❓ Question regarding concerns that the federal government is repeating mistakes made with live cattle exports to Indonesia, with live sheep exports to the Middle East. The Minister responds, highlighting the importance of government engagement and supply chain assurance.
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LIVE SHEEP EXPORTS — MIDDLE EAST
The federal government made a disastrous decision earlier this year when it suspended live cattle exports to Indonesia without any consultation with the industry or the Indonesian government. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : For those who wish to interrupt, including the member for Joondalup, the member for Cockburn and the Minister for Agriculture and Food, I am going to formally call you all to order for the first time today. I will give the call back to the person asking the question, the member for Geraldton. Mr I.C. BLAYNEY : Is the minister concerned that the federal government is now repeating the same mistakes with live sheep exports to the Middle East? Mr E.S. Ripper : Just stick to a minute and a half! Mr D.T. REDMAN
The federal government made a disastrous decision earlier this year when it suspended live cattle exports to Indonesia without any consultation with the industry or the Indonesian government. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : For those who wish to interrupt, including the member for Joondalup, the member for Cockburn and the Minister for Agriculture and Food, I am going to formally call you all to order for the first time today. I will give the call back to the person asking the question, the member for Geraldton. Mr I.C. BLAYNEY : Is the minister concerned that the federal government is now repeating the same mistakes with live sheep exports to the Middle East? Mr E.S. Ripper : Just stick to a minute and a half! Mr D.T. REDMAN
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Just like the questions from the opposition! I thank the member for Geraldton for his question. He takes a lot of interest in this matter and on a number of occasions he has taken the time to speak with me about a range of issues presented to him by his constituency. The house is well and truly over the issue that we went through with the suspension of live trade to Indonesia. That impacted on not only our WA farmers but also our trade relationship with Indonesia. It is really interesting to find that the trade bump, which was a product of the federal government putting a ban on live exports in place without any notice, has had a significant impact on the confidence of the Middle Eastern market in Western Australian products, not only in the live trade area. We know that contracts are being put in place for the live sheep trade. In terms of the national input, Western Australia exports about 75 per cent of the live sheep market that goes into that area. The grain sector is also very concerned about the sovereign risk that those sorts of decisions pose, even though it is a very different sector. We need to be very, very careful that our reputation stands sound. I have reflected the very strong concern I have about the Indonesian marketplace. The Farmer review has come out; a review was done by Bill Farmer, the immediate past Ambassador to Indonesia, to look at the whole live trade market and the challenges we face in trying to put a quality assured process into the Middle East — Mr M.P. Murray : So you support the federal government on that? Mr D.T. REDMAN : I support a significant proportion of the recommendations that have come out of the Farmer review and I also support achieving good animal welfare outcomes in those market sectors—absolutely. Let us look at how the federal government is taking — Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. If you want to ask a question, seek the call. Mr D.T. REDMAN : One thing that is really clear in these marketplaces is that we cannot take a one-size-fits-all approach. We cannot necessarily expect the learnings from the Indonesian market example to apply to the very diverse marketplaces in the Middle East. Some of the early recommendations of the federal government in response to the Farmer review have shown some of that diversity, and that is certainly very pleasing. The very early stages of negotiations with these markets are now taking place to determine the requirements of exporters from Western Australia to ensure supply chain compliance right the way through to the slaughtering process. Some huge challenges sit out there. It is important to acknowledge that it is not good enough to simply allow the industry-to-industry discussion to happen. It is really, really important that government engages at the highest level to ensure that a level of government authority sits above the business-to-business approach. It is important to ensure that those changes are put in place with a full understanding of what is trying to be achieved through a consultative process with those governments, rather than Australia once again putting a compliance rule on another country without fully engaging at the level of diplomacy that should be engaged at for these sorts of market outcomes; that is simply not happening. We have not seen a federal minister go to the Middle East to ensure that the discussions at the government-to-government level are happening to give authority to the good work that people are trying to do at an industry-to-industry level. No learnings have been taken from the Indonesian example. We are now at the early stages of getting a level of supply chain assurance in a very, very different marketplace that requires a different level of approach. From reading the feedback from industry and from our own trade office in the Middle East, this is not happening at the level at which it should happen. I send a very strong signal to the federal government that it needs to engage at an appropriate level to ensure that we do not have a repeat of what happened in Indonesia. If not, it will deliver not only bad outcomes from an animal welfare perspective but also a significant impact on the very long business relationship in the live export trade we have had with the Middle East since the 1970s. The last thing we want now is a lack of support from the federal government. The federal government should become involved at a government-to-government level to ensure that we get good outcomes for animal welfare and good outcomes for the longevity of what is a strong market for our farmers in Western Australia.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : For those who wish to interrupt, including the member for Joondalup, the member for Cockburn and the Minister for Agriculture and Food, I am going to formally call you all to order for the first time today. I will give the call back to the person asking the question, the member for Geraldton. Mr I.C. BLAYNEY : Is the minister concerned that the federal government is now repeating the same mistakes with live sheep exports to the Middle East? Mr E.S. Ripper : Just stick to a minute and a half! Mr D.T. REDMAN replied: Just like the questions from the opposition! I thank the member for Geraldton for his question. He takes a lot of interest in this matter and on a number of occasions he has taken the time to speak with me about a range of issues presented to him by his constituency. The house is well and truly over the issue that we went through with the suspension of live trade to Indonesia. That impacted on not only our WA farmers but also our trade relationship with Indonesia. It is really interesting to find that the trade bump, which was a product of the federal government putting a ban on live exports in place without any notice, has had a significant impact on the confidence of the Middle Eastern market in Western Australian products, not only in the live trade area. We know that contracts are being put in place for the live sheep trade. In terms of the national input, Western Australia exports about 75 per cent of the live sheep market that goes into that area. The grain sector is also very concerned about the sovereign risk that those sorts of decisions pose, even though it is a very different sector. We need to be very, very careful that our reputation stands sound. I have reflected the very strong concern I have about the Indonesian marketplace. The Farmer review has come out; a review was done by Bill Farmer, the immediate past Ambassador to Indonesia, to look at the whole live trade market and the challenges we face in trying to put a quality assured process into the Middle East — Mr M.P. Murray : So you support the federal government on that? Mr D.T. REDMAN : I support a significant proportion of the recommendations that have come out of the Farmer review and I also support achieving good animal welfare outcomes in those market sectors—absolutely. Let us look at how the federal government is taking — Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. If you want to ask a question, seek the call. Mr D.T. REDMAN : One thing that is really clear in these marketplaces is that we cannot take a one-size-fits-all approach. We cannot necessarily expect the learnings from the Indonesian market example to apply to the very diverse marketplaces in the Middle East. Some of the early recommendations of the federal government in response to the Farmer review have shown some of that diversity, and that is certainly very pleasing. The very early stages of negotiations with these markets are now taking place to determine the requirements of exporters from Western Australia to ensure supply chain compliance right the way through to the slaughtering process. Some huge challenges sit out there. It is important to acknowledge that it is not good enough to simply allow the industry-to-industry discussion to happen. It is really, really important that government engages at the highest level to ensure that a level of government authority sits above the business-to-business approach. It is important to ensure that those changes are put in place with a full understanding of what is trying to be achieved through a consultative process with those governments, rather than Australia once again putting a compliance rule on another country without fully engaging at the level of diplomacy that should be engaged at for these sorts of market outcomes; that is simply not happening. We have not seen a federal minister go to the Middle East to ensure that the discussions at the government-to-government level are happening to give authority to the good work that people are trying to do at an industry-to-industry level. No learnings have been taken from the Indonesian example. We are now at the early stages of getting a level of supply chain assurance in a very, very different marketplace that requires a different level of approach. From reading the feedback from industry and from our own trade office in the Middle East, this is not happening at the level at which it should happen. I send a very strong signal to the federal government that it needs to engage at an appropriate level to ensure that we do not have a repeat of what happened in Indonesia. If not, it will deliver not only bad outcomes from an animal welfare perspective but also a significant impact on the very long business relationship in the live export trade we have had with the Middle East since the 1970s. The last thing we want now is a lack of support from the federal government. The federal government should become involved at a government-to-government level to ensure that we get good outcomes for animal welfare and good outcomes for the longevity of what is a strong market for our farmers in Western Australia.
The SPEAKER : For those who wish to interrupt, including the member for Joondalup, the member for Cockburn and the Minister for Agriculture and Food, I am going to formally call you all to order for the first time today. I will give the call back to the person asking the question, the member for Geraldton. Mr I.C. BLAYNEY : Is the minister concerned that the federal government is now repeating the same mistakes with live sheep exports to the Middle East? Mr E.S. Ripper : Just stick to a minute and a half! Mr D.T. REDMAN replied: Just like the questions from the opposition! I thank the member for Geraldton for his question. He takes a lot of interest in this matter and on a number of occasions he has taken the time to speak with me about a range of issues presented to him by his constituency. The house is well and truly over the issue that we went through with the suspension of live trade to Indonesia. That impacted on not only our WA farmers but also our trade relationship with Indonesia. It is really interesting to find that the trade bump, which was a product of the federal government putting a ban on live exports in place without any notice, has had a significant impact on the confidence of the Middle Eastern market in Western Australian products, not only in the live trade area. We know that contracts are being put in place for the live sheep trade. In terms of the national input, Western Australia exports about 75 per cent of the live sheep market that goes into that area. The grain sector is also very concerned about the sovereign risk that those sorts of decisions pose, even though it is a very different sector. We need to be very, very careful that our reputation stands sound. I have reflected the very strong concern I have about the Indonesian marketplace. The Farmer review has come out; a review was done by Bill Farmer, the immediate past Ambassador to Indonesia, to look at the whole live trade market and the challenges we face in trying to put a quality assured process into the Middle East — Mr M.P. Murray : So you support the federal government on that? Mr D.T. REDMAN : I support a significant proportion of the recommendations that have come out of the Farmer review and I also support achieving good animal welfare outcomes in those market sectors—absolutely. Let us look at how the federal government is taking — Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. If you want to ask a question, seek the call. Mr D.T. REDMAN : One thing that is really clear in these marketplaces is that we cannot take a one-size-fits-all approach. We cannot necessarily expect the learnings from the Indonesian market example to apply to the very diverse marketplaces in the Middle East. Some of the early recommendations of the federal government in response to the Farmer review have shown some of that diversity, and that is certainly very pleasing. The very early stages of negotiations with these markets are now taking place to determine the requirements of exporters from Western Australia to ensure supply chain compliance right the way through to the slaughtering process. Some huge challenges sit out there. It is important to acknowledge that it is not good enough to simply allow the industry-to-industry discussion to happen. It is really, really important that government engages at the highest level to ensure that a level of government authority sits above the business-to-business approach. It is important to ensure that those changes are put in place with a full understanding of what is trying to be achieved through a consultative process with those governments, rather than Australia once again putting a compliance rule on another country without fully engaging at the level of diplomacy that should be engaged at for these sorts of market outcomes; that is simply not happening. We have not seen a federal minister go to the Middle East to ensure that the discussions at the government-to-government level are happening to give authority to the good work that people are trying to do at an industry-to-industry level. No learnings have been taken from the Indonesian example. We are now at the early stages of getting a level of supply chain assurance in a very, very different marketplace that requires a different level of approach. From reading the feedback from industry and from our own trade office in the Middle East, this is not happening at the level at which it should happen. I send a very strong signal to the federal government that it needs to engage at an appropriate level to ensure that we do not have a repeat of what happened in Indonesia. If not, it will deliver not only bad outcomes from an animal welfare perspective but also a significant impact on the very long business relationship in the live export trade we have had with the Middle East since the 1970s. The last thing we want now is a lack of support from the federal government. The federal government should become involved at a government-to-government level to ensure that we get good outcomes for animal welfare and good outcomes for the longevity of what is a strong market for our farmers in Western Australia.
Mr I.C. BLAYNEY : Is the minister concerned that the federal government is now repeating the same mistakes with live sheep exports to the Middle East? Mr E.S. Ripper : Just stick to a minute and a half! Mr D.T. REDMAN replied: Just like the questions from the opposition! I thank the member for Geraldton for his question. He takes a lot of interest in this matter and on a number of occasions he has taken the time to speak with me about a range of issues presented to him by his constituency. The house is well and truly over the issue that we went through with the suspension of live trade to Indonesia. That impacted on not only our WA farmers but also our trade relationship with Indonesia. It is really interesting to find that the trade bump, which was a product of the federal government putting a ban on live exports in place without any notice, has had a significant impact on the confidence of the Middle Eastern market in Western Australian products, not only in the live trade area. We know that contracts are being put in place for the live sheep trade. In terms of the national input, Western Australia exports about 75 per cent of the live sheep market that goes into that area. The grain sector is also very concerned about the sovereign risk that those sorts of decisions pose, even though it is a very different sector. We need to be very, very careful that our reputation stands sound. I have reflected the very strong concern I have about the Indonesian marketplace. The Farmer review has come out; a review was done by Bill Farmer, the immediate past Ambassador to Indonesia, to look at the whole live trade market and the challenges we face in trying to put a quality assured process into the Middle East — Mr M.P. Murray : So you support the federal government on that? Mr D.T. REDMAN : I support a significant proportion of the recommendations that have come out of the Farmer review and I also support achieving good animal welfare outcomes in those market sectors—absolutely. Let us look at how the federal government is taking — Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. If you want to ask a question, seek the call. Mr D.T. REDMAN : One thing that is really clear in these marketplaces is that we cannot take a one-size-fits-all approach. We cannot necessarily expect the learnings from the Indonesian market example to apply to the very diverse marketplaces in the Middle East. Some of the early recommendations of the federal government in response to the Farmer review have shown some of that diversity, and that is certainly very pleasing. The very early stages of negotiations with these markets are now taking place to determine the requirements of exporters from Western Australia to ensure supply chain compliance right the way through to the slaughtering process. Some huge challenges sit out there. It is important to acknowledge that it is not good enough to simply allow the industry-to-industry discussion to happen. It is really, really important that government engages at the highest level to ensure that a level of government authority sits above the business-to-business approach. It is important to ensure that those changes are put in place with a full understanding of what is trying to be achieved through a consultative process with those governments, rather than Australia once again putting a compliance rule on another country without fully engaging at the level of diplomacy that should be engaged at for these sorts of market outcomes; that is simply not happening. We have not seen a federal minister go to the Middle East to ensure that the discussions at the government-to-government level are happening to give authority to the good work that people are trying to do at an industry-to-industry level. No learnings have been taken from the Indonesian example. We are now at the early stages of getting a level of supply chain assurance in a very, very different marketplace that requires a different level of approach. From reading the feedback from industry and from our own trade office in the Middle East, this is not happening at the level at which it should happen. I send a very strong signal to the federal government that it needs to engage at an appropriate level to ensure that we do not have a repeat of what happened in Indonesia. If not, it will deliver not only bad outcomes from an animal welfare perspective but also a significant impact on the very long business relationship in the live export trade we have had with the Middle East since the 1970s. The last thing we want now is a lack of support from the federal government. The federal government should become involved at a government-to-government level to ensure that we get good outcomes for animal welfare and good outcomes for the longevity of what is a strong market for our farmers in Western Australia.
Mr E.S. Ripper : Just stick to a minute and a half! Mr D.T. REDMAN replied: Just like the questions from the opposition! I thank the member for Geraldton for his question. He takes a lot of interest in this matter and on a number of occasions he has taken the time to speak with me about a range of issues presented to him by his constituency. The house is well and truly over the issue that we went through with the suspension of live trade to Indonesia. That impacted on not only our WA farmers but also our trade relationship with Indonesia. It is really interesting to find that the trade bump, which was a product of the federal government putting a ban on live exports in place without any notice, has had a significant impact on the confidence of the Middle Eastern market in Western Australian products, not only in the live trade area. We know that contracts are being put in place for the live sheep trade. In terms of the national input, Western Australia exports about 75 per cent of the live sheep market that goes into that area. The grain sector is also very concerned about the sovereign risk that those sorts of decisions pose, even though it is a very different sector. We need to be very, very careful that our reputation stands sound. I have reflected the very strong concern I have about the Indonesian marketplace. The Farmer review has come out; a review was done by Bill Farmer, the immediate past Ambassador to Indonesia, to look at the whole live trade market and the challenges we face in trying to put a quality assured process into the Middle East — Mr M.P. Murray : So you support the federal government on that? Mr D.T. REDMAN : I support a significant proportion of the recommendations that have come out of the Farmer review and I also support achieving good animal welfare outcomes in those market sectors—absolutely. Let us look at how the federal government is taking — Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. If you want to ask a question, seek the call. Mr D.T. REDMAN : One thing that is really clear in these marketplaces is that we cannot take a one-size-fits-all approach. We cannot necessarily expect the learnings from the Indonesian market example to apply to the very diverse marketplaces in the Middle East. Some of the early recommendations of the federal government in response to the Farmer review have shown some of that diversity, and that is certainly very pleasing. The very early stages of negotiations with these markets are now taking place to determine the requirements of exporters from Western Australia to ensure supply chain compliance right the way through to the slaughtering process. Some huge challenges sit out there. It is important to acknowledge that it is not good enough to simply allow the industry-to-industry discussion to happen. It is really, really important that government engages at the highest level to ensure that a level of government authority sits above the business-to-business approach. It is important to ensure that those changes are put in place with a full understanding of what is trying to be achieved through a consultative process with those governments, rather than Australia once again putting a compliance rule on another country without fully engaging at the level of diplomacy that should be engaged at for these sorts of market outcomes; that is simply not happening. We have not seen a federal minister go to the Middle East to ensure that the discussions at the government-to-government level are happening to give authority to the good work that people are trying to do at an industry-to-industry level. No learnings have been taken from the Indonesian example. We are now at the early stages of getting a level of supply chain assurance in a very, very different marketplace that requires a different level of approach. From reading the feedback from industry and from our own trade office in the Middle East, this is not happening at the level at which it should happen. I send a very strong signal to the federal government that it needs to engage at an appropriate level to ensure that we do not have a repeat of what happened in Indonesia. If not, it will deliver not only bad outcomes from an animal welfare perspective but also a significant impact on the very long business relationship in the live export trade we have had with the Middle East since the 1970s. The last thing we want now is a lack of support from the federal government. The federal government should become involved at a government-to-government level to ensure that we get good outcomes for animal welfare and good outcomes for the longevity of what is a strong market for our farmers in Western Australia.
Mr D.T. REDMAN replied: Just like the questions from the opposition! I thank the member for Geraldton for his question. He takes a lot of interest in this matter and on a number of occasions he has taken the time to speak with me about a range of issues presented to him by his constituency. The house is well and truly over the issue that we went through with the suspension of live trade to Indonesia. That impacted on not only our WA farmers but also our trade relationship with Indonesia. It is really interesting to find that the trade bump, which was a product of the federal government putting a ban on live exports in place without any notice, has had a significant impact on the confidence of the Middle Eastern market in Western Australian products, not only in the live trade area. We know that contracts are being put in place for the live sheep trade. In terms of the national input, Western Australia exports about 75 per cent of the live sheep market that goes into that area. The grain sector is also very concerned about the sovereign risk that those sorts of decisions pose, even though it is a very different sector. We need to be very, very careful that our reputation stands sound. I have reflected the very strong concern I have about the Indonesian marketplace. The Farmer review has come out; a review was done by Bill Farmer, the immediate past Ambassador to Indonesia, to look at the whole live trade market and the challenges we face in trying to put a quality assured process into the Middle East — Mr M.P. Murray : So you support the federal government on that? Mr D.T. REDMAN : I support a significant proportion of the recommendations that have come out of the Farmer review and I also support achieving good animal welfare outcomes in those market sectors—absolutely. Let us look at how the federal government is taking — Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. If you want to ask a question, seek the call. Mr D.T. REDMAN : One thing that is really clear in these marketplaces is that we cannot take a one-size-fits-all approach. We cannot necessarily expect the learnings from the Indonesian market example to apply to the very diverse marketplaces in the Middle East. Some of the early recommendations of the federal government in response to the Farmer review have shown some of that diversity, and that is certainly very pleasing. The very early stages of negotiations with these markets are now taking place to determine the requirements of exporters from Western Australia to ensure supply chain compliance right the way through to the slaughtering process. Some huge challenges sit out there. It is important to acknowledge that it is not good enough to simply allow the industry-to-industry discussion to happen. It is really, really important that government engages at the highest level to ensure that a level of government authority sits above the business-to-business approach. It is important to ensure that those changes are put in place with a full understanding of what is trying to be achieved through a consultative process with those governments, rather than Australia once again putting a compliance rule on another country without fully engaging at the level of diplomacy that should be engaged at for these sorts of market outcomes; that is simply not happening. We have not seen a federal minister go to the Middle East to ensure that the discussions at the government-to-government level are happening to give authority to the good work that people are trying to do at an industry-to-industry level. No learnings have been taken from the Indonesian example. We are now at the early stages of getting a level of supply chain assurance in a very, very different marketplace that requires a different level of approach. From reading the feedback from industry and from our own trade office in the Middle East, this is not happening at the level at which it should happen. I send a very strong signal to the federal government that it needs to engage at an appropriate level to ensure that we do not have a repeat of what happened in Indonesia. If not, it will deliver not only bad outcomes from an animal welfare perspective but also a significant impact on the very long business relationship in the live export trade we have had with the Middle East since the 1970s. The last thing we want now is a lack of support from the federal government. The federal government should become involved at a government-to-government level to ensure that we get good outcomes for animal welfare and good outcomes for the longevity of what is a strong market for our farmers in Western Australia.
Just like the questions from the opposition! I thank the member for Geraldton for his question. He takes a lot of interest in this matter and on a number of occasions he has taken the time to speak with me about a range of issues presented to him by his constituency. The house is well and truly over the issue that we went through with the suspension of live trade to Indonesia. That impacted on not only our WA farmers but also our trade relationship with Indonesia. It is really interesting to find that the trade bump, which was a product of the federal government putting a ban on live exports in place without any notice, has had a significant impact on the confidence of the Middle Eastern market in Western Australian products, not only in the live trade area. We know that contracts are being put in place for the live sheep trade. In terms of the national input, Western Australia exports about 75 per cent of the live sheep market that goes into that area. The grain sector is also very concerned about the sovereign risk that those sorts of decisions pose, even though it is a very different sector. We need to be very, very careful that our reputation stands sound. I have reflected the very strong concern I have about the Indonesian marketplace. The Farmer review has come out; a review was done by Bill Farmer, the immediate past Ambassador to Indonesia, to look at the whole live trade market and the challenges we face in trying to put a quality assured process into the Middle East — Mr M.P. Murray : So you support the federal government on that? Mr D.T. REDMAN : I support a significant proportion of the recommendations that have come out of the Farmer review and I also support achieving good animal welfare outcomes in those market sectors—absolutely. Let us look at how the federal government is taking — Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. If you want to ask a question, seek the call. Mr D.T. REDMAN : One thing that is really clear in these marketplaces is that we cannot take a one-size-fits-all approach. We cannot necessarily expect the learnings from the Indonesian market example to apply to the very diverse marketplaces in the Middle East. Some of the early recommendations of the federal government in response to the Farmer review have shown some of that diversity, and that is certainly very pleasing. The very early stages of negotiations with these markets are now taking place to determine the requirements of exporters from Western Australia to ensure supply chain compliance right the way through to the slaughtering process. Some huge challenges sit out there. It is important to acknowledge that it is not good enough to simply allow the industry-to-industry discussion to happen. It is really, really important that government engages at the highest level to ensure that a level of government authority sits above the business-to-business approach. It is important to ensure that those changes are put in place with a full understanding of what is trying to be achieved through a consultative process with those governments, rather than Australia once again putting a compliance rule on another country without fully engaging at the level of diplomacy that should be engaged at for these sorts of market outcomes; that is simply not happening. We have not seen a federal minister go to the Middle East to ensure that the discussions at the government-to-government level are happening to give authority to the good work that people are trying to do at an industry-to-industry level. No learnings have been taken from the Indonesian example. We are now at the early stages of getting a level of supply chain assurance in a very, very different marketplace that requires a different level of approach. From reading the feedback from industry and from our own trade office in the Middle East, this is not happening at the level at which it should happen. I send a very strong signal to the federal government that it needs to engage at an appropriate level to ensure that we do not have a repeat of what happened in Indonesia. If not, it will deliver not only bad outcomes from an animal welfare perspective but also a significant impact on the very long business relationship in the live export trade we have had with the Middle East since the 1970s. The last thing we want now is a lack of support from the federal government. The federal government should become involved at a government-to-government level to ensure that we get good outcomes for animal welfare and good outcomes for the longevity of what is a strong market for our farmers in Western Australia.
I thank the member for Geraldton for his question. He takes a lot of interest in this matter and on a number of occasions he has taken the time to speak with me about a range of issues presented to him by his constituency. The house is well and truly over the issue that we went through with the suspension of live trade to Indonesia. That impacted on not only our WA farmers but also our trade relationship with Indonesia. It is really interesting to find that the trade bump, which was a product of the federal government putting a ban on live exports in place without any notice, has had a significant impact on the confidence of the Middle Eastern market in Western Australian products, not only in the live trade area. We know that contracts are being put in place for the live sheep trade. In terms of the national input, Western Australia exports about 75 per cent of the live sheep market that goes into that area. The grain sector is also very concerned about the sovereign risk that those sorts of decisions pose, even though it is a very different sector. We need to be very, very careful that our reputation stands sound. I have reflected the very strong concern I have about the Indonesian marketplace. The Farmer review has come out; a review was done by Bill Farmer, the immediate past Ambassador to Indonesia, to look at the whole live trade market and the challenges we face in trying to put a quality assured process into the Middle East — Mr M.P. Murray : So you support the federal government on that? Mr D.T. REDMAN : I support a significant proportion of the recommendations that have come out of the Farmer review and I also support achieving good animal welfare outcomes in those market sectors—absolutely. Let us look at how the federal government is taking — Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. If you want to ask a question, seek the call. Mr D.T. REDMAN : One thing that is really clear in these marketplaces is that we cannot take a one-size-fits-all approach. We cannot necessarily expect the learnings from the Indonesian market example to apply to the very diverse marketplaces in the Middle East. Some of the early recommendations of the federal government in response to the Farmer review have shown some of that diversity, and that is certainly very pleasing. The very early stages of negotiations with these markets are now taking place to determine the requirements of exporters from Western Australia to ensure supply chain compliance right the way through to the slaughtering process. Some huge challenges sit out there. It is important to acknowledge that it is not good enough to simply allow the industry-to-industry discussion to happen. It is really, really important that government engages at the highest level to ensure that a level of government authority sits above the business-to-business approach. It is important to ensure that those changes are put in place with a full understanding of what is trying to be achieved through a consultative process with those governments, rather than Australia once again putting a compliance rule on another country without fully engaging at the level of diplomacy that should be engaged at for these sorts of market outcomes; that is simply not happening. We have not seen a federal minister go to the Middle East to ensure that the discussions at the government-to-government level are happening to give authority to the good work that people are trying to do at an industry-to-industry level. No learnings have been taken from the Indonesian example. We are now at the early stages of getting a level of supply chain assurance in a very, very different marketplace that requires a different level of approach. From reading the feedback from industry and from our own trade office in the Middle East, this is not happening at the level at which it should happen. I send a very strong signal to the federal government that it needs to engage at an appropriate level to ensure that we do not have a repeat of what happened in Indonesia. If not, it will deliver not only bad outcomes from an animal welfare perspective but also a significant impact on the very long business relationship in the live export trade we have had with the Middle East since the 1970s. The last thing we want now is a lack of support from the federal government. The federal government should become involved at a government-to-government level to ensure that we get good outcomes for animal welfare and good outcomes for the longevity of what is a strong market for our farmers in Western Australia.
The house is well and truly over the issue that we went through with the suspension of live trade to Indonesia. That impacted on not only our WA farmers but also our trade relationship with Indonesia. It is really interesting to find that the trade bump, which was a product of the federal government putting a ban on live exports in place without any notice, has had a significant impact on the confidence of the Middle Eastern market in Western Australian products, not only in the live trade area. We know that contracts are being put in place for the live sheep trade. In terms of the national input, Western Australia exports about 75 per cent of the live sheep market that goes into that area. The grain sector is also very concerned about the sovereign risk that those sorts of decisions pose, even though it is a very different sector. We need to be very, very careful that our reputation stands sound. I have reflected the very strong concern I have about the Indonesian marketplace. The Farmer review has come out; a review was done by Bill Farmer, the immediate past Ambassador to Indonesia, to look at the whole live trade market and the challenges we face in trying to put a quality assured process into the Middle East — Mr M.P. Murray : So you support the federal government on that? Mr D.T. REDMAN : I support a significant proportion of the recommendations that have come out of the Farmer review and I also support achieving good animal welfare outcomes in those market sectors—absolutely. Let us look at how the federal government is taking — Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. If you want to ask a question, seek the call. Mr D.T. REDMAN : One thing that is really clear in these marketplaces is that we cannot take a one-size-fits-all approach. We cannot necessarily expect the learnings from the Indonesian market example to apply to the very diverse marketplaces in the Middle East. Some of the early recommendations of the federal government in response to the Farmer review have shown some of that diversity, and that is certainly very pleasing. The very early stages of negotiations with these markets are now taking place to determine the requirements of exporters from Western Australia to ensure supply chain compliance right the way through to the slaughtering process. Some huge challenges sit out there. It is important to acknowledge that it is not good enough to simply allow the industry-to-industry discussion to happen. It is really, really important that government engages at the highest level to ensure that a level of government authority sits above the business-to-business approach. It is important to ensure that those changes are put in place with a full understanding of what is trying to be achieved through a consultative process with those governments, rather than Australia once again putting a compliance rule on another country without fully engaging at the level of diplomacy that should be engaged at for these sorts of market outcomes; that is simply not happening. We have not seen a federal minister go to the Middle East to ensure that the discussions at the government-to-government level are happening to give authority to the good work that people are trying to do at an industry-to-industry level. No learnings have been taken from the Indonesian example. We are now at the early stages of getting a level of supply chain assurance in a very, very different marketplace that requires a different level of approach. From reading the feedback from industry and from our own trade office in the Middle East, this is not happening at the level at which it should happen. I send a very strong signal to the federal government that it needs to engage at an appropriate level to ensure that we do not have a repeat of what happened in Indonesia. If not, it will deliver not only bad outcomes from an animal welfare perspective but also a significant impact on the very long business relationship in the live export trade we have had with the Middle East since the 1970s. The last thing we want now is a lack of support from the federal government. The federal government should become involved at a government-to-government level to ensure that we get good outcomes for animal welfare and good outcomes for the longevity of what is a strong market for our farmers in Western Australia.
Mr M.P. Murray : So you support the federal government on that? Mr D.T. REDMAN : I support a significant proportion of the recommendations that have come out of the Farmer review and I also support achieving good animal welfare outcomes in those market sectors—absolutely. Let us look at how the federal government is taking — Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. If you want to ask a question, seek the call. Mr D.T. REDMAN : One thing that is really clear in these marketplaces is that we cannot take a one-size-fits-all approach. We cannot necessarily expect the learnings from the Indonesian market example to apply to the very diverse marketplaces in the Middle East. Some of the early recommendations of the federal government in response to the Farmer review have shown some of that diversity, and that is certainly very pleasing. The very early stages of negotiations with these markets are now taking place to determine the requirements of exporters from Western Australia to ensure supply chain compliance right the way through to the slaughtering process. Some huge challenges sit out there. It is important to acknowledge that it is not good enough to simply allow the industry-to-industry discussion to happen. It is really, really important that government engages at the highest level to ensure that a level of government authority sits above the business-to-business approach. It is important to ensure that those changes are put in place with a full understanding of what is trying to be achieved through a consultative process with those governments, rather than Australia once again putting a compliance rule on another country without fully engaging at the level of diplomacy that should be engaged at for these sorts of market outcomes; that is simply not happening. We have not seen a federal minister go to the Middle East to ensure that the discussions at the government-to-government level are happening to give authority to the good work that people are trying to do at an industry-to-industry level. No learnings have been taken from the Indonesian example. We are now at the early stages of getting a level of supply chain assurance in a very, very different marketplace that requires a different level of approach. From reading the feedback from industry and from our own trade office in the Middle East, this is not happening at the level at which it should happen. I send a very strong signal to the federal government that it needs to engage at an appropriate level to ensure that we do not have a repeat of what happened in Indonesia. If not, it will deliver not only bad outcomes from an animal welfare perspective but also a significant impact on the very long business relationship in the live export trade we have had with the Middle East since the 1970s. The last thing we want now is a lack of support from the federal government. The federal government should become involved at a government-to-government level to ensure that we get good outcomes for animal welfare and good outcomes for the longevity of what is a strong market for our farmers in Western Australia.
Mr D.T. REDMAN : I support a significant proportion of the recommendations that have come out of the Farmer review and I also support achieving good animal welfare outcomes in those market sectors—absolutely. Let us look at how the federal government is taking — Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. If you want to ask a question, seek the call. Mr D.T. REDMAN : One thing that is really clear in these marketplaces is that we cannot take a one-size-fits-all approach. We cannot necessarily expect the learnings from the Indonesian market example to apply to the very diverse marketplaces in the Middle East. Some of the early recommendations of the federal government in response to the Farmer review have shown some of that diversity, and that is certainly very pleasing. The very early stages of negotiations with these markets are now taking place to determine the requirements of exporters from Western Australia to ensure supply chain compliance right the way through to the slaughtering process. Some huge challenges sit out there. It is important to acknowledge that it is not good enough to simply allow the industry-to-industry discussion to happen. It is really, really important that government engages at the highest level to ensure that a level of government authority sits above the business-to-business approach. It is important to ensure that those changes are put in place with a full understanding of what is trying to be achieved through a consultative process with those governments, rather than Australia once again putting a compliance rule on another country without fully engaging at the level of diplomacy that should be engaged at for these sorts of market outcomes; that is simply not happening. We have not seen a federal minister go to the Middle East to ensure that the discussions at the government-to-government level are happening to give authority to the good work that people are trying to do at an industry-to-industry level. No learnings have been taken from the Indonesian example. We are now at the early stages of getting a level of supply chain assurance in a very, very different marketplace that requires a different level of approach. From reading the feedback from industry and from our own trade office in the Middle East, this is not happening at the level at which it should happen. I send a very strong signal to the federal government that it needs to engage at an appropriate level to ensure that we do not have a repeat of what happened in Indonesia. If not, it will deliver not only bad outcomes from an animal welfare perspective but also a significant impact on the very long business relationship in the live export trade we have had with the Middle East since the 1970s. The last thing we want now is a lack of support from the federal government. The federal government should become involved at a government-to-government level to ensure that we get good outcomes for animal welfare and good outcomes for the longevity of what is a strong market for our farmers in Western Australia.
Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. If you want to ask a question, seek the call. Mr D.T. REDMAN : One thing that is really clear in these marketplaces is that we cannot take a one-size-fits-all approach. We cannot necessarily expect the learnings from the Indonesian market example to apply to the very diverse marketplaces in the Middle East. Some of the early recommendations of the federal government in response to the Farmer review have shown some of that diversity, and that is certainly very pleasing. The very early stages of negotiations with these markets are now taking place to determine the requirements of exporters from Western Australia to ensure supply chain compliance right the way through to the slaughtering process. Some huge challenges sit out there. It is important to acknowledge that it is not good enough to simply allow the industry-to-industry discussion to happen. It is really, really important that government engages at the highest level to ensure that a level of government authority sits above the business-to-business approach. It is important to ensure that those changes are put in place with a full understanding of what is trying to be achieved through a consultative process with those governments, rather than Australia once again putting a compliance rule on another country without fully engaging at the level of diplomacy that should be engaged at for these sorts of market outcomes; that is simply not happening. We have not seen a federal minister go to the Middle East to ensure that the discussions at the government-to-government level are happening to give authority to the good work that people are trying to do at an industry-to-industry level. No learnings have been taken from the Indonesian example. We are now at the early stages of getting a level of supply chain assurance in a very, very different marketplace that requires a different level of approach. From reading the feedback from industry and from our own trade office in the Middle East, this is not happening at the level at which it should happen. I send a very strong signal to the federal government that it needs to engage at an appropriate level to ensure that we do not have a repeat of what happened in Indonesia. If not, it will deliver not only bad outcomes from an animal welfare perspective but also a significant impact on the very long business relationship in the live export trade we have had with the Middle East since the 1970s. The last thing we want now is a lack of support from the federal government. The federal government should become involved at a government-to-government level to ensure that we get good outcomes for animal welfare and good outcomes for the longevity of what is a strong market for our farmers in Western Australia.
The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. If you want to ask a question, seek the call. Mr D.T. REDMAN : One thing that is really clear in these marketplaces is that we cannot take a one-size-fits-all approach. We cannot necessarily expect the learnings from the Indonesian market example to apply to the very diverse marketplaces in the Middle East. Some of the early recommendations of the federal government in response to the Farmer review have shown some of that diversity, and that is certainly very pleasing. The very early stages of negotiations with these markets are now taking place to determine the requirements of exporters from Western Australia to ensure supply chain compliance right the way through to the slaughtering process. Some huge challenges sit out there. It is important to acknowledge that it is not good enough to simply allow the industry-to-industry discussion to happen. It is really, really important that government engages at the highest level to ensure that a level of government authority sits above the business-to-business approach. It is important to ensure that those changes are put in place with a full understanding of what is trying to be achieved through a consultative process with those governments, rather than Australia once again putting a compliance rule on another country without fully engaging at the level of diplomacy that should be engaged at for these sorts of market outcomes; that is simply not happening. We have not seen a federal minister go to the Middle East to ensure that the discussions at the government-to-government level are happening to give authority to the good work that people are trying to do at an industry-to-industry level. No learnings have been taken from the Indonesian example. We are now at the early stages of getting a level of supply chain assurance in a very, very different marketplace that requires a different level of approach. From reading the feedback from industry and from our own trade office in the Middle East, this is not happening at the level at which it should happen. I send a very strong signal to the federal government that it needs to engage at an appropriate level to ensure that we do not have a repeat of what happened in Indonesia. If not, it will deliver not only bad outcomes from an animal welfare perspective but also a significant impact on the very long business relationship in the live export trade we have had with the Middle East since the 1970s. The last thing we want now is a lack of support from the federal government. The federal government should become involved at a government-to-government level to ensure that we get good outcomes for animal welfare and good outcomes for the longevity of what is a strong market for our farmers in Western Australia.
Mr D.T. REDMAN : One thing that is really clear in these marketplaces is that we cannot take a one-size-fits-all approach. We cannot necessarily expect the learnings from the Indonesian market example to apply to the very diverse marketplaces in the Middle East. Some of the early recommendations of the federal government in response to the Farmer review have shown some of that diversity, and that is certainly very pleasing. The very early stages of negotiations with these markets are now taking place to determine the requirements of exporters from Western Australia to ensure supply chain compliance right the way through to the slaughtering process. Some huge challenges sit out there. It is important to acknowledge that it is not good enough to simply allow the industry-to-industry discussion to happen. It is really, really important that government engages at the highest level to ensure that a level of government authority sits above the business-to-business approach. It is important to ensure that those changes are put in place with a full understanding of what is trying to be achieved through a consultative process with those governments, rather than Australia once again putting a compliance rule on another country without fully engaging at the level of diplomacy that should be engaged at for these sorts of market outcomes; that is simply not happening. We have not seen a federal minister go to the Middle East to ensure that the discussions at the government-to-government level are happening to give authority to the good work that people are trying to do at an industry-to-industry level. No learnings have been taken from the Indonesian example. We are now at the early stages of getting a level of supply chain assurance in a very, very different marketplace that requires a different level of approach. From reading the feedback from industry and from our own trade office in the Middle East, this is not happening at the level at which it should happen. I send a very strong signal to the federal government that it needs to engage at an appropriate level to ensure that we do not have a repeat of what happened in Indonesia. If not, it will deliver not only bad outcomes from an animal welfare perspective but also a significant impact on the very long business relationship in the live export trade we have had with the Middle East since the 1970s. The last thing we want now is a lack of support from the federal government. The federal government should become involved at a government-to-government level to ensure that we get good outcomes for animal welfare and good outcomes for the longevity of what is a strong market for our farmers in Western Australia.
We have not seen a federal minister go to the Middle East to ensure that the discussions at the government-to-government level are happening to give authority to the good work that people are trying to do at an industry-to-industry level. No learnings have been taken from the Indonesian example. We are now at the early stages of getting a level of supply chain assurance in a very, very different marketplace that requires a different level of approach. From reading the feedback from industry and from our own trade office in the Middle East, this is not happening at the level at which it should happen. I send a very strong signal to the federal government that it needs to engage at an appropriate level to ensure that we do not have a repeat of what happened in Indonesia. If not, it will deliver not only bad outcomes from an animal welfare perspective but also a significant impact on the very long business relationship in the live export trade we have had with the Middle East since the 1970s. The last thing we want now is a lack of support from the federal government. The federal government should become involved at a government-to-government level to ensure that we get good outcomes for animal welfare and good outcomes for the longevity of what is a strong market for our farmers in Western Australia.
The last thing we want now is a lack of support from the federal government. The federal government should become involved at a government-to-government level to ensure that we get good outcomes for animal welfare and good outcomes for the longevity of what is a strong market for our farmers in Western Australia.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : For those who wish to interrupt, including the member for Joondalup, the member for Cockburn and the Minister for Agriculture and Food, I am going to formally call you all to order for the first time today. I will give the call back to the person asking the question, the member for Geraldton. Mr I.C. BLAYNEY : Is the minister concerned that the federal government is now repeating the same mistakes with live sheep exports to the Middle East? Mr E.S. Ripper : Just stick to a minute and a half! Mr D.T. REDMAN replied: Just like the questions from the opposition! I thank the member for Geraldton for his question. He takes a lot of interest in this matter and on a number of occasions he has taken the time to speak with me about a range of issues presented to him by his constituency. The house is well and truly over the issue that we went through with the suspension of live trade to Indonesia. That impacted on not only our WA farmers but also our trade relationship with Indonesia. It is really interesting to find that the trade bump, which was a product of the federal government putting a ban on live exports in place without any notice, has had a significant impact on the confidence of the Middle Eastern market in Western Australian products, not only in the live trade area. We know that contracts are being put in place for the live sheep trade. In terms of the national input, Western Australia exports about 75 per cent of the live sheep market that goes into that area. The grain sector is also very concerned about the sovereign risk that those sorts of decisions pose, even though it is a very different sector. We need to be very, very careful that our reputation stands sound. I have reflected the very strong concern I have about the Indonesian marketplace. The Farmer review has come out; a review was done by Bill Farmer, the immediate past Ambassador to Indonesia, to look at the whole live trade market and the challenges we face in trying to put a quality assured process into the Middle East — Mr M.P. Murray : So you support the federal government on that? Mr D.T. REDMAN : I support a significant proportion of the recommendations that have come out of the Farmer review and I also support achieving good animal welfare outcomes in those market sectors—absolutely. Let us look at how the federal government is taking — Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. If you want to ask a question, seek the call. Mr D.T. REDMAN : One thing that is really clear in these marketplaces is that we cannot take a one-size-fits-all approach. We cannot necessarily expect the learnings from the Indonesian market example to apply to the very diverse marketplaces in the Middle East. Some of the early recommendations of the federal government in response to the Farmer review have shown some of that diversity, and that is certainly very pleasing. The very early stages of negotiations with these markets are now taking place to determine the requirements of exporters from Western Australia to ensure supply chain compliance right the way through to the slaughtering process. Some huge challenges sit out there. It is important to acknowledge that it is not good enough to simply allow the industry-to-industry discussion to happen. It is really, really important that government engages at the highest level to ensure that a level of government authority sits above the business-to-business approach. It is important to ensure that those changes are put in place with a full understanding of what is trying to be achieved through a consultative process with those governments, rather than Australia once again putting a compliance rule on another country without fully engaging at the level of diplomacy that should be engaged at for these sorts of market outcomes; that is simply not happening. We have not seen a federal minister go to the Middle East to ensure that the discussions at the government-to-government level are happening to give authority to the good work that people are trying to do at an industry-to-industry level. No learnings have been taken from the Indonesian example. We are now at the early stages of getting a level of supply chain assurance in a very, very different marketplace that requires a different level of approach. From reading the feedback from industry and from our own trade office in the Middle East, this is not happening at the level at which it should happen. I send a very strong signal to the federal government that it needs to engage at an appropriate level to ensure that we do not have a repeat of what happened in Indonesia. If not, it will deliver not only bad outcomes from an animal welfare perspective but also a significant impact on the very long business relationship in the live export trade we have had with the Middle East since the 1970s. The last thing we want now is a lack of support from the federal government. The federal government should become involved at a government-to-government level to ensure that we get good outcomes for animal welfare and good outcomes for the longevity of what is a strong market for our farmers in Western Australia.
The SPEAKER : For those who wish to interrupt, including the member for Joondalup, the member for Cockburn and the Minister for Agriculture and Food, I am going to formally call you all to order for the first time today. I will give the call back to the person asking the question, the member for Geraldton. Mr I.C. BLAYNEY : Is the minister concerned that the federal government is now repeating the same mistakes with live sheep exports to the Middle East? Mr E.S. Ripper : Just stick to a minute and a half! Mr D.T. REDMAN replied: Just like the questions from the opposition! I thank the member for Geraldton for his question. He takes a lot of interest in this matter and on a number of occasions he has taken the time to speak with me about a range of issues presented to him by his constituency. The house is well and truly over the issue that we went through with the suspension of live trade to Indonesia. That impacted on not only our WA farmers but also our trade relationship with Indonesia. It is really interesting to find that the trade bump, which was a product of the federal government putting a ban on live exports in place without any notice, has had a significant impact on the confidence of the Middle Eastern market in Western Australian products, not only in the live trade area. We know that contracts are being put in place for the live sheep trade. In terms of the national input, Western Australia exports about 75 per cent of the live sheep market that goes into that area. The grain sector is also very concerned about the sovereign risk that those sorts of decisions pose, even though it is a very different sector. We need to be very, very careful that our reputation stands sound. I have reflected the very strong concern I have about the Indonesian marketplace. The Farmer review has come out; a review was done by Bill Farmer, the immediate past Ambassador to Indonesia, to look at the whole live trade market and the challenges we face in trying to put a quality assured process into the Middle East — Mr M.P. Murray : So you support the federal government on that? Mr D.T. REDMAN : I support a significant proportion of the recommendations that have come out of the Farmer review and I also support achieving good animal welfare outcomes in those market sectors—absolutely. Let us look at how the federal government is taking — Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. If you want to ask a question, seek the call. Mr D.T. REDMAN : One thing that is really clear in these marketplaces is that we cannot take a one-size-fits-all approach. We cannot necessarily expect the learnings from the Indonesian market example to apply to the very diverse marketplaces in the Middle East. Some of the early recommendations of the federal government in response to the Farmer review have shown some of that diversity, and that is certainly very pleasing. The very early stages of negotiations with these markets are now taking place to determine the requirements of exporters from Western Australia to ensure supply chain compliance right the way through to the slaughtering process. Some huge challenges sit out there. It is important to acknowledge that it is not good enough to simply allow the industry-to-industry discussion to happen. It is really, really important that government engages at the highest level to ensure that a level of government authority sits above the business-to-business approach. It is important to ensure that those changes are put in place with a full understanding of what is trying to be achieved through a consultative process with those governments, rather than Australia once again putting a compliance rule on another country without fully engaging at the level of diplomacy that should be engaged at for these sorts of market outcomes; that is simply not happening. We have not seen a federal minister go to the Middle East to ensure that the discussions at the government-to-government level are happening to give authority to the good work that people are trying to do at an industry-to-industry level. No learnings have been taken from the Indonesian example. We are now at the early stages of getting a level of supply chain assurance in a very, very different marketplace that requires a different level of approach. From reading the feedback from industry and from our own trade office in the Middle East, this is not happening at the level at which it should happen. I send a very strong signal to the federal government that it needs to engage at an appropriate level to ensure that we do not have a repeat of what happened in Indonesia. If not, it will deliver not only bad outcomes from an animal welfare perspective but also a significant impact on the very long business relationship in the live export trade we have had with the Middle East since the 1970s. The last thing we want now is a lack of support from the federal government. The federal government should become involved at a government-to-government level to ensure that we get good outcomes for animal welfare and good outcomes for the longevity of what is a strong market for our farmers in Western Australia.
Mr I.C. BLAYNEY : Is the minister concerned that the federal government is now repeating the same mistakes with live sheep exports to the Middle East? Mr E.S. Ripper : Just stick to a minute and a half! Mr D.T. REDMAN replied: Just like the questions from the opposition! I thank the member for Geraldton for his question. He takes a lot of interest in this matter and on a number of occasions he has taken the time to speak with me about a range of issues presented to him by his constituency. The house is well and truly over the issue that we went through with the suspension of live trade to Indonesia. That impacted on not only our WA farmers but also our trade relationship with Indonesia. It is really interesting to find that the trade bump, which was a product of the federal government putting a ban on live exports in place without any notice, has had a significant impact on the confidence of the Middle Eastern market in Western Australian products, not only in the live trade area. We know that contracts are being put in place for the live sheep trade. In terms of the national input, Western Australia exports about 75 per cent of the live sheep market that goes into that area. The grain sector is also very concerned about the sovereign risk that those sorts of decisions pose, even though it is a very different sector. We need to be very, very careful that our reputation stands sound. I have reflected the very strong concern I have about the Indonesian marketplace. The Farmer review has come out; a review was done by Bill Farmer, the immediate past Ambassador to Indonesia, to look at the whole live trade market and the challenges we face in trying to put a quality assured process into the Middle East — Mr M.P. Murray : So you support the federal government on that? Mr D.T. REDMAN : I support a significant proportion of the recommendations that have come out of the Farmer review and I also support achieving good animal welfare outcomes in those market sectors—absolutely. Let us look at how the federal government is taking — Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. If you want to ask a question, seek the call. Mr D.T. REDMAN : One thing that is really clear in these marketplaces is that we cannot take a one-size-fits-all approach. We cannot necessarily expect the learnings from the Indonesian market example to apply to the very diverse marketplaces in the Middle East. Some of the early recommendations of the federal government in response to the Farmer review have shown some of that diversity, and that is certainly very pleasing. The very early stages of negotiations with these markets are now taking place to determine the requirements of exporters from Western Australia to ensure supply chain compliance right the way through to the slaughtering process. Some huge challenges sit out there. It is important to acknowledge that it is not good enough to simply allow the industry-to-industry discussion to happen. It is really, really important that government engages at the highest level to ensure that a level of government authority sits above the business-to-business approach. It is important to ensure that those changes are put in place with a full understanding of what is trying to be achieved through a consultative process with those governments, rather than Australia once again putting a compliance rule on another country without fully engaging at the level of diplomacy that should be engaged at for these sorts of market outcomes; that is simply not happening. We have not seen a federal minister go to the Middle East to ensure that the discussions at the government-to-government level are happening to give authority to the good work that people are trying to do at an industry-to-industry level. No learnings have been taken from the Indonesian example. We are now at the early stages of getting a level of supply chain assurance in a very, very different marketplace that requires a different level of approach. From reading the feedback from industry and from our own trade office in the Middle East, this is not happening at the level at which it should happen. I send a very strong signal to the federal government that it needs to engage at an appropriate level to ensure that we do not have a repeat of what happened in Indonesia. If not, it will deliver not only bad outcomes from an animal welfare perspective but also a significant impact on the very long business relationship in the live export trade we have had with the Middle East since the 1970s. The last thing we want now is a lack of support from the federal government. The federal government should become involved at a government-to-government level to ensure that we get good outcomes for animal welfare and good outcomes for the longevity of what is a strong market for our farmers in Western Australia.
Mr E.S. Ripper : Just stick to a minute and a half! Mr D.T. REDMAN replied: Just like the questions from the opposition! I thank the member for Geraldton for his question. He takes a lot of interest in this matter and on a number of occasions he has taken the time to speak with me about a range of issues presented to him by his constituency. The house is well and truly over the issue that we went through with the suspension of live trade to Indonesia. That impacted on not only our WA farmers but also our trade relationship with Indonesia. It is really interesting to find that the trade bump, which was a product of the federal government putting a ban on live exports in place without any notice, has had a significant impact on the confidence of the Middle Eastern market in Western Australian products, not only in the live trade area. We know that contracts are being put in place for the live sheep trade. In terms of the national input, Western Australia exports about 75 per cent of the live sheep market that goes into that area. The grain sector is also very concerned about the sovereign risk that those sorts of decisions pose, even though it is a very different sector. We need to be very, very careful that our reputation stands sound. I have reflected the very strong concern I have about the Indonesian marketplace. The Farmer review has come out; a review was done by Bill Farmer, the immediate past Ambassador to Indonesia, to look at the whole live trade market and the challenges we face in trying to put a quality assured process into the Middle East — Mr M.P. Murray : So you support the federal government on that? Mr D.T. REDMAN : I support a significant proportion of the recommendations that have come out of the Farmer review and I also support achieving good animal welfare outcomes in those market sectors—absolutely. Let us look at how the federal government is taking — Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. If you want to ask a question, seek the call. Mr D.T. REDMAN : One thing that is really clear in these marketplaces is that we cannot take a one-size-fits-all approach. We cannot necessarily expect the learnings from the Indonesian market example to apply to the very diverse marketplaces in the Middle East. Some of the early recommendations of the federal government in response to the Farmer review have shown some of that diversity, and that is certainly very pleasing. The very early stages of negotiations with these markets are now taking place to determine the requirements of exporters from Western Australia to ensure supply chain compliance right the way through to the slaughtering process. Some huge challenges sit out there. It is important to acknowledge that it is not good enough to simply allow the industry-to-industry discussion to happen. It is really, really important that government engages at the highest level to ensure that a level of government authority sits above the business-to-business approach. It is important to ensure that those changes are put in place with a full understanding of what is trying to be achieved through a consultative process with those governments, rather than Australia once again putting a compliance rule on another country without fully engaging at the level of diplomacy that should be engaged at for these sorts of market outcomes; that is simply not happening. We have not seen a federal minister go to the Middle East to ensure that the discussions at the government-to-government level are happening to give authority to the good work that people are trying to do at an industry-to-industry level. No learnings have been taken from the Indonesian example. We are now at the early stages of getting a level of supply chain assurance in a very, very different marketplace that requires a different level of approach. From reading the feedback from industry and from our own trade office in the Middle East, this is not happening at the level at which it should happen. I send a very strong signal to the federal government that it needs to engage at an appropriate level to ensure that we do not have a repeat of what happened in Indonesia. If not, it will deliver not only bad outcomes from an animal welfare perspective but also a significant impact on the very long business relationship in the live export trade we have had with the Middle East since the 1970s. The last thing we want now is a lack of support from the federal government. The federal government should become involved at a government-to-government level to ensure that we get good outcomes for animal welfare and good outcomes for the longevity of what is a strong market for our farmers in Western Australia.
Mr D.T. REDMAN replied: Just like the questions from the opposition! I thank the member for Geraldton for his question. He takes a lot of interest in this matter and on a number of occasions he has taken the time to speak with me about a range of issues presented to him by his constituency. The house is well and truly over the issue that we went through with the suspension of live trade to Indonesia. That impacted on not only our WA farmers but also our trade relationship with Indonesia. It is really interesting to find that the trade bump, which was a product of the federal government putting a ban on live exports in place without any notice, has had a significant impact on the confidence of the Middle Eastern market in Western Australian products, not only in the live trade area. We know that contracts are being put in place for the live sheep trade. In terms of the national input, Western Australia exports about 75 per cent of the live sheep market that goes into that area. The grain sector is also very concerned about the sovereign risk that those sorts of decisions pose, even though it is a very different sector. We need to be very, very careful that our reputation stands sound. I have reflected the very strong concern I have about the Indonesian marketplace. The Farmer review has come out; a review was done by Bill Farmer, the immediate past Ambassador to Indonesia, to look at the whole live trade market and the challenges we face in trying to put a quality assured process into the Middle East — Mr M.P. Murray : So you support the federal government on that? Mr D.T. REDMAN : I support a significant proportion of the recommendations that have come out of the Farmer review and I also support achieving good animal welfare outcomes in those market sectors—absolutely. Let us look at how the federal government is taking — Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. If you want to ask a question, seek the call. Mr D.T. REDMAN : One thing that is really clear in these marketplaces is that we cannot take a one-size-fits-all approach. We cannot necessarily expect the learnings from the Indonesian market example to apply to the very diverse marketplaces in the Middle East. Some of the early recommendations of the federal government in response to the Farmer review have shown some of that diversity, and that is certainly very pleasing. The very early stages of negotiations with these markets are now taking place to determine the requirements of exporters from Western Australia to ensure supply chain compliance right the way through to the slaughtering process. Some huge challenges sit out there. It is important to acknowledge that it is not good enough to simply allow the industry-to-industry discussion to happen. It is really, really important that government engages at the highest level to ensure that a level of government authority sits above the business-to-business approach. It is important to ensure that those changes are put in place with a full understanding of what is trying to be achieved through a consultative process with those governments, rather than Australia once again putting a compliance rule on another country without fully engaging at the level of diplomacy that should be engaged at for these sorts of market outcomes; that is simply not happening. We have not seen a federal minister go to the Middle East to ensure that the discussions at the government-to-government level are happening to give authority to the good work that people are trying to do at an industry-to-industry level. No learnings have been taken from the Indonesian example. We are now at the early stages of getting a level of supply chain assurance in a very, very different marketplace that requires a different level of approach. From reading the feedback from industry and from our own trade office in the Middle East, this is not happening at the level at which it should happen. I send a very strong signal to the federal government that it needs to engage at an appropriate level to ensure that we do not have a repeat of what happened in Indonesia. If not, it will deliver not only bad outcomes from an animal welfare perspective but also a significant impact on the very long business relationship in the live export trade we have had with the Middle East since the 1970s. The last thing we want now is a lack of support from the federal government. The federal government should become involved at a government-to-government level to ensure that we get good outcomes for animal welfare and good outcomes for the longevity of what is a strong market for our farmers in Western Australia.
Just like the questions from the opposition! I thank the member for Geraldton for his question. He takes a lot of interest in this matter and on a number of occasions he has taken the time to speak with me about a range of issues presented to him by his constituency. The house is well and truly over the issue that we went through with the suspension of live trade to Indonesia. That impacted on not only our WA farmers but also our trade relationship with Indonesia. It is really interesting to find that the trade bump, which was a product of the federal government putting a ban on live exports in place without any notice, has had a significant impact on the confidence of the Middle Eastern market in Western Australian products, not only in the live trade area. We know that contracts are being put in place for the live sheep trade. In terms of the national input, Western Australia exports about 75 per cent of the live sheep market that goes into that area. The grain sector is also very concerned about the sovereign risk that those sorts of decisions pose, even though it is a very different sector. We need to be very, very careful that our reputation stands sound. I have reflected the very strong concern I have about the Indonesian marketplace. The Farmer review has come out; a review was done by Bill Farmer, the immediate past Ambassador to Indonesia, to look at the whole live trade market and the challenges we face in trying to put a quality assured process into the Middle East — Mr M.P. Murray : So you support the federal government on that? Mr D.T. REDMAN : I support a significant proportion of the recommendations that have come out of the Farmer review and I also support achieving good animal welfare outcomes in those market sectors—absolutely. Let us look at how the federal government is taking — Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. If you want to ask a question, seek the call. Mr D.T. REDMAN : One thing that is really clear in these marketplaces is that we cannot take a one-size-fits-all approach. We cannot necessarily expect the learnings from the Indonesian market example to apply to the very diverse marketplaces in the Middle East. Some of the early recommendations of the federal government in response to the Farmer review have shown some of that diversity, and that is certainly very pleasing. The very early stages of negotiations with these markets are now taking place to determine the requirements of exporters from Western Australia to ensure supply chain compliance right the way through to the slaughtering process. Some huge challenges sit out there. It is important to acknowledge that it is not good enough to simply allow the industry-to-industry discussion to happen. It is really, really important that government engages at the highest level to ensure that a level of government authority sits above the business-to-business approach. It is important to ensure that those changes are put in place with a full understanding of what is trying to be achieved through a consultative process with those governments, rather than Australia once again putting a compliance rule on another country without fully engaging at the level of diplomacy that should be engaged at for these sorts of market outcomes; that is simply not happening. We have not seen a federal minister go to the Middle East to ensure that the discussions at the government-to-government level are happening to give authority to the good work that people are trying to do at an industry-to-industry level. No learnings have been taken from the Indonesian example. We are now at the early stages of getting a level of supply chain assurance in a very, very different marketplace that requires a different level of approach. From reading the feedback from industry and from our own trade office in the Middle East, this is not happening at the level at which it should happen. I send a very strong signal to the federal government that it needs to engage at an appropriate level to ensure that we do not have a repeat of what happened in Indonesia. If not, it will deliver not only bad outcomes from an animal welfare perspective but also a significant impact on the very long business relationship in the live export trade we have had with the Middle East since the 1970s. The last thing we want now is a lack of support from the federal government. The federal government should become involved at a government-to-government level to ensure that we get good outcomes for animal welfare and good outcomes for the longevity of what is a strong market for our farmers in Western Australia.
I thank the member for Geraldton for his question. He takes a lot of interest in this matter and on a number of occasions he has taken the time to speak with me about a range of issues presented to him by his constituency. The house is well and truly over the issue that we went through with the suspension of live trade to Indonesia. That impacted on not only our WA farmers but also our trade relationship with Indonesia. It is really interesting to find that the trade bump, which was a product of the federal government putting a ban on live exports in place without any notice, has had a significant impact on the confidence of the Middle Eastern market in Western Australian products, not only in the live trade area. We know that contracts are being put in place for the live sheep trade. In terms of the national input, Western Australia exports about 75 per cent of the live sheep market that goes into that area. The grain sector is also very concerned about the sovereign risk that those sorts of decisions pose, even though it is a very different sector. We need to be very, very careful that our reputation stands sound. I have reflected the very strong concern I have about the Indonesian marketplace. The Farmer review has come out; a review was done by Bill Farmer, the immediate past Ambassador to Indonesia, to look at the whole live trade market and the challenges we face in trying to put a quality assured process into the Middle East — Mr M.P. Murray : So you support the federal government on that? Mr D.T. REDMAN : I support a significant proportion of the recommendations that have come out of the Farmer review and I also support achieving good animal welfare outcomes in those market sectors—absolutely. Let us look at how the federal government is taking — Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. If you want to ask a question, seek the call. Mr D.T. REDMAN : One thing that is really clear in these marketplaces is that we cannot take a one-size-fits-all approach. We cannot necessarily expect the learnings from the Indonesian market example to apply to the very diverse marketplaces in the Middle East. Some of the early recommendations of the federal government in response to the Farmer review have shown some of that diversity, and that is certainly very pleasing. The very early stages of negotiations with these markets are now taking place to determine the requirements of exporters from Western Australia to ensure supply chain compliance right the way through to the slaughtering process. Some huge challenges sit out there. It is important to acknowledge that it is not good enough to simply allow the industry-to-industry discussion to happen. It is really, really important that government engages at the highest level to ensure that a level of government authority sits above the business-to-business approach. It is important to ensure that those changes are put in place with a full understanding of what is trying to be achieved through a consultative process with those governments, rather than Australia once again putting a compliance rule on another country without fully engaging at the level of diplomacy that should be engaged at for these sorts of market outcomes; that is simply not happening. We have not seen a federal minister go to the Middle East to ensure that the discussions at the government-to-government level are happening to give authority to the good work that people are trying to do at an industry-to-industry level. No learnings have been taken from the Indonesian example. We are now at the early stages of getting a level of supply chain assurance in a very, very different marketplace that requires a different level of approach. From reading the feedback from industry and from our own trade office in the Middle East, this is not happening at the level at which it should happen. I send a very strong signal to the federal government that it needs to engage at an appropriate level to ensure that we do not have a repeat of what happened in Indonesia. If not, it will deliver not only bad outcomes from an animal welfare perspective but also a significant impact on the very long business relationship in the live export trade we have had with the Middle East since the 1970s. The last thing we want now is a lack of support from the federal government. The federal government should become involved at a government-to-government level to ensure that we get good outcomes for animal welfare and good outcomes for the longevity of what is a strong market for our farmers in Western Australia.
The house is well and truly over the issue that we went through with the suspension of live trade to Indonesia. That impacted on not only our WA farmers but also our trade relationship with Indonesia. It is really interesting to find that the trade bump, which was a product of the federal government putting a ban on live exports in place without any notice, has had a significant impact on the confidence of the Middle Eastern market in Western Australian products, not only in the live trade area. We know that contracts are being put in place for the live sheep trade. In terms of the national input, Western Australia exports about 75 per cent of the live sheep market that goes into that area. The grain sector is also very concerned about the sovereign risk that those sorts of decisions pose, even though it is a very different sector. We need to be very, very careful that our reputation stands sound. I have reflected the very strong concern I have about the Indonesian marketplace. The Farmer review has come out; a review was done by Bill Farmer, the immediate past Ambassador to Indonesia, to look at the whole live trade market and the challenges we face in trying to put a quality assured process into the Middle East — Mr M.P. Murray : So you support the federal government on that? Mr D.T. REDMAN : I support a significant proportion of the recommendations that have come out of the Farmer review and I also support achieving good animal welfare outcomes in those market sectors—absolutely. Let us look at how the federal government is taking — Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. If you want to ask a question, seek the call. Mr D.T. REDMAN : One thing that is really clear in these marketplaces is that we cannot take a one-size-fits-all approach. We cannot necessarily expect the learnings from the Indonesian market example to apply to the very diverse marketplaces in the Middle East. Some of the early recommendations of the federal government in response to the Farmer review have shown some of that diversity, and that is certainly very pleasing. The very early stages of negotiations with these markets are now taking place to determine the requirements of exporters from Western Australia to ensure supply chain compliance right the way through to the slaughtering process. Some huge challenges sit out there. It is important to acknowledge that it is not good enough to simply allow the industry-to-industry discussion to happen. It is really, really important that government engages at the highest level to ensure that a level of government authority sits above the business-to-business approach. It is important to ensure that those changes are put in place with a full understanding of what is trying to be achieved through a consultative process with those governments, rather than Australia once again putting a compliance rule on another country without fully engaging at the level of diplomacy that should be engaged at for these sorts of market outcomes; that is simply not happening. We have not seen a federal minister go to the Middle East to ensure that the discussions at the government-to-government level are happening to give authority to the good work that people are trying to do at an industry-to-industry level. No learnings have been taken from the Indonesian example. We are now at the early stages of getting a level of supply chain assurance in a very, very different marketplace that requires a different level of approach. From reading the feedback from industry and from our own trade office in the Middle East, this is not happening at the level at which it should happen. I send a very strong signal to the federal government that it needs to engage at an appropriate level to ensure that we do not have a repeat of what happened in Indonesia. If not, it will deliver not only bad outcomes from an animal welfare perspective but also a significant impact on the very long business relationship in the live export trade we have had with the Middle East since the 1970s. The last thing we want now is a lack of support from the federal government. The federal government should become involved at a government-to-government level to ensure that we get good outcomes for animal welfare and good outcomes for the longevity of what is a strong market for our farmers in Western Australia.
Mr M.P. Murray : So you support the federal government on that? Mr D.T. REDMAN : I support a significant proportion of the recommendations that have come out of the Farmer review and I also support achieving good animal welfare outcomes in those market sectors—absolutely. Let us look at how the federal government is taking — Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. If you want to ask a question, seek the call. Mr D.T. REDMAN : One thing that is really clear in these marketplaces is that we cannot take a one-size-fits-all approach. We cannot necessarily expect the learnings from the Indonesian market example to apply to the very diverse marketplaces in the Middle East. Some of the early recommendations of the federal government in response to the Farmer review have shown some of that diversity, and that is certainly very pleasing. The very early stages of negotiations with these markets are now taking place to determine the requirements of exporters from Western Australia to ensure supply chain compliance right the way through to the slaughtering process. Some huge challenges sit out there. It is important to acknowledge that it is not good enough to simply allow the industry-to-industry discussion to happen. It is really, really important that government engages at the highest level to ensure that a level of government authority sits above the business-to-business approach. It is important to ensure that those changes are put in place with a full understanding of what is trying to be achieved through a consultative process with those governments, rather than Australia once again putting a compliance rule on another country without fully engaging at the level of diplomacy that should be engaged at for these sorts of market outcomes; that is simply not happening. We have not seen a federal minister go to the Middle East to ensure that the discussions at the government-to-government level are happening to give authority to the good work that people are trying to do at an industry-to-industry level. No learnings have been taken from the Indonesian example. We are now at the early stages of getting a level of supply chain assurance in a very, very different marketplace that requires a different level of approach. From reading the feedback from industry and from our own trade office in the Middle East, this is not happening at the level at which it should happen. I send a very strong signal to the federal government that it needs to engage at an appropriate level to ensure that we do not have a repeat of what happened in Indonesia. If not, it will deliver not only bad outcomes from an animal welfare perspective but also a significant impact on the very long business relationship in the live export trade we have had with the Middle East since the 1970s. The last thing we want now is a lack of support from the federal government. The federal government should become involved at a government-to-government level to ensure that we get good outcomes for animal welfare and good outcomes for the longevity of what is a strong market for our farmers in Western Australia.
Mr D.T. REDMAN : I support a significant proportion of the recommendations that have come out of the Farmer review and I also support achieving good animal welfare outcomes in those market sectors—absolutely. Let us look at how the federal government is taking — Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. If you want to ask a question, seek the call. Mr D.T. REDMAN : One thing that is really clear in these marketplaces is that we cannot take a one-size-fits-all approach. We cannot necessarily expect the learnings from the Indonesian market example to apply to the very diverse marketplaces in the Middle East. Some of the early recommendations of the federal government in response to the Farmer review have shown some of that diversity, and that is certainly very pleasing. The very early stages of negotiations with these markets are now taking place to determine the requirements of exporters from Western Australia to ensure supply chain compliance right the way through to the slaughtering process. Some huge challenges sit out there. It is important to acknowledge that it is not good enough to simply allow the industry-to-industry discussion to happen. It is really, really important that government engages at the highest level to ensure that a level of government authority sits above the business-to-business approach. It is important to ensure that those changes are put in place with a full understanding of what is trying to be achieved through a consultative process with those governments, rather than Australia once again putting a compliance rule on another country without fully engaging at the level of diplomacy that should be engaged at for these sorts of market outcomes; that is simply not happening. We have not seen a federal minister go to the Middle East to ensure that the discussions at the government-to-government level are happening to give authority to the good work that people are trying to do at an industry-to-industry level. No learnings have been taken from the Indonesian example. We are now at the early stages of getting a level of supply chain assurance in a very, very different marketplace that requires a different level of approach. From reading the feedback from industry and from our own trade office in the Middle East, this is not happening at the level at which it should happen. I send a very strong signal to the federal government that it needs to engage at an appropriate level to ensure that we do not have a repeat of what happened in Indonesia. If not, it will deliver not only bad outcomes from an animal welfare perspective but also a significant impact on the very long business relationship in the live export trade we have had with the Middle East since the 1970s. The last thing we want now is a lack of support from the federal government. The federal government should become involved at a government-to-government level to ensure that we get good outcomes for animal welfare and good outcomes for the longevity of what is a strong market for our farmers in Western Australia.
Mr M.P. Murray interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. If you want to ask a question, seek the call. Mr D.T. REDMAN : One thing that is really clear in these marketplaces is that we cannot take a one-size-fits-all approach. We cannot necessarily expect the learnings from the Indonesian market example to apply to the very diverse marketplaces in the Middle East. Some of the early recommendations of the federal government in response to the Farmer review have shown some of that diversity, and that is certainly very pleasing. The very early stages of negotiations with these markets are now taking place to determine the requirements of exporters from Western Australia to ensure supply chain compliance right the way through to the slaughtering process. Some huge challenges sit out there. It is important to acknowledge that it is not good enough to simply allow the industry-to-industry discussion to happen. It is really, really important that government engages at the highest level to ensure that a level of government authority sits above the business-to-business approach. It is important to ensure that those changes are put in place with a full understanding of what is trying to be achieved through a consultative process with those governments, rather than Australia once again putting a compliance rule on another country without fully engaging at the level of diplomacy that should be engaged at for these sorts of market outcomes; that is simply not happening. We have not seen a federal minister go to the Middle East to ensure that the discussions at the government-to-government level are happening to give authority to the good work that people are trying to do at an industry-to-industry level. No learnings have been taken from the Indonesian example. We are now at the early stages of getting a level of supply chain assurance in a very, very different marketplace that requires a different level of approach. From reading the feedback from industry and from our own trade office in the Middle East, this is not happening at the level at which it should happen. I send a very strong signal to the federal government that it needs to engage at an appropriate level to ensure that we do not have a repeat of what happened in Indonesia. If not, it will deliver not only bad outcomes from an animal welfare perspective but also a significant impact on the very long business relationship in the live export trade we have had with the Middle East since the 1970s. The last thing we want now is a lack of support from the federal government. The federal government should become involved at a government-to-government level to ensure that we get good outcomes for animal welfare and good outcomes for the longevity of what is a strong market for our farmers in Western Australia.
The SPEAKER : Member for Collie–Preston, I formally call you to order for the first time today. If you want to ask a question, seek the call. Mr D.T. REDMAN : One thing that is really clear in these marketplaces is that we cannot take a one-size-fits-all approach. We cannot necessarily expect the learnings from the Indonesian market example to apply to the very diverse marketplaces in the Middle East. Some of the early recommendations of the federal government in response to the Farmer review have shown some of that diversity, and that is certainly very pleasing. The very early stages of negotiations with these markets are now taking place to determine the requirements of exporters from Western Australia to ensure supply chain compliance right the way through to the slaughtering process. Some huge challenges sit out there. It is important to acknowledge that it is not good enough to simply allow the industry-to-industry discussion to happen. It is really, really important that government engages at the highest level to ensure that a level of government authority sits above the business-to-business approach. It is important to ensure that those changes are put in place with a full understanding of what is trying to be achieved through a consultative process with those governments, rather than Australia once again putting a compliance rule on another country without fully engaging at the level of diplomacy that should be engaged at for these sorts of market outcomes; that is simply not happening. We have not seen a federal minister go to the Middle East to ensure that the discussions at the government-to-government level are happening to give authority to the good work that people are trying to do at an industry-to-industry level. No learnings have been taken from the Indonesian example. We are now at the early stages of getting a level of supply chain assurance in a very, very different marketplace that requires a different level of approach. From reading the feedback from industry and from our own trade office in the Middle East, this is not happening at the level at which it should happen. I send a very strong signal to the federal government that it needs to engage at an appropriate level to ensure that we do not have a repeat of what happened in Indonesia. If not, it will deliver not only bad outcomes from an animal welfare perspective but also a significant impact on the very long business relationship in the live export trade we have had with the Middle East since the 1970s. The last thing we want now is a lack of support from the federal government. The federal government should become involved at a government-to-government level to ensure that we get good outcomes for animal welfare and good outcomes for the longevity of what is a strong market for our farmers in Western Australia.
Mr D.T. REDMAN : One thing that is really clear in these marketplaces is that we cannot take a one-size-fits-all approach. We cannot necessarily expect the learnings from the Indonesian market example to apply to the very diverse marketplaces in the Middle East. Some of the early recommendations of the federal government in response to the Farmer review have shown some of that diversity, and that is certainly very pleasing. The very early stages of negotiations with these markets are now taking place to determine the requirements of exporters from Western Australia to ensure supply chain compliance right the way through to the slaughtering process. Some huge challenges sit out there. It is important to acknowledge that it is not good enough to simply allow the industry-to-industry discussion to happen. It is really, really important that government engages at the highest level to ensure that a level of government authority sits above the business-to-business approach. It is important to ensure that those changes are put in place with a full understanding of what is trying to be achieved through a consultative process with those governments, rather than Australia once again putting a compliance rule on another country without fully engaging at the level of diplomacy that should be engaged at for these sorts of market outcomes; that is simply not happening. We have not seen a federal minister go to the Middle East to ensure that the discussions at the government-to-government level are happening to give authority to the good work that people are trying to do at an industry-to-industry level. No learnings have been taken from the Indonesian example. We are now at the early stages of getting a level of supply chain assurance in a very, very different marketplace that requires a different level of approach. From reading the feedback from industry and from our own trade office in the Middle East, this is not happening at the level at which it should happen. I send a very strong signal to the federal government that it needs to engage at an appropriate level to ensure that we do not have a repeat of what happened in Indonesia. If not, it will deliver not only bad outcomes from an animal welfare perspective but also a significant impact on the very long business relationship in the live export trade we have had with the Middle East since the 1970s. The last thing we want now is a lack of support from the federal government. The federal government should become involved at a government-to-government level to ensure that we get good outcomes for animal welfare and good outcomes for the longevity of what is a strong market for our farmers in Western Australia.
We have not seen a federal minister go to the Middle East to ensure that the discussions at the government-to-government level are happening to give authority to the good work that people are trying to do at an industry-to-industry level. No learnings have been taken from the Indonesian example. We are now at the early stages of getting a level of supply chain assurance in a very, very different marketplace that requires a different level of approach. From reading the feedback from industry and from our own trade office in the Middle East, this is not happening at the level at which it should happen. I send a very strong signal to the federal government that it needs to engage at an appropriate level to ensure that we do not have a repeat of what happened in Indonesia. If not, it will deliver not only bad outcomes from an animal welfare perspective but also a significant impact on the very long business relationship in the live export trade we have had with the Middle East since the 1970s. The last thing we want now is a lack of support from the federal government. The federal government should become involved at a government-to-government level to ensure that we get good outcomes for animal welfare and good outcomes for the longevity of what is a strong market for our farmers in Western Australia.
The last thing we want now is a lack of support from the federal government. The federal government should become involved at a government-to-government level to ensure that we get good outcomes for animal welfare and good outcomes for the longevity of what is a strong market for our farmers in Western Australia.
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