❓ Question regarding cooperation with the Keelty inquiry into the Roleystone-Kelmscott bushfires, specifically why a summons was needed to obtain the Stuart Ellis report from FESA. The Minister denies instructing FESA and explains the board's authority.
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ROLEYSTONE–KELMSCOTT BUSHFIRES — DRAFT MAJOR INCIDENT REVIEW
I have a supplementary question. Can the minister explain whether he has instructed the Fire and Emergency Services Authority to give Mr Keelty full cooperation in his inquiry; and, if so, why is it that Mr Keelty has had to summons from FESA a copy of the Stuart Ellis report? Mr R.F. JOHNSON
I have a supplementary question. Can the minister explain whether he has instructed the Fire and Emergency Services Authority to give Mr Keelty full cooperation in his inquiry; and, if so, why is it that Mr Keelty has had to summons from FESA a copy of the Stuart Ellis report? Mr R.F. JOHNSON
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I have not instructed FESA to do anything — Opposition members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Don’t be stupid—I have not given them an instruction. If I give them an instruction, I have to table it in Parliament. I have not instructed them to do something. FESA behaves very responsibly. Opposition members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Is all this a joke to you? It obviously is. As far as any cooperation with Mr Keelty, I am aware that FESA is more than happy to cooperate with Mr Keelty, and will do so. Ms M.M. Quirk : Why did he have to summons FESA to get a copy of the Ellis report? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA had to get board approval for that to happen before the final report. As far as I understand, a summons was issued. I only found out yesterday that he issued a summons, I assume, for the draft report. Ms M.M. Quirk : I do not know—it is in your office, not mine! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It must be the draft report. That would be — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is pretty extraordinary that a summons had to be issued. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The Leader of the Opposition does not know all the history. When a board has certain authority, it is up to the board members whether they provide that draft report. He summonsed it, from details I received yesterday, and he would have that report by now.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: I have not instructed FESA to do anything — Opposition members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Don’t be stupid—I have not given them an instruction. If I give them an instruction, I have to table it in Parliament. I have not instructed them to do something. FESA behaves very responsibly. Opposition members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Is all this a joke to you? It obviously is. As far as any cooperation with Mr Keelty, I am aware that FESA is more than happy to cooperate with Mr Keelty, and will do so. Ms M.M. Quirk : Why did he have to summons FESA to get a copy of the Ellis report? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA had to get board approval for that to happen before the final report. As far as I understand, a summons was issued. I only found out yesterday that he issued a summons, I assume, for the draft report. Ms M.M. Quirk : I do not know—it is in your office, not mine! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It must be the draft report. That would be — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is pretty extraordinary that a summons had to be issued. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The Leader of the Opposition does not know all the history. When a board has certain authority, it is up to the board members whether they provide that draft report. He summonsed it, from details I received yesterday, and he would have that report by now.
I have not instructed FESA to do anything — Opposition members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Don’t be stupid—I have not given them an instruction. If I give them an instruction, I have to table it in Parliament. I have not instructed them to do something. FESA behaves very responsibly. Opposition members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Is all this a joke to you? It obviously is. As far as any cooperation with Mr Keelty, I am aware that FESA is more than happy to cooperate with Mr Keelty, and will do so. Ms M.M. Quirk : Why did he have to summons FESA to get a copy of the Ellis report? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA had to get board approval for that to happen before the final report. As far as I understand, a summons was issued. I only found out yesterday that he issued a summons, I assume, for the draft report. Ms M.M. Quirk : I do not know—it is in your office, not mine! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It must be the draft report. That would be — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is pretty extraordinary that a summons had to be issued. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The Leader of the Opposition does not know all the history. When a board has certain authority, it is up to the board members whether they provide that draft report. He summonsed it, from details I received yesterday, and he would have that report by now.
Opposition members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Don’t be stupid—I have not given them an instruction. If I give them an instruction, I have to table it in Parliament. I have not instructed them to do something. FESA behaves very responsibly. Opposition members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Is all this a joke to you? It obviously is. As far as any cooperation with Mr Keelty, I am aware that FESA is more than happy to cooperate with Mr Keelty, and will do so. Ms M.M. Quirk : Why did he have to summons FESA to get a copy of the Ellis report? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA had to get board approval for that to happen before the final report. As far as I understand, a summons was issued. I only found out yesterday that he issued a summons, I assume, for the draft report. Ms M.M. Quirk : I do not know—it is in your office, not mine! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It must be the draft report. That would be — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is pretty extraordinary that a summons had to be issued. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The Leader of the Opposition does not know all the history. When a board has certain authority, it is up to the board members whether they provide that draft report. He summonsed it, from details I received yesterday, and he would have that report by now.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Don’t be stupid—I have not given them an instruction. If I give them an instruction, I have to table it in Parliament. I have not instructed them to do something. FESA behaves very responsibly. Opposition members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Is all this a joke to you? It obviously is. As far as any cooperation with Mr Keelty, I am aware that FESA is more than happy to cooperate with Mr Keelty, and will do so. Ms M.M. Quirk : Why did he have to summons FESA to get a copy of the Ellis report? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA had to get board approval for that to happen before the final report. As far as I understand, a summons was issued. I only found out yesterday that he issued a summons, I assume, for the draft report. Ms M.M. Quirk : I do not know—it is in your office, not mine! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It must be the draft report. That would be — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is pretty extraordinary that a summons had to be issued. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The Leader of the Opposition does not know all the history. When a board has certain authority, it is up to the board members whether they provide that draft report. He summonsed it, from details I received yesterday, and he would have that report by now.
Opposition members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Is all this a joke to you? It obviously is. As far as any cooperation with Mr Keelty, I am aware that FESA is more than happy to cooperate with Mr Keelty, and will do so. Ms M.M. Quirk : Why did he have to summons FESA to get a copy of the Ellis report? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA had to get board approval for that to happen before the final report. As far as I understand, a summons was issued. I only found out yesterday that he issued a summons, I assume, for the draft report. Ms M.M. Quirk : I do not know—it is in your office, not mine! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It must be the draft report. That would be — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is pretty extraordinary that a summons had to be issued. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The Leader of the Opposition does not know all the history. When a board has certain authority, it is up to the board members whether they provide that draft report. He summonsed it, from details I received yesterday, and he would have that report by now.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Is all this a joke to you? It obviously is. As far as any cooperation with Mr Keelty, I am aware that FESA is more than happy to cooperate with Mr Keelty, and will do so. Ms M.M. Quirk : Why did he have to summons FESA to get a copy of the Ellis report? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA had to get board approval for that to happen before the final report. As far as I understand, a summons was issued. I only found out yesterday that he issued a summons, I assume, for the draft report. Ms M.M. Quirk : I do not know—it is in your office, not mine! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It must be the draft report. That would be — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is pretty extraordinary that a summons had to be issued. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The Leader of the Opposition does not know all the history. When a board has certain authority, it is up to the board members whether they provide that draft report. He summonsed it, from details I received yesterday, and he would have that report by now.
As far as any cooperation with Mr Keelty, I am aware that FESA is more than happy to cooperate with Mr Keelty, and will do so. Ms M.M. Quirk : Why did he have to summons FESA to get a copy of the Ellis report? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA had to get board approval for that to happen before the final report. As far as I understand, a summons was issued. I only found out yesterday that he issued a summons, I assume, for the draft report. Ms M.M. Quirk : I do not know—it is in your office, not mine! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It must be the draft report. That would be — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is pretty extraordinary that a summons had to be issued. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The Leader of the Opposition does not know all the history. When a board has certain authority, it is up to the board members whether they provide that draft report. He summonsed it, from details I received yesterday, and he would have that report by now.
Ms M.M. Quirk : Why did he have to summons FESA to get a copy of the Ellis report? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA had to get board approval for that to happen before the final report. As far as I understand, a summons was issued. I only found out yesterday that he issued a summons, I assume, for the draft report. Ms M.M. Quirk : I do not know—it is in your office, not mine! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It must be the draft report. That would be — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is pretty extraordinary that a summons had to be issued. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The Leader of the Opposition does not know all the history. When a board has certain authority, it is up to the board members whether they provide that draft report. He summonsed it, from details I received yesterday, and he would have that report by now.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA had to get board approval for that to happen before the final report. As far as I understand, a summons was issued. I only found out yesterday that he issued a summons, I assume, for the draft report. Ms M.M. Quirk : I do not know—it is in your office, not mine! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It must be the draft report. That would be — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is pretty extraordinary that a summons had to be issued. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The Leader of the Opposition does not know all the history. When a board has certain authority, it is up to the board members whether they provide that draft report. He summonsed it, from details I received yesterday, and he would have that report by now.
Ms M.M. Quirk : I do not know—it is in your office, not mine! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It must be the draft report. That would be — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is pretty extraordinary that a summons had to be issued. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The Leader of the Opposition does not know all the history. When a board has certain authority, it is up to the board members whether they provide that draft report. He summonsed it, from details I received yesterday, and he would have that report by now.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It must be the draft report. That would be — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is pretty extraordinary that a summons had to be issued. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The Leader of the Opposition does not know all the history. When a board has certain authority, it is up to the board members whether they provide that draft report. He summonsed it, from details I received yesterday, and he would have that report by now.
Mr E.S. Ripper : It is pretty extraordinary that a summons had to be issued. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The Leader of the Opposition does not know all the history. When a board has certain authority, it is up to the board members whether they provide that draft report. He summonsed it, from details I received yesterday, and he would have that report by now.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The Leader of the Opposition does not know all the history. When a board has certain authority, it is up to the board members whether they provide that draft report. He summonsed it, from details I received yesterday, and he would have that report by now.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: I have not instructed FESA to do anything — Opposition members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Don’t be stupid—I have not given them an instruction. If I give them an instruction, I have to table it in Parliament. I have not instructed them to do something. FESA behaves very responsibly. Opposition members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Is all this a joke to you? It obviously is. As far as any cooperation with Mr Keelty, I am aware that FESA is more than happy to cooperate with Mr Keelty, and will do so. Ms M.M. Quirk : Why did he have to summons FESA to get a copy of the Ellis report? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA had to get board approval for that to happen before the final report. As far as I understand, a summons was issued. I only found out yesterday that he issued a summons, I assume, for the draft report. Ms M.M. Quirk : I do not know—it is in your office, not mine! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It must be the draft report. That would be — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is pretty extraordinary that a summons had to be issued. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The Leader of the Opposition does not know all the history. When a board has certain authority, it is up to the board members whether they provide that draft report. He summonsed it, from details I received yesterday, and he would have that report by now.
I have not instructed FESA to do anything — Opposition members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Don’t be stupid—I have not given them an instruction. If I give them an instruction, I have to table it in Parliament. I have not instructed them to do something. FESA behaves very responsibly. Opposition members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Is all this a joke to you? It obviously is. As far as any cooperation with Mr Keelty, I am aware that FESA is more than happy to cooperate with Mr Keelty, and will do so. Ms M.M. Quirk : Why did he have to summons FESA to get a copy of the Ellis report? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA had to get board approval for that to happen before the final report. As far as I understand, a summons was issued. I only found out yesterday that he issued a summons, I assume, for the draft report. Ms M.M. Quirk : I do not know—it is in your office, not mine! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It must be the draft report. That would be — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is pretty extraordinary that a summons had to be issued. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The Leader of the Opposition does not know all the history. When a board has certain authority, it is up to the board members whether they provide that draft report. He summonsed it, from details I received yesterday, and he would have that report by now.
Opposition members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Don’t be stupid—I have not given them an instruction. If I give them an instruction, I have to table it in Parliament. I have not instructed them to do something. FESA behaves very responsibly. Opposition members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Is all this a joke to you? It obviously is. As far as any cooperation with Mr Keelty, I am aware that FESA is more than happy to cooperate with Mr Keelty, and will do so. Ms M.M. Quirk : Why did he have to summons FESA to get a copy of the Ellis report? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA had to get board approval for that to happen before the final report. As far as I understand, a summons was issued. I only found out yesterday that he issued a summons, I assume, for the draft report. Ms M.M. Quirk : I do not know—it is in your office, not mine! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It must be the draft report. That would be — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is pretty extraordinary that a summons had to be issued. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The Leader of the Opposition does not know all the history. When a board has certain authority, it is up to the board members whether they provide that draft report. He summonsed it, from details I received yesterday, and he would have that report by now.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Don’t be stupid—I have not given them an instruction. If I give them an instruction, I have to table it in Parliament. I have not instructed them to do something. FESA behaves very responsibly. Opposition members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Is all this a joke to you? It obviously is. As far as any cooperation with Mr Keelty, I am aware that FESA is more than happy to cooperate with Mr Keelty, and will do so. Ms M.M. Quirk : Why did he have to summons FESA to get a copy of the Ellis report? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA had to get board approval for that to happen before the final report. As far as I understand, a summons was issued. I only found out yesterday that he issued a summons, I assume, for the draft report. Ms M.M. Quirk : I do not know—it is in your office, not mine! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It must be the draft report. That would be — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is pretty extraordinary that a summons had to be issued. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The Leader of the Opposition does not know all the history. When a board has certain authority, it is up to the board members whether they provide that draft report. He summonsed it, from details I received yesterday, and he would have that report by now.
Opposition members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Is all this a joke to you? It obviously is. As far as any cooperation with Mr Keelty, I am aware that FESA is more than happy to cooperate with Mr Keelty, and will do so. Ms M.M. Quirk : Why did he have to summons FESA to get a copy of the Ellis report? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA had to get board approval for that to happen before the final report. As far as I understand, a summons was issued. I only found out yesterday that he issued a summons, I assume, for the draft report. Ms M.M. Quirk : I do not know—it is in your office, not mine! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It must be the draft report. That would be — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is pretty extraordinary that a summons had to be issued. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The Leader of the Opposition does not know all the history. When a board has certain authority, it is up to the board members whether they provide that draft report. He summonsed it, from details I received yesterday, and he would have that report by now.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Is all this a joke to you? It obviously is. As far as any cooperation with Mr Keelty, I am aware that FESA is more than happy to cooperate with Mr Keelty, and will do so. Ms M.M. Quirk : Why did he have to summons FESA to get a copy of the Ellis report? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA had to get board approval for that to happen before the final report. As far as I understand, a summons was issued. I only found out yesterday that he issued a summons, I assume, for the draft report. Ms M.M. Quirk : I do not know—it is in your office, not mine! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It must be the draft report. That would be — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is pretty extraordinary that a summons had to be issued. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The Leader of the Opposition does not know all the history. When a board has certain authority, it is up to the board members whether they provide that draft report. He summonsed it, from details I received yesterday, and he would have that report by now.
As far as any cooperation with Mr Keelty, I am aware that FESA is more than happy to cooperate with Mr Keelty, and will do so. Ms M.M. Quirk : Why did he have to summons FESA to get a copy of the Ellis report? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA had to get board approval for that to happen before the final report. As far as I understand, a summons was issued. I only found out yesterday that he issued a summons, I assume, for the draft report. Ms M.M. Quirk : I do not know—it is in your office, not mine! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It must be the draft report. That would be — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is pretty extraordinary that a summons had to be issued. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The Leader of the Opposition does not know all the history. When a board has certain authority, it is up to the board members whether they provide that draft report. He summonsed it, from details I received yesterday, and he would have that report by now.
Ms M.M. Quirk : Why did he have to summons FESA to get a copy of the Ellis report? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA had to get board approval for that to happen before the final report. As far as I understand, a summons was issued. I only found out yesterday that he issued a summons, I assume, for the draft report. Ms M.M. Quirk : I do not know—it is in your office, not mine! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It must be the draft report. That would be — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is pretty extraordinary that a summons had to be issued. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The Leader of the Opposition does not know all the history. When a board has certain authority, it is up to the board members whether they provide that draft report. He summonsed it, from details I received yesterday, and he would have that report by now.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA had to get board approval for that to happen before the final report. As far as I understand, a summons was issued. I only found out yesterday that he issued a summons, I assume, for the draft report. Ms M.M. Quirk : I do not know—it is in your office, not mine! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It must be the draft report. That would be — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is pretty extraordinary that a summons had to be issued. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The Leader of the Opposition does not know all the history. When a board has certain authority, it is up to the board members whether they provide that draft report. He summonsed it, from details I received yesterday, and he would have that report by now.
Ms M.M. Quirk : I do not know—it is in your office, not mine! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It must be the draft report. That would be — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is pretty extraordinary that a summons had to be issued. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The Leader of the Opposition does not know all the history. When a board has certain authority, it is up to the board members whether they provide that draft report. He summonsed it, from details I received yesterday, and he would have that report by now.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It must be the draft report. That would be — Mr E.S. Ripper : It is pretty extraordinary that a summons had to be issued. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The Leader of the Opposition does not know all the history. When a board has certain authority, it is up to the board members whether they provide that draft report. He summonsed it, from details I received yesterday, and he would have that report by now.
Mr E.S. Ripper : It is pretty extraordinary that a summons had to be issued. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The Leader of the Opposition does not know all the history. When a board has certain authority, it is up to the board members whether they provide that draft report. He summonsed it, from details I received yesterday, and he would have that report by now.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The Leader of the Opposition does not know all the history. When a board has certain authority, it is up to the board members whether they provide that draft report. He summonsed it, from details I received yesterday, and he would have that report by now.
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