❓ Hon. Norman Moore asks about difficulties licensed premises face in engaging qualified staff to serve alcohol. Hon. Ravlich acknowledges the issue, particularly for clubs, and outlines government actions, including flexibility in training requirements and hardship applications, while also suggesting a possible link to clubs seeking pokies.
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LICENSED PREMISES - STAFF
Is it correct that many licensed premises are having difficulty with the requirement to engage suitably qualified staff to serve alcohol; and, if so, what action is the government taking to alleviate this problem? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH
Is it correct that many licensed premises are having difficulty with the requirement to engage suitably qualified staff to serve alcohol; and, if so, what action is the government taking to alleviate this problem? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH
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I thank the honourable member for the question. Generally, the hotel and hospitality industries are finding it difficult to attract staff. There is no doubt that the increased level of economic activity is also impacting on those two areas. What the government is specifically doing to - Hon Norman Moore : The question is related to the requirement for staff to have particular qualifications before they are entitled to serve alcohol. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Okay. This is an issue that has popped up and has been raised in the media from - Hon Norman Moore : Clubs. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : - Clubs WA, and Peter Seaman from Clubs WA specifically. Certainly, the focus of the new legislation was to ensure that we have responsible drinking and responsible serving of alcohol. It was very important that the legislation applied to all places that serve alcohol, so no exceptions were made. Having said that, the legislation specified that an approved manager needed to be on the site, irrespective of whether it is a hotel, nightclub, sporting club etc. There is no doubt that Clubs WA, as a representative of all clubs, whether they are sporting clubs or other sorts of clubs in the state, has indicated publicly that it has some pressure in that respect. One thing that is occurring is that people are being trained, but not all those people are retained by the industry; they can go off and seek other employment and there is some level of dissatisfaction with that situation. In some cases, clubs have paid to train someone but then that person does not stay with the club for an extended period. That issue certainly has been brought to our attention. In situations of extreme hardship, an application can be made to the Director of Liquor Licensing and that can be looked at. There is a legal requirement, however, as not everyone needs to have completed the more advanced course, and short courses can be done. We will work with the industry, as the Director of Liquor Licensing does, to ensure that there is not an extensive hardship on those clubs. One thing driving this matter is the view that because sporting clubs are under some financial pressure, they would like to have pokies to offset some of these costs. How much pressure is going on as a result of this legislative requirement or how much pressure there may well be because clubs want access to pokies, I do not know. However, I think somewhere there is probably a bit of - Hon Norman Moore : It’s a bit cynical, minister. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am trying not to be cynical, but, at the end of the day, it may well be just another argument about the hardship faced by clubs that may be used as a bit of a lever by clubs to try to get pokies. I have made the government’s position on that matter very, very clear and there will be no pokies.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: I thank the honourable member for the question. Generally, the hotel and hospitality industries are finding it difficult to attract staff. There is no doubt that the increased level of economic activity is also impacting on those two areas. What the government is specifically doing to - Hon Norman Moore : The question is related to the requirement for staff to have particular qualifications before they are entitled to serve alcohol. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Okay. This is an issue that has popped up and has been raised in the media from - Hon Norman Moore : Clubs. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : - Clubs WA, and Peter Seaman from Clubs WA specifically. Certainly, the focus of the new legislation was to ensure that we have responsible drinking and responsible serving of alcohol. It was very important that the legislation applied to all places that serve alcohol, so no exceptions were made. Having said that, the legislation specified that an approved manager needed to be on the site, irrespective of whether it is a hotel, nightclub, sporting club etc. There is no doubt that Clubs WA, as a representative of all clubs, whether they are sporting clubs or other sorts of clubs in the state, has indicated publicly that it has some pressure in that respect. One thing that is occurring is that people are being trained, but not all those people are retained by the industry; they can go off and seek other employment and there is some level of dissatisfaction with that situation. In some cases, clubs have paid to train someone but then that person does not stay with the club for an extended period. That issue certainly has been brought to our attention. In situations of extreme hardship, an application can be made to the Director of Liquor Licensing and that can be looked at. There is a legal requirement, however, as not everyone needs to have completed the more advanced course, and short courses can be done. We will work with the industry, as the Director of Liquor Licensing does, to ensure that there is not an extensive hardship on those clubs. One thing driving this matter is the view that because sporting clubs are under some financial pressure, they would like to have pokies to offset some of these costs. How much pressure is going on as a result of this legislative requirement or how much pressure there may well be because clubs want access to pokies, I do not know. However, I think somewhere there is probably a bit of - Hon Norman Moore : It’s a bit cynical, minister. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am trying not to be cynical, but, at the end of the day, it may well be just another argument about the hardship faced by clubs that may be used as a bit of a lever by clubs to try to get pokies. I have made the government’s position on that matter very, very clear and there will be no pokies.
I thank the honourable member for the question. Generally, the hotel and hospitality industries are finding it difficult to attract staff. There is no doubt that the increased level of economic activity is also impacting on those two areas. What the government is specifically doing to - Hon Norman Moore : The question is related to the requirement for staff to have particular qualifications before they are entitled to serve alcohol. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Okay. This is an issue that has popped up and has been raised in the media from - Hon Norman Moore : Clubs. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : - Clubs WA, and Peter Seaman from Clubs WA specifically. Certainly, the focus of the new legislation was to ensure that we have responsible drinking and responsible serving of alcohol. It was very important that the legislation applied to all places that serve alcohol, so no exceptions were made. Having said that, the legislation specified that an approved manager needed to be on the site, irrespective of whether it is a hotel, nightclub, sporting club etc. There is no doubt that Clubs WA, as a representative of all clubs, whether they are sporting clubs or other sorts of clubs in the state, has indicated publicly that it has some pressure in that respect. One thing that is occurring is that people are being trained, but not all those people are retained by the industry; they can go off and seek other employment and there is some level of dissatisfaction with that situation. In some cases, clubs have paid to train someone but then that person does not stay with the club for an extended period. That issue certainly has been brought to our attention. In situations of extreme hardship, an application can be made to the Director of Liquor Licensing and that can be looked at. There is a legal requirement, however, as not everyone needs to have completed the more advanced course, and short courses can be done. We will work with the industry, as the Director of Liquor Licensing does, to ensure that there is not an extensive hardship on those clubs. One thing driving this matter is the view that because sporting clubs are under some financial pressure, they would like to have pokies to offset some of these costs. How much pressure is going on as a result of this legislative requirement or how much pressure there may well be because clubs want access to pokies, I do not know. However, I think somewhere there is probably a bit of - Hon Norman Moore : It’s a bit cynical, minister. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am trying not to be cynical, but, at the end of the day, it may well be just another argument about the hardship faced by clubs that may be used as a bit of a lever by clubs to try to get pokies. I have made the government’s position on that matter very, very clear and there will be no pokies.
Generally, the hotel and hospitality industries are finding it difficult to attract staff. There is no doubt that the increased level of economic activity is also impacting on those two areas. What the government is specifically doing to - Hon Norman Moore : The question is related to the requirement for staff to have particular qualifications before they are entitled to serve alcohol. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Okay. This is an issue that has popped up and has been raised in the media from - Hon Norman Moore : Clubs. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : - Clubs WA, and Peter Seaman from Clubs WA specifically. Certainly, the focus of the new legislation was to ensure that we have responsible drinking and responsible serving of alcohol. It was very important that the legislation applied to all places that serve alcohol, so no exceptions were made. Having said that, the legislation specified that an approved manager needed to be on the site, irrespective of whether it is a hotel, nightclub, sporting club etc. There is no doubt that Clubs WA, as a representative of all clubs, whether they are sporting clubs or other sorts of clubs in the state, has indicated publicly that it has some pressure in that respect. One thing that is occurring is that people are being trained, but not all those people are retained by the industry; they can go off and seek other employment and there is some level of dissatisfaction with that situation. In some cases, clubs have paid to train someone but then that person does not stay with the club for an extended period. That issue certainly has been brought to our attention. In situations of extreme hardship, an application can be made to the Director of Liquor Licensing and that can be looked at. There is a legal requirement, however, as not everyone needs to have completed the more advanced course, and short courses can be done. We will work with the industry, as the Director of Liquor Licensing does, to ensure that there is not an extensive hardship on those clubs. One thing driving this matter is the view that because sporting clubs are under some financial pressure, they would like to have pokies to offset some of these costs. How much pressure is going on as a result of this legislative requirement or how much pressure there may well be because clubs want access to pokies, I do not know. However, I think somewhere there is probably a bit of - Hon Norman Moore : It’s a bit cynical, minister. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am trying not to be cynical, but, at the end of the day, it may well be just another argument about the hardship faced by clubs that may be used as a bit of a lever by clubs to try to get pokies. I have made the government’s position on that matter very, very clear and there will be no pokies.
Hon Norman Moore : The question is related to the requirement for staff to have particular qualifications before they are entitled to serve alcohol. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Okay. This is an issue that has popped up and has been raised in the media from - Hon Norman Moore : Clubs. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : - Clubs WA, and Peter Seaman from Clubs WA specifically. Certainly, the focus of the new legislation was to ensure that we have responsible drinking and responsible serving of alcohol. It was very important that the legislation applied to all places that serve alcohol, so no exceptions were made. Having said that, the legislation specified that an approved manager needed to be on the site, irrespective of whether it is a hotel, nightclub, sporting club etc. There is no doubt that Clubs WA, as a representative of all clubs, whether they are sporting clubs or other sorts of clubs in the state, has indicated publicly that it has some pressure in that respect. One thing that is occurring is that people are being trained, but not all those people are retained by the industry; they can go off and seek other employment and there is some level of dissatisfaction with that situation. In some cases, clubs have paid to train someone but then that person does not stay with the club for an extended period. That issue certainly has been brought to our attention. In situations of extreme hardship, an application can be made to the Director of Liquor Licensing and that can be looked at. There is a legal requirement, however, as not everyone needs to have completed the more advanced course, and short courses can be done. We will work with the industry, as the Director of Liquor Licensing does, to ensure that there is not an extensive hardship on those clubs. One thing driving this matter is the view that because sporting clubs are under some financial pressure, they would like to have pokies to offset some of these costs. How much pressure is going on as a result of this legislative requirement or how much pressure there may well be because clubs want access to pokies, I do not know. However, I think somewhere there is probably a bit of - Hon Norman Moore : It’s a bit cynical, minister. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am trying not to be cynical, but, at the end of the day, it may well be just another argument about the hardship faced by clubs that may be used as a bit of a lever by clubs to try to get pokies. I have made the government’s position on that matter very, very clear and there will be no pokies.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Okay. This is an issue that has popped up and has been raised in the media from - Hon Norman Moore : Clubs. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : - Clubs WA, and Peter Seaman from Clubs WA specifically. Certainly, the focus of the new legislation was to ensure that we have responsible drinking and responsible serving of alcohol. It was very important that the legislation applied to all places that serve alcohol, so no exceptions were made. Having said that, the legislation specified that an approved manager needed to be on the site, irrespective of whether it is a hotel, nightclub, sporting club etc. There is no doubt that Clubs WA, as a representative of all clubs, whether they are sporting clubs or other sorts of clubs in the state, has indicated publicly that it has some pressure in that respect. One thing that is occurring is that people are being trained, but not all those people are retained by the industry; they can go off and seek other employment and there is some level of dissatisfaction with that situation. In some cases, clubs have paid to train someone but then that person does not stay with the club for an extended period. That issue certainly has been brought to our attention. In situations of extreme hardship, an application can be made to the Director of Liquor Licensing and that can be looked at. There is a legal requirement, however, as not everyone needs to have completed the more advanced course, and short courses can be done. We will work with the industry, as the Director of Liquor Licensing does, to ensure that there is not an extensive hardship on those clubs. One thing driving this matter is the view that because sporting clubs are under some financial pressure, they would like to have pokies to offset some of these costs. How much pressure is going on as a result of this legislative requirement or how much pressure there may well be because clubs want access to pokies, I do not know. However, I think somewhere there is probably a bit of - Hon Norman Moore : It’s a bit cynical, minister. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am trying not to be cynical, but, at the end of the day, it may well be just another argument about the hardship faced by clubs that may be used as a bit of a lever by clubs to try to get pokies. I have made the government’s position on that matter very, very clear and there will be no pokies.
Hon Norman Moore : Clubs. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : - Clubs WA, and Peter Seaman from Clubs WA specifically. Certainly, the focus of the new legislation was to ensure that we have responsible drinking and responsible serving of alcohol. It was very important that the legislation applied to all places that serve alcohol, so no exceptions were made. Having said that, the legislation specified that an approved manager needed to be on the site, irrespective of whether it is a hotel, nightclub, sporting club etc. There is no doubt that Clubs WA, as a representative of all clubs, whether they are sporting clubs or other sorts of clubs in the state, has indicated publicly that it has some pressure in that respect. One thing that is occurring is that people are being trained, but not all those people are retained by the industry; they can go off and seek other employment and there is some level of dissatisfaction with that situation. In some cases, clubs have paid to train someone but then that person does not stay with the club for an extended period. That issue certainly has been brought to our attention. In situations of extreme hardship, an application can be made to the Director of Liquor Licensing and that can be looked at. There is a legal requirement, however, as not everyone needs to have completed the more advanced course, and short courses can be done. We will work with the industry, as the Director of Liquor Licensing does, to ensure that there is not an extensive hardship on those clubs. One thing driving this matter is the view that because sporting clubs are under some financial pressure, they would like to have pokies to offset some of these costs. How much pressure is going on as a result of this legislative requirement or how much pressure there may well be because clubs want access to pokies, I do not know. However, I think somewhere there is probably a bit of - Hon Norman Moore : It’s a bit cynical, minister. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am trying not to be cynical, but, at the end of the day, it may well be just another argument about the hardship faced by clubs that may be used as a bit of a lever by clubs to try to get pokies. I have made the government’s position on that matter very, very clear and there will be no pokies.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : - Clubs WA, and Peter Seaman from Clubs WA specifically. Certainly, the focus of the new legislation was to ensure that we have responsible drinking and responsible serving of alcohol. It was very important that the legislation applied to all places that serve alcohol, so no exceptions were made. Having said that, the legislation specified that an approved manager needed to be on the site, irrespective of whether it is a hotel, nightclub, sporting club etc. There is no doubt that Clubs WA, as a representative of all clubs, whether they are sporting clubs or other sorts of clubs in the state, has indicated publicly that it has some pressure in that respect. One thing that is occurring is that people are being trained, but not all those people are retained by the industry; they can go off and seek other employment and there is some level of dissatisfaction with that situation. In some cases, clubs have paid to train someone but then that person does not stay with the club for an extended period. That issue certainly has been brought to our attention. In situations of extreme hardship, an application can be made to the Director of Liquor Licensing and that can be looked at. There is a legal requirement, however, as not everyone needs to have completed the more advanced course, and short courses can be done. We will work with the industry, as the Director of Liquor Licensing does, to ensure that there is not an extensive hardship on those clubs. One thing driving this matter is the view that because sporting clubs are under some financial pressure, they would like to have pokies to offset some of these costs. How much pressure is going on as a result of this legislative requirement or how much pressure there may well be because clubs want access to pokies, I do not know. However, I think somewhere there is probably a bit of - Hon Norman Moore : It’s a bit cynical, minister. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am trying not to be cynical, but, at the end of the day, it may well be just another argument about the hardship faced by clubs that may be used as a bit of a lever by clubs to try to get pokies. I have made the government’s position on that matter very, very clear and there will be no pokies.
One thing driving this matter is the view that because sporting clubs are under some financial pressure, they would like to have pokies to offset some of these costs. How much pressure is going on as a result of this legislative requirement or how much pressure there may well be because clubs want access to pokies, I do not know. However, I think somewhere there is probably a bit of - Hon Norman Moore : It’s a bit cynical, minister. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am trying not to be cynical, but, at the end of the day, it may well be just another argument about the hardship faced by clubs that may be used as a bit of a lever by clubs to try to get pokies. I have made the government’s position on that matter very, very clear and there will be no pokies.
Hon Norman Moore : It’s a bit cynical, minister. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am trying not to be cynical, but, at the end of the day, it may well be just another argument about the hardship faced by clubs that may be used as a bit of a lever by clubs to try to get pokies. I have made the government’s position on that matter very, very clear and there will be no pokies.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am trying not to be cynical, but, at the end of the day, it may well be just another argument about the hardship faced by clubs that may be used as a bit of a lever by clubs to try to get pokies. I have made the government’s position on that matter very, very clear and there will be no pokies.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: I thank the honourable member for the question. Generally, the hotel and hospitality industries are finding it difficult to attract staff. There is no doubt that the increased level of economic activity is also impacting on those two areas. What the government is specifically doing to - Hon Norman Moore : The question is related to the requirement for staff to have particular qualifications before they are entitled to serve alcohol. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Okay. This is an issue that has popped up and has been raised in the media from - Hon Norman Moore : Clubs. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : - Clubs WA, and Peter Seaman from Clubs WA specifically. Certainly, the focus of the new legislation was to ensure that we have responsible drinking and responsible serving of alcohol. It was very important that the legislation applied to all places that serve alcohol, so no exceptions were made. Having said that, the legislation specified that an approved manager needed to be on the site, irrespective of whether it is a hotel, nightclub, sporting club etc. There is no doubt that Clubs WA, as a representative of all clubs, whether they are sporting clubs or other sorts of clubs in the state, has indicated publicly that it has some pressure in that respect. One thing that is occurring is that people are being trained, but not all those people are retained by the industry; they can go off and seek other employment and there is some level of dissatisfaction with that situation. In some cases, clubs have paid to train someone but then that person does not stay with the club for an extended period. That issue certainly has been brought to our attention. In situations of extreme hardship, an application can be made to the Director of Liquor Licensing and that can be looked at. There is a legal requirement, however, as not everyone needs to have completed the more advanced course, and short courses can be done. We will work with the industry, as the Director of Liquor Licensing does, to ensure that there is not an extensive hardship on those clubs. One thing driving this matter is the view that because sporting clubs are under some financial pressure, they would like to have pokies to offset some of these costs. How much pressure is going on as a result of this legislative requirement or how much pressure there may well be because clubs want access to pokies, I do not know. However, I think somewhere there is probably a bit of - Hon Norman Moore : It’s a bit cynical, minister. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am trying not to be cynical, but, at the end of the day, it may well be just another argument about the hardship faced by clubs that may be used as a bit of a lever by clubs to try to get pokies. I have made the government’s position on that matter very, very clear and there will be no pokies.
I thank the honourable member for the question. Generally, the hotel and hospitality industries are finding it difficult to attract staff. There is no doubt that the increased level of economic activity is also impacting on those two areas. What the government is specifically doing to - Hon Norman Moore : The question is related to the requirement for staff to have particular qualifications before they are entitled to serve alcohol. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Okay. This is an issue that has popped up and has been raised in the media from - Hon Norman Moore : Clubs. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : - Clubs WA, and Peter Seaman from Clubs WA specifically. Certainly, the focus of the new legislation was to ensure that we have responsible drinking and responsible serving of alcohol. It was very important that the legislation applied to all places that serve alcohol, so no exceptions were made. Having said that, the legislation specified that an approved manager needed to be on the site, irrespective of whether it is a hotel, nightclub, sporting club etc. There is no doubt that Clubs WA, as a representative of all clubs, whether they are sporting clubs or other sorts of clubs in the state, has indicated publicly that it has some pressure in that respect. One thing that is occurring is that people are being trained, but not all those people are retained by the industry; they can go off and seek other employment and there is some level of dissatisfaction with that situation. In some cases, clubs have paid to train someone but then that person does not stay with the club for an extended period. That issue certainly has been brought to our attention. In situations of extreme hardship, an application can be made to the Director of Liquor Licensing and that can be looked at. There is a legal requirement, however, as not everyone needs to have completed the more advanced course, and short courses can be done. We will work with the industry, as the Director of Liquor Licensing does, to ensure that there is not an extensive hardship on those clubs. One thing driving this matter is the view that because sporting clubs are under some financial pressure, they would like to have pokies to offset some of these costs. How much pressure is going on as a result of this legislative requirement or how much pressure there may well be because clubs want access to pokies, I do not know. However, I think somewhere there is probably a bit of - Hon Norman Moore : It’s a bit cynical, minister. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am trying not to be cynical, but, at the end of the day, it may well be just another argument about the hardship faced by clubs that may be used as a bit of a lever by clubs to try to get pokies. I have made the government’s position on that matter very, very clear and there will be no pokies.
Generally, the hotel and hospitality industries are finding it difficult to attract staff. There is no doubt that the increased level of economic activity is also impacting on those two areas. What the government is specifically doing to - Hon Norman Moore : The question is related to the requirement for staff to have particular qualifications before they are entitled to serve alcohol. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Okay. This is an issue that has popped up and has been raised in the media from - Hon Norman Moore : Clubs. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : - Clubs WA, and Peter Seaman from Clubs WA specifically. Certainly, the focus of the new legislation was to ensure that we have responsible drinking and responsible serving of alcohol. It was very important that the legislation applied to all places that serve alcohol, so no exceptions were made. Having said that, the legislation specified that an approved manager needed to be on the site, irrespective of whether it is a hotel, nightclub, sporting club etc. There is no doubt that Clubs WA, as a representative of all clubs, whether they are sporting clubs or other sorts of clubs in the state, has indicated publicly that it has some pressure in that respect. One thing that is occurring is that people are being trained, but not all those people are retained by the industry; they can go off and seek other employment and there is some level of dissatisfaction with that situation. In some cases, clubs have paid to train someone but then that person does not stay with the club for an extended period. That issue certainly has been brought to our attention. In situations of extreme hardship, an application can be made to the Director of Liquor Licensing and that can be looked at. There is a legal requirement, however, as not everyone needs to have completed the more advanced course, and short courses can be done. We will work with the industry, as the Director of Liquor Licensing does, to ensure that there is not an extensive hardship on those clubs. One thing driving this matter is the view that because sporting clubs are under some financial pressure, they would like to have pokies to offset some of these costs. How much pressure is going on as a result of this legislative requirement or how much pressure there may well be because clubs want access to pokies, I do not know. However, I think somewhere there is probably a bit of - Hon Norman Moore : It’s a bit cynical, minister. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am trying not to be cynical, but, at the end of the day, it may well be just another argument about the hardship faced by clubs that may be used as a bit of a lever by clubs to try to get pokies. I have made the government’s position on that matter very, very clear and there will be no pokies.
Hon Norman Moore : The question is related to the requirement for staff to have particular qualifications before they are entitled to serve alcohol. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Okay. This is an issue that has popped up and has been raised in the media from - Hon Norman Moore : Clubs. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : - Clubs WA, and Peter Seaman from Clubs WA specifically. Certainly, the focus of the new legislation was to ensure that we have responsible drinking and responsible serving of alcohol. It was very important that the legislation applied to all places that serve alcohol, so no exceptions were made. Having said that, the legislation specified that an approved manager needed to be on the site, irrespective of whether it is a hotel, nightclub, sporting club etc. There is no doubt that Clubs WA, as a representative of all clubs, whether they are sporting clubs or other sorts of clubs in the state, has indicated publicly that it has some pressure in that respect. One thing that is occurring is that people are being trained, but not all those people are retained by the industry; they can go off and seek other employment and there is some level of dissatisfaction with that situation. In some cases, clubs have paid to train someone but then that person does not stay with the club for an extended period. That issue certainly has been brought to our attention. In situations of extreme hardship, an application can be made to the Director of Liquor Licensing and that can be looked at. There is a legal requirement, however, as not everyone needs to have completed the more advanced course, and short courses can be done. We will work with the industry, as the Director of Liquor Licensing does, to ensure that there is not an extensive hardship on those clubs. One thing driving this matter is the view that because sporting clubs are under some financial pressure, they would like to have pokies to offset some of these costs. How much pressure is going on as a result of this legislative requirement or how much pressure there may well be because clubs want access to pokies, I do not know. However, I think somewhere there is probably a bit of - Hon Norman Moore : It’s a bit cynical, minister. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am trying not to be cynical, but, at the end of the day, it may well be just another argument about the hardship faced by clubs that may be used as a bit of a lever by clubs to try to get pokies. I have made the government’s position on that matter very, very clear and there will be no pokies.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Okay. This is an issue that has popped up and has been raised in the media from - Hon Norman Moore : Clubs. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : - Clubs WA, and Peter Seaman from Clubs WA specifically. Certainly, the focus of the new legislation was to ensure that we have responsible drinking and responsible serving of alcohol. It was very important that the legislation applied to all places that serve alcohol, so no exceptions were made. Having said that, the legislation specified that an approved manager needed to be on the site, irrespective of whether it is a hotel, nightclub, sporting club etc. There is no doubt that Clubs WA, as a representative of all clubs, whether they are sporting clubs or other sorts of clubs in the state, has indicated publicly that it has some pressure in that respect. One thing that is occurring is that people are being trained, but not all those people are retained by the industry; they can go off and seek other employment and there is some level of dissatisfaction with that situation. In some cases, clubs have paid to train someone but then that person does not stay with the club for an extended period. That issue certainly has been brought to our attention. In situations of extreme hardship, an application can be made to the Director of Liquor Licensing and that can be looked at. There is a legal requirement, however, as not everyone needs to have completed the more advanced course, and short courses can be done. We will work with the industry, as the Director of Liquor Licensing does, to ensure that there is not an extensive hardship on those clubs. One thing driving this matter is the view that because sporting clubs are under some financial pressure, they would like to have pokies to offset some of these costs. How much pressure is going on as a result of this legislative requirement or how much pressure there may well be because clubs want access to pokies, I do not know. However, I think somewhere there is probably a bit of - Hon Norman Moore : It’s a bit cynical, minister. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am trying not to be cynical, but, at the end of the day, it may well be just another argument about the hardship faced by clubs that may be used as a bit of a lever by clubs to try to get pokies. I have made the government’s position on that matter very, very clear and there will be no pokies.
Hon Norman Moore : Clubs. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : - Clubs WA, and Peter Seaman from Clubs WA specifically. Certainly, the focus of the new legislation was to ensure that we have responsible drinking and responsible serving of alcohol. It was very important that the legislation applied to all places that serve alcohol, so no exceptions were made. Having said that, the legislation specified that an approved manager needed to be on the site, irrespective of whether it is a hotel, nightclub, sporting club etc. There is no doubt that Clubs WA, as a representative of all clubs, whether they are sporting clubs or other sorts of clubs in the state, has indicated publicly that it has some pressure in that respect. One thing that is occurring is that people are being trained, but not all those people are retained by the industry; they can go off and seek other employment and there is some level of dissatisfaction with that situation. In some cases, clubs have paid to train someone but then that person does not stay with the club for an extended period. That issue certainly has been brought to our attention. In situations of extreme hardship, an application can be made to the Director of Liquor Licensing and that can be looked at. There is a legal requirement, however, as not everyone needs to have completed the more advanced course, and short courses can be done. We will work with the industry, as the Director of Liquor Licensing does, to ensure that there is not an extensive hardship on those clubs. One thing driving this matter is the view that because sporting clubs are under some financial pressure, they would like to have pokies to offset some of these costs. How much pressure is going on as a result of this legislative requirement or how much pressure there may well be because clubs want access to pokies, I do not know. However, I think somewhere there is probably a bit of - Hon Norman Moore : It’s a bit cynical, minister. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am trying not to be cynical, but, at the end of the day, it may well be just another argument about the hardship faced by clubs that may be used as a bit of a lever by clubs to try to get pokies. I have made the government’s position on that matter very, very clear and there will be no pokies.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : - Clubs WA, and Peter Seaman from Clubs WA specifically. Certainly, the focus of the new legislation was to ensure that we have responsible drinking and responsible serving of alcohol. It was very important that the legislation applied to all places that serve alcohol, so no exceptions were made. Having said that, the legislation specified that an approved manager needed to be on the site, irrespective of whether it is a hotel, nightclub, sporting club etc. There is no doubt that Clubs WA, as a representative of all clubs, whether they are sporting clubs or other sorts of clubs in the state, has indicated publicly that it has some pressure in that respect. One thing that is occurring is that people are being trained, but not all those people are retained by the industry; they can go off and seek other employment and there is some level of dissatisfaction with that situation. In some cases, clubs have paid to train someone but then that person does not stay with the club for an extended period. That issue certainly has been brought to our attention. In situations of extreme hardship, an application can be made to the Director of Liquor Licensing and that can be looked at. There is a legal requirement, however, as not everyone needs to have completed the more advanced course, and short courses can be done. We will work with the industry, as the Director of Liquor Licensing does, to ensure that there is not an extensive hardship on those clubs. One thing driving this matter is the view that because sporting clubs are under some financial pressure, they would like to have pokies to offset some of these costs. How much pressure is going on as a result of this legislative requirement or how much pressure there may well be because clubs want access to pokies, I do not know. However, I think somewhere there is probably a bit of - Hon Norman Moore : It’s a bit cynical, minister. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am trying not to be cynical, but, at the end of the day, it may well be just another argument about the hardship faced by clubs that may be used as a bit of a lever by clubs to try to get pokies. I have made the government’s position on that matter very, very clear and there will be no pokies.
One thing driving this matter is the view that because sporting clubs are under some financial pressure, they would like to have pokies to offset some of these costs. How much pressure is going on as a result of this legislative requirement or how much pressure there may well be because clubs want access to pokies, I do not know. However, I think somewhere there is probably a bit of - Hon Norman Moore : It’s a bit cynical, minister. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am trying not to be cynical, but, at the end of the day, it may well be just another argument about the hardship faced by clubs that may be used as a bit of a lever by clubs to try to get pokies. I have made the government’s position on that matter very, very clear and there will be no pokies.
Hon Norman Moore : It’s a bit cynical, minister. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am trying not to be cynical, but, at the end of the day, it may well be just another argument about the hardship faced by clubs that may be used as a bit of a lever by clubs to try to get pokies. I have made the government’s position on that matter very, very clear and there will be no pokies.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am trying not to be cynical, but, at the end of the day, it may well be just another argument about the hardship faced by clubs that may be used as a bit of a lever by clubs to try to get pokies. I have made the government’s position on that matter very, very clear and there will be no pokies.
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