❓ Question regarding the government's offer in the police enterprise bargaining agreement negotiations, the minister's involvement, and whether the offer is negotiable. The minister confirms police deserve a fair wage rise but deflects specifics, leading to heated exchanges.
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POLICE ENTERPRISE BARGAINING AGREEMENT
I refer to the forthcoming police enterprise bargaining agreement. (1) Does the minister consider that police deserve a fair wage rise? (2) What is the government’s offer? (3) Is the offer negotiable, and will the minister be involved in the negotiations? Mr R.F. JOHNSON
I refer to the forthcoming police enterprise bargaining agreement. (1) Does the minister consider that police deserve a fair wage rise? (2) What is the government’s offer? (3) Is the offer negotiable, and will the minister be involved in the negotiations? Mr R.F. JOHNSON
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(1)–(3) Do I believe that police should receive a fair wage rise? Yes, of course I do! I think everyone would say that the police should get a fair wage rise. Will I be involved in the negotiations? Not directly, no. The member for Girrawheen will be aware of the cabinet decision of a couple of years ago that ministers would not get involved in EBA negotiations within their own portfolios. These negotiations are conducted by the Minister for Commerce and the Department of Commerce. In relation to police, of course, the Commissioner of Police plays a role. Negotiations to work out the terms of the EBA are technically between the police commissioner and the Department of Commerce and the Police Union. I wish them every success that they get a mutually — Ms M.M. Quirk : What is the government’s offer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not privy to the exact figure. Mr E.S. Ripper : He doesn’t know! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not responsible for negotiations. I think it is above the inflation rate—I am pretty sure of that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Do you know what the inflation rate is? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I believe the offer to police — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know what it is, and you don’t know what the government has offered. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Oh, be quiet! Mrs M.H. Roberts : Do you know anything about your portfolio? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness’ sake! You were the most useless police minister the state’s ever had! It is 12 per cent over three years. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Warnbro is in the sin bin; he should stay there! Mr E.S. Ripper : Let me help you out; it is 13 per cent over three years. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
(1) Does the minister consider that police deserve a fair wage rise? (2) What is the government’s offer? (3) Is the offer negotiable, and will the minister be involved in the negotiations? Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(3) Do I believe that police should receive a fair wage rise? Yes, of course I do! I think everyone would say that the police should get a fair wage rise. Will I be involved in the negotiations? Not directly, no. The member for Girrawheen will be aware of the cabinet decision of a couple of years ago that ministers would not get involved in EBA negotiations within their own portfolios. These negotiations are conducted by the Minister for Commerce and the Department of Commerce. In relation to police, of course, the Commissioner of Police plays a role. Negotiations to work out the terms of the EBA are technically between the police commissioner and the Department of Commerce and the Police Union. I wish them every success that they get a mutually — Ms M.M. Quirk : What is the government’s offer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not privy to the exact figure. Mr E.S. Ripper : He doesn’t know! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not responsible for negotiations. I think it is above the inflation rate—I am pretty sure of that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Do you know what the inflation rate is? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I believe the offer to police — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know what it is, and you don’t know what the government has offered. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Oh, be quiet! Mrs M.H. Roberts : Do you know anything about your portfolio? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness’ sake! You were the most useless police minister the state’s ever had! It is 12 per cent over three years. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Warnbro is in the sin bin; he should stay there! Mr E.S. Ripper : Let me help you out; it is 13 per cent over three years. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
(2) What is the government’s offer? (3) Is the offer negotiable, and will the minister be involved in the negotiations? Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(3) Do I believe that police should receive a fair wage rise? Yes, of course I do! I think everyone would say that the police should get a fair wage rise. Will I be involved in the negotiations? Not directly, no. The member for Girrawheen will be aware of the cabinet decision of a couple of years ago that ministers would not get involved in EBA negotiations within their own portfolios. These negotiations are conducted by the Minister for Commerce and the Department of Commerce. In relation to police, of course, the Commissioner of Police plays a role. Negotiations to work out the terms of the EBA are technically between the police commissioner and the Department of Commerce and the Police Union. I wish them every success that they get a mutually — Ms M.M. Quirk : What is the government’s offer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not privy to the exact figure. Mr E.S. Ripper : He doesn’t know! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not responsible for negotiations. I think it is above the inflation rate—I am pretty sure of that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Do you know what the inflation rate is? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I believe the offer to police — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know what it is, and you don’t know what the government has offered. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Oh, be quiet! Mrs M.H. Roberts : Do you know anything about your portfolio? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness’ sake! You were the most useless police minister the state’s ever had! It is 12 per cent over three years. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Warnbro is in the sin bin; he should stay there! Mr E.S. Ripper : Let me help you out; it is 13 per cent over three years. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
(3) Is the offer negotiable, and will the minister be involved in the negotiations? Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(3) Do I believe that police should receive a fair wage rise? Yes, of course I do! I think everyone would say that the police should get a fair wage rise. Will I be involved in the negotiations? Not directly, no. The member for Girrawheen will be aware of the cabinet decision of a couple of years ago that ministers would not get involved in EBA negotiations within their own portfolios. These negotiations are conducted by the Minister for Commerce and the Department of Commerce. In relation to police, of course, the Commissioner of Police plays a role. Negotiations to work out the terms of the EBA are technically between the police commissioner and the Department of Commerce and the Police Union. I wish them every success that they get a mutually — Ms M.M. Quirk : What is the government’s offer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not privy to the exact figure. Mr E.S. Ripper : He doesn’t know! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not responsible for negotiations. I think it is above the inflation rate—I am pretty sure of that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Do you know what the inflation rate is? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I believe the offer to police — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know what it is, and you don’t know what the government has offered. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Oh, be quiet! Mrs M.H. Roberts : Do you know anything about your portfolio? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness’ sake! You were the most useless police minister the state’s ever had! It is 12 per cent over three years. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Warnbro is in the sin bin; he should stay there! Mr E.S. Ripper : Let me help you out; it is 13 per cent over three years. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(3) Do I believe that police should receive a fair wage rise? Yes, of course I do! I think everyone would say that the police should get a fair wage rise. Will I be involved in the negotiations? Not directly, no. The member for Girrawheen will be aware of the cabinet decision of a couple of years ago that ministers would not get involved in EBA negotiations within their own portfolios. These negotiations are conducted by the Minister for Commerce and the Department of Commerce. In relation to police, of course, the Commissioner of Police plays a role. Negotiations to work out the terms of the EBA are technically between the police commissioner and the Department of Commerce and the Police Union. I wish them every success that they get a mutually — Ms M.M. Quirk : What is the government’s offer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not privy to the exact figure. Mr E.S. Ripper : He doesn’t know! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not responsible for negotiations. I think it is above the inflation rate—I am pretty sure of that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Do you know what the inflation rate is? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I believe the offer to police — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know what it is, and you don’t know what the government has offered. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Oh, be quiet! Mrs M.H. Roberts : Do you know anything about your portfolio? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness’ sake! You were the most useless police minister the state’s ever had! It is 12 per cent over three years. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Warnbro is in the sin bin; he should stay there! Mr E.S. Ripper : Let me help you out; it is 13 per cent over three years. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
(1)–(3) Do I believe that police should receive a fair wage rise? Yes, of course I do! I think everyone would say that the police should get a fair wage rise. Will I be involved in the negotiations? Not directly, no. The member for Girrawheen will be aware of the cabinet decision of a couple of years ago that ministers would not get involved in EBA negotiations within their own portfolios. These negotiations are conducted by the Minister for Commerce and the Department of Commerce. In relation to police, of course, the Commissioner of Police plays a role. Negotiations to work out the terms of the EBA are technically between the police commissioner and the Department of Commerce and the Police Union. I wish them every success that they get a mutually — Ms M.M. Quirk : What is the government’s offer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not privy to the exact figure. Mr E.S. Ripper : He doesn’t know! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not responsible for negotiations. I think it is above the inflation rate—I am pretty sure of that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Do you know what the inflation rate is? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I believe the offer to police — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know what it is, and you don’t know what the government has offered. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Oh, be quiet! Mrs M.H. Roberts : Do you know anything about your portfolio? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness’ sake! You were the most useless police minister the state’s ever had! It is 12 per cent over three years. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Warnbro is in the sin bin; he should stay there! Mr E.S. Ripper : Let me help you out; it is 13 per cent over three years. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not privy to the exact figure. Mr E.S. Ripper : He doesn’t know! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not responsible for negotiations. I think it is above the inflation rate—I am pretty sure of that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Do you know what the inflation rate is? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I believe the offer to police — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know what it is, and you don’t know what the government has offered. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Oh, be quiet! Mrs M.H. Roberts : Do you know anything about your portfolio? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness’ sake! You were the most useless police minister the state’s ever had! It is 12 per cent over three years. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Warnbro is in the sin bin; he should stay there! Mr E.S. Ripper : Let me help you out; it is 13 per cent over three years. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
Mr E.S. Ripper : He doesn’t know! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not responsible for negotiations. I think it is above the inflation rate—I am pretty sure of that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Do you know what the inflation rate is? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I believe the offer to police — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know what it is, and you don’t know what the government has offered. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Oh, be quiet! Mrs M.H. Roberts : Do you know anything about your portfolio? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness’ sake! You were the most useless police minister the state’s ever had! It is 12 per cent over three years. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Warnbro is in the sin bin; he should stay there! Mr E.S. Ripper : Let me help you out; it is 13 per cent over three years. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not responsible for negotiations. I think it is above the inflation rate—I am pretty sure of that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Do you know what the inflation rate is? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I believe the offer to police — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know what it is, and you don’t know what the government has offered. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Oh, be quiet! Mrs M.H. Roberts : Do you know anything about your portfolio? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness’ sake! You were the most useless police minister the state’s ever had! It is 12 per cent over three years. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Warnbro is in the sin bin; he should stay there! Mr E.S. Ripper : Let me help you out; it is 13 per cent over three years. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
Ms M.M. Quirk : Do you know what the inflation rate is? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I believe the offer to police — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know what it is, and you don’t know what the government has offered. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Oh, be quiet! Mrs M.H. Roberts : Do you know anything about your portfolio? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness’ sake! You were the most useless police minister the state’s ever had! It is 12 per cent over three years. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Warnbro is in the sin bin; he should stay there! Mr E.S. Ripper : Let me help you out; it is 13 per cent over three years. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I believe the offer to police — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know what it is, and you don’t know what the government has offered. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Oh, be quiet! Mrs M.H. Roberts : Do you know anything about your portfolio? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness’ sake! You were the most useless police minister the state’s ever had! It is 12 per cent over three years. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Warnbro is in the sin bin; he should stay there! Mr E.S. Ripper : Let me help you out; it is 13 per cent over three years. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know what it is, and you don’t know what the government has offered. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Oh, be quiet! Mrs M.H. Roberts : Do you know anything about your portfolio? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness’ sake! You were the most useless police minister the state’s ever had! It is 12 per cent over three years. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Warnbro is in the sin bin; he should stay there! Mr E.S. Ripper : Let me help you out; it is 13 per cent over three years. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Oh, be quiet! Mrs M.H. Roberts : Do you know anything about your portfolio? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness’ sake! You were the most useless police minister the state’s ever had! It is 12 per cent over three years. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Warnbro is in the sin bin; he should stay there! Mr E.S. Ripper : Let me help you out; it is 13 per cent over three years. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
Mrs M.H. Roberts : Do you know anything about your portfolio? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness’ sake! You were the most useless police minister the state’s ever had! It is 12 per cent over three years. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Warnbro is in the sin bin; he should stay there! Mr E.S. Ripper : Let me help you out; it is 13 per cent over three years. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness’ sake! You were the most useless police minister the state’s ever had! It is 12 per cent over three years. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Warnbro is in the sin bin; he should stay there! Mr E.S. Ripper : Let me help you out; it is 13 per cent over three years. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Warnbro is in the sin bin; he should stay there! Mr E.S. Ripper : Let me help you out; it is 13 per cent over three years. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Warnbro is in the sin bin; he should stay there! Mr E.S. Ripper : Let me help you out; it is 13 per cent over three years. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
Mr E.S. Ripper : Let me help you out; it is 13 per cent over three years. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
(1) Does the minister consider that police deserve a fair wage rise? (2) What is the government’s offer? (3) Is the offer negotiable, and will the minister be involved in the negotiations? Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(3) Do I believe that police should receive a fair wage rise? Yes, of course I do! I think everyone would say that the police should get a fair wage rise. Will I be involved in the negotiations? Not directly, no. The member for Girrawheen will be aware of the cabinet decision of a couple of years ago that ministers would not get involved in EBA negotiations within their own portfolios. These negotiations are conducted by the Minister for Commerce and the Department of Commerce. In relation to police, of course, the Commissioner of Police plays a role. Negotiations to work out the terms of the EBA are technically between the police commissioner and the Department of Commerce and the Police Union. I wish them every success that they get a mutually — Ms M.M. Quirk : What is the government’s offer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not privy to the exact figure. Mr E.S. Ripper : He doesn’t know! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not responsible for negotiations. I think it is above the inflation rate—I am pretty sure of that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Do you know what the inflation rate is? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I believe the offer to police — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know what it is, and you don’t know what the government has offered. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Oh, be quiet! Mrs M.H. Roberts : Do you know anything about your portfolio? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness’ sake! You were the most useless police minister the state’s ever had! It is 12 per cent over three years. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Warnbro is in the sin bin; he should stay there! Mr E.S. Ripper : Let me help you out; it is 13 per cent over three years. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
(2) What is the government’s offer? (3) Is the offer negotiable, and will the minister be involved in the negotiations? Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(3) Do I believe that police should receive a fair wage rise? Yes, of course I do! I think everyone would say that the police should get a fair wage rise. Will I be involved in the negotiations? Not directly, no. The member for Girrawheen will be aware of the cabinet decision of a couple of years ago that ministers would not get involved in EBA negotiations within their own portfolios. These negotiations are conducted by the Minister for Commerce and the Department of Commerce. In relation to police, of course, the Commissioner of Police plays a role. Negotiations to work out the terms of the EBA are technically between the police commissioner and the Department of Commerce and the Police Union. I wish them every success that they get a mutually — Ms M.M. Quirk : What is the government’s offer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not privy to the exact figure. Mr E.S. Ripper : He doesn’t know! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not responsible for negotiations. I think it is above the inflation rate—I am pretty sure of that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Do you know what the inflation rate is? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I believe the offer to police — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know what it is, and you don’t know what the government has offered. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Oh, be quiet! Mrs M.H. Roberts : Do you know anything about your portfolio? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness’ sake! You were the most useless police minister the state’s ever had! It is 12 per cent over three years. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Warnbro is in the sin bin; he should stay there! Mr E.S. Ripper : Let me help you out; it is 13 per cent over three years. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
(3) Is the offer negotiable, and will the minister be involved in the negotiations? Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(3) Do I believe that police should receive a fair wage rise? Yes, of course I do! I think everyone would say that the police should get a fair wage rise. Will I be involved in the negotiations? Not directly, no. The member for Girrawheen will be aware of the cabinet decision of a couple of years ago that ministers would not get involved in EBA negotiations within their own portfolios. These negotiations are conducted by the Minister for Commerce and the Department of Commerce. In relation to police, of course, the Commissioner of Police plays a role. Negotiations to work out the terms of the EBA are technically between the police commissioner and the Department of Commerce and the Police Union. I wish them every success that they get a mutually — Ms M.M. Quirk : What is the government’s offer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not privy to the exact figure. Mr E.S. Ripper : He doesn’t know! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not responsible for negotiations. I think it is above the inflation rate—I am pretty sure of that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Do you know what the inflation rate is? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I believe the offer to police — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know what it is, and you don’t know what the government has offered. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Oh, be quiet! Mrs M.H. Roberts : Do you know anything about your portfolio? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness’ sake! You were the most useless police minister the state’s ever had! It is 12 per cent over three years. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Warnbro is in the sin bin; he should stay there! Mr E.S. Ripper : Let me help you out; it is 13 per cent over three years. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(3) Do I believe that police should receive a fair wage rise? Yes, of course I do! I think everyone would say that the police should get a fair wage rise. Will I be involved in the negotiations? Not directly, no. The member for Girrawheen will be aware of the cabinet decision of a couple of years ago that ministers would not get involved in EBA negotiations within their own portfolios. These negotiations are conducted by the Minister for Commerce and the Department of Commerce. In relation to police, of course, the Commissioner of Police plays a role. Negotiations to work out the terms of the EBA are technically between the police commissioner and the Department of Commerce and the Police Union. I wish them every success that they get a mutually — Ms M.M. Quirk : What is the government’s offer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not privy to the exact figure. Mr E.S. Ripper : He doesn’t know! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not responsible for negotiations. I think it is above the inflation rate—I am pretty sure of that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Do you know what the inflation rate is? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I believe the offer to police — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know what it is, and you don’t know what the government has offered. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Oh, be quiet! Mrs M.H. Roberts : Do you know anything about your portfolio? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness’ sake! You were the most useless police minister the state’s ever had! It is 12 per cent over three years. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Warnbro is in the sin bin; he should stay there! Mr E.S. Ripper : Let me help you out; it is 13 per cent over three years. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
(1)–(3) Do I believe that police should receive a fair wage rise? Yes, of course I do! I think everyone would say that the police should get a fair wage rise. Will I be involved in the negotiations? Not directly, no. The member for Girrawheen will be aware of the cabinet decision of a couple of years ago that ministers would not get involved in EBA negotiations within their own portfolios. These negotiations are conducted by the Minister for Commerce and the Department of Commerce. In relation to police, of course, the Commissioner of Police plays a role. Negotiations to work out the terms of the EBA are technically between the police commissioner and the Department of Commerce and the Police Union. I wish them every success that they get a mutually — Ms M.M. Quirk : What is the government’s offer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not privy to the exact figure. Mr E.S. Ripper : He doesn’t know! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not responsible for negotiations. I think it is above the inflation rate—I am pretty sure of that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Do you know what the inflation rate is? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I believe the offer to police — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know what it is, and you don’t know what the government has offered. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Oh, be quiet! Mrs M.H. Roberts : Do you know anything about your portfolio? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness’ sake! You were the most useless police minister the state’s ever had! It is 12 per cent over three years. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Warnbro is in the sin bin; he should stay there! Mr E.S. Ripper : Let me help you out; it is 13 per cent over three years. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not privy to the exact figure. Mr E.S. Ripper : He doesn’t know! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not responsible for negotiations. I think it is above the inflation rate—I am pretty sure of that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Do you know what the inflation rate is? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I believe the offer to police — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know what it is, and you don’t know what the government has offered. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Oh, be quiet! Mrs M.H. Roberts : Do you know anything about your portfolio? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness’ sake! You were the most useless police minister the state’s ever had! It is 12 per cent over three years. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Warnbro is in the sin bin; he should stay there! Mr E.S. Ripper : Let me help you out; it is 13 per cent over three years. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
Mr E.S. Ripper : He doesn’t know! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not responsible for negotiations. I think it is above the inflation rate—I am pretty sure of that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Do you know what the inflation rate is? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I believe the offer to police — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know what it is, and you don’t know what the government has offered. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Oh, be quiet! Mrs M.H. Roberts : Do you know anything about your portfolio? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness’ sake! You were the most useless police minister the state’s ever had! It is 12 per cent over three years. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Warnbro is in the sin bin; he should stay there! Mr E.S. Ripper : Let me help you out; it is 13 per cent over three years. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not responsible for negotiations. I think it is above the inflation rate—I am pretty sure of that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Do you know what the inflation rate is? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I believe the offer to police — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know what it is, and you don’t know what the government has offered. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Oh, be quiet! Mrs M.H. Roberts : Do you know anything about your portfolio? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness’ sake! You were the most useless police minister the state’s ever had! It is 12 per cent over three years. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Warnbro is in the sin bin; he should stay there! Mr E.S. Ripper : Let me help you out; it is 13 per cent over three years. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
Ms M.M. Quirk : Do you know what the inflation rate is? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I believe the offer to police — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know what it is, and you don’t know what the government has offered. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Oh, be quiet! Mrs M.H. Roberts : Do you know anything about your portfolio? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness’ sake! You were the most useless police minister the state’s ever had! It is 12 per cent over three years. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Warnbro is in the sin bin; he should stay there! Mr E.S. Ripper : Let me help you out; it is 13 per cent over three years. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I believe the offer to police — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know what it is, and you don’t know what the government has offered. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Oh, be quiet! Mrs M.H. Roberts : Do you know anything about your portfolio? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness’ sake! You were the most useless police minister the state’s ever had! It is 12 per cent over three years. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Warnbro is in the sin bin; he should stay there! Mr E.S. Ripper : Let me help you out; it is 13 per cent over three years. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know what it is, and you don’t know what the government has offered. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Oh, be quiet! Mrs M.H. Roberts : Do you know anything about your portfolio? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness’ sake! You were the most useless police minister the state’s ever had! It is 12 per cent over three years. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Warnbro is in the sin bin; he should stay there! Mr E.S. Ripper : Let me help you out; it is 13 per cent over three years. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Oh, be quiet! Mrs M.H. Roberts : Do you know anything about your portfolio? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness’ sake! You were the most useless police minister the state’s ever had! It is 12 per cent over three years. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Warnbro is in the sin bin; he should stay there! Mr E.S. Ripper : Let me help you out; it is 13 per cent over three years. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
Mrs M.H. Roberts : Do you know anything about your portfolio? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness’ sake! You were the most useless police minister the state’s ever had! It is 12 per cent over three years. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Warnbro is in the sin bin; he should stay there! Mr E.S. Ripper : Let me help you out; it is 13 per cent over three years. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness’ sake! You were the most useless police minister the state’s ever had! It is 12 per cent over three years. Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Warnbro is in the sin bin; he should stay there! Mr E.S. Ripper : Let me help you out; it is 13 per cent over three years. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
Mr P. Papalia interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Warnbro is in the sin bin; he should stay there! Mr E.S. Ripper : Let me help you out; it is 13 per cent over three years. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Warnbro is in the sin bin; he should stay there! Mr E.S. Ripper : Let me help you out; it is 13 per cent over three years. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
Mr E.S. Ripper : Let me help you out; it is 13 per cent over three years. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I said that it was 12 per cent over three years. From what I read, the police are looking for 15 per cent over two years, so there is obviously an area in which negotiation can take place. I will not be directly involved in that, and it is probably right that I should not. I would probably be too generous to police, because I love them all and I want to see them get a fair deal. That is why it is better — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they love me too! At the end of the day, it is better that I keep at arm’s length from the actual negotiations so that it can take place fairly. As I told members, the police commissioner has a fair role to play in those negotiations.
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