❓ Question regarding the potential rezoning of land owned by the Plunkett family in Guilderton from urban development to rural, and the financial implications for the family. The Minister deflects and questions the factual basis of the claim.
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I refer to the minister’s strident comments in the house yesterday that the land owned by the Plunkett family in Guilderton, south of Moore River, which is currently zoned urban development, should be rezoned rural. (1) Does the minister care that the Plunkett family has already spent $5 million on their urban development proposal, based on the current approved zoning? (2) How on earth can the minister justify rezoning this land, given that the Plunkett family has already spent an extraordinary amount of money on this development? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN
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(1)-(2) I presume that the Leader of the Opposition has done his research and can quantify that claim. Is the Leader of the Opposition able to do that? Will the Leader of the Opposition provide some documents during the debate on this issue today? Mr M.J. Birney : If it were $10, the principle would still be the same. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : So the sum of money involved does not matter! That is good; it is important that that is made clear. A debate will occur later today during which we will set out the case. As I have explained, the rezoning has not yet occurred. There will be a formal process. A recommendation was made in a structure plan that the zoning for this area be changed. As I have said, there is merit in that recommendation. Mr M.J. Birney : What about the money this mob has spent? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : At the end of the day, it is about making sure that we achieve a good result for the community. When people in this state get the benefit of an upzoning, they by and large receive a windfall profit. When land is downzoned, there is a reduction in property value. It is perhaps unusual for such a large property to be downzoned. However, I note that the other side of politics agreed with us when we downzoned - Mr M.J. Birney : This is an intrusion on people’s private property rights. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am opposed to what you are doing in Moore River. These people have spent millions of dollars. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am certainly opposed to the downzoning in Moore River. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We receive applications from Melville, South Perth and Subiaco for properties to be downzoned. There are some precedents for this process, which I understand received the support of the other side. The member for Mandurah will remember that the community wanted some land between Singleton and Madora Bay, which had been zoned urban development, to remain as a green belt. The government made the decision in 2001 that the best planning for both Peel and Perth required that this land remain as a green belt. That has happened. I make the point, as will be made again later today, that no-one is suggesting that the land in question has no development potential. The structure plan is very clear in saying that this previously rural land has great potential for tourism development, with some supplementary residential development to service the tourism facility.
(1) Does the minister care that the Plunkett family has already spent $5 million on their urban development proposal, based on the current approved zoning? (2) How on earth can the minister justify rezoning this land, given that the Plunkett family has already spent an extraordinary amount of money on this development? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(2) I presume that the Leader of the Opposition has done his research and can quantify that claim. Is the Leader of the Opposition able to do that? Will the Leader of the Opposition provide some documents during the debate on this issue today? Mr M.J. Birney : If it were $10, the principle would still be the same. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : So the sum of money involved does not matter! That is good; it is important that that is made clear. A debate will occur later today during which we will set out the case. As I have explained, the rezoning has not yet occurred. There will be a formal process. A recommendation was made in a structure plan that the zoning for this area be changed. As I have said, there is merit in that recommendation. Mr M.J. Birney : What about the money this mob has spent? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : At the end of the day, it is about making sure that we achieve a good result for the community. When people in this state get the benefit of an upzoning, they by and large receive a windfall profit. When land is downzoned, there is a reduction in property value. It is perhaps unusual for such a large property to be downzoned. However, I note that the other side of politics agreed with us when we downzoned - Mr M.J. Birney : This is an intrusion on people’s private property rights. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am opposed to what you are doing in Moore River. These people have spent millions of dollars. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am certainly opposed to the downzoning in Moore River. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We receive applications from Melville, South Perth and Subiaco for properties to be downzoned. There are some precedents for this process, which I understand received the support of the other side. The member for Mandurah will remember that the community wanted some land between Singleton and Madora Bay, which had been zoned urban development, to remain as a green belt. The government made the decision in 2001 that the best planning for both Peel and Perth required that this land remain as a green belt. That has happened. I make the point, as will be made again later today, that no-one is suggesting that the land in question has no development potential. The structure plan is very clear in saying that this previously rural land has great potential for tourism development, with some supplementary residential development to service the tourism facility.
(2) How on earth can the minister justify rezoning this land, given that the Plunkett family has already spent an extraordinary amount of money on this development? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(2) I presume that the Leader of the Opposition has done his research and can quantify that claim. Is the Leader of the Opposition able to do that? Will the Leader of the Opposition provide some documents during the debate on this issue today? Mr M.J. Birney : If it were $10, the principle would still be the same. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : So the sum of money involved does not matter! That is good; it is important that that is made clear. A debate will occur later today during which we will set out the case. As I have explained, the rezoning has not yet occurred. There will be a formal process. A recommendation was made in a structure plan that the zoning for this area be changed. As I have said, there is merit in that recommendation. Mr M.J. Birney : What about the money this mob has spent? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : At the end of the day, it is about making sure that we achieve a good result for the community. When people in this state get the benefit of an upzoning, they by and large receive a windfall profit. When land is downzoned, there is a reduction in property value. It is perhaps unusual for such a large property to be downzoned. However, I note that the other side of politics agreed with us when we downzoned - Mr M.J. Birney : This is an intrusion on people’s private property rights. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am opposed to what you are doing in Moore River. These people have spent millions of dollars. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am certainly opposed to the downzoning in Moore River. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We receive applications from Melville, South Perth and Subiaco for properties to be downzoned. There are some precedents for this process, which I understand received the support of the other side. The member for Mandurah will remember that the community wanted some land between Singleton and Madora Bay, which had been zoned urban development, to remain as a green belt. The government made the decision in 2001 that the best planning for both Peel and Perth required that this land remain as a green belt. That has happened. I make the point, as will be made again later today, that no-one is suggesting that the land in question has no development potential. The structure plan is very clear in saying that this previously rural land has great potential for tourism development, with some supplementary residential development to service the tourism facility.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(2) I presume that the Leader of the Opposition has done his research and can quantify that claim. Is the Leader of the Opposition able to do that? Will the Leader of the Opposition provide some documents during the debate on this issue today? Mr M.J. Birney : If it were $10, the principle would still be the same. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : So the sum of money involved does not matter! That is good; it is important that that is made clear. A debate will occur later today during which we will set out the case. As I have explained, the rezoning has not yet occurred. There will be a formal process. A recommendation was made in a structure plan that the zoning for this area be changed. As I have said, there is merit in that recommendation. Mr M.J. Birney : What about the money this mob has spent? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : At the end of the day, it is about making sure that we achieve a good result for the community. When people in this state get the benefit of an upzoning, they by and large receive a windfall profit. When land is downzoned, there is a reduction in property value. It is perhaps unusual for such a large property to be downzoned. However, I note that the other side of politics agreed with us when we downzoned - Mr M.J. Birney : This is an intrusion on people’s private property rights. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am opposed to what you are doing in Moore River. These people have spent millions of dollars. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am certainly opposed to the downzoning in Moore River. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We receive applications from Melville, South Perth and Subiaco for properties to be downzoned. There are some precedents for this process, which I understand received the support of the other side. The member for Mandurah will remember that the community wanted some land between Singleton and Madora Bay, which had been zoned urban development, to remain as a green belt. The government made the decision in 2001 that the best planning for both Peel and Perth required that this land remain as a green belt. That has happened. I make the point, as will be made again later today, that no-one is suggesting that the land in question has no development potential. The structure plan is very clear in saying that this previously rural land has great potential for tourism development, with some supplementary residential development to service the tourism facility.
(1)-(2) I presume that the Leader of the Opposition has done his research and can quantify that claim. Is the Leader of the Opposition able to do that? Will the Leader of the Opposition provide some documents during the debate on this issue today? Mr M.J. Birney : If it were $10, the principle would still be the same. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : So the sum of money involved does not matter! That is good; it is important that that is made clear. A debate will occur later today during which we will set out the case. As I have explained, the rezoning has not yet occurred. There will be a formal process. A recommendation was made in a structure plan that the zoning for this area be changed. As I have said, there is merit in that recommendation. Mr M.J. Birney : What about the money this mob has spent? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : At the end of the day, it is about making sure that we achieve a good result for the community. When people in this state get the benefit of an upzoning, they by and large receive a windfall profit. When land is downzoned, there is a reduction in property value. It is perhaps unusual for such a large property to be downzoned. However, I note that the other side of politics agreed with us when we downzoned - Mr M.J. Birney : This is an intrusion on people’s private property rights. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am opposed to what you are doing in Moore River. These people have spent millions of dollars. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am certainly opposed to the downzoning in Moore River. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We receive applications from Melville, South Perth and Subiaco for properties to be downzoned. There are some precedents for this process, which I understand received the support of the other side. The member for Mandurah will remember that the community wanted some land between Singleton and Madora Bay, which had been zoned urban development, to remain as a green belt. The government made the decision in 2001 that the best planning for both Peel and Perth required that this land remain as a green belt. That has happened. I make the point, as will be made again later today, that no-one is suggesting that the land in question has no development potential. The structure plan is very clear in saying that this previously rural land has great potential for tourism development, with some supplementary residential development to service the tourism facility.
Mr M.J. Birney : If it were $10, the principle would still be the same. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : So the sum of money involved does not matter! That is good; it is important that that is made clear. A debate will occur later today during which we will set out the case. As I have explained, the rezoning has not yet occurred. There will be a formal process. A recommendation was made in a structure plan that the zoning for this area be changed. As I have said, there is merit in that recommendation. Mr M.J. Birney : What about the money this mob has spent? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : At the end of the day, it is about making sure that we achieve a good result for the community. When people in this state get the benefit of an upzoning, they by and large receive a windfall profit. When land is downzoned, there is a reduction in property value. It is perhaps unusual for such a large property to be downzoned. However, I note that the other side of politics agreed with us when we downzoned - Mr M.J. Birney : This is an intrusion on people’s private property rights. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am opposed to what you are doing in Moore River. These people have spent millions of dollars. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am certainly opposed to the downzoning in Moore River. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We receive applications from Melville, South Perth and Subiaco for properties to be downzoned. There are some precedents for this process, which I understand received the support of the other side. The member for Mandurah will remember that the community wanted some land between Singleton and Madora Bay, which had been zoned urban development, to remain as a green belt. The government made the decision in 2001 that the best planning for both Peel and Perth required that this land remain as a green belt. That has happened. I make the point, as will be made again later today, that no-one is suggesting that the land in question has no development potential. The structure plan is very clear in saying that this previously rural land has great potential for tourism development, with some supplementary residential development to service the tourism facility.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : So the sum of money involved does not matter! That is good; it is important that that is made clear. A debate will occur later today during which we will set out the case. As I have explained, the rezoning has not yet occurred. There will be a formal process. A recommendation was made in a structure plan that the zoning for this area be changed. As I have said, there is merit in that recommendation. Mr M.J. Birney : What about the money this mob has spent? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : At the end of the day, it is about making sure that we achieve a good result for the community. When people in this state get the benefit of an upzoning, they by and large receive a windfall profit. When land is downzoned, there is a reduction in property value. It is perhaps unusual for such a large property to be downzoned. However, I note that the other side of politics agreed with us when we downzoned - Mr M.J. Birney : This is an intrusion on people’s private property rights. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am opposed to what you are doing in Moore River. These people have spent millions of dollars. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am certainly opposed to the downzoning in Moore River. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We receive applications from Melville, South Perth and Subiaco for properties to be downzoned. There are some precedents for this process, which I understand received the support of the other side. The member for Mandurah will remember that the community wanted some land between Singleton and Madora Bay, which had been zoned urban development, to remain as a green belt. The government made the decision in 2001 that the best planning for both Peel and Perth required that this land remain as a green belt. That has happened. I make the point, as will be made again later today, that no-one is suggesting that the land in question has no development potential. The structure plan is very clear in saying that this previously rural land has great potential for tourism development, with some supplementary residential development to service the tourism facility.
Mr M.J. Birney : What about the money this mob has spent? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : At the end of the day, it is about making sure that we achieve a good result for the community. When people in this state get the benefit of an upzoning, they by and large receive a windfall profit. When land is downzoned, there is a reduction in property value. It is perhaps unusual for such a large property to be downzoned. However, I note that the other side of politics agreed with us when we downzoned - Mr M.J. Birney : This is an intrusion on people’s private property rights. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am opposed to what you are doing in Moore River. These people have spent millions of dollars. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am certainly opposed to the downzoning in Moore River. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We receive applications from Melville, South Perth and Subiaco for properties to be downzoned. There are some precedents for this process, which I understand received the support of the other side. The member for Mandurah will remember that the community wanted some land between Singleton and Madora Bay, which had been zoned urban development, to remain as a green belt. The government made the decision in 2001 that the best planning for both Peel and Perth required that this land remain as a green belt. That has happened. I make the point, as will be made again later today, that no-one is suggesting that the land in question has no development potential. The structure plan is very clear in saying that this previously rural land has great potential for tourism development, with some supplementary residential development to service the tourism facility.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : At the end of the day, it is about making sure that we achieve a good result for the community. When people in this state get the benefit of an upzoning, they by and large receive a windfall profit. When land is downzoned, there is a reduction in property value. It is perhaps unusual for such a large property to be downzoned. However, I note that the other side of politics agreed with us when we downzoned - Mr M.J. Birney : This is an intrusion on people’s private property rights. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am opposed to what you are doing in Moore River. These people have spent millions of dollars. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am certainly opposed to the downzoning in Moore River. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We receive applications from Melville, South Perth and Subiaco for properties to be downzoned. There are some precedents for this process, which I understand received the support of the other side. The member for Mandurah will remember that the community wanted some land between Singleton and Madora Bay, which had been zoned urban development, to remain as a green belt. The government made the decision in 2001 that the best planning for both Peel and Perth required that this land remain as a green belt. That has happened. I make the point, as will be made again later today, that no-one is suggesting that the land in question has no development potential. The structure plan is very clear in saying that this previously rural land has great potential for tourism development, with some supplementary residential development to service the tourism facility.
When people in this state get the benefit of an upzoning, they by and large receive a windfall profit. When land is downzoned, there is a reduction in property value. It is perhaps unusual for such a large property to be downzoned. However, I note that the other side of politics agreed with us when we downzoned - Mr M.J. Birney : This is an intrusion on people’s private property rights. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am opposed to what you are doing in Moore River. These people have spent millions of dollars. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am certainly opposed to the downzoning in Moore River. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We receive applications from Melville, South Perth and Subiaco for properties to be downzoned. There are some precedents for this process, which I understand received the support of the other side. The member for Mandurah will remember that the community wanted some land between Singleton and Madora Bay, which had been zoned urban development, to remain as a green belt. The government made the decision in 2001 that the best planning for both Peel and Perth required that this land remain as a green belt. That has happened. I make the point, as will be made again later today, that no-one is suggesting that the land in question has no development potential. The structure plan is very clear in saying that this previously rural land has great potential for tourism development, with some supplementary residential development to service the tourism facility.
Mr M.J. Birney : This is an intrusion on people’s private property rights. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am opposed to what you are doing in Moore River. These people have spent millions of dollars. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am certainly opposed to the downzoning in Moore River. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We receive applications from Melville, South Perth and Subiaco for properties to be downzoned. There are some precedents for this process, which I understand received the support of the other side. The member for Mandurah will remember that the community wanted some land between Singleton and Madora Bay, which had been zoned urban development, to remain as a green belt. The government made the decision in 2001 that the best planning for both Peel and Perth required that this land remain as a green belt. That has happened. I make the point, as will be made again later today, that no-one is suggesting that the land in question has no development potential. The structure plan is very clear in saying that this previously rural land has great potential for tourism development, with some supplementary residential development to service the tourism facility.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am opposed to what you are doing in Moore River. These people have spent millions of dollars. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am certainly opposed to the downzoning in Moore River. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We receive applications from Melville, South Perth and Subiaco for properties to be downzoned. There are some precedents for this process, which I understand received the support of the other side. The member for Mandurah will remember that the community wanted some land between Singleton and Madora Bay, which had been zoned urban development, to remain as a green belt. The government made the decision in 2001 that the best planning for both Peel and Perth required that this land remain as a green belt. That has happened. I make the point, as will be made again later today, that no-one is suggesting that the land in question has no development potential. The structure plan is very clear in saying that this previously rural land has great potential for tourism development, with some supplementary residential development to service the tourism facility.
Mr M.J. Birney : I am opposed to what you are doing in Moore River. These people have spent millions of dollars. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am certainly opposed to the downzoning in Moore River. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We receive applications from Melville, South Perth and Subiaco for properties to be downzoned. There are some precedents for this process, which I understand received the support of the other side. The member for Mandurah will remember that the community wanted some land between Singleton and Madora Bay, which had been zoned urban development, to remain as a green belt. The government made the decision in 2001 that the best planning for both Peel and Perth required that this land remain as a green belt. That has happened. I make the point, as will be made again later today, that no-one is suggesting that the land in question has no development potential. The structure plan is very clear in saying that this previously rural land has great potential for tourism development, with some supplementary residential development to service the tourism facility.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am certainly opposed to the downzoning in Moore River. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We receive applications from Melville, South Perth and Subiaco for properties to be downzoned. There are some precedents for this process, which I understand received the support of the other side. The member for Mandurah will remember that the community wanted some land between Singleton and Madora Bay, which had been zoned urban development, to remain as a green belt. The government made the decision in 2001 that the best planning for both Peel and Perth required that this land remain as a green belt. That has happened. I make the point, as will be made again later today, that no-one is suggesting that the land in question has no development potential. The structure plan is very clear in saying that this previously rural land has great potential for tourism development, with some supplementary residential development to service the tourism facility.
Mr M.J. Birney : I am certainly opposed to the downzoning in Moore River. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We receive applications from Melville, South Perth and Subiaco for properties to be downzoned. There are some precedents for this process, which I understand received the support of the other side. The member for Mandurah will remember that the community wanted some land between Singleton and Madora Bay, which had been zoned urban development, to remain as a green belt. The government made the decision in 2001 that the best planning for both Peel and Perth required that this land remain as a green belt. That has happened. I make the point, as will be made again later today, that no-one is suggesting that the land in question has no development potential. The structure plan is very clear in saying that this previously rural land has great potential for tourism development, with some supplementary residential development to service the tourism facility.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We receive applications from Melville, South Perth and Subiaco for properties to be downzoned. There are some precedents for this process, which I understand received the support of the other side. The member for Mandurah will remember that the community wanted some land between Singleton and Madora Bay, which had been zoned urban development, to remain as a green belt. The government made the decision in 2001 that the best planning for both Peel and Perth required that this land remain as a green belt. That has happened. I make the point, as will be made again later today, that no-one is suggesting that the land in question has no development potential. The structure plan is very clear in saying that this previously rural land has great potential for tourism development, with some supplementary residential development to service the tourism facility.
(1) Does the minister care that the Plunkett family has already spent $5 million on their urban development proposal, based on the current approved zoning? (2) How on earth can the minister justify rezoning this land, given that the Plunkett family has already spent an extraordinary amount of money on this development? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(2) I presume that the Leader of the Opposition has done his research and can quantify that claim. Is the Leader of the Opposition able to do that? Will the Leader of the Opposition provide some documents during the debate on this issue today? Mr M.J. Birney : If it were $10, the principle would still be the same. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : So the sum of money involved does not matter! That is good; it is important that that is made clear. A debate will occur later today during which we will set out the case. As I have explained, the rezoning has not yet occurred. There will be a formal process. A recommendation was made in a structure plan that the zoning for this area be changed. As I have said, there is merit in that recommendation. Mr M.J. Birney : What about the money this mob has spent? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : At the end of the day, it is about making sure that we achieve a good result for the community. When people in this state get the benefit of an upzoning, they by and large receive a windfall profit. When land is downzoned, there is a reduction in property value. It is perhaps unusual for such a large property to be downzoned. However, I note that the other side of politics agreed with us when we downzoned - Mr M.J. Birney : This is an intrusion on people’s private property rights. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am opposed to what you are doing in Moore River. These people have spent millions of dollars. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am certainly opposed to the downzoning in Moore River. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We receive applications from Melville, South Perth and Subiaco for properties to be downzoned. There are some precedents for this process, which I understand received the support of the other side. The member for Mandurah will remember that the community wanted some land between Singleton and Madora Bay, which had been zoned urban development, to remain as a green belt. The government made the decision in 2001 that the best planning for both Peel and Perth required that this land remain as a green belt. That has happened. I make the point, as will be made again later today, that no-one is suggesting that the land in question has no development potential. The structure plan is very clear in saying that this previously rural land has great potential for tourism development, with some supplementary residential development to service the tourism facility.
(2) How on earth can the minister justify rezoning this land, given that the Plunkett family has already spent an extraordinary amount of money on this development? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(2) I presume that the Leader of the Opposition has done his research and can quantify that claim. Is the Leader of the Opposition able to do that? Will the Leader of the Opposition provide some documents during the debate on this issue today? Mr M.J. Birney : If it were $10, the principle would still be the same. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : So the sum of money involved does not matter! That is good; it is important that that is made clear. A debate will occur later today during which we will set out the case. As I have explained, the rezoning has not yet occurred. There will be a formal process. A recommendation was made in a structure plan that the zoning for this area be changed. As I have said, there is merit in that recommendation. Mr M.J. Birney : What about the money this mob has spent? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : At the end of the day, it is about making sure that we achieve a good result for the community. When people in this state get the benefit of an upzoning, they by and large receive a windfall profit. When land is downzoned, there is a reduction in property value. It is perhaps unusual for such a large property to be downzoned. However, I note that the other side of politics agreed with us when we downzoned - Mr M.J. Birney : This is an intrusion on people’s private property rights. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am opposed to what you are doing in Moore River. These people have spent millions of dollars. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am certainly opposed to the downzoning in Moore River. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We receive applications from Melville, South Perth and Subiaco for properties to be downzoned. There are some precedents for this process, which I understand received the support of the other side. The member for Mandurah will remember that the community wanted some land between Singleton and Madora Bay, which had been zoned urban development, to remain as a green belt. The government made the decision in 2001 that the best planning for both Peel and Perth required that this land remain as a green belt. That has happened. I make the point, as will be made again later today, that no-one is suggesting that the land in question has no development potential. The structure plan is very clear in saying that this previously rural land has great potential for tourism development, with some supplementary residential development to service the tourism facility.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(2) I presume that the Leader of the Opposition has done his research and can quantify that claim. Is the Leader of the Opposition able to do that? Will the Leader of the Opposition provide some documents during the debate on this issue today? Mr M.J. Birney : If it were $10, the principle would still be the same. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : So the sum of money involved does not matter! That is good; it is important that that is made clear. A debate will occur later today during which we will set out the case. As I have explained, the rezoning has not yet occurred. There will be a formal process. A recommendation was made in a structure plan that the zoning for this area be changed. As I have said, there is merit in that recommendation. Mr M.J. Birney : What about the money this mob has spent? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : At the end of the day, it is about making sure that we achieve a good result for the community. When people in this state get the benefit of an upzoning, they by and large receive a windfall profit. When land is downzoned, there is a reduction in property value. It is perhaps unusual for such a large property to be downzoned. However, I note that the other side of politics agreed with us when we downzoned - Mr M.J. Birney : This is an intrusion on people’s private property rights. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am opposed to what you are doing in Moore River. These people have spent millions of dollars. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am certainly opposed to the downzoning in Moore River. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We receive applications from Melville, South Perth and Subiaco for properties to be downzoned. There are some precedents for this process, which I understand received the support of the other side. The member for Mandurah will remember that the community wanted some land between Singleton and Madora Bay, which had been zoned urban development, to remain as a green belt. The government made the decision in 2001 that the best planning for both Peel and Perth required that this land remain as a green belt. That has happened. I make the point, as will be made again later today, that no-one is suggesting that the land in question has no development potential. The structure plan is very clear in saying that this previously rural land has great potential for tourism development, with some supplementary residential development to service the tourism facility.
(1)-(2) I presume that the Leader of the Opposition has done his research and can quantify that claim. Is the Leader of the Opposition able to do that? Will the Leader of the Opposition provide some documents during the debate on this issue today? Mr M.J. Birney : If it were $10, the principle would still be the same. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : So the sum of money involved does not matter! That is good; it is important that that is made clear. A debate will occur later today during which we will set out the case. As I have explained, the rezoning has not yet occurred. There will be a formal process. A recommendation was made in a structure plan that the zoning for this area be changed. As I have said, there is merit in that recommendation. Mr M.J. Birney : What about the money this mob has spent? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : At the end of the day, it is about making sure that we achieve a good result for the community. When people in this state get the benefit of an upzoning, they by and large receive a windfall profit. When land is downzoned, there is a reduction in property value. It is perhaps unusual for such a large property to be downzoned. However, I note that the other side of politics agreed with us when we downzoned - Mr M.J. Birney : This is an intrusion on people’s private property rights. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am opposed to what you are doing in Moore River. These people have spent millions of dollars. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am certainly opposed to the downzoning in Moore River. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We receive applications from Melville, South Perth and Subiaco for properties to be downzoned. There are some precedents for this process, which I understand received the support of the other side. The member for Mandurah will remember that the community wanted some land between Singleton and Madora Bay, which had been zoned urban development, to remain as a green belt. The government made the decision in 2001 that the best planning for both Peel and Perth required that this land remain as a green belt. That has happened. I make the point, as will be made again later today, that no-one is suggesting that the land in question has no development potential. The structure plan is very clear in saying that this previously rural land has great potential for tourism development, with some supplementary residential development to service the tourism facility.
Mr M.J. Birney : If it were $10, the principle would still be the same. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : So the sum of money involved does not matter! That is good; it is important that that is made clear. A debate will occur later today during which we will set out the case. As I have explained, the rezoning has not yet occurred. There will be a formal process. A recommendation was made in a structure plan that the zoning for this area be changed. As I have said, there is merit in that recommendation. Mr M.J. Birney : What about the money this mob has spent? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : At the end of the day, it is about making sure that we achieve a good result for the community. When people in this state get the benefit of an upzoning, they by and large receive a windfall profit. When land is downzoned, there is a reduction in property value. It is perhaps unusual for such a large property to be downzoned. However, I note that the other side of politics agreed with us when we downzoned - Mr M.J. Birney : This is an intrusion on people’s private property rights. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am opposed to what you are doing in Moore River. These people have spent millions of dollars. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am certainly opposed to the downzoning in Moore River. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We receive applications from Melville, South Perth and Subiaco for properties to be downzoned. There are some precedents for this process, which I understand received the support of the other side. The member for Mandurah will remember that the community wanted some land between Singleton and Madora Bay, which had been zoned urban development, to remain as a green belt. The government made the decision in 2001 that the best planning for both Peel and Perth required that this land remain as a green belt. That has happened. I make the point, as will be made again later today, that no-one is suggesting that the land in question has no development potential. The structure plan is very clear in saying that this previously rural land has great potential for tourism development, with some supplementary residential development to service the tourism facility.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : So the sum of money involved does not matter! That is good; it is important that that is made clear. A debate will occur later today during which we will set out the case. As I have explained, the rezoning has not yet occurred. There will be a formal process. A recommendation was made in a structure plan that the zoning for this area be changed. As I have said, there is merit in that recommendation. Mr M.J. Birney : What about the money this mob has spent? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : At the end of the day, it is about making sure that we achieve a good result for the community. When people in this state get the benefit of an upzoning, they by and large receive a windfall profit. When land is downzoned, there is a reduction in property value. It is perhaps unusual for such a large property to be downzoned. However, I note that the other side of politics agreed with us when we downzoned - Mr M.J. Birney : This is an intrusion on people’s private property rights. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am opposed to what you are doing in Moore River. These people have spent millions of dollars. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am certainly opposed to the downzoning in Moore River. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We receive applications from Melville, South Perth and Subiaco for properties to be downzoned. There are some precedents for this process, which I understand received the support of the other side. The member for Mandurah will remember that the community wanted some land between Singleton and Madora Bay, which had been zoned urban development, to remain as a green belt. The government made the decision in 2001 that the best planning for both Peel and Perth required that this land remain as a green belt. That has happened. I make the point, as will be made again later today, that no-one is suggesting that the land in question has no development potential. The structure plan is very clear in saying that this previously rural land has great potential for tourism development, with some supplementary residential development to service the tourism facility.
Mr M.J. Birney : What about the money this mob has spent? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : At the end of the day, it is about making sure that we achieve a good result for the community. When people in this state get the benefit of an upzoning, they by and large receive a windfall profit. When land is downzoned, there is a reduction in property value. It is perhaps unusual for such a large property to be downzoned. However, I note that the other side of politics agreed with us when we downzoned - Mr M.J. Birney : This is an intrusion on people’s private property rights. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am opposed to what you are doing in Moore River. These people have spent millions of dollars. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am certainly opposed to the downzoning in Moore River. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We receive applications from Melville, South Perth and Subiaco for properties to be downzoned. There are some precedents for this process, which I understand received the support of the other side. The member for Mandurah will remember that the community wanted some land between Singleton and Madora Bay, which had been zoned urban development, to remain as a green belt. The government made the decision in 2001 that the best planning for both Peel and Perth required that this land remain as a green belt. That has happened. I make the point, as will be made again later today, that no-one is suggesting that the land in question has no development potential. The structure plan is very clear in saying that this previously rural land has great potential for tourism development, with some supplementary residential development to service the tourism facility.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : At the end of the day, it is about making sure that we achieve a good result for the community. When people in this state get the benefit of an upzoning, they by and large receive a windfall profit. When land is downzoned, there is a reduction in property value. It is perhaps unusual for such a large property to be downzoned. However, I note that the other side of politics agreed with us when we downzoned - Mr M.J. Birney : This is an intrusion on people’s private property rights. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am opposed to what you are doing in Moore River. These people have spent millions of dollars. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am certainly opposed to the downzoning in Moore River. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We receive applications from Melville, South Perth and Subiaco for properties to be downzoned. There are some precedents for this process, which I understand received the support of the other side. The member for Mandurah will remember that the community wanted some land between Singleton and Madora Bay, which had been zoned urban development, to remain as a green belt. The government made the decision in 2001 that the best planning for both Peel and Perth required that this land remain as a green belt. That has happened. I make the point, as will be made again later today, that no-one is suggesting that the land in question has no development potential. The structure plan is very clear in saying that this previously rural land has great potential for tourism development, with some supplementary residential development to service the tourism facility.
When people in this state get the benefit of an upzoning, they by and large receive a windfall profit. When land is downzoned, there is a reduction in property value. It is perhaps unusual for such a large property to be downzoned. However, I note that the other side of politics agreed with us when we downzoned - Mr M.J. Birney : This is an intrusion on people’s private property rights. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am opposed to what you are doing in Moore River. These people have spent millions of dollars. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am certainly opposed to the downzoning in Moore River. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We receive applications from Melville, South Perth and Subiaco for properties to be downzoned. There are some precedents for this process, which I understand received the support of the other side. The member for Mandurah will remember that the community wanted some land between Singleton and Madora Bay, which had been zoned urban development, to remain as a green belt. The government made the decision in 2001 that the best planning for both Peel and Perth required that this land remain as a green belt. That has happened. I make the point, as will be made again later today, that no-one is suggesting that the land in question has no development potential. The structure plan is very clear in saying that this previously rural land has great potential for tourism development, with some supplementary residential development to service the tourism facility.
Mr M.J. Birney : This is an intrusion on people’s private property rights. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am opposed to what you are doing in Moore River. These people have spent millions of dollars. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am certainly opposed to the downzoning in Moore River. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We receive applications from Melville, South Perth and Subiaco for properties to be downzoned. There are some precedents for this process, which I understand received the support of the other side. The member for Mandurah will remember that the community wanted some land between Singleton and Madora Bay, which had been zoned urban development, to remain as a green belt. The government made the decision in 2001 that the best planning for both Peel and Perth required that this land remain as a green belt. That has happened. I make the point, as will be made again later today, that no-one is suggesting that the land in question has no development potential. The structure plan is very clear in saying that this previously rural land has great potential for tourism development, with some supplementary residential development to service the tourism facility.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am opposed to what you are doing in Moore River. These people have spent millions of dollars. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am certainly opposed to the downzoning in Moore River. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We receive applications from Melville, South Perth and Subiaco for properties to be downzoned. There are some precedents for this process, which I understand received the support of the other side. The member for Mandurah will remember that the community wanted some land between Singleton and Madora Bay, which had been zoned urban development, to remain as a green belt. The government made the decision in 2001 that the best planning for both Peel and Perth required that this land remain as a green belt. That has happened. I make the point, as will be made again later today, that no-one is suggesting that the land in question has no development potential. The structure plan is very clear in saying that this previously rural land has great potential for tourism development, with some supplementary residential development to service the tourism facility.
Mr M.J. Birney : I am opposed to what you are doing in Moore River. These people have spent millions of dollars. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am certainly opposed to the downzoning in Moore River. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We receive applications from Melville, South Perth and Subiaco for properties to be downzoned. There are some precedents for this process, which I understand received the support of the other side. The member for Mandurah will remember that the community wanted some land between Singleton and Madora Bay, which had been zoned urban development, to remain as a green belt. The government made the decision in 2001 that the best planning for both Peel and Perth required that this land remain as a green belt. That has happened. I make the point, as will be made again later today, that no-one is suggesting that the land in question has no development potential. The structure plan is very clear in saying that this previously rural land has great potential for tourism development, with some supplementary residential development to service the tourism facility.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Is the Leader of the Opposition opposed to all downzoning? Mr M.J. Birney : I am certainly opposed to the downzoning in Moore River. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We receive applications from Melville, South Perth and Subiaco for properties to be downzoned. There are some precedents for this process, which I understand received the support of the other side. The member for Mandurah will remember that the community wanted some land between Singleton and Madora Bay, which had been zoned urban development, to remain as a green belt. The government made the decision in 2001 that the best planning for both Peel and Perth required that this land remain as a green belt. That has happened. I make the point, as will be made again later today, that no-one is suggesting that the land in question has no development potential. The structure plan is very clear in saying that this previously rural land has great potential for tourism development, with some supplementary residential development to service the tourism facility.
Mr M.J. Birney : I am certainly opposed to the downzoning in Moore River. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We receive applications from Melville, South Perth and Subiaco for properties to be downzoned. There are some precedents for this process, which I understand received the support of the other side. The member for Mandurah will remember that the community wanted some land between Singleton and Madora Bay, which had been zoned urban development, to remain as a green belt. The government made the decision in 2001 that the best planning for both Peel and Perth required that this land remain as a green belt. That has happened. I make the point, as will be made again later today, that no-one is suggesting that the land in question has no development potential. The structure plan is very clear in saying that this previously rural land has great potential for tourism development, with some supplementary residential development to service the tourism facility.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We receive applications from Melville, South Perth and Subiaco for properties to be downzoned. There are some precedents for this process, which I understand received the support of the other side. The member for Mandurah will remember that the community wanted some land between Singleton and Madora Bay, which had been zoned urban development, to remain as a green belt. The government made the decision in 2001 that the best planning for both Peel and Perth required that this land remain as a green belt. That has happened. I make the point, as will be made again later today, that no-one is suggesting that the land in question has no development potential. The structure plan is very clear in saying that this previously rural land has great potential for tourism development, with some supplementary residential development to service the tourism facility.
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