Hon. Norman Moore questions Hon. Tom Stephens about his Carnarvon visit, specifically travel details and companions. Stephens provides details, leading to interjections and a heated exchange.

AnsweredQoN 1360Legislative Council
Asked
8 May 2002
Portfolio
Local Government and Regional Development

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CARNARVON VISIT 1360. Hon NORMAN MOORE to the Minister for Local Government and Regional Development: I refer the minister to his visit to Carnarvon last Sunday. (1) How and at what time did he travel to and from Carnarvon? (2) Who accompanied the minister on the aircraft on the journey to and from Carnarvon? Hon TOM STEPHENS

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(1)-(2) I travelled by plane to Carnarvon in the morning because I had a commitment with the Australian Institute of Building the night before. I travelled to Carnarvon with an officer from the Department of Local Government and Regional Development, Hon Jon Ford and someone from the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Commission. I think there were four people on the plane to Carnarvon and they were also present on the return journey in the afternoon. In Carnarvon I met with the Carnarvon growers who were involved in the Sweeter Banana Company and announced the provision of $120 000 under the regional investment fund to construct a packaging shed. After that meeting I met some young leaders and attended a most extraordinary meeting held by the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure, Ms MacTiernan. It was the most superb public meeting with the pastoral industry that I have attended. It was completely and utterly - Hon Norman Moore: Nobody disagrees with her performance. It is you whom we are concerned about. Hon TOM STEPHENS: Mark Chmielewski from the Minister for Agriculture’s office was also present on the return journey. I understand that members of the Liberal and National Parties have asked to accompany me on a visit to Carnarvon for a meeting with the National Farmers Federation in a couple of weeks time. I gather that there is some difficulty with that because I must first go to Kununurra. If that is what the Leader of the Opposition is complaining about, I am happy, wherever possible - Hon Norman Moore: I asked who accompanied you on the way back from Carnarvon and when you came back. Hon TOM STEPHENS: We left in the afternoon at about four o’clock. We left at about the same time that the Leader of the Opposition and Hon George Cash left the conference. Hon Norman Moore: I am asking who accompanied you on the aircraft. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have given the names to the Leader of the Opposition. They were the people who travelled to Carnarvon with me. Did I miss anyone? I would like to get it right. The people on that flight were me, a representative from ATSIC, Hon Jon Ford, Mark Chmielewski from the Minister for Agriculture’s office and an officer from the Department of Local Government and Regional Development. I cannot remember the name of the officer who was seated on the other side of that seat. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: What a stupid question. Do you ask the name of every person you go on a plane with? The PRESIDENT: Order! I am sure the minister does not need assistance. He is grappling with the answer already. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have noticed that Hon Norman Moore, the Leader of the Opposition, has a severe case of what is called government envy. He cannot get over the fact that he lost his job. He used to treat us with complete contempt when he was in government. I endeavour to be kind and generous to the Opposition. The advocacy I get for being kind and generous - Hon Norman Moore interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: If I had done what the Leader of the Opposition did last night, I would have resigned or been sacked. The Leader of the Opposition should either have resigned or been sacked. The final part of the answer to the question asked by the Leader of the Opposition is that it was an officer from the Premier’s office.
CARNARVON VISIT
I refer the minister to his visit to Carnarvon last Sunday. (1) How and at what time did he travel to and from Carnarvon? (2) Who accompanied the minister on the aircraft on the journey to and from Carnarvon? Hon TOM STEPHENS replied: (1)-(2) I travelled by plane to Carnarvon in the morning because I had a commitment with the Australian Institute of Building the night before. I travelled to Carnarvon with an officer from the Department of Local Government and Regional Development, Hon Jon Ford and someone from the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Commission. I think there were four people on the plane to Carnarvon and they were also present on the return journey in the afternoon. In Carnarvon I met with the Carnarvon growers who were involved in the Sweeter Banana Company and announced the provision of $120 000 under the regional investment fund to construct a packaging shed. After that meeting I met some young leaders and attended a most extraordinary meeting held by the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure, Ms MacTiernan. It was the most superb public meeting with the pastoral industry that I have attended. It was completely and utterly - Hon Norman Moore: Nobody disagrees with her performance. It is you whom we are concerned about. Hon TOM STEPHENS: Mark Chmielewski from the Minister for Agriculture’s office was also present on the return journey. I understand that members of the Liberal and National Parties have asked to accompany me on a visit to Carnarvon for a meeting with the National Farmers Federation in a couple of weeks time. I gather that there is some difficulty with that because I must first go to Kununurra. If that is what the Leader of the Opposition is complaining about, I am happy, wherever possible - Hon Norman Moore: I asked who accompanied you on the way back from Carnarvon and when you came back. Hon TOM STEPHENS: We left in the afternoon at about four o’clock. We left at about the same time that the Leader of the Opposition and Hon George Cash left the conference. Hon Norman Moore: I am asking who accompanied you on the aircraft. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have given the names to the Leader of the Opposition. They were the people who travelled to Carnarvon with me. Did I miss anyone? I would like to get it right. The people on that flight were me, a representative from ATSIC, Hon Jon Ford, Mark Chmielewski from the Minister for Agriculture’s office and an officer from the Department of Local Government and Regional Development. I cannot remember the name of the officer who was seated on the other side of that seat. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: What a stupid question. Do you ask the name of every person you go on a plane with? The PRESIDENT: Order! I am sure the minister does not need assistance. He is grappling with the answer already. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have noticed that Hon Norman Moore, the Leader of the Opposition, has a severe case of what is called government envy. He cannot get over the fact that he lost his job. He used to treat us with complete contempt when he was in government. I endeavour to be kind and generous to the Opposition. The advocacy I get for being kind and generous - Hon Norman Moore interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: If I had done what the Leader of the Opposition did last night, I would have resigned or been sacked. The Leader of the Opposition should either have resigned or been sacked. The final part of the answer to the question asked by the Leader of the Opposition is that it was an officer from the Premier’s office.
(1) How and at what time did he travel to and from Carnarvon? (2) Who accompanied the minister on the aircraft on the journey to and from Carnarvon? Hon TOM STEPHENS replied: (1)-(2) I travelled by plane to Carnarvon in the morning because I had a commitment with the Australian Institute of Building the night before. I travelled to Carnarvon with an officer from the Department of Local Government and Regional Development, Hon Jon Ford and someone from the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Commission. I think there were four people on the plane to Carnarvon and they were also present on the return journey in the afternoon. In Carnarvon I met with the Carnarvon growers who were involved in the Sweeter Banana Company and announced the provision of $120 000 under the regional investment fund to construct a packaging shed. After that meeting I met some young leaders and attended a most extraordinary meeting held by the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure, Ms MacTiernan. It was the most superb public meeting with the pastoral industry that I have attended. It was completely and utterly - Hon Norman Moore: Nobody disagrees with her performance. It is you whom we are concerned about. Hon TOM STEPHENS: Mark Chmielewski from the Minister for Agriculture’s office was also present on the return journey. I understand that members of the Liberal and National Parties have asked to accompany me on a visit to Carnarvon for a meeting with the National Farmers Federation in a couple of weeks time. I gather that there is some difficulty with that because I must first go to Kununurra. If that is what the Leader of the Opposition is complaining about, I am happy, wherever possible - Hon Norman Moore: I asked who accompanied you on the way back from Carnarvon and when you came back. Hon TOM STEPHENS: We left in the afternoon at about four o’clock. We left at about the same time that the Leader of the Opposition and Hon George Cash left the conference. Hon Norman Moore: I am asking who accompanied you on the aircraft. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have given the names to the Leader of the Opposition. They were the people who travelled to Carnarvon with me. Did I miss anyone? I would like to get it right. The people on that flight were me, a representative from ATSIC, Hon Jon Ford, Mark Chmielewski from the Minister for Agriculture’s office and an officer from the Department of Local Government and Regional Development. I cannot remember the name of the officer who was seated on the other side of that seat. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: What a stupid question. Do you ask the name of every person you go on a plane with? The PRESIDENT: Order! I am sure the minister does not need assistance. He is grappling with the answer already. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have noticed that Hon Norman Moore, the Leader of the Opposition, has a severe case of what is called government envy. He cannot get over the fact that he lost his job. He used to treat us with complete contempt when he was in government. I endeavour to be kind and generous to the Opposition. The advocacy I get for being kind and generous - Hon Norman Moore interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: If I had done what the Leader of the Opposition did last night, I would have resigned or been sacked. The Leader of the Opposition should either have resigned or been sacked. The final part of the answer to the question asked by the Leader of the Opposition is that it was an officer from the Premier’s office.
(2) Who accompanied the minister on the aircraft on the journey to and from Carnarvon? Hon TOM STEPHENS replied: (1)-(2) I travelled by plane to Carnarvon in the morning because I had a commitment with the Australian Institute of Building the night before. I travelled to Carnarvon with an officer from the Department of Local Government and Regional Development, Hon Jon Ford and someone from the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Commission. I think there were four people on the plane to Carnarvon and they were also present on the return journey in the afternoon. In Carnarvon I met with the Carnarvon growers who were involved in the Sweeter Banana Company and announced the provision of $120 000 under the regional investment fund to construct a packaging shed. After that meeting I met some young leaders and attended a most extraordinary meeting held by the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure, Ms MacTiernan. It was the most superb public meeting with the pastoral industry that I have attended. It was completely and utterly - Hon Norman Moore: Nobody disagrees with her performance. It is you whom we are concerned about. Hon TOM STEPHENS: Mark Chmielewski from the Minister for Agriculture’s office was also present on the return journey. I understand that members of the Liberal and National Parties have asked to accompany me on a visit to Carnarvon for a meeting with the National Farmers Federation in a couple of weeks time. I gather that there is some difficulty with that because I must first go to Kununurra. If that is what the Leader of the Opposition is complaining about, I am happy, wherever possible - Hon Norman Moore: I asked who accompanied you on the way back from Carnarvon and when you came back. Hon TOM STEPHENS: We left in the afternoon at about four o’clock. We left at about the same time that the Leader of the Opposition and Hon George Cash left the conference. Hon Norman Moore: I am asking who accompanied you on the aircraft. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have given the names to the Leader of the Opposition. They were the people who travelled to Carnarvon with me. Did I miss anyone? I would like to get it right. The people on that flight were me, a representative from ATSIC, Hon Jon Ford, Mark Chmielewski from the Minister for Agriculture’s office and an officer from the Department of Local Government and Regional Development. I cannot remember the name of the officer who was seated on the other side of that seat. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: What a stupid question. Do you ask the name of every person you go on a plane with? The PRESIDENT: Order! I am sure the minister does not need assistance. He is grappling with the answer already. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have noticed that Hon Norman Moore, the Leader of the Opposition, has a severe case of what is called government envy. He cannot get over the fact that he lost his job. He used to treat us with complete contempt when he was in government. I endeavour to be kind and generous to the Opposition. The advocacy I get for being kind and generous - Hon Norman Moore interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: If I had done what the Leader of the Opposition did last night, I would have resigned or been sacked. The Leader of the Opposition should either have resigned or been sacked. The final part of the answer to the question asked by the Leader of the Opposition is that it was an officer from the Premier’s office.
Hon TOM STEPHENS replied: (1)-(2) I travelled by plane to Carnarvon in the morning because I had a commitment with the Australian Institute of Building the night before. I travelled to Carnarvon with an officer from the Department of Local Government and Regional Development, Hon Jon Ford and someone from the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Commission. I think there were four people on the plane to Carnarvon and they were also present on the return journey in the afternoon. In Carnarvon I met with the Carnarvon growers who were involved in the Sweeter Banana Company and announced the provision of $120 000 under the regional investment fund to construct a packaging shed. After that meeting I met some young leaders and attended a most extraordinary meeting held by the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure, Ms MacTiernan. It was the most superb public meeting with the pastoral industry that I have attended. It was completely and utterly - Hon Norman Moore: Nobody disagrees with her performance. It is you whom we are concerned about. Hon TOM STEPHENS: Mark Chmielewski from the Minister for Agriculture’s office was also present on the return journey. I understand that members of the Liberal and National Parties have asked to accompany me on a visit to Carnarvon for a meeting with the National Farmers Federation in a couple of weeks time. I gather that there is some difficulty with that because I must first go to Kununurra. If that is what the Leader of the Opposition is complaining about, I am happy, wherever possible - Hon Norman Moore: I asked who accompanied you on the way back from Carnarvon and when you came back. Hon TOM STEPHENS: We left in the afternoon at about four o’clock. We left at about the same time that the Leader of the Opposition and Hon George Cash left the conference. Hon Norman Moore: I am asking who accompanied you on the aircraft. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have given the names to the Leader of the Opposition. They were the people who travelled to Carnarvon with me. Did I miss anyone? I would like to get it right. The people on that flight were me, a representative from ATSIC, Hon Jon Ford, Mark Chmielewski from the Minister for Agriculture’s office and an officer from the Department of Local Government and Regional Development. I cannot remember the name of the officer who was seated on the other side of that seat. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: What a stupid question. Do you ask the name of every person you go on a plane with? The PRESIDENT: Order! I am sure the minister does not need assistance. He is grappling with the answer already. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have noticed that Hon Norman Moore, the Leader of the Opposition, has a severe case of what is called government envy. He cannot get over the fact that he lost his job. He used to treat us with complete contempt when he was in government. I endeavour to be kind and generous to the Opposition. The advocacy I get for being kind and generous - Hon Norman Moore interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: If I had done what the Leader of the Opposition did last night, I would have resigned or been sacked. The Leader of the Opposition should either have resigned or been sacked. The final part of the answer to the question asked by the Leader of the Opposition is that it was an officer from the Premier’s office.
(1)-(2) I travelled by plane to Carnarvon in the morning because I had a commitment with the Australian Institute of Building the night before. I travelled to Carnarvon with an officer from the Department of Local Government and Regional Development, Hon Jon Ford and someone from the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Commission. I think there were four people on the plane to Carnarvon and they were also present on the return journey in the afternoon. In Carnarvon I met with the Carnarvon growers who were involved in the Sweeter Banana Company and announced the provision of $120 000 under the regional investment fund to construct a packaging shed. After that meeting I met some young leaders and attended a most extraordinary meeting held by the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure, Ms MacTiernan. It was the most superb public meeting with the pastoral industry that I have attended. It was completely and utterly - Hon Norman Moore: Nobody disagrees with her performance. It is you whom we are concerned about. Hon TOM STEPHENS: Mark Chmielewski from the Minister for Agriculture’s office was also present on the return journey. I understand that members of the Liberal and National Parties have asked to accompany me on a visit to Carnarvon for a meeting with the National Farmers Federation in a couple of weeks time. I gather that there is some difficulty with that because I must first go to Kununurra. If that is what the Leader of the Opposition is complaining about, I am happy, wherever possible - Hon Norman Moore: I asked who accompanied you on the way back from Carnarvon and when you came back. Hon TOM STEPHENS: We left in the afternoon at about four o’clock. We left at about the same time that the Leader of the Opposition and Hon George Cash left the conference. Hon Norman Moore: I am asking who accompanied you on the aircraft. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have given the names to the Leader of the Opposition. They were the people who travelled to Carnarvon with me. Did I miss anyone? I would like to get it right. The people on that flight were me, a representative from ATSIC, Hon Jon Ford, Mark Chmielewski from the Minister for Agriculture’s office and an officer from the Department of Local Government and Regional Development. I cannot remember the name of the officer who was seated on the other side of that seat. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: What a stupid question. Do you ask the name of every person you go on a plane with? The PRESIDENT: Order! I am sure the minister does not need assistance. He is grappling with the answer already. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have noticed that Hon Norman Moore, the Leader of the Opposition, has a severe case of what is called government envy. He cannot get over the fact that he lost his job. He used to treat us with complete contempt when he was in government. I endeavour to be kind and generous to the Opposition. The advocacy I get for being kind and generous - Hon Norman Moore interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: If I had done what the Leader of the Opposition did last night, I would have resigned or been sacked. The Leader of the Opposition should either have resigned or been sacked. The final part of the answer to the question asked by the Leader of the Opposition is that it was an officer from the Premier’s office.
Hon Norman Moore: Nobody disagrees with her performance. It is you whom we are concerned about. Hon TOM STEPHENS: Mark Chmielewski from the Minister for Agriculture’s office was also present on the return journey. I understand that members of the Liberal and National Parties have asked to accompany me on a visit to Carnarvon for a meeting with the National Farmers Federation in a couple of weeks time. I gather that there is some difficulty with that because I must first go to Kununurra. If that is what the Leader of the Opposition is complaining about, I am happy, wherever possible - Hon Norman Moore: I asked who accompanied you on the way back from Carnarvon and when you came back. Hon TOM STEPHENS: We left in the afternoon at about four o’clock. We left at about the same time that the Leader of the Opposition and Hon George Cash left the conference. Hon Norman Moore: I am asking who accompanied you on the aircraft. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have given the names to the Leader of the Opposition. They were the people who travelled to Carnarvon with me. Did I miss anyone? I would like to get it right. The people on that flight were me, a representative from ATSIC, Hon Jon Ford, Mark Chmielewski from the Minister for Agriculture’s office and an officer from the Department of Local Government and Regional Development. I cannot remember the name of the officer who was seated on the other side of that seat. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: What a stupid question. Do you ask the name of every person you go on a plane with? The PRESIDENT: Order! I am sure the minister does not need assistance. He is grappling with the answer already. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have noticed that Hon Norman Moore, the Leader of the Opposition, has a severe case of what is called government envy. He cannot get over the fact that he lost his job. He used to treat us with complete contempt when he was in government. I endeavour to be kind and generous to the Opposition. The advocacy I get for being kind and generous - Hon Norman Moore interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: If I had done what the Leader of the Opposition did last night, I would have resigned or been sacked. The Leader of the Opposition should either have resigned or been sacked. The final part of the answer to the question asked by the Leader of the Opposition is that it was an officer from the Premier’s office.
Hon TOM STEPHENS: Mark Chmielewski from the Minister for Agriculture’s office was also present on the return journey. I understand that members of the Liberal and National Parties have asked to accompany me on a visit to Carnarvon for a meeting with the National Farmers Federation in a couple of weeks time. I gather that there is some difficulty with that because I must first go to Kununurra. If that is what the Leader of the Opposition is complaining about, I am happy, wherever possible - Hon Norman Moore: I asked who accompanied you on the way back from Carnarvon and when you came back. Hon TOM STEPHENS: We left in the afternoon at about four o’clock. We left at about the same time that the Leader of the Opposition and Hon George Cash left the conference. Hon Norman Moore: I am asking who accompanied you on the aircraft. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have given the names to the Leader of the Opposition. They were the people who travelled to Carnarvon with me. Did I miss anyone? I would like to get it right. The people on that flight were me, a representative from ATSIC, Hon Jon Ford, Mark Chmielewski from the Minister for Agriculture’s office and an officer from the Department of Local Government and Regional Development. I cannot remember the name of the officer who was seated on the other side of that seat. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: What a stupid question. Do you ask the name of every person you go on a plane with? The PRESIDENT: Order! I am sure the minister does not need assistance. He is grappling with the answer already. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have noticed that Hon Norman Moore, the Leader of the Opposition, has a severe case of what is called government envy. He cannot get over the fact that he lost his job. He used to treat us with complete contempt when he was in government. I endeavour to be kind and generous to the Opposition. The advocacy I get for being kind and generous - Hon Norman Moore interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: If I had done what the Leader of the Opposition did last night, I would have resigned or been sacked. The Leader of the Opposition should either have resigned or been sacked. The final part of the answer to the question asked by the Leader of the Opposition is that it was an officer from the Premier’s office.
Hon Norman Moore: I asked who accompanied you on the way back from Carnarvon and when you came back. Hon TOM STEPHENS: We left in the afternoon at about four o’clock. We left at about the same time that the Leader of the Opposition and Hon George Cash left the conference. Hon Norman Moore: I am asking who accompanied you on the aircraft. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have given the names to the Leader of the Opposition. They were the people who travelled to Carnarvon with me. Did I miss anyone? I would like to get it right. The people on that flight were me, a representative from ATSIC, Hon Jon Ford, Mark Chmielewski from the Minister for Agriculture’s office and an officer from the Department of Local Government and Regional Development. I cannot remember the name of the officer who was seated on the other side of that seat. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: What a stupid question. Do you ask the name of every person you go on a plane with? The PRESIDENT: Order! I am sure the minister does not need assistance. He is grappling with the answer already. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have noticed that Hon Norman Moore, the Leader of the Opposition, has a severe case of what is called government envy. He cannot get over the fact that he lost his job. He used to treat us with complete contempt when he was in government. I endeavour to be kind and generous to the Opposition. The advocacy I get for being kind and generous - Hon Norman Moore interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: If I had done what the Leader of the Opposition did last night, I would have resigned or been sacked. The Leader of the Opposition should either have resigned or been sacked. The final part of the answer to the question asked by the Leader of the Opposition is that it was an officer from the Premier’s office.
Hon TOM STEPHENS: We left in the afternoon at about four o’clock. We left at about the same time that the Leader of the Opposition and Hon George Cash left the conference. Hon Norman Moore: I am asking who accompanied you on the aircraft. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have given the names to the Leader of the Opposition. They were the people who travelled to Carnarvon with me. Did I miss anyone? I would like to get it right. The people on that flight were me, a representative from ATSIC, Hon Jon Ford, Mark Chmielewski from the Minister for Agriculture’s office and an officer from the Department of Local Government and Regional Development. I cannot remember the name of the officer who was seated on the other side of that seat. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: What a stupid question. Do you ask the name of every person you go on a plane with? The PRESIDENT: Order! I am sure the minister does not need assistance. He is grappling with the answer already. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have noticed that Hon Norman Moore, the Leader of the Opposition, has a severe case of what is called government envy. He cannot get over the fact that he lost his job. He used to treat us with complete contempt when he was in government. I endeavour to be kind and generous to the Opposition. The advocacy I get for being kind and generous - Hon Norman Moore interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: If I had done what the Leader of the Opposition did last night, I would have resigned or been sacked. The Leader of the Opposition should either have resigned or been sacked. The final part of the answer to the question asked by the Leader of the Opposition is that it was an officer from the Premier’s office.
Hon Norman Moore: I am asking who accompanied you on the aircraft. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have given the names to the Leader of the Opposition. They were the people who travelled to Carnarvon with me. Did I miss anyone? I would like to get it right. The people on that flight were me, a representative from ATSIC, Hon Jon Ford, Mark Chmielewski from the Minister for Agriculture’s office and an officer from the Department of Local Government and Regional Development. I cannot remember the name of the officer who was seated on the other side of that seat. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: What a stupid question. Do you ask the name of every person you go on a plane with? The PRESIDENT: Order! I am sure the minister does not need assistance. He is grappling with the answer already. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have noticed that Hon Norman Moore, the Leader of the Opposition, has a severe case of what is called government envy. He cannot get over the fact that he lost his job. He used to treat us with complete contempt when he was in government. I endeavour to be kind and generous to the Opposition. The advocacy I get for being kind and generous - Hon Norman Moore interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: If I had done what the Leader of the Opposition did last night, I would have resigned or been sacked. The Leader of the Opposition should either have resigned or been sacked. The final part of the answer to the question asked by the Leader of the Opposition is that it was an officer from the Premier’s office.
Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have given the names to the Leader of the Opposition. They were the people who travelled to Carnarvon with me. Did I miss anyone? I would like to get it right. The people on that flight were me, a representative from ATSIC, Hon Jon Ford, Mark Chmielewski from the Minister for Agriculture’s office and an officer from the Department of Local Government and Regional Development. I cannot remember the name of the officer who was seated on the other side of that seat. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: What a stupid question. Do you ask the name of every person you go on a plane with? The PRESIDENT: Order! I am sure the minister does not need assistance. He is grappling with the answer already. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have noticed that Hon Norman Moore, the Leader of the Opposition, has a severe case of what is called government envy. He cannot get over the fact that he lost his job. He used to treat us with complete contempt when he was in government. I endeavour to be kind and generous to the Opposition. The advocacy I get for being kind and generous - Hon Norman Moore interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: If I had done what the Leader of the Opposition did last night, I would have resigned or been sacked. The Leader of the Opposition should either have resigned or been sacked. The final part of the answer to the question asked by the Leader of the Opposition is that it was an officer from the Premier’s office.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: What a stupid question. Do you ask the name of every person you go on a plane with? The PRESIDENT: Order! I am sure the minister does not need assistance. He is grappling with the answer already. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have noticed that Hon Norman Moore, the Leader of the Opposition, has a severe case of what is called government envy. He cannot get over the fact that he lost his job. He used to treat us with complete contempt when he was in government. I endeavour to be kind and generous to the Opposition. The advocacy I get for being kind and generous - Hon Norman Moore interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: If I had done what the Leader of the Opposition did last night, I would have resigned or been sacked. The Leader of the Opposition should either have resigned or been sacked. The final part of the answer to the question asked by the Leader of the Opposition is that it was an officer from the Premier’s office.
The PRESIDENT: Order! I am sure the minister does not need assistance. He is grappling with the answer already. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have noticed that Hon Norman Moore, the Leader of the Opposition, has a severe case of what is called government envy. He cannot get over the fact that he lost his job. He used to treat us with complete contempt when he was in government. I endeavour to be kind and generous to the Opposition. The advocacy I get for being kind and generous - Hon Norman Moore interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: If I had done what the Leader of the Opposition did last night, I would have resigned or been sacked. The Leader of the Opposition should either have resigned or been sacked. The final part of the answer to the question asked by the Leader of the Opposition is that it was an officer from the Premier’s office.
Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have noticed that Hon Norman Moore, the Leader of the Opposition, has a severe case of what is called government envy. He cannot get over the fact that he lost his job. He used to treat us with complete contempt when he was in government. I endeavour to be kind and generous to the Opposition. The advocacy I get for being kind and generous - Hon Norman Moore interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: If I had done what the Leader of the Opposition did last night, I would have resigned or been sacked. The Leader of the Opposition should either have resigned or been sacked. The final part of the answer to the question asked by the Leader of the Opposition is that it was an officer from the Premier’s office.
Hon Norman Moore interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: If I had done what the Leader of the Opposition did last night, I would have resigned or been sacked. The Leader of the Opposition should either have resigned or been sacked. The final part of the answer to the question asked by the Leader of the Opposition is that it was an officer from the Premier’s office.
The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon TOM STEPHENS: If I had done what the Leader of the Opposition did last night, I would have resigned or been sacked. The Leader of the Opposition should either have resigned or been sacked. The final part of the answer to the question asked by the Leader of the Opposition is that it was an officer from the Premier’s office.
Hon TOM STEPHENS: If I had done what the Leader of the Opposition did last night, I would have resigned or been sacked. The Leader of the Opposition should either have resigned or been sacked. The final part of the answer to the question asked by the Leader of the Opposition is that it was an officer from the Premier’s office.
The final part of the answer to the question asked by the Leader of the Opposition is that it was an officer from the Premier’s office.

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