999-2000, approximately $45m. About half of that money is not spent by government departments, because, as the Opposition knows, in an arrangement that the previous Labor Government put together - it is an appropriate arrangement - bulk buying takes place that enables local governments, universities, charities, etc, to come in under that buying banner - Mr Kobelke: We know that; we have said that. Mr COURT: Approximately half of the $45m goes out in those sorts of campaigns. The Opposition is consistently using a $90m figure, and I am saying - Mr Kobelke: That is right. Mr COURT: I have just said it is $45m. There is a big difference between $45m and $90m. Mr Kobelke: You are trying to redefine what advertising is - more smart talk - instead of actually giving the figures. Mr COURT: I am talking about the contracts, and I just gave the actual figures. Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr Kobelke: It will be another $112m next year if you renew the contract. Mr COURT: No. It is $112m over a four-year period. The non-campaign advertising contract is estimated to be $48m over a four-year period. The actual figures are 1997-98, $39.4m; 1998-99, $43.3m; and 1999-2000, approximately $45m. About half of that money is not spent by government departments, because, as the Opposition knows, in an arrangement that the previous Labor Government put together - it is an appropriate arrangement - bulk buying takes place that enables local governments, universities, charities, etc, to come in under that buying banner - Mr Kobelke: We know that; we have said that. Mr COURT: Approximately half of the $45m goes out in those sorts of campaigns. The Opposition is consistently using a $90m figure, and I am saying - Mr Kobelke: That is right. Mr COURT: I have just said it is $45m. There is a big difference between $45m and $90m. Mr Kobelke: You are trying to redefine what advertising is - more smart talk - instead of actually giving the figures. Mr COURT: I am talking about the contracts, and I just gave the actual figures. Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr COURT: No. It is $112m over a four-year period. The non-campaign advertising contract is estimated to be $48m over a four-year period. The actual figures are 1997-98, $39.4m; 1998-99, $43.3m; and 1999-2000, approximately $45m. About half of that money is not spent by government departments, because, as the Opposition knows, in an arrangement that the previous Labor Government put together - it is an appropriate arrangement - bulk buying takes place that enables local governments, universities, charities, etc, to come in under that buying banner - Mr Kobelke: We know that; we have said that. Mr COURT: Approximately half of the $45m goes out in those sorts of campaigns. The Opposition is consistently using a $90m figure, and I am saying - Mr Kobelke: That is right. Mr COURT: I have just said it is $45m. There is a big difference between $45m and $90m. Mr Kobelke: You are trying to redefine what advertising is - more smart talk - instead of actually giving the figures. Mr COURT: I am talking about the contracts, and I just gave the actual figures. Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr Kobelke: We know that; we have said that. Mr COURT: Approximately half of the $45m goes out in those sorts of campaigns. The Opposition is consistently using a $90m figure, and I am saying - Mr Kobelke: That is right. Mr COURT: I have just said it is $45m. There is a big difference between $45m and $90m. Mr Kobelke: You are trying to redefine what advertising is - more smart talk - instead of actually giving the figures. Mr COURT: I am talking about the contracts, and I just gave the actual figures. Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr COURT: Approximately half of the $45m goes out in those sorts of campaigns. The Opposition is consistently using a $90m figure, and I am saying - Mr Kobelke: That is right. Mr COURT: I have just said it is $45m. There is a big difference between $45m and $90m. Mr Kobelke: You are trying to redefine what advertising is - more smart talk - instead of actually giving the figures. Mr COURT: I am talking about the contracts, and I just gave the actual figures. Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr Kobelke: That is right. Mr COURT: I have just said it is $45m. There is a big difference between $45m and $90m. Mr Kobelke: You are trying to redefine what advertising is - more smart talk - instead of actually giving the figures. Mr COURT: I am talking about the contracts, and I just gave the actual figures. Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr COURT: I have just said it is $45m. There is a big difference between $45m and $90m. Mr Kobelke: You are trying to redefine what advertising is - more smart talk - instead of actually giving the figures. Mr COURT: I am talking about the contracts, and I just gave the actual figures. Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr Kobelke: You are trying to redefine what advertising is - more smart talk - instead of actually giving the figures. Mr COURT: I am talking about the contracts, and I just gave the actual figures. Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr COURT: I am talking about the contracts, and I just gave the actual figures. Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr COURT replied: Last week, once again, the Leader of the Opposition said that we had contracted to spend $90m a year on advertising. Mr Kobelke: On average. Mr COURT: No. On average, it is half of that - $45m a year. We have said before to the Opposition, "You have got the $90m figure wrong. How about getting it right?" The Opposition has said it will fund the extra police from the savings in the $90m a year advertising budget. I will provide the accurate the figures. The campaign advertising contract is estimated to be $112m over four years. Mr Kobelke: Two years. Mr COURT: Four years, I said. Mr Kobelke: Two years is what the contract is let for. Dr Gallop: We have a copy of the contract. Mr COURT: It is a two-year contract, with a two-year option. This is what the Opposition has trouble understanding. Mr Kobelke: It will be another $112m next year if you renew the contract. Mr COURT: No. It is $112m over a four-year period. The non-campaign advertising contract is estimated to be $48m over a four-year period. The actual figures are 1997-98, $39.4m; 1998-99, $43.3m; and 1999-2000, approximately $45m. About half of that money is not spent by government departments, because, as the Opposition knows, in an arrangement that the previous Labor Government put together - it is an appropriate arrangement - bulk buying takes place that enables local governments, universities, charities, etc, to come in under that buying banner - Mr Kobelke: We know that; we have said that. Mr COURT: Approximately half of the $45m goes out in those sorts of campaigns. The Opposition is consistently using a $90m figure, and I am saying - Mr Kobelke: That is right. Mr COURT: I have just said it is $45m. There is a big difference between $45m and $90m. Mr Kobelke: You are trying to redefine what advertising is - more smart talk - instead of actually giving the figures. Mr COURT: I am talking about the contracts, and I just gave the actual figures. Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Last week, once again, the Leader of the Opposition said that we had contracted to spend $90m a year on advertising. Mr Kobelke: On average. Mr COURT: No. On average, it is half of that - $45m a year. We have said before to the Opposition, "You have got the $90m figure wrong. How about getting it right?" The Opposition has said it will fund the extra police from the savings in the $90m a year advertising budget. I will provide the accurate the figures. The campaign advertising contract is estimated to be $112m over four years. Mr Kobelke: Two years. Mr COURT: Four years, I said. Mr Kobelke: Two years is what the contract is let for. Dr Gallop: We have a copy of the contract. Mr COURT: It is a two-year contract, with a two-year option. This is what the Opposition has trouble understanding. Mr Kobelke: It will be another $112m next year if you renew the contract. Mr COURT: No. It is $112m over a four-year period. The non-campaign advertising contract is estimated to be $48m over a four-year period. The actual figures are 1997-98, $39.4m; 1998-99, $43.3m; and 1999-2000, approximately $45m. About half of that money is not spent by government departments, because, as the Opposition knows, in an arrangement that the previous Labor Government put together - it is an appropriate arrangement - bulk buying takes place that enables local governments, universities, charities, etc, to come in under that buying banner - Mr Kobelke: We know that; we have said that. Mr COURT: Approximately half of the $45m goes out in those sorts of campaigns. The Opposition is consistently using a $90m figure, and I am saying - Mr Kobelke: That is right. Mr COURT: I have just said it is $45m. There is a big difference between $45m and $90m. Mr Kobelke: You are trying to redefine what advertising is - more smart talk - instead of actually giving the figures. Mr COURT: I am talking about the contracts, and I just gave the actual figures. Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr Kobelke: On average. Mr COURT: No. On average, it is half of that - $45m a year. We have said before to the Opposition, "You have got the $90m figure wrong. How about getting it right?" The Opposition has said it will fund the extra police from the savings in the $90m a year advertising budget. I will provide the accurate the figures. The campaign advertising contract is estimated to be $112m over four years. Mr Kobelke: Two years. Mr COURT: Four years, I said. Mr Kobelke: Two years is what the contract is let for. Dr Gallop: We have a copy of the contract. Mr COURT: It is a two-year contract, with a two-year option. This is what the Opposition has trouble understanding. Mr Kobelke: It will be another $112m next year if you renew the contract. Mr COURT: No. It is $112m over a four-year period. The non-campaign advertising contract is estimated to be $48m over a four-year period. The actual figures are 1997-98, $39.4m; 1998-99, $43.3m; and 1999-2000, approximately $45m. About half of that money is not spent by government departments, because, as the Opposition knows, in an arrangement that the previous Labor Government put together - it is an appropriate arrangement - bulk buying takes place that enables local governments, universities, charities, etc, to come in under that buying banner - Mr Kobelke: We know that; we have said that. Mr COURT: Approximately half of the $45m goes out in those sorts of campaigns. The Opposition is consistently using a $90m figure, and I am saying - Mr Kobelke: That is right. Mr COURT: I have just said it is $45m. There is a big difference between $45m and $90m. Mr Kobelke: You are trying to redefine what advertising is - more smart talk - instead of actually giving the figures. Mr COURT: I am talking about the contracts, and I just gave the actual figures. Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr COURT: No. On average, it is half of that - $45m a year. We have said before to the Opposition, "You have got the $90m figure wrong. How about getting it right?" The Opposition has said it will fund the extra police from the savings in the $90m a year advertising budget. I will provide the accurate the figures. The campaign advertising contract is estimated to be $112m over four years. Mr Kobelke: Two years. Mr COURT: Four years, I said. Mr Kobelke: Two years is what the contract is let for. Dr Gallop: We have a copy of the contract. Mr COURT: It is a two-year contract, with a two-year option. This is what the Opposition has trouble understanding. Mr Kobelke: It will be another $112m next year if you renew the contract. Mr COURT: No. It is $112m over a four-year period. The non-campaign advertising contract is estimated to be $48m over a four-year period. The actual figures are 1997-98, $39.4m; 1998-99, $43.3m; and 1999-2000, approximately $45m. About half of that money is not spent by government departments, because, as the Opposition knows, in an arrangement that the previous Labor Government put together - it is an appropriate arrangement - bulk buying takes place that enables local governments, universities, charities, etc, to come in under that buying banner - Mr Kobelke: We know that; we have said that. Mr COURT: Approximately half of the $45m goes out in those sorts of campaigns. The Opposition is consistently using a $90m figure, and I am saying - Mr Kobelke: That is right. Mr COURT: I have just said it is $45m. There is a big difference between $45m and $90m. Mr Kobelke: You are trying to redefine what advertising is - more smart talk - instead of actually giving the figures. Mr COURT: I am talking about the contracts, and I just gave the actual figures. Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr Kobelke: Two years. Mr COURT: Four years, I said. Mr Kobelke: Two years is what the contract is let for. Dr Gallop: We have a copy of the contract. Mr COURT: It is a two-year contract, with a two-year option. This is what the Opposition has trouble understanding. Mr Kobelke: It will be another $112m next year if you renew the contract. Mr COURT: No. It is $112m over a four-year period. The non-campaign advertising contract is estimated to be $48m over a four-year period. The actual figures are 1997-98, $39.4m; 1998-99, $43.3m; and 1999-2000, approximately $45m. About half of that money is not spent by government departments, because, as the Opposition knows, in an arrangement that the previous Labor Government put together - it is an appropriate arrangement - bulk buying takes place that enables local governments, universities, charities, etc, to come in under that buying banner - Mr Kobelke: We know that; we have said that. Mr COURT: Approximately half of the $45m goes out in those sorts of campaigns. The Opposition is consistently using a $90m figure, and I am saying - Mr Kobelke: That is right. Mr COURT: I have just said it is $45m. There is a big difference between $45m and $90m. Mr Kobelke: You are trying to redefine what advertising is - more smart talk - instead of actually giving the figures. Mr COURT: I am talking about the contracts, and I just gave the actual figures. Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr COURT: Four years, I said. Mr Kobelke: Two years is what the contract is let for. Dr Gallop: We have a copy of the contract. Mr COURT: It is a two-year contract, with a two-year option. This is what the Opposition has trouble understanding. Mr Kobelke: It will be another $112m next year if you renew the contract. Mr COURT: No. It is $112m over a four-year period. The non-campaign advertising contract is estimated to be $48m over a four-year period. The actual figures are 1997-98, $39.4m; 1998-99, $43.3m; and 1999-2000, approximately $45m. About half of that money is not spent by government departments, because, as the Opposition knows, in an arrangement that the previous Labor Government put together - it is an appropriate arrangement - bulk buying takes place that enables local governments, universities, charities, etc, to come in under that buying banner - Mr Kobelke: We know that; we have said that. Mr COURT: Approximately half of the $45m goes out in those sorts of campaigns. The Opposition is consistently using a $90m figure, and I am saying - Mr Kobelke: That is right. Mr COURT: I have just said it is $45m. There is a big difference between $45m and $90m. Mr Kobelke: You are trying to redefine what advertising is - more smart talk - instead of actually giving the figures. Mr COURT: I am talking about the contracts, and I just gave the actual figures. Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr Kobelke: Two years is what the contract is let for. Dr Gallop: We have a copy of the contract. Mr COURT: It is a two-year contract, with a two-year option. This is what the Opposition has trouble understanding. Mr Kobelke: It will be another $112m next year if you renew the contract. Mr COURT: No. It is $112m over a four-year period. The non-campaign advertising contract is estimated to be $48m over a four-year period. The actual figures are 1997-98, $39.4m; 1998-99, $43.3m; and 1999-2000, approximately $45m. About half of that money is not spent by government departments, because, as the Opposition knows, in an arrangement that the previous Labor Government put together - it is an appropriate arrangement - bulk buying takes place that enables local governments, universities, charities, etc, to come in under that buying banner - Mr Kobelke: We know that; we have said that. Mr COURT: Approximately half of the $45m goes out in those sorts of campaigns. The Opposition is consistently using a $90m figure, and I am saying - Mr Kobelke: That is right. Mr COURT: I have just said it is $45m. There is a big difference between $45m and $90m. Mr Kobelke: You are trying to redefine what advertising is - more smart talk - instead of actually giving the figures. Mr COURT: I am talking about the contracts, and I just gave the actual figures. Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Dr Gallop: We have a copy of the contract. Mr COURT: It is a two-year contract, with a two-year option. This is what the Opposition has trouble understanding. Mr Kobelke: It will be another $112m next year if you renew the contract. Mr COURT: No. It is $112m over a four-year period. The non-campaign advertising contract is estimated to be $48m over a four-year period. The actual figures are 1997-98, $39.4m; 1998-99, $43.3m; and 1999-2000, approximately $45m. About half of that money is not spent by government departments, because, as the Opposition knows, in an arrangement that the previous Labor Government put together - it is an appropriate arrangement - bulk buying takes place that enables local governments, universities, charities, etc, to come in under that buying banner - Mr Kobelke: We know that; we have said that. Mr COURT: Approximately half of the $45m goes out in those sorts of campaigns. The Opposition is consistently using a $90m figure, and I am saying - Mr Kobelke: That is right. Mr COURT: I have just said it is $45m. There is a big difference between $45m and $90m. Mr Kobelke: You are trying to redefine what advertising is - more smart talk - instead of actually giving the figures. Mr COURT: I am talking about the contracts, and I just gave the actual figures. Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr COURT: It is a two-year contract, with a two-year option. This is what the Opposition has trouble understanding. Mr Kobelke: It will be another $112m next year if you renew the contract. Mr COURT: No. It is $112m over a four-year period. The non-campaign advertising contract is estimated to be $48m over a four-year period. The actual figures are 1997-98, $39.4m; 1998-99, $43.3m; and 1999-2000, approximately $45m. About half of that money is not spent by government departments, because, as the Opposition knows, in an arrangement that the previous Labor Government put together - it is an appropriate arrangement - bulk buying takes place that enables local governments, universities, charities, etc, to come in under that buying banner - Mr Kobelke: We know that; we have said that. Mr COURT: Approximately half of the $45m goes out in those sorts of campaigns. The Opposition is consistently using a $90m figure, and I am saying - Mr Kobelke: That is right. Mr COURT: I have just said it is $45m. There is a big difference between $45m and $90m. Mr Kobelke: You are trying to redefine what advertising is - more smart talk - instead of actually giving the figures. Mr COURT: I am talking about the contracts, and I just gave the actual figures. Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr Kobelke: It will be another $112m next year if you renew the contract. Mr COURT: No. It is $112m over a four-year period. The non-campaign advertising contract is estimated to be $48m over a four-year period. The actual figures are 1997-98, $39.4m; 1998-99, $43.3m; and 1999-2000, approximately $45m. About half of that money is not spent by government departments, because, as the Opposition knows, in an arrangement that the previous Labor Government put together - it is an appropriate arrangement - bulk buying takes place that enables local governments, universities, charities, etc, to come in under that buying banner - Mr Kobelke: We know that; we have said that. Mr COURT: Approximately half of the $45m goes out in those sorts of campaigns. The Opposition is consistently using a $90m figure, and I am saying - Mr Kobelke: That is right. Mr COURT: I have just said it is $45m. There is a big difference between $45m and $90m. Mr Kobelke: You are trying to redefine what advertising is - more smart talk - instead of actually giving the figures. Mr COURT: I am talking about the contracts, and I just gave the actual figures. Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr COURT: No. It is $112m over a four-year period. The non-campaign advertising contract is estimated to be $48m over a four-year period. The actual figures are 1997-98, $39.4m; 1998-99, $43.3m; and 1999-2000, approximately $45m. About half of that money is not spent by government departments, because, as the Opposition knows, in an arrangement that the previous Labor Government put together - it is an appropriate arrangement - bulk buying takes place that enables local governments, universities, charities, etc, to come in under that buying banner - Mr Kobelke: We know that; we have said that. Mr COURT: Approximately half of the $45m goes out in those sorts of campaigns. The Opposition is consistently using a $90m figure, and I am saying - Mr Kobelke: That is right. Mr COURT: I have just said it is $45m. There is a big difference between $45m and $90m. Mr Kobelke: You are trying to redefine what advertising is - more smart talk - instead of actually giving the figures. Mr COURT: I am talking about the contracts, and I just gave the actual figures. Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr Kobelke: We know that; we have said that. Mr COURT: Approximately half of the $45m goes out in those sorts of campaigns. The Opposition is consistently using a $90m figure, and I am saying - Mr Kobelke: That is right. Mr COURT: I have just said it is $45m. There is a big difference between $45m and $90m. Mr Kobelke: You are trying to redefine what advertising is - more smart talk - instead of actually giving the figures. Mr COURT: I am talking about the contracts, and I just gave the actual figures. Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr COURT: Approximately half of the $45m goes out in those sorts of campaigns. The Opposition is consistently using a $90m figure, and I am saying - Mr Kobelke: That is right. Mr COURT: I have just said it is $45m. There is a big difference between $45m and $90m. Mr Kobelke: You are trying to redefine what advertising is - more smart talk - instead of actually giving the figures. Mr COURT: I am talking about the contracts, and I just gave the actual figures. Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr Kobelke: That is right. Mr COURT: I have just said it is $45m. There is a big difference between $45m and $90m. Mr Kobelke: You are trying to redefine what advertising is - more smart talk - instead of actually giving the figures. Mr COURT: I am talking about the contracts, and I just gave the actual figures. Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr COURT: I have just said it is $45m. There is a big difference between $45m and $90m. Mr Kobelke: You are trying to redefine what advertising is - more smart talk - instead of actually giving the figures. Mr COURT: I am talking about the contracts, and I just gave the actual figures. Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr Kobelke: You are trying to redefine what advertising is - more smart talk - instead of actually giving the figures. Mr COURT: I am talking about the contracts, and I just gave the actual figures. Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr COURT: I am talking about the contracts, and I just gave the actual figures. Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr Kobelke: It is for two years, because it rolls over. Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr COURT: I said it is a four-year contract. Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr Kobelke: The CAMS document on the Internet says it is a two-year contract. Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr COURT: Yes, and there is a two-year option. Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr Kobelke: Yes, and it will be more money when you renew the option. Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr COURT: No. It is $90m for two years; and if we divide $90m by two, we get $45m. That is what I am trying to explain. The Opposition has got this magical additional $45m, of which it is spending quite a bit, but before it spends too much of it - Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Dr Gallop: We are setting the agenda in Western Australian politics. Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr COURT: Setting the agenda by telling an untruth about the figure? Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Dr Gallop: We are cutting back your waste and using the funds to address real need. Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr COURT: The Leader of the Opposition is saying we spend $90m a year, when we spend $45m. Does he understand that? Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr Kobelke: Are your consultants included in that? Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr COURT: Consultants? Does advertising now involve consultants? Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr Kobelke: Public relations consultants are involved in advertising. Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
Mr COURT: Now he is trying to get out of it! If the Leader of the Opposition cannot tell it straight on those financial matters, how can he have credibility on any financial matters? I suggest he check the figures. While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
While we are on the issue of advertising, the Liberal Party in Western Australia has its advertising carried out by a Western Australian agency, and we use Western Australian creativity. Where is the loyalty of the Labor Party? Its advertising goes east.
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