❓ Question regarding cost blow-out and delays in the Perth to Mandurah rail project. The Minister's response deflects, focusing on travel time commitments and criticising the opposition's AvonLink project.
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I refer to the minister’s statement yesterday that the cost of the Perth to Mandurah rail project has blown out by a further $45 million and that it will not be completed until at least April 2007. (1) What is the breakdown of the additional costs that have blown out the budget by another $45 million? (2) How much of the additional four to five months delay and budget blow-out is due to industrial disputes? (3) Does the minister stand by her government’s commitment, given on 16 July 2001, that the travel time from Mandurah to Perth will be 48 minutes? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN
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(1)-(3) I thank the member for the question. I must say that the question on the journey taking 48 minutes is a very interesting one. Rumours have apparently been circulating among members of the Liberal Party that the rail journey will take longer than 48 minutes. As we have said in this place time and again, it is only the discredited Kenwick deviation that would have added unnecessary time for this travel. Our supplementary plan and all the information that we have put out cites the travel time from Mandurah to Perth as 48 minutes. We think that we can do better than that. In fact, we think that it might be able to be done in 45 minutes. However, being the very cautious individuals that we are, we have taken the more sensible and conservative approach of talking about 48 minutes. Members opposite may think that there is a problem in getting from Mandurah to Perth in 48 minutes. How long would it take someone if he had to go via the enormous Kenwick deviation? I am saying quite clearly to members opposite that we are absolutely committed to 48 minutes. There is nothing in this project - Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There he is at the back. He does not understand. I want to answer that interjection. When that man, the member for Avon, was a government member, he got the AvonLink established. How many people a day are there for the $30 million that was spent on the AvonLink ? Eleven people each day travel on the AvonLink , and that is okay. I will just tell the house something, because many members will be interested to know this. Do members know how much we are subsidising each of the member for Avon’s constituents who gets on the AvonLink ? Each year, for each of those constituents who travel on the AvonLink , we the taxpayers pay $50 000 a year. If ever there was a gravy train, it is the AvonLink. By contrast, the average subsidy on the Mandurah line will be in the order of $4 a day, and 28 000 people a day will travel on it. The travel time will be 48 minutes, but we may in fact be able to do better. I will deal with the $45 million increase for contingencies. As I explained to the member yesterday, this is a top-up of the contingency sum. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, Leader of the National Party and member for Carine! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We started with a contingency sum, which, as one would expect, winds back over the life of the project. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Leader of the National Party to order, reluctantly. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As we have seen with this project, the contingency sum has wound back faster than we would have liked. I am sorry, Mr Speaker, perhaps some of the members from the south west could help me. I thought psilocybin came from the south west, not from Avon. Clearly, the man has been consuming it over lunch. We have increased the contingency sum. We cannot say that the contingency sum is for this or that. It is a general contingency sum. However, I can say - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
(1) What is the breakdown of the additional costs that have blown out the budget by another $45 million? (2) How much of the additional four to five months delay and budget blow-out is due to industrial disputes? (3) Does the minister stand by her government’s commitment, given on 16 July 2001, that the travel time from Mandurah to Perth will be 48 minutes? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(3) I thank the member for the question. I must say that the question on the journey taking 48 minutes is a very interesting one. Rumours have apparently been circulating among members of the Liberal Party that the rail journey will take longer than 48 minutes. As we have said in this place time and again, it is only the discredited Kenwick deviation that would have added unnecessary time for this travel. Our supplementary plan and all the information that we have put out cites the travel time from Mandurah to Perth as 48 minutes. We think that we can do better than that. In fact, we think that it might be able to be done in 45 minutes. However, being the very cautious individuals that we are, we have taken the more sensible and conservative approach of talking about 48 minutes. Members opposite may think that there is a problem in getting from Mandurah to Perth in 48 minutes. How long would it take someone if he had to go via the enormous Kenwick deviation? I am saying quite clearly to members opposite that we are absolutely committed to 48 minutes. There is nothing in this project - Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There he is at the back. He does not understand. I want to answer that interjection. When that man, the member for Avon, was a government member, he got the AvonLink established. How many people a day are there for the $30 million that was spent on the AvonLink ? Eleven people each day travel on the AvonLink , and that is okay. I will just tell the house something, because many members will be interested to know this. Do members know how much we are subsidising each of the member for Avon’s constituents who gets on the AvonLink ? Each year, for each of those constituents who travel on the AvonLink , we the taxpayers pay $50 000 a year. If ever there was a gravy train, it is the AvonLink. By contrast, the average subsidy on the Mandurah line will be in the order of $4 a day, and 28 000 people a day will travel on it. The travel time will be 48 minutes, but we may in fact be able to do better. I will deal with the $45 million increase for contingencies. As I explained to the member yesterday, this is a top-up of the contingency sum. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, Leader of the National Party and member for Carine! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We started with a contingency sum, which, as one would expect, winds back over the life of the project. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Leader of the National Party to order, reluctantly. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As we have seen with this project, the contingency sum has wound back faster than we would have liked. I am sorry, Mr Speaker, perhaps some of the members from the south west could help me. I thought psilocybin came from the south west, not from Avon. Clearly, the man has been consuming it over lunch. We have increased the contingency sum. We cannot say that the contingency sum is for this or that. It is a general contingency sum. However, I can say - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
(2) How much of the additional four to five months delay and budget blow-out is due to industrial disputes? (3) Does the minister stand by her government’s commitment, given on 16 July 2001, that the travel time from Mandurah to Perth will be 48 minutes? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(3) I thank the member for the question. I must say that the question on the journey taking 48 minutes is a very interesting one. Rumours have apparently been circulating among members of the Liberal Party that the rail journey will take longer than 48 minutes. As we have said in this place time and again, it is only the discredited Kenwick deviation that would have added unnecessary time for this travel. Our supplementary plan and all the information that we have put out cites the travel time from Mandurah to Perth as 48 minutes. We think that we can do better than that. In fact, we think that it might be able to be done in 45 minutes. However, being the very cautious individuals that we are, we have taken the more sensible and conservative approach of talking about 48 minutes. Members opposite may think that there is a problem in getting from Mandurah to Perth in 48 minutes. How long would it take someone if he had to go via the enormous Kenwick deviation? I am saying quite clearly to members opposite that we are absolutely committed to 48 minutes. There is nothing in this project - Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There he is at the back. He does not understand. I want to answer that interjection. When that man, the member for Avon, was a government member, he got the AvonLink established. How many people a day are there for the $30 million that was spent on the AvonLink ? Eleven people each day travel on the AvonLink , and that is okay. I will just tell the house something, because many members will be interested to know this. Do members know how much we are subsidising each of the member for Avon’s constituents who gets on the AvonLink ? Each year, for each of those constituents who travel on the AvonLink , we the taxpayers pay $50 000 a year. If ever there was a gravy train, it is the AvonLink. By contrast, the average subsidy on the Mandurah line will be in the order of $4 a day, and 28 000 people a day will travel on it. The travel time will be 48 minutes, but we may in fact be able to do better. I will deal with the $45 million increase for contingencies. As I explained to the member yesterday, this is a top-up of the contingency sum. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, Leader of the National Party and member for Carine! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We started with a contingency sum, which, as one would expect, winds back over the life of the project. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Leader of the National Party to order, reluctantly. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As we have seen with this project, the contingency sum has wound back faster than we would have liked. I am sorry, Mr Speaker, perhaps some of the members from the south west could help me. I thought psilocybin came from the south west, not from Avon. Clearly, the man has been consuming it over lunch. We have increased the contingency sum. We cannot say that the contingency sum is for this or that. It is a general contingency sum. However, I can say - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
(3) Does the minister stand by her government’s commitment, given on 16 July 2001, that the travel time from Mandurah to Perth will be 48 minutes? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(3) I thank the member for the question. I must say that the question on the journey taking 48 minutes is a very interesting one. Rumours have apparently been circulating among members of the Liberal Party that the rail journey will take longer than 48 minutes. As we have said in this place time and again, it is only the discredited Kenwick deviation that would have added unnecessary time for this travel. Our supplementary plan and all the information that we have put out cites the travel time from Mandurah to Perth as 48 minutes. We think that we can do better than that. In fact, we think that it might be able to be done in 45 minutes. However, being the very cautious individuals that we are, we have taken the more sensible and conservative approach of talking about 48 minutes. Members opposite may think that there is a problem in getting from Mandurah to Perth in 48 minutes. How long would it take someone if he had to go via the enormous Kenwick deviation? I am saying quite clearly to members opposite that we are absolutely committed to 48 minutes. There is nothing in this project - Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There he is at the back. He does not understand. I want to answer that interjection. When that man, the member for Avon, was a government member, he got the AvonLink established. How many people a day are there for the $30 million that was spent on the AvonLink ? Eleven people each day travel on the AvonLink , and that is okay. I will just tell the house something, because many members will be interested to know this. Do members know how much we are subsidising each of the member for Avon’s constituents who gets on the AvonLink ? Each year, for each of those constituents who travel on the AvonLink , we the taxpayers pay $50 000 a year. If ever there was a gravy train, it is the AvonLink. By contrast, the average subsidy on the Mandurah line will be in the order of $4 a day, and 28 000 people a day will travel on it. The travel time will be 48 minutes, but we may in fact be able to do better. I will deal with the $45 million increase for contingencies. As I explained to the member yesterday, this is a top-up of the contingency sum. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, Leader of the National Party and member for Carine! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We started with a contingency sum, which, as one would expect, winds back over the life of the project. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Leader of the National Party to order, reluctantly. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As we have seen with this project, the contingency sum has wound back faster than we would have liked. I am sorry, Mr Speaker, perhaps some of the members from the south west could help me. I thought psilocybin came from the south west, not from Avon. Clearly, the man has been consuming it over lunch. We have increased the contingency sum. We cannot say that the contingency sum is for this or that. It is a general contingency sum. However, I can say - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(3) I thank the member for the question. I must say that the question on the journey taking 48 minutes is a very interesting one. Rumours have apparently been circulating among members of the Liberal Party that the rail journey will take longer than 48 minutes. As we have said in this place time and again, it is only the discredited Kenwick deviation that would have added unnecessary time for this travel. Our supplementary plan and all the information that we have put out cites the travel time from Mandurah to Perth as 48 minutes. We think that we can do better than that. In fact, we think that it might be able to be done in 45 minutes. However, being the very cautious individuals that we are, we have taken the more sensible and conservative approach of talking about 48 minutes. Members opposite may think that there is a problem in getting from Mandurah to Perth in 48 minutes. How long would it take someone if he had to go via the enormous Kenwick deviation? I am saying quite clearly to members opposite that we are absolutely committed to 48 minutes. There is nothing in this project - Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There he is at the back. He does not understand. I want to answer that interjection. When that man, the member for Avon, was a government member, he got the AvonLink established. How many people a day are there for the $30 million that was spent on the AvonLink ? Eleven people each day travel on the AvonLink , and that is okay. I will just tell the house something, because many members will be interested to know this. Do members know how much we are subsidising each of the member for Avon’s constituents who gets on the AvonLink ? Each year, for each of those constituents who travel on the AvonLink , we the taxpayers pay $50 000 a year. If ever there was a gravy train, it is the AvonLink. By contrast, the average subsidy on the Mandurah line will be in the order of $4 a day, and 28 000 people a day will travel on it. The travel time will be 48 minutes, but we may in fact be able to do better. I will deal with the $45 million increase for contingencies. As I explained to the member yesterday, this is a top-up of the contingency sum. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, Leader of the National Party and member for Carine! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We started with a contingency sum, which, as one would expect, winds back over the life of the project. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Leader of the National Party to order, reluctantly. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As we have seen with this project, the contingency sum has wound back faster than we would have liked. I am sorry, Mr Speaker, perhaps some of the members from the south west could help me. I thought psilocybin came from the south west, not from Avon. Clearly, the man has been consuming it over lunch. We have increased the contingency sum. We cannot say that the contingency sum is for this or that. It is a general contingency sum. However, I can say - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
(1)-(3) I thank the member for the question. I must say that the question on the journey taking 48 minutes is a very interesting one. Rumours have apparently been circulating among members of the Liberal Party that the rail journey will take longer than 48 minutes. As we have said in this place time and again, it is only the discredited Kenwick deviation that would have added unnecessary time for this travel. Our supplementary plan and all the information that we have put out cites the travel time from Mandurah to Perth as 48 minutes. We think that we can do better than that. In fact, we think that it might be able to be done in 45 minutes. However, being the very cautious individuals that we are, we have taken the more sensible and conservative approach of talking about 48 minutes. Members opposite may think that there is a problem in getting from Mandurah to Perth in 48 minutes. How long would it take someone if he had to go via the enormous Kenwick deviation? I am saying quite clearly to members opposite that we are absolutely committed to 48 minutes. There is nothing in this project - Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There he is at the back. He does not understand. I want to answer that interjection. When that man, the member for Avon, was a government member, he got the AvonLink established. How many people a day are there for the $30 million that was spent on the AvonLink ? Eleven people each day travel on the AvonLink , and that is okay. I will just tell the house something, because many members will be interested to know this. Do members know how much we are subsidising each of the member for Avon’s constituents who gets on the AvonLink ? Each year, for each of those constituents who travel on the AvonLink , we the taxpayers pay $50 000 a year. If ever there was a gravy train, it is the AvonLink. By contrast, the average subsidy on the Mandurah line will be in the order of $4 a day, and 28 000 people a day will travel on it. The travel time will be 48 minutes, but we may in fact be able to do better. I will deal with the $45 million increase for contingencies. As I explained to the member yesterday, this is a top-up of the contingency sum. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, Leader of the National Party and member for Carine! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We started with a contingency sum, which, as one would expect, winds back over the life of the project. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Leader of the National Party to order, reluctantly. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As we have seen with this project, the contingency sum has wound back faster than we would have liked. I am sorry, Mr Speaker, perhaps some of the members from the south west could help me. I thought psilocybin came from the south west, not from Avon. Clearly, the man has been consuming it over lunch. We have increased the contingency sum. We cannot say that the contingency sum is for this or that. It is a general contingency sum. However, I can say - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There he is at the back. He does not understand. I want to answer that interjection. When that man, the member for Avon, was a government member, he got the AvonLink established. How many people a day are there for the $30 million that was spent on the AvonLink ? Eleven people each day travel on the AvonLink , and that is okay. I will just tell the house something, because many members will be interested to know this. Do members know how much we are subsidising each of the member for Avon’s constituents who gets on the AvonLink ? Each year, for each of those constituents who travel on the AvonLink , we the taxpayers pay $50 000 a year. If ever there was a gravy train, it is the AvonLink. By contrast, the average subsidy on the Mandurah line will be in the order of $4 a day, and 28 000 people a day will travel on it. The travel time will be 48 minutes, but we may in fact be able to do better. I will deal with the $45 million increase for contingencies. As I explained to the member yesterday, this is a top-up of the contingency sum. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, Leader of the National Party and member for Carine! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We started with a contingency sum, which, as one would expect, winds back over the life of the project. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Leader of the National Party to order, reluctantly. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As we have seen with this project, the contingency sum has wound back faster than we would have liked. I am sorry, Mr Speaker, perhaps some of the members from the south west could help me. I thought psilocybin came from the south west, not from Avon. Clearly, the man has been consuming it over lunch. We have increased the contingency sum. We cannot say that the contingency sum is for this or that. It is a general contingency sum. However, I can say - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There he is at the back. He does not understand. I want to answer that interjection. When that man, the member for Avon, was a government member, he got the AvonLink established. How many people a day are there for the $30 million that was spent on the AvonLink ? Eleven people each day travel on the AvonLink , and that is okay. I will just tell the house something, because many members will be interested to know this. Do members know how much we are subsidising each of the member for Avon’s constituents who gets on the AvonLink ? Each year, for each of those constituents who travel on the AvonLink , we the taxpayers pay $50 000 a year. If ever there was a gravy train, it is the AvonLink. By contrast, the average subsidy on the Mandurah line will be in the order of $4 a day, and 28 000 people a day will travel on it. The travel time will be 48 minutes, but we may in fact be able to do better. I will deal with the $45 million increase for contingencies. As I explained to the member yesterday, this is a top-up of the contingency sum. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, Leader of the National Party and member for Carine! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We started with a contingency sum, which, as one would expect, winds back over the life of the project. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Leader of the National Party to order, reluctantly. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As we have seen with this project, the contingency sum has wound back faster than we would have liked. I am sorry, Mr Speaker, perhaps some of the members from the south west could help me. I thought psilocybin came from the south west, not from Avon. Clearly, the man has been consuming it over lunch. We have increased the contingency sum. We cannot say that the contingency sum is for this or that. It is a general contingency sum. However, I can say - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
I will deal with the $45 million increase for contingencies. As I explained to the member yesterday, this is a top-up of the contingency sum. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, Leader of the National Party and member for Carine! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We started with a contingency sum, which, as one would expect, winds back over the life of the project. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Leader of the National Party to order, reluctantly. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As we have seen with this project, the contingency sum has wound back faster than we would have liked. I am sorry, Mr Speaker, perhaps some of the members from the south west could help me. I thought psilocybin came from the south west, not from Avon. Clearly, the man has been consuming it over lunch. We have increased the contingency sum. We cannot say that the contingency sum is for this or that. It is a general contingency sum. However, I can say - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, Leader of the National Party and member for Carine! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We started with a contingency sum, which, as one would expect, winds back over the life of the project. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Leader of the National Party to order, reluctantly. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As we have seen with this project, the contingency sum has wound back faster than we would have liked. I am sorry, Mr Speaker, perhaps some of the members from the south west could help me. I thought psilocybin came from the south west, not from Avon. Clearly, the man has been consuming it over lunch. We have increased the contingency sum. We cannot say that the contingency sum is for this or that. It is a general contingency sum. However, I can say - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
The SPEAKER : Order, Leader of the National Party and member for Carine! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We started with a contingency sum, which, as one would expect, winds back over the life of the project. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Leader of the National Party to order, reluctantly. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As we have seen with this project, the contingency sum has wound back faster than we would have liked. I am sorry, Mr Speaker, perhaps some of the members from the south west could help me. I thought psilocybin came from the south west, not from Avon. Clearly, the man has been consuming it over lunch. We have increased the contingency sum. We cannot say that the contingency sum is for this or that. It is a general contingency sum. However, I can say - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We started with a contingency sum, which, as one would expect, winds back over the life of the project. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Leader of the National Party to order, reluctantly. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As we have seen with this project, the contingency sum has wound back faster than we would have liked. I am sorry, Mr Speaker, perhaps some of the members from the south west could help me. I thought psilocybin came from the south west, not from Avon. Clearly, the man has been consuming it over lunch. We have increased the contingency sum. We cannot say that the contingency sum is for this or that. It is a general contingency sum. However, I can say - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Leader of the National Party to order, reluctantly. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As we have seen with this project, the contingency sum has wound back faster than we would have liked. I am sorry, Mr Speaker, perhaps some of the members from the south west could help me. I thought psilocybin came from the south west, not from Avon. Clearly, the man has been consuming it over lunch. We have increased the contingency sum. We cannot say that the contingency sum is for this or that. It is a general contingency sum. However, I can say - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
The SPEAKER : I call the Leader of the National Party to order, reluctantly. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As we have seen with this project, the contingency sum has wound back faster than we would have liked. I am sorry, Mr Speaker, perhaps some of the members from the south west could help me. I thought psilocybin came from the south west, not from Avon. Clearly, the man has been consuming it over lunch. We have increased the contingency sum. We cannot say that the contingency sum is for this or that. It is a general contingency sum. However, I can say - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As we have seen with this project, the contingency sum has wound back faster than we would have liked. I am sorry, Mr Speaker, perhaps some of the members from the south west could help me. I thought psilocybin came from the south west, not from Avon. Clearly, the man has been consuming it over lunch. We have increased the contingency sum. We cannot say that the contingency sum is for this or that. It is a general contingency sum. However, I can say - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
I am sorry, Mr Speaker, perhaps some of the members from the south west could help me. I thought psilocybin came from the south west, not from Avon. Clearly, the man has been consuming it over lunch. We have increased the contingency sum. We cannot say that the contingency sum is for this or that. It is a general contingency sum. However, I can say - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
We have increased the contingency sum. We cannot say that the contingency sum is for this or that. It is a general contingency sum. However, I can say - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
(1) What is the breakdown of the additional costs that have blown out the budget by another $45 million? (2) How much of the additional four to five months delay and budget blow-out is due to industrial disputes? (3) Does the minister stand by her government’s commitment, given on 16 July 2001, that the travel time from Mandurah to Perth will be 48 minutes? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(3) I thank the member for the question. I must say that the question on the journey taking 48 minutes is a very interesting one. Rumours have apparently been circulating among members of the Liberal Party that the rail journey will take longer than 48 minutes. As we have said in this place time and again, it is only the discredited Kenwick deviation that would have added unnecessary time for this travel. Our supplementary plan and all the information that we have put out cites the travel time from Mandurah to Perth as 48 minutes. We think that we can do better than that. In fact, we think that it might be able to be done in 45 minutes. However, being the very cautious individuals that we are, we have taken the more sensible and conservative approach of talking about 48 minutes. Members opposite may think that there is a problem in getting from Mandurah to Perth in 48 minutes. How long would it take someone if he had to go via the enormous Kenwick deviation? I am saying quite clearly to members opposite that we are absolutely committed to 48 minutes. There is nothing in this project - Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There he is at the back. He does not understand. I want to answer that interjection. When that man, the member for Avon, was a government member, he got the AvonLink established. How many people a day are there for the $30 million that was spent on the AvonLink ? Eleven people each day travel on the AvonLink , and that is okay. I will just tell the house something, because many members will be interested to know this. Do members know how much we are subsidising each of the member for Avon’s constituents who gets on the AvonLink ? Each year, for each of those constituents who travel on the AvonLink , we the taxpayers pay $50 000 a year. If ever there was a gravy train, it is the AvonLink. By contrast, the average subsidy on the Mandurah line will be in the order of $4 a day, and 28 000 people a day will travel on it. The travel time will be 48 minutes, but we may in fact be able to do better. I will deal with the $45 million increase for contingencies. As I explained to the member yesterday, this is a top-up of the contingency sum. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, Leader of the National Party and member for Carine! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We started with a contingency sum, which, as one would expect, winds back over the life of the project. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Leader of the National Party to order, reluctantly. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As we have seen with this project, the contingency sum has wound back faster than we would have liked. I am sorry, Mr Speaker, perhaps some of the members from the south west could help me. I thought psilocybin came from the south west, not from Avon. Clearly, the man has been consuming it over lunch. We have increased the contingency sum. We cannot say that the contingency sum is for this or that. It is a general contingency sum. However, I can say - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
(2) How much of the additional four to five months delay and budget blow-out is due to industrial disputes? (3) Does the minister stand by her government’s commitment, given on 16 July 2001, that the travel time from Mandurah to Perth will be 48 minutes? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(3) I thank the member for the question. I must say that the question on the journey taking 48 minutes is a very interesting one. Rumours have apparently been circulating among members of the Liberal Party that the rail journey will take longer than 48 minutes. As we have said in this place time and again, it is only the discredited Kenwick deviation that would have added unnecessary time for this travel. Our supplementary plan and all the information that we have put out cites the travel time from Mandurah to Perth as 48 minutes. We think that we can do better than that. In fact, we think that it might be able to be done in 45 minutes. However, being the very cautious individuals that we are, we have taken the more sensible and conservative approach of talking about 48 minutes. Members opposite may think that there is a problem in getting from Mandurah to Perth in 48 minutes. How long would it take someone if he had to go via the enormous Kenwick deviation? I am saying quite clearly to members opposite that we are absolutely committed to 48 minutes. There is nothing in this project - Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There he is at the back. He does not understand. I want to answer that interjection. When that man, the member for Avon, was a government member, he got the AvonLink established. How many people a day are there for the $30 million that was spent on the AvonLink ? Eleven people each day travel on the AvonLink , and that is okay. I will just tell the house something, because many members will be interested to know this. Do members know how much we are subsidising each of the member for Avon’s constituents who gets on the AvonLink ? Each year, for each of those constituents who travel on the AvonLink , we the taxpayers pay $50 000 a year. If ever there was a gravy train, it is the AvonLink. By contrast, the average subsidy on the Mandurah line will be in the order of $4 a day, and 28 000 people a day will travel on it. The travel time will be 48 minutes, but we may in fact be able to do better. I will deal with the $45 million increase for contingencies. As I explained to the member yesterday, this is a top-up of the contingency sum. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, Leader of the National Party and member for Carine! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We started with a contingency sum, which, as one would expect, winds back over the life of the project. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Leader of the National Party to order, reluctantly. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As we have seen with this project, the contingency sum has wound back faster than we would have liked. I am sorry, Mr Speaker, perhaps some of the members from the south west could help me. I thought psilocybin came from the south west, not from Avon. Clearly, the man has been consuming it over lunch. We have increased the contingency sum. We cannot say that the contingency sum is for this or that. It is a general contingency sum. However, I can say - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
(3) Does the minister stand by her government’s commitment, given on 16 July 2001, that the travel time from Mandurah to Perth will be 48 minutes? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(3) I thank the member for the question. I must say that the question on the journey taking 48 minutes is a very interesting one. Rumours have apparently been circulating among members of the Liberal Party that the rail journey will take longer than 48 minutes. As we have said in this place time and again, it is only the discredited Kenwick deviation that would have added unnecessary time for this travel. Our supplementary plan and all the information that we have put out cites the travel time from Mandurah to Perth as 48 minutes. We think that we can do better than that. In fact, we think that it might be able to be done in 45 minutes. However, being the very cautious individuals that we are, we have taken the more sensible and conservative approach of talking about 48 minutes. Members opposite may think that there is a problem in getting from Mandurah to Perth in 48 minutes. How long would it take someone if he had to go via the enormous Kenwick deviation? I am saying quite clearly to members opposite that we are absolutely committed to 48 minutes. There is nothing in this project - Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There he is at the back. He does not understand. I want to answer that interjection. When that man, the member for Avon, was a government member, he got the AvonLink established. How many people a day are there for the $30 million that was spent on the AvonLink ? Eleven people each day travel on the AvonLink , and that is okay. I will just tell the house something, because many members will be interested to know this. Do members know how much we are subsidising each of the member for Avon’s constituents who gets on the AvonLink ? Each year, for each of those constituents who travel on the AvonLink , we the taxpayers pay $50 000 a year. If ever there was a gravy train, it is the AvonLink. By contrast, the average subsidy on the Mandurah line will be in the order of $4 a day, and 28 000 people a day will travel on it. The travel time will be 48 minutes, but we may in fact be able to do better. I will deal with the $45 million increase for contingencies. As I explained to the member yesterday, this is a top-up of the contingency sum. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, Leader of the National Party and member for Carine! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We started with a contingency sum, which, as one would expect, winds back over the life of the project. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Leader of the National Party to order, reluctantly. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As we have seen with this project, the contingency sum has wound back faster than we would have liked. I am sorry, Mr Speaker, perhaps some of the members from the south west could help me. I thought psilocybin came from the south west, not from Avon. Clearly, the man has been consuming it over lunch. We have increased the contingency sum. We cannot say that the contingency sum is for this or that. It is a general contingency sum. However, I can say - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(3) I thank the member for the question. I must say that the question on the journey taking 48 minutes is a very interesting one. Rumours have apparently been circulating among members of the Liberal Party that the rail journey will take longer than 48 minutes. As we have said in this place time and again, it is only the discredited Kenwick deviation that would have added unnecessary time for this travel. Our supplementary plan and all the information that we have put out cites the travel time from Mandurah to Perth as 48 minutes. We think that we can do better than that. In fact, we think that it might be able to be done in 45 minutes. However, being the very cautious individuals that we are, we have taken the more sensible and conservative approach of talking about 48 minutes. Members opposite may think that there is a problem in getting from Mandurah to Perth in 48 minutes. How long would it take someone if he had to go via the enormous Kenwick deviation? I am saying quite clearly to members opposite that we are absolutely committed to 48 minutes. There is nothing in this project - Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There he is at the back. He does not understand. I want to answer that interjection. When that man, the member for Avon, was a government member, he got the AvonLink established. How many people a day are there for the $30 million that was spent on the AvonLink ? Eleven people each day travel on the AvonLink , and that is okay. I will just tell the house something, because many members will be interested to know this. Do members know how much we are subsidising each of the member for Avon’s constituents who gets on the AvonLink ? Each year, for each of those constituents who travel on the AvonLink , we the taxpayers pay $50 000 a year. If ever there was a gravy train, it is the AvonLink. By contrast, the average subsidy on the Mandurah line will be in the order of $4 a day, and 28 000 people a day will travel on it. The travel time will be 48 minutes, but we may in fact be able to do better. I will deal with the $45 million increase for contingencies. As I explained to the member yesterday, this is a top-up of the contingency sum. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, Leader of the National Party and member for Carine! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We started with a contingency sum, which, as one would expect, winds back over the life of the project. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Leader of the National Party to order, reluctantly. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As we have seen with this project, the contingency sum has wound back faster than we would have liked. I am sorry, Mr Speaker, perhaps some of the members from the south west could help me. I thought psilocybin came from the south west, not from Avon. Clearly, the man has been consuming it over lunch. We have increased the contingency sum. We cannot say that the contingency sum is for this or that. It is a general contingency sum. However, I can say - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
(1)-(3) I thank the member for the question. I must say that the question on the journey taking 48 minutes is a very interesting one. Rumours have apparently been circulating among members of the Liberal Party that the rail journey will take longer than 48 minutes. As we have said in this place time and again, it is only the discredited Kenwick deviation that would have added unnecessary time for this travel. Our supplementary plan and all the information that we have put out cites the travel time from Mandurah to Perth as 48 minutes. We think that we can do better than that. In fact, we think that it might be able to be done in 45 minutes. However, being the very cautious individuals that we are, we have taken the more sensible and conservative approach of talking about 48 minutes. Members opposite may think that there is a problem in getting from Mandurah to Perth in 48 minutes. How long would it take someone if he had to go via the enormous Kenwick deviation? I am saying quite clearly to members opposite that we are absolutely committed to 48 minutes. There is nothing in this project - Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There he is at the back. He does not understand. I want to answer that interjection. When that man, the member for Avon, was a government member, he got the AvonLink established. How many people a day are there for the $30 million that was spent on the AvonLink ? Eleven people each day travel on the AvonLink , and that is okay. I will just tell the house something, because many members will be interested to know this. Do members know how much we are subsidising each of the member for Avon’s constituents who gets on the AvonLink ? Each year, for each of those constituents who travel on the AvonLink , we the taxpayers pay $50 000 a year. If ever there was a gravy train, it is the AvonLink. By contrast, the average subsidy on the Mandurah line will be in the order of $4 a day, and 28 000 people a day will travel on it. The travel time will be 48 minutes, but we may in fact be able to do better. I will deal with the $45 million increase for contingencies. As I explained to the member yesterday, this is a top-up of the contingency sum. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, Leader of the National Party and member for Carine! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We started with a contingency sum, which, as one would expect, winds back over the life of the project. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Leader of the National Party to order, reluctantly. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As we have seen with this project, the contingency sum has wound back faster than we would have liked. I am sorry, Mr Speaker, perhaps some of the members from the south west could help me. I thought psilocybin came from the south west, not from Avon. Clearly, the man has been consuming it over lunch. We have increased the contingency sum. We cannot say that the contingency sum is for this or that. It is a general contingency sum. However, I can say - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There he is at the back. He does not understand. I want to answer that interjection. When that man, the member for Avon, was a government member, he got the AvonLink established. How many people a day are there for the $30 million that was spent on the AvonLink ? Eleven people each day travel on the AvonLink , and that is okay. I will just tell the house something, because many members will be interested to know this. Do members know how much we are subsidising each of the member for Avon’s constituents who gets on the AvonLink ? Each year, for each of those constituents who travel on the AvonLink , we the taxpayers pay $50 000 a year. If ever there was a gravy train, it is the AvonLink. By contrast, the average subsidy on the Mandurah line will be in the order of $4 a day, and 28 000 people a day will travel on it. The travel time will be 48 minutes, but we may in fact be able to do better. I will deal with the $45 million increase for contingencies. As I explained to the member yesterday, this is a top-up of the contingency sum. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, Leader of the National Party and member for Carine! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We started with a contingency sum, which, as one would expect, winds back over the life of the project. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Leader of the National Party to order, reluctantly. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As we have seen with this project, the contingency sum has wound back faster than we would have liked. I am sorry, Mr Speaker, perhaps some of the members from the south west could help me. I thought psilocybin came from the south west, not from Avon. Clearly, the man has been consuming it over lunch. We have increased the contingency sum. We cannot say that the contingency sum is for this or that. It is a general contingency sum. However, I can say - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There he is at the back. He does not understand. I want to answer that interjection. When that man, the member for Avon, was a government member, he got the AvonLink established. How many people a day are there for the $30 million that was spent on the AvonLink ? Eleven people each day travel on the AvonLink , and that is okay. I will just tell the house something, because many members will be interested to know this. Do members know how much we are subsidising each of the member for Avon’s constituents who gets on the AvonLink ? Each year, for each of those constituents who travel on the AvonLink , we the taxpayers pay $50 000 a year. If ever there was a gravy train, it is the AvonLink. By contrast, the average subsidy on the Mandurah line will be in the order of $4 a day, and 28 000 people a day will travel on it. The travel time will be 48 minutes, but we may in fact be able to do better. I will deal with the $45 million increase for contingencies. As I explained to the member yesterday, this is a top-up of the contingency sum. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, Leader of the National Party and member for Carine! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We started with a contingency sum, which, as one would expect, winds back over the life of the project. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Leader of the National Party to order, reluctantly. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As we have seen with this project, the contingency sum has wound back faster than we would have liked. I am sorry, Mr Speaker, perhaps some of the members from the south west could help me. I thought psilocybin came from the south west, not from Avon. Clearly, the man has been consuming it over lunch. We have increased the contingency sum. We cannot say that the contingency sum is for this or that. It is a general contingency sum. However, I can say - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
I will deal with the $45 million increase for contingencies. As I explained to the member yesterday, this is a top-up of the contingency sum. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, Leader of the National Party and member for Carine! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We started with a contingency sum, which, as one would expect, winds back over the life of the project. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Leader of the National Party to order, reluctantly. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As we have seen with this project, the contingency sum has wound back faster than we would have liked. I am sorry, Mr Speaker, perhaps some of the members from the south west could help me. I thought psilocybin came from the south west, not from Avon. Clearly, the man has been consuming it over lunch. We have increased the contingency sum. We cannot say that the contingency sum is for this or that. It is a general contingency sum. However, I can say - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, Leader of the National Party and member for Carine! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We started with a contingency sum, which, as one would expect, winds back over the life of the project. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Leader of the National Party to order, reluctantly. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As we have seen with this project, the contingency sum has wound back faster than we would have liked. I am sorry, Mr Speaker, perhaps some of the members from the south west could help me. I thought psilocybin came from the south west, not from Avon. Clearly, the man has been consuming it over lunch. We have increased the contingency sum. We cannot say that the contingency sum is for this or that. It is a general contingency sum. However, I can say - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
The SPEAKER : Order, Leader of the National Party and member for Carine! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We started with a contingency sum, which, as one would expect, winds back over the life of the project. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Leader of the National Party to order, reluctantly. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As we have seen with this project, the contingency sum has wound back faster than we would have liked. I am sorry, Mr Speaker, perhaps some of the members from the south west could help me. I thought psilocybin came from the south west, not from Avon. Clearly, the man has been consuming it over lunch. We have increased the contingency sum. We cannot say that the contingency sum is for this or that. It is a general contingency sum. However, I can say - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We started with a contingency sum, which, as one would expect, winds back over the life of the project. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Leader of the National Party to order, reluctantly. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As we have seen with this project, the contingency sum has wound back faster than we would have liked. I am sorry, Mr Speaker, perhaps some of the members from the south west could help me. I thought psilocybin came from the south west, not from Avon. Clearly, the man has been consuming it over lunch. We have increased the contingency sum. We cannot say that the contingency sum is for this or that. It is a general contingency sum. However, I can say - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Leader of the National Party to order, reluctantly. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As we have seen with this project, the contingency sum has wound back faster than we would have liked. I am sorry, Mr Speaker, perhaps some of the members from the south west could help me. I thought psilocybin came from the south west, not from Avon. Clearly, the man has been consuming it over lunch. We have increased the contingency sum. We cannot say that the contingency sum is for this or that. It is a general contingency sum. However, I can say - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
The SPEAKER : I call the Leader of the National Party to order, reluctantly. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As we have seen with this project, the contingency sum has wound back faster than we would have liked. I am sorry, Mr Speaker, perhaps some of the members from the south west could help me. I thought psilocybin came from the south west, not from Avon. Clearly, the man has been consuming it over lunch. We have increased the contingency sum. We cannot say that the contingency sum is for this or that. It is a general contingency sum. However, I can say - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As we have seen with this project, the contingency sum has wound back faster than we would have liked. I am sorry, Mr Speaker, perhaps some of the members from the south west could help me. I thought psilocybin came from the south west, not from Avon. Clearly, the man has been consuming it over lunch. We have increased the contingency sum. We cannot say that the contingency sum is for this or that. It is a general contingency sum. However, I can say - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
I am sorry, Mr Speaker, perhaps some of the members from the south west could help me. I thought psilocybin came from the south west, not from Avon. Clearly, the man has been consuming it over lunch. We have increased the contingency sum. We cannot say that the contingency sum is for this or that. It is a general contingency sum. However, I can say - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
We have increased the contingency sum. We cannot say that the contingency sum is for this or that. It is a general contingency sum. However, I can say - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I can repeat what I said yesterday about the items of expenditure that have been greater than we predicted. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Ms K. Hodson-Thomas interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Certain parts of the budget have proved to be more expensive than we estimated. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Ms K. Hodson-Thomas : That’s called a cost blow-out. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member can call it a cost blow-out. I do not have a difficulty with that. As I have said, every civil construction project across the country has been enduring exactly the same problem. Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Mr J.H.D. Day : How is the $45 million made up? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The $45 million is not made up of particular components. I want to bring this answer to an end, but unless the Speaker can control the member for Avon, I will not be able to do it. The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
The SPEAKER : I know the member for Avon thinks it is very funny. However, he is on three warnings for his behaviour today. I do not want to throw the Leader of the National Party out, but he must allow the minister to finish her answer. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : As I set out yesterday, there have been a number of issues. The more recent station contracts have proved to be more expensive than we had budgeted. I believe that we acted on the best advice possible and made sound estimates. However, as has happened across the private and public sectors over the past year, there have been considerable escalations in the cost of contracts. The last two contracts are expected to come in at more than we had budgeted in 2003. Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Mr J.H.D. Day : Will you table a breakdown of the $45 million? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will table a breakdown of those areas of cost that have been greater than we had expected. Rise and fall is expected to increase beyond what we had originally estimated, again because of an unprecedented growth in the cost structures within the civil construction industry. The third element that has led to the contract being more expensive than we had originally estimated is the increased safety standards that are being set for the treatment of the electrical components of the system. They are the three elements that have led to our costs being greater than we had predicted, on the best possible advice, in December 2003.
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