❓ Question regarding the viability of the Geraldton Police and Community Youth Centre (PCYC). The Minister outlines steps taken, including addressing staffing and financial issues, emphasizing the PCYC's independent status.
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GERALDTON Police and Community Youth Centre
I refer to the comment made by the Premier six weeks ago that in a city such as Geraldton, the Police and Community Youth Centre is an essential part of the social infrastructure and an essential provider of opportunities for young kids. (1) Can the minister outline what concrete steps he has taken since that time to ensure the ongoing viability of the Geraldton PCYC? (2) Is the minister aware that there have been difficulties getting a police officer to work at the Geraldton PCYC? (3) What steps has the minister taken to resolve the issue? Mr R.F. JOHNSON
I refer to the comment made by the Premier six weeks ago that in a city such as Geraldton, the Police and Community Youth Centre is an essential part of the social infrastructure and an essential provider of opportunities for young kids. (1) Can the minister outline what concrete steps he has taken since that time to ensure the ongoing viability of the Geraldton PCYC? (2) Is the minister aware that there have been difficulties getting a police officer to work at the Geraldton PCYC? (3) What steps has the minister taken to resolve the issue? Mr R.F. JOHNSON
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(1)–(3) This question could almost be a dorothy dixer. Ms M.M. Quirk : Why didn’t the member for Geraldton ask it, then? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because the member for Geraldton has been asking me privately exactly what we are going to do about it, and I do not like dorothy dixers, as the member knows; I like the really hard questions that she asks! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. I am sure that the member for Girrawheen would like to hear the answer. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would like to give the member for Girrawheen the answer because I know that she is interested in this area. What have I done since the Premier brought this matter up? I have had a meeting with the Commissioner of Police. The problem that Geraldton PCYC was facing was twofold. Members must bear in mind that the commissioner wears two hats: one as the Commissioner of Police, and the other as the chairman of the PCYC incorporated association. Ms M.M. Quirk : He’s also the chief executive officer of your department. That’s a third hat. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he is not. The member should ask me a question about that, because I would love to come back to her on that. He is not a CEO. The member can ask me another question, perhaps as a supplementary question if she likes; that will be a good one for her! As I said, the commissioner wears two hats: one as the commissioner in charge of the police service and one as the chairman of the PCYC, which is an incorporated association. It is separate from WA Police. There is an understanding between both organisations that the only person who can be chairman of the PCYC is the Commissioner of Police; that is why he is chairman. I spoke to the commissioner about the problem, which was that the PCYC had run up some debts that it did not have the ability to pay and that it was without police officer involvement. I can tell members that the police commissioner told me at the time that it is not a position that he simply instructs somebody to go to. That is no good; he does not want to just send somebody there who does not want to go. He needs to have somebody who wants to go and work with young people, so he put out an expression of interest notice through the usual police computer system forum, and a police officer applied for that position—an officer who wanted to go and work at the Geraldton PCYC. That is exactly what is happening; that officer will be going to work in Geraldton with the PCYC. That is the first problem solved. The second problem is the financial problem. The police are not able to simply bail out a PCYC, but the commissioner and I are of the same opinion that the PCYC would not — Mr E.S. Ripper : You’ve got $1 billion extra in royalty revenues. You should be able to fix the Geraldton PCYC. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
(1) Can the minister outline what concrete steps he has taken since that time to ensure the ongoing viability of the Geraldton PCYC? (2) Is the minister aware that there have been difficulties getting a police officer to work at the Geraldton PCYC? (3) What steps has the minister taken to resolve the issue? Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(3) This question could almost be a dorothy dixer. Ms M.M. Quirk : Why didn’t the member for Geraldton ask it, then? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because the member for Geraldton has been asking me privately exactly what we are going to do about it, and I do not like dorothy dixers, as the member knows; I like the really hard questions that she asks! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. I am sure that the member for Girrawheen would like to hear the answer. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would like to give the member for Girrawheen the answer because I know that she is interested in this area. What have I done since the Premier brought this matter up? I have had a meeting with the Commissioner of Police. The problem that Geraldton PCYC was facing was twofold. Members must bear in mind that the commissioner wears two hats: one as the Commissioner of Police, and the other as the chairman of the PCYC incorporated association. Ms M.M. Quirk : He’s also the chief executive officer of your department. That’s a third hat. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he is not. The member should ask me a question about that, because I would love to come back to her on that. He is not a CEO. The member can ask me another question, perhaps as a supplementary question if she likes; that will be a good one for her! As I said, the commissioner wears two hats: one as the commissioner in charge of the police service and one as the chairman of the PCYC, which is an incorporated association. It is separate from WA Police. There is an understanding between both organisations that the only person who can be chairman of the PCYC is the Commissioner of Police; that is why he is chairman. I spoke to the commissioner about the problem, which was that the PCYC had run up some debts that it did not have the ability to pay and that it was without police officer involvement. I can tell members that the police commissioner told me at the time that it is not a position that he simply instructs somebody to go to. That is no good; he does not want to just send somebody there who does not want to go. He needs to have somebody who wants to go and work with young people, so he put out an expression of interest notice through the usual police computer system forum, and a police officer applied for that position—an officer who wanted to go and work at the Geraldton PCYC. That is exactly what is happening; that officer will be going to work in Geraldton with the PCYC. That is the first problem solved. The second problem is the financial problem. The police are not able to simply bail out a PCYC, but the commissioner and I are of the same opinion that the PCYC would not — Mr E.S. Ripper : You’ve got $1 billion extra in royalty revenues. You should be able to fix the Geraldton PCYC. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
(2) Is the minister aware that there have been difficulties getting a police officer to work at the Geraldton PCYC? (3) What steps has the minister taken to resolve the issue? Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(3) This question could almost be a dorothy dixer. Ms M.M. Quirk : Why didn’t the member for Geraldton ask it, then? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because the member for Geraldton has been asking me privately exactly what we are going to do about it, and I do not like dorothy dixers, as the member knows; I like the really hard questions that she asks! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. I am sure that the member for Girrawheen would like to hear the answer. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would like to give the member for Girrawheen the answer because I know that she is interested in this area. What have I done since the Premier brought this matter up? I have had a meeting with the Commissioner of Police. The problem that Geraldton PCYC was facing was twofold. Members must bear in mind that the commissioner wears two hats: one as the Commissioner of Police, and the other as the chairman of the PCYC incorporated association. Ms M.M. Quirk : He’s also the chief executive officer of your department. That’s a third hat. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he is not. The member should ask me a question about that, because I would love to come back to her on that. He is not a CEO. The member can ask me another question, perhaps as a supplementary question if she likes; that will be a good one for her! As I said, the commissioner wears two hats: one as the commissioner in charge of the police service and one as the chairman of the PCYC, which is an incorporated association. It is separate from WA Police. There is an understanding between both organisations that the only person who can be chairman of the PCYC is the Commissioner of Police; that is why he is chairman. I spoke to the commissioner about the problem, which was that the PCYC had run up some debts that it did not have the ability to pay and that it was without police officer involvement. I can tell members that the police commissioner told me at the time that it is not a position that he simply instructs somebody to go to. That is no good; he does not want to just send somebody there who does not want to go. He needs to have somebody who wants to go and work with young people, so he put out an expression of interest notice through the usual police computer system forum, and a police officer applied for that position—an officer who wanted to go and work at the Geraldton PCYC. That is exactly what is happening; that officer will be going to work in Geraldton with the PCYC. That is the first problem solved. The second problem is the financial problem. The police are not able to simply bail out a PCYC, but the commissioner and I are of the same opinion that the PCYC would not — Mr E.S. Ripper : You’ve got $1 billion extra in royalty revenues. You should be able to fix the Geraldton PCYC. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
(3) What steps has the minister taken to resolve the issue? Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(3) This question could almost be a dorothy dixer. Ms M.M. Quirk : Why didn’t the member for Geraldton ask it, then? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because the member for Geraldton has been asking me privately exactly what we are going to do about it, and I do not like dorothy dixers, as the member knows; I like the really hard questions that she asks! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. I am sure that the member for Girrawheen would like to hear the answer. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would like to give the member for Girrawheen the answer because I know that she is interested in this area. What have I done since the Premier brought this matter up? I have had a meeting with the Commissioner of Police. The problem that Geraldton PCYC was facing was twofold. Members must bear in mind that the commissioner wears two hats: one as the Commissioner of Police, and the other as the chairman of the PCYC incorporated association. Ms M.M. Quirk : He’s also the chief executive officer of your department. That’s a third hat. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he is not. The member should ask me a question about that, because I would love to come back to her on that. He is not a CEO. The member can ask me another question, perhaps as a supplementary question if she likes; that will be a good one for her! As I said, the commissioner wears two hats: one as the commissioner in charge of the police service and one as the chairman of the PCYC, which is an incorporated association. It is separate from WA Police. There is an understanding between both organisations that the only person who can be chairman of the PCYC is the Commissioner of Police; that is why he is chairman. I spoke to the commissioner about the problem, which was that the PCYC had run up some debts that it did not have the ability to pay and that it was without police officer involvement. I can tell members that the police commissioner told me at the time that it is not a position that he simply instructs somebody to go to. That is no good; he does not want to just send somebody there who does not want to go. He needs to have somebody who wants to go and work with young people, so he put out an expression of interest notice through the usual police computer system forum, and a police officer applied for that position—an officer who wanted to go and work at the Geraldton PCYC. That is exactly what is happening; that officer will be going to work in Geraldton with the PCYC. That is the first problem solved. The second problem is the financial problem. The police are not able to simply bail out a PCYC, but the commissioner and I are of the same opinion that the PCYC would not — Mr E.S. Ripper : You’ve got $1 billion extra in royalty revenues. You should be able to fix the Geraldton PCYC. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(3) This question could almost be a dorothy dixer. Ms M.M. Quirk : Why didn’t the member for Geraldton ask it, then? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because the member for Geraldton has been asking me privately exactly what we are going to do about it, and I do not like dorothy dixers, as the member knows; I like the really hard questions that she asks! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. I am sure that the member for Girrawheen would like to hear the answer. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would like to give the member for Girrawheen the answer because I know that she is interested in this area. What have I done since the Premier brought this matter up? I have had a meeting with the Commissioner of Police. The problem that Geraldton PCYC was facing was twofold. Members must bear in mind that the commissioner wears two hats: one as the Commissioner of Police, and the other as the chairman of the PCYC incorporated association. Ms M.M. Quirk : He’s also the chief executive officer of your department. That’s a third hat. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he is not. The member should ask me a question about that, because I would love to come back to her on that. He is not a CEO. The member can ask me another question, perhaps as a supplementary question if she likes; that will be a good one for her! As I said, the commissioner wears two hats: one as the commissioner in charge of the police service and one as the chairman of the PCYC, which is an incorporated association. It is separate from WA Police. There is an understanding between both organisations that the only person who can be chairman of the PCYC is the Commissioner of Police; that is why he is chairman. I spoke to the commissioner about the problem, which was that the PCYC had run up some debts that it did not have the ability to pay and that it was without police officer involvement. I can tell members that the police commissioner told me at the time that it is not a position that he simply instructs somebody to go to. That is no good; he does not want to just send somebody there who does not want to go. He needs to have somebody who wants to go and work with young people, so he put out an expression of interest notice through the usual police computer system forum, and a police officer applied for that position—an officer who wanted to go and work at the Geraldton PCYC. That is exactly what is happening; that officer will be going to work in Geraldton with the PCYC. That is the first problem solved. The second problem is the financial problem. The police are not able to simply bail out a PCYC, but the commissioner and I are of the same opinion that the PCYC would not — Mr E.S. Ripper : You’ve got $1 billion extra in royalty revenues. You should be able to fix the Geraldton PCYC. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
(1)–(3) This question could almost be a dorothy dixer. Ms M.M. Quirk : Why didn’t the member for Geraldton ask it, then? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because the member for Geraldton has been asking me privately exactly what we are going to do about it, and I do not like dorothy dixers, as the member knows; I like the really hard questions that she asks! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. I am sure that the member for Girrawheen would like to hear the answer. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would like to give the member for Girrawheen the answer because I know that she is interested in this area. What have I done since the Premier brought this matter up? I have had a meeting with the Commissioner of Police. The problem that Geraldton PCYC was facing was twofold. Members must bear in mind that the commissioner wears two hats: one as the Commissioner of Police, and the other as the chairman of the PCYC incorporated association. Ms M.M. Quirk : He’s also the chief executive officer of your department. That’s a third hat. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he is not. The member should ask me a question about that, because I would love to come back to her on that. He is not a CEO. The member can ask me another question, perhaps as a supplementary question if she likes; that will be a good one for her! As I said, the commissioner wears two hats: one as the commissioner in charge of the police service and one as the chairman of the PCYC, which is an incorporated association. It is separate from WA Police. There is an understanding between both organisations that the only person who can be chairman of the PCYC is the Commissioner of Police; that is why he is chairman. I spoke to the commissioner about the problem, which was that the PCYC had run up some debts that it did not have the ability to pay and that it was without police officer involvement. I can tell members that the police commissioner told me at the time that it is not a position that he simply instructs somebody to go to. That is no good; he does not want to just send somebody there who does not want to go. He needs to have somebody who wants to go and work with young people, so he put out an expression of interest notice through the usual police computer system forum, and a police officer applied for that position—an officer who wanted to go and work at the Geraldton PCYC. That is exactly what is happening; that officer will be going to work in Geraldton with the PCYC. That is the first problem solved. The second problem is the financial problem. The police are not able to simply bail out a PCYC, but the commissioner and I are of the same opinion that the PCYC would not — Mr E.S. Ripper : You’ve got $1 billion extra in royalty revenues. You should be able to fix the Geraldton PCYC. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Ms M.M. Quirk : Why didn’t the member for Geraldton ask it, then? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because the member for Geraldton has been asking me privately exactly what we are going to do about it, and I do not like dorothy dixers, as the member knows; I like the really hard questions that she asks! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. I am sure that the member for Girrawheen would like to hear the answer. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would like to give the member for Girrawheen the answer because I know that she is interested in this area. What have I done since the Premier brought this matter up? I have had a meeting with the Commissioner of Police. The problem that Geraldton PCYC was facing was twofold. Members must bear in mind that the commissioner wears two hats: one as the Commissioner of Police, and the other as the chairman of the PCYC incorporated association. Ms M.M. Quirk : He’s also the chief executive officer of your department. That’s a third hat. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he is not. The member should ask me a question about that, because I would love to come back to her on that. He is not a CEO. The member can ask me another question, perhaps as a supplementary question if she likes; that will be a good one for her! As I said, the commissioner wears two hats: one as the commissioner in charge of the police service and one as the chairman of the PCYC, which is an incorporated association. It is separate from WA Police. There is an understanding between both organisations that the only person who can be chairman of the PCYC is the Commissioner of Police; that is why he is chairman. I spoke to the commissioner about the problem, which was that the PCYC had run up some debts that it did not have the ability to pay and that it was without police officer involvement. I can tell members that the police commissioner told me at the time that it is not a position that he simply instructs somebody to go to. That is no good; he does not want to just send somebody there who does not want to go. He needs to have somebody who wants to go and work with young people, so he put out an expression of interest notice through the usual police computer system forum, and a police officer applied for that position—an officer who wanted to go and work at the Geraldton PCYC. That is exactly what is happening; that officer will be going to work in Geraldton with the PCYC. That is the first problem solved. The second problem is the financial problem. The police are not able to simply bail out a PCYC, but the commissioner and I are of the same opinion that the PCYC would not — Mr E.S. Ripper : You’ve got $1 billion extra in royalty revenues. You should be able to fix the Geraldton PCYC. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because the member for Geraldton has been asking me privately exactly what we are going to do about it, and I do not like dorothy dixers, as the member knows; I like the really hard questions that she asks! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. I am sure that the member for Girrawheen would like to hear the answer. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would like to give the member for Girrawheen the answer because I know that she is interested in this area. What have I done since the Premier brought this matter up? I have had a meeting with the Commissioner of Police. The problem that Geraldton PCYC was facing was twofold. Members must bear in mind that the commissioner wears two hats: one as the Commissioner of Police, and the other as the chairman of the PCYC incorporated association. Ms M.M. Quirk : He’s also the chief executive officer of your department. That’s a third hat. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he is not. The member should ask me a question about that, because I would love to come back to her on that. He is not a CEO. The member can ask me another question, perhaps as a supplementary question if she likes; that will be a good one for her! As I said, the commissioner wears two hats: one as the commissioner in charge of the police service and one as the chairman of the PCYC, which is an incorporated association. It is separate from WA Police. There is an understanding between both organisations that the only person who can be chairman of the PCYC is the Commissioner of Police; that is why he is chairman. I spoke to the commissioner about the problem, which was that the PCYC had run up some debts that it did not have the ability to pay and that it was without police officer involvement. I can tell members that the police commissioner told me at the time that it is not a position that he simply instructs somebody to go to. That is no good; he does not want to just send somebody there who does not want to go. He needs to have somebody who wants to go and work with young people, so he put out an expression of interest notice through the usual police computer system forum, and a police officer applied for that position—an officer who wanted to go and work at the Geraldton PCYC. That is exactly what is happening; that officer will be going to work in Geraldton with the PCYC. That is the first problem solved. The second problem is the financial problem. The police are not able to simply bail out a PCYC, but the commissioner and I are of the same opinion that the PCYC would not — Mr E.S. Ripper : You’ve got $1 billion extra in royalty revenues. You should be able to fix the Geraldton PCYC. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. I am sure that the member for Girrawheen would like to hear the answer. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would like to give the member for Girrawheen the answer because I know that she is interested in this area. What have I done since the Premier brought this matter up? I have had a meeting with the Commissioner of Police. The problem that Geraldton PCYC was facing was twofold. Members must bear in mind that the commissioner wears two hats: one as the Commissioner of Police, and the other as the chairman of the PCYC incorporated association. Ms M.M. Quirk : He’s also the chief executive officer of your department. That’s a third hat. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he is not. The member should ask me a question about that, because I would love to come back to her on that. He is not a CEO. The member can ask me another question, perhaps as a supplementary question if she likes; that will be a good one for her! As I said, the commissioner wears two hats: one as the commissioner in charge of the police service and one as the chairman of the PCYC, which is an incorporated association. It is separate from WA Police. There is an understanding between both organisations that the only person who can be chairman of the PCYC is the Commissioner of Police; that is why he is chairman. I spoke to the commissioner about the problem, which was that the PCYC had run up some debts that it did not have the ability to pay and that it was without police officer involvement. I can tell members that the police commissioner told me at the time that it is not a position that he simply instructs somebody to go to. That is no good; he does not want to just send somebody there who does not want to go. He needs to have somebody who wants to go and work with young people, so he put out an expression of interest notice through the usual police computer system forum, and a police officer applied for that position—an officer who wanted to go and work at the Geraldton PCYC. That is exactly what is happening; that officer will be going to work in Geraldton with the PCYC. That is the first problem solved. The second problem is the financial problem. The police are not able to simply bail out a PCYC, but the commissioner and I are of the same opinion that the PCYC would not — Mr E.S. Ripper : You’ve got $1 billion extra in royalty revenues. You should be able to fix the Geraldton PCYC. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. I am sure that the member for Girrawheen would like to hear the answer. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would like to give the member for Girrawheen the answer because I know that she is interested in this area. What have I done since the Premier brought this matter up? I have had a meeting with the Commissioner of Police. The problem that Geraldton PCYC was facing was twofold. Members must bear in mind that the commissioner wears two hats: one as the Commissioner of Police, and the other as the chairman of the PCYC incorporated association. Ms M.M. Quirk : He’s also the chief executive officer of your department. That’s a third hat. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he is not. The member should ask me a question about that, because I would love to come back to her on that. He is not a CEO. The member can ask me another question, perhaps as a supplementary question if she likes; that will be a good one for her! As I said, the commissioner wears two hats: one as the commissioner in charge of the police service and one as the chairman of the PCYC, which is an incorporated association. It is separate from WA Police. There is an understanding between both organisations that the only person who can be chairman of the PCYC is the Commissioner of Police; that is why he is chairman. I spoke to the commissioner about the problem, which was that the PCYC had run up some debts that it did not have the ability to pay and that it was without police officer involvement. I can tell members that the police commissioner told me at the time that it is not a position that he simply instructs somebody to go to. That is no good; he does not want to just send somebody there who does not want to go. He needs to have somebody who wants to go and work with young people, so he put out an expression of interest notice through the usual police computer system forum, and a police officer applied for that position—an officer who wanted to go and work at the Geraldton PCYC. That is exactly what is happening; that officer will be going to work in Geraldton with the PCYC. That is the first problem solved. The second problem is the financial problem. The police are not able to simply bail out a PCYC, but the commissioner and I are of the same opinion that the PCYC would not — Mr E.S. Ripper : You’ve got $1 billion extra in royalty revenues. You should be able to fix the Geraldton PCYC. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. I am sure that the member for Girrawheen would like to hear the answer. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would like to give the member for Girrawheen the answer because I know that she is interested in this area. What have I done since the Premier brought this matter up? I have had a meeting with the Commissioner of Police. The problem that Geraldton PCYC was facing was twofold. Members must bear in mind that the commissioner wears two hats: one as the Commissioner of Police, and the other as the chairman of the PCYC incorporated association. Ms M.M. Quirk : He’s also the chief executive officer of your department. That’s a third hat. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he is not. The member should ask me a question about that, because I would love to come back to her on that. He is not a CEO. The member can ask me another question, perhaps as a supplementary question if she likes; that will be a good one for her! As I said, the commissioner wears two hats: one as the commissioner in charge of the police service and one as the chairman of the PCYC, which is an incorporated association. It is separate from WA Police. There is an understanding between both organisations that the only person who can be chairman of the PCYC is the Commissioner of Police; that is why he is chairman. I spoke to the commissioner about the problem, which was that the PCYC had run up some debts that it did not have the ability to pay and that it was without police officer involvement. I can tell members that the police commissioner told me at the time that it is not a position that he simply instructs somebody to go to. That is no good; he does not want to just send somebody there who does not want to go. He needs to have somebody who wants to go and work with young people, so he put out an expression of interest notice through the usual police computer system forum, and a police officer applied for that position—an officer who wanted to go and work at the Geraldton PCYC. That is exactly what is happening; that officer will be going to work in Geraldton with the PCYC. That is the first problem solved. The second problem is the financial problem. The police are not able to simply bail out a PCYC, but the commissioner and I are of the same opinion that the PCYC would not — Mr E.S. Ripper : You’ve got $1 billion extra in royalty revenues. You should be able to fix the Geraldton PCYC. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. I am sure that the member for Girrawheen would like to hear the answer. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would like to give the member for Girrawheen the answer because I know that she is interested in this area. What have I done since the Premier brought this matter up? I have had a meeting with the Commissioner of Police. The problem that Geraldton PCYC was facing was twofold. Members must bear in mind that the commissioner wears two hats: one as the Commissioner of Police, and the other as the chairman of the PCYC incorporated association. Ms M.M. Quirk : He’s also the chief executive officer of your department. That’s a third hat. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he is not. The member should ask me a question about that, because I would love to come back to her on that. He is not a CEO. The member can ask me another question, perhaps as a supplementary question if she likes; that will be a good one for her! As I said, the commissioner wears two hats: one as the commissioner in charge of the police service and one as the chairman of the PCYC, which is an incorporated association. It is separate from WA Police. There is an understanding between both organisations that the only person who can be chairman of the PCYC is the Commissioner of Police; that is why he is chairman. I spoke to the commissioner about the problem, which was that the PCYC had run up some debts that it did not have the ability to pay and that it was without police officer involvement. I can tell members that the police commissioner told me at the time that it is not a position that he simply instructs somebody to go to. That is no good; he does not want to just send somebody there who does not want to go. He needs to have somebody who wants to go and work with young people, so he put out an expression of interest notice through the usual police computer system forum, and a police officer applied for that position—an officer who wanted to go and work at the Geraldton PCYC. That is exactly what is happening; that officer will be going to work in Geraldton with the PCYC. That is the first problem solved. The second problem is the financial problem. The police are not able to simply bail out a PCYC, but the commissioner and I are of the same opinion that the PCYC would not — Mr E.S. Ripper : You’ve got $1 billion extra in royalty revenues. You should be able to fix the Geraldton PCYC. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would like to give the member for Girrawheen the answer because I know that she is interested in this area. What have I done since the Premier brought this matter up? I have had a meeting with the Commissioner of Police. The problem that Geraldton PCYC was facing was twofold. Members must bear in mind that the commissioner wears two hats: one as the Commissioner of Police, and the other as the chairman of the PCYC incorporated association. Ms M.M. Quirk : He’s also the chief executive officer of your department. That’s a third hat. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he is not. The member should ask me a question about that, because I would love to come back to her on that. He is not a CEO. The member can ask me another question, perhaps as a supplementary question if she likes; that will be a good one for her! As I said, the commissioner wears two hats: one as the commissioner in charge of the police service and one as the chairman of the PCYC, which is an incorporated association. It is separate from WA Police. There is an understanding between both organisations that the only person who can be chairman of the PCYC is the Commissioner of Police; that is why he is chairman. I spoke to the commissioner about the problem, which was that the PCYC had run up some debts that it did not have the ability to pay and that it was without police officer involvement. I can tell members that the police commissioner told me at the time that it is not a position that he simply instructs somebody to go to. That is no good; he does not want to just send somebody there who does not want to go. He needs to have somebody who wants to go and work with young people, so he put out an expression of interest notice through the usual police computer system forum, and a police officer applied for that position—an officer who wanted to go and work at the Geraldton PCYC. That is exactly what is happening; that officer will be going to work in Geraldton with the PCYC. That is the first problem solved. The second problem is the financial problem. The police are not able to simply bail out a PCYC, but the commissioner and I are of the same opinion that the PCYC would not — Mr E.S. Ripper : You’ve got $1 billion extra in royalty revenues. You should be able to fix the Geraldton PCYC. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Ms M.M. Quirk : He’s also the chief executive officer of your department. That’s a third hat. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he is not. The member should ask me a question about that, because I would love to come back to her on that. He is not a CEO. The member can ask me another question, perhaps as a supplementary question if she likes; that will be a good one for her! As I said, the commissioner wears two hats: one as the commissioner in charge of the police service and one as the chairman of the PCYC, which is an incorporated association. It is separate from WA Police. There is an understanding between both organisations that the only person who can be chairman of the PCYC is the Commissioner of Police; that is why he is chairman. I spoke to the commissioner about the problem, which was that the PCYC had run up some debts that it did not have the ability to pay and that it was without police officer involvement. I can tell members that the police commissioner told me at the time that it is not a position that he simply instructs somebody to go to. That is no good; he does not want to just send somebody there who does not want to go. He needs to have somebody who wants to go and work with young people, so he put out an expression of interest notice through the usual police computer system forum, and a police officer applied for that position—an officer who wanted to go and work at the Geraldton PCYC. That is exactly what is happening; that officer will be going to work in Geraldton with the PCYC. That is the first problem solved. The second problem is the financial problem. The police are not able to simply bail out a PCYC, but the commissioner and I are of the same opinion that the PCYC would not — Mr E.S. Ripper : You’ve got $1 billion extra in royalty revenues. You should be able to fix the Geraldton PCYC. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he is not. The member should ask me a question about that, because I would love to come back to her on that. He is not a CEO. The member can ask me another question, perhaps as a supplementary question if she likes; that will be a good one for her! As I said, the commissioner wears two hats: one as the commissioner in charge of the police service and one as the chairman of the PCYC, which is an incorporated association. It is separate from WA Police. There is an understanding between both organisations that the only person who can be chairman of the PCYC is the Commissioner of Police; that is why he is chairman. I spoke to the commissioner about the problem, which was that the PCYC had run up some debts that it did not have the ability to pay and that it was without police officer involvement. I can tell members that the police commissioner told me at the time that it is not a position that he simply instructs somebody to go to. That is no good; he does not want to just send somebody there who does not want to go. He needs to have somebody who wants to go and work with young people, so he put out an expression of interest notice through the usual police computer system forum, and a police officer applied for that position—an officer who wanted to go and work at the Geraldton PCYC. That is exactly what is happening; that officer will be going to work in Geraldton with the PCYC. That is the first problem solved. The second problem is the financial problem. The police are not able to simply bail out a PCYC, but the commissioner and I are of the same opinion that the PCYC would not — Mr E.S. Ripper : You’ve got $1 billion extra in royalty revenues. You should be able to fix the Geraldton PCYC. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
As I said, the commissioner wears two hats: one as the commissioner in charge of the police service and one as the chairman of the PCYC, which is an incorporated association. It is separate from WA Police. There is an understanding between both organisations that the only person who can be chairman of the PCYC is the Commissioner of Police; that is why he is chairman. I spoke to the commissioner about the problem, which was that the PCYC had run up some debts that it did not have the ability to pay and that it was without police officer involvement. I can tell members that the police commissioner told me at the time that it is not a position that he simply instructs somebody to go to. That is no good; he does not want to just send somebody there who does not want to go. He needs to have somebody who wants to go and work with young people, so he put out an expression of interest notice through the usual police computer system forum, and a police officer applied for that position—an officer who wanted to go and work at the Geraldton PCYC. That is exactly what is happening; that officer will be going to work in Geraldton with the PCYC. That is the first problem solved. The second problem is the financial problem. The police are not able to simply bail out a PCYC, but the commissioner and I are of the same opinion that the PCYC would not — Mr E.S. Ripper : You’ve got $1 billion extra in royalty revenues. You should be able to fix the Geraldton PCYC. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
The second problem is the financial problem. The police are not able to simply bail out a PCYC, but the commissioner and I are of the same opinion that the PCYC would not — Mr E.S. Ripper : You’ve got $1 billion extra in royalty revenues. You should be able to fix the Geraldton PCYC. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Mr E.S. Ripper : You’ve got $1 billion extra in royalty revenues. You should be able to fix the Geraldton PCYC. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
(1) Can the minister outline what concrete steps he has taken since that time to ensure the ongoing viability of the Geraldton PCYC? (2) Is the minister aware that there have been difficulties getting a police officer to work at the Geraldton PCYC? (3) What steps has the minister taken to resolve the issue? Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(3) This question could almost be a dorothy dixer. Ms M.M. Quirk : Why didn’t the member for Geraldton ask it, then? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because the member for Geraldton has been asking me privately exactly what we are going to do about it, and I do not like dorothy dixers, as the member knows; I like the really hard questions that she asks! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. I am sure that the member for Girrawheen would like to hear the answer. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would like to give the member for Girrawheen the answer because I know that she is interested in this area. What have I done since the Premier brought this matter up? I have had a meeting with the Commissioner of Police. The problem that Geraldton PCYC was facing was twofold. Members must bear in mind that the commissioner wears two hats: one as the Commissioner of Police, and the other as the chairman of the PCYC incorporated association. Ms M.M. Quirk : He’s also the chief executive officer of your department. That’s a third hat. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he is not. The member should ask me a question about that, because I would love to come back to her on that. He is not a CEO. The member can ask me another question, perhaps as a supplementary question if she likes; that will be a good one for her! As I said, the commissioner wears two hats: one as the commissioner in charge of the police service and one as the chairman of the PCYC, which is an incorporated association. It is separate from WA Police. There is an understanding between both organisations that the only person who can be chairman of the PCYC is the Commissioner of Police; that is why he is chairman. I spoke to the commissioner about the problem, which was that the PCYC had run up some debts that it did not have the ability to pay and that it was without police officer involvement. I can tell members that the police commissioner told me at the time that it is not a position that he simply instructs somebody to go to. That is no good; he does not want to just send somebody there who does not want to go. He needs to have somebody who wants to go and work with young people, so he put out an expression of interest notice through the usual police computer system forum, and a police officer applied for that position—an officer who wanted to go and work at the Geraldton PCYC. That is exactly what is happening; that officer will be going to work in Geraldton with the PCYC. That is the first problem solved. The second problem is the financial problem. The police are not able to simply bail out a PCYC, but the commissioner and I are of the same opinion that the PCYC would not — Mr E.S. Ripper : You’ve got $1 billion extra in royalty revenues. You should be able to fix the Geraldton PCYC. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
(2) Is the minister aware that there have been difficulties getting a police officer to work at the Geraldton PCYC? (3) What steps has the minister taken to resolve the issue? Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(3) This question could almost be a dorothy dixer. Ms M.M. Quirk : Why didn’t the member for Geraldton ask it, then? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because the member for Geraldton has been asking me privately exactly what we are going to do about it, and I do not like dorothy dixers, as the member knows; I like the really hard questions that she asks! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. I am sure that the member for Girrawheen would like to hear the answer. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would like to give the member for Girrawheen the answer because I know that she is interested in this area. What have I done since the Premier brought this matter up? I have had a meeting with the Commissioner of Police. The problem that Geraldton PCYC was facing was twofold. Members must bear in mind that the commissioner wears two hats: one as the Commissioner of Police, and the other as the chairman of the PCYC incorporated association. Ms M.M. Quirk : He’s also the chief executive officer of your department. That’s a third hat. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he is not. The member should ask me a question about that, because I would love to come back to her on that. He is not a CEO. The member can ask me another question, perhaps as a supplementary question if she likes; that will be a good one for her! As I said, the commissioner wears two hats: one as the commissioner in charge of the police service and one as the chairman of the PCYC, which is an incorporated association. It is separate from WA Police. There is an understanding between both organisations that the only person who can be chairman of the PCYC is the Commissioner of Police; that is why he is chairman. I spoke to the commissioner about the problem, which was that the PCYC had run up some debts that it did not have the ability to pay and that it was without police officer involvement. I can tell members that the police commissioner told me at the time that it is not a position that he simply instructs somebody to go to. That is no good; he does not want to just send somebody there who does not want to go. He needs to have somebody who wants to go and work with young people, so he put out an expression of interest notice through the usual police computer system forum, and a police officer applied for that position—an officer who wanted to go and work at the Geraldton PCYC. That is exactly what is happening; that officer will be going to work in Geraldton with the PCYC. That is the first problem solved. The second problem is the financial problem. The police are not able to simply bail out a PCYC, but the commissioner and I are of the same opinion that the PCYC would not — Mr E.S. Ripper : You’ve got $1 billion extra in royalty revenues. You should be able to fix the Geraldton PCYC. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
(3) What steps has the minister taken to resolve the issue? Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(3) This question could almost be a dorothy dixer. Ms M.M. Quirk : Why didn’t the member for Geraldton ask it, then? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because the member for Geraldton has been asking me privately exactly what we are going to do about it, and I do not like dorothy dixers, as the member knows; I like the really hard questions that she asks! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. I am sure that the member for Girrawheen would like to hear the answer. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would like to give the member for Girrawheen the answer because I know that she is interested in this area. What have I done since the Premier brought this matter up? I have had a meeting with the Commissioner of Police. The problem that Geraldton PCYC was facing was twofold. Members must bear in mind that the commissioner wears two hats: one as the Commissioner of Police, and the other as the chairman of the PCYC incorporated association. Ms M.M. Quirk : He’s also the chief executive officer of your department. That’s a third hat. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he is not. The member should ask me a question about that, because I would love to come back to her on that. He is not a CEO. The member can ask me another question, perhaps as a supplementary question if she likes; that will be a good one for her! As I said, the commissioner wears two hats: one as the commissioner in charge of the police service and one as the chairman of the PCYC, which is an incorporated association. It is separate from WA Police. There is an understanding between both organisations that the only person who can be chairman of the PCYC is the Commissioner of Police; that is why he is chairman. I spoke to the commissioner about the problem, which was that the PCYC had run up some debts that it did not have the ability to pay and that it was without police officer involvement. I can tell members that the police commissioner told me at the time that it is not a position that he simply instructs somebody to go to. That is no good; he does not want to just send somebody there who does not want to go. He needs to have somebody who wants to go and work with young people, so he put out an expression of interest notice through the usual police computer system forum, and a police officer applied for that position—an officer who wanted to go and work at the Geraldton PCYC. That is exactly what is happening; that officer will be going to work in Geraldton with the PCYC. That is the first problem solved. The second problem is the financial problem. The police are not able to simply bail out a PCYC, but the commissioner and I are of the same opinion that the PCYC would not — Mr E.S. Ripper : You’ve got $1 billion extra in royalty revenues. You should be able to fix the Geraldton PCYC. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(3) This question could almost be a dorothy dixer. Ms M.M. Quirk : Why didn’t the member for Geraldton ask it, then? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because the member for Geraldton has been asking me privately exactly what we are going to do about it, and I do not like dorothy dixers, as the member knows; I like the really hard questions that she asks! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. I am sure that the member for Girrawheen would like to hear the answer. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would like to give the member for Girrawheen the answer because I know that she is interested in this area. What have I done since the Premier brought this matter up? I have had a meeting with the Commissioner of Police. The problem that Geraldton PCYC was facing was twofold. Members must bear in mind that the commissioner wears two hats: one as the Commissioner of Police, and the other as the chairman of the PCYC incorporated association. Ms M.M. Quirk : He’s also the chief executive officer of your department. That’s a third hat. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he is not. The member should ask me a question about that, because I would love to come back to her on that. He is not a CEO. The member can ask me another question, perhaps as a supplementary question if she likes; that will be a good one for her! As I said, the commissioner wears two hats: one as the commissioner in charge of the police service and one as the chairman of the PCYC, which is an incorporated association. It is separate from WA Police. There is an understanding between both organisations that the only person who can be chairman of the PCYC is the Commissioner of Police; that is why he is chairman. I spoke to the commissioner about the problem, which was that the PCYC had run up some debts that it did not have the ability to pay and that it was without police officer involvement. I can tell members that the police commissioner told me at the time that it is not a position that he simply instructs somebody to go to. That is no good; he does not want to just send somebody there who does not want to go. He needs to have somebody who wants to go and work with young people, so he put out an expression of interest notice through the usual police computer system forum, and a police officer applied for that position—an officer who wanted to go and work at the Geraldton PCYC. That is exactly what is happening; that officer will be going to work in Geraldton with the PCYC. That is the first problem solved. The second problem is the financial problem. The police are not able to simply bail out a PCYC, but the commissioner and I are of the same opinion that the PCYC would not — Mr E.S. Ripper : You’ve got $1 billion extra in royalty revenues. You should be able to fix the Geraldton PCYC. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
(1)–(3) This question could almost be a dorothy dixer. Ms M.M. Quirk : Why didn’t the member for Geraldton ask it, then? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because the member for Geraldton has been asking me privately exactly what we are going to do about it, and I do not like dorothy dixers, as the member knows; I like the really hard questions that she asks! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. I am sure that the member for Girrawheen would like to hear the answer. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would like to give the member for Girrawheen the answer because I know that she is interested in this area. What have I done since the Premier brought this matter up? I have had a meeting with the Commissioner of Police. The problem that Geraldton PCYC was facing was twofold. Members must bear in mind that the commissioner wears two hats: one as the Commissioner of Police, and the other as the chairman of the PCYC incorporated association. Ms M.M. Quirk : He’s also the chief executive officer of your department. That’s a third hat. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he is not. The member should ask me a question about that, because I would love to come back to her on that. He is not a CEO. The member can ask me another question, perhaps as a supplementary question if she likes; that will be a good one for her! As I said, the commissioner wears two hats: one as the commissioner in charge of the police service and one as the chairman of the PCYC, which is an incorporated association. It is separate from WA Police. There is an understanding between both organisations that the only person who can be chairman of the PCYC is the Commissioner of Police; that is why he is chairman. I spoke to the commissioner about the problem, which was that the PCYC had run up some debts that it did not have the ability to pay and that it was without police officer involvement. I can tell members that the police commissioner told me at the time that it is not a position that he simply instructs somebody to go to. That is no good; he does not want to just send somebody there who does not want to go. He needs to have somebody who wants to go and work with young people, so he put out an expression of interest notice through the usual police computer system forum, and a police officer applied for that position—an officer who wanted to go and work at the Geraldton PCYC. That is exactly what is happening; that officer will be going to work in Geraldton with the PCYC. That is the first problem solved. The second problem is the financial problem. The police are not able to simply bail out a PCYC, but the commissioner and I are of the same opinion that the PCYC would not — Mr E.S. Ripper : You’ve got $1 billion extra in royalty revenues. You should be able to fix the Geraldton PCYC. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Ms M.M. Quirk : Why didn’t the member for Geraldton ask it, then? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because the member for Geraldton has been asking me privately exactly what we are going to do about it, and I do not like dorothy dixers, as the member knows; I like the really hard questions that she asks! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. I am sure that the member for Girrawheen would like to hear the answer. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would like to give the member for Girrawheen the answer because I know that she is interested in this area. What have I done since the Premier brought this matter up? I have had a meeting with the Commissioner of Police. The problem that Geraldton PCYC was facing was twofold. Members must bear in mind that the commissioner wears two hats: one as the Commissioner of Police, and the other as the chairman of the PCYC incorporated association. Ms M.M. Quirk : He’s also the chief executive officer of your department. That’s a third hat. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he is not. The member should ask me a question about that, because I would love to come back to her on that. He is not a CEO. The member can ask me another question, perhaps as a supplementary question if she likes; that will be a good one for her! As I said, the commissioner wears two hats: one as the commissioner in charge of the police service and one as the chairman of the PCYC, which is an incorporated association. It is separate from WA Police. There is an understanding between both organisations that the only person who can be chairman of the PCYC is the Commissioner of Police; that is why he is chairman. I spoke to the commissioner about the problem, which was that the PCYC had run up some debts that it did not have the ability to pay and that it was without police officer involvement. I can tell members that the police commissioner told me at the time that it is not a position that he simply instructs somebody to go to. That is no good; he does not want to just send somebody there who does not want to go. He needs to have somebody who wants to go and work with young people, so he put out an expression of interest notice through the usual police computer system forum, and a police officer applied for that position—an officer who wanted to go and work at the Geraldton PCYC. That is exactly what is happening; that officer will be going to work in Geraldton with the PCYC. That is the first problem solved. The second problem is the financial problem. The police are not able to simply bail out a PCYC, but the commissioner and I are of the same opinion that the PCYC would not — Mr E.S. Ripper : You’ve got $1 billion extra in royalty revenues. You should be able to fix the Geraldton PCYC. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Because the member for Geraldton has been asking me privately exactly what we are going to do about it, and I do not like dorothy dixers, as the member knows; I like the really hard questions that she asks! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. I am sure that the member for Girrawheen would like to hear the answer. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would like to give the member for Girrawheen the answer because I know that she is interested in this area. What have I done since the Premier brought this matter up? I have had a meeting with the Commissioner of Police. The problem that Geraldton PCYC was facing was twofold. Members must bear in mind that the commissioner wears two hats: one as the Commissioner of Police, and the other as the chairman of the PCYC incorporated association. Ms M.M. Quirk : He’s also the chief executive officer of your department. That’s a third hat. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he is not. The member should ask me a question about that, because I would love to come back to her on that. He is not a CEO. The member can ask me another question, perhaps as a supplementary question if she likes; that will be a good one for her! As I said, the commissioner wears two hats: one as the commissioner in charge of the police service and one as the chairman of the PCYC, which is an incorporated association. It is separate from WA Police. There is an understanding between both organisations that the only person who can be chairman of the PCYC is the Commissioner of Police; that is why he is chairman. I spoke to the commissioner about the problem, which was that the PCYC had run up some debts that it did not have the ability to pay and that it was without police officer involvement. I can tell members that the police commissioner told me at the time that it is not a position that he simply instructs somebody to go to. That is no good; he does not want to just send somebody there who does not want to go. He needs to have somebody who wants to go and work with young people, so he put out an expression of interest notice through the usual police computer system forum, and a police officer applied for that position—an officer who wanted to go and work at the Geraldton PCYC. That is exactly what is happening; that officer will be going to work in Geraldton with the PCYC. That is the first problem solved. The second problem is the financial problem. The police are not able to simply bail out a PCYC, but the commissioner and I are of the same opinion that the PCYC would not — Mr E.S. Ripper : You’ve got $1 billion extra in royalty revenues. You should be able to fix the Geraldton PCYC. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. I am sure that the member for Girrawheen would like to hear the answer. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would like to give the member for Girrawheen the answer because I know that she is interested in this area. What have I done since the Premier brought this matter up? I have had a meeting with the Commissioner of Police. The problem that Geraldton PCYC was facing was twofold. Members must bear in mind that the commissioner wears two hats: one as the Commissioner of Police, and the other as the chairman of the PCYC incorporated association. Ms M.M. Quirk : He’s also the chief executive officer of your department. That’s a third hat. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he is not. The member should ask me a question about that, because I would love to come back to her on that. He is not a CEO. The member can ask me another question, perhaps as a supplementary question if she likes; that will be a good one for her! As I said, the commissioner wears two hats: one as the commissioner in charge of the police service and one as the chairman of the PCYC, which is an incorporated association. It is separate from WA Police. There is an understanding between both organisations that the only person who can be chairman of the PCYC is the Commissioner of Police; that is why he is chairman. I spoke to the commissioner about the problem, which was that the PCYC had run up some debts that it did not have the ability to pay and that it was without police officer involvement. I can tell members that the police commissioner told me at the time that it is not a position that he simply instructs somebody to go to. That is no good; he does not want to just send somebody there who does not want to go. He needs to have somebody who wants to go and work with young people, so he put out an expression of interest notice through the usual police computer system forum, and a police officer applied for that position—an officer who wanted to go and work at the Geraldton PCYC. That is exactly what is happening; that officer will be going to work in Geraldton with the PCYC. That is the first problem solved. The second problem is the financial problem. The police are not able to simply bail out a PCYC, but the commissioner and I are of the same opinion that the PCYC would not — Mr E.S. Ripper : You’ve got $1 billion extra in royalty revenues. You should be able to fix the Geraldton PCYC. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. I am sure that the member for Girrawheen would like to hear the answer. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would like to give the member for Girrawheen the answer because I know that she is interested in this area. What have I done since the Premier brought this matter up? I have had a meeting with the Commissioner of Police. The problem that Geraldton PCYC was facing was twofold. Members must bear in mind that the commissioner wears two hats: one as the Commissioner of Police, and the other as the chairman of the PCYC incorporated association. Ms M.M. Quirk : He’s also the chief executive officer of your department. That’s a third hat. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he is not. The member should ask me a question about that, because I would love to come back to her on that. He is not a CEO. The member can ask me another question, perhaps as a supplementary question if she likes; that will be a good one for her! As I said, the commissioner wears two hats: one as the commissioner in charge of the police service and one as the chairman of the PCYC, which is an incorporated association. It is separate from WA Police. There is an understanding between both organisations that the only person who can be chairman of the PCYC is the Commissioner of Police; that is why he is chairman. I spoke to the commissioner about the problem, which was that the PCYC had run up some debts that it did not have the ability to pay and that it was without police officer involvement. I can tell members that the police commissioner told me at the time that it is not a position that he simply instructs somebody to go to. That is no good; he does not want to just send somebody there who does not want to go. He needs to have somebody who wants to go and work with young people, so he put out an expression of interest notice through the usual police computer system forum, and a police officer applied for that position—an officer who wanted to go and work at the Geraldton PCYC. That is exactly what is happening; that officer will be going to work in Geraldton with the PCYC. That is the first problem solved. The second problem is the financial problem. The police are not able to simply bail out a PCYC, but the commissioner and I are of the same opinion that the PCYC would not — Mr E.S. Ripper : You’ve got $1 billion extra in royalty revenues. You should be able to fix the Geraldton PCYC. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. I am sure that the member for Girrawheen would like to hear the answer. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would like to give the member for Girrawheen the answer because I know that she is interested in this area. What have I done since the Premier brought this matter up? I have had a meeting with the Commissioner of Police. The problem that Geraldton PCYC was facing was twofold. Members must bear in mind that the commissioner wears two hats: one as the Commissioner of Police, and the other as the chairman of the PCYC incorporated association. Ms M.M. Quirk : He’s also the chief executive officer of your department. That’s a third hat. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he is not. The member should ask me a question about that, because I would love to come back to her on that. He is not a CEO. The member can ask me another question, perhaps as a supplementary question if she likes; that will be a good one for her! As I said, the commissioner wears two hats: one as the commissioner in charge of the police service and one as the chairman of the PCYC, which is an incorporated association. It is separate from WA Police. There is an understanding between both organisations that the only person who can be chairman of the PCYC is the Commissioner of Police; that is why he is chairman. I spoke to the commissioner about the problem, which was that the PCYC had run up some debts that it did not have the ability to pay and that it was without police officer involvement. I can tell members that the police commissioner told me at the time that it is not a position that he simply instructs somebody to go to. That is no good; he does not want to just send somebody there who does not want to go. He needs to have somebody who wants to go and work with young people, so he put out an expression of interest notice through the usual police computer system forum, and a police officer applied for that position—an officer who wanted to go and work at the Geraldton PCYC. That is exactly what is happening; that officer will be going to work in Geraldton with the PCYC. That is the first problem solved. The second problem is the financial problem. The police are not able to simply bail out a PCYC, but the commissioner and I are of the same opinion that the PCYC would not — Mr E.S. Ripper : You’ve got $1 billion extra in royalty revenues. You should be able to fix the Geraldton PCYC. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. I am sure that the member for Girrawheen would like to hear the answer. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would like to give the member for Girrawheen the answer because I know that she is interested in this area. What have I done since the Premier brought this matter up? I have had a meeting with the Commissioner of Police. The problem that Geraldton PCYC was facing was twofold. Members must bear in mind that the commissioner wears two hats: one as the Commissioner of Police, and the other as the chairman of the PCYC incorporated association. Ms M.M. Quirk : He’s also the chief executive officer of your department. That’s a third hat. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he is not. The member should ask me a question about that, because I would love to come back to her on that. He is not a CEO. The member can ask me another question, perhaps as a supplementary question if she likes; that will be a good one for her! As I said, the commissioner wears two hats: one as the commissioner in charge of the police service and one as the chairman of the PCYC, which is an incorporated association. It is separate from WA Police. There is an understanding between both organisations that the only person who can be chairman of the PCYC is the Commissioner of Police; that is why he is chairman. I spoke to the commissioner about the problem, which was that the PCYC had run up some debts that it did not have the ability to pay and that it was without police officer involvement. I can tell members that the police commissioner told me at the time that it is not a position that he simply instructs somebody to go to. That is no good; he does not want to just send somebody there who does not want to go. He needs to have somebody who wants to go and work with young people, so he put out an expression of interest notice through the usual police computer system forum, and a police officer applied for that position—an officer who wanted to go and work at the Geraldton PCYC. That is exactly what is happening; that officer will be going to work in Geraldton with the PCYC. That is the first problem solved. The second problem is the financial problem. The police are not able to simply bail out a PCYC, but the commissioner and I are of the same opinion that the PCYC would not — Mr E.S. Ripper : You’ve got $1 billion extra in royalty revenues. You should be able to fix the Geraldton PCYC. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would like to give the member for Girrawheen the answer because I know that she is interested in this area. What have I done since the Premier brought this matter up? I have had a meeting with the Commissioner of Police. The problem that Geraldton PCYC was facing was twofold. Members must bear in mind that the commissioner wears two hats: one as the Commissioner of Police, and the other as the chairman of the PCYC incorporated association. Ms M.M. Quirk : He’s also the chief executive officer of your department. That’s a third hat. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he is not. The member should ask me a question about that, because I would love to come back to her on that. He is not a CEO. The member can ask me another question, perhaps as a supplementary question if she likes; that will be a good one for her! As I said, the commissioner wears two hats: one as the commissioner in charge of the police service and one as the chairman of the PCYC, which is an incorporated association. It is separate from WA Police. There is an understanding between both organisations that the only person who can be chairman of the PCYC is the Commissioner of Police; that is why he is chairman. I spoke to the commissioner about the problem, which was that the PCYC had run up some debts that it did not have the ability to pay and that it was without police officer involvement. I can tell members that the police commissioner told me at the time that it is not a position that he simply instructs somebody to go to. That is no good; he does not want to just send somebody there who does not want to go. He needs to have somebody who wants to go and work with young people, so he put out an expression of interest notice through the usual police computer system forum, and a police officer applied for that position—an officer who wanted to go and work at the Geraldton PCYC. That is exactly what is happening; that officer will be going to work in Geraldton with the PCYC. That is the first problem solved. The second problem is the financial problem. The police are not able to simply bail out a PCYC, but the commissioner and I are of the same opinion that the PCYC would not — Mr E.S. Ripper : You’ve got $1 billion extra in royalty revenues. You should be able to fix the Geraldton PCYC. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Ms M.M. Quirk : He’s also the chief executive officer of your department. That’s a third hat. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he is not. The member should ask me a question about that, because I would love to come back to her on that. He is not a CEO. The member can ask me another question, perhaps as a supplementary question if she likes; that will be a good one for her! As I said, the commissioner wears two hats: one as the commissioner in charge of the police service and one as the chairman of the PCYC, which is an incorporated association. It is separate from WA Police. There is an understanding between both organisations that the only person who can be chairman of the PCYC is the Commissioner of Police; that is why he is chairman. I spoke to the commissioner about the problem, which was that the PCYC had run up some debts that it did not have the ability to pay and that it was without police officer involvement. I can tell members that the police commissioner told me at the time that it is not a position that he simply instructs somebody to go to. That is no good; he does not want to just send somebody there who does not want to go. He needs to have somebody who wants to go and work with young people, so he put out an expression of interest notice through the usual police computer system forum, and a police officer applied for that position—an officer who wanted to go and work at the Geraldton PCYC. That is exactly what is happening; that officer will be going to work in Geraldton with the PCYC. That is the first problem solved. The second problem is the financial problem. The police are not able to simply bail out a PCYC, but the commissioner and I are of the same opinion that the PCYC would not — Mr E.S. Ripper : You’ve got $1 billion extra in royalty revenues. You should be able to fix the Geraldton PCYC. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he is not. The member should ask me a question about that, because I would love to come back to her on that. He is not a CEO. The member can ask me another question, perhaps as a supplementary question if she likes; that will be a good one for her! As I said, the commissioner wears two hats: one as the commissioner in charge of the police service and one as the chairman of the PCYC, which is an incorporated association. It is separate from WA Police. There is an understanding between both organisations that the only person who can be chairman of the PCYC is the Commissioner of Police; that is why he is chairman. I spoke to the commissioner about the problem, which was that the PCYC had run up some debts that it did not have the ability to pay and that it was without police officer involvement. I can tell members that the police commissioner told me at the time that it is not a position that he simply instructs somebody to go to. That is no good; he does not want to just send somebody there who does not want to go. He needs to have somebody who wants to go and work with young people, so he put out an expression of interest notice through the usual police computer system forum, and a police officer applied for that position—an officer who wanted to go and work at the Geraldton PCYC. That is exactly what is happening; that officer will be going to work in Geraldton with the PCYC. That is the first problem solved. The second problem is the financial problem. The police are not able to simply bail out a PCYC, but the commissioner and I are of the same opinion that the PCYC would not — Mr E.S. Ripper : You’ve got $1 billion extra in royalty revenues. You should be able to fix the Geraldton PCYC. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
As I said, the commissioner wears two hats: one as the commissioner in charge of the police service and one as the chairman of the PCYC, which is an incorporated association. It is separate from WA Police. There is an understanding between both organisations that the only person who can be chairman of the PCYC is the Commissioner of Police; that is why he is chairman. I spoke to the commissioner about the problem, which was that the PCYC had run up some debts that it did not have the ability to pay and that it was without police officer involvement. I can tell members that the police commissioner told me at the time that it is not a position that he simply instructs somebody to go to. That is no good; he does not want to just send somebody there who does not want to go. He needs to have somebody who wants to go and work with young people, so he put out an expression of interest notice through the usual police computer system forum, and a police officer applied for that position—an officer who wanted to go and work at the Geraldton PCYC. That is exactly what is happening; that officer will be going to work in Geraldton with the PCYC. That is the first problem solved. The second problem is the financial problem. The police are not able to simply bail out a PCYC, but the commissioner and I are of the same opinion that the PCYC would not — Mr E.S. Ripper : You’ve got $1 billion extra in royalty revenues. You should be able to fix the Geraldton PCYC. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
The second problem is the financial problem. The police are not able to simply bail out a PCYC, but the commissioner and I are of the same opinion that the PCYC would not — Mr E.S. Ripper : You’ve got $1 billion extra in royalty revenues. You should be able to fix the Geraldton PCYC. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Mr E.S. Ripper : You’ve got $1 billion extra in royalty revenues. You should be able to fix the Geraldton PCYC. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am giving the member for Girrawheen the answer to her question. PCYCs are not short of funds; they have funds. They have funds available, and I have been told that the organisation would certainly not allow one of its essential branches—Geraldton is seen as an essential one—to go under. Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Ms M.M. Quirk : What’s taking the time, then, minister? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have no involvement with the PCYC; I cannot instruct it what to do. Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re only the minister! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not the minister of the PCYC; the Leader of the Opposition should know that. He has been around long enough to know that; it is an incorporated association, completely separate from WA Police. I will do everything I can to support PCYC, because I believe it is a great organisation that does some great work. Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Ms M.M. Quirk : What are you doing then? You’ve had a chat? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member: I have spoken to the commissioner and we have organised for a police officer to go there. The Geraldton PCYC as from now has a police officer. In fact, I met with the Geraldton PCYC and the security and safety officer from the City of Geraldton–Greenough yesterday and another local person who has a big involvement with the PCYC. Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Ms M.M. Quirk : So you’ve had a couple of chats? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I just told the member what we have done! I did not just sit back and do nothing, as the member would have done when she was in government. I actually took some action. I called the commissioner, had a chat with him, put it in place and the Geraldton PCYC now has a police officer. First problem solved. The second problem is one that I know the police commissioner is aware of, and I am certain that he will deal with it appropriately. Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Ms M.M. Quirk : How? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is because PCYC is an incorporated association, and I feel confident that the main association body—the board that runs PCYCs—will ensure that funds are available for PCYC Geraldton so that it does not go bankrupt and the debts are paid. Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Mr E.S. Ripper : The Premier is going to replace you with Troy! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think the Leader of the Opposition is going to be replaced with either the bloke on his right or the bloke on his far left! I think the shadow Minister for Health is out in the cold now! The Leader of the Opposition needs to be very careful. As I said the other day, I think I will be a minister for a lot longer than the member for Belmont will be the Leader of the Opposition. I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
I hope that I have answered that question adequately, but I am sure I am going to get a supplementary
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